The discussion will start all over again!
>>740620850idgi
>>740621014it went over your head lmao
How much do you want to be atlus will make kanji and yosuke gay in the remake
>>740621061Yeah, lmao
>>740621089I don't want to be atlus
>>740621089Trannies wont buy the game unless atlus caves anyway, and they need that blackrock funding. Metaphor flopping did unseen damage to atlus
>>740621061
>>740620850Not over their heads. These are the exact people that the game is calling out.
>>740621014Kanji's story is about accepting that he's a bit gay.Naoto's story is about accepting that she is indeed a female. (And a voluptuous one at that!)
fixed
>>740621614
>>740620850Kanji continued to like Naoto after he found out she’s a girl.
Kanji was never gay. In fact, he's even straighter than every other man for lusting over a tomboy
Thinking Kanji is gay and then missing the actual closet homo in the group is the ultimate speedreader test.
>>740621614kek
>>740620850Are trannies claiming Mulan as theirs now? A character who specifically exists to underline that you can do typically manly things as a woman, while remaining a woman?
>>740621538I’ve seen rumors naoto is being played by a man pretending to be a women
Who cares, I want to fuck Rise in every invented position
>>740621614idgi
>>740620850While that picture is true for P4 and P4G, you do know they will retcon all of that and simply make them trans and gay, right? That's what making a game for the modern era means.
>>740620850Except now that headcanon will be real because leftists with secondaries will enforce it. Thank California for this. https://xcancel.com/nicorenin/status/2063749692484157634
My favourite part will be all the doomfaggory as if localization and script won’t be nearly 1:1 like reload
I'm already sick of seeing Persona threads.
>>740620850
>retards have been saying this for a decade now, even for remasters>most that has happened was a rainbow flag on an npc and a rewrite of the beach scene in reload>in a game with a canon lesbian npc to begin with Anti-woke incel bros thinking persona isn’t inherently woke is the biggest fucking gaslight
>>740621014Mentall illness
>>740621614Just end the thread here. It’s not gonna get better than this post.
>>740622261>*Trannies plague entire internet and constantly fuck everything up*>Normal people - "Why are trannies always fuckingeverything up?">Tranny -"Wahhh stop bringing up trannies"
Is naoto really being voiced by a guy in the remake?
>>740624260Yes and Kanji will be voiced by actual faggot
>>740624068>4chan is normal and speaks for everyone and you're a tranny if you say anything!!!!!!
>>740620850Kanji was gay because he thought naoto was a dude and liked him. Naoto is trans because be xhe wants to be a man and tapes her tiddys
>>740621815Wouldn't be surprised if that's true
>>740625054Correct, 4chan is the least censored place on the internet and therefore has to be considered the most normal discourse.
>>740625815/thread
>>740621815>dubnot on my machine she isn't
>>740621802>A character who specifically exists to underline that you can do typically manly things as a woman, while remaining a woman?That's Naoto's arc. She LARPs as a male detective because Japanese society does not accept women solving crimes. Her Shadow is a mad scientist who wants to give herself a sex change. You have to stop it.
>>740626102Too bad Twitter will just look at that and go pic related
Naoto discourse gave me a hatred for trans people that I will never recover from.People who hate on tomboys due to their own insecurities are the biggest faggots in the world. And don't get me started on Femboy erasure.
>>740620850No because Atlus will fix it by making Kanji come out of the closet and Naoto accept being trans male.
>>740626158>xhe just LARPS as a manHows that any different then what trannies do?
>>740620850They're both trans and gay, howeverbeit.Naoto isn't trans, it's beaten over your head with the defeat of her boss and her having to assume the role of a man because of Japanese culture.Kanji, meanwhile: Is a flamer in denial.
>>740622261I used xitter for a week and realized that 99.9% of the posts people accuse of being trannies are indeed trannies.
These people weren't around when P4 came out. There were some threads about Kanji being gay (and women doing their BL thing) but you can't compare it to today. P4 was the tail end of Fatlus as a demographic.
>>740626362Well yeah, the best way to derail an argument is to false flag.
>>740621715Which is Atlus punking out. There are numerous clues Kanji is gay (or bi if were being generous).
>>740626352Kanji's arc is closer to "Being sensitive and liking girly things doesn't make you gay. Adapting a phony tough guy attitude is ultimately self destructive."
>>740625904
>>740626158NWNBAM.jpg
now remake danganronpa so we can get 10 more years of chihiro Discourse also
>>740626770Wasn't Chihiro unironically an autistic AGP hacker? These devs know their audience.
>>740626102So, how's this gonna change in the remake?
>>740625054Dude even Crystal Cafe whines about trannies every day and that site is for women. If they’re not safe nobody is.
>>740626848no chihiro was just a dude who got bullied into pretending to be a girl because he was feminine (accurate representation of transgenderism btw)
>>740626965>Crystal Cafe hates men who pretend to be womenWow. Shocking. Startling revelations here. nobody could possibly have seen that coming
>>740626158>if naoto's arc ended with her transitioning to a male it would completely undermine gender equality movement as it reinforces a woman was not capable until she became a man>trannies still shit and piss and beg for atlus to completely fuck the story up and just make her troon outgee I wonder why theres so much infighting on the left
>>740626291Trannies genuinely think they are what they aren't, LARPers always know what they aren't
>>740621435Poland?
>>740627468They will nail it now since Sega are retarded and because the actual tranny is now voicing Naoto.
>>740627520I just googled retard flag and copy pasted
>>740621538Insidious grooming nomenclature. May God have mercy upon your filthy wretched soul.
>>740622261It's the newest blight of the age. Man the fuck up and speak your shit upon it, we must prepare to abolish it finally when the boomers are finally dead.
>>7406278464chan used to not be a political activism website
>>740628269It was over the moment that retard fucked that card stand
>>740622261>>740625054
>Sure eating child molesters that eat feces are bad but you people that are anti child molesting and eating feces are actually just as bad, two sides of the same coin really
>>740627159...sexually bullied?
>>740621089Naoto ain't going tranny. They'll probably destroy Kanji's storyline.
Naoto can't be a transman because she was never raped or molested as a child and for whatever reason, 90% of the time that seems to be the source of it when it's ftm. Sad really, unironically.
>>740627572>actual tranny is now voicing naotoPlease tell me you are joking
>>740620850Naoto is rumored to be voiced by a tranny in the new dub.Recasting the dub is retarded considering they put out so many games with the old cast while they were refusing to make Persona 5
>>740622409Nigger when the Internet was liberal/libertarian and Tumblr was a containment zone people mocked the Tumblr freaks saying Naoto was trans and Kanji was gay. But guess what the Internet is now Tumblr and the tumblrites are in charge of localization, HR, and the game industry.
