Why did Japanese people spend so much money on Korean/Chinese goychaslop instead of their own wonderful homegrown art? Are they stupid? No wonder God keeps sending them natural disasters
>>740642197test
>>740642197japanese gacha is low effort 2d autobattlers or IP slop that will EOS after a year
>>740642197>Nikke the game about giant asses>Biggest spender is japanJapan has fallen. All that immigration got them culturally enriched
>>740642310I didn't mean Japanese trooncha. I meant Japanese videogames.
>>740642197Because those Korean and Chinese gachaslop games hired popular Japanese artists. And the games are outside of Japanese ratings boards that say you can't show swimsuits or pantyshots anymore. Although the same is happening to Chinese games now too.
>>740642197Have you seen the state of Japanese games lately? It's mostly just westernslop and Japanese gachaslop are like three generations behind Chinese/Korean games in terms of quality.
>>740642310this anon is right
>>740642197Nikke sucks, bro.
>>740642197from the thumbnail i thought that was ina on the left
>>740642197You buy Western games?
We seriously need a global ban on gambling
>>740642197
>>740642197OP is a jew that wants Japan to open borders more btw
>>740642197>1.3 billion usdFGO make like 10 billion usd since 5 years ago lol
>>740642559>korea shit afk auto battle>qualityLMAO
>>740642353>>740642197Heres a jap dev giving some insight for you.
>>740642197Because their local gachas are usually low effort chibi turnbase cash grab that EOS in a year or two, especially anime IP gacha.
>>740642197Japan hasn't made a good gacha since Puzzles & Dragons
>>740643179>honkai shit rail
>>740643179Funny how hsr has become a literal auto battle with extreme power creep
>>740643298> low effort chibi turnbase cash grab Are you talking about korea gacha?
>>740643570>literally the same body rigginglmao chinks
>>740642310Korea and China would do the same thing if they had any IPs worth whoring out as gacha gamesInstead, they just fill their games with tits and ass, pretend to be Japanese and rely on mindless coomers who aren't smart enough to find real porn games on their phone
because japanese gamers know the likes of cygames and sqeenix are pure cancer.
>>740643934>why are you eating shit?>UMMM DONT YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE SMELLY AND DISGUSTING THAT OTHER SHIT IS?Japanese people are bananas. Just don't eat shit
>>740643963Why is he brown?
>>740643086And are those billions here with us? I know nikke money goes to the most talked game currently
>>740643795And why can't japanese devs do the same? And I'm not just talking about established companies with established IPs. Why couldn't a company like ShiftUp, a new company with zero established franchises a decade ago, have been made by a jap instead of a korean? It's not like japanese people have "respect" for their shit either, considering the IP whoring they do and the absolute dogshit cashgrab licensed gacha "games" they pump out.
>>740642310This is true as long as you ignore 95% of Japanese games and exclusively count Squeenix and SEGA games.
>>740644046>the most talked game currentlyThat is RE veronica and Persona 4,6
>>740644241Nip games have ton of issues but main one is devs not giving a shit about feedback and QOL features are updated at glacial pace.Also somehow more jewish.
>>740644215It happens, of course it happens.We just don't see them succeed because Japan's output is simply much more competitive.Japanese gacha aren't just competing with other gacha, but also with regular games as well.Korea and China are producing far fewer titles, which means they corner the market domestically, and are then propelled overseas by that success.
>>740643963Isn’t there another manga judge who said manga was dead and that Korean webtoons were the future, only for the exact opposite to happen?
>>740642197>Why did Japanese people spend so much money on Korean/Chinese goychaslop instead of their own wonderful homegrown art?Because video game is video game? Why did Chinese/Korean people spend so much money on Japan animeslop instead of their own wonderful homegrown art?
>>740642197You know what I don't get? Japs hate western games. Most western games are heavily story driven. But when I play gacha shit, it's just characters talking and talking and talking and talking. Then when the scene is over, you're onto the next scene where characters are talking and talking and talking and talking. And it's not even animated, just characters standing there. Whether it be something like Genshin where they stand in a circle with dialogue alternating, or these gif files standing there with some dialogue. It's the most boring shit ever. At least western games they're completely cinematic with actual gameplay segments in between. Maybe not the best gameplay depending on the game, but what do you get in gacha? A few autobattle scenes before more scenes of dialogue?
>be korean>decide to make game>make shitty cabal shooter with literally no strategy or skill required, sprites are just women shaking their asses at the camera>get 1 billion dollarsthis makes me want to die. They had all the time in the world but that slop was the best they bothered to put out and somehow got rich off it. I FUCKING HATE Japanese people because they do nothing but reward whoever the biggest faggot is every fucking time.
You know, I've reached endgame after playing for about a year and a half and I just don't understand what these people are spending so much money onAt this point I can just ticket every new unit I want, and I've never paid for a single roll
>>740644498>Korea and China are producing far fewer titlesNigga, Korea and China market is uber competitive, they don't have console culture so everything is mobile or PC.
>>740642197Why did Chinese/Korean people spend so much money on Japan anime instead of their own wonderful homegrown art?
>>740644716>At least western games they're completely cinematic with actual gameplay segments in between.The problem is that the gameplay is still shit and the story is way longer than it needs to be.Same issue gacha games have, but with a bigger budget.
>>740644728It's a good thing because this gacha slop is funding my stellar blade instead. In a year, Shift up can probably fund 1 or 2 AAA games with a modest budget.This would be like if EA took their ball game gachas and used the money to make games people actually wanted.
>>740642197The pure seethe Nikke generates from the undesirables on here needs to be studied.
>>740644881>This would be like if EA took their ball game gachas and used the money to make games people actually wanted.Man those were the days. Back when we got mirror's edge and dead space in between all the ea sports crap.
>>740644929And instead we get Fable that I don't think the original fans even want anymore.In a perfect world, we'd get an Alice Madness Returns sequel
>>740644785What the hell are they competing with?In China, nationalism beats quality entertainment 10 times out of 10. There's a reason The Game Awards' voter-led categories are always dominated by Chinese games, and it's not because they're good.As for Korea, their entire country is controlled by repressed libido, of course they flock to their coomer gacha games instead of whatever Japan or the West is importing. They do the same thing with their music.
