What am I in for?
bare bones plane game but the sound track sounds epic
>Wow, those Yuktobanians are real niggers, aye Blaze?Yes > < No
>>740632125>Tensions being stoked between ethnicities by shadow occultists>South Belka is IsraelBelkans are jews.
worst ps2 ace combat
>>740631720CUM HISTORIA
best ps2 ace combat
>>740631720CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAYCAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAYWELL YOU SHOVED IT IN MY FACETHIS PAIN YOU GAVE TO ME
>>740631720WAR BAD PLANES RAD
>>740632401The trailer is pure kinohttps://youtu.be/iWRdMX1VaZA?si=DalgnzEqVaa_t3UN
>>740631720The best game in the series
canonically which to play first ? 5 or Zero?
>>7406327345why would you not play in release order. are you stupid
>>740631720probably the worst radio chatter in the whole franchise. Yes, I'd take BINGO every time I kill something than those guys.Also, the AC game with varying degrees of shitty pacingAlso has the worst plane unlock mechanic of the whole series
>>740631720One of the worst games in the franchise.
>>740631720the worst dialogue in the series (except for the second to last mission which is awesome), and decent missions mixed with horrible gimmick missionsunfortunately you should play it before playing 0
>>740632761>worst radio chatterFor your squadmates maybe, but the best ally/enemy ground chatter in the series. Especially coming off 4 which was kind of barebones 'guy in a room reading lines,' 5 is the first one where you really hear everyone on the ground flipping their shit with klaxons blaring and people getting concussed and everything else.>THIS IS A CIVILIAN AIRPORT
>>740632863>For your squadmates maybe, but the best ally/enemy ground chatter in the series"Uh, hey up there, I have a favor to ask you, do you think you could bomb our idiot brigade commander for us from the air?"Yes > < No
>>740631720kino
Do people really hate ac5? It was my first ace combat.What is your tier list anons? Curious.
>>740633004
>>7406334794 was my first but Zero ended up being my favorite. 5 is okay. It just feels like when you get real good at AC you have to wait for AC5 and its characters to catch up, since characters have to get dialouge out of the way before a mission advances.
I liked it a lot, got it with AC7 preorder, S ranked all the missions in 5 but never even finished 7
https://youtu.be/mjY6awCr2_c?si=VF86W5y_v_myPWRg&t=220CUUUUUUM HISTOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAMUTAT VALDEEEEE RAAAAAZGRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZREVELAAAAAAAAT IIIIPSUUUUUUUUUMPRIMUM DAEMON SCELESTUS EEEEST
>>740633479people used to suck its dick a LOT but i've noticed sentiment turning on it relatively recently (personally i always disliked but it did have some good moments like everyone singing together)of the ones i've played:0 > 4 > 6 > 7 > X > 5 > 2 > 1hard to rate infinity and 3's been sitting on my hard drive for a year but i've just been lazy
>>740634039>six better than fiveAnon, i'm all for people having differing opinions about video games, but this makes no god damn sense. Six is the worst modern ace combat that isn't assault horizon. Even if you only compare "YES/NO" to "Dance with the angels!"
>>740634039Infinity wasn't fully playable until around two and a half weeks ago. Why did you have it for that long beforehand?
>>740634329Nevermind, I'm retarded. I didn't see 3 at first.
>>7406343076's missions are WAY more fun than 5's even though the story is horrendous
>>740632863>but the best ally/enemy ground chatter in the series.For me it's the awacs and other squadrons in 6. Shamrock was a little cheesy but everyone else was gold.
>>740633479
>>740632360beat me to it
>>7406334795 just sucks. Shit story. Annoying gimmick missions. Useless squadron. Terrible plane unlocking mechanics. Step back from 4 all around.
>>740633479Hate is too strong a word, but its the weakest of the PS2 games. It definitely picks up by the end, but has a bunch of whatever missions.
>>740633479AC5 was my first Ace Combat game as well, and I like it, but the game suffers from a fair amount of gimmick missions which kind of harm it when you are replaying it.
