We really lived to see Final Fantasy getting outshined, not just by the Persona 6's nothingburger announcement trailer but by Persona 4 too.Imagine telling that to JRPG fans in the 2000s.
>twitter metricsutterly meaningless
>>740611537this should be a wakeup call to square enix: fire every fucking retard responsible for the absolutely terrible """remake""" of one of their most iconic games, blacklist nomura for his insistence on having turned ff7 into an "expanded universe" with his gayass fanfic writing, and return to what jrpg fans actually want: a turn-based 4niar adventure
>>740611537I would have believed you because we all knew from 2000s that Square was out and Atlus was the new king.
>>740611537Youtube
>>740611537Online is not real lifeFF7 remake sold more than any persona game.
>>740611537>Imagine telling that to JRPG fans in the 2000s.I would've said "finally, it only took them 20+ years to understand what I already knew".
FF7 Remake 1 sold a third of the entire persona series in 5 years
>>740611537Wtf
>>740611882Yeah, no. Very sure p5 outsold it.Meanwhile Rebirth probably did worse than most games.
>>740611537You know like 75% or more of all Twitter traffic is bots, right
The only people that would care about this is die hard FF fans and haters.
>>740612058Here>>740611857
meaningless twitter numbers. See >>740612009
>>740611537Both FF and Persona fags are pathetic. You're both getting hyped over remakes and remasters instead of actual new games. Fuck off
>>740611537And now Persona is becoming the monster it is over shining.
>>740612163That's arguably even worse for OP's standpoint because the numbers are neck and neck>IT'S OVER IT'S FINISHED THE AGE OF PERSONA IS NOW>less than 200k view difference on Youtube>trailer views on Youtube correlating to sales whatsoever>giving a shit about sales like you're a shareholder for either company
>>740612492Anon, did you forget the summergamefest was 2 days before the xboxgameshow?
>>740611537FF is a boomer franchise now, why are people constantly asking the same questions over and over?Did you know Souls is more popular than Zelda now?
>>740611809>and return to what jrpg fans actually want: a turn-based 4niar adventureFFXVI did profit.
Barry thread. He did the same thing before by pitting Metaphor against Rebirth.
>>740611537I'll play revelation and p6 but I unironically like the minigames being optional and a fully explorable map and hidden characters
>>740611809even if ff7r was turn based it's problem is being THREE games that needed TEN years. Eventually people quit like how Falcom needed to remake the first game because people can't keep up with 13 games
>>740612789Metaphor won that one. Even if i dislike the game.
Final Fantasy is the only acceptable jrpg to me as they are not turbo anime weeb cringe like other jrpg like persona. I dont even like Final Fantasy that much but at least its not on the same level of anime as Persona. Anime is fucking cringe and I dunno how adults enjoy it.
>>740612723It feels like pure disbelief that one of the most powerful franchises in the medium has been reduced to getting mogged in sales and hype but Atlus But that’s the power of making more than one game a decade
>>740611537This is even more pathetic than steamchart threads
>>740611537Anal Fantasy was never good
>>740612949Oh you are that guy who was always writing like this with etrian odyssey and sf6 till sf6 mogged your game enough to make you meek kek
>>740611809didn't nomura want a straight no bullshit remake
>>740612949I think a fair comparison would have been if ff7R came during PS3 when fans were younger and as one game.Only thing they can do is make a new game with this action atb multiplatform day one
>>740612915Sequel Series really ruined FF. Shoulda fired whoever made 13
>>740612949So same shit as Souls and Zelda.
>>740612009>>740611537Everyone can view but more importantly how many of those people buy it?
>>740611537Thank you for funding the actual good Atlus jrpg series, Persona fans. Long live Persona
>>740613356Persona is better than SMT
>>740613393No, it's not.
>>740613356SMTsissies live in eternal delusion
>>740611537I have “40 year old is out of touch by multiple decades” fatigue Persona has been bigger than final fantasy for years and years and years.
