I finished this game. In fact I did two newgame+ runs to get all of the endings and even defeated the final superboss without using a meme strategy.Discuss
Why did you play this slop, are you proud of yourself
>>740604834You played an excellent game anon, now go play the rest of them because they're all good. Just don't play the Untolds on story mode, play them on classic only.
>>740604997I like team building, dungeon exploration and coming up with strategies to defeat bosses.
>didn't use a meme party for abyssal or Ur childYes you did because this one is pure rng if you die each turn and the other follows a set pattern that you just parry correctly
>>740604834It sounds like you've seen pretty much everything the game has to offer so I don't know what more can be discussed.I gave up after getting my ass gaped by all the postgame bosses to be honest.
>>740605204What's the difference?
I had a tiny bit of hope that the start of the P6 trailer was going to be Etrian based on it being kind of silly to reveal both P4 remake and P6 on the same day, but deep down I knew it wasn't going to be Etrian
Best BGM gohttps://youtu.be/wrJcrGnoY34
>>740606771Story mode has fixed protagonists and is not EO, Classic is how the series normally is where you make your own party.
>>740606771You have a pre-set party on story and some extra content, on top of having more focus on the new story obviously. Even if you don't care about the story you miss out a bit on the extra content and unique storymode jobs. Classic is basically the original game but with updated mechanics.
>>740605204>Just don't play the Untolds on story modei play for the *checks notes* Arianna and Chloe bath scene in Untold 2
>>740606869https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6m3-h-E4gE
>>740605204>Just don't play the Untolds on story modeI won't. I feel like assigning a personality to my guild members is a big part of the experience.
>>740606848The silly part would be revealing a game like EO in an Xbox showcase. It would be very out-of-place there, it's at the Direct tomorrow or we continue to wait in limbo.
>>740606848It looked nothing like EO, I think it was fairly evident that it was P6 even before the official reveal. I still have some hope that Next Stage will happen someday, but I don't think it'll be until after P6. Maybe I'm misremembering a bit, but I feel like Atlus' marketing for a bit now was to have one game that gets the brunt of the marketing, then another game is given an announcement but it doesn't actually take the lead in the marketing until the first game is released. Anyway, this is all to say that I think they'll want eyes on P4R until it releases and then they'll want eyes on P6, and maybe they'll announce they're working on something else like SMT, EO or a remake of something else during P6's marketing so that that game can take the lead when P6 is out. If it is to be SMT or EO, I could see them letting SMT wait a bit for a change so they can finally get Next Stage out there. The absolute most I would expect in the near future is just a second collection with the 3DS games.
>>740607152You get cucked out of classes if you don't play Story mode.
>>740607415It's not worth it for them anyways, it's better to just play the game properly.>>740607152Good, you're on the right path.
>>740604834etriam is reclining...
>>740604834I'm playing Etrian Odyssey 4 and I don't get the appeal of Dancer and Nightseeker classes? How do I build these two classes to make them effective and their subclass?
>>740606771In both of them you have a fixed party of 5 characters and can't make any more. Untold 1 gives you two unique classes that classic can't use (without NG+ing into classic with them) and Untold 2 has 1 such class. Untold 1 also has a side dungeon that you do 1 floor of between each stratum that's completely inaccessible in classic mode. Untold 2 has a similar side dungeon but classic can choose to enter it.I shouldn't have to say this but story mode also has more cutscenes and dialogue, hence the name story mode.Personally I think classic mode is fine. Obviously party building is an important part of the game but it's not like there's anything wrong with using a fixed party for a change either. As someone who normally makes ailment focused parties it's a good change of pace to try something different.
>>740606848I was the same bro, I was hoping that the statue was actually a yggdrasil tree. Only dungeon crawler we have to look forward too is Demon Kill Demon from Experience Inc
>>7406048343 had multiple endings? I thought the whole series was supposed to be very linear.
>>740608590Yes, 3 has a branching point in the third biome that dictates which of two classes you unlock and what final boss you get
>>740604834I've picked up EO3 recently too, nds version. Fully cleared EO1 which is a 10/10 game and gave up before clearing 6th stratum in EO2 which is not as good of a game. So far 3 is just as good as 1
>>740608016Nightseeker is simple: you land ailments and then use that opening to deal huge damage. You want their proficiency skills that give you a massive boost against ailing targets. You want Follow Trace obviously and then Shadow Bite or Swift Edge for damage. Chuck knives, land an ailment, then do lots of damage and hope that Follow Trace kicks in.Dancer is buff support but can be built as an offensive chaser as well. How you build them really depends on the rest of your party and what role you want them to fill. They can replace medics and act as your healer if you want them to. Their dances that give the line ailment/bind recovery are very good support.
the best game in the series is 4 and its not on steam, what the fuck are atlus doing
>>740608735Do any of the other EO games have something like that?
Thank you God - It's fucking perfect.
>>740608016Dancer is a buffing class, so the point is to make your other units better. Attack up, defense up, and passive healing/ailment curing are all pretty simple to understand I would hope. The extra burst gauge stuff is also pretty good support.Nightseeker is a very straightforward damage dealer. The class skill is +100% / +140% / +180% damage to enemies that have an ailment so obviously they can do a lot of damage. They don't really pop off until you clear the second stratum and unlock a new class that specializes in inflicting ailments, though their own ailment skills aren't so bad that they're unusable until then. Their late game poison skill is also extremely good.
>>740605829get out newfag
>>740608443I was really enjoying Undernauts until I got absolutely fucking bodied by a boss. Might have been in the 2nd or 3rd dungeon, cant remember by this point, with two automaton female sentinels? I vaguely remember one being red, one being blue. They pushed my shit in and I couldn't progress.
>>740608939no. all of the other games are completely linear
>>740604834ok, but did you do elder dragon?
>>740608836>>740609098Thanks I was all over the place on my Nightseeker and going to reset their stats for ailments. I think my Dancer was mostly a frontline healer but lacking in damage when it came to combat
>>740608956too point hungry + you should be able to have multiple summons active at the same time
>>740605986You've never played these games and only have surface level knowledge from reading about them online, am I right?
>>740606869EO music is too good. Also loli monk pits
>>740609265Thank god. I just started 2 and my autism would've compelled me to beat both routes but I really don't want to have to play through the same game twice like that.I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get to 3.
Is Etrian Odyssey good or what?
>>740609610It's thrilling for the first three regions. Then it gets kinda predictable.
>>740609517You can get through the other routes in like 1-2 hours since ng+ means you can just blaze through the main story
>>740609291Dancer can do damage if you put some points into their various chase skills. For example, since nightseeker can attack twice with Blade Flurry (which you should have), each attack will procure a chase.
>>740609291Yeah dancer isn't going to be doing a lot of damage and is much more support focused. Another important thing to note is that you can rearrange your party formation for free at the start of each turn, so you can move people around to change who the buffs are hitting if you need to.>>740609517It's not as bad as it sounds if you carry your characters over into NG+ since you'll out level pretty much everything. Even when you get back to the end of the game you'll be at least a bit overleveled so the other bosses shouldn't be too much trouble.
>>740609610Yes, the series is excellent. It's not for everybody though.
I've never done the post-game in any of these.
>>740609260Drop a monster flower somewhere good and grind a bit.
>>740609984that's where all the fun is though
>>740610114The start of the sixth stratum in 1 was so tedious that when I saw the next two floors were nothing but pits and damage tiles I knew it wouldn't be worth doing.
>>740610114I finished the postgame in 1 and there was absolutely no fun to be had there.
>>740609260I just did that area recently, honestly you're not missing anything, the game just kinda sucks and every bossfight is just hoping they don't do two partywides in one turn and wipe your healer because it's pure RNG what they do and there's no way to defend or mitigate that aside from just grinding out a preposterous amount of HP on everyone.