>>740633479I like it but way too much gimmick missions and for me it was the weakest of the bunch, the last 4 missions are absolute cinema though.AC0>AC4>AC7>AC5
>>740632734Zero should be the last ps2 game you play or else you'll miss the soifaces, it isn't that important but it's a nice addition to the experience.
>>740634928>Shit story. Annoying gimmick missions.This is every Ace Combat game. Negro, you put AC3 into S rank and you're complaining about gimmicks.
>>7406355323 has some annoying missions but it made up for it with everything else. And if you think that's the same as 5 you're the blackest retarded gorilla nigger imaginable.
>>7406346797 is dogshit
>>740631720Belka doing nothing wrong
>>740631720
>>740631720Boring, overrated garbage.
>>740631720All Ace Combat games are the same, if you played one you played all, the only difference is the story. 0 has the best story, so its the best game in the franchise. 5's story is meh, so its a meh game.
I think 3 is overrated as fuck.
>>740633479It's very flawed but is ambitious in its mission variety and you can overlook most problems on a first playthrough.It's still miles better than the overrated bombing run slop that is AC4
>>740635987it's the filterone side are ace combat fansthe other side are tom clancy troonsone side likes 3the other hopes 3 is retconned out of existence
>>740631720Best ground forces in the series. It's a shame they will never get their own game.
>>7406361953s story is generic jap technostentialism and the gameplay itself is boring
>>740636195The game scope was simply too much for the hardware, probably the only game that could actually use a full remake.
>>740633479I don't hate it but the story was incredibly melodramatic and the missions weren't too fun on repeat playthroughs.
>>740631720CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAY!!!
>>740632734Zero is basically a standalone expansion to 5, even reusing certain maps and tying itself to events that cause 5 many years later as well as tweaking certain things from 5 specifically. If you're getting the pre-order bonus, whatever, sure, it's fine on its own, but you're getting the more complete experience from 5 -> Zero.
>>740636416Sea Goblin? I found some of dailogue cringe. >if we find captain nagase first, I'm asking her out>chopper: if you guys find her I'll let you marry her
>>740636814>4what is wrong with you
>>740636945And then they died in the space elevator for no reason whatsoever
>>740636965love me flight modellove me ground attack missionssimple as
As someone that's shit on the """Holy Trinity""" meme for over a decade now, I'm glad more people are waking up and realizing how bad 5 is.
>>740635987It is, I like it but it isn't even the best of the PS1 generation. Too many short missions, too many gimmicks, too many paths if I'm being honest. Three paths would've felt better. The story is cool and so is the setting but none of it matters in the end. Just a "what if" story with no real meat. I don't think it needs a remake though, the visuals of the PS1 and the older anime style fit the feel of the story perfectly at least to me.
>>740636945I think Chopper jokes with them that they'll have to compete with Blaze on getting her attention.
>>740637035I don't appreciate how literally 80% of the missions are sandboxes that takes a while to clear, I'd rather replay 5 than this.
>>740636429you are openly gay
>>740637232They are fun once you realize the meta is picking planes with the large UGB and chuck bombs all over the place for easy S ranks.
>>740633479Haven't played all of them yet, but I'd say so far, it's 5, 0, 7, 4 for me. I like 5 the most because of its epic scope and for its story because it's so far the only AC game I've played where you truly go AWOL and start fighting for yourself. The other games like 7 and 0 sort of have elements of this, but even there, you're still fighting for Ustio or Osea at the end of the day, whereas in 5, you're fighting alongside Yuktobanians, Oseans, and Belkans against what is effectively the Osean deep state.
>>740637768I mean, it's not even remotely hard to S rank the holy trinity games.
>>7406381105 with it's bullshit low missile counts can be annoying
>>740638180It's only a problem on the sandbox-esque missions because the devs forgot to implement the return line.
>>740631720Staggered pacing due to wingmen constantly asking you shit. Failed the section? Listen to them chatter and answer them again. Rubbish.
