It’s time, FEbros.
>>740593742So what's the big twist gonna be? 3H had the timeskip, what will they do this time?
>>740594189Sothis is le evil
>>740593742Sothis anal footjob
>>740593742I hope I can turn her back into a loli.
Could you imagine the shitstorm if there's no FW trailer?
>>740593742Dot Theory will be proven true.
>>740594305Hopes already made her a psychopath
Prepare for an avatar reveal.
Cai's gonna speak in ebonics won't he?
>>740594712I'm gonna piss myself if it's blyat again.
>>740594712I BELIEVE IN DOT>>740594783Flayn fucked him to death, owari da
>>740594712It's gonna be Cai
Marriage with Marianne!
>>740593742it's gonna sell less than Engage
>>740593742I have ZERO hope for this game.
>>740594712Looking at the horrendous "protags", I actually believe an Avatar ala Fates would save this.
>>740594189All faction heads will die, timeskip picks up from their kids, determined by whoever you chose for their S Rank, taking over. Baby realms may still be used as a means to explain how the old ass characters aren't geriatric and still war cappable for rest of the game.
>>740594712It’s Byleth
>>740593742Woke Emblem
>Fortunes weave in August or September It will happen for sure
>>740596553It'll probably sell more than Engage since the designs are a bit more palatable to your average joe but less than 3H for lacking the whole Harry Potter/Persona school appeal.
>>740596553I don't think the FE audience owns a switch 2 which is gonna sting.
>>740597759Don't own a switch 2 yet
>>740597759I don’t own one either. We must be better men and stop emulating.
>>740596553Yeah because Engage's sales were boosted from being the first followup to Three Houses, but Engage harmed the brand and less people will come back for Fortune's Weave, also if it lacks a monastery/school system that will also make it less appealing to most people.
>Fates - kids are back, three stooges twist>Three Houses - timeskip punished Dimitri twist>Engage - fucking hub is back and cringier than ever>FW - ???What will we learn tomorrow that will make us hate/love the game?
>>740598289Alear is going to show up to talk to her fellow dragon.
>>740598263So Engage's sales were bad because 3H harmed the series' reputation? I see.
>>740598408Engages sales were bad because it was shadow dropped and was a bad game
>>740598476But 3H was a bad game and that didn't matter
>>740597646>since the designs are a bit more palatable(lolthe designs are ugly as fuck
>kalergi plan posters when they see poop: that’s me!
>>740598289just hope we can put any sequel/prequel debate behind us
>>740598520But it was hyped
I can’t watch the direct because I have a job
calling it now they are not going to include cai in the trailer
>>740599665I'll watch it at work
>>740594189reverse timeskipyou go back in time
They need something big like eyepatch Dimitri.
>>740593742sex with leda
>>740599689Cai is in the game. Just because faggots on 4chan have been shitting their pants over it for almost a year doesn't mean anything has changed in the real world.
I don't have a Switch 2 and I don't ever intend on buying one.
>>740600000
Prequel set in Dagda with young Shamir
>>740598408Yeah. There was a fucking HUGE drop in FE interest in the years following its release (literally below pre-Awakening levels). Edeltard discourse scared everyone off from the community.
>>740600115 Toothpaste and bad designs scared the community
I think shadows brought enough good will back to the franchise and the switch 2 catalog is pretty barren right now so when they announce the free switch 2 port of shadows to bring back interest in the series, it will generate enough interest to make fortunes weave outperform engage
>>740598476>it was shadow droppedWhat do you hope to gain by making up obvious bullshit like this?
>>740598695>the designs are ugly as fuckThe only people I've seen shitting on the designs shown so far is anons on /v/ that hate the characters because they're brown, not for any actual design reason (other than Cai's hair).
>>740600301rip FEthey threw their last good artistic project on the mobile app store as an unfinished amongus clone. Now it will only be 3HRT.
>>740600610have you seen the character portraits?
>>740600610I mean Leda is hot as fuck. One of the sexiest FE girls ever, possibly. Dietrich is fine, a copypasta of Alucard in Xander's armor. I don't actually mind Cai and only Theodora looks kinda dumb. It's too early to say with the supporting the characters.
>>740593742I'm not excited in the slightest for this game, I can't even imagine it being anything but slop if it plays anything like TH.
>>740600610Browns are ugly, hope this helps
>>740600861yup, another decade of fates being the only good fire emblem game since 2016
>>740601051sad trook
>>740601051Grass is greenWater is wetFatesfag hates every FE that isnt conquest
The royal fiery seethe when this game sells better than Engage is going to be a decadent as cake.
>>740601286Seethe from what? All of Engage's 3 fans?
>>740601286>the game is better because sales!!
>>740601362It isn't. But you've been saying it will flop for 9 months now out your own delusions. I'm so ready to see your ass gaped and eviscerated.
>>740601051>fates>goodPair up shit is garbage.
>>740601429Ironically the ones anticipating a flop the most are 3H fags >>740598263
>>740593742She's gonna get mutt'ed unironically.
>>740600756They look fine?
>>740601051*another 20 years of Radiant Dawn being the only good fire emblem game since 2007
>>740601779>has a chokergod what a fag
>>740600610Xro brown characters are never going to be as well received as light skinned characters and you know it. And having them forced down your throat in every new game only exasperates the issue.
>>740601263>>740601485>>740602113Fates won. There is no Fire Emblem game that will ever beat Fates Conquest because of how carefully crafted the maps and gameplay were around it. There is no other FE game with this much care and thought put into it that isn't a broken mess (Thracia) and there probably will never be since they introduced the turnwheel. You can cope, you can hide, but you can't run from the truth.
>>740593742Save us, Sothis-sama
AELFRIC LOVE
>>740594189The game takes place in a massive time loop. Making it to FE what Majora's Mask is to Zelda.
>>740602684There's nothing broken about Thracia shut up
>>740602684>carefully crafted the mapsConquest maps have got to be the most overrated shit of all time. There isn't even anything interesting going on in them. There are absolutely zero interesting and compelling side objectives. There isn't even fucking fog of war, a series staple. All you get is lame gimmick shit that you clap like a retarded seal for.
>>740603005>There isn't even anything interesting going on in them>Btw I arbitrarily declare anything more complex than seize with stationary enemies it to be gimmick shit
>>740597759I bought one for fe and Pokemon. I don't believe that an emulator will release for switch 2 because of multiple reasons.
>>740602964He probably thinks movement stars are broken because he's too retarded to plan for someone moving twice in one turn.
>>740597759I don't. No reason to buy it for a single game, especially after the price increase.
>>740602684also the girls and the music and the art and the
>>740603184You should only be hedging if you think that the switch 2 will be hacked and an emulator will release. If not the hardware price might increase again.
>>740602964You can literally get soft locked in some stages. It happened on /v/s playthrough of it.>>740603005Fog of war is dogshit don't kid yourself.>>740603212That too, but most importantly gameplay
>>740603424That might be more to do with the romhack than the game
>Fog of war is dogshitThis nigga is too retarded to use torches.
>>740603424You don't know what soft locked means. I'll give you a hint: it doesn't mean "I'm refusing to reset the game in my self-imposed challenge run and replay the chapter, so the game must be poorly designed."Even after DOOR STUCK there were debates as to whether we should just veto the bothced attempt, because we did have the keys, we just didn't bring them out of the convoy.
>gameplay is the only thing that matters except when a black person appears
>>740593742I'm gonna laugh if the gameplay is dogshit again. Engage made gameplay so good, devs aren't stupid enough to regress progress, right?
>>740603575>Hurr it's easy to solve that makes it not dogshitThe most retarded nigger of the thread, it's not an engaging map hazard. That's why you don't see it as often anymore.>B-but Engage had I-That was one of the most dogshit maps of Engage too.>>740603629>Get softlocked>Durr it's not a softlock we had the keys in the convoy we just had to restart the game because we couldn't access the convoySo, a softlock.
if the only fe game you like is conquest you are not a fire emblem fan
>>740598476>and was a bad gameHow so when the gameplay was an improvement over Three Houses?