>>740642197Despite being the pioneers of the medium Japan is ironically the worst at making gacha games and it's not even close. Korea and China are way better at it and no it's not even a "they're better at being greedy and exploitative" Jap gacha are by far the scummiest.
>>740644498I'd say there's less competition in JP gachaslop and more that there's no talent to make the right kind of gachaslop in Japan. Why couldn't NIKKE, a success in Japan, be made by Japanese? Why couldn't Blue Archive have been made by Japanese people instead of Korean people? The cold hard truth is that Japanese people can't make these kinds of gacha because none of them have the experience.
>>740642559I love moe
>>740644832Funny how those koreaboo keep ignoring this >>740644832
>>740645049What sort of experience is that, exactly
>>740644215acutal answer: japan still has a close relationship with america and wants to pander to them. global inflation and rising development costs ensure that you can't develop for just the japanese market anymore. of course the obvious answer is to pander to the chinese market instead but japanese are still racist to chinese and so they have a subconscious distaste of selling to them or doing shit like chinese translations
>>740643647It's a great game desu. Unironic tryhards are going to be bent over and fucked hard in every gacha, it's by the design
>>740645049It's like Katawa shoujo, It’s like Katawa Shoujo. There’s something amusing about seeing a game set in Japan, with Japanese named characters and events centered around Japanese culture, all made by a bunch of gaijins, yiou know? Just like what the jap doing with Metal Wolf Chaos or MGR
>>740645171>but japanese are still racist to chinese and so they have a subconscious distaste of selling to them or doing shit like chinese translationsAnd this is a good thing
>>740643647>has becomeThis implies it was ever anything but that. HSR has always been the most blatant p2w of the Mihoyo games cause it's designed for woman and woman don't know how to deal with problem solving.
>>740645160>What sort of experience is that, exactlyObsessed with moe shit
lmao at weebs suffering identity death
>>740644374Stellar Blade 2 also has 1.2 million views desu
>>740642197The great land of Japan produced garbo to the level of FGO...it deserves to have Blue Archive getting into the pixiv. Sorry. I guess...if I had to make up something, maybe it's just kind of complacent or something..I heard they were mostly making it for their own entertainment anyway and not thinking about quality...but well, Western media sometimes declines once it gets less good, so FGO being that bad will have people flock to something else. Same principle.
You're the guys acting like it was a competition when they're collaborating with each other against the western menace though
>>740645049>The cold hard truth is that Japanese people can't make these kinds of gacha because none of them have the experienceMost people in Japan look down on otaku and moe shit and see it as disgusting and embarrassing. Gaijins generally don’t have the same stigma attached to it
>>740645049More like they have fuck all business vision. Your usual gook and chinese gacha have global release from get go or if not just few months later.Lot of JP games get stuck on limbo or take forever to get a global server, that still is behind in content just because.
>>740645373wait wrong pic. Kojimbles is too busy hanging out in hollywood. Refer to this pic instead
>>740645325And RE veronica has 3 million views on playstation alone, what are you trying to prove?
>>740642197The Jap gachas are genuinely way scummier. Going from FGO to Nikke was like night and day. idk what it was like at launch but Nikke gives you plenty of pity systems to comfortably play f2p.Now if only those fucks at Shift Up would stop teasing and give me Drake overspec.
>>740642197why is there such an inorganic concerted effort to trash vidya from china, japan, or korea
>>740645070Because this thread is made by Seanigger discord with inferiority complex against Japan, what do you expect?
>>740645384then why was their opening ceremony for the olympics filled with nerdy videogame music? thats like, the most important time to portray your image as a country. all eyes are on your nation.
>>740645439>>740645384There's also how they treat gacha in the first place. Those anime themed gacha you see Square Enix or Bandai Namco makes? Those weren't designed to be sustained for a long amount of time. They're basically limited edition virtual merchandize for fans of the anime or video game. They usually have a shelf life of 1 or 2 years before getting taken down and they absolutely do not care. This isn't the case with chinese or korean gacha where if say NIKKE collapsed and bombed, it would bankrupt the entire company.Meanwhile Bandai namco is a megacorp that has a toyline, video games, tv shows, pachinko and so on. One disposable gacha is nothing to them.
>>740642197Thank you, Japan for bankrolling this game.
>>740645486>Playing FGO or granblue at this day and age.Those games are draconic and buttfuck any new player raw, most people just stick around due habit rather than legit enjoying it, just like MMO players.
>>740645573Because those aren't nerdy at all. Video games are normie as hell compared to most anime. Let alone some gacha where you collect waifus. Playing music from something square enix or nintendo made is a point of pride, not something like shit like dead or alive or senran kagura.
>>740645573>Mario>Pokemon>NerdyWut? Try talking with Japanese about moeshit and they will look at you like a cockroaches lmao
>>740645618Lmao, you just made realize that Japan helped funded the sequel.>chinks bought SB1 the most on steam>japs are the biggest paypigs for NIKKE which is used to fund other shiftup projectsNo wonder kim is so bold to piss off and provoke the west. He doesn't give a fuck because asians are his primary audience.
>>740642197Is this you, OP?
>>740645670>square enixso they're not embarrassed by this but they're embarrassed by a girl acting cute....ok...
>>740645850Lol I lowkey asked a japanese kid many years ago if he knew about Bleach and asked me if it's like detective conan. It's like that everywhere. Most japs are ultra normie, just like everywhere else. Nerd culture is nerdy for a reason because only nerds care about it.
>>740645160Good animations, notably 3D. Hell, even 2D (which is just live2D nowadays). The rare talented ones are using it on vtuber avatars. Knowing how to effectively market their games so they actually have some mindshare and don't EOS 1 month before some global release. On that topic, actually knowing how to release in other regions, like not having to rely on fucking Amazon Games Studios as a global publisher. Having competent project managers that know how to budget and provide good enough content in a timely manner. Having devs actually work on their shit instead of pretending to work because some boomer retard needs his ass kissed and thinks time spent dawdling at work = real productivity.