>>740629408>while they were refusing to make Persona 5They were always working on P5, hell they made Catherine purely as a testbed for the engine and model quality. The problem is in 2011 the quake/tsunami happened and the Japanese government's response to it was a complete and total political shitshow, and so the dev team (Hashino especially) completely dropped the "backpacking across the world" plot to focus on a Japan-focused story specifically about how the Japanese government sucks and the reason it sucks is less because it's full of bad people, but because society is so conformist and apathetic that they let the bad people that do exist get away with everything.
>>740626102Atlus is so cucked that they will probably make Naoto actually a trannie even if that angers the waifufags.
>>740626158
>>7406318320% chance that 2026 Atlus that made Metaphor leaves this line in the game.
>>740629173Sega is extremely progressive, probably the most progressive Japanese video game company.
>>740625904>most normal discourse
>>740621089Yosuke was always a faggot
>>740621089Unfortunately I could see them either making him full gay or sanitizing it so there's no hinting at gayness by changing the bathhouse and some scenes. No chance with Yosuke. His entire awakening sequence and social link is about his oneitis for that one chick.
>>740621614The P4 discourse will never not be funny
>>740629408>Naoto is rumored to be voiced by a tranny in the new dub.If they do this Atlus is dead to me.
>>740620850Here we go again.
>>740627468They're not opposed to socially transitioning or defying with gender roles, their complaint was that it was done messily by pushing the false narrative of minors cutting their genitals or getting sex changes. You can't get it until you're 18 after numerous psych evals.
>>740621538Kanji is so afraid of being rejected so he clings to any chance of a relationship he can get, man or woman.
>>740628762The chud simply wanted to be left alone. The tranny does not and wants the entirety of society to conform to his beliefs. They are not the same.
>>740633259your pedo president proves the opposite
>>740633259everyone wants to be "left alone" yet will start seething and whining when they see something they don't like or disagree with
>>740633017You can choose to not play the garbage dub, because atlus of America is woke as fuck
>>740620850who cares, post naoto
>>740633097Is he taking a shit
>>740620850naoto is a transgender man and kanji is bi thoughbeit
>>740620850Leftytroons didn't notice that in the end of the game, she stops being a troon and he stops being gay.
>>740633524I think it is funny that a lot of the case asked to come back and was told no but Japanese stays the same. Yuri Lowenthol is much bigger now and is in AAA game shit and he really wanted to come back. Truly Atlus of America is more ideological than fan or money centric
I Just want to punish a trannys butt so bad you guys. Like its not gay its based, like punish them for their faggotry by nutting deep in their colon while holding their chin and saying "you're somebody's son" as I hold their body into mine.Its based.
What if I want an actual trap love interest in persona and not just a psuedo-pooner
>>740620850Kanji is bi.Naoto is obviously not trans and the only people who think that are deliberately misrepresenting her.
>>740633524I can choose to just pirate the fucking game instead, too.They already got rid of the p3 cast I loved so what's the point.
>>740634069I remember renting Persona 3 as a kid at family video and then buying FES when it came out and later 4. Persona 3 meant a lot to me when I was young and then changing the voice cast also pissed me off so I never bothered to play the remake.I don't understand the desire to throw out a what was the big part of what the original fanbase cared about.
a new era of Rise getting cucked by best girl
Here's the real funniest possible outcome:>naoto explicitly confirmed to not be trans>kanji explicitly confirmed to not be a fag>yosuke gay route not only restored, but made a major part of his character arcThe shitposting that would follow in the wake of this would make God weep.
>>740621014fpbp
>>740626537You are literally the type of person that stressed Kanji out. Labeling him gay over stereotypes.
>>740633097Well that's because the trannie mindset is, if you ever have self-doubts and inner conflict, the only correct answer is giving in and let your inner demons have their way.
>>740628727>How dare you go against polthink>>740627846Idiot
If Naoto is trans that means the shadows are 100% correct which means every single cast member is a horrible person
>Trannies and leftoids constantly demand and argue that doing something masculine as a woman or something feminine as a man doesn't make you less of a woman/man>People eventually go "Yeah alright, sure.">The instant someone does any of that they cry that you're transgender and try to get you to convertExplain this to me
>>740626102It's hilarious how quickly trannies and pride fags are to label someone for doing something stereotypical.>Oh you're a guy that like pink? You should be a girl!
>>740634964shadows are obviously just a person's intrusive thoughts manifested. if you've never had them you're lying
>>740634507But Yousuke is a well known fag already.Kanji has shitposting potential because he isn't gay.
>>740634967>>Trannies and leftoids constantly demand and argue that doing something masculine as a woman or something feminine as a man doesn't make you less of a woman/man>>People eventually go "Yeah alright, sure."This is what was taught in the 00s >The instant someone does any of that they cry that you're transgender and try to get you to convertThis is the change that happened around 2012 onwards
>>740621538Kanji's story is about being afraid of being judged and rejected for being himself, he doesn't want to be called queer just because he thinks sewing is cool (it is possible he might be a bit gay, but the point is that his interests have nothing to do with that)And for those who ask>But why was his shadow gay?It is explicitly said later in the game that the image that comes up on the TV is a reflection of other people's assumptions about the person which is why the Namatame that came up on the TV seemed so evil, the playable cast in the room were all assuming he was guilty
i love baiting as much as the next guy but sometimes i wish we could still talk about a little genderbending and homosexuality and all the different little ways it happens and have it be cute and fun without it blowing up in 0.0001 seconds and taken to its most extreme ends and being just shitflinging about everything being 2016 flavor dick splitting trannies and trans rights level discourse
>>740634967Only standards they have are double standards.
>>740634507Does anyone even like Yosuke?
>>740634967>Explain this to meConversion doesn't happen at all. If they wanted to convert people into being lgbt, then they would beat and torture them like Christians do with their lgbt kids.
>>740635130Same, polarization affected everything. Can't even have "lol everyone's gay for Bridget!" jokes
>>740635210Trannies are a cult like religion. You can't prove anyone looking in otherwise. Sorry zir
>>740635210>Conversion doesn't happen at all.
>>740635210Yeah, you just shoot up Catholic schools, Lilith.
Naoto is flat.
>>740635196Only retards don't like Yosuke
>>740635210nta but it's all the "omg you're an egg! I could turn you into a beautiful girl ;))))" shit. A trans person got banned from a local college's compsci discord server because they were harassing people with egg shit and people doing this stuff is more common than you'd think (though probably less than the average "REEE TRANNIES" poster assumes)
>>740635196I hate Yousuke.Him and Marie really drag P4 down.
>>740635196I kinda liked playing as him in arena. That's it.
>>740635343I just constantly see him shat on and never talked about positively. Also didn't he have a crush on the first girl found dead? How the fuck were they planning to make him gay when that's what triggered the events of the game?
>>740620850>potentially gay people are all rapistswhat did yosuke mean by this
>>740635448He's simply just not as good as Junpei
>>740620850Revival monkey's paw: Kanji and Naoto get to keep their original arcs, but Yosuke romance option is restored.