IDK what the stupid conquestthracia faggot is droning on about again, but Engage’s maps have the exact same amount of thought put into them with less gimmicks.
>>740600610cai cenatalucard's armor made of plasticblack edelgard's dumb hatisekai girl that doesnt belong herenun with a stungunniggu with aggressively cyan hairthis shit is a circus, and that's on top of tree house localizers turned consultants forcing half the cast to be brown
>>740593742wasn't nintendo dropping 3H trailers since half a year to release? they aren't showing us SHIT about FW makes me think they know it's bad like engayge. they're only using the 3H branding to get the goyim to buy in
>everyone wants someone else to get owned by FW but they don't even know who they want to get owned by itGamewars fags have lost the plot.
>>740603920Not really. Engage's mechanics allow you to treat every map the exact same way, anyways.
>>740603808Engage fog maps were PEAK. Engage is also a much fucking better game than Conquest with better gameplay and way better maps.
>>740603808>[Other game] player: whoops, forgot an important item for this level, I'll just reload the chapter>Fire Emblem player: DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK DOES NOT COMPUTE SCORCH THE FUCKING EARTH THIS THING IS SO OVERAgain, "soft lock" has a specific meaning. You can't just change it to your own retardation and expect any sympathy or understanding from more sane people.
>>740604002Same as CQ and Thracia doesn’t even have mechanics outside of the series fundamentals
>>740603769yeah thats basically correct
>>740603935Gameplay good + Aryan girl = I will play
>>740603920>less gimmicksThat's not exactly Engaging
>>740604079>Thracia doesn’t even have mechanics outside of the series fundamentalsThank you for letting us know you've never played it.
>>740593742For me it’s The Fire Emblem
>>740603947>actually engagefags want FW to flop because it's more 3H>actually 3Hfags want FW to flop because there are brown people in it>actually it's-Faggots like this who turn literally every topic into teamsports should be tossed into the sun.
>Engage's mechanics allow you to treat every map the exact same way
>>740604079There's no bonded shield equivalent in either of those games.
>>740604126I have played it and it sucks
>>740604020>perpetually stuck on the map>"I-Its not a softlock!! I can totally progress without resetting the game!"Actual retardation. If you can't progress and have to reset the game to fix your issue, it is a softlock.
>only in the office one afternoon this week and it's the Direct day and this is at 3pm my time
>>740604161>I beat 5 enemies and almost diedokay?
>>740604136dangerously based!!!
>>740604161NOOOOO DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW /V/ TOLD ME MY PRECIOUS CONQUEST DOESNT HAVE JUGGERNAUTING
Why didn't you guys tell me the music in Engage was this goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlnOvWkEPoc
cai's hair looks disgustinghttps://x.com/arr4m/status/2062369258609189109
>>740604253That literally how you solve every CQ map. Pair up and press end turn.
>>740604250Sucks to hear anon. I have a meeting 10 minutes after the Direct ends, just barely made it. Will miss the Treehouse Live though.
>>740604231Nobody defines it that way, you fucking dunce. Otherwise every other imminent game over would count as a "soft lock." You would be "soft locked" in any Fire Emblem game if you threw away all your items and weapons on the map. If you can reload to a save at the beginning of the level, the game is still playable and you are NOT soft locked.
>>740604361>>740604384Not Conquest, don't care
>>740604361bro.... i have been telling fags about since release
why would I play this when they ruined Sothis?
>>740604361Engage is just too good, easily top 3 FE everBut 3HRTfags did their best to gaslight everyone into thinking the opposite
>>740604401Not really. That guy still has 90% of the map left, and it's like you're upset that he strategized to take on one enemy group with a good matchup.
>>740604446What you just posted was exactly what happened to our playthrough you fucking retard. How stupid can you be?
I'm playing Path of Radiance and it's cool but why did they make Titania like that.
>>740604306Juggernuggering is actually /v/'s preferred way to play the game
>>740604468>>740604495>>740604505>>740604542Stop posting shit FE games and post Conquest
>>740604468I haven't been checking the FE threads sorry. Byleth's is also real damn goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28ZyPFFCvo
>>740604495As a huge lolifag, I would certainly have loved more loli Sothis, but also as a Sothis fan I'm just glad to see her again.
>>740604593bigtensia
>>740604361They fucked up every radiant dawn theme with their rock remix somehow
>>740604524Further progress was not "impossible." The run was still functional and intact. We literally just had a retard that didn't bring any keys and got rid of the one key on the map.If we define a softlock as you do, then every Fire Emblem game is softlockable. You can always just not bring necessary items and be """soft locked."""
>>740593742>Grown Ara Ara Sothis
>>740604523Every 3 months a different person posts themselves soloing the game with a different class and character including the furfag who lives with his parents
Why didn't they just remake Conquest instead of releasing more slop again?
>>740604651>Further progress was not "impossible.">Whole map was cleared off of enemies with no way of opening the door to escape>This according to anon isn't a softlock>If we define a softlock as you do, then every Fire Emblem game is softlockable. You can always just not bring necessary items and be """soft locked."""Name 2 instances where this can happen and you don't have access to the convoy in some way within said map.
>>740604361>>740604596Leif's is my favorite out of the remixes. They didn't have to go this hard on a Thracia song but they did.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bgQRbXjiIQ
>>740604719>Soloing the game is when you have an OP build you worked on the entire game with 4 chapters left
for me, its rise from a thousand years ago and falling petals
>>740604161Pair-Up was a mistake.
>>740604756Easy. I throw away all my weapons in Fates and/or don't deploy anyone strong enough to beat the enemies in Conquest 25 and I have a Corrin who can't beat Ryoma. I now can't beat Chapter 25 no matter what, unless I reset and change some things.This is just as dumb as not bringing keys to Thracia 11x, and killing the keys that exist on-map.
What is a good amount of chapters, with the possibility of multiple routes. Preferably not copy-pasted like 3h.
>>740604719Even putting soloing aside, Excel exposed the game HARD with his 0 STR/MAG run. If you aren't abusing broken-ass guard gauge to enemy phase your way to victory, you can just as brainlessly abuse savage blow + poison strike on player phase.
>>74060518425
Here is me dropping Roy on an island and then killing all my fliers. I am now "softlocked". This means FE6 is a bad game now.
>>740593742Everytime I remember this exists I also remember that it switch 2 exclusive for some reason and there is no emulator. So I will likely just not play it for years.
>>740605164>Easy. I throw away all my weapons in FatesIt doesn't let you throw Way the Yato, try again.>or don't deploy anyone strong enough to beat the enemies in Conquest 25 and I have a Corrin who can't beat RyomaVirtually impossible and you still can cheese it so no matter how I look at it you can't get softlocked.
>>740605184Modern FEs tend to have 50-60 maps
>>740605184>>>>multiple routes with multiple terrible storyno
>>740605184If it's split perspectives then I'm hoping at least 10-13 per lord.
>>740605239You're not softlocked because a ballista is in range to kill you to force a game over so you can go back to the main menu to play it again. Fucking retard.FE6 is still a bad game though.
>>740604756>put the lightsphere in a character's inventory>bench that character and start chapter 20>can't kill hardinfucking softlock>play any chapter>waste all my gold and discard all my weapons>can't kill the enemies requires to clear the chapter>softlockedbad game design, they should make the game beat itself no matter what I do
>>740602730"Sorry, I'm going to be relegated to mostly being in the background again so the teenagers can have their predictable angsty arcs."
>>740605314Just reclass Corrin to a class that can't use the yato
I see "softlocks" are today's random topic we picked out of the hat to argue about.
>>740605314I already said Corrin was too weak to beat Ryoma. This isn't even hypothetical, this is COMMON. We failed to beat him with a busted Corrin with cracked-out skills in the relay.So now you've got this shitty Corrin who can't beat the lobster, you can't access the convoy. What if you find that you forgot an important item in the convoy or equipped the wrong skill on a key unit, and all your units are too weak and shitty to beat the map?Again, this isn't even hypothetical. I knew a guy who went into Lunatic blind on a JP copy of the game before it hit the Western world, and got filtered so hard by Chapter 25, he had to reset the entire game.THAT is an actual soft-lock. And you're complaining about lockpicks in a midgame Thracia gaiden.