>>740613214This analogy doesn't really work because Zelda still sells a huge amount. BotW sold more than Elden Ring despite the latter being multiplat
>>740612695Don't think that really matters for the purposes of screenshot chimping
Dating Sims and RPG's are not the same genre.
>>740613393>>740613529Totally agree, and that's why we should all buy Persona
>>740611537>new entry of a beloved series and the remake to the best entry in the franchise gets more xwitbucks than the 3rd part of the remake that ruined the original not really surprising, specially with how vocal xwitter users are for Persona and how SE have been fucking up the series with their retarded idea that "turn based don't sell/works/the audience don't want it anymore".fuck, I don't give a shit about E33 but it and Persona being massively popular is reason enough for SE to get their shit together and go back to their roots.
>>740613356Nobody cares about smt, only the schizo fujo cared about smtv. That's why the other smt games never get threads
>>740613948>that ruined the originallol even the remake's standpoint is "the original game still exists"
>>740612296>You're both getting hyped over remakes and remasters instead of actual new games. anon-kun...
I don't even know what final fantasy is at the moment. Like if I told you to imagine final fantasy 17, what the fuck kinda game would you imagine? What does it play like, what is the setting or the world? Final fantasy feels like a glossary more than an actual series. You know that there will be chocobos, you know that some guy named Cid will show up, you know the name of spells, but other than that it's a fucking crapshoot. I know exactly how a persona will play like, it's formulaic. Final fantasy is a fantasy world where shit is named like shit from the previous games and that's it. It might be set in some medieval time, it might be set in a futuristic world, it might play like a turn based RPG, an action game, some weird ass game where you set up your party for autoplay or whatever.
>>740614070How many times will you buy your high school but I actually have friends and women like me simulator?
So fucking sick of hearing about this ugly series...
>>740614248shut the fuck up
why does persona 4 need not one but two fucking remakes? it's not like it's an action game and the original was too clunky, it's just 4 niggas in a row
>>740611537No one uses Twitter anymore
>>740614168Congrats anon the entire point of the series is it does whatever it feels like on a game-by-game basis, the only connecting elements are some series standbys, and each game or sub-series is a self contained world that has nothing to do with any of the others.
>>740614118and? they still recreated most of the shit the original had but decided to fuck everything up.
>>740614423I dunno, when I grew up there were final fantasy anthology, 7, 8 and 9. They all played similar to each other. The last ones I played were 13, 15 and then 12 the zodiac age. They might aswell be different fucking series.
>>740612018>very sure p5 outsold itNope you are wrong, get out of you bubble and look at sales FF7 remake at first sales announcement sold 7 million copies that was just on ps4 alone then years ago and this number is already more sold than p5 to this day has sold, ff7 remakes numbers these days with multiplatform relase are now likely in the 10 million or more and again the initial sales report of 7 million alone on ps4 is already more than lifetime sales of p5.
>>740614330because Nanako is perfect and deserve more games.
>>740612492>"twitter is irrelevant!!">heres more evidence>"t-that doesnt count either!!"Consneedsion accepted
>>7406145417, 8 and 9 don't play anything alike to eachother beyond the ATB systemNevermind all three games are pretty blatantly different universe and share only chocobos and moogles in common
>>740614928>7, 8 and 9 don't play anything alikeok whatever, I'm not interested in a discussion with someone as intellectually dishonest as you. Have a nice day.
>>740611537Why don't turn tranny schizos post sales figures? Oh right, that's why. kek
>>740611809Making ff7r a 10 year long stealth sequel was the dumbest descision they could possibly make, it ensured they would not generate a new fanbase and could only milk the same dwindling, aging millenials that already played FF7.Compare it to Resident evil where RE2R birthed an entirely new era of fans.