>>740635196I like Yosuke, he's just a decent dude with flaws without it turning into him having to prostrate himself constantly for them. I think he helps add a genuine feel to the cast.
>>740635196He's an annoying fag (literally).
>>740635210It's not conversion through threats of violence, it's conversion through absolute acceptance (as long as you follow The Rules) and then social isolation from everyone else not in the in-group like many cults are
>>740635485He's closeted, unironically. Like half of his dialog regarding Kanji is blatantly written to hint that he's a closeted fag projecting his attraction to men on others, but the devs pussied out and cut the gay route so close to launch that it got dubbed anyways.
>>740632126Metaphor's message was literally "racism was inevitable".
>>740635516>monkey's pawBut restoring the gay route would be a good thing.
>>740635574Yousuke drama was him being in love with the girl that got killed first.
>>740635545This, a friend of mine from highschool fell into this. Got into a discord full of trannies around sophomore year. They convinced him everyone telling him to stop acting like a faggot hated him, and they were his only friends. You can guess where he is now.
>>740634991because fundamentally they can't be, only imitate
>>740633417Because it's encroaching into their space. That's the entire point. It's not "I don't want to complain", it's "I don't want your shit touching my shit." type of social agreement. In baby boomer terms this is known as "Live and let live." Leftists hated this term the most since they think more in grand societal changes rather than personal ones.
>>740635538>>740635574How could he be gay when he had a crush on Saki? It was cut content for a reason.
>>740635153cute boy
>>740635523In the remake, Yosuke's gonna prostate himself, if you know what I mean.
>>740635715>How could he be gay when he had a crush on Saki?>what is a beard
>>740635662and was going fuck the hot new city boy if she lived
>>740633595He's sitting down.
>>740621089The English localization will do this at the very least. Just look at 13 Sentinels.
>>740635691canon as fuck (adachi tops him after)
>>740622261>why are gamers complaining about the majority of mentally ill activists corrupting the gaming companies from top to bottom
>>740635763a practical arrangement with minimal emotional involvement
>>740635574This is fujo cope. The dude collects porno magazines of women in nurses outfits that keeps hidden. Every homoerotic moment with him is played for laughs and/or fujobait. Literally every dude in this series has gotten moments like that
>>740621089you might be able to gay-date them maybe.
>>740635818he also keeps a blonde twink in the closet of his room
>>740635691imagine if Nanako walked in on this
>>740635808>minimal emotional involvementLike with Saki?
>>740635398>(though probably less than the average "REEE TRANNIES" poster assumes)no. it's more common than you think.
>>740635715It's a performative crush.
>>740626537>people should be free to express themselves without judgement>omg THIS GUY LIKES KNITTING HE'S KWEEEER!
>>740635918if you read that whole post then you'd feel pretty fucking stupid right about now
>>740635763usually you to actually have to actually date the beard instead of simping for one
>>740635516This isn't the cruel twist you think it is because you can't avoid Kanji's and Naoto's arcs, but you can avoid social links and their romance routes.
>>740621089>KanjiNo, he was never gay.>YosukeYes, he was always gay.
>>740635763Nigger you don't go to the lengths he did to save a beard. It's hilarious watching you fags just this. Accept it was cut for a reason
>>740635859he makes him wear the dress, so therefore it’s not gay
>>740636058t. yosuke
>>740625054>saving a thumbnail
>>740635931See>>740636038Faggots are losing this battle
>>740636058this is actually sound logic though
>>740635859>blonde twink>is a bearcheckmate, atheists
NAOTO PAIZURI
>>740625054D I L A T EI L A T EL A T EA T ET EE
>>740635583>tfw Yosuke did far more and much more effective investigation than she did and all anyone talks about is him either being a fag or offending redditfags
>>740635828when your boob itchy
>>740634810The irony is lost on them. They're just stuck in their delusion. Anything that threatens their perfect worldview is either wrong, or didn't happen.
>BROOO I TOTALLY HAVE A CRUSH ON THIS GIRL>HAHAHA PORN MAGS PORN MAGS>UHHH KANJI THAT'S KIND OF GAY, ARE YOU GAY?>GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS GIR->*Yu looks at him*>hfwthis nigga gay af
We like BROSUKE here
>>740636289Everyone did, Naoto suckedWhen all the fog rolled into the real world, even fucking Kanji could rub two brain cells together and try putting on the glasses
>>740636406yeah we do.
>>740635436>Golden fagNah miss me with that gay shit
the only people who discuss this "controversy" are the people who bring up these supposed people discussing it
>>740635807>gamers complaining about the majority of mentally ill activistsBut enough about /v/>>740636082>This saved tranny picture will show you!!!!
>>740636289Qrd?
>Devs didn't add the femMC because too much work >Fags seethed over it for months>Now the same fags are 100% certain the joke gay romance with Yosuke that was cut will definitely be in Revival
>>740636574/v/ is unfortunately considered a political soapbox by an obnoxious group of complete faggots who felt welcomed.
>>740636734Yosuke did all the actual detective work. The only thing Naoto did was get herself captured and encourage you to kill the mailman dude
>>740636763>joke gay romanceIf you listen to the dialogue, it was played straight (haha).
>>740636763Don't associate me with the gay yosuke route fags.I wanted my kino character not a brosuke brojob
>>740621614hehe
>>740636574trannies
>>740635516Reminder the same people who wants this or female mc so they can romance the guys are the same people who will call you a pedophile for having a persona waifu
>>740636574Actually I stopped watching my internet best friends Pat and Woolie because they went full troon over this topic in like 2019
>>740636889Anon your waifu is Nanako.
>>740636889I'm pretty sure most femc fags also have a persona waifu
>>740636763>>Devs didn't add the femMC because too much workThey didn't add the femc because it was added by someone who never worked on FES, runs entirely contrary to the original dev team and writer's intentions, and was a bad idea all around.
>>740636985What exactly was the bad idea all around with the p3p femc
>>740636967Nah, these people are absolutely real. I've seen queer people and women wanting hecking romance for themselves, while calling people pedos over liking the girls. >>740636950I'm a risefag actually
>>740636882I need doujins where things start with the binder on, but then it comes off and suddenly boi-oi-oi-oi-oingggg, her bazongas are just flopping all over the MC's face.
>>740636985it’s not like Reload was made by the same people that made FES either
>>740636889Doesn't /v/ want Persona to say in high school specifically because anons want to jack off to Japanese high school girls?
