Why are healers so punishing to play as in multiplayer games?????
>>740652532Everyone needs them and no one wants to play them. It's also easy to blame the healers not healing you in time when you suck
>>740652532The real enemies were the allies we made along the way
>>740652623>>740652532This but tank
what if we dont turn this into an agp thread?
>>740652623Just don't play with randoms. My friends don't criticize me because they are afraid of having to play support instead.
its easy to heal if your teammates are not retards who dont feed
I need heeling.
>>740652623>It's also easy to blame the healers not healing you in time when you suckThis is the most important part to note. If you're playing some other archetype in multiplayer you're only interacting with the enemy team who you have reason to be antagonistic toward anyway. But if you're playing a healer then you're interacting with your own team which means if things go bad they'll be antagonistic toward you due to the belief you didn't heal well enough. Psychologically if the enemy team is antagonistic it's another tribe and the enemy, but if your own team is then it's your tribe and feels worse
Why are multiplayer games designed around 1/3rd of the players in the game being stuck in designated cuck roles that most people don't want to play? Don't bring that mmo shit into FPS and you won't have this problem. Design games from the ground up so that everyone is meant to kill things like Battlefield does.
>>740652532It always kills me how healfags and dpsfags are locked in an eternal "woe is me war" because someone tells them to do their job, while tank players have to traverse every circle of hell every game
>>740652880>most people don't want to play?Most Overwatch streamers are support mains. Support is very popular for casuals and women. Tank is the role you’re less likely to find.
>>740652880There’s a percentage of players that play Skyrim and think “I’m going to read all the books I come across”, or play foxhole and think “I want to be the guy doing logistics and driving the supply truck. Healer roles give these types of gamers a reason to try the team shooter because they clearly don’t give a fuck about killing the enemy or whatever.
>>740653061Yeah, the Queue time for OW is usually 1:4:2 in OW, and sometimes healers take longer to find games than dealers
>>740652623It's the healer's job to heal me and only me. I'm literally the DPS carry. Can't keep you on my back if you don't keep my alive.
>>740652623It's not the early 00s anymore. Games have tank shortages, there are always enough gays/women/cucks lining up to play them
>dps sucks and kills slowly Healer heals more>dps stands in badHealer heals more>dps/tank doesn't use defensivesHealer heals more>tank has shit gearHealer heals more>people don't prioritize dangerous targets Healer heals more>people don't interrupt dangerous abilities Healer heals more>new guy doesn't know mechanics Healer heals more>teammates don't los behind terrain Healer heals more>opponents have ridiculous gearHealer heals more >teammate forgot healing consumables Healer heals more>dad gamer tends to toddler, distractedHealer heals more>dps gets silenced/cc'd, can't dpsHealer heals more>team is outnumbered Healer heals more>guild unlucky with drops or best players get poached Healer heals more>speed-run strat uses fewer healersHealer heals more>speed-run strat trades defense for more damage Healer heals more hps over shorter period
>>740652532Because you get 4 or 5 retards in your team thinking they can overextend at the same time because they have a healer that is there to exclusively babysit their ass.
>>740652532>roll a healer class>you aren't fighting the enemies, you're fighting to keep your stupid teammates alive>>740652969>dps acts like a retard and pulls aggro from the tank>let them die>healer has to deal with itQuit your bitching.
Literally no one bitches about healers in overwatch because they're the main DPS since they do more damage than half the DPS and can self heal.Tank is the only role that gets shit on in that game
>>740652969>wintank diff>losetank diffWhy would I EVER consider that I didn't play perfectly when I can just blame you?
DOC C'MON MAN
>>740652880>Design games from the ground up so that everyone is meant to kill things like Battlefield does.You mean the Battlefield where 90% of the game chat is people bitching that they're not getting rezzed?
>>740652532Imagine healing on support in overwatch lol
>>740652623I can't imagine WANTING to play as a character who's only role is running around with another player and hoping they don't get you both killed. Actual cuck behavior.
>pocket me!wtf kinda retarded term is that?
>>740652532We need to destigmatize healsluts.
>>740654780When a healer is healing you the entire game he's basically in your pocket.