I really liked 5. 4 felt like a bloated prototype and 0 is streamlined to the point where nothing is memorable except for the ending.
So how are we feeling about the fact that 8 is quite literally shaping up to be 5 2.0?Dialogue options are back and seemingly will play a bigger role in the final outcome such as who will live or die.
>>740633479I loved it for the first playthrough but replaying it is such a chore. 3 JP is the other story heavy AC and is much better plus replays are mandatory to get the full picture.
>>740638782>0 is streamlined to the point where nothing is memorable except for the ending.You don't like squadron boss fights? What is wrong with you? It's better than just fighting gigahuge superweapon bosses all the time.
>>740638887the act of playing 0 was good. 5 just has so many batshit missions that for better or worse stick in my mind. It might be more gimmicky but I often preferred the gimmicks to the score attack missions
>>740638808What killed 5 was the shitty plot and myriad of gimmick missions. Judge will be out on that until 8 actually comes out.And if anything, 7 was the game that was AC5 - 2.
the Razgriz was so cool
>>740632471KHNO
>>740638887words cannot express how happy i am to see enemy ace squadron intros again
>>740635987I like 3 the most because it is a horror game with planes.
I've only player Ace Combat 5 once back when 7 released and it was great. I will replay right now and share my findings here if the thread is still alive.
>>740639105Delphinus has to be the most iconic AC3 plane, right?
>>740639105god i hate the varcolac so mcuhstupid penis plane
>>740639283It's got 3 different versions, that's kind of cheating.
>>740639182You're not helping. You're hyping up 3 as something it's not.
How in the fuck was every tier list posted in this thread genuinely bad?
>>740640774they've all got borders between the colors
my main complaint about 5 is that there were too many ground attack missions but you couldn't unlock the bomber versions of planes without grinding.
>>740640774post yours
>>740641202
>>740641703
>>740641703well then it looks like you're right, every tier list posted in this thread continues to be genuinely bad
>What am I in for?>Ace CombatI don't know maybe fucking PLANES and MISSILES
>>740641703>5 that highKEKAROO
Tiers are like borders, they fucking suck
>>740641916>KEKAROOCringe
>>740641703bruh
Did you have friends for it?
Ace combat tier lists have the same problem as pokemon tier lists which is that they're all so similar all of the good games are on the same tier.
A real tier thread puts 3 in last, 5 ans 2 at top, zero in mid.
We all know gameplaywise AC6 is at the top, right? Making the allies into a nuke all button is just kino.
>>740642147I don't have friends
>>740631720>War is le bad>Woman are le independent and strong>Worship woman >Woman are better than man>Muh Unity and diversity
Horizon Legacy plus was my first AC and to date is my absolutely favorite, the opening cinematic always gives me goosebumps and Fighter's Honor is my top song in the franchisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dM7-58eFXI
>>740631720 ΛYes< >No V
>>740642270Maybe next time chief.
>>740642270>Woman are better than manUnironically true. Men should stay at home and women should operate the planet. Only a retard disagrees with AC logic.
>>740642290I tried playing this, but automatically setting you behind enemy planes was just too much for me. Had to drop it.Which is a shame because I love AC2
>>740642290AC2 is a great game. And AC3D is its remake. Pity they jinxed its american version with that misbegotten name.
>>740642290This game is actually bad tho
Actual tier list Last game: AC7Upcoming game: AC8Other games: AC1/2/3/4/5/6
>>740642407Worst tier list in the thread award
>>740638180learning how to use your guns is part of gitting gud. and it's not that hard of a game.
do you respect ac1 and 2
>>740642592no, it's uncslop
>>740632335fpbp
>>740642592They're boring.
>>740642592only 2, 1 is vomitcore
>>740642290ahl had some major issues, but you're right that fighter's honor is fucking amazing
>>740642474Actual tier listLast game: AC7Upcoming game: AC8Other games: AC1/2/3/4/5/6Garbage: Anime
>>740631720very mediocre game
>>740642592I've 100%'d 2 and I couldnt recommend anyone actually play it
>>740642781>1 is vomitcoreWhat about Air Combat 22?