>>740637090Yeah I'm sure there's a small percentage of normalfags that are like what you described, but back in the day the majority were just regular weebs that liked the femc
>>740636985why is door being a woman such a bad idea, door didn't need a penis to do what he did
>>740637028>Ruins the atmosphere with bubblegum pink menus>Upbeat and hip girl when the main character is supposed to be fucking Melancholy (could have at least just made a girl version of the MC but they couldn't even do that right)>literally only exists as fanservice.>The only people who want femc don't actually give a shit about persona 3 outside of wanting to be a girl.I'm glad she isn't in. You people are insufferable.
Yosuke new dubbed voice is such a downgrade its insane
>>740637246>Upbeat and hip girl when the main character is supposed to be fucking Melancholynta but she's still very clearly depressed, she just goes about expressing that in a different way than Door-kun.
>>740637246>Ruins the atmosphere with bubblegum pink menusThere's barely any difference.>Upbeat and hip girl when the main character is supposed to be fucking Melancholy (could have at least just made a girl version of the MC but they couldn't even do that right)She's a different brand of depression and apathy, as opposed to Minato's reserved kind. It still fits.>literally only exists as fanservice.False,>The only people who want femc don't actually give a shit about persona 3 outside of wanting to be a girl.There it is, that's what I was waiting for. You just dislike FeMC because of some weird association you made with trannies.>Emulatornigger instead of playing it on his ps2 (real)Disregarded
>>740637246These are really weak reasons to hate Kotone.
>>740637390>nta but she's still very clearly depressedShe isn't. That's fanfiction you cretins included to justify her out of place design and attitude.It's also not enough justification. The story has a very clear tone and intent behind it and the portable devs didn't respect that.
>>740637246Stop letting your chronic social media use ruin things that aren't actually problems.P3P sucks for a multitude of reasons, but the FeMC implementation was really well done and had a lot of effort put into it.
>>740637613irrational autism, got it, no need for further sperging
>Persona 3 is entirely written around the MC being a guy from the ground up>Let's just half-assedly shove in a femc and rewrite the scenes so they no longer make sense!>Have to cut the entire epilogue because Yukari threatening to kill everyone after suddenly falling in love with a girl post-mortem would make SO much sensethere is literally no solid defense for FeMC.
>>740637735irrational autism, got it, no need for further sperging
>Pre-2016 /v/>Everyone likes FeMC. The only real complaint about P3P is the VN style navigation but it's understood because of the PSP and made up for by the addition of an entire new route.>Post-2016 /v/>You already know the drillCurious.>>740637735Everything still makes sense with FeMC sperglord. Minato was a fucking woman in the concept art for 3, lmao
If Atlus has the balls to keep Naoto's story and line as the same, could you imagine if this was the start of normalizing pushing back against the tranny agenda and making people wake the fuck up? If that genuinely happens, I'd ignore every critique I have of the games going forward and take all the ones I had before back. Changing the world is more important than seething over writing.
>>740637613>She isn't. That's fanfiction
>>740637797>Everyonelol no, even using peach in mario party was gayFaggot loser
I think they won't change Naoto too much, her archetype is well kown, the girl trying to strive among men type of thingNOW Kanji they will 100% make him bi without any room for interpretation
>>740637769That binder must be made of steel or something.
>>740635339A majority of school shootings are done by right-wingers, not by transgender people.>>740635314They don't torture and kill to make people trans, so it can't count as one.
>>740637863>Naoto x RiseMan, what was that crackship about with some doujin artists.
>>740637858That's because peach is a princess, and a cutie girlfriend
>>740637735>Persona 3 is entirely written around the MC being a guy from the ground upHashino himself said there’s literally nothing in the story stopping the protagonist in Persona 3 from being a girl
>>740637858/thread
>>740637797>Everything still makes sense with FeMC sperglordIt literally doesn't.
>>740638004You can't /thread your own post.
>>740637797People constantly asking for FeMCs in P5 and P6 are obnoxious, but that bled into some anons having an irrational hatred for Kotone when she's a good character that was implemented well into P3P.
>There should have been a FeMC in the bible.
>>740637813I dunno how they're gonna do this without being pitchforked as bigoted. I'm sure some localizers will have an agenda of their own and try to twist it.
>>740638053/thread
>Mention trannies.>FeMCfags flood the thread like it's their bat signal.
>>740635485most accurate depiction of a high schooler I've ever seen.
>>740638023It figuratively does.>>740638070Yes and newfags being faggots doesn't retroactively change the way things were
Hopefully they update it to be explcity gay.
>>740635398That stuff happens, but it is not enough to make people flip their entire life over. People are beaten and threatened into devoting themselves to lifelong cause, and that doesn't happen with dumbasses annoying others that they are trans. That's an right-wing framing that is made to imply that transgender people are dangerous.It's like claiming that you'll be conditioned to automatically believe in online scams after being sent enough spam calls/emails. The mind doesn't work that way at all.
>>740638227>Mention FeMC>/v/ starts talking about trannies
>>740638328We don't talk about the Naoto novel
>>740638351I will direct your attention to the OP's image.
>>740635887"UNF. UGH. UUGGH OH ADACHI UGNH">Naoto turns the TV volume to 11"UGH OOOHH I SMELL YOUR CABBAGEY CUM ADACHI">Every day young life junes! (oh great it's the japanese one) "Sir ahmabboutta-""SHUT UP ADACHI [walls shaking]>E-every day's g-g-great with your J-junes!
>>740637949>they don't torture people to make them transThey only permanently mutilate and castrate them.
>>740638351They both need to go.
>>740638351>Mention anything>/v/ starts talking about trannies
>>740638089yeah she’s called the Virgin Mary
>>740635398Those people are literally paid by (((FOREIGN AGENTS))) to spread certain ideologies in countries they plan to destroy.
I ran out of Naoto pics. You guys enjoy arguing about gays and trannies or whatever, I'm out
>>740638502You're gay if you like Naoto.
>>740638461and no one ate diner that night
>>740638461>Junes mottoThe rare time the English translation is better. I'm still not fucking shopping at Junes though I've literally never seen the manager and their unemployed son seems to be holding the place together. I bet half the stock is out of date and there's never any fucking TOPSICLES.
>>740621802>Are trannies claiming Mulan as theirs now?That's literally not what the op pic was showing holy cow dude
>>740638502Thanks, Naotobro, you're a real one.
During my first playthrough when Shirogane showed up I freaked the fuck out cause I thought it was the player character from Persona 3, which I had just finished.
>>740637957Literally just autism and thinking with their cocks. But that goes for most shipping faggotry
>>740638502thank you for your contributions
>>740638539Wild how much of an impact that comic series has. Imagine making it and then trying to distance yourself from it while having a nothing-career after.
>>740638340I just want to know what the fuck is happening in toilets. I usually just take fat shits in them I didn't realise it was molestation capital.
