Whatever hype i got from playing KH1 and KH2 in my teenage years completely died in KH3 cause i didnt feel a thing seeing a new KH4 trailer drop. Lmao.
>>740683972Man, was playing kh1 at night the first time felt so fucking comfy.
Why does it look so "serious"? Where's the Disney stuff? The colorful worlds and memorable characters?
>>740685174I think they said it's only for this world. And that sora design isnt even the final design. Not too sure. But it looks kinda ugly.
I dont understand why they went full anime with this franchise. The disney characters has always been the bigger highlights. These new set of characters look so out of place
>>740686005Don't like his black/darker hair at all, fucking Japan yet again. Can't even have brown hair there.And why the fuck isn't Xehanort not dead. Fucking kill him, stop wanking to him already Nomura.>>740686691It's not "full anime". It's Shibuya style, and it's one of Nomura's deepest fantasies along with his black hair ladies, billion belts, white hair and people with a fucking cloak.
>>740687103Is that rikku or did xehanort somehow return again?
>>740686691nomura needs to leave
>>740686005Weird how they keep using this sora for promotion if thats only meant for this one world.
>>740687262That's Xehanort. Nomura teased him last year and maybe even this year too, I forgot.
>>740686850>>740686691>>740687024Isn't this just a reuse of FFXIII versus assets?
>>740687262>>740687547This one must be this year's, maybe.
>>740687564Bad 3d scanning of shibuya.The whole trailer looks off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j151ek2rYs0&t=43s&pp=2AErkAIB
>>740683972Gaming isnt fun in your 30s, bro. The magic is completely gone.
>>740687547>>740687731Is there any leak on what worlds are going to be in the game?
>>740688070True, i played the KH1 and KH2 remasters and didnt had much fun either.
>>740688441Leaks? Brother, KH fans have been basically dripped fed one picture a year, for 5 years. This trailer is the biggest thing ever since Remind/the rhythm game.
>>740688441Closest thing to that is a tiny piece of a Star Wars machine identified in a forest in the first KH4 trailer
Dont understand nomuras obsession with shibuya
>>740689330Those monsters and sora's powers dont blend well with the realistic urban world.
>>740683972There's no point in trusting Kingdom Hearts trailer because half the trailers for Kingdom Hearts 3 were liesEven without considering that, they showed fucking nothing, it's kingdom hearts, where's the Disney and Final Fantasy characters? This is just a game about a bunch of Nomura characters hanging in Shibuya, it might as well be TWEWY 3 and you wouldn't know
>>740683972I dont understand why they didnt just end the series on 3. Its crazy how bare bones in content 3 was. Only the Toy Story world was good
>>740683972>>740686691>>740686850>>740687024>>740687103Who are these people?
I dont own the switch 2 but how the fuck is it able all these games like remake and rebirth. I'm considering buying the console if the game doesnt look like shit there
>>740690293The chick was from some mobile game.Out of all these, i only know luxord. He's an organisation 13 member and is only yozora's butler for some reason
>>740690321The games are literally missing assets, have insane input lag while running at 30fps and looking like UE TSR which is worse than DLSS or FSR.
>>740690595Also*
>>740683972The game looks fucking unpolished as shit lol
Kek it looks so bad
>check thread>all these disney slopper secondariesdaily reminder KH3 got buttfucked by Disney being so damn annoying with changes. like how they forced Nomura to make Frozen into just another retelling of the movie.so, the less disney, the better.
After KH3 bungled it's story so bad they decided to fix it with paid DLC I'm so done with this series
>those folks that skipped kingdom hearts unchained/unionI like that the Switch 2 is forcing these game to come out..as in forcing the optimization process so the games come out faster. No one is waiting to play a Switch 2 game in 2028.Knowing SE it's probably in the 2nd half of 2027 as Revelations is coming out soon
>>740691359Nomura couldve chose a different movie
>>740691771Japan unfortunately likes frozen
>>740691771>chose>implying they didn't force him to put frozen in
The deepest Nomura lore + (Disney + Final Fantasy Characters) - The game.
>>740685174Disney was the worst part of KH, exemplified by 3. I'm praying this game will be all Nomura OC donutsteel and barely any disney
>>740685174>>740686691It’s funny how everyone was saying the exact opposite when KH3 released lol
>>740686691Noctis2.0>>740686850Ardyn2.0>>740687024Butler2.0
>final fantasy>Kingdom Hearts>HD2D slopSquare used to be more than just these 3 games.