>>740652880>Why are multiplayer games designed around 1/3rd of the players in the game being stuck in designated cuck roles that most people don't want to play?support is the most played role in OW, sometimes lagging behind DPS a bit depending on the seasonyou get tricked into thinking tank is the gigachad big penis role because they're big and there's only 1 of them per team, but in reality it's the cuck role
>>740652532little boys
>>740652532i hate the ow2 redesigns so fucking much, they all lack personality. peak soul vs soulless
>>740652880>Don't bring that mmo shit into FPS and you won't have this problem.Well Blizzard wanted people who don't like shooting play the game
>play medic>not gay or weak because unlike healer, medic is a fighting role first and foremost
>>740652623I love playing healer :)
>>740652880>flashback to clips of medics going around with paddles before BF6 shitted farted and died
>>740652532>playing with randomsshiggy diggy
>>740658773Agree but I make a slight exception for Mercy just because I love bob cuts more than ponytails.
>>740658714I know what you are and when I'm done having copious amounts of roleplay sex I'm gonna channel my inner shota and find you.
i want to BE mercy
Juno > Mercy
>>740659946I want to shoot you out of the sky repeatedly until your team asks why you're sitting in spawn adding me on battlenet
>>740654670>>740658941BF3 and 4 were the best ones for medics. You could res while also getting fun things like grenade launchers to mass murder enemy squads inbetween heals and res.
>>740652532>Why are healers so punishing to play as in multiplayer games?????Because the majority of people are fucking retards, and retards play like fucking idiots that make your job more difficult, who will blame you for not mediating their idiocy/shit playing.Let's be honest, DPS and Tanks are literally the retard gravitating classes with very grug-tier mindedness: one for those who want to feel like a powerful warrior and the other who want to feel like a badass anime assassin. A retard will never gravitate towards a class that purveys and monitors, offering support.
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>>740652532Punishing my ass, they are the biggest reason ow is as shit as it is, braindead to play but deliver the most value. Most whales seems to be healers so blizzard keeps them broken so the whales are happy.
I am making a game where you are a healer and all your team members are retards
>>740660306It takes situational awareness and positioning to play well in OW. MR players who swap just go out and get blown up expecting a stray heal to give them full heals and 2k overshield while they have no cover.
EXCUSE ME, I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVILjrp7A5U
>>740652532Becuase Healers are simultaneously the most important, most broken, and most braindead role in pretty much every single MOBA and MMO ever.Most games and genres would be better if you completely removed the idea of a dedicated healer role. Why? Becuase ultimately, what is a healer? They are sustain. All a healer role does is offset and hog the sustain role onto a single player. Instead of evey player being responsible for their own sustain. There's a reason why MOBA s are strictly worse PvP games than all none mobas. Or why MMOs with healers are worse than those that don't use the trinity.
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>>740652692I play tank. Even when I mess up people blame the healer.
A lot is expected of them, but when you go in not expecting heals but getting them then you're appreciative, really brats gunna cry nomatter what though, always someone else's fault.
>>740652532I liked rolling a healer in wow classic. Fun to micromanage mana. And if someone but tank dies, not my problem, your fat ass should've not pulled aggro or stood on aoe. Being shortlisted to dungeons and raids is also a nice bonus.
I'm too stupid to play healer or tank so I was always relegated to dps
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>>740658419ReinGODs and DoomBVLLs aren't cucks tho
>>740659946>Almost 40 years old German hag cosplaying as an Asian teenager from animuLol
tf2 medic is cool as shit to play with the crossbow you have people standing still and depending on you and they feel guilty about getting you killed since they know they'd lose every fight of they didn't get healed for 150 per fight
>>740652532>Make memes about how much it sucks ass to play a certain role in your game>Still enforce a role queue
>>740652532>>740660078A bigger factor in a game like OW is that the average support just sits in the backlines and watches everybody else make plays which makes it easy for them to dismiss everybody else as retards when things don't pan out even if they're the reason those plays don't work because they aren't actually supporting them. The mistakes a support makes are often not enabling their team to win the game rather than directly losing them it which is harder to notice and quantify for the average player than someone pushing too hard and dying. It's easy for a support to chalk up a DPS flanking, dying, and complaining about no heals as a whiny shitter even when he objectively was making a good play that would have won the game if the support player assisted him and a high MMR support would have immediately pushed to help him.
