Rose with a rose>how does she compare to existing castlevania heroines like shanoa charlotte carrie sypha and maria?>is the fallen leon?>will trevor get the joel treatment?>is jean d'arc a pure christian heroine and just got brainwashed or is she gonna be subverted bc evil zealot nationalist according to modern writers? role of the church in this game?>how will they justify castlevania showing up in frogland?>why do the japs get a cover that is superior in every way?>will grant get recognized in any form?>will they respect the lore and leave alucard in his coffin?>why did the evil empire japanese employee say this is a reboot if it takes place after curse of darkness?>and other questions to be answered on october
it astounds me people care about "castlevania lore" because it's practically the same as super mario. bowser is back. mario has to stop him. dracula is back. john/jimmy/james/johan belmont has to stop him.
>>740605217stay in your lane, zoomie. this is a series for gamers with lower back pain.
>>740605217People care about He-Man and Thomas the Tank Engine lore, so people obsessing over Gothic pulp action games is hardly surprising
>>740605065sexy beauty ginger ooooooooo
>>740605065>how does she compare to existing castlevania heroines like shanoa charlotte carrie sypha and maria?She already had a GameBoy game. not digging the redesign at all. Not terrible but the worst of them all.The whole thing about Joan D'arc being a boss working for Dracula is retarded and we'll see how they destroy the plot, the series and France.
>>740605514Rose is not Sonia
>>740605217because it took decades to put the lore in order, starting with bloodlines and then igarashi's work, it would be a shame to trash all that effort.the latest cv games had full-fledged stories and deep lore implications, they weren't just "caius belmont goes to the castle and kills dracula".also i think you underestimate how the lore amplifies the enjoyment you can get from this series, idk about mario but alucard solemnly going to sleep until sotn due to the guilt of having killed his father makes the game better. on the contrary alucard having a threesome (netflix) diminishes the enjoyment and everyone fucking hated it, why?
>>740605962>the latest cv gamesThat was over 15 years ago now, if we aren't counting the Lords of Shadow games or Haunted Castle revisited
>>740606383why would i count lords of shadow and haunted castle that lasts 20 minutesgrimoire of souls also had 1 billion lines of dialogue
>>740606954Lords of Shadow was a different continuity and had different lore to the mainline Castlevania franchise and Haunted Castle was a remaster of a 1989 Arcade game, so it equally didn't have much lore in it
>>740607281yes, i'm saying they don't matter. the last new mainline title was order of ecclesia and we would have had more games like that but for the 3DS if konami wasn't retarded and didn't bet everything on mobile and pachinko
>>740605065Why does she look like some shitty anime art a kid in highschool would draw? Do real artists no longer exist?
>>740605514>and FranceFrance is able of destoying itself without the help of any game.
>>740607784The key art was nice at least
>>740608127the jp cover too
>>740608127I've always loved his art. But I honestly like >>740608497, and even >>740605065 too. I want to see more of her, but Rose seems like a cutie. So I hope her personality isn't that of a cunt.
I started playing the Curse of the Moon games. They are pretty okay so far. In NES CV part of the strategies is finding the right subweapon to make certain difficult blocks and bosses much easier. But in this game the correct sub weapon is always given to you at the start of the block. Giant bats hanging from the ceiling up ahead but before you cross, there is a candle with a vertical 3 way knife throw. Giant armored knight below you, another candle in front of you has a burning water to throw from above and delete him without risk. Doesn't feel like I have to think much in this one. It still a bit challenging and fun but I expected more after all the praise.
>>740610791The game has more to offer. So keep playing.
>>740605065>is the fallen leon?At this point I wouldn't doubt it, and I hope they get David Wittenberg to voice him.I hope Leon ends up as a bonus playable character. Leon Mode would be so cool.
>>740605217So fucking cringe. Worse than Fanfic shippers are the niggers who delve into the lore of these games which have always been about vibes. "bro, what if u fought the Universal monsters as Schwarzenegger-Indiana-Jones." Get the fuck outta here.
>>740612338Fan art already, that was rather quick
>>740612235>>>"bro, what if u fought the Universal monsters as Schwarzenegger-Indiana-Jones." Get the fuck outta here.>bro what if alucard got fucked in the ass by an asian twink or hector was subdued by a hot redhead vampire!or what if maria was a feminist patricide!! the only important thing is COMBAT lore isn't important!!
>>740605065The only connection to France is that the Netflix show says Leon Belmont was originally a French knight. The games never specify any particular European country. Might be relevant as a minor detail that’s been rolled into the main canon.