>>740642592I must be the odd one that liked 2 more than 4(4 is a bit of a reimagining of 2)
>>740641703so garbage lol
>>740633479started with 23 and 0 are the ones i really really love with 3 being my favoritethe others are alright, love 2 mostly because of the soundtrack. 4 is good. didnt really care for 7 and disliked most of 5
>>740643228the graphics and UI, holy fuck what is this? Gameboy?
>>740643307Arcade machine. Though you can actually play it on modern platforms in the Arcade Archives stuff now.
>>740643228I don't get it this is just AC8
>>740643228>Gun 86 231Is it loaded with .22 goddamn
Game's as good as i rem3mber so far desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYvYkDOG-W8
Now this is some garbage mission holy shit, my brain forgot about this entirely.
>>740645669You can do the rush path, and have it done faster than the radar mission from AC7, honestly the camera stealth mission is more annoying.
>>740645669Don't forget the best mission in the game playing tag with unc on his trainer plane while your squad cream their pants witnessing his piloting skills (flying between 10 mile wide mountains)
We need a new ac game where you play as a proud belkan and rape osea to the ground
>>740646165And after three missions you defect to erusea and niggerrape all your former belkan comrades
Electrosphere is hands down the most memorable gaming experience in the series. 4 is better, but only because the ps1->ps2 upgrade.
>>740645669DIS NIGGA TAKING PICTURES OF HE SCREEN
>>740645930give me a mod to skip this mission
i really don't understand why people put 4 above 5 or zerowhat does it do better
I recently finished 5 and thought it was a step back from 4 in every department. Hope Zero is better.
>>740648627>thought it was a step back from 4 in every departmentLiterally how? There's more levels and aircraft, and the story is actually interesting instead of jerking off your righteousness and invincibility.
>>740648943too much annoying missions I guess
>>740648943>and the story is actually interestingAnd if you die on a mission with a lot of story, you gotta sit through every minute of it again. Characters, story, epic moments are fine and all that, but when it actually hampers replayability there's a problem, and 8 looks to be repeating that.
>>740649065you have checkpoints in nu AC
>>740635697i don't even remember any of 3's missions being that annoying, they just felt a bit short and easy if you were used to the ps2 games. a few missions felt a bit like puzzles, in a good way, though, i enjoyed them. absolutely nothing else like it in the series,, for general atmosphere and story. i still think about 3 a lot.
>>740649065Maybe don't have a skill issue
>>740631720Raw kino, play ace combat zero after
>>740648627You'll be disappointed, Zero is very hyped but not really that good. Play Electrosphere (JP) afterwards and find out that even 4 was a massive step back.
>>740632246>Belkans are jews.5 is literally based on how Iranians pitted the US and Russians against each other
most beautiful final mission, especially if you don't rush it
>>740650996actually you have to rush killing Grabacr and Ofnir or you won't get extra dialogues with your wingmen
>>740648627Zero is horrible, it has horrible pacing at 15 missions.
>>740631720Crap levels and crap dialogue. Worst of the PS2 games.
>>740632461We know Hayao
>>740651226I meant with the falling satellite and the subsequent time limit. It suffers from the exact same problem as MGS3's finale. The music and dialogue and moments crescendo but you can't experience them if you kill the thing within two minutes
The wingman AI on 5 sucks dicks compared to Pixy.
>>740650923All those Iranians in the highest levels of the US and Russian government and militaries, huh
>>740651226I kind of wish Grabacr and Ofnir were around during the actual SOLG drop, even if it'd be a clusterfuckThe fact that they just kill themselves if you take too long (somehow) is laughableBut Megalith had the same issue, despite the bombastic presentation it's actually quite tranquilI was hoping for more lasers and meteors
What's the best way to play 5 right now?Thinking of checking it out myself.