Why do gookshills always trying to rope china to their side?
>>740645676where's the issue exactly? disrespecting our modern hero is not gonna get you anywhere
This video is a year old and it's still relevant.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g65GedpcMzUThe tl;dr version is, Japanese companies are run by ojisans who are afraid of risks. This is why SE never tried to make their own Genshin clone. This is why in 20 years no Japanese company ever tried to make their own GTA anime clone like NTE.The idea of a Japanese gacha is "anime IP that people already love so we can bait them in then EoS in a year". No risks. Nothing new. Just cashgrabs.
>>740645907Depends on what game the cute girl is from. Any of the final fantasies like Yuffie? Yeah sure, no problem. But Panty Fighter X Revenge of Dai Maoh? Lmao
>>740642337it's funny how perfectly that lines upamerica used to be big tits before ~2015
>>740645573>Literally the biggest franchise in the world. Even 100 year olds on their deathbeds know about it.>Nerdy
>>740646073what about Blue Archive?
>>740645979>if its like detective conanbased conan
>>740646146Not a japanese game?
>>740646227why not?
>>740646146You must be stupid if you think gacha trash or BA is popular in Japan at all outside of few filthy unwashed obnoxious otaku lol
>>740646246because koreans made it and not square enix?
>>740646313why didn't they make it? why did the koreans make it instead?
>>740646351Because >>740645205Anyway is there any korean named character or korea culture event, hanbok in BA yet? What about BA Korea server?
>>740646351Because again, Japs treat gacha like they do anime for the most part, i.e. extended advertisement for the source material. For example Bandai Namco makes gundam games in the hopes that you buy their gunplas.
>>740645204>>740643647is there a way to play it on your own server now, the way there is for genshin?
>>740646427>>740646432so what about Blue Archive girls are so disgusting to the Japanese? how are they different from Yuffie?
Japanese gachas are runs by yakuza. They don't deserve royalty
>>740646351They don't want to pay for 50 doujin mangakas to stay relevant :^)
>>740645907>embarrassed by a girl acting cuteYeah, have you tried interacting with women who act like kawaii animu?
>>740646054>implies that gacha games are fun>implies that Chinese and Korean gachas aren't designed to make money first and be good never
>>740646597if you like this you are a disgusting cockroach and should be ashamed
>>740646504>so what about Blue Archive girls are so disgusting to the Japanese? how are they different from Yuffie?She is from the 90s and doesn't look like generic modern moeshit
>>740646504Because blue archive is a pedo game where you collect underaged girls. Yuffie is from a beloved fantasy RPG about saving the world. Are you pretending to be dumb? This is why Square Enix has an Ethics Committee because of dumb people like you.
>>740646615If it's not fun no one would play it. See: Tribe Nine
>>740646652Yuffie is also underaged though?
See >>740646597 , weebs will thing this is cute, kawaii, moe but for normal people and japanese, this is just cringe. If you show them this shit, or if they catch you watching this shit, they will look at you like a filthy subhuman
>>740646701Cloud doesn't act creepy around her nor is she a potential love interest. She's just an energetic and mischievous girl.
>>740642197Because Japan has become even more of a vassal state and.since the dollar is more powerful than their yen, they have been suffering economical suppression so when the rats come over and throw cash their way for the message, they goatse with glee.
>>740646054I hope we get a BG3 clone from China/Korea...
>>740646687>If it's not fun no one would play it.Who's gonna tell him
>>740646805I honestly just want an ultra autistic chink RTS where you control girls front line girls.
>>740646542Doesn't look like their strategy of "making licensed shovelware slop that ends service in 6 months" makes their IPs any more relevant either though. Probably costs a lot more than paying twitter artists and doujinshi artists to make porn too.
>>740646754>She's just an energetic and mischievous girl.just like my ibuki chan!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPeiuvUr2IA
>>740645556Jews gotta shill their dying western industry.
>>740646937>SENS-Immediately muted and closedKys pedo
>>740645556>>740646976The most prominent group that shills korean and chinese gacha and are anti-jap are seaniggers, not jews.
>>740644502>only for the exact opposite to happen?the opposite didn't happen tho
What’s going on with gook today? Is there any political unrest in Korea or what?
>for some reason japs will never make a high budget gachasloppa so we have to deal with CCP funded wuxia shit in every single fucking game because it is mandated by their government as a cultural export
>>740647026triggered?
>>740647076
>>740646549nta but yeah, what's the problem exactly?
>>740643963>worst, most predatory gacha system to come out in like 6 years>absolutely zero content>factory content is just build and forget and isnt actually meaningfully integrated into the progression what so ever Has the best models in the market though.
>>740647191>webtoonSir, this is a video game board.
chiinaman here, I warned you about gooky. They are way more mental than any asian
>>740647151>so we have to deal with CCP funded wuxia shit in every single fucking game because it is mandated by their government as a cultural exportAnd those aren't gacha. Those historical games like Blood Message are their equivalent of getting big historical epics like Braveheart or Troy back in the 90s and 2000s. It's made by chinks for chinks. They still make their anime gacha like whatever mihoyo and its copycats are doing.Japan isn't making gacha sloppa for the aforementioned reasoning that they do not see gacha as a source of income that's worth bothering with. Gaming companies can stand on their own making normal games. Look at the immense success Capcom is enjoying right now with Resident Evil. They don't need gachas for that.
