>PC gamers literally said let’s destroy our unique identity to become consoles with more stepsHow did so many people cheer this outcome in the early 2010s?
>I'm retardedThanks for sharing
50 cent games
that's rich coming from a phone fag
fuck off sweeney your just mad we didnt chose your shit platform
>>740662221They crave to be consolechads
>>740662315that's not a nice thing to call yourself.
Because then PC would have no games
Because everybody knows consoles are better. The endgame for PC is just to be a console with better hardware.
PC cucks voted and siad "yeah we want game licences and not ownership" while sucking at gabes cock and now they talk shit about consolesenjoy you Apple like ecosystem you dumb retards
>>740662507This too. Piracy was at its peak in the 2000s and yet they chose to pay instead
Nintendo has more movies and lawsuits coming out than games
>>740662535Your pc was at its peak virus infection too
When Half Life 2 released I was 14 but even then I thought it was stupid that I had to sign up for Steam. I only had 12KB/s (ISDN).However there is a giant blind spot everyone had where PC was declared DEAD AS FUCK during the xbox 360 era. People forget this, but consoles were the future in everyone's eyes. PC was a JOKE.But now in hindsight everyone's just going WAAAAHHHH I CAN'T BELIEVE VALVE PLAYED THE LONG GAME AND WON WAAAAAHHHH MONOPOLY!!!!!!That's what you get for backing short-sighted companies. Your fanboyism during the console wars was low IQ and retarded, you were an imbecile.
>>740662604Dead as fuck in this case meant the normies and 3rd worlders were gone. I want my platform to be dead so I can be left alone
>games are about "an identity"hang yourself in chatroom, fgt
>>740662221allkeyshop.com
>>740662221PC gamers did nothing, game devs are the ones who started porting everything to PC when they saw consoles were a sinking ship
>>740662725and thats if you dont or cant torrent anyways
>software distribution system for your PC with optional DRM devs don't need to enable is the same as proprietary software+hardware DRM boxes you have zero control overConsolefaggots are retarded niggers. I use GoG and back up offline installers btw.
>>740662221Do you feel somehow smart when inventing these retarded strawmans? I piss and shit on you and your worthless bait thread.
>>740662772>optional DRMwhy are steamcucks dishonest and evil?
>>740662604I'm convinced that whole PC is dead thing was a paid shill line, I never met anyone who believed it.
>>740662221I know this is just a bad faith bait thread but it was because steam was just more convenient. Physical games came with fucking retarded levels of DRM, worst offenders required online activation that was limited to 3 installations, ever. Reinstalling windows or upgrading your PC would consume an activation. Steam was a very reasonable choice in comparison, and since you needed internet to play anyway the discs were just an extra step.
>>740662535Piracy being at its peak in the 2000's is why the industry wanted PC gaming dead and treated all PC gamers like stinky thieves, Gaben actually saw them as customers and everyone started going back to PC when Steam grew in powerThere wouldn't be much left to pirate if the industry succeeded in ditching PC gaming
>>740662221For a good 5 or 6 years after it was released Steam was absolutely despised by PC gamers and was largely a failure. In the late 2010s people for some reason got into their mind that Steam invented sales and if you wanted to buy a game for cheap on sale literally the only place that could be done is Steam. After that Steam amped up the social media aspects of Steam and that brought in the retard normies.
>>740662539I haven't seen that template in forever
>>740662848Back in the day The Giant Bombcast (practically podcast pioneers, before youtubers) sucked off the xbox 360 so damn hard it was crazy to look back on.And there was a constant /v/ meme of "PC GAMING IS DEAD!" and people would spam these shitpost threads every single day. I remember this because it annoyed me, haha.
>>740662801saar use the fucking toilet
>>740662806There are games on Steam you can launch without Steam you dumb nigger. Devs have to enable the DRM.https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam
>>740662806ok tendie
>>740662221>I'm retarded Please do not share such things
>>740662876>Piracy being at its peak in the 2000's is why the industry wanted PC gaming dead and treated all PC gamers like stinky thievesThere was just Epic. Not "the industry". Epic said piracy was just too out of control on PC and went off to become a console exclusive dev for a short period of time. Nobody else abandoned the platform. During this supposed period of mass abandonment of PC gaming is also the same period where PC gaming saw some of its best exclusives released too.
>>740662507>ownershipHere we go again. You don't own shit. Wanna prove me wrong? Try upgrading your cuckbox or installing a randomizer mod. Can you really claim you own your car if there's some asshole who renders it inoperable if you paint it a different color?
>>740662221>PC gamers literally said let’s destroy our unique identity to become consoles with more stepsThis never happened. Steam does not represent PC gaming.
>>740663018steam.exe by itself is a closed source DRM program running on your PC you dumb faggot, you have to install it to get your games
>>740662221Casualfags and consolefags started buying PC and is now the biggest audience in the PC market. it's why most of them can't use mouse and keyboard and need a gamepad aimbot for FPS games.