>>740605531I always go lancer because lances are cool. I also like giving lancefaire to my spouse
>>740605558A guy seems to think that having to reset the game means you are softlocked, when the actual definition is not being able to continue unless you restart the game from the very beginning.
People here are so fucking retarded. A soft lock is when you can play the game (as in control your character), but you can’t progress to the next area/quest, even AFTER loading the save (not the case in the Thracia example, but would be the case if the game had an autosave every move ironman). A “hard lock” is when you can’t control your character at all aka the game freezes or glitches in an extreme manner.
>>740605408What if the ballista is out of ammo?
>>740605668The problem is, people here think their schizophrenic playstyle is real when it's actually fake. Ironman does not exist at the mechanical level.
>>740605464>>740605531>Purposely softlocking yourself is the same as the game softlocking you due to bad game designRetardation and bad faith argument.>>740605597Corrin has access to the Convoy at all times.Again, purposely softlocking yourself isn't the same as the game softlocking you on a map without giving you any other option. You are being purposely obtuse for the sake of an argument you have no foothold on.
just restart the game lmao.also not enough engage girls
Softlocks are a skill issue
>>740605916But restarting the game means I don't get to win my dishonest internet semantics argument
>>740605916She's got pretty huge tits for a ?? year old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQD11drYtpE
>>740606169Can't bring myself to harm Sakura
>>740605210>dude just reset every chapter 30 times
>>740606283And save state
>>740606251"Why are you doing this to me brother! I only wanted to love you."
>Engage finally gave us a big boobed mesugaki >there never was a parade on the streets, or even at comiket man, this is how you know the FE fanbase is gay as fuck. If she was a Blue Archive character she'd be swimming in doujins
>>740606382I can think of 2 giant purple reasons
>>740605464Its a strategy game. If your strategy is shit you should have to start over at least the mission and that includes bad resource management
>>740606432>this is how you know the FE fanbase is gay as fuckIt's why they started doing same sex marriages since Fates
>>7406061321X
>>740593742Im playing 14 and just thinking how much id rather be playing this. I reall thought a June release Im so blue balled bros, even if its DEI dlop.
>>740606432Her or Yunaka would have been my choice, but Anna exists.
>>740606169Not even the best fates track
>>740605890If Corrin is too weak to be at Ryoma, it DOES NOT MATTER that he can access the convoy - it will be to no effect. And since he's trapped in a cage fight with the electric man, nobody else can access the convoy either. So we've created not an unlikely scenario here, but a plausible and common one. Way more likely to occur than having zero keys or lockpicks in Thracia 11x.You just have a double standard for games you like. You're a filthy Conquest-only.
>fortunes weave waiting room>enter thread>nothing but fatesgage
>>740606870You can technically still beat Ryoma if you run towards the door since your other units can attack him over it.
>>740606892Not really absurd that if we're waiting for a trailer and info on the new game we've had like one trailer for so far, we'd talk about the most recent game.
>>740596553>it's gonna sell less than EngageThe dialogue in the trailer has me concerned they dont know why Engage disappointed. Be hilarios if they combine Engage dialogue and plot with 3 Houses Gameplay, repetitiveness and sexo.
>>740606892it's almost like we don't know anything about Fortune's Weave yet so we're just hornyposting in the meantime.
>>740606964It's almost impossible to kill him that way. He has the advantage of the cheat tiles and you don't. So in some ways it's worse than soloing with Corrin.
>MUH 1-2 RANGE PERCIVALFE6 is quite possibly the least juggernaut-friendly FE game there is. Capped STR and 23 SPD, meaningless because of shit like this.
>>740607067It's not hard at all. A normal-ass Kaze can double him, poison strike, have all sorts of rallies and auras, be danced, etc.
I love my wife, Annette.
>>740600690>Furry>Says 3hrtGrim
>>740607202>my optimized Kaze with 3 class trees and 5 meta skills can gradually chip Ryoma down and pray he doesn't get blown the fuck out with an Astra/Rend Heaven crit with his shit luckYes, but try it on a blind run like the idiot who left our keys on the kitchen table
what feels bad is that I bet I won't like this game but I'll still get it anyways.
>>740607386No just a normal Kaze promoted to master ninja will be enough to handle him in 2-3 combats. As you said, his main concern is being crit and skill procs, but assuming this isn't an ironman I'd say he's normally more likely to win than not, especially since Ryoma will attack Corrin on player phase if they can't retaliate.
>>740606992lets discuss about routeswill FW have 4 routes or will it be like Radiant Dawn? what does /v/ expect?
>>740607563>on player phase*on enemy phase
>>740607563If we're assuming this isn't an ironman, then DOOR STUCK is not a problem either. The point of this whole thought experiment is to generate plausible """soft locks""" that are not actually soft locks if you just reset like an intelligent person would.
>>740606870>If Corrin is too weak to be at Ryoma, it DOES NOT MATTER that he can access the convoy - it will be to no effect.Hey so if you can still trigger a game over in the game, thats not a softlock since you dont require a soft reset to go back to the menu. Hope this helps.
>>740607682I'm not the softlock guy, I just think you're overstating how hard it is to kill Ryoma with units other than Corrin over the door. It's quite easy and we probably would have won that ironman if anon thought to try it when the duel started looking bad.
>>740607597I hope it's like Radiant Dawn.Multiple routes just invite inconsistent writing and tribalism.
>>740606992That's seethyfaggot ignore him
>>740606432Gross, Im afraid her tits might get in my mouth.
>>740607816It's easy in hindsight. If you're a blind player, it's not even guaranteed you will have Kaze trained, and Kaze is not exactly a Ryoma godslayer, he's just a fast ninja with bad stats. I've actually never used the guy, I think he's overrated. What if you only have Xander trained for physical 1-2 range? A lot of newbies lean heavily on him and he's pretty bad against Ryoma without specific interventions and reclass paths.
>>740607901Was that image really necessary?
>>740607901Stop. Radiant Dawn is a putrid, dogshit game. I understand the love for Path of Radiance, but there is no reasonable argument to advocate for another Radiant Dawn type of game.
>>740607597I would prefer routes but only if there isn't such a massive overlap of maps like 3H. Also don't put the route split right at the start, it was such a drag playing through White Clouds every time with barely any changes.
>>740607901Neurons activated
>I've never used him>I think he's overrated
>>740608149He's literally the worst ninja in every route lol
>>740608023I'd say most players are likely to have a ninja of some sort. I just named Kaze since he's a pretty standard one. Xander can do it too if you reclassed him to hero and gave him a speedwing. That should be enough to double Ryoma with a tonic, dance, and speed rally. I think he'd be just shy if you left him in paladin though, on average.
>>740593742such a downgrade from the original
Will FW be Ninacore or will the men mostly be too ugly for her?
The best characters in Engage are the mothers.There, I've said it.
>>740608506Fujos like twinks not big burly brown men.
>>740594189Cai is nemesis and starts the lizard hunt
>>740608547Gross, puffy vagina.
>>740594712its Cai or the girl with the glasses
>>740594189Family trusts are a staple, and of course presequal prequel twists.
>>740608547I dont like hags, but I wish they went with the manga's version of events where she gets killed at Chapter 10/11 just so we could have had her for a little longer.
>>740597562there's too much shit dropping in september so I'm hoping FE comes out in august
>>740608967We also didn't get that scene at the end where it shows the kings/queens in each nation hoping for their success. That would've been ULTRA KINO. Also a neat setup for making them unlockable in post-game campaign or something.
>>740600610>everyone ignoring Theodoramore chocolate warrior queen sexo for me then
>>740609279it's strange how a gba game like Sacred stones just gave you the main bosses and some royals to play with in the post game but some later games just refuse to do it
>>740603797this game can be a literal god game if they get the gameplay right. an FE that combines the strengths of the last two mainline games would be so good man
>>740609574Awakening technically did it also as free DLC, honestly I wonder why FE doesnt just do that more often, everyone knows its not canon content so why not just do it for fun?