>>740691359Nomura and the SE guys shoved in Frozen to sell copies. They got what they deserved. Why was that even a world for KH3
I was like "haha they're really showing this game off HERE?" and then any spirit I had gradually deflated watching the gameplay which still didn't look fun
>>740683972Bruh, coming home from secondary school and playing kh2. I want to go back...
>>740689330Placeholder HUD, r-right?
>>740694115Damn, they even tried to modernise the HUD lmao
>>740692271as they should, its the only good disney shit since the 90s. ok tangled is pretty good too
>>740683972Too much responsibility these days.
>>740683972will she be in kh4? a friend of MoM?
>>740695906Who the fuck is even that?
>>740686691>The disney characters has always been the bigger highlights.Eh I've mostly tolerated Disney stuff I mainly play it for Nomura's wild ride.
WHERE THE FUCK IS MICKEY
>that artstyleWhat a fucking abomination. I really hope it's just for that world.
why isn't Nomura still isn't over FFv13/FF15?
They're going to sell this for several hundred bucks for sure.
>>740689330OOOOOOOHHHHHTAKE A LOOK AT MEEEEEEEI KNOW I'M NOT THE PERFECTBOY YOU WANT ME TO BEEEEEEEEEE
>>740696438accord from drakengard, a TIME TRAVELING android
>>740697767are you drunk nigga?
>>740685174>>740686691Disney is too much of a pain in the ass to work with.
anyone felt underwhelming for a 4 years wait and reveal???
>Players who skipped the gachas have to learn all of these characters at the same time>The existing KH OCs keyblade warriors of light need to have some screentime>final fantasy cameos were promised for 4 since they skipped 3>and disney worlds
>>740685174People hated on 3 a lot for having too much Disney so they're probably pulling back on it a bit
>>740689330>It's Shibuya BUT NOT TWEWY ShibuyaIf 3D is only the TWEWY content we get in KH then Nomura is getting the rope.
>>740683972Because you are fucking 40, not an innocent and happy 13 years old kid anymore
>>740698939Nah, i'm 29
>>740691359It's pretty fucking obvious Nomura wants to make his own thing at this point, disney is a fucking burden more than anything, let the guy so his fucking Versus already , kids these days don't even give a shit about Disney
>>740683972>new KH4 trailer
>>740698857This is what happens when they don't let nomura make a new ip. Funny considering FF became a new ip instead of another dq
>>740698782>anyoneEveryone
>>740689330That art direction looks disgusting, man, even Reynatis had a better and more cohesive look.
>>740687564my man has been struggling with the same fucking premise for TWENTY FOUR years its time to strap your 500 belts and move on Nomura
>>740698893Actual TWEWY party members would be kino
>>740690293Marluxia's sister from Union Cross, previously dead.Coof survivor man might be a character from Dark Road that got killed off.Guy in purple might be Sigurd also from Dark Road, probably dead.Luxord who diedYoung Xehanrot and asian Sora both dead.
>>740689330
>>740686691Some are guessing that this guy is Vali, one of the killed upperclassmen from Dark Road. Which gives me a thin hope we'll get to see Baldr.
Nomura doesn't give a fuck about anything anymore. He just wants to make Versus 13 and then burn the whole world or something.
>Go to Keyblade wielder heaven>End up in JapanWhat did Nomura-san mean by this?
At this point I don't know what a Yozora game would even be about if the majority of KH4's story takes place in Shibuya while the Disney worlds are just filler. It would be boring if Verum Rex's entire game took place only in just Tokyo.
>>740683972I'm on the same boat. The mobile games should never have existed and everything they introduced should have been in KH3 instead. It would also fix KH3 where nothing happened for 90% of the game. Now KH4 is just a bucnh of random characters and mysteries i don't really care about
>>740686691full anime ? more like full sterile modernism
So is tokyo going to be the main hub world with content between every disney movie world? Are the only disney movie worlds going to be marvel and star wars? Outside of hercules's underworld being used as a plot point?