>>740614330Atlus made bank off the P4 spinoffs and was hoping to do the same with the P5 spinoffs, but nobody bought those. So now Atlus is going back to milking P4
>>740611537Before i write all of this, keep in mind i actually like persona, i think they are fine games.But tell me, OP, if you can. What is supposed to be your point with this? Persona is a better franchise, forget about FF just buy atlus games? Atlus is better because more people saw a trailer? Please make high school simulators with turn based combat, doesnt matter if its good or not, just make it turn based?Atlus, the company that stopped developing their franchise to milk persona 5, the only game in the franchise to sell something (their FF7, if you will), with multiple mediocre games. The company that keeps selling "royal" editions on every single game they release and just with metaphor flopping they stopped. We can address the remake issue as well: Persona 3 Reload was also mediocre and it stripped away P3 identity for persona 5 shit, and the same seems to happen with persona 4, at least persona 4 is closer to p5 than p3 so the change doesnt seem so drastic. The company that took over 10 years to announce (ANNOUNCE, not make) the next entry in the franchise, and that even with those 10 years it will play exactly the same. Same graphics, same gameplay design with one new mechanic to make it seem like they care, same shitty writing and same bloat.Meanwhile, lets see the FF7 remake project, which looks and sounds better than persona games in general, developed in those 10 years as well encompasses 3 games with actually unique, evolving combat system that it is even considered one of the best in the franchise and the genre. Like, lets not even address the writing and content of the games because if you love to complain about bloat, oh boy dont bother with persona 6 if we go by P5 standards.Tell me, are you happy with people being more excited with more of the same? because im personally not. It blackpills me, i fear for genre.And the reason why persona 6 has more views is precisely because of the lack of news. P6 is their FFXV/FF versus 13
>>740611537Persona is gay
>>740615135>late port>sold at full jew price>without any dlc included>released a week after it got a massive 60% sale on Steam/PSN/MS storewow, who would thought it would sell like shit after this? Atlus clearly didn't.
>>740613214Zelda isn’t as good as From’s output but the games are still sales giants. FF is not
>>740615884so is FF7R
>>740615918>>740611537Keep on coping, turn niggers.
>>740615030>intellectual dishonesty from somebody pretending materia, GFs + draw/junction, and set jobs all play the same
>>740616025Original game too albeit
>>740616151>posting the truth about the bad Switch 2 sales is coping nowwould you wait a week to pay $100+ for the game and its dlcs on Switch 2 when you could buy everything for less than $60 on some other platform?
>>740616336So woke...
>>740611537Very white.
>>740611537I assume people are just fatigues of SE's endless degradation of their own property, like >>740611809 said.Remakes are suppose to be the original game with slight QOL and prettier graphics, like the Persona remakes.
>>740611537Persona is to zoomers what Final Fantasy was to millennials. It's that simple.
>>740611537To be fair everyone has known Revelation was going to be announced at some point for like 5 years whereas the P4 port/upgrade and P6 announcements are brand new news. But yeah, FF as a series is pretty much done as Japan's flagship RPG series.
>>740611537>>740611857Final Fantasy is dead
>>740619852Depends entirely on how hard the person observing is nostalgic for or otherwise wanking the original game, nobody bemoans Another Metroid 2 Remake and Samus Returns as degradation of Metroid 2 for example
>>740611537Some falls from grace are too high. You can't go from the SNES/PS1/PS2 quality games down to the PS3 and beyond quality and expect people to just be cool with it.
>>740611537The Persona remakes aren't as offensive as the Final Fantasy remake.
>>740611809this
>>740611537It’s part three of a remake trilogy and presents almost nothing new.
>>740622709and persona 4 is a remake of a game that basically looks fine and is playable on everything currently
>>740622709>and presents almost nothing new.you have to be kidding me
>>740611857Based PersonaChads
>>740621951they are nothing, just a fucking port
>>740615135Nobody cares about the Switch 2
>>740611809wake up call was E33
>>740611537I just want to remind you that 4 niggas in a row has aged like fine wine. Pokemon even is still going strong. Turn Based will outlive all of these other garbage games
>>740623263>I just want to remind you that 4 niggas in a row has aged like fine wine.Not at all, and not thanks to persona, if any. Persona is the most tame one.