>>740662985ragebaiting is backThe more things change, the more they stay the same
>>740662806Here's several thousand exampleshttps://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
>>740662604when half life 2 was released i wasn't even born
>>740662806Steam has offline mode.Most games can actually be launched with the executable (and a shortcut you make for it) in the folder, the shortcuts on your desktop created during installation are steam links.
>>740663002Yeah, I saw it a lot online, especially from games journalists, but never talked to a person who seriously believed it. That's why I think it was a shill campaign.
>>740662221another day, another 150 anti-gabe threads on /v/, the final boss of gaming in the west
>>740662801Now that is a rare pepe
Another day, another Tim Sweeney seethe thread.
>>740663083No, a bunch of other studios also avoided PC gaming or only treated it with shitty low effort ports. A bunch of games like the first Darkness game, first Saint's Row and a number of other titles ignored PC platforms, probably because of heccin piracy. Hell, Halo Wars only came to PC like 7 years after original launch despite being a fucking RTS.
>>740663131That was not the claim, dumb nigger. The games have no DRM and can be copied to be run elsewhere. Steam is still better than corpo cubes of many walled gardens btw. Not even in the same league as consolefaggotry.
>>740663279can't install in offline mode because it can't check if you have digital rights to the game or notgames from GOG can be installed in offline modesteam is DRM
>>740663131>Install steam>Download game>Uninstall steam>Play game>Inb4 I don't want to install steamThen why'd you buy a game on steam
>>740662221>a launcher for every single game studio is a good thing actually
>>740663367A lot of that shit was just plain console manufacturers paying for exclusivity.
>>740663340I almost feel like online shills didn't even exist before 2014 (gamergate) and gaming journos were trustworthy, but maybe I'm being completely naive and they were always terrible.
>>740663340Gabe Newell saved PC gaming. He deserves his yacht and every dollar of profit, because he did the work.
>>740663563i member booth babes, gaming magazines full of semi-naked women, olivia munn throating a hotdog, whip cream wrestling, at least women still dress slutty at conventions, they just have to cross a picket line of religious grannies
>>740663371It can't install in offline mode because steam has the internet turned off you retard. It's no different on GOG if you don't have an offline installer saved and you disconnect your PC.You're a retard.
>>740663563journos were always leeches with publisher gibs. They just used to actually want to see good games released themselves, not to see them DEIcomplient and made by the right minority
>>740663467>The OTHER warlords would have been even more cruel!Valvegans can't comprehend the idea of not being enslaved.
>>740662221Seehttps://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/2fj7eTZ64i
>>740663083>There was just Epicman, cucks are so funny
>>740662221I have over 1600 games on steam and the most amount of gaming I have done in the past two weeks has been in Vintage Story.I haven't touched a steam game in over two weeks. And yet I can still play games on steam, hmm... almost like as if Steam is not a monopoly at all...I wont however, ever ever buy a console ever again, only niggers and brown people use consoles.
>>740663790>if you don't have an offline installer savedDifference is there is such a thing as an offline installer for GOG. There is not for Steam. Steam pretends to have an offline installer creator but it's pointless because it cannot be used without being online so may as well just download anyway.
>>740663341why do you feel the need to whiteknight a fat billionaire?
>>740663858That was an exclusivity deal to promote the 360, not because of hatred for PC gamers and their piracy ways. Alan Wake was released on PC like a year later but it was over 10 years before it was seen on a non-Microsoft platform.
Steam would actually be useful if the fat fuck Gabe actually had a spine and banned every other 3rd party launcher if the game is already on Steam.
>>740663189>>740663368>>740663410Steam functions as Digital Rights Management (DRM) because it requires you to run the Steam client and log into your account to authenticate, download, and play your games. This means you do not truly own the game files; instead, you pay for a revocable license.And no, linking your list of indie trash DRM free games does not refute this.
>>740664108Valve actively encourages the use of third party software to prevent piracy. Valve themselves do not support piracy and the notion the only reason Gabe hasn't banned it all is because he lacks the guts to do so is nonsense.
>>7406643083rd party launchers have nothing to do with piracy you fucking retarded faggot, its just another layer of DRM
>>740664243so just like consoles
>>740664243and gog
>>740662221>identityGay. If anything, the Xbox ruined console gaming for bringing the FPS fags from PC.
>>740664369>3rd party launchers have nothing to do with DRM, its just another layer of DRMI'm sorry, who are you accusing of being a fucking retard here?
>>740664467>>740664518you steamcucks are fucking patheticplease explain to me how is Nintendo gonna take away my Super Mario 64 cart or how is GOG gonna take away my .exe file from my PC?
>>740662221You lost, Tendie.
>>740664607The same way steam can take away your backed up goldberged game?Why are you so quick to shift from theoretical ownership to practical ownership?In theory you don't own shit no matter how much you think you do
>>740663968Nigga the offline installer is practically the same as downloading the game normally and putting it in a zip file. Also>Can't use steams offline installer maker without internet so it doesn't countHow does one install GOGs offline installer without internet
>>740664802>How does one install GOGs offline installer without internetyou double click the .exe file
>>740663184we used to just call it trolling, whatever happened there?