>>740654796Unless you or someone you know pre-ordered 7 on PS4, it's emulationIt's pretty simple to setup these days with next to no bugs, but you might want to check guides on /aceg/ as well
>>740631720ace combats , it says it right there
>>740654796Emulate the PS2 version.
>>740632335faggot
>>740633479turns out limiting the gameplay for the sake of story will alienate your fanbase. It's no coincidence 4 and 0 are regarded as the best ones because they have the best gameplay overall, even when they don't have as much planes or missions as 5.
better tier list coming through
X felt so mediocre and low energy I didn't even bother finishing it.I don't know what people see in that game.
>>740633479>Zero>6>5>4>Project Shitman>7>X>Ass HorizonI should complete 3 someday. Also I'd probably rate X better if it was a proper console game.
>>740646486I don't get why people jizz themselves so hard over 3. Thought it was boring compared to the ps2 games. Coolest thing about it was how reactive the characters are to your actions, like how you get different dialogue depending on how well you do, what route you're on, etc
>>7406334795 is easily the weakest out of PS2 Ace Combats, way too many boring gimmick missions and shitty branching.
>>740651391That film is war bad planes good
>>740633479Assault Horizon used to get most of the flak. 6 also but that was mostly because of the angry Snoys. Now that the emulators are more common and zoomies getting into the series the opinions have shifted somewhat.
>>740657000AH is overhated, its as fun as an old cawadooty campaign. And the OST was banger after banger.
>>740635697>made up for it with everything elseYou mean more gimmicks? It's the closest game to AC5. There is no "think", only "know". Did you watch this shit on YouTube without playing it?>>740636606No, AC3 aged very well (PS1 games rarely do) and wouldn't benefit from a remake other than obviously having modern graphics. There's not much wrong with AC3 other than the gimped international version.
A story that is honestly not good and only praised because most other ace combat games don't really try in terms of story, they focus more on setting and characters.Also some of the shittier gameplay in the series.
>>740642290The Usean capacity to backstab their neighbours is truly incredible.
>>740658136Usea is the worst place in StrangerealBelka at least nuked itself to save everyone else the trouble, when was the last time Usea did anything good
>>740657136>And the OST was banger after banger.ThisDare I say it, Assault Horizon has potentially one of the best OSTs in the franchise. It is disgusting how good the music is in that game, and it's a travesty it's attached at the hip to a game nobody wants to remember.
>>740658136>>740658410Usea's a continent, you dai baka yaro-tachi.
>>740632401MAN THIS SONG REALLY CALMS ME DOWN.>Then they replay it in the credits oh man
>>740656751Really good music and overall aesthetics, an interesting premise, and COFFIN planes are slick.
>>740658528>FCUsean splitting hairs>Nobody actually called it a country anywayDon't get me started on Verusa
>>740658528might as well be a whole ass country since no one other than Erusea seems to care about their identity
can i hop into the series with 7? its on sale nowor should i preorder 8 and try zero on steam when it comes out
If you have a PCVR headset, i implore you to buy vtol vr and download the ace combat 5 campaign mod.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3326881500Some brilliant autist went through all the effort to port it over and its so good.AC4 is also available but i have not tried it.
>>740631720bad mission design, skip this one
>>7406587067 is designed to be a starting point, though the story is a bit of a mess you'll learn what you need to know, both mechanically and setting-wiseAlternatively I'd recommend 4, it's straightforward but good and it's free thanks to emulationPlay with Expert controls and have fun anon
>>740634679>7 in SThanks for instantly telling on yourself and your absolute dogshit taste.
How's emulating the PS2 era games these days? I remember it was a total crapshoot like a decade ago.
>>740658992Basically flawless, the last I heard the worst thing was certain clouds not rendering in AC5 but I'm pretty sure even that's fixed nowEven 6 on Xenia is basically complete, leaving only Infinity with minor graphical issues that are being worked on in recent patches (pretty good for a game that got working multiplayer last month)
>>740633479Weighing up both gameplay and writing, 0 and 3JP are on top. Then 4>6>5>2>7. Haven't played Air Combat or ACX
>>740659162Wonderful! Is PCSX2 still the go-to emulator, or have things changed? I'm on windows, if that matters.