>>740623263>Pokemon even is still going strongpokemon is 1 nigga in a row or sometimes, when they feel daring, 2 niggas in a row. it is not the same genre as 4 niggas in a row.
>>740612296But Fatlusbros are hyped over P6...
>>740623575Competitive is officially 2 niggas in a row now, they had 3 niggas in a row at one time in gen 4 or 5
>>740615273Did the P5 spinoffs really not sell well compared to the P4 ones?
>>740611537So what's the grand total in file size of all the FF7 remake parts+DLCs? Will laugh me ass off if and when they do a collection.
>gotta play two other games (and let's be real, all the spinoffs) to get the full storyi wouldn't be surprised if most people stick with the original instead.against my better judgement though, i still desire a AAA ff6 remake.
>>740614207I had both those things in high school and I love persona.
>>740611537All kings die eventually. FF died with the PS2
>>740611537FF hasn't been good since the XIII trilogy.
FF has never recovered from 13
>>740611537We live in a time where both franchises are shit.
>>740625665Yeah it never recovered because XIII set the bar so high. No, I'm not trolling.
>>740625665This but XII
>>740611809>lacklist nomura for his insistence on having turned ff7 into an "expanded universe" with his gayass fanfic writingNomura was the one that tried to make a faithful remake. Nojima is the writer. Fucking troglodyte.
>>740612949>It feels like pure disbelief that one of the most powerful franchises in the mediumFF lost it's way with XI. I think some anons are stuck in the past.
>>740621471/v/ absolutely did.
Can Final Fantasy be saved?
>>740613214Djdjdjd
>>740629518don't sign your posts.
Final Fantasy 7 remake sold more than any persona game so persona is dead.
>>740611537kill all twitter posters and users
>>740611537FF7 is still more popular and iconic
>>740614571P5 has sold well over 10m copies, close to 15m. 7 remake sold 7m and SE STILL won't release the sales figures for Rebirth even after the Switch 2 release. Last speculated number was in the 2m region in 2024 and that number hasn't been updated by analysts.P5R utterly destroyed anything modern SE has put out, and that's not even including the figures of its many spin-offs or the amount of cash they raked in from its 100+ collabs.
>>740611537I'm convinced everyone who "plays" Atlus games is a registered sex offender.
>>740632180ff7 remake sold 7 million on ps4 alone on launch day, you are ignoringg that it got released then on other platforms and since then has sold more than any persona game.You are basically comparing ff7 remake day one sales on one console (7 million) to persona lifetime sales on all consoles.FF7 beat persona on day one sales on one console vs persona on all consoles and since then ff7 got ported to other consoles etcno amount of cope changes that ff7 remake sold more than any person game in existence
>>740633041Also ff7 remake integrate is still selling and is more recent on switch than person 5 and has longer legs on all systems compared to P5.
>>740633041Flopaflop: ReFlopflopzio will break 1m sales any day now, sweaty. :3
>>740611537FFcultists will never recover from this.
>>740611537I'm more excited for Revelation since P4R will be dominated by boring, exhausting cultute war discussions and baiting. Plus, I found Metaphor to be boring. Just hate the calendar system for a game like that.
>>740612762it actually didn't surprisingly enough, not even yoship can keep budgets low for a project in development for 7 years
>>740613114Yea but these niggers always blame him for everything Square does. They're retards
>>740611809>B-B-But Noruma!It's always the brain dead niggers that blame Noruma
>>740614118ok so lets follow that through>remake is shit>oh that sucks>dw, the original game still exists>ok ill just play that and not buy the remake>nobody buys your remakes and you've spent 10 years essentially flushing money away
>>740614928>7, 8 and 9 don't play anything alike to eachother beyond the [combat system which defines the majority of gameplay]
>>740611537persoyna has done an excellent job of cementing itself in the past decade and growing..