>>740609984it's always Atlus slop busy work where you use your instawin ability ad nauseam in combat, when you get to postgame in EO you're better off playing a different dungeon crawler where the devs actually care
>>740610391what?
>>740610257I did too and I had so much fun
>>740611021where'd your fifth character go
>>740610257This looks fun to me, sounds like you just don't like dungeon crawlers
>>740611481haha we don't talk about that
>>740610257You're the reason DRPGs are so bland and uninspired these days
>>740611579Not when you have shit like a pitfall maze that exists just to pad out the game's length.
>>740610257Soul
>>740610391Why would someone bother to bot an Etrian thread?
>>740611690bro...the game blatantly shows you the safe path you have to take...
>>740611690Sounds great thats how labyrynths should be. Back in the day we had teleport mazes where the game wouldn't tell you what cardinal direction you were facing
>>740609382I have the originals and the figure set and you literally just parry abyssal god if you didn't abuse the fuck out of pirate/ninja subs trash man.
>>740611690ahem>cast FOE tracking spells and mark their paths>half of the floor is solved for you
>>740604834>beat 3 (just one ending), 4 and Untold>left all the others half-finished>years pass by>can't remember what each skill does>can't remember my party's autistic lore>can't be arsed to start over Owari da
>>740611984The more you say the more it becomes clear you have no idea how the games work
>>740611984>parry>pirate (actually buccaneer) instead of shogun for cheese
My team for the abyssal god?>hoplite>prince >buccaneer >zodiac >wildling
>>740612006I took a year break after beating the first two games, took one evening of "lets try it again" to get immersed, addicted and obsessed over the games again
>>740612006Quit being a pussy and start over
The way the Persona 6 teaser panned vertically across gravestones, exactly like the Etrian Odyssey: Next teaser did seven years ago, was cruel. For a moment I almost thought it could have been Etrian Odyssey...
>>740612965But my 60 guild members in Nexus...
>>740612990next stage? more like never stage
>>740612990Direct tomorrow for sure.
>relaxing FM tunes moments before your loli squad gets all of their holes used & abused by the local wildlifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNdd6l5Cf4Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBf_Pf2gdfk
which of these games is the absolute easiest?
>>7406135694
>>740613569they're all easy enough outside of superbosses, just start chronologically
The developers always put emphasis on using your imagination to build the story around your team's adventures. Have any of you anons imagined what happens to your party when they lose to the labyrinth monsters?
>>740614875No because I'm not a normal addicted retard
>>740614875I didn't think about it in EO1In EO2 and EO3 Alice just shifts into the next timeline. Alice is the one who draws all of the maps so this is why map progress is kept between party wipes.
>>740614875no because the moment someone dies I reset cuz I don't like uneven exp. yes I hated 3 and never finished it
>>7406048343 and 5 are peak.Shame the series is turbo dead.
>>740612990Accept that Persona 6 cannibalized it.
>>7406155703 actually cured my XP autism. I try to keep them even for as long as possible, but if they aren't I can just deal with it now.
>>740616278Between Metaphor and Persona 6 I unironically wonder if Etrian Odyssey ideas have been repurposed.
>>740615570Everyone has even exp in my EO3 playthrough. And it's my favourite EO. >>740616483>3 actually cured my XP autism.Didn't cure mine. It intensified it.
what even are these games, turn based jRPG?
>>740616869Turn based RPGs that deprioritize story in favor of team building and dungeon exploration
>>740616869you crawl around in dungeons
>>740616869First-person dungeon crawlers with turn-based combat. Wizardry clones.
What's the artist doing these days
>>740606848if we ever see this IP again it will be a rogue effort wallowing in mediocrity on a shoestring budgetthe greatest sin to atlus faggots; it's not persona slop
>>740616869jRPG blobber
>>740618662it's not like those kinds of a games need a huge budget
>>740618990exactly it wouldn't need a lot to have a huge increase on game quality but it has to be more than a handful of dudes using their spare time while atlus routinely forces them to make other games nobody asked for like persona Q
>>740606869Too many to post, she here's the best town theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghJFozko-uY
>>740604834if you didn't use a real paper grid & a pencil you didn't beat the game
>>740620851Runner up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtVvMzES24
I beat 3.Dropped 1 halfway in.Didn't even touch 2 because I heard FOE drop no exp.I don't like games where I'm meant to do homework for, either the automap works on its own or I WILL drop your game once I get tired of manually marking down all doors, stairs, damage floors, traps, shortcuts, one way passages, etcI got like 2 floors into the cyclopean haunt and just didn't want to do that anymore.
>>740617976He did some chibi designs for some Experience game and is also apparently working on some game from the ex Nis president. Neither look very good, what himukai should be doing is working EO6.
>>740613559>tsw the wildlife strolls off into the sunsethttps://youtu.be/rl0NgSbKHMk
>HD versions fix some bugs and stuff>Beasts protecting allies using the ally's defense score wasn't fixed/changed>meaning the giant, hulking bear gets hit as if it was a little flat girlFatlus' incompetence knows no bounds.
>>740621320Filtered.
>>740623954those five in that picture have set off on an adventure to kill a god!
>>740620960>post-game floors become so convoluted and complex that the ingame tools can't adequately map them outwaow!
>>740624818how moddable is the game? have people tried to add extra fixes or patches to the HD versions? I've only played the originals where you kinda have to accept that some stuff is bugged
>>740606869https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cChS3UZmfI
I'm at the sandy barrens in nexus and the game is starting to get very repetitive and boring
>>740623954>Male alchemistAbsolutely disgusting.
>>740626793Only patricians appreciate glasses Alchemist.
>>740605204What is this, a telephone card?
>>740605829>HAHAHAHA SAAR YOUR NICHE SINGULAR PLAYING GAME DIDN'T DO THE SALES MAXXING!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>>740627275anon do not feed attention to the subhuman, leave him to wallow in his faggotry and let this be a peaceful place to discuss all things etrian
I just found out there's an Etrian Odyssey expansion in a game called Aquarian Age.They're cute.
>>740626780yeah it has that tendencynever finished the postgame
>>740615028what does that even mean retard
>>740626780You've gotten further than I ever have in Nexus. Don't think I ever got past the ancient forest. That game's main problem it that it's just dull.
Been a while since I last played them. How are the 3DS games?
>>740629140>How are the 3DS games?More of the same.
>>740629140I recently started Untold 1 on classic and so far it's pretty much just the original game but with different maps and 3D graphics. It's fun, but not really anything new.4 and 5 are both excellent though, you should play those.
currently doing a solo ninja run in 3 and hopefully now that I have tengen battou important fights will be much shorterstill, having to pick the right fights is pretty interestingany more than 2 enemies usually means death and even then you gotta play very carefully using shadows until you have enough breathing room to spawn cloneslevel 1 was probably the most brutal considering the only enemies you can actually win against are durians and even then you're at the mercy of rng for two whole fights until you hit 2 and can finally kill them reliablysince this is my first time using a ninja, how good is the evasion buff skill? I don't want to get trolled by accuracy like in 5
>>740629074I didn't find it dull. It's for people that really like the combat and party building aspect of the series. It has a lot of content though so it's perfectly natural to take a break and come back later if you start to get burnt out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1_7UQHIDcA
>>740629140They're all good and worth playing if you like the series. Main thing that started from 4 onward is enemy rear lines, 3D enemy models, 2 level rests, weakness info in battle (now in the hd versions of 1-3), rare breed enemies, free party reformation in combat (that doesn't use a turn), and probably more I'm forgetting. Both 3 and 4 are probably my favorites overall.
>>740630680pacing is usually a lot better in everything after EO3 toothe original trilogy are very grindy
>>740632121the grind's not bad in 3, and in 1 your max level being 70 caps the grind out after a certain point. original eo2? now that one I don't know what the hell they were thinking
>>740625638yeah
>>740633149You shouldn't need to retire more than once in eo2 so there's no reason to care about the level cap thing. There's no good way to get a gathering party up to speed so it's a bit grindy in that way but otherwise it's not bad.