>>740647191you gonna use some words or something, mate?or is that too hard for you
>>740642197Literally because Japanese men are lonely sexless virgins
>china :(>japan china :0
>>740647329What words? Your bootleg manga is failing everywhere, m8
>>740647384Just reminded me that Koei Tecmo is making a new Wo Long sequel. I guess Nioh 3 flopped lol
>>740647329>Korean webtoon companies are facing a dilemma. As the growth of the domestic market continues to slow down, they are withdrawing from overseas markets due to continued losses>Kakao Entertainment’s webtoon platform Podo Comics, operated in China in collaboration with Tencent, will terminate its service on July 1. The company entered the Chinese market, the world’s second-largest content market, in 2021. It is ending its operations after four years due to problems such as illegal webtoon distribution. Kakao Entertainment also ceased its webtoon services in Indonesia and Taiwan last year. Another Kakao Group company, Kakao Piccoma, liquidated its European subsidiary last year.>NHN has also decided to terminate its webtoon service Pocket Comics in English-speaking countries and France in October this year. Riding on the global growth of the webtoon market, NHN had expanded its services to Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Germany, but has wrapped up all these operations since last year. NHN plans to operate its Korean webtoon platform Comico only until October this year and focus on its business in Japan, the largest comic market.>Korean webtoon companies, which entered overseas markets seeing growth potential, are closing their businesses one after another due to lower-than-expected revenues. At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.
>>740647490>It also unfolds as the country's web comic industry faces stagnating growth and setbacks overseas. Webtoon Entertainment, Naver Webtoon's US-listed parent company, reported operating losses of $125 million last year. Its stock was trading at $9.34 as of Tuesday, down from a post-initial public offering high of $26 following its June 2024 debut.>Major players have retreated from international markets, with NHN shuttering services in the United States, Britain and France, while Kakao pulled out of Europe, Indonesia, Taiwan and China.>Meanwhile, data shows readers continue to spend less time on webtoon apps. Naver Webtoon users logged an average of 426 minutes in June, down from 481 minutes in June 2024, according to local analytics firm MobileIndex. Kakao Webtoon fell from 153 to 129 minutes in the same period.>"It's fair to say that YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitors," said a Korea Creative Content Agency official who requested anonymity. "They share similar service styles and reader approaches. As webtoon subscribers migrate to short-form, it's become a threat to industry growth."
the funny thing is that nobody in these threads are chinese, korean, or japanese. its all just filipinos, indonesians, and malaysians who project themselves onto these other asian countries.
>>740647617I mean what else would it be? SEAnigs are the only ones who speak decent english and east asians have their own hivemind social media sites. Why the fuck would they go here lol. t.pinoynigger
>>740647617No asian like South Korea though
>>740647714Nah Kpop and kdrama is a part of culture in flipland since the late 2000s.
>>740647591>YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitorsThat's hilarious. Have they considered that maybe the comics themselves are the problem?
>>740647395>but my clickbait journalism said!words to support "korean webtoons are dead"
>>740645049they have the experience, but companies are risk adverse in japanIf they made blue archive the game would be probably 5x as jewish
>>740647828What make your source more trustworthy
>>740647827>Companies blaming anyone but themselvesLmao, still webtoons are low effort garbage.
wtf is a webtroon.VIDEO GAMES, NIGGERS. VIDEO GAMES.
>>740647910This is a SEAnig thread. Subhumans here are too poor to afford real vidya.
>>740647885>according to the 2025 industry survey report released by the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism and its affiliate, the Korea Creative Content Agency.why argue? you can check for yourself if it's true, via the korean ministry
>>740647692koreans have very good english funnily enough, they don't go here though
>>740647828https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=244933
>>740645049CCP provides an absurd amount of funding to these companies to instill pro-chinese sentiment to the foreign market jap dev companies are all ran by aging retards with no visionjaps are historically extremely risk averse and are consistently 10 years behind the rest of the modern world when it comes to exports
>>740642197homegrown art?
>>740647990Honestly don't know what social media they use because I don't see them much on twitter either. Maybe instagram?
>>740647828>data from 2024lolhttps://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/financial-reporting/article/97769-another-lackluster-quarter-for-webtoon.html
I will not buy Samsung
>>740647959Keep melty
>>740648156>opens website>article is about 2024 earningsare you actually retarded?the image you are replying to is end of FY2025, you are beyond stupid
>>740642197Because aside from Uma Musume and Gakuen Idolmaster, all the jap gachas look like cheap shit. Nips just don't care about giving their own productions proper budgets and actually trying to make big games, except Capcom and SE, but these two make mediocre games meant to appeal to westerners and that doesn't appeal as much to easterners
>>740647984> Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism and its affiliate, the Korea Creative Content Agency.>Korea government >trust worthy LMAO
>>740647910its just vertical comics, but even less quality since no one bothers drawing backgrounds anymore since quantity wins over quality these days. 99% of authors make the same shit too so its imperative your "story" moves at a faster pace than others to ensure you get more hits
>>740648246Nigga webtroon are shutting down every single one of their servers in the world except kr and jp, that’s why you know they are fucked. Shit will get btfo just like their manhwa
>>740648345so what's your thesis, that the korean govt is misrepresenting webtoon profits?i mean, it's not impossible, they do this kind of shit. but these kinds of lies come out sooner or later.>>740648519>webtroon [sic] are shutting down their serverswebtoons is a genre, anon.and so what if a company shuts down, chinese gacha companies have been shutting down left and right for a decade and they are booming. use your head
>>740647591>It also unfolds as the country's web comic industry faces stagnating growth and setbacks overseas. Webtoon Entertainment, Naver Webtoon's US-listed parent company, reported operating losses of $125 million last year. Its stock was trading at $9.34 as of Tuesday, down from a post-initial public offering high of $26 following its June 2024 debut.>Major players have retreated from international markets, with NHN shuttering services in the United States, Britain and France, while Kakao pulled out of Europe, Indonesia, Taiwan and China.What is OWARI DA in Korea?
This thread is very interesting.
>>740646054Yeah, this nigga has some good yappings about what goes on here in Japan (where I moved to and have been living for almost a decade now).E.g.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyIk3rOswbohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBM5wRv8JEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZwnN_f8i4
>>740648645> and so what if a company shuts downThey are the biggest corpos and publishers who invented this kind of atrocious bootleg manga. You could say they are the nintendo, steam, sony of weebtroon
>>740648147arcanaver
>>740647828Kek
I love seeing gacha haters here seethe endlessly.