>>740698893Twewy is done and square killed it, just let it rest in peace
>>740683972cause they took so long to make the games (and delivered poorly on 3) that we've gone from same age as sora to same age as xehanorts crusty robe version from the cave in 1there is NO WAY it took them this long to make same area and some combat tech demo with unreal engine 5, no way
>>740687024>Luxord is Regiskek
>>740686691>I dont understand why they went full anime with this franchise. The disney characters has always been the bigger highlights.unironically >>740698727kingdom hearts stopped giving disney plot importance because the worlds switched from comfy adventures with movie references to 1:1 movie reenactments while sora is in the backgroundkh3 was the most blatant example of this between tangled and frozen. There were interviews and leaks about how the newer people at disney got upset at the very idea of their movies being changed. we were supposed to get a dark elsa fight but instead you have to climb the damn mountain three times
>>740700303It's Nomura's game though. KH is a free excuse to have TWEWY content without needing to beg Square to shadow drop another game fifteen years later.
>>740700537they did tangled very well, my friend hadn't seen the movie so we watched it before finishing the worldas for frozen you could tell they hate the movie and want nothing to do with it so the plot is offscreen while sora dicks around lol, a good job too because same friend was ready to drop the game if we had to actually do anything frozen related
I'm not feeling it bros
>>740700767NTA but Tangled was just Sora standing around watching the movie and Frozen explicitly had lots of cut content that was re-purposed. That's why Larxene raises an ice palace herself for no reason that you simply leave without any relevance.
>>740700537>There were interviews and leaks about how the newer people at disney got upset at the very idea of their movies being changed.Specifically Jennifer Lee, who directed Frozen and because the head of Disney animation. Her and her team are super protective of the movie that got them on top.>we were supposed to get a dark elsa fightThis is bullshit from a game theory video.
>Baldrgimme his sister
Why don't they include a good world like atlantis?Do we need to keep getting baby story and monsters boohoo trash?
>>740698857Lucrezia a cute
>>740698893Shiki got censored in HD release. If we can get give me all your love I'd forgive them
>>740701005>super protectivethen why did they shit all over it with a shitty sequel HUH??
>>740683972>I wasn't hype for a game for 13 year olds now that I'm in my 40sWell duh. Just be glad you've finally grown up. Unfortunately there are some hyperautistic losers who will never let go because their autistic brains stopped at 13 and never got any further.
>>740700945>NTA but Tangled was just Sora standing around watching the movieyes like I said very well done, faithful to movie and wasn't bad world or movie.>and Frozen explicitly had lots of cut content that was re-purposed. That's why Larxene raises an ice palace herself for no reason that you simply leave without any relevance.yes and again like I just said because they didn't care about frozen.>>740701067we don't know any worlds yet besides japan so earth. (which isn't new, peter pan has london)
>>740701335its called trauma lock and calling them losers doesn't fix it. actually, why are you even here.
>>740683972This semi realistic look is really garbage. They're testing waters to fuck series art into that direction.
>>740701241Because Lee is a bad writer
>>740683972That's because you skipped 70% of the games in the series
>>740701335Why does everyone assume im 40 from my description? Im 29!
>kingdom sharts>disney adults
>>740701673I only got a ps2 in 2005 ish
>>740683972no, it's because you're 40.
>>740699728>this sequel hinges on a game no one playedFuck nomura, man
>>740702010Even better. The sequel hinges on a game that didn't even release.
never played kingdom hearts because i don't like disney slop. it is any good?
KH4>Replaced the villain from KH1-3 with comic relief Marvel quipping mobile gacha character who appeared in 2 cutscenes in the actual games for 6 minutes and 36 seconds>Organization XIII is replaced with mobile gacha characters who have cardboard one dimensional personalities and appeared in 1 cutscene for 2 minutes and 55 seconds in the actual games>In order to understand backstory you need to play mobile gacha (WHICH IS OFFLINE NOW)>Another mobile gacha that was supposed to contain crucial backstory got cancelled>QTEs>Strong woman representation>Unreal Engine 5>Nomura is retiring and giving away the franchise to literally whoIT'S OVER
>>740702010I played it, all you had to do was leave you phone on for a week, it was an idle game.
This didn't look like it was in a presentable state at all, the hell have they been doing for 7 years?
>>740702305It is good but that doesn't mean you will like it.
>>740692739retard
>>740701335>in my 40sThe average poster on /v/ is 21-35 these days. I wouldn't waste my time coming here in my 40s.
>>740685174>>740686691Have you tried beating KH3 yet?
>>740683972where are the zippers?
>>740702470FFVII
Remember when Sora was kinda cool?
>>740702549I did. Didn't bother with the dlc after the disappointment.
>>740702709he was never cool
>>740698865No, the issue was how little FF there was, and by FF I don't mean a bitch billion of Nomura's OC, I mean actual FF characters and staples.