>>740626793I selected the dude portrait as her look in 2.
>>7406291404 is EZ MODE until Stratum 3 and the game suffers a lot for it.Untold 1 Classic is a fun remix of 1. Story mode is ass.Untold 2 is kino.5 is kino.Nexus is ok but the Untold 3 they clearly had planned would have been sick.
>>740633721
>>740616869Wizardry but with less sauce and more cute girls and more teambuilding>>740629074or maybe Nexus is the only one that has no sauce idk
>>740633565In the hd version you can just turn on picnic mode and have your team of low level units kill the stratum bosses.
etriams has reclined
>>740605829Can you go and jerk off to sales numbers somewhere else faggot? People are here to talk about and play games.
>>740604834I think it needed more level caps earlier. You should be a lot more underpowered through most of the content imo
>>740605204I did Untold 1 and I did enjoy going through with the 2 classes, the one unique boss and going to the weakened final boss.It was really fucking funny when you can go back to the Claret Hollows, not take the shortcut and realise how much bullshit you actually skipped, especially if you wanted to fight the boss at full power.Some of the enemies there got a real glowup compared to the DS version that fucked me up royally when I didn't know their changes.Fuck you Iron Crabs in particular.
>>740634905You can always rest if you start to get too above the level curve. The 3DS entries added a color indicator to the FOEs on the map to let you know their relative strength as well. Unfortunately they didn't bring that over to the 1-3 hd collection.
>>740605871I feel like the team building aspect is a bit limited early game, some combos are absolutely necessary to beat the 1st /2nd bosses
>>740633904I pretend the black hair dude is her but all fucked up and edgy from years of combat.
>>740617976>>740623809Don't forget that he also did the "not-Persona" designs in Metaphor.
>>740624818That's the core EO2 Beast experience.
>>740626793The edgy male alchemist is the best one.
>>740616604If it's your favorite why would you ignore its main gimmick?
etriams
odds of eo6 announcement today?zero?
reminder that the most openly fanservice EO game sold the least, and was hated by literally everyone except few weirdos.So after new game is announced on today's direct, you better bully any "anti censorship/anti woke" retard on spot, or threads would go to shit
>>7406388070
>>740638807I expect 4 remake
>>740638807You mean tomorrow? 1%. If we get anything, it'll likely be HD Collection 2.
Atlus hates nintendo these days
>>740638814Yeah because it was fucking paid DLC.
>>740638814>reminder that the most openly fanservice EO game sold the least, and was hated by literally everyone except few weirdos.Yeah because it was absolutely dogshit. This isnt a softcore porn gsme published by Compile Heart, faggot.
>>740639063You say that, but having more fight and superbosses as paid dlc, is literally the only redeeming part of u2, both 5 and nexus could greatly benefit from it
What was the problem with U2? I never played it.
>>740639223Was more of dungeon travelers/disgaea than EO game.
>>740638814i want cute girls in full clad armor for my etrian
U1 and U2 should have been remastered on the shitch over og 1 and 2, they're just fucking irrelevant
>>740639212Fuck off and kill yourself.
>>740638814otaku hate any female character who isn't for (you) if it's not a cardboard cutout porn fantasy hebe they flame italso the main dude reminded them of bullies
>>740639779Fafnir is (You)
>>740638807Zero. At absolute most there might be another collection for the 3DS games.
>>740639779>otaku hate all rance and taimanin girlsWhat a weird copeYou are really mistaking animes with games
>>740639037Atlus' relationship with different consoles has always been weird. They're probably the least weird now that they've ever been but the fact that they seem to have some kind of Xbox association, always showing up at their shows, is a little odd. I don't even get the impression Atlus is popular among Xbox users.
Never got the hate for Abyssal God desu it was more fun than the "write 50 steps or die" shit yes even the input reading it was kinobest theme too
>>740638814untold 2 sold terribly because everyone was pissed about le millenom girl and how it was >an obvious betrayal of the entire reason etrian exists to try and cater to the more modern /vitagen/ drpg audienceand>despite being "etrian with more of a story focus" it actually completely ruins everything that makes the story in eo1 cool, like giving away the reveal in the opening fucking cutscene
>>740639223Very offence oriented with crazy high skill modifiers and enemy hp to match. A bunch of the bosses have gimmicks where they summon adds that wipe your party if you don't clear them, furthering the need for high offense over slower defensive strategies. People sometimes complain about hp bloat compared to previous games but that's not completely accurate since your damage skills are also stronger, but this does mean you sort of need to build your party right (offensively) or you'll struggle. Some people complain about the story class being OP and the game being balanced around him but classic with a hexer and dark hunter will have an easier time.
EO2 is also the worst EO game so remaking it doesn't really do much for it.
>>740640084RetardOnly thing about u1 that people really disliked was grimoire system being annoying as hell and poorly madeOnly total retards most of whom never even played series pretended to care that game released decade after first, tells you that EO takes place on earth.>an obvious betrayal of the entire reason etrian exists to try and cater to the more modern /vitagen/ drpg audienceClassic mode was still there
>>740637335>If it's your favorite why would you ignore its main gimmick?The seafaring? I made separate teams for that. And kept those teams even with their exp.
>>740640264>rickyfag trying to rewrite historyStory Mode was and is reviled.
>>740640237>Changed terrible maps>Changed terrible class balance>Changed terrible music>Changed no exp from foeface it, u2 was shit on it's own, nothing from og eo2 dragged it down>>740640339u1 is literally one of the most beloved etrian games
>>740640264Get the fuck over it. Simply daying "Nuh uh!" doesnt change the fact that those were the reasons the untold games bombed>classic modeContent locked to story mode was not available to classic. This was fixed in U2 and it still stank
>>740640410>u1 is literally one of the most beloved etrian gamesMaybe in your discord circlejerk
>>740604834I was playing it until I unlocked the mechgirl class, then I read that you had to play the whole game 3 times to get the true ending and my motivation to keep playing died instantly. What I played I really enjoyed though, what I usually don't like about RPG's is that bosses are just braindead and are never really challenging, but the EO3 bosses I fought were tough to beat and very rewarding.
>>740640410>u1 is literally one of the most beloved etrian gamesIt's the least popular after original EO2.
>>740614875no
>>740640264very hylic post. again if they wanted to make an etrian with more of a story focus (like 7th dragon 2020 ended up being) why would you take the objectively coolest thing about the game you're remaking's story and do less then nothing with it by giving it away in the opening cutscene just so we can have the obligatory synthetic blonde gf that was in every 10's otaku media? eo1 was very specifically designed around the lost shinjuku reveal, which is why they gave everyone weirdly modern boots in what's otherwise very typical fantasy designsthey also whitewash how fucked up the etrian government is in the remake, no racial cleansing of the forest folk because we need the tourist money of throwing hopeless adventurers into the labrynth and if everyone thinks it's impossible (or completely explored) then the money dries up. instead the head of etria gets mind controlled into being evil.they removed all nuance in the games story and replaced it with nothing despite being a remake focused on fleshing out the story, so we have lots and lots of cutscenes where characters yap about their 2 personality traits and haha so funny like every other saccharine mindless bland uninteresting post 2000 jrpg that kazuya niinou was trying to get away from when he made the OG game in the first place. it stinks. at least untold 2 went full chunnige with the typical angsty half demon man and his big titty princess GF stuff, that's at least comitting to standing for anything instead of standing for nothing like untold 1 does
>>740640523you can get the true end the first time you're just locked out of 1 class
the main problem with untold is that it makes the game about the kind of characters who you'd find dead to a random battle a couple hours after meeting them in the DS etrian games, like naruto and his neurotic zodiac partner in 3
>>740639407They probably will and they're going to charge $60 per game because fuck you
>>740640432Only 2 bombed, 1 sold almost as much as 4, and even then 60k opening week is not bad. Bombing is EMD2 doing sub 20k sales
>no Untold 3 with Imperial>no Untold 4 with Necromancer
Lads help me get over my autism which versions of these games do I play? I've currently got saves going in all 3 versions of EO1.