>>740642197And this is a 2015-tier gacha that was late to the party. The power of 11/10 character designs.Imagine if it was a 2026-tier gacha.
>>740643072>DA JOOOOshut the fuck up, chinkcel
>>740648246Its joe over…https://www.koreajoongangdaily.com/lifestyle/k-pop-k-dramas-and-webtoons-put-korea-on-the-map-is-their-time-running-out/12216079
>>740649094Nikke is released in 2022 though
>>740644728>literally no strategy or skill requiredif you just autobattle you get your shit kicked in in the later stages
>>740648737so noted. so it's a SEGA moment
>>740642337Kys tendiejeet
>>740643647HSR is not extreme power creep you fucking secondary. If you want extreme power creep go play older gacha games where old characters are completely unusuable. You can still clear fine in HSR with older characters. Just boohoo you can’t 1 cycle like you can with whaled most recent ones.
>>740649541>Just boohoo you can’t 1 cycle like you can with whaled most recent onesSo powercreep
>>740642197>Why did Korean/Chinese people spend so much money on Jap goychaslop instead of their own wonderful homegrown art? Are they stupid? No wonder God keeps sending them natural disastersYeah, it's a wonder
>>740647191>webtoongooks need to stop using that stupid format.
>>740646054In the mid-00s, Japanese game companies got it into their heads that Japanese-style games were niche and that in order to appeal to a large audience, you needed to mimic Halo and Call of Duty. They separated games out into unambitious low scale Japanese-style games and mostly outsourced games that chased the Call of Duty audience.It almost killed their industry and they still haven't completely recovered in terms of expertise. The premise wasn't any more true in 2006 than it is in 2026, BTW.
>>740649775>Japanese game companies got it into their heads that Japanese-style games were nichethis was because of faggot journos, goons, and dudebros emitting this culture pollution nonstop
>>740649541I stopped using Topaz for normal content because she was starting to feel worthless even there. Almost every boss in the game requires you to hit multiple enemies if you don't want to get stomped.
>>740650082All they had to do was look at their own sales. They were still doing good even by today's standards, and basic common sense says that if you have a saturated market that you don't specialize in vs. a less saturated market where you're the leader, you choose the latter.Leaders in any industry need to have a spine and a brain.
>>740642197Those are all zainichi koreans with low morals. Learn history idiot.
>>740642197Because Japan lost in videogames just like they lost in space, robotics, software and AI
>>740650526This is the moral level of the Japanese
>>740642337You guys are retarded. Nikke is way more about tits these days.
>>740650685Japan-bros, our response?I still prefer to live here than anywhere else, but things are looking good.
>>740642993>source>sensor tower
>>740642197I blame yayoi mutts for this
>>740650761Nikke has never felt the need to choose between the two. The girls are just fertility goddesses all the way around.This should be way more common in games.
>>740642337Why do you people keep associating big butts with middle eastern culture?I don't understand this psyop you're trying to run.You can hate jeets all day long, that's fine, but why bring male preferences into it?It's not like the east has a monopoly on women with big butts.
>>740642310>>740643179>>740642197I think there is an important distinction between the Japanese Console and Japanese Mobile base as a whole. Japanese Mobile Phone games are usually for Salaryman who go from the train and back home, which is why they enjoy short session games like Umamusume or Gakumas. They also do not care much about Anime Gacha as a whole, which is why it's very disposable in the same way South Korea and China see it because the Mobile Market is full of disposable games.Japanese Console market is largely for those who like to Game at home, or on the go but are not stuck in longer hours like their salary-man counterparts. This is why the Console Market is 34 million people as a whole and it's a different audience. The same thing can be applied in America because there is people who love Live Service and there are those who do not really care for it as a whole. Trying to say all the audiences are the same in a single country is misunderstanding the forest from the trees.
>>740642197Japanese companies make games for Americans, not for their own people.
>>740650978Just a schizo trying to make his shitpost stick and refuse to move on
>>740650086ignoring mechanics is brute forcing. Not like they arent gonna release another enemy where multi hitting and single targeting isnt gonna be best. And for these: the multiple enemy hitting dps get no benefit from it and a hunt feels vastly better for them
>>740649264I am amazed this game is so popular.I kept up for about 2 weeks then petered out and left after failing to pull Kitablack.But even before that, it is unbelievably fucking boring. It's grinding ffw'd shit over and over, picking from a menu to beat the same races over and over. It's unbearable. And the card gacha is like a worse version of Dragalia Lost because it's the same company.
>>740642559>Japanese Gacha is 3 generations behind South Korea and ChinaProduction Values do not equal equality my man. If it did 99.9% of Chinese games outside of Mihoyo would have made it.
>>740645486>>740645625I would make a recommendation for Umamusume over FGO for Japanese Gacha. I will say they have Sweeps, the roll's are good, and the Cygames system is very modern in Gacha economy especially if you pay for your monthlies and it has selectors for paid. The only thing I will say is to avoid the Scenario for Trackblazer and wait for Grand Live.
>>740650917
Asians should unite and go against WestDEIty not fighting among ourselves
>gacha game with most revenue is a game about collecting handsome menmalebros... gachas are not for us anymore
>>740651661>most revenuemobile only revenue, woman.
>>740650917What now, bitch?
>>740651324>I am amazed this game is so popular.Well you have to watch the Anime, have an IQ above 80 and actually pay into the system. Which clearly you lack those 3 things.
>740650685lol, which seanigger is this?
When will you retards understand that some games only have mobile revenue and some have 4+ forms of revenue.
>>740651510>>740651757Truly a big brain move to reply with two more sensor tower rankings
>>740651892>App store, google play data>sensor tower huh?
>>740651886Some Indonesian or Thai most likely lol. I always notice on X the Anti-Loli types are always in those two countries.
>>740642197Are gooks mad because Persona is more popular than their Stellar Gook Comfort women?
>>740651941do you know where sensor tower gets its data?