>>740664243>truly own the game filesYou never did. Ever.The physical disks were just a distribution system to get the game code into your PC. That code is not yours in any legal sense. You are buying a right to install and play it within their huge list of stipulations you agree to when you check the [Yes] box after you pretend to read the license agreement. Actually sit and read an End User License Agreement, you'll be shocked what's in there.Most games come with a 90 day limited warranty. After that 90 days, you're on your own. If the disc breaks you have literally nothing but polycarbon refuse and can never install the game again until you buy a new copy.
>>740664761>>740664847what is this mental illness called?
>>740662221I should find a photo of what a big box store's PC section looked like in 2010 and you kids would understand. There was one shelf with three AAA games and a wire rack of deer hunting simulators. Nobody interesting could make money because they couldn't generate the kind of inventory turnover Walmart needs to put you on a shelf. Then Steam and Amazon have an infinite shelf where the current AAA juggernaut and some indie game with 10K fans get treated the same with the same delivery infrastructure. It relieved a terrible creative bottleneck.
and consoles went>lets ruin our benefits and become more like pcs wthout pc benefits
>>740662221How's everyone liking the new personalized calendar, by the way?
>>740664843it generate clicks AND engagement
>>740665008when you tell me how is GOG gonna take away my .exe files im gonna reply to you
>>740664891Not addressing anything and just throwing insults?It's called izzat preservation, for when you only care about having the last word in like the estrogenated brown bitch you really are
>>740663790>Offline installerYou mean archiving the fucking game? Fucking tech illiterates....
>>740665174you can't archive a game without cracking it (if you want it to be truly DRM free)
>Fuck Steam! At least I own my games on Nintend-ACCCCCCKKKKK!!!!
>>740665098You've already been told how, it's the same way steam is going to do itWhich is to say, they won't Or are you stumped by the idea of just zipping your games up?
>>740662535piracy is at its peak right now if you aren't retarded.
>>740664829I meant download it but you win this time
>>740665397HOW IS GOG GONNA TAKE AWAY MY .EXE FILE THATS IS LOCATED ON MY HDD?HOW RETARD? EXPLAIN THE PROCESS
the trojan horse that killed physical on pc
>>740664974In a way, the size of the fucking PC game boxes created a stupid problem for storing them in a physical store. Even in a place like Babbages that was half PC games you could only squeeze so many of those two-inch wide, fourteen-inch tall fucking shirt-boxes on a shelf.I think that box size was a holdover from the era when you needed 12 floppies to install a goddamned Apogee game and they never corrected it.
>>740665480I answered it, can't you fucking read you legally retarded faggot?You're such a massive fucking nigger that you're arguing about steam with theoryYou lost that since there's no difference between it and gog so you shifted to practical applications where there's also no difference
>>740662221>muh identityI just want to buy and download games conveniently. Steam gives me that.
>>740665480Police will raid your home and confiscate all digital storage devices. If you found to not be illegally holding onto intellectual property they will be returned to you. If you are found to be illegally holding intellectual property they will be held as evidence and you will be charged. Also any other things they discover during their search, e.g. your cp collection, will result in additional charges. Anything not illegal but just embarrassing for you will be revealed to your family, friends and employer.
>>740662221Brother PC gamers literally rejected console war style exclusivity when they gave EGS the middle finger for trying to manufacture it.
>>740665646>im not gonna explain anything and you lost btwwait are you the Eric guy from the tendie melty threads?
>>740665626By 2010 almost all PC games came in your standard DVD case. They were well aware that the size of PC boxes was ridiculous and in the late 90s and early 2000s they had mostly reduced them to like 1/3 the size they were previously.
>>740662848Sweeney clearly believed it, considering his actions.
>>740665626Also, forgot to mention the reason they were so big is carry over from when they used to need to hold a 5 1/4 inch floppy. They mostly shrunk a bit when they moved to 3 1/2 inch and then again when CD and jewel case became a thing and then again when DVD became a thing (the box was usually nothing more than a cardboard shell for a regular DVD case) and then finally boxes were mostly tossed.
>>740665857but i did explain it you fucking moronread the first two lines>>740665397the theory of ownership no matter the platform is that they can take shit away from youthe practical aspect of ownership is that no one can do shit when you have direct access to the fileswhat you've done here is that you compared the theoretical aspect of steam to the practical aspect of gog and you think you won because the practical terms are better than theoretical termsi'll say it again just because you're a senile moronin theory you don't truly own a single fucking game since they've always been revocable licencesin practice as long as you have direct access to the files it literally doesn't fucking matter
>>740665626It wasn't just the discs. A lot of PC games used to come with a ton of shit. Take an entry in the Ultima franchise - you got the game discs, sure, but you'd get a company catalog, at least two lore books(one grimoire, one worldguide,) a folded cloth map, and some kind of odd trinket depending on which game.Some assholes packed in copyprotection shit like code wheels. And SimEarth took it too goddamn far with a 200+ page earth science book.