>>740593742Why do they insist on making fire emblem ugly?Why do they insist on giving us 10 more fucking years of an ugly game like three houses?
Cutesythea
>>740594712Avatar reveal in a nutshell
>>740609679kinda feels engage might have had that planned for the hounds but they got recolored and sold as DLC instead
>>740609724hijacked by women and fags
>>740607209Felix shouldn't you be training
>>740609837The DLC would have been great if it was a way to finally see Alear's Dragon form, im still so upset we never got that.
>>740609724they saw 3H sales and hope to get that again by repeating the style.
>>740609995you know it's bad when the dragon girls can't even tramsform and need DLC for a dragon form
>>740609357All yours, please take Zedenya with you while you are at it.
>>740609995It really is frustrating how much squandered potential Engage had. I would've liked to see Alear's and Veyle's real mom too, and also a dragon form for Veyle.
>>740609357
we saw cai being controlled by the player in a hub in the first trailer, no way there's an avatar this time.
>>740609786She fucks her teacher
>>740604136The greatest.
>>740610254I'm anticipating each lord having their own hub
>>740609806I look like that and say those things and act that way.
>>740610509I can see something like that but with the city around the colosseum accessible to everyone, at least during the tournament part of the game
>>740609647Very true but... >>740606983
>>740609806Pretty much.
>>740610614I didn't know that there were cucks in the FE fanbase. I thought it was exclusively in anime and vtuber spheres.Huh learn something new every day.
>>740610509I can imagine something like the city area is shared, but they all have their own 'base' area in it. Theodora's is a war camp. Leda's is in the tavern. Dietrich is aboard his ship. Just some examples. Maybe their units hang out there too.
>>740606983Might as well add RD style supports to make sure it's the worst game known to.man.
>>740598263If anything, 3HRT is the one that damaged the brand. Who the fuck wants to play FE ever again after getting tricked into playing a shitty persona clone?Engage sold well at first because FE fans were going to consoooom the new product regardless of its quality. It proceeded to sell like shit afterwards because newcomers never wanted to touch FE ever again after 3HRT
>>740602113Radiant dawn is good because...IT HAS KIRITO AND ASUNA!!!!!!!!!!! OUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS JUST LIKE MY SEASONAL ROM COM ANIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>740610141IS has always been pretty stingy with dragon forms. Outside all the divine dragons in FE3 who can actually use dragon stones, we never saw the dawn dragon in Fates, Flayn and Seteth dragon forms in 3H, Alear and Veyle in Engage, Ninian being cutscene only and Nils non existent, etc.
>>740596553what happened to the FE fanbase? We didn't use to care about sales yet it seems to be the primary subject nowadays...I blame Heroes
best unit, best girl
>>740610828but Corrin still had his Dragon form available, and it wasnt particularly strong, but they could have given that to the DIVINE DRAGON even as DLC, they were teasing the whole "I lost my Dragonstone" or "I buried my Dragonstone somewhere" It would be kino if they got his memories back, he remembered the spot where the Dragonstone was buried and went back for it, sort of like a "Ill use this power of mine I feared for the greater good" kind of moment. Engage had a lot of narrative potential that it didnt even come close to fullfilling.
>>740610953I wish she didn't moan my dad's name in bed :(
Real Engage chads don't care about sales figures and simply want FW to be another great gameplay game, to show that IS is not dropping the ball in that area. I haven't seen anything too promising yet, but maybe it'll be good in motion, we'll see.
>>740610730My plan is to put together a team of the blackest most baboon players and myself and my perfect young white waifu for them to all run train on. I really hope it has the invite to your wife's bedroom option Conquest had.
>>740610953zased!
I want to see what "Curse" is/does in this game.
>>740610730>I thought it was exclusively in anime and vtuber spheresAnon, it's an anime game and Engage's characters were designed by a vtuber artist.
>>740611308It's probably some form of penalty for using big blaze arts to prevent abuse or something.
>>740611308Why is she such rapebait?
>>740610730>I thought it was exclusively in animeAnon, what the hell do you think FE is?
>>740610798This Anon has never taken an economics course, lol. Engage hit 1m right away than slowed to a crawl. 3H did not have a huge debute, but word of mouth kept pushing it higher and higher. You can litterally track how long it took both to hit a million sales, than 2 million, than 3 million.
>>740594712I really hope so.
>>740611472>backstory is her and her sister being raped and sold as slaves by bandits after they pillaged her hometown>wants revenge but end up losing to the same bandits again during the storyIS hire me I'll save this game
>word of mouth
>>740607901I actually got um...yeah...this image...mmf.
>>740607682Door stuck isn’t a soft lock even in an ironman. You just lost.
>>740611803>Doesnt understand word of mouth>No counterpoint>Bevis and ButtheadBrown pottery.
>>740611915Beavis and Butthead is one of the whitest shows ever, people really just call anything brown or tranny these days with no logic.
>>740604161If the silver shurriken guy attacked first he'd have gotten his speed debuffed and likely died after failing to double the other master ninjas.
>>740611915'Word of mouth' is a bullshit 'abstract' value that cannot be measured. Go on and show me these hard 'word of mouth' numbers though, retard.
i wonder what release date they have planned. because at this point. i have no hype for this game whatsoever
>>740612346Wouldn't that have made it so that he doesn't fight them all though, since he doesn't kill any more?
>>740611915who tf hates Beavis & Butthead
>these fags are getting angry about THEIR OWN SPECULATIONSweirdos
>>740612512It depends how the other enemies attacked. In this case he's exactly 1 point too slow to double unpromoted ninjas after a speed debuff so he might still live, but if you fail to one-round a master ninja they deal 40% HP after combat.
So what's going to be the next cope after this piece of shit outsells engage?
>>740612541This guy: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/HXec5_WsxAcxBTL0KF_NKw/
If there is not some /ss/, we're not buying!
>>740612319>>740612541Same fagging, sad.>>740612382I just did you fucking retard, lol. >>740611536
>>740612887BEEG NUMBERBEEG BEEG NUMBERBIGGEST NUMBER = BEST GAMEGAMES LOWER THAN BEEGEST NUMBER = BAD Kek, I like how you can pick out my posts by the level of education.
>>740612832Word of mouth
>call whatever the current topic/poster is brown with no further comment>cal any dissenters samefags>repeat until bump limitYep, it's a 4chan classic
>>740613454This is why women wont fuck you mutt.
>>740612887>>740611536>EnGAYgies btfo! X2but hes not wrong
Engage killed Fire Emblem
When you think about it, 3H actually did do damage to the series, because it failed to bring any new perennial fans to the community, as evidenced by the fact that they did not show up for the following releases. FW numbers may be telling about this too. Instead it invited a bunch of obnoxious 3H-onlies into the community who contribute nothing of value to general discussions.
>>740594712>timeskip BylethThat would be sick. I'm assuming it'll be the glasses girl, though.
>>740611530The only fire emblem anime i know of is that really bad OVA that was based off of a bad fire emblem game.
predict their fates
>>740613824>the following releases>pluralDisingenuous obnoxious schizo. If IS wanted peopole to buy Engage they should have made a good game.
>>740613824Ive heard Engage doesnt get the respect it deserves. It being so awful it filtered the normies back out is a feature not a bug. It was our silent protector.
>>740613919the guy looks cool so he probably isn't recruitable. I hate the girl's hair so she probably is.
>>740613919No idea, but in accordance with>>740613047 I hope the woman has some /ss/ potential.
>>740613919titties
>>7406138243 houses was only there to bring out the simps."The literal lizard men who have been living underground for 4000 years told me that the good guys are actually the bad guys so i'm going to listen to them because something bad happened to me when i was younger. Except that bad thing that happened to me when i was younger was actually caused as a consequence of the actions of the lizard people from 4000 years ago from when they let the genie out of the bottle."
>>7406139322/3rds of 3HRTs didn't even care enough about fodlanslop to show up for Three Hopes, which you forgot exists.
