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When did he go from "I did it for gamers"
to
"I did it for yachts"
???
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leave gaben alone. he's trying to build a IRL subnautica base.
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>no you are not allowed to spend any of the money you make, reeeeee
why is /v/ like this
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>>740628327
>When did he go from "I did it for gamers"
Did what for the gamers? Killed off physical and thus the concept of ownership and first sale doctrine? introduced lootboxes and gambling cancer? Popularised the cinematic setpiece corridor FPS with unskippable pseudocutscenes?
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>>740628327
portal 2
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>>740628827
Did he not contribute anything positive to video games? Was he just interested at business side of things just like his Microsoft days?
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>>740628827
>Nooooo, why aren't you letting me accumulate a bunch of useless discs that will start rotting before I even have a chance to pass it on to my kids
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>>740628654
>>740629061
You will never be a billionaire
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shaming billionaires for consooming is actually libtarded and bluepilled¨
>but why he dont gib charity and solve everything?
because the state should be taking his money and doing that.
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>>740629263
Okay? This thread is about him not spending money on vidya and instead spending it on retarded yachts. No one would complain if he funded kino games with his billions.
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>>740628327
You know the "yacht" is actually a research vessel, right?
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>>740628827
Physical is worthless if the game requires an online connection for any reason, including patches.
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>>740628327
the guy making these threads trying to character assassinate gaben is either chinese, indian, or russian, btw.
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>>740629357
it's for tax reasons. You don't know anything about research.
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>>740628827
Would you rather have someone else do it first? EA? Microsoft? We were going this route either way now that everyone and their children play video games, doomscroll, and watch movies online.

Plus if I had physical copies of every game I bought on steam I wouldn't have any space in my room. And if I really wanted to I can just pirate and save it on a drive.
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>>740629573
>Would you rather have someone else do it first? EA? Microsoft?
Unironically yes. I don't get how Valve is considered a not so bad outcome when it was one of the worst outcomes considering they stopped giving a shit about video games and just leeched the industry for 2 decades while evading anti trust, anti competitive, anti consumer laws like mosquitos. Any other company would be unable able to maintain pc store monopoly this long. They wouldn't kill the pc gaming like Valve did either.
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>>740628327
Right after the gamers gave away ownership on PC.
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Buying a yacht is like the dumbest, most shallow rich person thing to do.
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>>740629016
>Did he not contribute anything positive to video games?
Seeing the record? Not really. Only chance of redemption is giving 99% of his money to Linux to evolve and just give them the cash, no strings attached
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>>740628327
Its his money that we gave him....
Why don't you make a thread about your own finances so we can laugh at you?
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>>740628327
"I did it ALL FOR THE NOOKIE"
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>>740628327
he was always rich, hope this helps
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>>740629925
Stop the larp, if you had billions would you really spend it on fucking yachts? LAAAAME
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What would you buy if you were a mega-billionaire?
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>>740629357
Google what an actual research vessel looks like you blithering retard.
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>>740630009
If I had billions I'd spend it on whatever I want and you'd make threads crying about it
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>>740630142
But you wouldn't spend it on yachts
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>Would you rather have someone else do it first? EA? Microsoft? We were going this route either way
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You expect someone worth that much money to live in a $200k house or something?
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>>740628327

Well over a decade ago when he started saying shit like "Actually money is how the community steers work."

Guy sold you all out up the river a long time ago. People still can't catch up.
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>>740630181
I don't like the ocean so probably not, but if I did like the ocean I probably would. I spent enough time out to see on fishing boats to never want to sit atop water
Inb4 some oceancel tells me that a yacht is way different to a fishing boat, I don't care
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it's always been both, and that's why I'm buying him another yacht
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>>740628827
You clueless fags are hilarious.
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>>740628327
Doesn't matter he does it for if he makes the right decisions.
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>>740628327
what do you care what he does with his money
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>>740629401
This freak could be all 3
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>>740630009
Stop the cap. You would absolutely buy yachts and super luxurious deep sea submarines
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I don't care, he provides a good service so he can do with the money he makes from it whatever he wants.
There are so many billionaires to be upset about, at least this one is just chilling on his boat instead of destroying society.
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>>740630068
I'd build my own private racetrack where I race souped up shitboxes from the 90s and early 2000s
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>>740631595
this
bill gates is just destroying climate and making vaxx to destroy humanity but we are supposed to be upset because gabe is in a yatch doing whatever?
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>>740631352
You are fucking cringe dude. I'll never take accusations of sony/nintendo customers being cultists seriously, definitely not from this fucking board.
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>>740628327
Ever since he realized how fun it is to pilot one of these badboys in sewage
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>>740630142
>wasting money
Nah, yatchs are for pretentious faggots selling smoke about their wealth. I'd buy a jet; that shit is actually useful for transportation.

>>740631606
And also investing in a MotoGP team.
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>>740631746
Now you're definitely baiting.
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>>740631813
If you don't want to waste money, the smart thing is to share or rent a jet. You get all the private flying at a tiny fraction of the cost. Actual private jets are a huge money pit that is just as much showing off as a yacht.

Personally, I'd get a train. You can put so much shit into a train compared to a plane, and no one gives you shit for it relative to a yacht.
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Gamers and yachts are not so different
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>>740631352
>steamie cultist has arrived the chat
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>>740628827
EA introduced lootboxes thoughbeit, zoomzoom
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>>740631908
Unlike yatchs, jets are far more useful and versatile so ownership is the way to go.

>Personally, I'd get a train. You can put so much shit into a train compared to a plane, and no one gives you shit for it relative to a yacht.
The problem is the time of the travel.
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>>740628327
day 1
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>>740628327
>I did it for gamers"
Literally never happened. He has been a blight on pc gaming as a platform. Cant wait until he is an even more bloated carcass.
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>>740632053
> Unlike yatchs, jets are far more useful and versatile so ownership is the way to go.
It's still gonna sit in the hangar costing money while providing utility 99% of the time. It's like a car that you drive five days per year. Just rent.
> The problem is the time of the travel.
When you're a billionaire, you don't wait for people. People wait for you.
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Why is it always yachts with rich fucks? Why don't they ever use their wealth selflessly?
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>>740631983
>ESL has squatted to shit in the street
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>>740632053
Is not súper expensive to own a train???
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>>740632139
People who would do that don't get rich.
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>>740628827
I mean if steam didn't push for digital games your old floppies and shit would just be usless cup coasters at this point.
absolutely not defending the fake ownership licensing stuff but its not like physical hardware was a completely infallible method either
pretty sure maplestory or some chink shit invented the lootbox too what with the asian's love of those wacky gachapon machines
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Say it.
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>>740628327
I dont get the millionaires and boats thing.
>YO MY LUXURY HOUSE BUT ON A BOAT WHERE I COULD DROWN AND SHIEEET
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>>740628327
You don't know it yet, but he's buying all these yachts for us. When he's ready he's gonna email every Steam user an invite to live in his mobile gamer yacht utopia.
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>>740632285
Nobody likes you Timmy go away
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>>740632285
I apologize
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>>740628327
right from the beginning reminder Half life 2 required steam to play
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>>740632285
Same fucking face lol
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>>740632285
Eat gayben's whole ass.
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>>740632318
And if you're caught with an Epic account you're walking the plank.
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>>740632285
i always knew, tim
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>>740628827
>introduced lootboxes and gambling cancer
He did not. He DID introduce battle passes