WTF is wrong with that trailer, how come there's no shadows at all, did they forget to turn on the option?Well, ironically I guess there are shadows, but I didn't mean it like that.
>>740702010You should be glad that the game got canceled, now they actually have to include it in the game
>>740699608>Marluxia's sister from Union Cross, previously dead.>Coof survivor man might be a character from Dark Road that got killed off.>Guy in purple might be Sigurd also from Dark Road, probably dead.>Luxord who died>Young Xehanrot and asian Sora both dead.I only played KH 1 and 2 so don't know what a single word means besides Sora
It's funny how I can tell who is a hardcore fan, a fan, a gameplay fan, a disney fan, and barry posting(kh edition).Even on youtube reactions lmao.
>>740699728it has to be this guycant remember if/how he dies in DR but if he did then it makes sense he'd wind up in quadratum eventually, i fucking guesshow long has strelitzia been there too now that i think about itfriendly reminder MoM name will be Vanitas
>>740683972I don't give a fuck nigga im on this hype train
Nomura will get his Versus XIII in one way or another whether you like it or not.
>>740702747If you beat kingdom hearts 3 you would know that sora for all intents and purposes, died. He is in the afterlife which is a version of real world shibuya.
>>7407029522 begs to differ. He's an absolute giga Chad badass in that game. It's peak Sora
>>740687024>luxord was noctis' driverdumbest greatest twist ever
>>740703232Ironically during the BBS/358/2 hype days, KH2 was considered a massive disappointment
>>740703331I distinctly remember many KH2 diehards back then, I was one of them.
>>740686691fuck off. Kingdom hearts has always been about the kingdom hearts characters. the Disney shit just adds to the weird factor
>>740703186All the upperclassmen were picked off and xehanort's class was wiped out all at once except for vor I think, who got to die on screen.
>>740703395Dude the discourse with fans was gigantic, it was emo kh2 late 2006 edge vs whimsy platformer kh1 guys
>>740703552>that sigil>sora's door of lightwhat does it mean
>>740703186He specifically dies in Baldrs school shooting.
>>740703679Sora had ephemer's heart inside him for the entire franchise
>>740703395The argument was that KH2 turned into a hallway simulator with too easy combat back then
>>740703798they were right on some points, but it did make the actual combat more fluid.
>>740683972Damn, Strelitzia looks so fucking hot here.Literally rape material. I hope Sora gets with her instead of that whore Kairi.
>>740686850Is that Sigurd?>>740687024Luxord my beloved
>>740703763I don't remember him getting a sigil
>>740703723Vali is a school shooting victim is gonna be the new esoteric lore fact to dump on people for KH4.
Guys how do we blame Disney for this realistic shibuyaslop garbage and these new boring looking OCs?I know we can do it somehow, because we aren't going to blame Nomura for any of this. Disney must have forced him to make KH IV look shit.
>>740704076Lol it really is Sigurd.>>740703186Why would MoM be vanitas, latin?
>>740703331That is crazy considering KH2 is without fucking question and by far the best game in the franchise
>People across the world are happy to get more KHIV news>/v/ is seethingWhy the difference?
>>740702305I dont necessarily like Disney either, but I like anime and shonen kino and action rpgs. the Disney stuff is just there mostly for the added strangeness of it all, the mix of Japanese and western flavors. you dont have to care about Disney whatsoever. but in kingdom hearts is cool and can be considered standalone separate from Disney. there are so many kino moments
>740704267>740704398why have you guys baited kh for a whole year on v, whats the point
>>740703331because of the story.
>>740703331no it wasn'tt. ps2 owner
>>740698503ALL I REALLY NEEEEEEEEEEEDIS ROOM TO BREATHBECAUSE THIS PRESSURE'SKILLING MEEEEEEEEEE
>>740702747Sora is in unreality (it's more realistic looking), they didn't actually change the art style that much when you see the parts with Donald, Goofy and Mickey, but on the Quadratum side it's way more realistic looking
The more they show of 4, the less i care about it, something about the "GRAPHIX" makes everyone look like soulless plastic dolls.
This is ass. More floaty gameplay and attraction flow commands bullshit. Not only that the trailer is more of the same from years ago. Show some new worlds and a couple FF characters.
>>740683972Does the entire game take place in Quadratum?
>>740687024So what's Luxord's original name?