>>740665889But by 2010, PC gaming was nearly dead. By the time it was resurrected, every console was using Blu-ray, and that would require Blu-ray drives on PC to maintain parity (and the PC world was abandoning slow optical storage).Even if you wanted to do physical games on Blu-ray, it would be painfully slow, and the version you had on disc might be well out of date after a while, forcing you to download content updates separately. If we're imagining a world where nobody's using Steam for that, that means waiting in queues at fileplanet or other shitty sites.This isn't counting getting your key banned because someone genned the key you have and you were on at the same time, or hitting your limit for activated devices and having to beg a jeet via email or a support ticket system to clear the activations.Steam solved all the bullshit. You download the newest version at ridiculous speeds, it's decompressed inline, and it's ready to play on download. Activation limits these days are within a 24 hour period, and really only piss off lincucks users. Shit just works.
If you care about indefinite "ownership", there's nothing stopping you from pirating a game, that option was never taken from you.Steam is objectively the best platform for playing games and offers a better experience than what any physical media channel offers.
>>740666252I read the SimAnt book cover to cover multiple times. It was neat.
>>740666220dishonest steamcuck copei 100% own all my physical games and all my .exe files on my PCliterally no one can take it away from me unless you break into my houseyour whole Steam library can be taken away from you just by disabling your accounthope you have at least 80IQ to understand this
>>740666489You have hoops to go through, always behind on patches, and can't play multiplayer. You have a worse experience.
>>740662315FPBP
>>740666489I can download my steam games and back them up so they can't be taken. That means I own them. On top of that, Steam will be here longer than me (and especially you, since you have to dodge people weilding machetes in your favela), and I don't worry about losing my games because I'm not a retard who obsesses about shit like this. If Valve took all my games today, I'd just buy more games.
>>740666629*wielding
>>740666629>If Valve took all my games today, I'd just buy more games.and there we have it, exposed as a brainded goy. pathetic
>>740666489au contraire, you had to have 80iq to understand what i said and you clearly fucking don'tno one can take your zipped up steam backups awayyou're just such a fucking moron that you can't conceive that you have to do the archiving yourselfif physical games still existed they would have atrocious drm, everything would have starforce, securom, denuvo on crack but you're too stupid to understand that
>>740666719Are you not a goy? I'm a proud goy.
>>740666719You haven't given a counter-argument.
>>740666736>zipped up steam backupsuseless without a steam account
>>740666865it's called a goldberg, look it up faggotit's no different to no cd cracks for your precious plastic
>>740666293>But by 2010, PC gaming was nearly dead.I don't know why people keep claiming this shit as if there isn't data clearly showing PC gaming had only been growing in sales since like 1995 and there was never any decline whatsoever. There is an argument to be made that it didn't grow nearly as much as consoles did in the late 90s and early 2000s but the idea PC gaming was in any sort of decline is pure nonsense.
>>740662315fpbpOP status: SHATTERED
>>740665363>Must Steam games are launchable without the client. >Noooo you can't without cracking it. The absolute state of tech illiteracy....
>>740666913Major companies literally stopped publishing PC games, Epic being one of the biggest.
>>740662221Its more so there was an influx of newfag poors and console kids that flooded the platform.
>>740662221I was pissed about it when in the late 2000's physical PC games started requiring Steam DRM to play. I stopped buying new games at all for a while. However Steam started having such wild sales that I ended up buying a shitton of games on Steam and now am stuck using it forever.
>>740666905so your cope is that your gonna crack the games you already paid for? ok
>>740662315fpbp OP is retarded af
>he keeps samefagging
>>740667056Enjoy trying to get old versions of SecuROM working on a modern system. You'll have to crack those games, too.>>740667137>it's samefagging if multiple people think I'm a schizoCheck.
>>740666960That's just not true.Some companies have always favored consoles over PC, e.g. Rockstar, and Epic did famously abandon the platform citing piracy as the reason but the idea everyone suddenly decided they weren't going to support PC anymore is crap. That just did not happen.And again, we do have actual data that shows there was only growth in the PC gaming industry during this supposed period of the death of PC gaming so the claim is just pure crap.
reminder>gaben tells some jews to fuck off>suddenly tons of articles, threads and general shilling against valvei am nooticing
>>740667056so your cope is that you're worried about the same thing you have to do to your precious plastic discs to not go insane using them? okhere you are slipping back into fucking theory, retardif gog and steam revoke your game license you shouldn't have hangups over a 30 second operation where you replace a single sub 1mb file
>>740667270but Gabe is the biggest jew in the industry tho
>>740667270>>gaben tells some jews to fuck offWhen has Gabe ever done that? Was it when he was pushing for paid mods? Was it when he capitulated to the payment processors? When was this time when that fat fuck ever stood up to "da jews"?