Although it is still worth hating him for TF2
>spend a year conditioning players into putting hats on a pedestal
>now add MTX into a paid game
>have lootboxes with rare super duper hats
>have cash shop with fucking PAY-TO-WIN HATS
Should've been crucified for that, but steamies sucked it down
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>>740628327
Go fuck yourself, Tim Sweeney. With the exception of ONE yacht, the other 4 yachts are all oceanographic research vessels.
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>>740632183
Nah. Expensive to buy, yes. For a luxury train you'd probably put down 20-50 million. But trains are relatively resilient in terms of storage and need less maintenance than planes or yachts, plus they're comparatively cheap to operate because it's just a very efficient form of travel.
The real downside is gauge. If you want to go somewhere, it has to be the same rail network.
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>>740632274
>I mean if steam didn't push for digital games your old floppies and shit would just be usless cup coasters at this point
Nothing's actually stopping me from copying that floppy.
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>>740632132
>It's still gonna sit in the hangar costing money while providing utility 99% of the time. It's like a car that you drive five days per year.
>not owning the small hangar
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>>740632418
Even before that, remember them killing retail Half-Life with no standalone multiplayer patch so you had to move to Steam
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He made the best PC storefront in history and no one has come close to providing anything better. Treat your customer well and they will give you money. Notice how there are a billion threads attacking Steam and rarely the other way around? Man deserves his success and people are mad that there is a subset of consumers who are being taken care of in this DOGSHIT industry. You can always stick with Games for Windows Live and Ubiconnect if Steam is that awful towards you as a customer.

>b-but physical
I for one HATED having to type in that dumbass key whenever I installed Sim City 4. I feel like the people who complain about a lack of physical PC market are consolefags who weren't actually the for the on-disc DRM that most games had. Good riddance.
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i'm enraged at the thought that some people do more than one thing
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>>740632520
if i fit a sunroof on my porsche is it an astronomical device?
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>>740632132
>When you're a billionaire, you don't wait for people. People wait for you.
Nothing to do with people, anon... trains are slow commute

>>740632183
Very, express speed is out of the question because of it
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>>740632605
>the solution to avoiding hangar rent is to build a hangar, which you have to pay for and maintain
That does not sound like a good decision.
>>740632664
Yeah, and people can wait for me while I take my time commuting to them in style.
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>>740632524
it's called standard gauge for a reason, ivan
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>>740632140
>muh ESL
Already coping the drone, huh?
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>>740629725
>I don't get how Valve is considered a not so bad outcome
People have had EA Origin and Ubisoft's shit store actually installed on their machines and know what it could have been like.
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>>740628327
The same time that you started creating these awful threads.
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>>740632516
>now add MTX into a paid game
and then it went F2P less than a year later
>have lootboxes with rare super duper hats
you can ignore the lootbox entirely by just buying it off of another player that WANTED to gamble.
>have cash shop with fucking PAY-TO-WIN HATS
which hats?
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>>740632724
>let's call it standard gauge even though less than half the world uses it
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>>740632721
>That does not sound like a good decision.
Warehouses are cheap as fuck to build, anon.

>people can wait for me while I take my time commuting to them in style
>slow as fuck travel
I lapped you on my jet 2 times by then.
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>>740632726
>phhhbttbbt
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>>740632852
>I lapped you on my jet 2 times by then.
Good job, you're still gonna wait until I pull in at the station.
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>>740632651
>He made the best PC storefront in history
GOG has a better client and selection, and the client is optional so I can instead use even better ones, so they rape and gape Gabe
>You can always stick with Games for Windows Live and Ubiconnect if Steam is that awful towards you as a customer.
UbiConnect is actually better as a store and games client, teee-beeeee-aytch. They just don't have the selection.
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>>740632762
>know what it could have been like
It's an appetizer for what's to come
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>>740632516
Why do you care so much about games you never played? Mobile games were exploding at the time and most big games were introducing mtx. Valve didn't invent or even pioneer mtx: it was huge on steam because the installbase of steam is bigger than every major console combined
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>>740628827
>Popularised
>s
It's always non-American "people" bitching about Valve. It's as if they're poor and jealous of gamers.
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>>740632837
60% of lines use it, absolute majority, dwarfing the #2 gauge
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>>740632906
>GOG has a better selection,
ahahahahahahahaha
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>>740632880
>this is the best argument the steam patrician can come up with
Gaben truly killed pc
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>>740632906
>GOG has a better client and selection
GOG doesn't even have GOTY, and the client doesn't even have a small mode. Not to mention GOG's CDN is shit.
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>>740632837
Wtf i'm looking at cho-cho-bros
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>>740632895
No, I'm not; already went and came back home.
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>>740633056
how wide the train tracks are
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>>740632952
Sorry for being from a country whose entire rainson d'etre isn't worshipping niggers and dying for israel.
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>>740632969
Doesn't help you when most of it isn't connected. You got the Euro-Arab, the NA, and the China-Korea network, and they're fully separate.
>>740633056
Every different color uses a different rail width. Your train can only use one of them.
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>>740628327
Did you forget the whole paid mod fiasco?
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>>740628827
I can get a refund on my Steam games. If they get delisted, I can still download and play them straight from my library. That's ten times better than what we get on other services aside from GOG.
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>>740633110
damn dude those goalpoasts went by so fast i must be on the TGV
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>>740633110
>Every different color uses a different rail width. Your train can only use one of them.
>leeching over somebody else's railroads
what a poor billionare lol
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>>740633102
>>740633110
Ohh that's interesting
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>>740633068
Well you clearly weren't there to meet me then, so what's the issue? Why were you in such a rush anyways? You're a billionaire and you still can't chill out?
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>>740633106
>from an entirely brown country
>"w-we don't worship niggers!"
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>>740633205
No rush, jets are fast.
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>>740633128
The one that went absolutely nowhere?
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>>740633128
mod just means independent DLC, why shouldn't the creator get to sell it
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total niggerlibkike death btw
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>>740633276
They're working on the basis of the actual developers product and a community effort to enable modding functionality.
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>>740628327
So how much are you being paid exactly?
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>>740633402
3 rupees a week saar.
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>>740633354
if they're not infringing they're not infringing (loads of mods don't) and otherwise they'll have to agree to some kind of license, which shouldn't be terribly hard.