Gook being more rabid than chink is not on my 2025-2026 prediction
>>740646742And you are a halfwit who allows other people to dictate their behaviours and moods. How are you this fucking concerned over other people's perception of you and what you might like? It is truly ironic of you to call anyone a subhuman
>>740646630What do you like? Show us some examples
>>740642197Ultimately it boils down to people running away from censorship.There's no point in making this discussion more complicated than it actually is.
>>740651886
>>740642197>is this bikinischizo?
>>740653437>And you are a halfwit who allows other people to dictate their behaviours and moods. How are you this fucking concerned over other people's perception of you and what you might like?This is why people hates obnoxious otaku and weeb btw
>>740655257Ever thought of getting an education? You're like a toddler just barely able to communicate in englishAlso, nobody gives a shit about otakus or weebs, that's just your autistic projection, thirdie
>>740655443Tell Japan about it, not me. No one want to associate with some obnoxious smelly otaku
Women and Salary Men are the ones who play these garbage games
>>740642353Gook gacha offers about the same experience as Japanese kusoge while being 'free'. There's just no way to compete using a traditional business model.
It’s funny how you gook trannies are keep ignoring posts like this>>740651757>>740649667>>740649264
>>740645070>>740645567I think you're lost cause you clearly forgot what board you're on right now. Also if you're going to samefag at least try and be subtle about it, it's pathetic.
>>740650978whites and asians use to have nice tight ass and nice tight waistlines before jews pushed nigger culture down our throats, now women want to look like overweight whores with asses unnaturally fat and disgusting. its fucking gross and im firmly conviced ass men are fucking faggots, your entire preference is based on a shithole that spews shit, i have no doubt that you faggots would fuck faggot asshole if it was a "nice shape" you shitdick fat fucking faggot.
>>740655848What website are you on right now?
>>740655848>>740655689
>>740655618It's not even a matter of monetization or production value. Japanese gachas don't have any better story or gameplay. In terms of "real" game qualities, they're total slop. It might be pathetic in its own way, but Korean and Chinese gachas at least care about the product they're making and put real effort into them. The gooks genuinely care about coomer degeneracy, and the chinks genuinely care about their bloated flowery bullshit. Maybe it's because the Japanese have an actual prestige games industry so only the worst dregs get shunted into gacha studios.
>>740642197>korea>uses gacha profit to fund actual games like stellar blade>japan>uses gacha money to make low effort slop, or uses actual games profit to franchise into gacha
>>740642559>like three generations behind Chinese/Korean games in terms of quality.uma from 5 years ago has better quality than modern open world chinkslopim@s has better quality than modern open world chinkslop
>>740656114>but Korean gachas at least care about the product they're making>Nikke: auto duck hunts>BA: auto grindfestAnd this is the 2 most popular korean gacha. The rest are the same auto grindfest trash nobody care about
>>740656218fuck off nigger uma is literally one of the worst gachas i have ever played who the fuck are you trying to fool with this nigger shit. >banners are rate down>.5 rate for banners>huge timesink>wants you to play as a second job at least 5 hours a day for anything competitive>the entire horse legacy system is dogshit>the rng on legacy skills is fucking dogshit>everything you do is unrewarding and you never see any progress outside of extreme rng. fuck you nigger, i like management sims but uma is fucking garbage shit made to remove peoples money from wallet more than almost any other gacha i have ever fucking played and your not even fucking rewarded for having your money removed like in nikke or literally 95% of the other gacha games.
>>740656143>uses gacha profit to fund actual games like stellar bladeGo ahead, I dare you to name another Korean company besides Shift Up that actually uses its gacha profits to fund real games. If you don’t reply to my post, your mom will die horribly in her sleep tonight
>>740656391iron saga used its money to make a fighting game, but literally only like 100 people care about mecha, fighting games, and iron saga together so it went nowhere.
/v/ won’t trick me into playing gacha
>>740656476if your not retarded and don't spend money theres plenty of perfectly fine strategy games hidden behind gachapon bullshit.
>>740656431>iron sagaNot korean you fucking moron cockeater
i haven't gotten to use this image in ages, but fuck off nigger all of you rook same.
>>740656296keep playing your 50/50 chinkslop with static face expression models lol
>>740656501>perfectly fine strategy games hidden behind gachapon
>>740656501>perfectly fine strategy games hidden behind gachapon bullshit
>royar grubberdon’t fucking >you me retard
>>740656627
>>740656569>say strategy games>this retard nigger links a genshit cloneit seems your brain is too small and too smooth to figure out the difference between shitty gook action games and turn based rpgs.
>>740656431>Hideous chink gundam copycatAre you a nigger?
villainness my beloved
>>740656671>turn based rpgsLike Honkai shitrail or brown shit 2 or GFL2?
>>740656745damn i can't believe he took some sanding paper to his cranium. yes you fucking retard nigger those are infact turn based games i can't believe your stupid ass managed to figure out out, good job retardo! try to pick ones that don't suck like horizon walker, last origin, or any of the final fantasy ones instead of cherrypicking dogshit.
>>740656836Then you're a dumbfuck because there are nothing fine strategy about these dog shits
>>740642353Japanese studios haven't made a good game since 2012
>>740656836>try to pick ones that don't suck like horizon walker, last originlol
why do gachaniggers pretend their gameplay isn't curated to the shitty casuals who just want to press button to win ga,e
>>740656745>gfl2 strategy be like>roll Voymastina>get another 5 copies of Voymastina>get 6 copies of Voymastina weaponsBoom, you've cleared the game, everything will die at turn start
>>740656995the more "gameplay" a gacha has the worse it isif it doesn't have auto play then i have no idea why anyone would bother with it
>>740651234this>>740655918no
>>740642197The final step in ending Japanese cultural relevance is waiting for Takaichi to bring in all the Indian workers to impregnate Japanese women.