>>740667386you weren't even born during the paid mods controversy and nothing ever came out of it since they backtracked on itmeanwhile paid mods is the norm on all consoles now
>>740667386When did you? Was it when you sucked the cock of SecuROM, Starforce, Safedisc, and CDilla? Was it when you defended polack jews who run GOG?
The recent Steam hate is so forced. I get not liking it for DRM reasons but Steam itself is popular because it's good. Epic is dogshit and every game I got for free on there rots because the UI is shit.
>>740667379>>740667386https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/wawdce/2:2023cv01016/323951/230/feel free to spin it however you want
If your steam account wasn't created in 2003 your opinion on buying PC games is completely irrelevant.
>>740667559>Signed by Judge Jamal N Whitehead.heh
>>740662315BASED
>>740662221Because all consolefags surrendered their games to us, making it the ultimate platform. There's also GoG.
>>740667606
>>740667640Why would I ever buy from GOG when pirates get the same experience for free?
>>740667502Paid mods was awful, but they should have allowed a way to donate via Steam to modders. I wouldn't have done it, but I'm sure some paypiggy would have.
I gave epic a chance btw. Installed it, tried to play some games on there, with Remnant being free being the catalyst.All I got was a half baked store, awful download times (maybe 4x slower than downloading updates on steam) and a store I just didn't want open or available.Maybe i'm an outlier in giving it a chance but I did and there was zero reason to actually move or do so. Everything was shittier and it never got better.So yeah maybe it's worrying that Steam is so big but really all it would take is a good platform and people would leave it and go elsewhere.
>>740667559>$5,000 in sanctions against a patent trollYeah, he really kicked their asses.
>>740662221>consoletards think the box you play on has an "identity"
>>740667386>Pushed paid modsThat was clearly an experiment on Valve's part, Bethesda was the one who was pushing for it. After the pushback Valve pulled out and never tried implementing it again, while Bethesda went and implemented it themselves with the creation club (something they've implemented in every game they've made since). If Valve truly wanted paid mods, there would still be paid mods on steam.>Payment processorsAh yes the Valve is Jewish controlled because the digital online store didn't commit suicide by defying the duopoly that is capable of crippling nations by denying access.But Valve doesn't sell user information nor it doesn't require an ID to use the service even in places like the UK, which is antisemitic and a big schlomo-no-no.
The pc is the penultimate console. It can emulate anything. It's any console but the switch 2
>>740662221Whatever you say, Timmy
>>740667595Feels good to be one of the OGs.
>it was just one single retard replying to everyone and now the thread is dead
>>740669264Now it's 2 retards (me being that 2nd retard you're welcome)
In the early 00s Bill Gates decided he wanted to expand Microsoft's PC monopoly in to home console domination. The original Xbox was supposed to be a multimedia device that would sit in every living room, like the Super Nintendo or the Playstation, and those Japanese consoles would be DROPPED. Microsoft also sunk a lot of money in to pushing anti-Japanese racism in the journoshill, developer studios & publishing industry to help that process along. Of course Ol' Billy retired but none of his M$ successors really understood what his goal with the Xbox was: to choke Japanese consoles to death the same way he choked Japanese Personal Computing to death. Billy's successors were corporate rat retards. Anyway, Xbox ended up a joke, but that was the initial agenda.
>>740669264He created a new steam deck thread if you're interested>>740669065
All I am hearing ITT is bitching about a walled garden user can chose to use or not, and its coming from loons who are hardware-locked into theirs by default. By companies who will go to the length of suing people jury rigging a way to leave that garden. Sounds like some best korea-level of capitalism.
>>740667595I refused to use it at first. I ended up creating an account in 2006 (I think to link SiN Episodes and Dark Messiah) and bought my first game directly in 2007.
>>740667595My dad bought "the orange box" but doesn't have a steam account today. Tell me how that worked out.
>>740662315FPBP OP is a knuckle-dragging pavement ape
>>740662221steamfags are just cultists, if you don't own a game on steam they treat you like a pirate even if you have a physical copy
pc or console you never owned anything. they're all just licenses to use software for personal use. life is a series of prisons. freewill is an illusion. you're stuck in samsara with the rest of us
So when is valve going to start removing people's games from their libraries like all these doomers say they will?
>>740666489>Steam library can be taken away from you just by disabling your accountAnd when has Valve ever done that in their 20+ years of operation, barring fraudulent activity?
>>740677376>>740677867when gabe dies and some jew buys steam
>>740677376Today, since all your games are taken every Tuesday.
>>740678604fuuuuuuck
>>740663969Because it makes kikes seethe endlessly.
>>740662221>a prebuilt mini-pc with linux pre-installed is somehow consolesdamn, I wish I could be this retarded and manage to live well enough to be posting on basket weaving forums.
>>740667270>>740667559Just a reminder that the patent troll who attempted to sue Gaben and pals is not a member of the banking family that you might be thinking of. Leigh's last name is purely coincidental. However, he is a well known litigous piece of shit.