>a community effort
lol ok buddy
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>>740633514
Every mod worth shit is based on a community effort to expand modding beyond the scope provided by the game devs.
Of course, with people like you in charge we get flooded with a billion asset flips for a dollar each, what a great world. So much better.
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>>740633608
You sound fucking retarded. Modding support for a majority of games these days come from the devs themselves to the point where its not uncommon to see major announcements from devs regarding that support. Why are you making vacuous arguments like these? Genuine question.
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>>740633608
i'm one of the guys doing the "community effort" in several games you dumb faggot
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>DID YOU THINK I WAS GONE FOREVER?!
Let there be a HL3 announcement that it's coming out 2027, 20 years after ep 2, and have the announcement the same day Gorgeous Freeman ep 4 comes out....
Trust the plan.....
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>>740633743
Genuine question, do you actually ever mod games?
Because if you did, you'd know that even in games with extensive mod support, you need things like script extenders for the good mods.
For example, take a look at the nexus page for CP2077, sort by most downloaded. It's all resources for other mods.
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>>740633608
>community effort
>making modpacks and requiring dependencies from other mods

You grossly overestimate gamers in 2026
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>>740633252
>>from an entirely brown country
Which one is that?
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>>740633608
>>740633812
and to add a little more substance, a majority of mods are one guy, not some bizarre commie idea of communities pulling together. sometimes one or two users pitch in a fix for a personal bugbear, but the creator is still very easy to identify.

>>740633950
>libs
oh i thought you were talking about things requiring serious work, not a few shared hooks. lmao

>>740633950
only python niggers like dependencies
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>>740630009
no because i don't like water too much
i would buy a mountain and build a cool ass castle though
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>740628327
>majority in here dont know how CEOs work and why they get paid what they do and own things like they do
>instead will always go CEO bad without understanding why CEO bad
OP is a faggot
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>>740629186
>you are a moral person when you have $999,999,999.99
>if you find a penny on the floor, you are now evil
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>>740629186
Statistically they're more likely to become billionaires than you ever becoming a woman.
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what exactly about the suggestion that Steam moderate sensitive content warranted Gabe flipping his shit, becoming verbally abusive, and implicitly threatening the employment of the person who suggested it?
it does not seem like a radical suggestion.
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>>740634612
>Gabe: Find a way to let us host porn games
>Lawyer: How about we just don't do it, much easier
>Gabe: What the fuck do I pay you for
That easy, lawyer wasn't doing his job.
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>>740634612
As much as I don't want censorship in gaming, he's right; +18 games have no place in Steam but their own storefronts. That said; Gaben must put some standars for Steam, that shit is chaotic and bloated with low quality content ffs and porn games would add even more chaos to it.
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>>740634893
>As much as I don't want censorship in gaming, he's right; +18 games have no place in Steam but their own storefronts.
That's how you kill the market again. Steam is big enough that they have at least some leverage and influence when it comes to tard wrangling visa and mastercard in the public sphere. If anyone can make an actually successful and working porn game portal, it's steam.
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>>740634753
>>740634893
that was not the suggestion.
the suggestion was moderation.
they didn't do that so instead other parties stepped in and banned those things that they didn't moderate. oops gabe fucked it.
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>>740635015
>That's how you kill the market again.
No, porn games aren't games. Games are for everyone, the moment adult content is added into the equation it stops being for everyone.

>If anyone can make an actually successful and working porn game portal, it's steam.
*Valve. Like I said, out of Steam on its own place.
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>>740635128
Oh, so violent games aren't games either because they're also not for children, got it.
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>>740635015
>Steam is big enough that they have at least some leverage and influence when it comes to tard wrangling visa and mastercard
if that's true than they chose to bend over and take the cock.
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>>740635015
>If anyone can make an actually successful and working porn game portal, it's steam.
You licking the boot of the guy licking the boot.
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>>740635224
>certain kinds

You kid fucking chomos always out yourselves without failure or subtlety
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>>740635201
Violence doesn't make content adult. That's the retarded 7th generation mindset and flopped hard when the games were shallow as fuck. Sexuallity is inherently adult content.

>>740635224
It's not true; mastercard and visa won already, some tards got vocal about it. Just a tantrum that changes nothing
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>>740635437
That article is quoting Steam's policy.
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>>740628327
I don't mind if he spends the money I throw at him on yachts as long as he keeps giving me good reason to throw money at him.
That and he keeps doing the research stuff. It's genuinely been incredibly helpful from what I've read up on.
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>>740635469
>Violence doesn't make content adult.
Sure, ripping out a man's still beating heart with your bare hands? Wholesome fun for the whole family! Tiddies? AIEEEEE BAN BAN BAN
Americans, everyone.
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When he learned that hot girls love boats.
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>>740635542
>It's genuinely been incredibly helpful from what I've read up on.
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>Another daily Rothschild thread
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>>740635558
>Sure, ripping out a man's still beating heart with your bare hands? Wholesome fun for the whole family! Tiddies? AIEEEEE BAN BAN BAN
>being this retarded
Let me put it in words your stunted brain can understand:

-Violence (ripping out a man's still beating heart with your bare hands) = explicit violence (shallow spectacle for shock value with real substance)
-Sexual content = adult content

And then you; the retard mixing up bikinis and cleavage with sexual fetishes and penetration.
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>Another daily Rothschild thread
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>>740635524
Yet, you can go on steam right now and see vanillashit, furryshit, gayshit including dickgirls, and just about every other fetish.....other than fucking children and literal animals. You're not fooling anyone.
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>>740634612
he was mad that anyone would suggest he pay for the staff required to properly moderate content on his money printer.

then the payment processors generously donated their staff to do it >>740635224 so he happily gave them "janitors do it for free" status
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>>740628327
No matter what rich people say, money changes a man.
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>>740635851
Is explicit violence for everyone or not?
>>740629354
Well why don't you complain about where Valve's budget is going rather than where Gay-Ben's salary is going?
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>>740628327
You lost
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>>740636218
>Is explicit violence for everyone or not?
Yes, from a spinal chord ripped out from a blue ninja's body to a simple slapstick comedy gag. The line is drawn with sexual content.
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>>740628327
>Created always online DRM with Steam Client
>Destroyed secondary retail market by tying game CD keys to Steam Accounts
>Popularized loot boxes in the West
>Popularized gamba loot boxes in the West
>Killed flash and deep sales because people were getting games too cheap
>Sells overpriced 3+ year old hardware at a premium
>Stops making video games