>>740613919Dead in 3/4 routes
>>740613932I would have bought engage if they didnt make the male mc look so fucking retarded and if they actually made it a harem game. Literally all i fucking need for a fire emblem game is male mc + shit ton of girls.
>>740614130>3HRTsah it was just a butthurt troongagie like always. Never mind.
>>740613919These are enemy commanders hundo p
>>740613919She's too swarmy for my plan >>740611097. Hopefully he has a 13 yrold sister.
>>7406141302/3 of Zeldafags don't show up for the musous guess the series is fucking dead!
>>740613919YOUR mom and dad who die in the first half of the game and it MAKES YOU CRY CAUSE ITS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>740614158Femlear is really cute though! An all girls run of Engage is smooth as butter, why do you need a self-insert for your harem?
>>740593742Sex with the glasses girl.
>>740614357>Why do you need a self insert for your haremUh except there is one?Why are you spreading lies on the internet???????????????
feels good hating both 3H and Engage, I'm already ready to hate FW
>>740614158Engage was awful but its litterally what you are describing. You played yourself. Put it on normal, kill the dudes, play as Pepsi haired Ghadaffi.
>>740614452She's cute. Hope she's an awkward nerd.
>>740614467Conquest bro....
>>740614467Based. Please tell me thats a pic you drew in the 90s.
>>740613919>one is red and one is blueimagine if they connect 3H and Engage settings
>>740597759Obviously they don't when there isn't any FE games on switch 2
>>740614452hmmm
>>740614535Im doing conquest next. Currently doing the 3rd route on on medium. Anything I should know?Im told hard Conquest is an experience.Im not looking forward to killing my new friends.
Big Sothis
>>740613919Alear's real parents...
>>740614821Shura isn't friend however he's boots. Remember that.
>>740594305Help, she stole all my cum!
>>740614328Yes.
>>740614821hard conquest is less an experience and more of "solve the puzzle to win, by the way all of your units suck and always will suck"
>>740613919>most conventional looking FE characters in the trailerEvil and/or murdered
the fact i am at risk of seeing someone who uses dlc classes in fates earnest opinion on unit/class/skill strength at any point during my day is a human rights violation
>>740615153I cannot imagine how you came to this wildly inaccurate conclusion
>>740614821Listen to >>740615153Conquest is a really shitty game with poor map design and balance where the best way to play if to pair corrin up with camilla and faceroll the game alongside xander when he joins. It’s truly Awakening 2.0
>>740613919They're the sponsors of Leda and Cai.
Sex with big sothis, glasses girl, gun nun, hatsune niggu, leda
FE fandom has nothing but larpers, nobody actually plays the games
I will not buy this game under any circumstance if it follows the CF canon like Hopes did
>>740615443don't you feel shame using that buzzword?
>>740615443I’m just here to goon bro, that’s pretty much it
FORTUNES WEAVE INTO A SPIRE OF FLAME
I think I have the fever
>>740615706predict her personality
>>740615285Uggg, so it just turns into a maddening run. Thats too bad.If there is one thing id change about this franchise its how any difficulty just makes 80% of the characters along for the ride. Series needs to figure how to fix that.
>>740615653I rember when Byleth got added the very thing I did was make an 8 player CPU match between every FE character and laugh at the load screen. Suffah, Smashies.
>>740615779Food
>>740615653Was Ike the first AAA homosexual main character in gaming?
>>740615785I wouldn't listen to what /v/ has to say about any game you haven't experienced for yourself. Conquest has a very well-balanced cast.
>>740615153>t. terrible at Fire Emblem
>>740615806Kek, who won?
>>740615890No, Ike isn't gay.
>>740615285Have you ever played Conquest?Because claiming that Camila and Xander are some unkillable god units is something only someone who hasn't played would say.
>>740615653Also post yfw if Smash 6 comes and FW gets a fighter but Engage does not. Alear does deserve a spot desu.>>740615961No idea, that was 6 years ago now.
>IS yaoi-baited so hard with Ike everybody thinks he's gay nowtruly the worst fate any lord could suffer
Do you guys like it when characters make reference to game mechanics in their dialogue?
>>740616282Nigga I don't know moonrunes
>>740604161if he crit an enemy he wouldn't have blocked as many attacks and would have diedthat's why forged bronzes are supreme
Ken-sama get that weeb!
>>740616282Why'd you post it in Chinese?
>>740615653I never played much Ike in Smash but now I've played his game I think he's pretty cool. Next time I play Smash I'll fuck around with him.FW will be my 5th FE, and ideally I'd like to play Awakening after that, though the fact it's locked to 3DS is a shame as my 3DS is a little knackered. Maybe I should get a used 2DS or something.
>>740616335Sounds like you should fix that.
>>740616428I don't have time I'm employed
>>740615785Conquest, unlike most other Fire Emblem games with a difficulty setting, is actually very balanced and a lot of thought was put into the difficulty from giving enemy pair-ups to changing their positions around the map compared to Normal and HardIt will never get to the point where you need to "solve a puzzle" per say, /v/ shitters say that because they love their juggernaut/guide cheese sort of gameplay.That said, the paralogue child maps are fucking gruesome for some.
>>740616621>paralogue child maps are fucking gruesome for some.Whoever designed Siegfried's paralogue in lunatic should be hanged. Fuck those overturned reinforcements that come every turn. Second worst map after Endgame and with no way to cheese it for a rather mediocre unit.
>>740616935It's not that bad. Nowhere near endgame.
>>740614158Huh?
have you chosen yet?
>very balanced>Camilla shows up on chapter 10 at the same time as Beruka
>>740617146Bros before hoes. Dietrich looks like edgekino and Cai could be a fun shounen protag, especially if he has a fun dynamic with glasses girl.
>>740597759I'm getting one specifically for FE
>>740617146For me? Alucard
>>740617321Same, should it ever launch. Everything is in development hell.
>>740617146Leda for the rape backstory.
>>740617146Leda sex
>>740617176>Every unit has to be exactly the same level of goodThat's how you end up with boring casts like Engage, where every unit viability argument comes down to minor stat differences at ILvl 35, or whether or not they join before you lose Sigurd.
>>740597759I got a Switch 2 at launch because I'm not poor.
>>740617474I thought the problem with Engage was that Kagetsu and the other midgame units outclass the early game ones. Does it change depending on what narrative you wanna spout?
>>740617665Have you considered that we're on an anonymous forum and you might be talking to multiple people?
>>740617476I just hit 6m two weeks ago and thought about purchasing one to celebrate, but besides FE9 and 10 I dont know what Id play?
>>740617784Sauce me a mil, richbro
>>740617831I cant, Im saving up to buy FE 9 and 10 hard coppies. Fucking ridiculous.
>>740617953I went to highschool with a guy who had a hard copy of Radiant Dawn. He was severely autistic and had tourettes; one of his tics was calling Micaiah cute.
>>740615153People go on and on about wanting BETTER MAPS but the reality is that the execution of said idea is usually a gimmick that gives you the illusion of difficulty. Everything is centered around the gimmick which means if you defeat the gimmick you basically steamroll everything.
>>740616935Its not a hard map, but its genuinely so fucking ass in quality.
>>740618203How do I defeat the gimmick on ch 16
>>740615443We are the only singleplayer fandom on /v/ that actually played games with screenshots on /v/
>>740617146Alucard or Primrose.
>>740618136what’s so bad about that
>>740618524Nothing. It was hilarious.
>>740618136Obscure used JRPGs are all going for around $300, game only no box or instruction manual. Really makes me wonder if hard copies of Elden Ring or Clair Obscure will be worth $500 25 years from now.
>>740597759with your broke ass
>>740618136That guy is probably in this thread right now
>>740618136>one of his tics was calling Micaiah cute.based
>>740615779
>>740610953Jeralt-sama's cumdump
Sorry, everyone. Micaiah just got forcibly adopted/conscripted to be Camilla's new dressup doll alongside Severa and Beruka.