>>740612949Persona managed to attract a younger fanbase while FF is geriatric as admitted by Square
>Nomura dindu nuffinKH3 also wasn't his fault either lmao
>>740634703KH3 was a good game, its biggest problem was all Disney's fault lol
>>740611537Final Fantasy hasn't been good since 9 and the 7 demake is complete garbage.
>>740611537twitter is not history you stupid retard
Square continually pushed their core fanbase away while Atlus coveted theirs. b-but muh FINAL FANTASY muh new genre pushing defnining reimagined experience!!!
>>740611537Careful what you wish for. Hashino was the war path declaring Persona is about to become CASUAL BAIT the last time he had an interview. And he isn't even the primary director of the series any more. He stepped down and moved onto other Atlus projects.
The consequence of a generation of discord trannies going "OH MY SCIENCE I LOVE PURSE OWNER 5, I HAVE SUCH GREAT TASTE IN VIDEOGAMES RIGHT EVERYONE?" in every online space
>bought persona 5, persona 5 golden, persona 4 for vita, persona 3 remake, SMT V, SMT III>did not complete a single one
>>740635052the big 3 is very obviously SMT, Ys and Rune Factory
>>740611809>return to what jrpg fans actually want: a turn-based 4niar adventureif that was the case SMT would be more popular than persoyna shit.
>>740635052>better if Final Faggotry was the ki...
>>740634472
I remember telling /v/ FF16 did permanent damage to the FF brand, but Yoshi-p shills refused to admit it. 4 years later and it still hasn't passed 3 mil copies sold*.>*shipped
>>740635965>4 years later and it still hasn't passed 3 mil copies sold*.Wait for the Switch 2 port.
>>740634504>remake is shit(EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER)
>>740634607>baldur's gate 2 plays exactly the same as diablo
>>740611537I swear the only people who still give a shit about FF are 7fags, ie. the most insufferable cunts in the entire fanbase.
4 niggas in a row wins again, if I want just normal hack and slash I'm not going to final fantasy for that
>the future of JRPGs is casualized garbage for normalfags like the weekendgrim
>>740637550>4 niggas in a rowFF hasn't done a niggas in a row game since X-2, my guy.
>>740613393SMT gameplay is superior but the story is most definitely not. Not even the second chance they had to fix shit with Vengeance made anything better.
I'm a fat manlet virgin and I feel embarrassed playing Purse Owner. I'm not sure how people do it.
>>740637362no its more like saying>baldur's gate 2 plays exactly the same as pillars of eternity
>>740638201I am not a fat virgin and I don't feel embarrassed by playing Persona, its a fun time.
>>740611537Final Fantasy was already garbage back then. It sealed its fate after X-2
>>740638201>I'm a fat manlet virginFinal Fantasy fans, everyone
>>740624757Indescribable monument.
>>740638995I have never played a final fantasy game
>>740639221Whatever you say, Paco.
Will 7fags show up for FF17? Lets assume they keep 7R's combat.
>>740639401well the remakes are rat poison for "7fags" because they aren't 100% true remakes, so yeah probably
>>740639301>PacoMost JRPG fans are Latinx. My favorite game is Devil Survivor and I'm Guatemalan.
>>740638201>Purse Ownerkek, I'm stealing this
>>740629518kitase and nojima wanted to make bullshit and nomura is the one who decided to sell it as a remake and not compilationshit #3
I can't play FF7R because I promised myself I would never be tricked into playing a modern Final Fantasy again after XVI being as abysmal as it was.