GabeN was never pro gaming. The only good thing he ever did was create an efficient online game distribution system, and even that can be argued as a means to an end to fund his mega yachts instead.
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>>740636065
you seem a bit shortsighted.
he handed over control of content moderation to public boardroomed megacorporations. they will no doubt use that power to influence political outcomes.

according to the most retarded people on the internet, Steam is a strong private company that do what it want and dont answer to nobody.
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>>740636328
That's disgusting. Do you have any idea what seeing gore does to an undeveloped mind?
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>>740636473
>Do you have any idea what seeing gore does to an undeveloped mind?
Nothing, gore was born as non-serious.
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>>740628327
when the rotschilds started paying you to post here every single day
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>>740636356
Yet Steam is still the cheapest option for getting games aside from bundles and key reseller. Go figure. You were never going to buy Valve hardware, so why do you care? Or are you going to tell me you waiting 5 years and through a RAM spike was a 5d chess move that Gabe ruined for you? We are just customers. You don't HAVE to buy lootboxes either, you know? Mobile games just don't exist either, huh? It was all TF2, right?
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>>740636356
You lost. Trump won. Elon Musk and Gabe will always be billionaires.
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>>740636183
What does this alternative reality where he didn't "change" look like?
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>>740636635
least groomed post
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>>740636635
Tell that to the TLOU devs who were forced to watch LiveLeak videos. If adults struggle with it then children have no chance
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>>740633128
You mean the thing pushed by Bethesda that was then fully realized by Bethesda and is now in all of their games starting with Skyrim?
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>>740634053
Anywhere that spells "popularized" with an S.
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>>740628327
>When did he go from "I did it for gamers"
he was never this
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>>740636769
He's just mad that his overlords can't easily buy up Valve and set up a censorship apparatus.
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>>740630490
>implying it isn't
Remember CEMU?
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>>740630490
that is a factually true statement thobeit
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>>740636356
>secondary market
>aw shucks, I can't sell this 20 year old mid game for $1000

Fucking poorfag. If you care about your games, why are you selling them? On the other side, if you can't afford to spend $40-80 on your entertainment even biweekly, video games should not be on your list of things to be upset about
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>>740636797
That's not gore, that's real lifeish brutality; context is everything.
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>>740636769
As you admitted, third party resellers like GMG are actually the cheapest. And if you compare sales across PSN/Xbox stores, they are actually the same as Steam because the publisher/dev sets the price. You only see a difference with indies and smaller publishers, who give deeper discounts on Steam due to the bigger userbase.

>You were never going to buy Valve hardware
I had an LCD Deck though. Why are you projecting?
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>>740636797
tlou devs weren't really adults, though, they were redditors
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>>740629725
I know this is just bait but.
>They wouldn't kill the pc gaming like Valve did either.
Says the guy who was clearly too young to recall what the "PC gaming" market looked like before valve saved its ass.
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>>740636863
Adam Smith would not back these parasites.
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>>740637024
NTA but I sold my old PS1 and N64 games for a 100% markup. Probably could've gotten more for them if I had all the boxes in good condition too.
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>>740637164
steam is not even remotely analogous to a landlord lmao. they proactively provide a distribution service with a bunch of different benefits
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>>740636923
they didn't need to buy it. >>740635224
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>>740636356
>Created always online DRM with Steam Client
Not only is it not always online, it's also incredibly easy to bypass

>Destroyed secondary retail market by tying game CD keys to Steam Accounts
There is no world where you can have a functioning digital reselling market that developers and publishers can agree to
There's a reason digital reselling doesn't exist anywhere, it's so fucking good that it would eradicate new game sales
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>>740636769
I don't have to buy MKW for $90 either, but it doesn't change the fact it sets a bad precedent for the industry. As things become normalized, more and more developers will utilize them. Bethesda essentially pioneered cosmetic DLC and Valve made lootboxes acceptable. Both are objectively bad things for gaming even if you and I don't interact with them.
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>>740637075
Tomato tomato. Games aren't for everyone. Kids shouldn't play Mortal Kombat. They shouldn't play Grand Theft Auto. They shouldn't play Schedule 1. I can't think of any examples but they shouldn't play something where characters say fuck every 5 seconds
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>>740637150
>they were redditors
that's being generous
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>>740628827
Powerful
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>>740637353
Thank god for the EU stepping in and slapping Valve to shut that shit down. I was really tired of all those CSGO gambling sites popping up everywhere and kids dumping thousands into them for a chance at getting a million dollar knife (they never had a chance it was all rigged for friends of the guys running the sites).
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>>740637346
steam has the steam market you should be able to sell games there and give a cut to valve and the developer. Valve takes 10% of every sale and the developer 5%
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>>740637301
That's not the censorship they want. They want social justice credit score system. Visa is just against porn.
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>>740637273
Profits, rent and interest are the same thing.
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>>740637101
Then why does the price increase matter? How does that affect you if you already have a deck? I bought my lcd and OLED in 2023, and when they announced a price hike, I said "huh, sucks for those who waited." Why is it a crusade for you?

And those resellers are selling steam keys which tend to match up with steam sales. Do you see the irony in smugposting about fucking russians selling you bundle keys only with an additional 10% chance that you might get cucked out of your game with no backup if you get a bullshit key? Those resellers are wholly dependent on steam's ecosystem. Thanks for also admitting Steam is the cheapest platform out of the big 4
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>>740637346
Well before Valve came along you bought PC games via physical CD copies. I actually traded/sold some PC games this way like Sim City and Age of Empires. Now you can argue that even without Valve PC gaming would move to digital anyways, but I would argue it would've taken a lot longer to make that transition and PC gaming would've mirrored the console market for a long time before succumbing.
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>>740637517
i mean, a retarded marxist might come to that conclusion, but adam smith certainly did not
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>>740637517
only a retarded marxist, though, because even karl marx didn't agree with you
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>>740637273
steam "proactively provide a distribution service with a bunch of different benefits" in the same way my landlord "provides" electricity and water.
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>>740637391
>Tomato tomato.
No, the approach and focus is everything.

>Games aren't for everyone. Kids shouldn't play Mortal Kombat. They shouldn't play Grand Theft Auto. They shouldn't play Schedule 1. I can't think of any examples but they shouldn't play something where characters say fuck every 5 seconds
They are; they're electronic toys. btw the main audience for mortal kombat was kids. Now with GTA you'd have a point because like you've been stubborn about, context and approach being key, it's done seriously so some people dumb enough would have negative effects from its excessive fidelity in some part of it (not the getting fat or haircut though). But then again, for gta is such a tiny chance it's a non-issue and only one to literal dumb masses.