>>740663083yeah, Crysis and Stalker were released right in the middle of the "great piracy age" of PC, and both games were never really surpassed in terms of graphical leap and atmosphere to this day.
>let’s destroy our unique identity to become consoles with more stepsThat was Microsoft and then they lost
>>740664308Piracy does not matter, otherwise no game that releases on GOG would be successful.You just need bare minimum competence when it comes to developing on an appropriate budget and actually selling your game.>>740664580Adding another layer of easily circumvented DRM isn't going to make it harder to pirate. All that is needed to avert piracy of anyone who actually matters (the target audience) is a bare minimum speedbump. DRM is the ultimate placebo when it comes to piracy, because pirates don't magically become paying customers.>But what about Denuvo?The only reason developers use Denuvo is to slow down discussion of shit games, so that they get a few more sales in the first weeks before enough people have played the game and start complaining louder than the shills.>>740665484The Trojan horse that killed physical on PC was fucking CONTU and their bullshit when they introduced software copyright. Companies instantly started trying to sell you just a license to their software, rather than the software itself.>There is a viable alternative to the problems raised by Bill Gates in his irate letter to computer hobbyists concerning "ripping off" software. When software is free, or so inexpensive that it's easier to pay for it than to duplicate it, then it won't be "stolen". Styling on retards complaining about piracy is older than piracy.>>740666913People like to say it, because console ports in the late 2000s and early 2010s were fuck-awful and companies kept whining about not selling as much on PC to shirk responsibility.Everything was degenerating into broken functionality, endless accounts, endless launchers and shit DRM until the industry finally stopped being quite so retarded.
>>740680120>third world gamesYou poorfags need to find something else to cling to. Zoomers found Harry Potter and Pokemon.
>>740662221Nobody said that
>>740662221Hey Timmy, how many people are you gonna lay off this year?
>>740681918Is Timmy Tencent the ultimate lolcow?
>>740665439This
>>740662985>>740662539It's a relic from a more civilized age
>>740681918He's partially right. Depends on the game. When EA, for example, made The Sims exclusive to their much hated platform that didn't really hurt their sales much. Fortnite is not available for Steam. They still make fuckloads of cash. If your game is "good enough" everyone but the must deranged of deranged Valve cocksuckers will take Gabe's cock out of their mouth for a second to play it.
>>740662221It's bad luck due to the vram shortage. Valve earned consumer trust with the steam deck, that's the only reason why they went ahead with this hardware. Neither side was coercing the other to make or buy the product.
>>740667231Look, funny youtube man says underage gambling yacht man saved video game from da juice okay? Stop questioning the narrative.
>>740668384>Modders only got 25% cut.Imagine trying to rationalize this shit in any way. Valve was experimenting alright. They were experimenting how much more ass rape steam drones would tolerate.
>>740686192>Valve earned consumer trust with the steam decklol nobody cares about steam decknobody on steam uses iteven amongst linux users only a tiny fraction are running steam deckroflalso valve's vr crap is the 4th most popular vr headset amongst steam userslmfaoalso valve's crappy controller is one of the least used controllers even amongst steam usersnobody cares about valve as a hardware companythere is no trust in valve on this front
>>740687340reddit spacing lmao
>>740687312Even EA is more generous than that with their paid mods program. Valve really are such fucking scumbags.
>>740662315>>740666610>>740666943>>740667091>>740667627>>740673165>>740687561>samefag phoneposting for 3 hours in this shitty threadHow pathetic.
>>740687312do you think it's normal to hold onto grudges because of things that never came into effect for more than 10 years?
>>740688445do you think it's normal to have battered wife syndrome?
>Microsoft makes Xbox>Starts skimming PC exclusives and dumbs them down for Xbox>Starts doing the same even harder with the Xbox 360>Pushes Windows Vista wich barely works and makes games unplayable>Pushes GFWL which barely works and makes games unplayable>Both make consumers pirate games just to see if their work on their barely functioning rig>Leaves the PC space altogether>Pays journalists to say PC gaming is "dead">Pays journalists and publishers to state piracy is killing PC gaming>Destroys countless small PC exclusives, devs and publishers >Gabe brings all of that back plus all console games>Even Japanese games have mod support nowKeep crying bitch nigger
>>740688148>OP's is still this rectal ravaged after three hoursJust close the tab and pretend like it never happened like everyone else.
>>7406622212 shekels deposited into your account from the goldstein foundation
>>740688902>you're suffering but you don't know it because you're used to it!!!!>his best example is something that has not impacted anyone
>>740688902>valve >tries paid mods cuz company want monies>everyone hated that>Gayben stops>fucking everyone else>tries paid mods cuz company wants monies>everyone hated that>do it anyway, making everyone's life worseCompanies wanting to get more money ain't an issue, it's very expected. The issue is whether or not they listen to the customers when shitty attempts at getting money get introduced.