>>740618660hilda's got the fever
>>740594189TimestayThe story just stops moving forward
I boughted a couple months ago because I knew which way the wind was blowing regarding price increases and stuff. Honestly though I don’t think anything else interests me yet, not until a new Mario/Zelda/Smash is announced at least. It’s basically just been a “Switch 1 HD” machine.
>>740618858>Camilla adopting yet another non-blood related white haired sibling
>>740618989The Direct is 95 minutes, so hopefully this is them actually announcing some fucking games for the thing.I miss E3 2014.
>>740618989
>>740603797>gambits and weapon artslol
>>740618954Those 2 have 0 chemistry
>>740615785Conquest has the most balanced cast in the series, without a hint of irony. We're just getting the gigacasuals with the shit takes in the thread as we inch towards a direct.
>>740596553It's not, but it wont beat the original 3H>no covid bump>no word of mouth incoming like before>install base is smaller than 2019>the game looks shittier than 3H>will be released during the GTA window then has to fight over Persona 4 and 6 mindshare>no KT involved and it will be ISIS trying to recapture it (unsuccessfully) I can go on, it is truly over for DEI weave if the trailer is more uninspiring shit, no one but a rabid minority will defend it... just like engage. But this is all a good thing, 3 years from now we can finally close the book on fodlan and move on.
>>740619061gambits and weapon arts were good thoughever
>>740618989The only game I was interested in was the new metroid but it turned out to be garbage, at this point I don't think I'll ever buy a switch 2
>>740619138>the game looks shittier than 3HWe're just being ridiculous now?
>>740619431I think Anon meant to say browngraded.
>>740593742>First FE was Awakening, enjoyed it>loved Fates for the great gameplay, even if the story was badly written>Didn't like Echoes for the awful gameplay and HORRIBLE maps>Didn't like Three Houses for all the gay persona shit and the gameplay was worse than the 3DS games >Didn't even finish Engage because it just didn't grab meI don't even know if I should bother with the new entry. I think maybe I just liked Awakening/Fates and don't even care about FE on the whole. The gameplay sucked in every other one I've played besides those two and the story is never good enough to hook me on its own.
>>740615785Radiant dawn solved this. Btw almost every in conquest (fuck off izana and nyx) is completely viable and with enough resources they can perform whatever specific roles you need them to
>>740619431By looks I dont mean graphics. Unless you think weave characters and the enclosed setting are better than the original then yes we are being ridiculous now
>>740619623I actually like Izana since he's often your only source or rally magic and luck.
>>740616282
>>740617784Play Bananza.
>>7406196453H characters are generic uggos, so yeah I do. Getting a little weeb energy into the designs from IS has improved things. Leda is hot unlike Edeltard.
>>740619623>Radiant dawn solved thisBy being shit?
>>740619607Engage is pretty good if you give it a bit of a shot, recommend a harder difficulty if its not grabbing you immediatelyEchoes did more damage to this series than any other entry
Sothis was better as a loli
>>740619050The Direct is NOT 95 minutes, the Treehouse after is. The direct is 50 minutes
>>740619623today I’m going to train up Fiona>*clueless:*
>>740618483you havent done a relay in years
>>740620037didn't they say the Direct was for shit coming out his year
What if the reason IS is being silent about this game is because theyre aware of the backlash they received about Cai Cenat being the MC that they are revising their designs like the ugly sonic ordeal.
>>740619997>Echoes did more damage to this series than any other entryExplian. I find it so weird when anyone talks about the game good or bad. Its the most vanilla game in the franchise.
>>740620101You don't matter.
>>740620101I'm sure they were devastated by the hate they got from /vpol/
>>740620046>had to look her up
>>740620087>The livestream kicks off with Nintendo Direct 6.9.2026, which will run for roughly 50 minutes and highlight upcoming Nintendo Switch 2 and Nintendo Switch games. Nope, it's just for all upcoming games. If the OoT remake rumor is true, then obviously that's not a 2026 release.
>>740620101You should consider going outside of this shithole's echo chamber if you think anyone actually cares about Cai's skin color
So what is it that you actually want them to announce?Split routes in FW? Radiant Dawn styled progression, instead? No avatar? Multiple avatars? Another musou? Another remake?What would get you excited?
>>740620031So was I :/
>>740620249Heroes EoS
>>740620198did they say it's first party online stream?
>>740620331Besides that.
>>740620249ranked modefixed growthsgood mapslimited reclassingnew movement mechanicroute split, but not shit and recycledskill emblem
>>7406202491. An avatar (mandatory)2. 4 routes (will play all except Cai)3. Shipping4. More QoL like the turn wheel
>>740619607Play FE 7 and FE 8.>>740620198According to Nate the Hate OoT is this holiday season.
>>740620249>What would get you excitededJune release date... and ships. All videogames need more naval battles/mechanics. Only game was that weird single level FE8.
>>740619997The mind of an engagefag is truly something else huh.The only damage SoV did was to highlight how every other recent FE lacks when it comes to presentation.
>>740620412I could punch you, faggot
>>740613919Stole this from /feg/ in 3 months
>>740620412>3. ShippingGod, imagine if IS leaves out paired endings AGAIN. The franchise might legit die.
>>740620473The one consistent between an engage and a conquest fag is neither one of them likes a single entry beyond their one game.
>>740620132Its an entry that has a lot of good art and music, but for all intents and purposes the more "Final Fantasy tactics" approach to combat arts and weapon progression, as well as the less focused map design really bring it down. Instead of taking the opportunity to fix what Gaiden did poorly, they opted to band-aid it with the turnwheel too.Out of the lessons, and things that would end up making it to the next entries, the turnwheel became the prevalent aspect they took from it, as well as the combat arts, completely erradicating the classic FE experience and ultimately turning the next entries into glorified Final Fantasy Tactics games.
>>740620473Muh presentation is literally the only good thing SoVfags can ever point to about the game.
>>740620473>The only damage SoV did was to highlight how every other recent FE lacks when it comes to presentation.SoVfags are unreal. Do you even like these series? The entire gameplay of Gaiden was changed about with some of the worst experimentation this series had (dungeon crawling was a good idea but they completely and utterly canned it) and brought the worst aspects of said experimentation to the upcoming games. Three Houses is as dogshit as it is as a game because of SoV. Engage likewise suffers even if its ultimately more refined in its gameplay, its still nowhere near as classic FE as it should be and is brought down by the aspects SoV left to it.
>>740620821>they completely and utterly canned it)I liked Gaiden and the final Dungeon
>>740619997I should give it another try. I did think the gameplay was a step in the right direction after Echoes and 3H fucked up so bad, but I dunno I guess I wasn't feeling the whole Engage ring gimmick, both story and gameplay-wise.>>740620132Well, some points that I'm pretty sure most shared about it were:>Maps are fucking atrocious, ranged from boring at best to downright nightmare sloggish at worse>combat has little tactical value. No weapon triangle, just hit the skill button to kill stronger stuff>Story is not awful but painfully bland and generic. Boy saves princess, and Celica is a retard>side content like dungeon crawls and point and click mode at ports were snooze-worthy fluffThe only thing Echoes had going for it was it did have pretty nice presentation. Voice acting and art were pretty good. Everything else sucked or actively tried to put you to sleep.
>>740617146Theodora warrior queen kino. She may be a crestlet but I respect her strength implicitly
>>740615153>by the way all of your units suck and always will suckNever play FE6 if you're genuinely this bad
I still cant believe they fucked up the Dungeon Crawing stuff in Echoes when Shin Megami Tensei IV had done this aspect a thousand times better much early in the 3DS lifespan. They put no effort at all in designing those outside of Grima's dungeon.
>>740621129SMT sucks because of the random encounters. All modern RPGs put respawning enemies on the overworld for a reason.
>>740594189It´s gonna all be a computer simulation, and (You) are actually from the real word and was sent to fictional fantasy world as part of the plot,would explain the futuristic shit and the mysterious girl with glasses, it will even retcon 3H as part of another simulation as wellImagine the complete seethe and meltdown if that were to actually happen
>>740620654>SoVfags you don't need to be a SoVfags to point out that SoV has one of the best if not the best presentation in the series. It released just before FE was at its peak in the nintendo zeitgeist so to talk about "damage done to the series" is retarded.>>740620821>Three Houses is as dogshit as it is as a game because of SoV.you are a clown
>>740621284SMT hasn't had random encounters for quite a while now.