>I can't think of any examples but they shouldn't play something where characters say fuck every 5 seconds
Bullestorm? I can; it's played as a joke.
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>>740637172
>I sold my trash to retarded people so everyone should allow me to keep doing it.
ayy lmao.

also, nobody is stopping you from selling your account to someone else.
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>>740637534
>Then why does the price increase matter? How does that affect you if you already have a deck?
Because it's greedy and bad for everyone and I maybe wanted an OLED sometime in the future? Your argument is literally just
>Uh sucks for you if you didn't buy it 3 years ago
Which is comically missing the point.

>And those resellers are selling steam keys which tend to match up with steam sales.
No? Key resellers are always cheaper than steam sales. The only exception, as I stated in my post, are for smaller indie games.

Why are you going to bat for a faceless corporation and defending anti-consumer practices? So weird and brown coded.
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>>740637608
Without steam we would be gaming on 20 different storefronts pushing premium passes. What are you on about?
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>>740637608
no, it isn't, and it especially isn't in the terms of adam smith's critique of landlords, which is specifically about profiting off the unimproved value of God's creation. steam builds, develops, and maintains the hosting platform, which right off the bat makes it completely tangential to what Smith was talking about
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>>740637484
>Valve takes 10% of every sale and the developer 5%
i wonder who is behind this post.
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>>740628327
he lost so much weight despite being able to afford any fastfood he wants
YOU GOT NO EXCUSE
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>>740637631
May you never have children then
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>>740637638
Yes, I sold things I don't use anymore to recoup some money. That's how a free marketplace works.

>also, nobody is stopping you from selling your account to someone else.
What if I only want to sell one game out of the 500 on my account? Can I do that?
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>>740637484
so instead of getting 70-80% per sale they get 5% of 50%
amazing idea, tell publishers and developers you're slashing their revenue by 95% long term because you're such a fucking kike that you need to get a legal refund instead of just fucking pirating

No faggot, just pirate instead of bulldozing a working system

>>740637557
Physical isn't digital, it's way more limited and it doesn't take a genius to understand that there are no downsides to digital reselling which is why it'd completely destroy the equilibrium
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>>740637587
Never mind the important point, which is that they are analogous in their parasitism. Little ad hominem bootlicker :)
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>>740637745
Good thing that without Valve PC gaming would've stayed physical for a long time then.
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>>740637781
that was not ad hominem, i just tagged on an insult to my point. this is an ad hominem: you are literally too stupid to even know what the conversation we're having is about, and it's pitiable to watch you struggle towards coherence
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>>740637740
Why do you NEED to sell your game? So long as you can always access it across generations and devices, isn't that far more important?
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>>740637692
Landlords maintain and upgrade their properties for your use.

>>740637705
He's on ozempic, Anon. It's only now just becoming cheap enough for us plebs.
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>>740637723
I'm not having the because I'm smart enough to know why to avoid it, meanwhile others have them because they're too stupid and end up as the kind that thinks a red spot means violence translating as something "mature" because it could "damage" people lol

But I do take your hopes to heart; I'll take every shred of luck I can get. Godspeed.
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>>740637740
dude, stop being retarded, you never "bought" any game ever, you always bought licenses and they always were meant to be single use.
You can sell your steam games like you used to do back in the day by just copying the files into a thumbstick and giving it to someone.
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>>740635128
You have to be 18+ to get a credit card. Steam is literally an adult store
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>>740637870
>Why do you NEED the freedom to do whatever you want with something you paid for?
Good question, I guess it doesn't matter for cattle consoomers like yourself.
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>>740637793
yeah, enjoy your starforce and securom physical lmao
shit was worse than piracy
we're at the point where steam is so good that the best argument against it is retards crying shit isn't free
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>>740637871
yes, the landlords you describe are not the same people that Adam Smith, a man who lived just after the closing of feudalism when the term landlord meant a somewhat different thing
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>>740637698
>2008
The only thing he had right.

>>740637930
You don't need a credit card to buy on Steam.
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>>740637930
>You have to be 18+ to get a credit card
You're also suggesting that Roblox is an adult game, then.
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>>740637561
>>740637587
>>740637273
reminder vale does no work and reaps all the rewards

>Game tournaments?
>most of those including dota's TI are managed and organized by third parties which then pay a cut to valve
>cosmetic items?
>all made by modders in the workshop and then added to loot boxes
>functional game editor?
>the community actually developed multiple patches because the garbage kept crashing. they made hammer 2 and other shit in valves own wiki they link to third parties
>Functional anti cheat match making and report system in CS2?
>Faceit and other private leagues do all the work and they even charge per month money which a cut goes to valve
>game updates ?
>TF2 gets nothing, dota once a year and CS2 a couple of times at best and most of those are shit related to hats or lootboxes like in the last major tournament patch
>forum moderation
>mods in forums are either the developers or volunteers who do it for free
>Valve like every cancerous publisher aquired ips for cheap milk them to shit and then abandons them
>the worst part is that people assume that all of this is acceptable because valve are le epic heroes who care about gaming and are totally not a bunch of jews. If people turned on them and stopped doing valves job for free they would be 100% fucked
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>>740637914
You're the only retarded one here, zoomer. People were always free to resell their games. It didn't become impossible until Valve came along.

>You can sell your steam games like you used to do back in the day by just copying the files into a thumbstick and giving it to someone.
I know you wanted to throw out a quick gotcha, but you literally can't for any game with any semblance of DRM tied to your account.
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why are people who have obviously never read wealth of nations arguing with me about adam smith? what do they gain by this?
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>>740637698
Those are the current rates of the market retard

>>740637745
they could adjust the rates to whatever they can agree on. THe point is that the medium to do it is there they choose not to
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>>740637793
Is lying something that you can't help, being brown? Steam started in 2003. PC gaming was on the decline for about 6 years after that UNTIL publishers discovered Steam. Everyone was going console only because of piracy. Epic cut its teeth on PC and abandoned it. Steam showed that if you made game buying and installation easy, people would choose that over piracy. Suddenly, everyone came back to PC.
You keep making these threads and keep posting these lies, and it seems like it's an autism routine now than an actual cause (since you move the goalposts constantly).
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>>740637951
Ironically, starforce and securom got their idea from Steam.