>>740689496>threaten to beat my wife>she lives in perpetual fear>its not abuse though because I only threaten to beat her, never actually did yet
>>740689951Stop absolutely RAPING EGShills anon
>>740662221>early 2010s
>>740690228>do a bad thing>repent by massively improving the platform down the line to the point where you have to be mentally ill and obsessed to hold it against them
>>740690601>>repent by massively improving the platform down the lineSteam Workshop is still complete trash nobody uses.
>>740664607GoG can't take away your exe, but steam can? You retarded or something? I don't even have steam installed on one of the systems I copied my game to, it is literally impossible for valve to do anything.Also, Nintendo doesn't have to take away your cart, they can just stop selling the hardware DRM required to transform the piece of plastic that is the cart into a playable game and eventually you simply can't get access to the cart no matter how much you want to. Might take a long time, but there will be a day where emulation (copyright infringement) is the only way to get access.
>>740690758There are more GMOD Steam Workshop users than there are Xbox players
>>740662315fpbp
>>740690601>repent by massively improving the platformThis is the best comeback you could think of? If I was you I would have left the thread after fucking up this bad.
>>740690962>GMODlol
i knew the movement to digital only was inevitable but i still miss grabbing a game from the store
>>740690758???steam workshop is the most convenient way to get custom content>>740690996>you described me and i'm mad about itface it retard, you're so mentally ill that you're crying about nothingburgers from a decade ago because you simply can't give anyone a reason to not use steam as it is now
>>740690996...yeah, that's a good way to rebuild trust? Steam back then really sucked, like, Microsoft Store bad. Now it's objectively better, and every other store is still Microsoft Store levels (except GoG, their personal work to get abandonware running is pretty nice).
>>740691746You are still doing it. You lost the moment you said shit like "repent" as if everyone posting here is a 13 year old kid that thinks corporations are slice of life anime villains that will change their evil ways when they rape you in the ass without lube testing waters how much anal rape you can endure
>>740691191What shitty games do you play on your cucksole brick?
Sure timmy I'll trade having a bajillion fucking games available for a fucking "identity"
>>740662315
>piracy offers the best service>/v/ steam shills hate itmakes you think
>>740692667I can also say "God" without burning alive, you devil. Now go announce your thread departure. I know you wanna.
>>740692667>obsesses over a single word because he has no valid argument against steam that doesn't hinge on meaningless catty grudges
>>740693126>Devil worshipping steam drone calls people who don't engage in their cult, "Devil"I'm not sorry but actions speak louder.Your hero is buying yachts instead of making hl3 and he is currently running an online underage gambling empire that barely evades gambling laws. Shame paid modding failed, that's at least another potential yacht he will never see.
i used to be a steam hater when i didn't have a jobnow i can just buy games from japanese devs i want to support
>>740662221Actual fucking moron.
Will the GabeCube be able to handle 4k televisions? I don't mind if it uses DLSS or whatever frame generation genie magic I just want to fucking game in my living room I don't want to build a pc ever again especially not a micro atx one
>>740662315this, i don't even know what op is trying to make a point about
>>740692951I buy from Steam, GOG, Zoom, key resellers and I Pirate
>>740693126Shut the fuck up Groyper you have closeted gays to glaze with your throat
>>740693589>>740694339cope
>>740662315consolefags thinking steam is the only way you can game on pc will never stop being amusing
>>740691928>>740692826>>740694912It doesn’t have popular games, just old dead remakes and studios milking customers like COD. Microsoft has Minecraft, Google has Android games, Playstation has their ip, GOG has Cyberpunk, itchio has game jams, Nintendo has Mario games.Steam has nothing but old games.
>>740662315Fpbp
>>740662221>>PC gamers literally said let’s destroy our unique identity to become consoles with more stepsthat's a weird way of saying consoles are literally worthless now lol. this isn't the ps2 days; 99% of all games release day and date on pc now
>>740662315fpbp, sorry you're retarded op
>>740694339Holy kike lmao
>>740695301>Steam has nothing but old games
>>740662507blah blah blah, all you people say the same shit but there's really no alternative>itch.ionothing goes on there>GoGthe only real competitor but all they have going for them is packing patches with older games, they are getting less and less DRM free games>Epicliteral advertising blackhole that sucks all discussion into it preventing any positive feedbacksteam has been and still is, the best choice
>>740667270maybe if steam actually had a real competitor i would be upset, but most of this is just shitposting with 0 actual discussionanything bad that can be said about steam can be said about any other store/app, they're literally the least of all evils
>>740696089Steam has committed crimes against gamers, stop pretending that didn’t exist.
>>740696538the other companies have committed more
>>740696538what are those crimes?if it's muh paid mods again you lost out of the gate, no one has actually suffered from it
>>740688148OP you got BTFO, acting like this just makes you even more of a faggot lmao
>>740695301Steam has everything it needs to live rent free in your head
Why is OP so buckbroken by Steam that there never isn't a thread bitching about it here?