>>740640924I will choose to trust you bro, just this once. I might play it again someday, it still sucks that you have to play the whole game all over again just to get a new class, seems like padding. What also killed my motivation was that I felt like I would've ended burned out of EO games after playing the same game 3 times and I wouldn't want to keep going with the rest of the series, which sucked because the other ones looked fun too.
>>740641464If you really only want to play through it once, the HD version. But EOU on Expert is the hardest game in the series so that's worth playing too
>>740639852basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WYRQXrn7YM
>>740641464the HD versions are the best. there's a few weird things you can fix with mods like the font, but the "bug fixes" that massively buff weaker classes and the map drawing is way smoother then emulating would be
>>740607152I love how little gameplay decisions you make also affect how you see your characters.>have a monk in EO3>basically just your rowdy punch girl>get access to subclasses>decide to double down on her support role and give her princess>now all of the sudden she has this backstory of being a secret princess who was shipped off to a monastery for her own protection
next stage drops tonight... BELIEVE
>>740640852So to sum up, Untold has more dialogue but less story?
>>740641573do you have the one where he's holding signs with GOD HATES FAGS writteni miss these pics they take me back
>>740641612that's very cute. I'm glad some anons chose to IMAGINE for their etrian adventures like the developers originally intended
>>740641879It has more story because it had extra bits that aren't in the original (characters and whole extra dungeon.) Basically they just added more dialogue where there was already story in the original. Compared to most JRPGs story mode is still pretty thin on story.
why cant we ever use the npcs as party members, i wanna use this bitch on my team
>>740642425There's no milkmaid class.
>>740642425its unreal how much she talked shit in some of her quest dialogues
>>740640852>by giving it away in the opening cutsceneBecause everyone who played EO games know the twist, it's fucking the most known thing about series despite lost shinjuku being only in single game, are you like medically retarded? Killing forest folk for tourism money didn't fit future games in the series, so no wonder it was removed. I mean, no one complaiend about why it was changed when u1 was released, so it's really mystery why retards claim "it's a big problem" now. Really makes you think
>>740640852>they removed all nuance in the games storyAlso, it weren't "nuances", it was generic and standard story back in the day with generic and standard anime edge.I bet zoomers like you consider fft tactics story "nuanced" too
U1 classic is way funnier than og 1 even if I ultimately like bothU2 and OG2 are kinda interchangeable I guess, but I still think U2 is fun as fuck and I want to fuck Arianna
>>740642546>Because everyone who played EO games know the twistthe entire point of untold was to sell the series to a new audience, you dumb fucking bitch
>>740642546>Because everyone who played EORight, but the whole point of Untold was to draw in a new audience. They wanted the standard JRPG fans because waizardy autists are few and far between.
>>740642546most 3ds babs didn't even play the original and eo4 doesn't mention it at all and 5 is set on mars
>>7406424255 had town npc for first fights with super bossesNexus had npc accompanying you through dungeonsDunno what are you talking about>>740642627>>740642653And? Even people who don't play eo games knew about that twist, you clearly a zoomer if you don't know how well people were aware about it in early 10s.It's like trying to hide citizen kane "twist" while making version for modern audience, it would be stupid and everyone would know before movie even starts>bbbbut I don't care about quality, only my feelings should matter who cares about storytelling, my feeligns are the most improtant thingGo play some jrpg garbge like dungeon travelers or that auto batter that you tards tried to shill in eo threads, you don't belong here
>playing etriam for the storyIt is a problem at the end of the day, but U1 is still a solid remake.
>>740642823>most 3ds babs didn't knew about lost shinjukuWe reached the point, where zoomer tourists actually think that...
spooky superboss
I've never once made up back stories for my characters and I've been playing since 1 originally came out on DS. Of course it's autists that get mad and can't understand that people enjoy games for different reasons.
I did the ng+ cycles, all the sailing, all dragons, but the pitfalls in the last stratum broke me, i didn't mean to quit but I never got back to it and finish abyssal god, it eats away at me every day
>>740638807From what I understand, there's Studio 0, the Persona team, and then the "SMT" team or just the remainder of Atlus. Studio 0 is their own thing and they did Metaphor and wouldn't be doing anything EO related. Persona team is obviously doing all the Persona stuff and wouldn't touch EO. So that leaves the SMT team left and we currently don't know what they're doing. The last thing they did was the Raidou remake but that was a while ago so it's possible that we'll have something from them tomorrow. I'm hoping it's EO related but it might be more SMT stuff. Could be EO 6 or another "hd" version of one of the 3DS games. Our chances are probably extremely low overall but it's not impossible that EO could pop up tomorrow.
>>740642865EOU sucks as a jrpg and even though it's a great game on classic it was a bitch move to lock all the new content to story mode. EOU2 is pretty much what they should have done from the start. The characters are fleshed out, there's a ton of interactions especially with the cafe, and the story was easily made to fit in the original without changing much were as 1 really fuck up everything for a shittier twist. And you get nearly everything on classic mode outside of the protagonist class. But this is the game that did worse because it's when Atlus started become jews with higher priced games and shitty DLC
>>740604834Im bored and I got this pirated on my jailbroken 3ds gonna play it tonight
>>740642491
>before people blamed u2 poor sales on being released too close to ORAS(while ignoring that eo4 was released week apart from bw2)>in this thread they blame u2 shit sales on u1honestly, not sure which one is more retardedWhy can't they just admit that u2 was pretty meh game?
>>740643148pretty sure EO team is just the reserve team for any of those since PQ exists
>>740643335it can be all of these things anon
>>740643418I don't know exactly how the teams breakdown but there's a chunk of Atlus that currently is working on something that's not Persona or a Studio 0 project, I want to say I'm sure of that much.
>>740643335EO4 release when the 3DS had nogaems and BW2 were the worsr selling pokemon DS games weren't they? It's all about timing.
>>740641398We don't need untold versions of either game unless you just mean normal remakes without story mode.
>>740643676>I DON'T WAN'T ANOTHER UNTOLD GAME BECAUSE CLASSIC MODES UNLOCKED ALL CLASSES AND PEOPLE HAD SO MUCH FUN AND NEW FOES AND BOSSES ONLU HD REMAKES THEY ARE RIGHT CHOICENogo back to your shithole, dungeon travelers fagPeople love having all classes being unlockedPeople love seeing maps changed a little or even fully
>>740604834Should I bother playing the franchise in order? I have up to 4
>>740640081I don't think anybody hated Abyssal God more than Primevil.
>>740642861>>740643767Is this the new schizo narrative? Anyone who doesn't like story mode likes games that are entirely story?
>>740641612>ranmonkbest monk portrait
>>740643949>nooo you calling me retard because you think that I don't like story mode not because my takes are retarded and eo fanbase bullied me for decade in these threadslol
>>740642861He probably wants more NPCs becoming permanently playable units like the 3 in EO4.
>>740643926If you have the HD remasters of the first 3 games, it'll be incredibly hard to go back to 4 unless you have the speed toggle mod.
>>740643767What are you even talking about? I've never played dungeon travelers nor do I ever intend to. I'm against story mode because I'm strongly against fixed protagonists in the series. If they wanted to do normal remakes of 3/4 without story mode then that would be fine.
>>740644062Yeah, having classes with unique portraits was pretty cool, but no dialogues sucked.I personally prefer nexus way, because you could have npc in dungeons with them providing bonuses, but not taking part in battles.
>>740642546>I mean, no one complaiend about why it was changed when u1 was released, so it's really mystery why retards claim "it's a big problem" now.Quite a few people did complain though. The retarded story changes are a part of the reason why the old fanbase disnt buy U1. You have no idea what you're screeching about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU76ObF-zZ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksqucv6ft8The best song in Etrian history.