>>740642993well, that last war survival and whiteout survival are literally spending most of their profit on ads lmao
For me it's gambling refining weapon in Korean MMO and lost the weapon + hours of my life forever
>>740658179You know it's fake new, right?>Japanese cultural relevanceEveryone Asian know about Pokemon, Doraemon, anime, manga, every asia artists are using Japan artstyle and every asian developers are copy Japanese games. Whatever you say, Japs are already won the cultural war
>>740658179>The final step in ending Japanese cultural relevance
Gacha games suck dick but faggots are too busy moralfagging over gacha mechanisms (which is the same shit as rare drops in MMOs) to pinpoint the core of the problem: game as a service. These "games" are raped by daily/weekly shit, FOMO events/sales, and a cookie clicker stats go up gameplay loop.
>>740656228You're just describing a problem inherent to all gachas. They all have shitty gameplay. Even the open world slop devolves into boring ass mindless dailies. It has to be endlessly repetitive as a core function of its purpose. No matter how "good" the gameplay is at the start, after the 1000th time you'll be begging for an auto resolve button .
>>740658674Those are also the same as MMO
>>740658179I don’t know about the end of Japanese cultural relevance when jap anime shit is everywhere, but the end of the white race is near
>>740642197OP is a newfag. Japanese people spend way more money on race horses than gacha games>The Japan Racing Association (JRA) handles upwards of $$20 billion to $25 billion in total betting turnover annually.
>>740658745Compulsion-driven bugmen MMOs were the precursor to gacha. Fuck them both
>>740658742Yes, and for some reason the niggers on this board keep attacking Japan when there are thousands of shit ass chinese and korean auto grindfest gachashit EoS every months
>>740658896Because when you strip away the one commonality you can easily compare what's left.
>>740658891XIV also have daily, weekly, fomo event, sales, subscription
All gachas are bad and are not valid on the same length as real videogames, much like GAAS or MMOs. You may enjoy them, but do not let them ever replace actual videogames for you.
>>740642337We should remove japan's honorary aryan title now
>>740647910I don't know but you're a faggot for acting like a jannie
post doros
>>740645625hell, there are even still westoids who are sticking with Kancolle even as the game is an insanely punishing flash game that hasn't had ANY form of qol since 2018 and tried to beat every westoid out with a stick. I played from 2013 to 2021 and if I was held at gunpoint to pick it up again I'd ask for a double tap. GFL1 and Trickcal for me now. I have double dipped on the chink and gookpills and nothing the nips are doing these days interests me. Squeenix shovelware gachas is just an embarrassment.
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>>740659094Even so Korea only has 2 mildly popular gachas while Japan has 6 popular gachas and China has 8. And there is nothing technology impressive about Nikke and BA
>>740660362>japan has 6
>>740642197>Nikke>18th placeI don’t play gatchashit but considering how much /v/ shills this slop I always thought it was on the top 5 at least.
>>740642197japanese gacha devs didn't bother making games with higher production values
>>74066060118th place for a game not even half a decade old should be pretty good, no? I don't play mobile games so I'm not sure though.
>>740660573Pokemon tcg, monster strike, P&D, FGO, Uma, idol master gakuen, dokkan
>>740660647>higher production values>open world slop with particle effects #53627473
>>740660601Yeah, seeing all this why japs love Nikke so much posts in this thread, i thought it was the number one gacha or some shit but it was only the 18th
>>740642197I think its embarrassing that gooks and chinks have to pretend to be Japanese in the first place. None of these fucking games would last a month if they tried to be genuinely Chinese/Korean.
>>740660857I'm just saying I've never played a Japanese gacha that had HSR or ZZZ prod valuesThose games arecomplete ass because they're written for people with 80IQ but it's true that they're much higher quality in terms of assets and animation. I assume that's what allowed them to eat the Japanese devs' lunch. It's not like the Japanese gacha games had good writing or gameplay to make up for the lack of prod values, they're all about as bad from those perspectives but made more cheaply
I like nikke because it panders to me as a 40 year old balding man who likes big butts and boobs
>gook game>enemies spit at you
>>740659341>subscription>expansion (doesn't come with sub)>cash shop>some cash shop items are limited time>downloading the game requires an active, ticking sub>your virtual house is demolished if you stop subbing for too long>getting a full set of the latest endgame gear requires around two months of sub because of weekly limitsFFXIV is kikery incarnate.
>>740661046Because the Japanese haven’t discovered AI yet
>>740661190Why gook games always full of Jap references? Even the robot is just sentai ranger shit instead of their Mazinger ripoff Taekwon V some shit lol
>>740644716Western games often have stilted translations into Japanese, gachas are made domestically or by China, who have better translators with a more solid understanding of Asian languages in general.This is a bigger deal than you might think.
>>740642197Damn, OP has a seriously unhealthy obsession with Japan
>>740642197because their own game industry started pandering to the west, so all of it became ugly and retarded
>>740661881Because Koreans and Chinese are grew up with Japanese media, sentai, tokusatsu , anime, manga, hentai, and games instead of their own stuff that nobody cared about, not even themselves
>>740650978Ask the demographic that has women who think BBL looks good
>>740662256Are you replied to yourself?
>>740662250Honestly white pigs have no idea how ridiculously massive jap media were across all of Asia.
>>740643179>FGO>WorkloadLMAO. It's literally doing reruns on NA because they had nothing. OC is called Ordeal Stall. They can't even make high resolution images.They've been banking 98% of the money they earn.
>>740662250>are grew up
>>740662256>deletedlol
>>740662428Sorry, i'm asian, not whittu piggu. But it's all true though
>>740642197>ranks 18th
>>740661881i'm tired of references slop. i don't spend my time watching every movie so most of time i don't know what is what. millenials truly is the worst generation.
how is this costume going to help the outer rim?
>>740642197>Rank 18th in cumulative revenue among anime-styled mobile gamesSuch a perfect example of small fry thinking he is some kind of hot shit
Haven't read the thread.You're all replying to bikini schizo.
>>740642197>shitflinging between eastern gachaI think that the more interesting thing to focus on is that Sony WISHES that any of the games in their live service rush were ever going to be even half as successful as these games. Hell, 25%. 10% if you're looking at the absolute top.
>>740642337Brother the game isnt even about giant asses anymore... this skin is $60 and has no ass or jiggle.