>>740633842>Like its not gay its basedIt's literally textbook homosexuality lol
>>740635094>It is explicitly said later in the game that the image that comes up on the TV is a reflection of ... except Rice accepts she is kind of a whore after defeating her shadowthe shadows might not be telling the whole story but they arent lying either
>>740638340For most normies, you're right, but there is a large correlation between being trans and being on the autism spectrum. Those people are pretty vulnerable to it.>>740638494It was someone who went to the college that people actually knew. Just a weirdo with a Satania avatar, the stereotypes do exist for a reason
>>740636889Ding ding ding
>>740638975>It was someone who went to the college that people actually knew.Either they got indoctrinated into the cult the same way, or they were being paid under the table.You'll see formerly intelligent people do all kinds of insane, humiliating things out of nowhere. Especially if they're high-ranking individuals to begin with. They get offered something they can't pass up, or blackmailed into it if they're already rich.
These threads aren't even about Persona.You guys just want to talk about gay and trans people for some reason.
>>740639106There's a ton of Persona threads up already. Just looking at the OP image would tell you it's going to be a "complain about obnoxious trannies" thread.Pick a better OP if you want a more sensible topic.
>>740639106You didn't want to talk about video games, you just wanted to post a bird you want to fuck for some reason
>>740637949They do though? Just through mental torture. The outcome is physical suicide
>>740620850with how they ruined P3 Demake I fully expect this one to be much worse
>>740621748This. The swimsuit conversation if you pick you wanna see "Kanji's" is one of the biggest tells.
>>740638494It's the monkeys with the ladder. It starts that way and becomes the norm in the group
>>740635791Adachi would demand to be a top, not because he likes it because he's too egotistical to let himself be the bottom.
>>740639269Yeah it's infectious, easy to do if you're selling it as something virtuous and kind. Or fucked up evil people clue in that they can destroy people on a personal level with that ideology by acting like it's a good thing. It snowballs because most people just follow trends.
>>740639251If you say Kanji then Yukiko should start laughing and raise SL points too
>>740637957It was as simple as taking the most boyish girl and the girliest girl and smashing them together.
The monochrome Yukiko art on the stats screen looks really cute.
>>740639567There's a very obvious question you could ask here but I'm gonna refrain. These people genuinely deserve death
>Played the original P4 at a tender age>Resonated with Kanji's arc>As faggy as it sounds, he made me realize it's okay to have feminine hobbies and interests while still being a straight male>Open up to people, they get it and are accepting>Fast forward to current year>Still feel the same way. Not even questioning my sexuality, happy with a GF who gets it too>Troons call me an egg>Gays think I'm closetedThe LGBT are a thousand times worse than the people they claim are oppressing them.
>>740639720>These people genuinely deserve deathIt's a crackship, but that's going a bit far
>>740639341What the fags don't realise is if they weeded out the bad snakes from their group. They would be more well received by the masses. Instead they double down and protect them, making them all out to be scumbags
>>740639729A lot of guys that era related to him. Especially if they were on sites like this too.
>>740639729Closest thing I have to a story like that was being a fan of global rule 15. But even then I still just kept it to myself
>>740639815The issue is that like any large group it's hard to gatekeep the wreckers out. See video games and social media.
>>740620850im okay with trannies because we're starting to see what the boys who get on the estro at 12 look like at 18 and goddamnnnnnnnnnnanons if you're in your early/mid 30s right now you NEED to get fucking huge there's so much good bussy coming your way in your 40s its unreal
>>740639884Is 4chan a feminine hobby now
>>740639106that’s every thread on /v/ thobeit
>>740639903It has been this way for gays, even before it got 'popular' they have always been a den of evil. They always had a chance
>>740635807>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THINK OF THE GAMING COMPANIES>you mean the ones we've spent ages saying are irredeemable garbage that should shut down?>and the trannies are corrupting them further so they produce flop after flop and shut down>based trannies>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT>I NEEEEEEEEEED MY SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>740625054Unironically how dark is your skin?
>>740620850Hopefully they just keep the dialogue the same, chaning Naoto or Kanji's dialogue would entirely undermine the whole point of their character arcs.
>>740621089Yosuke always acted more gay than Kanji ever did. His comical homophobia makes way more sense if he was closeted desu.
>>740635778This, the wokealizer tranfiction will do it 100%
>>740640086Men of old would not consider listening to Hatsune Miku while playing anime games manly
>>740640136Lurk harder nigger, you can't even greentext properly
>>740640173Faggots like you don't realize making fun of gays has always been universally funny for straights. There's no hidden meaning behind it. It's the same as making fun of fat people
>>740639729I'm quite glad that I was born a couple years before all this nonsense took off because even though I had to accept too that I'll never be a man's man either, it also never occured to me that I should turn this atypicality into some sort of cope persona, either, or that I should try to fashion false virtues out of my vices.I mostly feel like a chimera because I don't care for either the dudebros or the faggy guys, either, I find that neither really fit my sense of aesthetics or how I feel as a man.
>>740640086This has always been a site for outcasts. Gamergate and the 2016 election kinda changed that with a bunch of normies flooding in since this was the only place you were allowed to express the right wing opinion on those topics. So now we have a bunch of right-leaning normies. Before the political stances of this board was libertarian if anything and more or less amounted to "don't tell me what to do". Fox News called us far left in 2008 for the exact same belligerence we've always had.
>>740640461Felt. I'm just an average dude and comfortable with that. Crazy how that fact mind breaks random mfers that have no business sticking their nose into my life, but its happened several times in my life.
>>740635196He's an annoying asshole that cries about not getting pussy
>>740639173even if he did at least that would be video games
>>740620850>Pertroona
>>740621435POLAND MENTIONEDPOLSKA GUROM
>>740635196He's fine, I can't say he's a favorite though. Extremely believable gifted kid who burnt out in like 6th grade and is a directionless goof now archetype though, I can think of probably a couple dozen Yosukes throughout my life.
>>740640802Was Yosuke even gifted? He just had rich parents who owned the local not-Walmart. He had a bit of conflict about whether or not that's ruining their small town, but that gets brushed aside pretty quickly.
>>740640285hey faggot, go play the game before talking about itYosuked doesn't make fun of gays, he acts nervous around the subject
>>740640679This is what we should really be talking about.
>>740640986Chief is best girl, so I've never had to worry about interfering.
>>740640986>Chief is best girl
>>740640285Yosuke can’t even sleep in a tent with another dude without loudly exclaiming how he’s afraid of getting raped. Dude’s projecting hard as fuck.
>>740641070
>>740635094>the TV is a reflection of other people's assumptions about the personThis doesn't make sense for Naoto, Chie, and Yukiko's shadows.
Should I replay P4 vanilla, bros? It's been 10 years.
>>740640875Another staple of a straight chad. Talk too sincerely around a fag and they think you want their dick. They are sex pests
>>740640986If they kissed would it be gay
>>740641207>More cope from a fagHe's just stupid, not gay. Too dumb to realize Kanji isn't gay
>>740638690I like to think, in our final moments on this earth, we’ll remember all the good times we had instead of just the regrets
>>740641261Tell the writers
What is P4 even about. P5 you're a bunch of kids taking on some patience cabal and they're trying to get/stop you.