>>740643767The main audience doesnt want untold games, Atlus cancelled Untold 3 because everyone hated that idea.You're the outsider here.
>>740644326For me, it's the dungeon themeshttps://youtu.be/rz6vp5KSq3E?si=y5DOG8tuVRw8eDSZI remember Sakurai did a multiple choice poll for people to guess who does the music and sound for his game design videos. It was easily Yuzo Koshiro and I'm proud of getting that right
>>740644326Not even the best first battle theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZjnuS6ESc
>>740644396>Atlus cancelled Untold 3People said that because nexus had stratums and monsters from 3Yes, this is reason why people say that untold 3 was in development but was canceledThink about it for the second, before posting such stupid shit ever again as argument
Stop FIGHTINGThis is a comfy EO thread.
>>740644510>they didnt cancel U3! They just made Nexus which is much more in line with the original gamesSo you're saying the untold games are so hated they scrapped U3 and repurposed the assets into Nexus.Lmao. Get the fuck outta here with your outrage bait
>>740644669>reading comprehension
>>740644621i'm trying anon but people here REALLY prefer to ragebait and argue all day long
persona Q's post game boss is a yggdroid model elizabeth pulled from another reality, obvious teaser for untold 3, yet it never happened because it was a bad idea and that game had way more content gameplay/story wise then the other ds games so it would be a lot more work to remakehow do you make a character who is a defined entity but could side with either the city or the abyssal king? maybe something like you're a super advanced yggdroid that looks like people and lost your memories so you work as a fisher for armoroad? the framing of the game doesn't let them do the same "you're just a guy from somewhere else that wants to explore dungeon for reason, here's your backstory" the untold games did
>>740644715>still denying itYou cna stop retard. U3 was in development and scrapped. This is a known fact
favorite class?
>>740644882Dark Hunter or ShogunKaishaku
>>740644882sovereign (male)
>>740644882almost everyone from 4 and 5Classes in other games just not as fun
>>740644882The OG bloodstained derp smile
>>740644882Prince!
>>740644882Every class that has a loli/flat girl option is my favorite. Any class that doesn't have one may as well not exist to me.
>>740644941>>740645046oh?
>>740644808actually the main character would clearly be fafnir again but with amnesia
>>740644510Nexus also had Hoplite, Ninja and Zodiac NPCs who seem like they may have been repurposed from a scrapped storymode, and also Napier being the only town NPC who wasn't freshly made for Nexus. We don't know for certain that U3 was ever in development, but there's a lot of evidence that suggests it was.
>>740644820Really, post source from Atlus please then.
Why did they make the innkeeper so sexy?
>>740644808>they are making massive remake of first game because methaphor had entire dungeon referencing it, and if it's never released that means it was because hd collection sold badReminds me of people who spammed that EOV will be vita/pc game, because atlus took their time with revealing target platform and #fe and u2 sold like shit on nintendo consoles
is 2 worth playing after beating 1? or just go straight to 3?
>>740645240Go straight to 3. 2 is godawful
>>740644882Any class she shows up in.
>>740645240I liked OG 2 more than OG 1 at the end of the day
>>740645051it's a blessing that this series has so many flat options to choose from that your restriction wouldn't negatively impact the gameplay
>>740645240At the start of 2 I hated it. I eventually warmed up to it a little but you're probably better off skipping for now.
>>740645240mixed bag, if you want to love all the etrians then play through 2. if you want the greatest hits move onto 3. personally love 1 so I wouldn't skip
>>740645240Play 2. Just have a hexer and max poison and sleep asap, then you can run whatever else you want. Even without one, it's not the shit game everyone has been memed into thinking it is.
>>740645169You say that, but 3 is the only game that didn't had npc from it hanging out with you in dungeon... Oh wait, that was Napier just like Shilleka was representative of first game>Ninja and Zodiac NPCs It also had eo4 medic npc...and reaper npc...So 5 and 4 untolds were in development but scapped?
>>740645240All three are worth playing. I like 2 more than 1 actually but 3 is definitely the best out of all of them. You may want to take a short break before jumping into another one though if you just finished 1.
>>740645420Also hexer npc, totally forgot about him
>>740645101https://files.catbox.moe/1nlr6w.jpg
>>740645271Based brown appreciator. I never used to like her but somehow she grew on me and became my favourite portrait in 1.
>>740645420Or U3 was going to have some 4 and 5 classes, like how U2 has sovereign which is a class from 3You have to try a bit harder than this
>>740643931nobody really seethes about primevil, just maybe there's that initial shock of getting wiped but not even that is safe from medic
>>740645309It is but I'm worried about if 6 will have enough for me if it does happen. V was rather... scarce. I still enjoyed it but I had a much harder time making a party and had to make exceptions.
>>740645101No, the handsome one of course!
>>740604834Test
>>740645234anon, that's a boy
>>740645642yeah
>>740645642Out of 10!
>>740644882Hexer, Dancer, Arcanist, Necromancer
>>740644882 Alice of course
A reboot of EO would be cool, mostly because I like the original portraits the most. And let's just stick to basic classes and skills, none of this subclassing and racial skill bullshit.
>>740645420I'm not saying everything from Nexus is from a scrapped Untold, retard, just that the amount of stuff from 3 is interesting.
>>740645751Why would it need a reboot to achieve that? Each game is effectively a self-contained story, so new games can't really step on the toes of previous ones.
>>740645642no that's his sister
>>740645870>just that the amount of stuff from 3 is interesting.Not really, it's just 2 dungeons, if anything 3 underwater stratum is infamous in nexus for being the only stratum without mini dungeon.So if anything, 3 got less content there than any other eo game except 5(which didn't had it's stratums and only superbosses from it got in)
Reminder:>EO1 = Japan>EO2 = Russia>EO3 = scattered islands in SEA>EO4 = AustraliaEO5 = Mars
>>740646281>EO4 = AustraliaExplain this.
>>740646281The english version of etrian 5 completely ruined that and no one ever complained or fixed it cause its such a niche series lmao
>>740646281>Australia>baobabs forestNo>EO2 = RussiaMore like Germany
>>740644882
>>740646671>greatest tank of her time and everyone thought it's impossible to design tank class in eo game to be more fun and satisfying>Dragoon and hero right afterThat was unfair, fortress deserves untold game just to shine once again
>>740646789How do I build Fortress-chan to make her fun? I usually just swap her out for an Imperial once I get those.
>>740646408>>740646418Given the locations of 1 and 3 and the fact 4 introduces kangaroos as its first big challenge in the game, as well as their first appearance in the series, it's safe to assume it's Australia.>>740646418High Lagaard is said to be 'far to the North.'
>>740646789She is still the best tank. She's not 'fun' but she's the best at what she does: tanking hits for the party. Dragoon is more interesting but of course was made after Fortress.>>740646789If it makes you feel better, Protector in Nexus is literally just Fortress with a different name.
>>740646890>How do I build Fortress-chan to make her fun?You don't unless you want to turn her into a dodge tank with dancer sub.
>>740646928first stratum makes it clear that game takes place in africa>>740647040>Protector in Nexus is literally just Fortress with a different name.Nah, protector got some skills from fortress and dragoon(flare shield), but fortress had a lot of attack focused skills like volt strikes and healing through attacks
>>740647295>africaLiterally nothing supporting this.
>>740646890since you apparently want to turn your fortress into a damage dealer you could try bushi/fortress
>>740647323>Monkey enemies, game that introduced baboons to the series>first map being savanna>first stratum being baobab forest
>>740647295>first stratum makes it clear that game takes place in africaIf you're judging it based on the plantlife, then EO1 doesn't take place at Shinjuku since stratum 2 is full of stuff not native to Japan.
>>740647496>Monkey enemies,Okay.>savannaIt's not.>baobabTrees native to Australia.