>>740611882Persona 5 outsold itPersona 3 outsold RebirthPersona 4 outsold RebirthCope
>>740611537a while ago twitter started heavily prioritizing japanese posts in the algorithm to distract trump voters from Trump destroying the global economy and also to heavily fuck payments to large accounts by changing the rules so that only engagement from your region counts, so they heavily spread everyone all over the world now so no one gets paid shit anymore and their lives about 6 months from now so i don't think it's fair to compare official final fantasy account vs Japanese content aggregator accounts
>>740612723BotW and TotK outsold Souls
>>740614330Golden is a port with more content.
>>740639750You're not missing much. Rebirth is worse than XVI
>>740639983I find that hard to believe but I'm not going to play it to find out.
>>740639449>they aren't 100% true remakesWhy would they? that's obviously something incorrect. 90 - 95% it's absolutely perfect.
FF has simply overstayed its welcome. There's like a hundred fucking mainline games, nobody has time for that shit.
>>740611537feb 18, huh. guess i can wait
>>740614928They do. All three have overworlds, have minigames, 3-D combat, pre-rendered scenarios and use turn-based combat. The setting is irrelevant and one game using Materia, Junction, Equipment/Skills is irrelevant.All the first ten games play very similar to each other, and people that disagree are retarded revisionists that like garbage like FFXIII, XV, XVI or Stranger of Paradise.
>>740640042>change the tone and subtext of every single scene in the game>it's only 10% different!
>>740639793>Persona 3 outsold Rebirthretard. metaflop got its royal edition cancelled too.
>>740640042as in they're literally not the same game and are just barely within a similar canon, something that drives the plot of both games so far
>>740611537Maybe just MAYBE if they stop milking the trash that is FFVII. 3 main + spinoffs wasted so much money. FFVII is only popular for the secondaries. All that money should've gone to FFVIII instead, the actual title with high IQ plot and relatable characters.
>>740611537FF has been getting outshined since the disaster that is FFXV
>>740615918So thats why I always see the switch2 P3 in the bargin bin. Not making it a simultaneous release and doing a full price after several months was a retarded business move. It'll be too bad if they skipped P6 on the switch because their dumb decision gave them a bad impression.
Fact that even in reddit. GW3 got more atenttion then ff7 part 3 is sign how badly it's doing.
>>740640279FES and Reload are the same game, gorillatroon.
Funny how faglus got bought by sega right before their only game to ever sell more than 2 million copies came out. Now they give every penny they make to fund dogshit like this.
>>740637864See this is why I will literally never understand the argument that the sole reason the games aren't doing well is turn based combat. People hated XV and yet it's one of like 4 games in the entire series to ever hit 10 million copies. People don't give a flying fuck about the combat system. Not the normies FF is constantly catering to any how. Hell, the most culturally relevant FF in the modern era is an MMO that's far closer to action combat than it is to TB. The problem is that FF hasn't found a world or story that hooks people in a big way in a while. I don't think literally anything would change if the next FF played like an updated FFVI or something, it would be liked by the people clamoring for TB ig but why would it sell any better than their current output? Hopes and Dreams? This genre is full of games of various combat styles struggling to break past 2-3 million copies while looking better than anything pre 2015. FF being the best looking wouldn't matter imo, it's like saying Elden Ring doing well is proof that Nioh going open world would make it a main stream hit or something. A game reaching a level of extreme popularity has an element of secret sauce to it that isn't actually explainable in simple terms imo. Like what about Nier Automata combat wise was so good for it to become a 9 million seller after Gestalt and Replicant flopped back in the day? Not much and it's not even the primary thing people talk about with that game. 2B's design probably did more for that game than being action combat did.
>>740611537Time's a bitch, eh, unc?
i'm excited for part 3 and persona 4 revival and 6
Would be a better comparison if it was FFXVII vs. Persona 6.Instead it's a third part to a game we generally already know how it will play out story-wise.