>>740697675Video game discussion is allowed fag
>>740662221>PC gamers literally said let’s destroy our unique identity to become consoles with more stepThey didn'tIt was former consolefags who were tired of sub-30fps in 7th gen console who jumped ship to PC/Steam because of Steam Sales and shit
>>740697675Maybe it's the autist still crying about Artifact. I miss his copypasta. No steam thread is complete without someone posting it especially when it doesn't apply.
>>740662221Why would i complain about one of the best costumer experiences in the world.
>>740697675Steam makes every fanboy group seethe because it gets basically every game without trying. Snoys, Tendies and Xbots have to live with the fact they'll get like 2 or 3 exclusives a year while SteamGODS are getting nearly all their games while having hundreds of great exclusives that will never come to console.
>>740664847>Most games come with a 90 day limited warranty. After that 90 days, you're on your own. If the disc breaks you have literally nothing but polycarbon refuse and can never install the game again until you buy a new copy.There's far less likelyhood of that happening than your hard drive crashingDiscs last 50+ years if stored properlyMeanwhile with digital the publisher can revoke your license whenever they feel like itIf Steam goes down, there goes your Steam library
>>740662539Пeкa нa вeкa
>>740664761>The same way steam can take away your backed up goldberged game?WrongNo Nintendo ninja is gonna show up to your doorstep to confiscate your Super Mario 64 cartGo fuck yourself, digitalshill
>>740697675No clue, probably an Epic fanboy wondering why his favorite Fortnite developer isn't making any headway on being a viable competitor with Steam.Turns out that burning Fortnitebux on buying exclusives for a year changed nothing. (See: Hades 1 being an Epic exclusive for a year, no one hearing about it or giving a shit, immediately becomes one of the best selling games as soon as it gets on Steam a year later)
>>740665390Ain't nobody defending that shit or modern consolesUntil they come up with an optical media that can carry multiple terabytes modern consoles are fucking worthless with their ''partial install/download the rest'' bullshit
>>740665713None of that shit will happen you retarded tranny
>>740699239>No Nintendo ninja is gonna show up to your doorstep to confiscahttps://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/uk-games-collector-raided-by-police-after-purchasing-gbp10-000-worth-of-hardware-including-old-dev-kits-disposed-of-by-sega/te your Super Mario 64 cart
>>740666293>and the PC world was abandoning slow optical storage)Mark my fucking wordsOptical Media will be backGames are becoming more and more bloated in sizeStoring them on HDD no longer makes senseWe will have optical media that carries multiple terabytes and digital services like Steam will decline if not die
>>740700427>Mark my fucking words>Optical Media will be back>Games are becoming more and more bloated in size>Storing them on HDD no longer makes sense>We will have optical media that carries multiple terabytes and digital services like Steam will decline if not die
>>740677867Valve bans you for saying nigger in game chatXbox 360 never did
>>740700427retardhard drivers are cheaper and faster than even blurays
>>740662221paid mods and letting it turn into nes shovelware shit ruined it more than anything
>>740667379>but Gabe is the biggest jew in the industry thoTrueIt's why he allows Denuvo garbage on his platform
PCFaggots love playing games with shader compilation stutter all over the place
>>740662221cause they are retards>>740662315if steam shuts down one day all your games will be gone. I however have the files and or disc drives. YOU are the retard.(s)it took them several years before you could even play games without being connected 24/7 and if your network drops game closed
>>740699239no, but modern nintendo absolutely has the fucking capacity to render a specific cartridge unreadable if you connect it to the internet because you don't actually own your consolevalve can't take your backups away
>>740699030I have delisted games and play test demos (sometimes more fun than the actual release) that Valve never once touched. I can play those games even when offline. I can lift those games onto goldberg if I really want to own my shit. I really fail to see your major malfunction here.
>>740700671>Valve bans you for saying nigger in game chatI've called everyone a nigger in Day of Defeat Source for over 20 years and I've never gotten a single ban by Valve>Xbox3shitty kidThat explains this thread
>>740700991Go make me a sandwich
>>740700991these posts are funny cause UE5 games stutter on consoles as well but snoygros don't notice it
>>740700149>UKUK is a 1984 dystopian shithole where wrongthink lands you in jailEven then this is a specific case involving devkits and prototypes(which is why police didn't confiscate his controllers and cables) which Sega wanted to destroy for some reason because Japanese companies are autistic trannies who hate preservation for some reassonNobody is going to come to your home to confiscate your legally purchased Sega Saturn copy of NiGHTSGood on this guy for refusing to give up the devkits thoughI wish UK cops(who protect criminals and muzzies) and SEGA corporate executives painful deaths
I want to rant about something on Steam and this is as good of a place as any to do it.>checking out game I've never heard of>Scrolling down>THE VERY FIRST REVIEW IS NEGATIVEOoooohh, when I see this, I lose interest in the game immediately. If I were these game devs, I'd really want my first review to be a positive one. Makes me wonder if anybody else feels the way I do and if game devs are going to try to complain about it and force positive ones on top.
>>740702818>It doesn't countlmao
>>740662315fippy bippy