>>740637954
I'm a different Anon. I'm just saying landlords and Steam provide the same service. Personally I'm pro-landlord and Steam.
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>>740628872
The game that popularised quirky, gay, impotent NPC dialogues instead of cutscenes I can skip. The template that has become so ubiquitous it threatens to ruin singleplayer games for the most part.
I think I'd have PoserCommunity millennial reviewers like "Yahtzee" crucified if given total unchecked game industry power.
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>>740638106
>PC gaming was on the decline for about 6 years
Proofs? Store shelves were stocked full of PC games until Steam started selling non-Valve games.
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>>740628827
When you put it that way, everything you mentioned is factually correct, regardless of one's opinion about Steam/Valve as a whole
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>>740637954
>the closing of feudalism
bold claim
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>>740638109
i just think the level of abstraction necessary to compare them is too high. the closest you can get is saying that "we'll configure these electrical switches to be in the pattern of your choosing for as long as you like" is the same as "you can physically store your stuff in my property"
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>>740638063
DRM always existed, and it isn't Steam's problem, there are tons of drm-free games on steam.
also you are the fucking zoomer here, I have been gaming since computers didn't even had hard-drives and physical copies always SUCKED hard.
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>>740638207
you guys really got nothing but hyper retarded attempts at gotchas, huh
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>>740638030
I don't know a thing about Roblox but I assume you don't need a credit card to play it
>>740637975
You still need an adult account, and to choose to disable the adult filter to access adult content so the whole thing is moot
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>>740638039
also

>making shows and expanding the games univereses like riot does with league of legends?
>Valve doesn't do shit even tho they could totally do it hte only one dota cartoon was funded by a saudi
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>>740628827
Incredibly based, zoomers will seethe at you for telling the truth. I remember having to install Steam just to play CS and being annoyed that I had to have DRM on my PC to play a game I owned. The friends list also didn't work for like three years.
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>>740638168
Bull fucking shit dude
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>>740637860
Simp more for unearned income. Gabe is not your friend. :)
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>>740638168
Show me the PC versions of Gears of War 2 and 3. Show me the PC version of Mercenaries. Mass Effect was broken on release and needed at least one patch due to game breaking UI errors (after it came out 6 months later). Shit was dire in the 360 era.
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>>740638039
If Valve doesn't do anything then why don't devs do the nothing themselves?
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>>740636151
Notice how this KIKE didn't say that the "other parties" are payment processors? When the fuck should payment processors EVER decides what you buy and dont buy, let alone ENTERTAINMENT. Holy fuck I cant wait until Israel gets GLASSED.
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>>740638273
>You still need an adult account
This must be a new thing.
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>>740638091
There are no acceptable rates for game reselling you fucking idiot
They will ALWAYS be a downgrade to just not allowing reselling
Again, just fucking pirate
You know what would happen if you allowed reselling? Every game suddenly starts using DRM that ties games to your hardware specifically and we're back to square one

>>740638109
Steam was not invasive, physical DRM of back then was way fucking worse
Now use your imagination and think how bad it would've gotten if steam hadn't frozen the standard for DRM in place
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>>740638063
How were you selling physical games with single use product keys?
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>>740634893
>he's right; +18 games have no place in Steam
I don't know if you realize this but a lot of games with gratuitous violence are +18 in most of the world.
Stuff like Call of Duty would have to go if you did this.
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>>740637975
>2008
>The only thing he had right.
The irony of this famous quote is he was only talking about his plans to expand into the Russian market. The second he was done with that he implemented DRM.
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>>740638298
He's baiting, dude.
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>>740638275
>>740638039
also also

>reviewing and curating games added to steam?
>at first they had a system called greenlight in which the community did all the work for them
>they took it down but didn't replace it with anything
>now you can add the games by just paying $100
>20k games were added in one year
>at least 6+ had malware in them
>the fbi has a dedicated site where you can report steam games that had malware
>some other games are asset flips that mysteriously get buyers who pay $100s which is probably money laundering


>>740638342
what do you mean
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>>740638443
>There are no acceptable rates for game reselling you fucking idiot
>They will ALWAYS be a downgrade to just not allowing reselling
>Again, just fucking pirate
>You know what would happen if you allowed reselling? Every game suddenly starts using DRM that ties games to your hardware specifically and we're back to square one
Don't give a shit my point stands if they wanted to do it they could make it work, in the end valve would make less money which si the root of the problem
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>>740638475
I mean why are they even paying Valve for doing nothing instead of doing it themselves?
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>>740628827
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>>740632656
Vita means wife
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>>740628327
1) Gaben's yacht is also a science research vessel and it employs 50 people.
2) Tim Tencent Sweeny has never done anything altruistic
3) Tencent Timmy tried to sue Apple and Steam because he was greedy
4) All Indians should be banned from the internet
5) Steam is the most consumer friendly gaming storefront on the internet compared to all competition
6) Cope Seethe Dilate
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>>740638443
Only poors resell games. If you want to be poor, go buy a console with the other poors, poorfag.
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>>740638528
What do you mean they make the game the updates and all of the hard work. all valve does is provide the platform which they do the bare minimum to maintain
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>>740638447
>I don't know if you realize this but a lot of games with gratuitous violence are +18 in most of the world.
Because they're dumb and have dumb guidelines like Australia. Gratuitous violence is only evidence of the most childish games, like CoD
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>>740628827
Pcbros are having a hard time facing this truth
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>>740638521
Everyone would make less money and the sole beneficiary of this would be like retards like you who want a refund on the most cost efficient hobby on the planet

Again, just fucking pirate you kike, don't drag a perfectly functional system down with you
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>>740638383
why is your every mention of Gabe/Valve/Steam wordswapped with kike/jew/Israel?
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>>740638621
I agree, completely unique and handsome person that is certainly not me
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>>740638221
It's more like
>I will build and maintain this property making sure it is code compliant and fixing and leaks and power outages for you to live in as long as you pay me
They are the same service, but Steam is "free" which is the main difference.
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>>740638581
>5) Steam is the most consumer friendly gaming storefront on the internet compared to all competition
GoG is better at that
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>>740638528
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>>740638646
>Everyone would make less money and the sole beneficiary of this would be like retards like you who want a refund on the most cost efficient hobby on the planet
i already told you i dont give a shit they can do it and could make it work but they don't want to. They didn't even offer refunds at first either valve are turbo jews
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>Zoomies so buckbroken by steam they are saying you should not be able to resell things you bought
Grim. You vill own nothing and eat ze bugs indeed.
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>>740628327
tf2 hats obviously why are you even asking
going from making art to turning everyone into gambling addicts very shameful
at least they are doing good hardware/linux stuff.
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>>740637158
All pc classics predate steam popularity boom for a good reason. Steam killed pc gayming not save it. Stop spreading this retarded myth about pc gaming being bad before parasitic GabeN blessed us with his ecosystem of exploitation. It is the exact opposite.
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>>740638765
Understandable since they live in the digital cuck era and they have nothing to own so can't resell anything at all
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>>740638762
>>740638646
also gog allows you to do whatever the fuck you want with the game installer
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>>740638762
Yes, they could also stop selling games entirely
You're still a fucking retard that doesn't understand what an equilibrium is
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>>740638581
muh hecking science, i help turn the a huge number of people into gambling addicted losers but it's okay because some fag scientist helps develop a new covid vax and tick that makes people allergic to meat
scientists are generally a huge net negative on society
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>>740638893
you are the retard that gives no argument and just throw insults