>>740612608What you have written is not English, nigger-troon-3k. Log off and go back to AO3.
>>740605217There is a bit more to it than what Mario is doing since all the CV games are in one connected universe and history We have a clear start of the timeline and an ending, which is more than what Mario lore has given us
>>740605065Holy shit she's cute
>>740612780And the fact that the developers explicitly said it's set in France
>>740605065It really looks like she has freckles in this one illustration
>>740605327>>740605962>>740612235>>740614575>>740607726NTA but why should I care about le heckin lore like a redditor?Castlevania Legends and 64 are pretty gud despite being "not canon", as if it changes everything when it comes to the games' own merit.
I really want to play this game on release. So I guess I'll need to get it on PC. But I really would prefer to have it on my Switch, and it's where I've got all the other games of the genre. But I am not rich enough to willy nilly repurchase games that I've already own. And then of course, it'll release late on the Switch, sell poorly because everyone bought the game on the platforms it was available on at launch. And then they'll consider the Switch a weak platform and get none of the future Castlevania games made. Of course.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2749920/The_Transylvania_Adventure_of_Simon_Quest/Demo June 18. I am a lot more hyped for this.
>>740616251Castlevania Legends and 64 aren't "not canon", they are set in different timelines.I wouldn't want Gabriel to be raped by Netflix, either.The source material needs to be respected, period. I don't care about being called a redditor, this is a japanese franchise with christian roots/iconography and actual values (good vs evil, no "everyone is some shade of gray" bs) and westerners have no right to subvert it
>>740612780Japan never has the best understanding of European geography, so they probably couldn't specifically locate where all the Castlevania games took place
I'm more hyped for Bloodstained than I am this. This just feels like another indie metroidvania where as Bloodstained feels like an actual Castlevania game.
>>740605962>because it took decades to put the lore in order, starting with bloodlines and then igarashi's work, it would be a shame to trash all that effort.Castlevania never had a "real" continuation; it was always a blockbuster movie: the vidya since day 1, the first and third game's intro, alongside Rondo of Blood's art style, should be obvious. The series was always unorthodox when it came to its continuity, and that's the point.>the latest cv games had full-fledged stories and deep lore implicationsThe only real "deep lore implications" were Dracula having another woman in his life (which by itself opens a can of worms in your stories); otherwise, it has the same weight as Kirby lore, and I don't think that it's a good thing either.>i think you underestimate how the lore amplifies the enjoyment you can get from this seriesThe most important part in stories and video games in general is their execution; the "lore" means jack shit if the writing/gameplay sucks ass. And even then, it doesn't really matter because Castlevania is not Warhammer; it's its own beast.>alucard having a threesome (netflix) diminishes the enjoyment and everyone fucking hated it, why?Because it was poorly written shit by an indian artist, normalfags will eat it up if it was, you know, good.
>>740617629I'm more hyped for Belmont's Curse but at the same time I know that I will like The Scarlet Engagement more.
>>740617820Doesn't help that I also really don't like Dead Cells
>>740617862Did you try their Prince of Persia game?
>>740617009>Castlevania Legends and 64 aren't "not canon", they are set in different timelines.Canon means "correlation", if those games does not have a connection to each other, then the events from these games never happened, therefore it's not canon. >I wouldn't want Gabriel to be raped by Netflix, either.What are you talking about?>The source material needs to be respected, period, this is a japanese franchise with christian roots/iconography and actual values (good vs evil, no "everyone is some shade of gray" bs) and westerners have no right to subvert itLMAO it tried to have "some shades of gray" since SoTH, that game made Dracula sympathetic. This statement by itself just sounds unhinged too, you're a larper.Also>I don't care about being called a redditor, Now you made it easier for me to say that you should kill yourself.
>>740617820Same.
I will play for she
>>740617715>Castlevania never had a "real" continuation; it was always a blockbuster movie: the vidya since day 1That hasn't been true for 32 years. Even before Igarashi got involved, the internal documents (the Bloodlines fax and the ones released in the Anniversary collection) show how much effort the devs were putting into the story, world building, everything. It's just how Konami operates, even in Yugioh they'll refrain from making new cards for an archetype if they don't fit in the lore of that specific deck.This is a series about legacy and bloodlines, it's not anymore about Simon going to slay the evil count. It's not just that. Dracula even fucked off permanently.Read this interview about Aria for example https://shmuplations.com/ariaofsorrow/>>740618015>Canon means "correlation", if those games does not have a connection to each other, then the events from these games never happened, therefore it's not canon. There is more than one single castlevania canon/continuity>What are you talking about?I'm talking about the hypothetical scenario in which they make an adaptation about Lords of Shadow (or CV64) for example and they rape the fuck out of it.>LMAO it tried to have "some shades of gray" since SoTH, that game made Dracula sympathetic. Giving him depth and a backstory doesn't make Dracula any less evil ahah how can you seriously compare that with what happened in Netflix? >Now you made it easier for me to say that you should kill yourself.Same
>>740605217Because in Castlevania, Christ is king and you are doing his work
>>740619838>do not repost to other sitesnever understand why people do this
>>740605065At this point this looks so bad in every way that I'd rather it had stayed dead. This game looks like a turd.>>740605217If you haven't played the games just say so.>>740619126>how can you seriously compare that with what happened in Netflix? They're clearly a tourist.