>>740641632there's a killer among us and that's about it
>>740641632it's literally jojo part 4
>>740641632Scooby Doo
>>740641632Murder mystery
>>740639106kazooie!!!!
>>740641632>>740641804This, it's a pseudo-realistic (emphasis on the pseudo) take on Diamond Is Not Crash
>>740641261>NaotoEveryone saw her as the ultra cool detective dude persona she was putting on.>YukikoShe's the local yamato nadeshiko. Everyone thinks she'll do the proper housewife thing and find a proper husband and then be the silent beauty who runs the place>ChieI'll be honest I don't really remember Chie's shadow.
>>740640285>>740639106
>>740641928Chie's shadow is about being envious of Yukiko for being the feminine woman that she could never be.
>>740641928>>740642012You don't see Chie's shadow on the midnight channel, she just encounters her on the way to Yukiko who got a midnight channel broadcast
>>740626102>>740626158This literally kills 41% of troons
>>740641730So how do personas and the metaverse come into play?
>>740625054If only trannies actually killed themselves at the rates they claimed to.>>740621614literally me
>>740642012>>740642092Alright well that still tracks. Chie worries people perceive her as less of a woman because of her tomboy personality. And maybe to some extent they do, but probably not to the extent she worries about.
>>740641928Pretty sure Chie's shadow was basically just her inferiority complex. She was envious/jealous towards Yukiko because she was from a rich, high class family + was more traditionally feminine and beautiful. That, and it was also in part her shadow selfs belief that she was 'taking advantage' of Yukiko's friendship since the only thing Chie liked about her was that Yukiko was weak/shy and needed to rely on Chie for protection and friendship.
>>740641261>>740641928I always though Chie's shadow made the most sense.If the most popular girl in school hung out with some bland tomboy that constantly got overlooked by her much prettier friend, I would also assume that the tomboy would be extremely jealous despite her acting like she doesn't care about the lack of attention.Now the stuff about the shadow saying she only hangs out with Yukiko because having the girl under her heel is the only thing that gives her self-worth is a bit beyond that, but everything else about the shadow reasonably checks out.
>>740638690I’ll will never understand artists who seethe over a popular creation. This applies to everything like music, movies etc. be grateful anything you made at all got attention.
Do beta girls IRL usually feel resentful of the alpha bitch of their friend circle, like Chie did with Yukiko?
>>740635094>It is explicitly said later in the game that the image that comes up on the TV is a reflection of other people's assumptionsAre you that guy that posted this theory last thread? Nobody in the town thinks Kanji is gay. The Midnight Channel reflections that happen before people get tossed in are completely separate mechanisms to someone's actual shadow coming out of them. Everyone in town thinks Kanji is a delinquent biker-killer, not a gay. All that shit about girly perception is just Kanji's own insecurities.
>>740642245If Chie didn't face that part of herself directly, she probably would've grown up to intentionally keep Yukiko down and make her feel lesser in order to keep her reliant on Chie, since that's the only power she really felt she had. And Chie is one of my favorite characters, but she would have turned out awful if that was allowed to fester.
>>740642403Jealousy is definitely real, especially among teenage girls. I wouldn't describe Chie and Yukiko like that though. It's more like they're good friends, but they both see traits in the other they wish they had.
>>740642403Maybe not outright resentful but it'd be hard not to feel kind of envious/jealous of a friend who is way more beautiful and talented than you are. Especially if you're a teenager who's crazy teen brain makes everything seem like a way bigger deal than it actually is.
>>740642403>Do beta girls IRL usually feel resentful of the alpha bitch of their friend circleI keep in contact with one of my female cousins and she will vent to me sometimes and say some heinous shit about her best friend that she's been close with for decades.
>>740637390Nice headcanon, but let's stick with facts.
>>740642405No, I'm not the guy you're talking about. But I posted evidence of the game explicitly stating it here >>740641613
>>740639729>The LGBT are a thousand times worse than the people they claim are oppressing them.That's the entire left side of the political spectrum.
>>740642610Right, and that picture is true, the midnight channel creates an image of what its nearby collective-unconscious is thinking. When more (powerful) unconsciousness are thinking it, the stronger and more powerful and vivid the image becomes. So that actually makes sense that 8 really powerful persona-users thinking the same thought would cause the midnight channel of the nearby TV to display a strong image of what their collective-unconsciousness were all thinking at that moment.Something it doesn't mean (and the debate I got into the guy I was talking about) is that the collective-unconsciousness changes anyone's actual shadow or the forms they take. The killer's "shadow" on the TV wasn't actually the killer's real shadow, it was just the Midnight Channel's effect.
>>740642403>be Chee>Your best friend is the most popular girl in the school who's from a rich family that runs the most notable spot in town and you constantly have to sit in the cuck chair and watch every guy in the school hit on her while you apparently don't exist>Another girl joins the friend group and she's a fucking famous Idol with superstar looks, she eventually returns to the business and becomes famous across Japan>The last girl that joins is a 300IQ super genius detective prodigy, also turns out that she has the biggest tits in the groupsuffering bro
>>740642778Best part:>At the end of the game when you get the victory lap where you get to run around town and talk to all the NPCs and catch up where they are on their life, Chie's is the only character, who is both a party member AND a social link, where even at link 10, she doesn't get a full on cut-scene animated with voice lines, and instead just has a generic text bubble pop up and that's itlol. Couldn't be my waifu.
>>740635059This anon is completely right.The LGBT retard shit took tomboys away and goth girls away. And even though they screech 'GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT' they make DAMN sure to follow that construct like fucking sheep for some reason.
>>740642405Shadow Kanji talks about how girls used to make fun of him when he was younger and in his social link he talks about how a girl thought he was weird for knitting a doll for her, those people probably still think he’s strange somewhat even if it’s just in the back of their minds
>>740620850Serves them right for including the cancer known as (((bisexual))) representation.>Extreme Omnisexual: After getting a human body, Teddie tries to "score" with anyone he sees, be they male or female. He flirts mostly with the girls, but he also displays an attraction to Yu and even puts the moves on Nanako at one point (though he chooses to wait until she's older).Avoid any video game series with at least one installment featuring that garbage.
>>740634534How the fuck she hide those bonkers
>>740642778Yeah even with her facing her shadow, the girl must still have an inferiority complex the size of a house.