People comparing Metaphor to FFVII are probably retarded enough to compare stuff like Cassete Beasts to Pokémon or Ys to Zelda.FFVII has OBLIGATION to sell 50x more than a new IP from a AA niche dev like Atlus.Fucking FFVII Rebirth selling 3~4 million vs 2 million of Metaphor is not shameful for Atlus. It's a humiliation ritual for SQEX.
>AA niche dev like Atlusso faglus cult members want you to believe they are the kings of the genre with journos giving their dogshit 10 extra points with every release. and at the same time they are a niche indie dev who spends 8 years on making a new IP.
>>740642640Metaphor being a absolute shit game is the only real shame
>re-re-re-re-re-release of P4WE ARE TRAPPED INSIDE THE TV
>>740642919>seething for 8 hours straight in a single thread*sucks air through teeth* mmmmmyeaaaah that's gonna be an ick from me
metaflop got its royal edition cancelled.
>>740611809the remake trilogy will still be discussed and discussed years later, while p3r has already been forgotten and so will p4r. square made the better call.
>>740641520>I will literally never understand the argument that the sole reason the games aren't doing well is turn based combatgood for you considering no one ever makes that argumentobviously if they made a shitty game that happened to be turn based no one would buy it
>>740611537Making a stupid Nomura fanfic rewrite instead of a proper remake was the death knell for SE.
>>740644714>discussedlaughed at
>>740612009The fact people are more excited to see FF7 stuff in other shit shows that the lack of interest squares solely on the shitty remake.
>>740611537..i mean you sure? it seems like every persona thread is dominated not by persona talk but by talking about final fantasy lol
>>740611537SE will shutdown after FFVII and DQXI. They have nothing left.
>remake a game>stretch it over 7 yearsI don't understand the point of this.
>>740611537Persona 5 has sold more than literally any Final Fantasy game ever, this is not new.
>>740611537is this surprising when square has been shitting the bed with retarded woke decision after retarded woke decision for years now?anyway they were forced to walk back woke lemutt and fire his tranny vaLMAO
>>740611537>SEWoke>SEGAWoke
>>740635965F16 is legitimately my least favourite game in the entire series. I'd genuinely say I think the 13 trilogy or 10-2 are less egregiously bad cause 16 is so unbelievably boring that I couldn't even finish it.
>>740641520Saying XV sold well is a bad argument. It sold well because it had a literal decade of hype behind it.
>>740646880I know more people that finished XVI than XII.
>>740646963XV also had the Duscae demo which was actually promising. Little did we know at the time that the demo region was where you'd be spending 2/3rds of the finished game at.
>>740645424same shit happened when metaphor got released lmaoIf you wanted to find metaphor fans you couldnt find them at all because no one was making threads/talked about the game, the only way you could find them was to create a rebirth thread and just like clockwork they would come and shit it up lol
>>740611537Ff7 original is stll fuck8ng awesome. It's the remakes that are dogshit and completely failed to capture what made ff7 great.
>>740647235It's the same kind of shit with wuthering waves, thread wouldn't survive without mentioning genshin or pretending genshin faggots were attacking wuwa If your game has the ex girlfriend syndrome then that's bad news.
so whats in this new P4 bullshit?it's been a couple of decades and they still haven't given me a good reason to move away from the PS2 version.
>>740646963It went on to sell an additional 5 million post launch Remake part 1 had a better reception to almost every aspect of its final release and didn't get a sales tail that crazy
>>740647703>so whats in this new P4 bullshit?turbo babbyfied just like p3 demake and persoyna 5
>>740611809This game is going to be Kitase's last game anyway, the old guard of Square Enix is on their way out for better or for worse.
>>740611537Kek. All time low for FF fags
Almost like the autistic fucks and trannies who play fatlas games are terminally online and LOVE games that allow them to pretend to be popular.