>>740619126>That hasn't been true for 32 years. Even before Igarashi got involved, the internal documents (the Bloodlines fax and the ones released in the Anniversary collection) show how much effort the devs were putting into the story, world building, everything. It's just how Konami operates, even in Yugioh they'll refrain from making new cards for an archetype if they don't fit in the lore of that specific deck.Having to come up with a good story to tell doesn't automatically give the series deep lore. Again, the only lore that's deep is Dracula's origin; most of the time its lore is as deep as Kirby's, but unlike that, CV managed to make it more "cohesive" thanks to Iga, but that doesn't nullify the argument about what the CV "lore" was before.>This is a series about legacy and bloodlines, it's not anymore about Simon going to slay the evil count.Missing the point.
>>740605217FPBP. Only secondaries disagree. They can claim to be fans of Castlevania, but they're fans for the wrong reasons.
I made up my own entirely fanfiction lore and A.I. slop artwork for new games and characters that only counts the original three NES games as canon.
If The Fallen ends up being Leon Belmont, wouldn't it be cool if his boss theme was a Blood Relations style remix of Lament of Innocence?
>>740619126>There is more than one single castlevania canon/continuityWe're talking about the mainline entires. Moving the goalpost.>I'm talking about the hypothetical scenarioEven then it's all irrelevant since I wasn't talking about jewflix, again moving the goalpost.>Giving him depth and a backstory doesn't make Dracula any less evil ahah how can you seriously compare that with what happened in Netflix?Nice try, I was insinuating that he had any good in him (especially in the ending of the game) rather than some mustache dwelling villain, I was never comparing him to it's cartoon adaptation.>>740620593The best part about this is they call everyone who doesn't care about the lore is a secondary like this worthless piece of meat >>740620026
>>740620838I didn't call you a secondary, I called you a tourist. All you do is regurgitate opinions, you have no independent thought. No self-respecting (or franchise-respecting) fan of Castlevania is excited for this garbage.
>>740620438I never said that the lore is deep. It exists and needs to be safeguarded because it helps creating a barrier between "castlevania" and "not castlevania" (netflixvania)
>>740620838I never moved the goalpostIt is you who don't understand my previous posts and why I care about the lore so much>Nice try, I was insinuating that he had any good in him (especially in the ending of the game) rather than some mustache dwelling villain, I was never comparing him to it's cartoon adaptation.Nope you were saying something wrong and now corrected yourself
>>740621020>I don't care about le deep lore but played even Haunted Castle and wants more good CV game>I'm a tourist with no independent thought suddenly>I'm excited for shitflixania suddently>I didn't know that "secondary" and "tourism" is synonymous like larper
>>740621517>and wants more good CV gameThen you would also hate this then.
>>740621517Classicvania is in good hands, Konami just needs to shell out a bigger budget to M2 for the next collection.
>>740621716M2 should take the saturn port of SOTN and make it function properly.
>>740621451>It is you who don't understand my previous posts and why I care about the lore so muchYou're entire post was lecturing some anonymous person on the internet about how "deep" Castlevania is by not knowing what canon is in fiction, all while mentioning netflixvania out of the blue despite I've never mentioned it once in my OP. My main argument was that it never had a real continuity, which you failed to counter my argument. Even the shmuplation link you posted was also irrelevant because we were talking about games up to SoTH.
>>740621602Hate what? Haunted Castle? Did I strike your nerve?
Is the cross Vampire Killer the best design decision Lords of Shadow made?
>>740622128>it never had a real continuityYou're retarded.>>740622184The game this thread is about, you stupid moron.
>>740622546One of the few good ones aside from the castles art direction in LoS2.
>>740605065>tumblrnoseHoly fucking shit, the westroon pandering gets worse and worse the more I see.
>>740605514I mean, is Dracula in France such a stretch when Bloodlines had you running around Europe?