>>740661803He sounds like a greedy fat bitch using AI as an excuse for being cheap. People play Stellar blade because it blatantly panders to gooners which no other studio does to that extend, It's not because they produce quality, gameplay and story are mid at best
>>740642197japan should stop being a fucking pussy and have the balls to start a big gacha game project, they have the same advantage as korea over china because of less censorship... I'm not sure how awful is to treat with banks or/and the government in Japan when it comes to offering support to those ideas tho. That honestly might be one of the important reasons they can't start something like that
>>740663878why did they remove all the giant asses?
>>740664691>apan should stop being a fucking pussy and have the balls to start a big gacha game project, they have the same advantage as korea over china because of less censorshipJapan and Korea simply doesn’t have China advantages of billion population and cheap as dirt man power, dumbass
I will continue playing nikke while it panders to white males like me
>>740651126>short session games like UmamusumeWhat?Umamusume has comically long dailies. MANT run takes around 60 minutes, if you're fast. Also the gameplay is just eternal, sweaty fishing for the godly high roll. There's nothing in the horse training loop that displays "completed/finished/you are now the best". You can do an insane high-roll and even then, an even more insane high-roll is possible. It's the ultimate autist maze and time sink.
>>740664950Their company went public
>>740665918>MANT run takes around 60 minutesHow? It took me like 30 minutes at best
>>740666064oh, that's incredibly sad
>>740664287>Chatgpt give me a story that very similar to Nier automata with religion god adam eve and human and shit but not too similar And stellar blade was born with Eve, the most bland female protagonist of the decade
>>740666073You need to look at the shop and plan your buys and shop points and race a lot. 30 min is nowhere near enough. I could believe a 45 min speedrun. Post horse you made and with what deck.
>>740666872>You need to look at the shop and plan your buys and shop points and race a lotWell, i just buy stats boost and maybe shoes, deck is kitasan black and some SR cards
>>740667036>S horsesThe context was, OBVIOUSLY, a competent, and good run of MANT taking around 60 minutes. If you're willingly generating glue and bricks, you are an anomaly and stupid and not a good example of what is expected from a normal player. If you did a McQueen fail career in URA, you wouldn't say "my URA careers take 2 minutes!", would you? WOULD YOU?
>>740667882Champion Cup? I’m always in Group A 1st place for Medium and Long. Mile Cup is the worst though. I don’t really care about pvp in gacha, i just like cute horse girls
>>740642197Literally why? This is a flash-game tier game at yue very best.
>>740642197because you dont have stats for japanese arcades so you're making shit up with the tiny information you have
>>740645983>Good animations, notably 3D. Hell, even 2D (which is just live2D nowadays).judging by the webms people post in these threads, gooks and chinks don't have the experience either, so it must be something else
>>740645171>the obvious answer is to pander to the chinese market instead butThey'd still have to self-censor all the same, you'd get post-maintenance Snowbreak levels of shit right off the bat. The raunchier chink gacha get away with it due to CCP connections. They'd use the opportunity of japs focusing on their marker to undercut nip business and soft power.
>>740642197What >>740642559 saidChink and gook games are more weeb than the jap ones
>>740662565People still care about FGO?
>>740661314>chink game>party member eats your dog companion
>>740672119>Chink and gook games are more weeb than the jap ones>weeb than the jap ones???
>>740672923> People still care about FGO?Yes? Do people still care about Toyota?
>>740672119>Chink and gook games are more weeb than the jap onesOf course, how can Japan be weeb when it’s the source of all that stuff in the first place?
>>740647073(((They))) Literally spent the 10+ last years shitting on asians games in general, faggot.
>>740647321>Japan isn't making gacha sloppa for the aforementioned reasoning that they do not see gacha as a source of income that's worth bothering with.SE.Cygames.
>>740642197Because japanese weebs aren't racist. They just go to where the quality is.
>>740642197The new character ass too fat
>>740660601>>740660964>I always thought it was on the top 5 at least.Currently? It is Nikke is 3 years old. There are gacha games older than 10
>>74066607330 minutes dailies are the standard in the industry, there's nothing special about that.It's also the reason why gacha addicts can play so many gacha at the same time.
>>740680757Well, it say right in the OP it rank 18th in revenue among anime-styled mobile games
>>740677978Try 20
>>740681679all time revenue
>>740642197They play fgo
>>740675542Based
>>740682824It's literally say global cumulative revenue right there>>740642197. You don't know how to read?
>>740642310gacha is mixtape for weebs
>>740642310>that will EOS after a yearJapanese people defend this btwLook at their outrage about that Nier MMO getting brought back by fansThey unironically spend all their free cash on gachas and MMOs that go EOS in a year and say that it's the equivalent of spending money at a restaurant, that you're paying for an experience, not to own something forever And yes they also despise game and animanga piracy and emulation for the same reasons
>>740683251yes it is the 18th most profitable anime gacha right now in 3 yearsWhat's hard to understand here?
Japan is like that one prodigy kid who peaked at a young age, then plateaued and never really did anything with their talent.
>>740645608>Those anime themed gacha you see Square Enix or Bandai Namco makes? Those weren't designed to be sustained for a long amount of time. They're basically limited edition virtual merchandize for fans of the anime or video game.That's some massive cope, holy shit.SE has a TERRIBLE reputation in the various japanese gacha communities because of that.>They usually have a shelf life of 1 or 2 years before getting taken down More like 6 months to a year.>and they absolutely do not careYou're right about that and that's exactly why their gacha are avoided.Guess how many FF gacha there is and how many are still alive?
>>740684410So the 18th, not in the top 5
>>740684919Do you mean talent at making gacha shit?
>>740683991Why are you guys acting like Japan gacha are the only one that go EoS? This Chinese gacha shut down after two weeks, and there are hundreds more CN and KR gacha games that reach EoS like this
>>740656501You know there are 40 years of more than fine strategy games you could play that don't require you to eat around the mtx and fomo poop?
The biggest Korea gacha, The GBF killer, The Genshin Slayer. It hit EoS in less than a month btw