>>740620806>Gullveig in just a coat, pounding on your door late at nightHot.
>>740621284SMTIV didnt have random encounters in the dungeons, it had holographic monsters you could attack and get advantage from.
>>740615153What? Hard is peak Conquest. It's like the goldilocks zone of FE gameplay. It's still a good challenge but it doesn't punish you for being unoptimal to the point you have to make meta picks. You can easily build up somebody like Peri or Nyx and reclass them as you please and still beat it.I beat Lunatic and it's similarly good and fun up until the last 5 maps or so. Then you kind of need to lock in with good units to or units you really jacked up to get through the cheesy bullshit you're subjected to near the end.
>>740621337>>740621402I played SJR then quit
>>740621334>you are a clownYeah I like Fire Emblem. I beat Three Houses in Maddening when the mode came out totalling 5 playthroughs. I still think it was as dogshit as it was because it was drawing several aspects from SoV that I didnt like in SoV nor did I like in TH either. You can cope, seethe, cry and shit your pants however you want, but it is a fact that SoV was a detriment to the series as a whole, one we will likely never, EVER move forward from.
>>740621439Eh, Nyx and Peri are still reasonable picks on Lunatic. The thing about Conquest is, it doesn't change generic enemy stats from Hard to Lunatic. But yes the last 5 maps get notably harder for other reasons.
>>740621576Honestly FE gameplay has gone downhill since SoV because now it's designed around a rewind feature instead of, you know, actually being playable.
Did Echoes sell well? I thought it bombed in sales? I don't really get why they went forward with making 3H's gameplay so similar (no weapon triangle, liberal use of special skills in battle, too many shitty open maps) instead of copying from Awakening and Fates that, at the time, had been the best selling games in the series. It's like they decided to copy the mechanics from the worst performing game they made over the best performing ones. Yet they lucked out because everyone loved 3H thanks to tea parties and Persona classes instead of the gameplay anyway.
>>740621439I understand why this skill exist, but it shouldn't be as punishing. Having a way to clear it faster would have made the endgame a lot less annoying to play.
>>740621798They copied the shipping and it was a hit, then engage removed it and it flopped. Sales and dating simulation have a direct relationship. Sales and gameplay quality do not.
>>740621489SJ is a cool setting but yeah the random encounters started to annoy me too much at sector Eridanus both times I've played.
>>740613919Gautier and Fraldarius btw
>>740621905It's wild how Engage somehow thought removing shipping for the first time inuhsince FE4was somehow a good idea.
>>740621874IE would be fine if you could only get debuffed by it once or twice, but as it stands it’s an over centralizing gimmick that makes people skip every map it’s on.
>>740621798It sold like 1m lifetime sales. To brainrotted zoomers who grew up on social media algorithms, this seems like a "flop", but it was a goddamn Gaiden remake, it was never projected to be a smash hit and 1m is kinda impressive for what it was.3H is not actually all that mechanically similar to it beyond the superficial, but proximal games tend to be similar to each other in certain ways in this series (e.g. FE6 borrowing heavily from FE5), so there need be no profound explanation for the similarities.
>>740620549WRONG i liked shadows too
>>740622106I've liked shadows more than a single FE game in the past decadeThat feels awful but I gotta follow my heart.
>>740621798Because Engage was the Fatesawakening follow up and was being developed at the same time as 3H. They didn't care about 3H in the slightest it was genuinely supposed to flop (not even made by IS and released unfinished in 2019, because Engage was supposed to come out in 2020), Engage was supposed to be the big money maker, so yeah it's very ironic that the opposite happened
>>740622242>Engage was the FatesawakeningNo it fucking isn't. It's nothing like them. Engage has more in common mechanically with 3H than Fateswakening.
>>740621995the game immediately before Engage already removed shipping thogh
>>740621995>since FE4RD and SD.
>>740621995They still let me marry Anna (9 years old) so they were pretty based for that
>>740622513RD has paired endings, even if the support system is nothing. And in SD you can't really do anything since it has a direct sequel just a couple years later.>>740622471Something about making the original 3H players feel bad if 3 Hopes had better resolutions. Understandable but annoying.
>>740621798the lack of weapon triangle and open maps comes more likely from the fact the game was inspired by FE4, not Echoes.You seem to think good gameplay = more sales but those are completely unrelated. Echoes flopped because it's a remake of an old title and release way too late in the 3DS lifecycle. 3H sold very well because people love to fight for which happy potter class is the best + manage student relationships.
>>740622471It's dumb that Hopes didn't have it, but it was a musou, so I feel that's held to a lower standard.There was no reason for Engage to not have it.
>>740622713FE4 invented the weapon triangle
>>740622690>RD has paired endingsYes, but the supports are what give the ships meaning. Unless you're trying to tell me shippingfags care more about a one sentence blurb in the ending saying two characters got married than their entire support chain.
>>740621798Koei were likely told to make a new game out of Echoes, or similar to Echoes. So they just added some Heroes skills and made the maps slightly less ass.>>740622713FE4 is what introduced Weapon Triangle.3H lacked it because of Echoes, and Engage similarly only "had" it as a Break condition, outside of Emblem Leif.
There is nothing more delicious than shipfag tears and I hopethey remove this garbage from this series forever so they can all finally fuck off.
>>740620549Maybe the other games should try being more like Conquest then
>>740622881I dont get it but let them have their fun. I like faggot Ike fujo shipping for the hiliarity.
>>740622468>Amnesic avatar with a secret evil sister and his dad is the villain btw>80% of the cast are retainers like in Fates>Quirks instead of personalities like Fates>Even the producers went on an interview to outright say the they wanted Engage to be the next Awakening Engage was so blatantly designed for the Fatesawakening crowd it's almost ridiculous, it's almost surprising they didn't call Kozaki back just to make it more obvious
Its time for you to reveal who you married in your playthroughs, OC only of course.>RobinNowi.>CorrinFlora.>Three HousesAnnette.>EngageHortensia.
>>740623041I don't ship because I'm not a woman
>>740620806I can see it...
>>740622859To be fair there is no axe user in Echoes so it doesn't feel as bad as in 3H
>>740622979Him not just diving into her asshole is simply unrealistic
>>740623110>I don't ship because I'm not a womanYou can pick the female option its okay, nobody's judging you.
>>740623041>RobinDid not know I was supposed to pair up...>CorrinOrange Samurai chick with the two sets of eyebrows.>Three HousesMy one true love, Helga.>EngageDropped before Marriage
>>740623041Awakening -> NowiConquest -> Beruka3H -> Marianne>>740623110This guy picked female robin and got raped by Chrom I can feel it
>>740623132I caught it my 3rd watch.
>>740623140>to be fairI mean, that was their stupid choice. There's no reason they couldn't have had any.So they handed off Echoes to Koei and told them to make a sequel, and Koei just did what they were told. If IS gets a pass for Echoes not having it, I'd expect it even less of the outsource studio!
How did Conquest manage to be so uniquely kino that people would only like the one game? Why couldn't any other FE games since then make a game that actually played well? Fates pushed the shipfag envelope for the series too, with the my castle and petting minigame stuff. But it didn't sacrifice the gameplay for it. Can't say it sacrificed the story uniquely either, since all the modern FE's have had shit stories to varying degrees, including 3H. (Edelgard as the twist villain was so retarded it might loop around to being kino though lmao)Why couldn't we keep getting our cake and eating it too after FatesAwakening's era?
>>740620610>completely erradicating the classic FE experienceThe other 3DS games already did that with Pair Up.
>>740623425>Why couldn't we keep getting our cake and eating it too after FatesAwakening's era?Awakening's gameplay was shit and so was Echoes. So were Birthright and Revelation.Why are you assigning the whole thing to "the FatesAwakening era" when even you say they were shit?