also

>>740638859
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>>740638859
Objectively wrong
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>>740637484
Lmao on what fucking planet would a publisher just straight up let people profit from their games. That's just a refund with extra steps.
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Weighing the pros and cons of it all, steam is more pros than cons, so I just don't really mind paying into it. That can change at any time, but valve being a private corpo means they do need customer monies more than other corpos.
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>>740638765
It's crazy how corpo bootlickers will happily give up their rights for a dystopian future as long as their team "wins". Maybe Huxley was right.
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>>740638992
you mean like valve is currently doing?
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Only kikes and latinx care about profiting off of their old games. Just keep them. Maybe give them a replay sometime?
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>>740638765
Bro, you have zoomers in here calling you brown for saying that stores had shelves full of physical PC games
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>>740638765
as a ceritified unc i think the idea you would resell a digital product is stupid as hell. you gonna simulate your game getting "scratched" too? if you play your game too much during the day are we yellowing the "plastic"? we gonna force the devs to stop selling the game so that the copy you bought on launch day and never played can be resold as "still in the plastic fresh"?
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>>740639015
>private corpo means they do need customer monies more than other corpos.
That's not how it works. Like not even remotely at all lmao
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>>740638962
once i have the installer i can do wahtever i choose if they ban or do whatever i still have them . In steam if anything happens you lose everything
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>>740639051
idk why but Latinx makes me laugh so much, especially since it actually pisses off beanerfags
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>>740639049
Publishers pay for Steam's userbase and get majority revenue. What are you implying?
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>>740639073
Clarify.
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>>740638614
Is the platform not worth what they pay?
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>>740638765
>If I don't reply then I can pretend to be someone else
Physical is limited by condition, location and being a physical fucking object
Digital isn't
Shouldn't be hard to understand why reselling that is so fucking perfect that it completely destabilises the market
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>>740639052
I don't blame them to be fair. They literally cannot conceptualize what gaming was like in the 90s and early 00s. Game stores stocked full with game boxes that you would comb over and beg your parents to buy the one that looked the coolest. That doesn't exist anymore. It's a lost era.
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>>740639150
they charge the same as Nintendo/Sony curated platforms with none of the curation.
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>>740639127
the same can happen when reselling the games by adjusting the rates of the market they choose not to do it

>>740639150
I dont know but the point still stands valve are kikes who profit from doing barely anything and the bulk of the work of everything goes to the developers or the community. In gog for example the company develop patches and fixes for the games to work properly. In steam you might buy a broken game that then someone from teh community fixed.

Valve does fuck all
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>>740639112
Ok faggot? You're not doing that legally, that's tantamount to piracy, just like what I told you to do it you're such a stingy faggot jew that you want refunds on games you finished
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>>740639148
Back up your claim first if you want a debate.
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>>740639253
>Ok faggot? You're not doing that legally, that's tantamount to piracy, just like what I told you to do it you're such a stingy faggot jew that you want refunds on games you finished
Refunds as they currently work are fine i dont know why you spam strawmans. You agree with me since you don't deny at any point the system could be implemented. The user selling the game wouldn't get the whole money and the prices of games would flcutuate according to demand you could even prevent people from selling them for a period of times

I don't even know why you keep posting you are a retard
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>>740639289
Bitch YOU are the one telling me it doesn't work that way. Private corpos don't get free upstart investor money or stocks for quick money. What else but revenue from product and service do they get their money from?
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>>740639219
Publishers put games on steam to make money--it's not a fucking charity like you clearly think it should be.
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>>740639213
>curation
Devs should be paying Valve to deny them access to the store? I'm not sure what you're asking for here
>>740639219
>Valve does fuck all
Apparently they provide enough for most of the industry to be willing to give them 30%
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>>740639374
>Make retarded claim with no proof
>NO YOU NEED TO PROVE ME WRONG FIRST
No.
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>>740634359
There was a way to dunk on him and this was not it. You boring faggot.
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>>740639205
even with Steam killing physical ownership, I still remember walking into a gamestop to buy a physical copy of l4d2 in 2009
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>>740628327
HE MUST HEED THE CALL OF MOTHER OCEAN (loud whale noises)
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>>740639352
If I buy from you, I'm not buying from the publisher. Gamers would abuse the fuck out of that system. Is your cornbread cooked in the middle?
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>>740639386
>Publishers put games on steam to make money--it's not a fucking charity like you clearly think it should be.
O i thought they did cause it was the superior platform

kill youfrself

>>740639387
>pparently they provide enough for most of the industry to be willing to give them 30%
The only thing they have going is the memes which then led to the huge userbase which in its majority when ti took off were dota/cs players. If they were to be hated steam would die super fast

>>740639452
Ok im going to stop replying you fucking retard. If you sell on the market you could fix what % of the money interchanged goes to valve and the dev. Its currently 10% valve + 5% developer

dont reply to me again
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>>740639437
>AYO HE NO DUNK ON HIM LIKE IN BAKKETBAW WORD UP HOMESLICE SHAWTY MAH NIGGA
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>>740639352
And the implementation of that system would be a horrible fucking deal and it would undo everything valve has been working towards
All of a sudden steam is no longer a trusted platform since every single game has had its revenue completely fucking raped as no one would buy on launch when you can wait a week to get the game for half off if not more
All because you're too fucking dainty to just pirate if you're so fucking moneyminded
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>>740639439
I bought half life 2 and later the orange box at EB games. Anyone who says physical PC gaming was dead before Steam are zoomers. End of.
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>>740628327
Plot twist: doing it "for gamers" allows you to buy yachts. Fuck publishers and fuck devs also.
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>>740639621
>>740639352

>I don't even know why you keep posting you are a retard
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>>740639387
>Devs should be paying Valve to deny them access to the store? I'm not sure what you're asking for here
unironically it's a fair trade for a developer to pay more to have a market experienced person put in the time and effort to assess submissions and filter them for quality so that your product is not drowned in slop and has the "seal of approval" that filter entails.

paying curation prices for a mobile platform is robbery.
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>>740636854
dude Gabe did a whole reddit AMA defending it and the entire thread was just shitting on him the entire time

I have no clue how people actually memory holed this shit
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>>740639589
Don't ever run a business--you will get annihilated.
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>>740639708
dont ever engage in online arguments you have the intelligence of an ant or not even that since the ant can do its job propetly
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>>740639662
>please let me say retarded egotistical shit with no pushback
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>>740639424
If you think I'm wrong, just say why. This isn't model UN class, there's no process and no obligations. Worst I can do is not read your post.
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>>740639765
you are the one doing that im going to keep redirecting you