>>740611537I liked what I saw from revelation more than P4R (I have it too fresh). I'll probably buy them later but I prefer waiting for P6
>>740611809spbp
>>740611537I mean, Persona 5 has already dabbed on every other turn based JRPG when it came out, and both franchises have been spinning their wheels since then
zoomers are now middle aged and nostalgic for persona 5 like millennials were nostalgic for ff7. now all the millennials have aged out of videogames
>>740611537Personal is an incel data sim, FF is for real gamers
>>740654058Phoneposters aren't even human.
>>740641520Series was literally always story-game shit, it just used to be good at it. They haven't been about that life for a long time. Nothing about XV is going to hook anyone, the aesthetic doesn't match the premise. "Oh, road trip." Bitch, the modern world isn't a tourist trap. You can't put your game into a pastiche of present-day and not have it be some Idol Master/Stardew Valley hybrid. I don't care if it sounds like ass, you and I aren't a billion dollar+ Japanese Megacorp. They could have made it work; they could have made anything work. But they did not have the vision, the discipline, or the cold hard ambition to make something that takes an entire industry by the balls again. Their wealth has completely blinded them, and they've become decadent, it isn't about anything but keeping the flagship afloat anymore. That's why they're going to keep making once-a-decade showponies to prance about on stage, it's all a tribute to their past greatness, but none of that's left now. The irony that they want to connect with modern zeitgeist while lacking any of the street-level ingenuity and poise required is killer.
Why people hate Rebirth? I thought it was the best FF game in a long time.
>>740642919E33 sold 3x more than the biggest name of the genre along Chrono Trigger and FFX. The Remake project is a failure, cope.
>>740656469I don't hate it, but modern FF fans live in another dimension and are flat Earth believers. It's pretty clear SQEX isn't doing very hot, Rebirth and XVI had less than stellar sales and the company is getting carried hard by FFXIV (7.0 still sucked hard)
>>740658012They just need to stop making trilogies and they will be fineI like Rebirth combat
Children, calm down already. Nobody cares about your tranny jrpgs anymore. They're not relevant and haven't been in two decades. BG3 and Elden Ring each outsold FF7Remake, FF7Rebirth, FF16, Persona 5 and Metaflop combined in a single year. Skyrim and Witcher 3 both have sold over 60 million copies.
>>740658396Kids prefer gachas these days
>>740656469When I found out about the timejannies, I decided to not buy any of the FF7 "remake" and write it off completely. The concept itself is so profoundly retarded from a business standpoint that I lost interest on that alone. It doesn't even matter to me if it's good or bad, it's simply full on retard shit
>>740658396TW3 was lightning in a bottle and the only relevant game CD Projekt ever made.
>>740631540By giving the IP to literally ANYONE ELSE yes
>>740658396Back to your containment thread, E33 brownoid.
Real JRPG fans don't play on the tendie tablet
>>740611537Well yeah because they've been wasting 6+ years of their time making a remake that isn't really a remake for three games. Even if someone "might" be interested in FF7R, they first have to play the first two games to get to Revelation, so you're filtering out a wide sweep of people.Then there's the problem where they want to distance themselves from being a JRPG for whatever reason. I don't really like the "realistic anime" look they've been going for, and for long run times that JRPGs have I don't think RPG action combat is as fun as turn based. My personal opinion more than a damnation, but still, it isn't enticing to me.
>>740658396Elden Ring is a JRPG you retarded faggot>nooooo it's ARPG!!!and so is FF16 you subhuman
>>740619961>zoomerPeople who grew up with P3 and P4 are in their mid 30s
>>740661087Based and true
>>740611537Its about generations.DQ was THE JRPG back in the day and its place was taken by FF. FF was THE jrpg franchise back in the day and its place is being taken by Persona. In the future, people will get tired of Persona and it will be taken away by a new JRPG franchise, might as well be happening right now immediately with Clair obscur series.Judging by how purse owners behave when people mention exp33, i dont think they wont be able to handle that their high school simulator isnt necessary anymore.
>>740613114>>740629518>Nomura wanted a remakeWhy didn't he make it then