>>740611536>Engage hit 1m right away than slowed to a crawl.Exactly. FEfags bought the game straight away>3H did not have a huge debute, but word of mouth kept pushing it higher and higher. Vegans keep shilling their shitty game. Faggots fall for it and buy the game. They drop the franchise forever. Newcomers don't check out engage.It's that simple you retard
>>740623614I can't wait for Fortune's Weave to actually sell well just so see what your new cope will be
>>740623425Engage plays well but the issue with Engage is that its a 3D game and its a slog as a result, making the maps small was to its benefit otherwise we'd have another RD/PoR in our hands.>>740623521Nah, its a detriment to Awakening, but Awakening as a whole has a lot of detrimental features that make it less of a FE experience, Conquest doesnt have this issue and the game is balanced around the pair-up gimmick, you cant say the same about the other FE games that came after, to its detriment.
>>740623529Conquest's (Fates') gameplay is shit too. The 3DS was a dark age.
>>740623425All the games have flaws in one way or another, it just so happens that conquest’s saving grace is its gameplay so all the srpg autists in the fanbase latched onto it
>>740623673SureI'm not buying it btw, already learned my lesson
>>740623735What games do people who think this even like? lol
>>740623041>RobinMaribelle>CorrinFelicia>BylethAnnette>AlearYunaka
>>740623743I think people who play FE for its story need to be beaten with a baseball bat in the head honest to god, this franchise is nothing special when it comes to story.
>>7406238023HGenealogy of the holy war (waiting for the remake so I can play it for the first time)Heroes
>>740623682>Conquest doesnt have this issueYes it does.>the game is balanced around the pair-up gimmickThat's a bad thing because pair-up is shit.
>>740623897>pair-up is shitwhy?
>>740623897explain why Pair-up is shit and explain why you favor Canto.
>>740623863You forgot the Warriors games.
>>740623852I want both personally, I don't expect good story from FE but I need to care a minimum about the cast so moving them on the grid doesn't feel like a chore.
>>740624138Not even 3HRTrannies pretend to like 3 Copes
>>740594712fuck that, no more avatars please
>>740623852Only Fatesawakeningfags think this. Jugdral and Tellius have always been praised for their story
>>740624159That I can agree with, I find the character writing to be more important in FE, I didnt mesh with many of the Engage characters because of this same for a few (Alcryst, Hortensia and Veyle)
>>740623041Robin & LissaCorrin & Anna*Byleth & CatherineAlear & Goldmary*I think this was my second run but I do not remember who I married in my first BR save
>>740624159Yeah, the modern games keep trying to make the characters more customizable/needing investment. But I don't want to invest in characters I don't like, even if the gameplay is better.
>>740623673Every single switch 2 game has flopped boss
>>740623041>robinuh lucina maybe?>corrinToo many to count>3hlol>engageI kept marrying merrin every run for whatever reason. I dont even particularly like her more than the other girls
>>740624340When I wasn't enjoying Engage's late game, what would've kept me going was if I gave a fuck about more of them, but when you get revealed that the main villain hates everyone too and just wants to leave, it makes you just want to stop playing lmao, or join him.
>>740623805Good taste
>>740623041>RobinAnna>CorrinCamilla I think first?>Three HousesAnnette>EngageAnna
>>740623425the >only liked conquest and hates all other feis just a meme
>>740624031It's overpowered and doesn't make logical sense. Why do you get stats for free? Why is there literally zero drawback for pairing up, just benefits? Dual strikes and guards provide way too much benefit with absolutely no drawback. Being able to 100% stop every third incoming attack is fucking insane. Just like you said, the game is centralized around it, so if you try to play without using it, you're guaranteed to have a bad time. On the other hand, rescue is a good mechanic because there are drawbacks to it, and it makes logical sense. Bigger people would be able to pick up smaller people, but they would fight worse while holding them. Mounts have room on the saddle. The games aren't designed around rescue, and you can even enjoy them without using it once, but it rewards you for using it well, such as for rescue chains, or making bold plays with weak units.
>>740624584I liked the fact that the main villain was just leaving and Alear was like "get the fuck back here we are not done." that I very much liked.
>>740624652Game warring accelerated/degenerated so quickly since the inception of the relays. Playing only one game at a time forced people to get really combative.
>>740624106pair up is shit because it's just a numbers go up mechanic which only serves to magnify the main weakness of the series where your big numbers guy solves every problem just by existing. canter is a good mechanic because it unlocks more positional play and player phasing.
>>740624754>Why do you get stats for free?two units working together.>Why is there literally zero drawback for pairing up, just benefits?you get less actions per map to cleanse enemy armies.>Dual strikes and guards provide way too much benefit with absolutely no drawback.Dual strikes are an awakening-only thing.>Being able to 100% stop every third incoming attack is fucking insane.thats an Awakening-only thing.
>>740624754>>740624886Canter and rescue both suck and they steal the roles of dancer and healer. Simple FE should not have either of those. I’m fine with them being in skill emblem.
>>740624754>Why is there literally zero drawback for pairing up, just benefits?You have way fewer player actions if you have everyone paired up all the time. You can argue that dual guards are overtuned, which I would agree on to an extent, but it's outright false to say there's only upsides.>Dual strikes and guards provide way too much benefit with absolutely no drawbackI'm confused. You CAN'T dual strike if you're paired up. What are you on about?The rest of your post is just "it's different than GBA so it's bad".
>>740624970>thats an Awakening-only thing.No it isn't, do you not know how the guard gauge works? Guard gauge is also 100% guaranteed activation when full, unlike Awakening's, which was a % proc with a cap.
>>740625018More EP actions are gained than PP lost so that’s not a drawback. He was probably speaking about it in general so he included an awakening pair up criticism..
>>740625104>do you not know how the guard gauge works?Blocks enemy-assisted strikes, and blocks one attack every 6 interactions.
>>740625018>"it's different than GBA so it's bad"Maybe you should actually read the reply chain, because we were literally talking about 'eradicating the classic FE experience'.
>>740624970>thats an Awakening-only thing.NTA but assuming you double, that's accurate for guard gauge buildup. >>740625104It is overtuned, but if we're being honest the enemies are way more threatening in their hit rates and damage, so even with that you're at a far greater risk of death than you'd be in say a GBA game where enemies struggle to deal 8 damage with like 30 displayed hit (which gets lowered even further by 2rn).>>740625141You can't "gain" EP actions because you don't have EP actions.
>>740625162>blocks one attack every 6 interactionsI.e. every third incoming enemy attack (absolute worst case fourth if you're slow/WF).
>>740623041>RobinLucina>CorrinDepends on the route , in general Anna>Three HousesHapi>EngageMerrin
>>740625270EP and PP combat is identical outside of who attacks first. Healers and dancers aren’t getting paired up. The game is mechanically the same on either phase.
>>740624754I agree with this anon, I always thought it was dumb how Rescuing gave you a stat penalty yet Pair Up gives you stat boosts. You can say it reduces your action economy but we both know the benefits far outweigh that loss due to the way FE works and how powerful making a juggernaut has always been throughout the series.
I don't like pair-up because it looks messy on the map. one unit per tile is more readable.
>>740625141In conquest, having too many pair ups will eventually fuck you up if you lack enough actions to clean up a formation during your turn.
>>740625494>I always thought it was dumb how Rescuing gave you a stat penalty yet Pair Up gives you stat boostsRescuing is often still more powerful because canto allows for shit you cannot do in Fates like killing a threatening enemy and then rescuing the unit who did it out of range of other nearby enemies.
>>740625563this, especially because you dont have enough juggernauts that would be able to take on the clean up, which most enemy AI will target for being weaker.
>>740625453>outside of who attacks firstSometimes even that's not true, as proven by that Vantage Velouria dude.
>>740623852Imo the plot has always been basic at best and detrimental at worst. Its the short character stories that really stand out in each game.
>>740625663This is why to me Blue Lions carries 3H on its back so hard, all of its involvement is character-focused storytelling rather than caring about the overall plot
>>740625663>>740625889More or less yeah, I don't need a strong plot, just goobers I care about on a surface level, it's not asking for much but it's surreal how FE fails at this every now and then.