>>740624783he shows up in Japan in AOS, France isn't nearly as big a stretch
>>740605217FPBP. shits worse than the zelda timeline where they retroactively try to make everything make sense
Who do you want to be playable outside of Rose and Trevor?
>>740626556Easy answer is the Fallen but I also think Isaac could be fun as an alternate character mode.
>>740626728If Isaac is ever playable I hope The End is with him.
Hope the bosses are tough and the No Damage medals from Ecclesia/Bloodstained come back.Bloodstained was a step-up in terms of bosses, even though a few them were maybe a bit too bullshit.
>>740627302>even though a few them were maybe a bit too bullshitNothing Hellhound spam can't fix.
>>740605065Wake me up when castlevania makes a good game again. I've been asleep since castlevania 3.
>>740627830For me it was the beam you can get from the Abyssal Dragon, then the 8-bit fireballs.
>>740605217fpbp/thread
>>740624783It is if the castle appears there for no reason.>>740625029Not the same, the castle was summoned there specifically after years of preparation, research, etc., after the 1999 event. Apples to oranges.>>740625348>worse than the zelda timelineYou're out of your mind, and a cretin.
>>740628620well maybe there will be an explanation to uncover as to why Dracula popped up in France, then
>fp still here replying to himself after getting btfosad
>>740608127It's nice but it lacks SOVL
>>740624783the bloodlines levels aren't castlevania, only the first>dracula's castle ruins>greek ruins>tower of pisa>g*rman weapon factory>versaille>proserpina castleaand it was an amazing idea and they still felt like castlevania
>>740608127Based Terada
>>740608127Is that cursed arm going to function like the Devil Bringer or Leon Belmonts gauntlet?
>>740605065>is jean d'arc a pure christian heroine and just got brainwashed or is she gonna be subverted bc evil zealot nationalist according to modern writers? role of the church in this game?It gotta be the first case, the game developers are frogs and she's one of the few historical figures with almost zero detractors no matter the ideology. Almost everyone respect her a lot. The in-game description on the website even calls her an heroine
>>740629938considering the game takes place almost 70 years after Joan of Arc's death, it's probably some kind of impersonator and not the real historical figure.
>>740630148She's probably reanimated and that's why she's corrupted. Beating her probably will bring her back to the light by breaking the spell.
>>740629406it's a different kind of soul. kojima and terada were both from a better generation of artists. i just wish she drew more
>>740612608>talk about the games>fag brings up showGo back to twitter you secondary
>>740630148Dracula is a perverse and Satanic being so it probably causes him great delight to corrupt a pure maiden and saint too
>>740629938>a popular historical myth is that Joan of Arc was a comrade of Gilles de Rais I wonder if they'll bring him into this game.
>>740605065>Rose gets an Alucard, Trevor, and Sypha outfit>no Grant outfit in sightGrant is already getting shaftedThis truly is a Castlevania game
>>740605962>because it took decades to put the lore in order, starting with bloodlines and then igarashi's work, it would be a shame to trash all that effort.But the lore is shit.
>>740630353The issue isn't the artist, is the design choices.>>740630148>>740630725Isn't Joan right there in the art? the one that kinda looks like Dullahan but not really?>Gilles de Rais Maybe that's him at the bottom, unless it's Olrox.>>740630871You're shit.
>>740630871No, the lore is kino and the best of any of the classic franchises. These games were made by people passionate about the subject matter despite being a bunch of Japs in Japan.
>>740630938They were passionate about old horror movies. The lore was not anything special, and the more they focused on it the worse it became. Lament of Innocence is quite bad. The aesthetic and theming mattered, but the stories were always disposable at best.
>>740630938Castlevania is a love letter to classic American horror movies.
Castlevania lore is kino and the concept of a legendary holy weapon being passed down through a lineage is based.
>>740616251>NTA butlying faggot
>>740631351The Dead Girlfriend Whip lol
>>740626556Trevor mode should have swapable Sypha and Grant.
>>740631510I think Sarah was totally okay with sacrificing her own soul to create one of the strongest vampire killing weapons ever.
>>740631601And they should be old too, with alternate outfits of their younger selves.Assuming Grant doesn't get shafted again.
>>740631510Yeah but it was Meg Ryan's Dead Girlfriend Whip.