>>740663814Supports are literally the most catered to players in the game. They're just incredibly whiny.
>>740652623>no one wants to play themThat's because everyone has main character syndrome, where they cannot be just the support cast, they want to be the hero who gets shit done. Even if they don't get shit done and are just the fodder for the actual good players, who get shit done.
>>740668145You will never find someone more full of themselves than a good mmo healer.
>plays team game>solo queue>surprised when assholes are on the teameveryone playing these kinds of games is a retard
>>740652532because, same as for tanks, they have to do a lot of heavy lifting but will not really receive an appropriate reward (outside of shorter waiting times)it's also less fun. if you play a DPS, you can focus on dodging the boss mechanics while dishing out as much damage as you can. what the rest of the party does only concerns you in so far that you might wipe if the overall performance was bad.as a healer, you have to constantly babysit that one fucking retard which can turn even the easiest fights into a massive headache for you.I just let the retards die eventually, they contributed little to the damage anyway
>>740652532There is a reason why i'm not playing online games at all. Vidya time is "me time" and i want to play a game at my own pace. That means if i want to stand around and look at a chair for 10 minutes i will do just that and i don't want anyone to tell me to hurry up. Just like i don't want anyone in my game that impedes my progress. But most importantly i don't want the game(or the players) punishing me for playing my favorite class fantasy. If i want to play a sword/board warrior i don't want anyone to tell me i should switch to axes because they are just better or that ARs suck ass and i need to use SMGs.Besides all that being EU is a curse. You have to play with everyone from Ireland to Moscow and from Finland to Morocco. People either don't have a mic, if they do they don't speak english and if they do speak english it's basically incomprehensible gibberish.>no mic at all and probably blasting music so completely oblivious>open mic he doesn't know is open>open mic he doesn't care is open>voice activation that is too sensitive and picks up the fan>voice activation that is too strict and constantly cuts off>doesn't speak english and starts talking over in his language>blasting music through the mic but never talksI'd love to get into another MMO but the communities that tend to play MMOs are not people i want to spend any time with. Both, the sweaty parsers and the 50 year old schizo cat ladies.
>>740652532The real healer pain is when you LB3 at the wrong moment and everybody dies right after
>>740669132>tfw they report you for not picking them up again after theiir fifth death for "griefing"
>>740658419u avin a laff, pal?
>>740653061in OW, Support has more influence on the game than DPS does. Its easier to carry as a Support
>>740652532There are too many shit healers out there and measuring their performance isnt as easy as doing it with DPS.
>>740652532They are not.The best players play tank/healer in all cases. Deeeps are literally welfare leeches and fuck everything up by being shitters.
>>740671352>tanks>goodlowest skill ceiling class, deal with it
>>740672027Juggling retards like you is hard work.
>>740652532I like playing as a healer because it's the loadbearing role.
>>740671352For whatever reason, my IQ drops by ten points when I play as a DPS. I think it's because you're so focused on hitting the enemy as much as possible while as a healer, you're kinda half hanging back and keeping an eye on the big picture.
Healing shouldn’t exist only people who could allegedly do it were either literal deities or empowered by them how is that balanced
>>740673725Gameplay >>>>>>>> Realism
>>740673725Also casters can literally call down lightning, who do they think they are, Zeus?
>>740652532They require you to pay attention the the entire situation and have a fairly deep mechanical understanding to be able to do okay. Every role benefits from these things, but healer has it as thr minimum requirement.
Needa dispenser here
>>740654278This. Healers are basically professional tard wranglers. Absolute, non-stop tard wrangling
>>740673476If you're playing OW then, yeah, DPS is genuinely just harder and you need to focus more on mechanics while usually having a closer, more narrow view of things that makes it harder to keep track of everything. This discussion kinda sucks when it's so general because half the posters are probably talking about MMOs and others are talking about hero shooters and what makes sense for one is retarded for the other. Like >>740671352 is probably true if he's talking about MMOs but becomes absurd copium if he's talking about hero shooters.
>>740683230I'm talking about MMOs. I'm a good healer and I've carried parties through ridiculous shit, but my brain kinda enters autopilot sometimes when I'm a DPS.