>>740647649>Australia>native treesThey literally burned all their forests
Have you done anything in eo games, that you felt genuine pride for?I remember beating first nexus stratum boss(plant beast) without running out of tp for the first time this year.That was cool
>>740646281High Laggard is Scotland, it’s the native territory of Highlanders and neighbours Caledonia.
>>740648148Killed Blizzard King in OG 2 with curse damage
>>740646789Dragoon is a damage class that pretends to tank sometimesHaha artillery prep goes brrrrrr
>>740648148My farmer dealt the killing blow against Ketos when 3/5 of my party was dead in my first EO3 playthrough.It was 4 damage.
>tfw series is dead and you will never hoist the sword with pride in your heart or have faith as your pillar, ever again
>>740648148i beat warped savior with a four person party and no instant win strats, i guess thats not that cool lol but i've had to cheat against every other superboss in some way so having an actual fair fight for once and without a full party was fun. people say star devourer is fair too but idk how, he would wipe my party without me getting to do much on both by eo5 playthroughs. maybe i just had shit teams lmao
>>740648574Star Devourer is mainly "Do you have AOE damage or not?"
>>740648479Today's the day, just believe
>>740648148clearing 1's postgame for sure, then for minmaxing out a perfectly useless ronin
>>740605204Too bad you need to patch the game to unlock story mode classes.
>>740648157Look at these true Scotsmen.
>>740649134>when the game originally came out i looked like bottom right>now i look like bottom lefthuh
>>740649134>2U/Nexus version of older male gunnerTrash.OG 2 and HD 2 version is superior.
>>740640329>I made separate teams for that. And kept those teams even with their exp.Liar.
>>740641535You're a mega retard. NG+ takes like 2 hours tops.
>>7406462813 is entirely disconnected from the rest of the series.
>>7406497713 has a salad, ronin, and sexer
>>740649825>dude final fantasy 5 has chocobos it must be in the same world as 4
>>740649771explain how
>>7406497711-4 are absolutely not disconnected. An npc in 3 even references High Lagaard.
Anyone done some interesting challenge runs? I'm tempted to try some restricted or unconventional teams
>>740649134What part of “Caledonia” did you not get?
>>7406501495 Yggers
>>740650149the most fun one i think is starting etrian 4 with just a duo and adding the story npcs as you get them, so you only get a full party by the end
>>740649825Where's the Hexer in 3?
>>740650053The origin for Yggdrasil is completely different.
>>740650461the idea of progressively adding on new party members is really cool, you could write up yourself a little story and carry that through any of the EO games
>>740650491Postgame sidequest for the red dragon with the ronin at the same time.
>>740650491you meet them when you're doing one of the post game dragons
>>740650541That just means the EO3 Yggdrasil simply wasn't part of the Yggdrasil Project. It's still on post-apocalyptic Earth especially since the island names on the sea map are real like Ayuthaya
>>740650849That'd be retarded.
I just miss Himukai's art
>>740651370For-chan's gf is welcome wherever For-chan goes.
>>740651449wrong fencer is a fucking alien
There was literally 0 reason to not include fencer in the Nexus, especially because game lacking in tanks
>>740651846>
>>740651370>1 support>2 damage>2 tanksIt's a shame you can't make a proper team with just the blonde mascot girls.
>>740651991You have 5 in nexus, lolihero is blonde
>>740651695He means duckface.
>>740651846Fencers are not supposed to be tanks no matter how much you want them to be.
>>740648148Just killing Warped Savior without weakening it at all in EO4.And surviving a triple Iron Crab Ambush in EOU1 SOMEHOW.Getting hit by 3 party wide Scissor Wraths is no joke.
Have you guys in EO4 ever fucked up enough to get hit by Trigourd Tune?
>>740652579No. They died too fast for 3 three of them to activate it thanks to my team's elemental links.
>>740652579Yeah, Hall of Darkness kicked my ass in general.
>>740652579Yes, I experienced most of shit from 5th stratum travel through old ones and hall of darkness
P6 is next stageYou must believe
>>740652779Bringing eo6 with 4hd port would be stupid.But do we need 4 port that doesn't have bushi as starting class?
>>740648148Once I was bored and decided that soloing wyvern with an alchemist was a good idea in EOU1, turns out you can stack up your volt resistance to 100% and light formula all physical attacks you are actually invincible in many fights as a solo alchemist, you can beat up storm emperor, many shiny FOEs it's just a good time all around.I also figured out how to reliably roll grimoires as all of the available information on the internet is worthless. Did you know that heal mastery actually improves the regen cordial from Rosa? Now you know.
>>740650149I ran eo1 with only these three (the game was originally only going to have 3 party members, which is why this is the only boxart to have 3 guys instead of 5)it honestly wasn't that much of a challenge run outside of early game hell being a bit more annoying, protector and medic just kind of killed everyone while alchemist cheesed random battles and foes, you get exp noticeably faster so it mostly levels out
>>740653414Why does Mediko wear sock armour?
Lately I have been playing EO2 HD as my first EO.It's OK.
>>740654267Each labyrinth representing different season was a nice idea
>>740654495just achieved the 3rd Stratum, the Ice one.I enjoy the grinding
How would you honestly rate first stratum designs?Emerald Grove is nice, but compared to others it feels too generic?Ancient forest was great, but Waterfall wood is amazing, while Lush woodlands is pretty fucking nice and memorable too.Tutelary Forest was a step back compared to previous 3 games, but I guess it could be placed above Emerald Grove?
>>740654790Waterfall woods has the best setting, but i dislike the wall tiling. The longer you look at it the worse it gets.Tutelary Forest is good. I particularly like that they included non-FOE puzzles (the statues) in a first stratum. It makes it more interesting compared to others.
>>740651884
>>740652779>implying it isn't some SMTIVA Dagda shit given the obvious references
>>7406048343 was nice. 4 was nice too.
>>740656764I thought that 4 was the worst?
>>740654790Lush > Waterfall > Tutelary > Emerald > Ancient
>if you want to use yggdroid, you need a small party>if you want to use ninja, you need a small partyThank god future games didn't had that shit
>>740657162>didn't had that shitThird world detected
>>740656817nah 4 is 3 but better. flying minigame are on the place, but jobs are better, levels are fun, visuals are good.5 was where the series got boring. 5 was boring, retold 1 was boring, and i haven't played after this.
>>7406568174 is giga boring, too easy and subclassing got nerfed to shit despite the classes themselves just being the eo1 classes again but a little different
>>7406574404 is enjoyable but it's got the shortest dungeon while being the easiest game in the series, I don't see what it does better than 3
>>740657440u1 and 2 came before 5
>>740657162optimal yggdroid maybe but on ninja you can just use literally anything except the "blow up all the clones" move which is barely better then other ways to do damage using shadow clones anyway, like attaching them to a class that does real damage
>>740656817No, it's the best one. Personal preferences aside, it's at least generally considered top 3.
>Played the first three games, loved them and 3 remains one of my fav games ever>Played the fourth game, thought it was okay and can see all the good aspects of the game but it just never 'clicked' with me and I sort of dropped it at the library dungeon and haven't gone back>Jumped to the fifth game, played it very on-and-off, made it only to 5F and haven't touched the game in monthsI don't know what it is about the 3ds games but they just don't click with me, am I just missing something about them? Maybe it's because I like the more unorthodox settings like the fifth stratum of 1 and pretty much all of 3
>>740657546>classes themselves just being the eo1 classes again but a little differentOnly remotely similar class was sniper, and he was way better and more fun.>bind chase>skills that can crit>ignoring defence
>>740657720>e 3ds games but they just don't click with me,5 was super boring, classes from start are very bad, you are not doing any damage, FOEs or something, i can't remember now. no fun minigame, no fun anythingit is like you playing most basic generic game ever, without any fun stuff. like etrian odyssey 1, not 5.