>>740620850>already using the new portraitsBAKA my head to be desu
>>740642927>>740642927>After getting a human body, Teddie tries to "score" with anyone he sees, be they male or female. He flirts mostly with the girls, but he also displays an attraction to Yu and even puts the moves on Nanako at one point (though he chooses to wait until she's older).omega based Teddie
>>740642778Yeah, I find it kinda funny that Chie and Kanji are like the only normal people in the entire investigation team.>NarukamiHe's Chad Ziodynecock>YosukeMega privileged.>YukikoMega privileged, very conventionally attractive>KanjiHis parents own a textile shop, but it's kinda circling the drain due to Junes>RiseLiteral pop star.>NaotoLOL>TeddieUhhhhh......
If shadow tv world is also peoples assumptions it quite seriously ruins the lesson of accepting yourself. Maybe it can shape the tv world, but it can NOT effect your own shadow. If it does that makes the entire game pointless. It pounds it into your head that you have to accept even the parts of yourself you dont like. If other people's perspective also effected your shadow then it actually means "lmao just accept what everyone looks as you as, bro"
>>740642927>almost the entirety of the Type-Moon's catalogue is on the listYEAHHHH!!!
>>740642876Yeah but that happened with maybe a handful of probably forgetful kids ages ago when he was a child, whereas his entire intro into the game proper is him getting on the news for kicking an entire biker gang's ass, and his entire arc before getting into the TV is him scaring the shit out of everyone because he has every single delinquent stereotype in Japan associated with him.Even if I were to be super generous and say that the entire IT squad watching him be awkward with Naoto for 20 seconds (and it wasn't the entire squad, but I'm being generous) confirmed for them that he was totally gay plus MAYBE a total of 30-50 kids all vividly remember him being a bit fruity and thus 100% gay, yhou're talking about like at best 55 people thinking he's gay vs the entire greater region of Inaba + probably the next town over + probably any town associated with that biker gang in the slightest thinking and seeing him as a delinquent. That would massively overpower the idea of the midnight channel showing a gay Kanji instead of a bully Kanji.
>>740643178The PS2 intro is something else. Chie in the elevator was incredibly moe.
>>740642778
Do not bully the Chie.
The reason Kanji's shadow presents as a super flamboyant prancing homo lala man is because of his inner complex that if he's true to himself and doesn't hide his traditionally feminine hobbies and interests then that's how the world will see him. He overcompensates in the opposite direction and presents as a super tough delinquent kid because he's so terrified of being seen that way, because that's not him. The resolution of his arc is accepting that it doesn't matter if people see him that way because that's just not who he is and other people's prejudices don't define his character.
>>740642927LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
>>740643178NTA but I guess it depends on how widespread the midnight channel rumour was, I don't remember if it's stated. If it's limited to mostly Inaba students, that could be impacting it.
What was the implication behind Shadow Kanji having a move that poisons male party members and another one which enrages female ones?
>>740634991they're not beating the autism allegations. The whole thing really feels like a confused fixation on systematizing, when you get down to it.>bro, I like 60% girl things, and that means I'm 60% a girl!Yeah, that's not how that works.
Bisexuality is fine if it's between two women. Only men can be faggots.
>>740643501The "ackshually" answer to that is "the collective unconscious around the region", so it's implied to include the whole regional area, but I think you have have localized instances of it (the hospital scene) and probably even cover a region outside of Inaba in general.
>>740643509Kanji hates women.
>>740643553No, (((bisexuality))) can never be fine, no matter the gender of the person.There's nothing wrong with being cisgender heterosexual, gay or lesbian; or with being transgender or non-binary, for the record.
What if Adachi was a hot girl?
>>740643673P6 should have a femcel.
>>740642959She's a detective, bro
>>740643670Yeah but like, have you never thought about how bangin' it would be if two chicks made out on your bellend?
>>740643840that's gay bro
P4 is shit bro
built for handholding and lots of kisses
>>740643987ok yousgay
picking up naoto and treating her like an onahole
>>740644138Mean.
>>740641936Don't care furfag
This ending pisses of rainbow people.
>>740642403Fuck yes. Girls are constantly playing that social game
>>740642778and yet, Chie fanart was what sold me on trying this series out
>>740644337Best ending
>>740643539Not to mention the tranny pipeline of>If I really like girls, then I'll really like being a girl!Autism is one hell of a drug
My assumption was that the TV shadows are the character’s insecurities but exaggerated so as to be entertaining to an audience of bored people watching TV. That’s why all the shadows that fully manifest on the midnight channel act like they’re in some sort of reality show and talking to an audience. It’s like watching a celebrity biopic. You don’t watch it for the accuracy, you watch it for the myth
>>740644429
>>740620850>man is gay for a crossdresserhappy pride month
>>740644562true
>>740644562based
>>740644523Basically when a real shadow was in the TV, what the people were viewing was the real shadow displaying through the Midnight Channel in a manner that is designed to harass the victim into denying them even more. As the victim denies the shadow, it grows more powerful/berserk and can up the ante. That's why Chie and Yousuke's shadows, which had just come out pretty much that second, were just them ranting at the characters.
>>740644429Salaryman Kanji still looks mega cursed.
>>740640986>tag: netorare
>>740634991Pink used to be a masculine colour until very recently, though.
>>740642778>be chad (You) Narukami>see tomboy girl that sits right next to you in class>she wears a green sweater and likes kung fu movies>doesn't even try to look pretty but is still effortlessly cute>isn't interested in playing little girl games, just likes to kick ass and eat beef bowls with you>easily will eat more than you can but she's so active she has a six pack>buy her some new shoes from Tanakas Amazing Commodities and she uses them to kick shadows in the face>isn't really anyone special and doesn't need to be, still fights for the truth just like (You) do>fights tooth and nail harder than anyone in the IT to protect (You)>loves the way you smell>is sweaty>has the cutest kimono both times>has the cutest swimsuit>has the sweetest and most pure Valentines date where she tells you how much she treasures the fact that you chose the ordinary girl over the "prettier" and more "popular" girls>has the best glow-up in the epilogue>positioned right in front of Narukami during both endingsChee wife is best wife.
>>740644981>that picI don't think it is possible compliment the way someone smells without coming off creepy. Especially if it is man to woman rather than woman to man.
>>740621089I seriously don't understand why american always make everything about sex.
>>740645086Everything is about sex directly or indirectly.
>>740645059You've never been in a loving relationship? When I was a teenager, I was obsessed with the way my gf smelled in all her various places and she very often told me that she liked my armpits, or the smell of my dick after riding on it.
>>740645086Puritanical culture. They have an unhealthy relationship with sex. Either it isn't spoken of, or people whiplash and make it their entire identity.
>>740645127I can't believe people would reply to someone posting that kanji screenshot "I'm just scared shitless of being rejected" with something that completely contradicted the replied image.
>>740633737>i-its not canon!
>>740635818>copehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXE96FuhiOchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ogh3mdPHsA
>>740645398It's either that or they just cope by saying>it's my headcanonI genuinely wish death upon half of all people who play Persona 4
Yukiko Amagi is wearing a KIMONO because she's FILLING IN for her MOM at the INN THEY RUN
>>740644838and?