>>740659936PCSX2 is the way to goI'm not sure if /aceg/ guides are up to date but they might be worth checking out for any settings optimisations, even if it's plug-and-play these days
>See that airfield you just captured?>You can land on it mid battleI think 6 also had same map carrier landings too
>>740660337Yeah that was really coolI hope they integrate that into multiplayer somehow, give us some objectives that mix things up a lotInfinity had mission updates but you never really had to put much thought into engagements, except for maybe << Delay the final attack! >>
>"Go dance with the angels mister"How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>740661228XMAA
>>740661228I shoot him down
>>740661228Throw her to the sex starved Estovakian penal unit
>>740661427its amazing to me that the US will build state of the art planes but is then too scared to use them
>>740657136I'd say the hate from fanbase was well deserved. With more objective view it's a solid game.
>>740662185Because the Raptor is 40+ years old and it STILL shits on every other air superiority fighter, but we also live in a time when it's irrelevant because you can shoot down your enemy from 150km away.
>>740661427OH N-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1O0nqDr0hA
>Try to play other dog fighting games>The pro controls aren't mapped like AC and feel clunkier for it>Performance is ass with screen tearing galore>The game constantly tries to auto adjust your roll back to neutral so you're focused on wrestling with it over more important tasksWhy is it so hard to get right what AC figured out on the PS1?
>>740633479Some of the missions are a real slog
>>740663498Everyone wanted to do their own thing without studying Ace Combat. That's how you get HAWX with some seriously wonky ass shit and horrible design choices like swapping to the easymodo controls at the press of a button that just does most of what you need automatically. Unironically the best "clones" you're getting are obscure shit like Airforce Delta Strike because everything that tried to be mainstream always missed the point or refused to study.
Actually correct tier list coming through.
>no project slypheed on modern systemsthat's the real shame
what the fuck was his problem?
>>740666121Chad broke him so bad he had to make something that could kill him no matter what timeline they ended up in.
>>740666643>ac3 predicted hypergamy
>>740632863Still think of the part in AC4 when some brigadier colonel is complaining the air support is insufficient. After the fight, AWACS calls him with some smug>pretty good air support right ;)And a sergeant picks up (implying everyone else in the chain of command is dead)>uh...yes. thank you
>>7406328634's chatter is great because of that tone though, SkyEye and the rest are professionals and it makes all the emotions stand out when they happen, especially laterYou can tell he's having a blast during Invincible Fleet and MegalithSame is true for a bunch of others as well, Omega 11, Bravo One, the Megalith Yellows for their few lines, even Yellow 13 subtly wavering when 4 is shot downOne of my favorite lines in the entire series is still Bravo's><< I don't care if it's a lie, just tell them Mobius 1 is here! >>>>740666121The man who was cucked to death
How the fuck did AC7 have a more interesting villain in the DLC than the entire base game?
>>740669628The DLC didn't go through multiple rewrites that caused development to constantly get fucked up
>>740669628The development of the base game was an utter clusterfuck. The plot was scrapped and rewritten multiple times until we got the equivalent of a few different scripts stapled together.The team had figured out their development issues so the DLC wasn't effected by them. This is why I have faith in AC8 being good.
:)
>>740669757>>740669849That makes sense to me. At least the nutjob was entertaining.
>>740669925A true ace!
Predict the number if annoying drone missions in AC8
>>740670395Less than AC7 but more than AC6
>>740670395If we can wipe out those drone swarms using air to ground perhaps less than 7
>>740666121We've gotten plenty of references to GR in 7 and at least one in 8. Hopefully we start seeing something from Neucom, they should be around by 2029. Also, where's UPEO?
>>740663639Jannies and mods don't actually know the boards they clean up for free