>>740639662
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>>740639629
>adult posting screenshots of Rugrats
>>740639701
>redditors are people worth listening to
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>dont ever engage in online arguments you have the intelligence of an ant or not even that since the ant can do its job propetly
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>>740629401
it''s artifact schizo
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>>740639818
You're really not beating the boring faggot allegations.
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>>740639904
I'm beating up your mom's pussy puss with my tubesteak.
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>>740639771
I'm not going to engage with a bad faith actor who demands proof against his empty assertation. Take your (You) and stop shitting up the thread.
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>>740639589
>if everyone hated steam it would die
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bicycle
>>740639691
Everyone seems fine paying despite the lack of curation. Steam must have something that makes it worth it
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>>740639795
No faggot, you think reselling is a good idea because it benefits you but you're just too fucking stupid to understand how much you're raping the market by allowing it
there's a reason literally no one fucking does it and valve sure as shit isn't going to flush their reputation with the industry down the fucking toilet
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>>740640002
>>740639795

>>740639991
plenty of corporations are hated but keep thriving valve relies 100% on outsourcing everything to the community or third parties who do the work for free or even pay valve they would be 100% fucked and forced to actually do work to survive
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>>740640070
>Completely lost the argument but thinks that he preserves his izzat by desperately needing to have the last reply like a rancid fucking jeet
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>>740640002
It's a poorfag teen with no business intelligence or a raging favela monkey. Or a jeet mad his ebay shop won't pay his rent anymore. He should just buy Pokémon cards
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>>740640070
I don't see your point. It would help if you used punctuation so I could tell where one statement ends and the next one begins
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>>740640147

you have no argument you keep babbling retarded shit ignoring waht i posted

if the EU forced them to allow resell how long do you think it would take valve to come up with a system? literally 5 minutes tops

they are jews. GoG does things like releasing games without any kind of protection or restriction on the user yet some companies choose to sell their games there

again im just going to keep redirecting you

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>>740628327
he's /ourguy/ and always will be
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>>740640229
I know because you are a fucking retard. You are farming to responses to then send to someone who has a brain to come up with shit to post here

you are a fucking retard regardless
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>>740628827
Hey look it's the artifact nigger again
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People really underestimate how expensive distribution gets, innit. Even when it's digital, it needs to get in front of my mouse in order for me to click on it and buy.
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>>740640240
If the EU forced them to resell then every EU cuck would suddenly be raped by aggressive DRM that reimplements account locks
and then it would be reverted due to the insane fucking damage it would cause to the industry because retards like you apparently need to learn that the market is made up of buyers and sellers
Developers will never accept having their revenue completely fucking nuked
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>>740640485
valve can literally make the developers take a big cut of the sale the price would still be capped at whatever the store price is. If people kept reselling games the companies would get infinite money

this was my last reply to you you are a fucking drooling retard
>>740639795
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Do you Pozzed Faggots even donate fucking blood what the fuck do you do that's actually good for the world you gay bastards you think wageslaving is a badge of honor or what lmao fucking class and race traitors
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>>740628827
>concept of ownership
But physical doesn't give you that either. Unless you can make infinite copies of your game and play them on any device you want, without idiotic hardware restrictions.

>first sale doctrine
I can sell infinite copies of my pirated games.
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Steam indies gettin' smashed by DLsite.
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>>740640297
Alright, I'll give you a more direct response
>they would be 100% fucked and forced to actually do work to survive
You didn't say anything. They would be fucked if what?
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>>740640696
explain to me how i didnt say anything
go ahead.
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>>740628327

What if he's doing it for the yachts and the gamers?
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>>740640761
I can't explain it to someone who doesn't comprehend English. You would fall into a woodchipper
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>>740640576
You humongous fucking idiot, no matter the cut it'll always be a massive fucking step down compared to what they're normally getting
You CAN'T make it a good deal for them, can you get that through that thick fucking skull of yours?
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I'm still gonna use Steam for most games and GoG for abandonware. Go sacrifice yourself to a speeding train, pajeets.
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>>740640864
thats no explanation. I ask again explain to me how whati posted doesnt say anything

>>740640886
the only one who would get fucked is valve itself as they wouldn't be able to take the whole 30% everyone else would be better off people would not get 100% of the money back in any scenario the current rates are minus 15%. Developers put up with sales of up to 90% discount. Do you think people don't wait for those to buy games whenever they can?

Ok this was my actual last post to you for real

kill yourself
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>>740640761
You stated a consequent without providing an antecedent
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>>740628327
This is why he's in New Zealand
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>>740641035
>that's no explanation
Likewise. I ask again what you were saying would fuck Valve in this post
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>>740641079
ok you can't read clearly

im going to leave everyone in this thread isa fucking retard.

remember no matter what jewish garbage excuse you can't come up with you cant erase everything valve did/does wrong. All it takes is a couple of pictures and copy pastas and there your shitty thread goes and you would be actually able to deny anything because its all true
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>>740641198
See you tomorrow. Love you <3
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>>740641198
Don't let the door hit you on the way out
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>>740641035
You retarded fucking nigger, games with deep sales have already gotten their share of revenue and they're at the stage where pretty much anything they sell is profit
What reselling would do is massively shift those sales targets because now you've told them they make less than half of what they used to make per copy
The endpoint of this is game developers treating the market like a low trust favela, something you relate to I'm sure
Enjoy no sales and as much content tied to nontransferable micro transactions as they can manage because you've just told developers they need to fucking fight the customers for revenue
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>>740641198
>companies do bad things
wow, big shock. Guess I can't support Nintendo anymore since they tried to kill Rentals in the 90's. And sony is out the window due to the whole rootkit scandal, and Microsoft and Kinect? hoo forget it.
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>>740628654
>/v/
it's just the few lurking mossad agents thinking they're actually making a dent on his reputation.
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I would delete all your steam libraries for a yacht.
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>>740641354
It might be one guy doing it for free all because valve dropped the ball on Artifact.
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>>740628654
Newfags not understanding contrarianism and the concept of pretending to be retarded. Newfags see people pretending to be retarded and it makes them feel welcome being actually retarded. This website has been worthless for almost 20 years now.
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>>740628327
Look if a Yach is all it took to make sure that someone who gives a fuck is at the top of a megacorporation
1) I would gladly pay that prise
2) Gaben would be the only person who would own a Yatch on the world
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>>740638616
Also Japan and Europe. Only America is all
>beheading? yeah this is fine for teens lol
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>>740628827
they hated him because he told the truth
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>>740629401
you forgot the 4th option
a seamonkey that views the google play store that hosts his gacha phone games as a competitor to steam, and is trying to wage a "console war"-style feud with steam because gachafags are total subhuman bugmen with no personality other than shilling their shitty phone games.
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>>740639112
>In steam if anything happens you lose everything.
objectively wrong, there is ZERO difference from gog and steam, anyone who tells otherwise is coping hard.



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