>>740645728I bet she wears it improperly. Chie, Kanji, and the others are all bad influences
>>740637178>but back in the dayyes, back when persona wasn't a normalfag series>inb4in terms of general gamer culture
>>740639729Im gay
>>740620850There's no discussion. Nu-Atlus going to rewrite this scene. Kanji is gay, and Naoto is trans. Enough said.
>>740647612You're a massive retard for thinking so. Then again you're most likely some /v/tard who only just learned of this series
>>740638609>holy cow dudeholy hecking redditerino!
>>740647670Kek go suck on SEGA woke tranny dick lmao
>>740647612>Naoto is transThose words alone are doing more damage to people's wellbeing than any transphobe ever could
>>740622261>>740624068>>740625054It's true tho
>over a hundred new fanart of Marie since the trailer
>>740632813Wouldn't be surprised if they rewrote Yosuke as well to consider Yu as a "second love"
>>740639729Yep, that's why it doesn't matter what quack orgs like the WHO say, faggotrannyism is and always will be a mental illness.>>740647475I hope they find a cure one day.
>>740647612That scene stuck out like a sore thumb, teenage boys are retards and if there's a hot but weird chick offering sunscreen massages and possibly more her going off about how the sun is a government conspiracy isn't going to dissuade morons like stupei.
>>740647612>scene is unironically worse now since they gave he's voiced now and they gave him a really manly voice making him even more repulsive but they dipshits throwing a fit over it didn't even bother to play the game so they're still complaining about it like a bunch of asshats.
>>740648630>I hope they find a cure one day.for AIDS? I don't have it cuz I don't whore myself around
>>740649072Wont hurt to get vaccinated though. You never know.
>>740649149they have an AIDS vaccine?!
>>740640986I mean, I steered clear from Naoto just to respect Kanji, but my man was so fucking slow. I wouldn't have done it today.I went for Chie instead.
>>740649182AIDS is what you get after you let the HIV virus fester in your body. And yes, there is an HIV vaccine. It lasts a year.
>>740649247oh cool. I always dozed off in sex ed becuz it was boring af
>>740649289Oh you realized early on you'd never get any?
>>740642778Well but Chie is a cute tomboy so she wins.
>>740649367quality > quantity my friend
>>740649289It's new. There is also PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis), a course of medication that can be taken before engaging in sexual activity and has been proven to be highly effective at preventing HIV transmission. In addition, HIV/AIDS has changed from a fatal disease to a manageable chronic condition. Modern treatments are so effective that when a person with HIV, the virus is not transmitted sexually.
>>740647612Why would Naoto's plotline, that had nothing to do with her sexuality, suddenly have everything to do with her sexuality?You do know that the only character in the game that had insecurities with his sexuality was Kanji, right? Naoto was crossdressing for an entirely different reason.
>>740649605Ahaha, those billions were very well spent on developing all that for the sake of faggots instead of, I don't know, cancer research.
>>740649914its not a zero sum game, anon
I dont understan new v
Attempting to subvert gender norms so strongly only ends up strengthening them.Seeing a young woman that feels that she needs to be a man in order to be respected and treated like a professional and simply saying "Okay you're a boy now" is exceedingly misogynistic and misses the entire point of why Naoto crossdressed in the first place. Kanji stresses himself out immensely trying to put on an overly macho persona and to hide his softer side as he feels like people will think he's gay and ostracize him for it, he feels a lack of control in the way he's perceived socially and lashes out because of it because he's in an emotional and social minefield, boiling him down to nothing but "he loves penis and naoto's trans boypussy, it's his only character trait" is the exact reductive thinking that he was spiralling into that the gang helps him get out of.
>>740650041It is though? Money going into cancer research cannot go into AIDS research and vice versa.
>>740649914eat a dick
>>740650128not really because the people researching cancer treatments are not the same people researching AIDS treatments>but fundingunrelated. its like saying the money used to pave roads could have gone to cancer research instead.
>>740650237>not really because the people researching cancer treatments are not the same people researching AIDS treatmentsThat's actually even MORE evidence that it's a zero sum game. The resources, including the people/researchers, going into cancer cannot also go into the resources for AIDs. You're making more of my point for me.>its like saying the money used to pave roads could have gone to cancer research instead.It literally could have, what are you talking about?
>>740621538>Kanji's story is about accepting that he's a bit gay.No. It's about accepting that having hobbies that are traditionally considered "girly" doesn't make you any less of a man.
>>740650339do you know how governments fund things?
>>740650378Theft.
>>740620850do you think they'll actually make her a tranny this time? they had that homo pin during one of the trailers a few years ago
>>740647612/v/'s seething about the modification of this scene will forever be funny>nooooooo how dare you replace a tranny with a beautiful woman!!!!!! Give muh tranny back
>Forgetting about PicrelShame on you.
>>740650612>reddit spacing
>>740650639>NOOO YOU CAN'T FORMAT TEXT TO BE LEGIBLE IT HAS TO BE ONE BIG BLOCK OR YOU'RE REDDIT AAAAAA
>>740650737>blockIt's called a paragraph, dipshit.
>>740650737nta but you are a brown tranny
>>740641456>Talk too sincerely around a fagSo, then, around who was Yosuke talking "too sincerely"?
>>740622261Cats out of the bag, little nigga. Enjoy your Bridget threads.
>>740650880Yosuke isn't gay.
>>740634507pic rel>>740635196I like him, but it probably helps that I didn't play the English dub. I would have probably hated him, and some of other IT members too if I didn't play in Japanese.
I don't know what this thread is about but chuds lost
>>740620850People need to stop giving retards' opinions on twitter any weight
>>740650795Paragraphs have spaces between them.
>>740650596You're missing the point. The scene in the original goes something like:>The boys picking up chicks>One of the girl turns out to be a dude due to the adams apple>Everyone was like "wtf she's a dude?" and gtfo due to disgustThey're clearly mocking transfolx; Even if the face and the body pass, no straight men wants to fuck a trans women. Not to mention that the troon was written to be a sex pest from flirting and soliciting young boys for sex.The problem isn't the removal of the scene, but the reason why they removed the scene in the first place. The scene was about making fun of the freak (fairly common anime trope), but they removed it due to fear of offending the actual western trannies playing their game. If they're willing to compromise and removed that joke in the P3R, it's fairly probable for them to remove all kinds of "offensive" shit in P4R as well. Such as:>Hanako / Making fun of fat people>Crossdressing Pageant / Making fun of crossdressers / troons>Yosuke and Yu being disgusted of gays
>>740644838Not true
>>740650938Read my question again. Slowly.
>>740652183Just look at movies from the 80s, dude.
They need to make Naoto flat. No other changes are necessary.
>>740652916Gaaaay.
>>740652916Fuck you.
>>740642959breasts are infinitely compressible
>3D