>Trevor Mode>Fully corrupted Rose as the final boss
>>740629938Yeah, from what little we've seen she reeks of holy elements
>>740605065>how will they justify castlevania showing up in frogland?From a meta overview, I watched one of the dev interviews on Konami's channel and they said that they originally thought about setting the game around the Venice carnival, but eventually they went for Paris because its architecture and urban myths fit pretty wellAs well as a bit of national frog pride
>>740632163Because they don't have a deep knowledge of italy and there was the risk of making a caricatural representation of it, they said
Alucard doesn't get raped by niggers in canon right?
>>740632682Never.
>>740627912I can understand preferring the Classicvanias (I do too) or thinking III is the best, but I can't imagine disliking all the Classicvanias made after III.
>>740632682Just in Kojima's fujo fantasies.
Assuming this game is successful, will Konami tap Evil Empire to make more CV games? They already have a bunch of assets they reuse and iterate on for future games.
>>740605065people are missing that rose could mean hector gave her that name in honor of his wife
>>740633734Nope she's called Rose because she probably sacrifices herself and fucking dies.
for the LARPERS that think this is netflixvania shit show them this
>>740633202They should leave 1999 alone (that game was probably meant to be a classicvania) but they can make Quincy Morris story if they want
>>740634838She doesn't seem to have inherited sypha's magic at all, she just uses tarot cards and the powers of the bosses she defeated. Juste Chads stay winning
>>740634017no she's gonna be called Rose because she Rose from the curse.
>>740605217Perhaps the same could be said of all fiction.
>>740634838Netflixcucks are pretty audacious to think their cartoon has any influence on the main series.
>>740634838Netflix fans got BTFO by og faggot isaac and it's so fucking funny, almost karmic
So Rose definitely has massive breasts under her chest plate, right?
>>740636275They're probably B cups.
>>740612780Belmont and Leon are both French names
>>740631351This.>>740632163>its architecture and urban myths fit pretty wellBummer they ruined it with that awful art style.
>>740634838THE REAL Isaac deconfirmed Netflix. I really hope we can all finally admit that game Isaac was always cool, fit the series really well, and is straight up one of the most entertaining and memorable villains in the entire series. Being an evil, sassy gay obsessed with Dracula and having a raging literal hate boner for your rival because he betrayed him is based as fuck
>>740636275Genetic works in mysterious ways. Sometimes your parents are huge but someone back there in the family line was a manlet and you were blessed with that gene.Not that I have a personal experience with it.
>>740605065Isn't this just a rip-off of the rose character from the Blasphemous DLC?
>>740612235>Universal monstersI thought they were Hammer monsters. I know Medusa was a villainess in a Hammer movie.
>>740636937>Being an evil, sassy gay [....] is based as fuckThe average PS2vania fan.
>>740635624Cute girl
>>740637432>The average PS2vania fan.>Gets the most development and screen time than the average Castlevania villain>Fully voiced, every line delivery is top-notch melodrama fitting of the series>His sass is played up to 11, so his performance is pure kino>symbolic, memorable design>Incredible boss themeYes. If you hate him, you hate fun.
>>740637857He makes me cringe but I'm just fucking with you. He was a fun enough villain. CoD in general is a snoozefest dud of a game, though. I managed to like it even less than Lament, a game I think is ass.
Shanoa.
>>740605065Is this from the new game? That artwork looks like absolute gutter trash dog shit
>>740638267She’s very pretty, but my conscience won’t let me get off to autistic girls
>>740605065So they say why her right arm is fucked up?
>>740638806the eponymous Curse
SOMEBODY GET ME THROUGH THIS NIGHTMAREI CAN'T CONTROL MYSELFSO WHAT IF YOU CAN SEE THE DARKEST SIDE OF ME?NO ONE WOULD EVER CHANGE THIS ANIMAL I HAVE BECOMEHELP ME BELIEVE IT'S NOT THE REAL MESOMEBODY HELP ME TAME THIS ANIMAL
>>740636937Isaac being present raises the chances of Hector appearing.
>>740636937No this guy was an embarrassing literal faggot
Music sounds shit. Not happy
I wonder why Trevor isn't just taking care of this shit himself if he's still alive.
>>740639789something probably happens to him in the intro that takes him out of commission
>>740639789He gets to train his daughter and save her at the same time.
Come on, Konami. If you don't announce a PS2 collection during tomorrow's direct, to be released at some point before Belmont's Curse, I will just re-play a ROM of Curse of Darkness on my modded PS3. It's the perfect opportunity
>>740640024Little zoomie, PS2 is easy as shit to emulate these days. The PS2 games aren't even worth remastering. Just emulate and upscale. I'm actually playing CoD right now upscaled with a widescreen patch.
>>740638458Yes. Unfortunately it's slim pickings in this fandom, so I'll definitely have to play it once I can pirate it.