>>740657897>FOEs or something,less FOEs*
>>740657720How anything about untamed garden was "orthodox"?I think you just hated how starting with 4, you couldn't autobattle every random encounter, because atlus put effort into making combinations of monsters that could fuck you over, after 3 was criticized for monsters not requiring effort.Or just because you couldn't level and abuse strongest class skills in first stratums, and was forced to go through skill trees>>740657897>classes from start are very badWeird opinionBest mage classBest "archer"harbringer is super fun(only downside was separate skills for auto armor)Necromancer and explosionsFucking dragoonBest katana class
>>7406448820 aoe survived0 damage dealt7 fallen ones murdered with basic attack
>>740658080sticc
>>740657720>>740657897For 5, it feels like shit having classes gimped for a good portion of the game and instead of unlocking subclassing, you unlock a specialization that finally makes the class feel complete. It was a really shitty way to try give it a sense of progress.
>>740608343Biggest issue with Untold 1 is that the difficulty curve expects you to do the side dungeon, so if you're playing classic they're will be a few points points where you'll suddenly get slammed with a massive difficulty spike.It's also impossible to 100% without story mode since the story exclusive content counts towards that.
>>740657720I feel that both of them are pretty mid and safe until about the third stratum but I did like 5 in the end
>>740658108You're goddamn right.
>>740658207Shame the optional NPC party members' portraits aren't available in Nexus.
How are those Galleria games compared to EO?
>>740658402For people who prefer first 3 eo games over 3ds ones.Classes are not fun and gameplay can be very boring, but it has "le edgy" storywritting and "narrative depth" of eo1 and eo3.
>>740657996>How anything about untamed garden was "orthodox"?Did you miss the part where I said I only went up to 5F>Or just because you couldn't level and abuse strongest class skills in first stratumsNot really, I don't look up what classes are the best beforehand so always end up with parties that probably aren't optimal at all; I didn't know about the immunise quirk in 1 and probably wasted a bunch of skill points in 2 on the various stat increase options
>>740658402Story is incredible in both, but the combat is mostly generic blobber fare with a huge party and lots of time spent on gearing. Exploration is great, especially the varied dungeons of the first game. Unfortunately they ran out of time/budget for the second, but it's still a good time.
>>740658402no resemblance outside of being blobberscombat and party building is basically just picking which generic spells to use and trying to auto it, never really clicked with megets extremely grindy in post
Ideal Etrian:>full size stratums (5 floors)>at least 6 main stratums>all classes unlocked from the start>at least 12 classes>no Grimoires>2U's cooking system>4's overworld flying system>4's side dungeons>5's class 'Mastery' system instead of sub-classing>5's dedicated Summon row>Nexus' character customization (any portraits, colors, etc)
>>740658982>>5's class 'Mastery' system instead of sub-classingJump off the nearest bridge
>>740659010After you.
>>740658982>4's overworld flying system>5's class 'Mastery' system instead of sub-classing
>>740658982Do we really need flying when we can just use nexus world map/sub dungeon system instead?
>>740659068Nexus' map being a menu was lame as fuck. Actually having to travel manually, get into fights, discover locations and treasure was cool.
3 hours and 40 minutes...
>>740658982I like specializations, but there's no fun of looking for unique synergies and interactions if they're intended by the devs.V barely gave you the opportunity to break out of your intended shells, even weapon skills were for the most part mediocre at best... Except for one.but they put it at the end of the bonus stratum >:(
clearly we need both mastery and subs
clearly we need a world map with on foot, ship and airship exploration
>>740660730>Nexus got retarded and introduce a giant sky ship literally carrying a full-sized city on itFuck it, give me a transforming vessel that can go carriage-ship-zepplin for all-purpose exploration.
>>740615570I'm kind of the opposite where I hate having everyone equal, cause it doesn't make sense for everyone to grow at the same rate all the time. Thankfully I suck and get people killed a lot so I don't have to put up with the symmetry for too long
>monk teasing you every time you boot up the game
>>740662071HORY SHIT
>>740614875Not a homo, sorry.>>740615570Based.
So, a he or a she?
>>740663134it's whatever you want it to be
>>740663134Sexo.
le milenom girl
>>740614875I mean they are dead? That's kinda the point of labyrinth
>>740663134he-ho
>>740658402Gameplay-wise, they're trash.Story-wise, they're edgy ala Nippon Ichi in comparison.The "units" you "recruit" are just dolls so headcanoning stories for them is weird since you effectively have to destroy them to power them up. Frequently.
>>740663134This is one of the few good portraits in the HD remasters.
>>740663134She's female with the shoulder length hair and the same outfit as the other female gunners
>>740664420>Dark Hunter>Landsknecht>Protector>Gunner>Beast>Buccaneer>Gladiator>Shogun>Sovereign>YggdroidAll great.
Why do I absolutely love the Labyrinth of games but cant get into EO at all?
>>740664906Do you want the honest answer or the sugarcoated answer?
>>740664906Different types of games.EO is about fun and deadly adventures after third gameLabyrinth is standard vn with pseudo gameplay
>>740664435>shoulder length hairmales exist with that or even longer hair like picrel>same outfit as the other female gunnersit's technically just the jacket part since you can clearly see the poofy pants
>>740664924Whatevers fine. I know you're probably going to call me a casual tourist larper or whatever anyway.
>>740664906you like plot and tits
>>740665014You probably enjoy story more than gameplay.
>>740665054If that were true I would have liked Dungeon Travelers and Moe Chrystal. Theres something about Refrain and Galleria thats just different.
>>740665370you like plot, tits, and decent artstyle
>>740658982>>740659046Second names are the stupidest fucking mechanic because it's just level gating a third of a normal class's skill tree, and then making the other third mutually exclusiveI get not wanting subclasses but come the fuck on
>>740665683>EO3Each class has 18 skills.>EO5Each class has 20 skills with their chosen Mastery, 30 total>EOXEach class has 24 skills
>>740665683It gives you reason to have same classes in the party but with different builds4 already tried it, with each class ahving actually different trees, but second names was next logical step
>>740666040Actually, 23 for EOX, I forgot to not count the Mine/Chop/Take option as a skill.
>>740657546>subclassing got nerfed>skills are frontloaded with basically all of them peaking by the halfway markLmao
>>740666040And EO4 has 20 skills per class, not counting Proficiency passives or Mine/Chop/Take/Cooking passives.
unlockable classes are ok to me just maybe give an option to not have to start from level 1
>>740666040Fair, but it still doesn't feel very good to me, I wouldn't mind another attempt at the system but not 1:1 as it was in 5>>740666091>with each class having actually different trees4 did not introduce this, made most "trees" just a straight line, and also had level gating for no reason
>>7406664234 kind of tried to get around to alleviating that with the exp scrolls.1 has no excuse other than being the first game in the series.2 has it be available after the first stratum, so it's easy to catch up.3 however.
stop praising 4
keep praising 4
>>740666531EO4 trees are slightly less linear than its predecessors, with more active skills. For example: EO4 Landsknecht 14 non-passive skills vs EO3 Buccaneer 12 non-passive skills. Also EO4 skills/passives take less investment to get to new skills/passives and less bullshit in between. Look at Bucc's Pincushion skill, the skill the essentially makes them viable: it takes 10 points in Rapier Mastery and 10 points in Gun Mastery to unlock but they can't dual wield guns and rapiers, so 10 of those points are completely fucking useless.
I've never finished an Etrian Odyssey game outside of the first one, everytime I get to the last stratum I'm so fucking bored I just quit, and don't even get me started about class balance because half the game is feeling fucked because you picked the wrong skill
>>740667554>and don't even get me started about class balance because half the game is feeling fucked because you picked the wrong skillThis is a huge problem with 1-3. 4-Nexus definitely did a better job to alleviate this. Coincidentally, this is the biggest reason people claim the 3DS games are 'easier'. Technically true, but by virtue of the designers not maliciously making certain classes or skills intentionally bad.
