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>"finding logs and notes is bad video game storytelling"
>read a groundbreaking literary classic
>it is just found logs and notes
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>>740655859
Features that are good in a book may not be good in a video game, and vice versa. In the same way that having 4 wheel drive is great in a car, but not some thing I desire in a boat.
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>first third is kino
>middle is a snoozefest
>gets a bit more exciting towards the end again

Dracula was truly the first AAA video game
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>>740655859
show, don't tell. it's lazy.
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>>740655859
>translator hijacks the story
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>Tell my mom to stop doing some retarded shit
>She says she has done it in a retarded manner for 50 years so she keeps doing it
Very intelligent argument OP. old good
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>writes self-insert fanfiction
>hailed as the greatest work in all of italian literature
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>>740655963
The middle of story being a chore is partially due to the modern reader getting the story spoiled through pop culture osmosis alone. Dracula's true nature as a vampire is supposed to be spooky and mysterious and Van Helsing's revelations on fighting him are supposed to be a twist, but nowadays everyone knows Dracula's typical strengths and weaknesses without ever reading Dracula.
It is quite similar to how in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde being the same person is only revealed at the end of the story but basically everyone has had it spoiled through some reference or pastiche.
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>>740656217
Nothing ever changes
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Literally walking simulator: the book
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>>740656332
I normally like Lovecraft and his verbose writing style but this felt like a needlessly drawn out short story
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>>740656332
Wait until you read this.
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>>740656417
NTA, but those books have been on my list.
Are they good?
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>>740656285
>It is quite similar to how in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde being the same person is only revealed at the end of the story but basically everyone has had it spoiled through some reference or pastiche.
Pop culture has actually protected the Dr Jekyll and Hyde twist if anything, because he's almost always presented as the archetypal split personality; but the revelation at the end of the story is that there literally was never a "Mr Hyde" and Jekyll was always aware of what was going on, the potion just allowed him to let his darkest desires run wild.
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>>740655859
I think the criticism might have something to do with side characters using the last droplets of your own blood to write shit like >THEY KILLED HIM AND THEY ARE GOING TO KILL ME OH MY G [writing abruptly stops, and nothing but dark splotches remain on the rest of the page]
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>>740656535
The Night Land is the best story ever told in the worst possible way. I think that's the general consensus.
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>become the ultimate murderhobo adventurer by looting every shiny and magical thing within my grasp
there is no purpose to this post, i simply fucking love cugel
guess you can go play fighting fantasy adaptations: sorcery (inkle) and fabled lands (java or steam with some caveats), but gamebooks are an acquired taste
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>>740655859
Dracula, while probably groundbreaking when it came out, hasn't aged well as a compelling piece of fiction. The many adaptions almost always improve upon it.
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>>740655859
It's called Epistolary anon
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>>740656332
I was so disappointed. I was expecting Who Goes There + Lovecraft and all I got was BULLSHIT
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>>740657952
>hasn't aged well as a compelling piece of fiction. The many adaptions almost always improve upon it.
Explain yourself
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>>740657952
Still works as period piece.
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>>740655963
Van Helsing teaching how to hunt vampires is fun.
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>>740657952
None of the novel's adaptations surpass (or even equal) the novel itself. The story's methods of conveying chapters is crucial to the mystery, the immersion into the setting, understanding the characters, the pacing, and the themes.
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Bram Stoker's Dracula is nota "groundbreaking literary classic". It's a pulp novel that capitalized on the vampire trend going on in late 19th century Europe, and spurred a bunch of copycats and has been adapted tons of times so it persists in our culture, but nobody thinks Dracula is a literary master piece.
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>>740655859
dracula proves logs and notes are bad because they make the otherwise compelling story awful to read.
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>>740655859
>kino opening to the book
>suddenly shifts focus to foids going on and on about pointless bullshit
Dropped
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>>740656285
>Dracula's true nature as a vampire is supposed to be spooky and mysterious and Van Helsing's revelations on fighting him are supposed to be a twist

That's not what happens in the book at all though, it becomes very clear he's a supernatural monster very early on. Drinks blood, moves around at insane speeds, doesn't appear in mirrors, crawls down castle walls etc; Harker straight up says "What manner of man is this? Or creature in the shape of a man?"
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>>740660403
Isn't Dracula only like the third Vampire novel?
Like before, it was Carmilla and Vampyre but those are decades before Dracula was published
, calling that a trend is like saying there a trend of Japanese-made imm sims where only like two exist and are years apart
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>>740656217
>>740656317
This is Tumblr-tier literacy. The Divine Comedy wasn't even the first story of its kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_vision
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>>740663029
shitalianbro...
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The epistolary novel is the mark of the hack
>b-but Goethe did it!!!
Did I stutter?
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>>740656217
>>740663029
Divine comedy is, as you might guess, a comedy.
i don't think it should be taken too seriously, beyond the difficulty of making everything rhyme while also matching the syllables numbers.

that being said, it's actually not that far from tumblr-tier story.
>i self-insert into the MC, my idol is guiding me through this, all the people i don't like are getting their brains eaten in hell or something, my waifu is in heaven
>features gratuitous violence and even fart jokes
it's not too far from hazbin hotel
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>>740663934
It was one of the first literature works written in Italian. Dante basically invented the Italian language, that's its greatest merit and the reason why it is still studied in Italian schools
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>>740655859
there's so much media that people want a rule to dismiss as much of it for cheap cinemasins reasons as they can to both feel superior and less backlogged
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>>740663934
>Divine comedy is, as you might guess, a comedy.
That's not what it means, you absolute ignoramus clown.
It's just a reference to the fact that the structure was not that of a tragedy but that of a comedy, as in you did not have a happy beginning with a sad end but you had a sad beginning with a happy end.

Subhumans like you should just shut the fuck up.
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>>740664229
>Dante basically invented the Italian language,

wtf did they speak before it?
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>>740664229
it kind of happened retroactively, by making the florentian dialect the official language of italy



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