>>740604834>final superboss without using a meme strategy.Bullshit, that boss is literally impossible without a spreadsheet
>>740667330On top of that, the Rapier/Gun Mastery passives only increase Rapier/Gun damage by an earth-shattering 11%. Every single EO3 class has these 'X Mastery' skills that increase damage by 11% and they're required to unlock the skills under them. Oh, and they only increase basic attack damage, not skill damage, because fuck you.
Even got the JP stream open today but I really doubt anything is happening.
I just want a fan translation of EMD2 for my Wendy-chan
>>740667860I killed it via trial and error with blocking its elemental AOEs in phase 1.Phase 2 was just simply killing it with exploiting priority during the def/counter stance and unloading everything in the atk stance.
>>740668308>holding 7 jugsImpressive.
It's happening
>>740667684>not maliciously making certain classes or skills intentionally badNexus Pugilist bros...
>>740604834I've been developing the Etrian itch again but I'm in a bit of a rough spot>1HD is done aside from Primeval and 100% grind>Hard stuck on Shin in 3HD, I think my team just sucks ass and does too little damage>3DS's touch screen is broken and I'm too cowardly to attempt the repair and too poor at the moment to try to buy a better oneThis leaves me with 2HD (and Mystery Dungeon I guess), which I hear pretty mixed things about.Also Zodi a cute.
we already have fatlus's roadmap. p4r is their next major release and they're spending 8 months marketing it. don't set yourself up for disappointment (again).
>>740668709They probably got pissed off that it was mogging everything in 5 to the point that it was completely possible to do enough damage to Star Devourer to kill it in one shot (with prep) for cheese clears.
>>740668830they teased P4R in the middle of Raidoumakes' time they don't give a fuck
>>740658402I never played the first one I enjoyed Labyrinth of Galleria a fucking LOT. Specially the 1st act.The 2nd act is weird and not in a good way.Definitely give a try, I had a lot of fun with the 1st act.Story is very edgy>>740664331>Gameplay-wise, they're trash.????????????? WHATLabyrinth of Galleria is not that trash at all.Etrian Odyssey team could inspire itself a lot from the 1st act of Labyrinth of Galleria.
>>740669008>Etrian Odyssey team could inspire itself a lot from the 1st act of Labyrinth of Galleria.
>>740614875they become tree fertilizer, that's the actual lore
>>740668784>Hard stuck on Shin>I think my team just sucks ass and does too little damageShin is the easier boss compared to the other route to the point of feeling like a joke, so yeah you might need to change your team and skill setups.2HD is still a solid entry despite some of its weird design choices. If you're having a problem with FOEs not giving exp, then players found a different "exploit" of sorts by just frequently killing stratum bosses instead with sleeping 14 days in the inn to respawn them.You're missing out on god mode Hexer and why it's a beloved class if you continue skipping it.
>>740667860My key to victory was confusing the Abyssal God with an elephant, unloading all of my debuffs and having my Buccaneer click Pincushion
>>740669151I had a lot fun crawling in the dungeon, breaking walls and whatever else
>>740669251>RNG decides to only proc 1 hit instead of 3
>>740669206Not him but I'm really not a fan of EO2 but yes, EO2 Hexer is one of the best things in the series.
>>740668784Just buy another 3ds while you stil lcan do it easy
PRAY WITH MEETRIAN ODYSSEY: NEXT STAGE ANNOUNCED TODAY
>>740669587TAKE MY WAR POWER
>>740669587>not sleepymasterOne job.
>>740669587I hope 4HD, but with all classes unlocked from the start
Etrian Odyssey 6
>>740668784>and Mystery Dungeon I guessNever play EMD and EMD2. They are trash and EMD2 is actually worse than the first one if that was even possible.
>>740669683Sleepy is for pessimistic posting.
damn I took a nap and missed the start
Replayed untold games like 5 times each but can't get started on 4 5 or nexus, what is my problem?
>>740669818The actual stream starts in 5min.
>>740669786That's part of the gap moe.>>740669697That would be for the nonexistent Untold. The HD Remasters were consistent with the original versions considering how the unlockable classes in 1 and 2 were treated.
>>7406698914 is too easy and barren and lacks speed toggle without mods.5 plays it too safe.Nexus is too long and clogged up with fucking shrines.
>>740669587I want to play EO5HD on my PCEO6 on PC would be kino too
>>740608016Dancer is a buff class, I dual classed mine to nightseeker for dual wielding, that plus sword dance was amazing to trigger chases from my landy.I haven't played nightseeker but I've heard poison is amazing in 4
Our time is now, etriams.
>>740670271Maxed Venom Throw deals 700 damage per tic.Add that with Auto-Spread proccing at the start of battle and you can Venom Throw on all targets.
Still playing through OG Etrian Odyssey 1 via my emulator in bed mapping dungeons with my trackball mouse, on the 4th stratum and thoroughly enjoying myself.Really looking forward to playing future titles in chronological release order. Lover how nasty the devs get with FOE placement and trapping you to try to end you, brings me back to playing dungeon crawls in college via TTRPG systems.
>>740670056EO4HD please. EO5 is fairly complete QoL wise and still very playable.
>>740608016Do not use dancer as buff classShe can attack 14 times per turn with basic attack while dual wielding, + she has chase others dance and others chase her attacks dance
>>740644882Bushi into nightseeker, good element coverage, no setup for his damage so he can go all out while exploring and can easily fills his TP attacking a couple times.He falls behind during bosses compared to landy and others but he makes exploring a breeze.
>>740670418How is their luck?I remember dropping my sniper because they couldn't land shit and the arcanist that replaced him wasn't much better but I loved her passive healing
>>740672310Subbing Arcanist into a NS raises proc rates drastically thanks to the Arc's passive for boosted ailment rates. I land it more than 90% of the time.
i'm not feeling so good bros...
KEEP HOPE ALIVE
>shovelware and DLCGrim. EO isn't some big reveal they would save for later.
>they're actually wasting time on fucking thumb wrestling
>>740676295Probably because there's nothing else of note and trying to drag out the show other than the "BIG SURPRISE"
Sounds like I haven't missed anything, even aside from EO. Just like always haha
>>740676932Tragically useful pic there
>>740676932WHAT YHR FUCK 2HU!?
It's orge. I know we meme this after every direct but this truly might be the end.
I saw the sprout and was immediately disappointed after that ugly dog thing popped up.
fuck you
>busy porting Metaphor Never stood a chance
Kill me, please, I want to die.
>>740680205no thanks mr muffin
It'S SO OVER
Sigh....
I knew we'd get nothing. 0.1% chance at best.But it still hurts to see nothing. Just a single-sentence pr statement>yes we're working on itwould be better. Hell a cancellation notice would be better at this point.
If you genuinely thought they were giving etrian odyssey ANYTHING you're crazy also the HD remakes are dogshit.
Hey now, there's always NEXT time
Its been 8 years since the next stage trailer my friendsyou have to let goI have.
>>740681867In your heart you didn't and you know it. Otherwise you wouldn't be here.
This is atlus we are talking aboutEnjoy your remaster of 1 with even more millennium girl
>>740682525they remastered 1 with no Untold content at all already
>>740682761Which is why Untold remaster is next :)
Just remember, Sega said that a bunch of overpriced DS roms underperformed. If anything it's them.
I believed...
>>740682525I thought sega basically owned at this point? I think everything I hate about atlus can be traced back to sega I fucking hate sega.
Six more months until the 20th anniversary!!! Surely we'll get something then! We are so back!!!
>>740683630Hahahahaha Atlus has been doing re-releases long before Segay got them. And it's clear they even encourage them.
When did Sega buy Atlus again? I'm curious what I can look back on and blame them for without solid proof>>740683847>20 yearsno...
>>740684186>When did Sega buy Atlus again?Untold 2 had a gorillion dlcs for a reason.