>>740703956the self inserting yumes would go after nomura if sora ditched kairi
>>740704772Odrul
>>740704758No I believe Nomura said it's something like a hub world and that there's still gonna be disney worldsThink Traverse Town or Hollow Bastion but with way more focus and you probably go back there after each world
>>740704758Nah, we know Scala ad Caelum is coming back for a Mickey section based on past images. Olympus is in again, Return of the Jedi is also likely to be a world based on the original teaser. Elemental might also be in thanks to the latest Keyblade reveal.So good chance it'll be Quadatrum for the start, Disney shit, Quadatrum at the end
I can't wait to see them fight with Sora and kiss
>>740704758No fucking moron. Nomura already stated that in the first interview. It's akin to your Traverse Town or Radiant Garden in KH2.
>>740704772Rould or Ludorunless they say FUCK IT and do something completely different
>>740687024Why he look ugly now? Hopefully this art style is just this world.
>>740703214He did not have this realistic design in that after credit.
>>740704725>FF characters
>>740704772Ordul. Demyx is Ymed
>>740685174Nobody cares about the western garbage. No one will miss it.
>>740686691This looks more like Noctis than Yozora just with a different hair
>>740705215i'm still gonna say it's Myde
>>740702993Oh come you should remember gambler coat guy
>>740705145Yeah and the KH1 secret movie looks way different from KH2, what's new?
>>740704758>>740704962>quadratum is just the real world>disney movies are just movies in-universe>world select is going into movies/tv/games>one of the worlds is kingdom hearts
>>740705181What do the feathers mean.I still think this is Luxu
>>740704291his name will be vanitas to match with the names of his studentshe wont literally be the same character as the figure oulled from ventus and given the name vanitas in bbsyoung X's meeting with MoM is where he first learns the name, then gives it to Darkness drawn out of ventus
>>740705004their story will be about them reconciling the abortion conflict.
>>740703723Is that the reason xehanort became evil?Because his school was shot up?
>>740705367This is just another keyblade/chiblade moment.Hopefully Nomura doesnt do it again
>>740685174>Why does it look so "serious"? Where's the Disney stuff?I'd be so happy if it just ditched all that. KH has never done anything good with Disney and pretty much just barbarizes all the actual movies they try to incorporate. I'm happy for it to just go full on OC donut steel everything without apology.>The Disney characters has always been the bigger highlights.Since when? I even like Disney but see KH's take on Disney to be utter cringe and disrespectful to the source. Disney is right to want to distance itself from it.
>>740705347Based on Missing Link datamines before the game got canned, it'll probably be these two.
>>740701347>they made all this content for the game and then themselves decided to throw out all the content they already planned and made because they actually hated Frozen all along.That's a schizophrenic line of thought
>>740705347Unironically it may just be Sephiroth
>>740687564They look nothing like Versus characters
>>740705517Cause they are bird plague doctors or something? maybe.It's kinda exiting we are getting another kh2-like introduction with all new characters.
>>740705461Partially yes. The school shooting incident sorta pushed Xehanort down his path.Reminder. Nomura sees himself as Xehanort out of all KH characters.
>>740705339
>>740692271>FrozenIt had a good Japanese dub. If only the english dubbing industry had the same standards.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jjnI6M2UI
>>740700076>It would be boring if Verum Rex's entire game took place only in just Tokyo.You WILL have cool anime fights in Shibuya at night with sad piano and violin music and you WILL rike it
>>740705693Well there's at least 2 mystery hooded niggas this time around. 1 Male, 1 female. So it'll either be these getting re-used or maybe something like the Foretellers and Luxu.
>>740705339>final world is Kingdom HeartsOh yeah, it's kino
>>740685174the best world will always be olympus because of how it blended FF and disney seamlessly (we don't walk about 3)we need more FF characters in disney worlds
>>740703214>sora diedI don't think death is even a thing in KH
>>740705339>Sora saving his literally universe from dangerk i n o
>>740683972Seeing Young Xehanort STILL alive after being killed. I mean Sora has destroyed this bastard as a young man, as a man, and as an old wrinkled senior citizen and YET here he is again. I can't stand how Death is a Joke in Kingdom Hearts. This kind of writing is why the series lost a lot of good will, its way to terrible to even defend. Not even Sonic is that bad because when characters die they tend to stay dead in Sonic. Death actually holds some kind of weight.Nomura, Yasue, and Nojima have totally ruined every bit of good will these characters and stories used to have. And death being meaningless is not the only problem, how about time travel? How about clone characters? How about multiverse shenanigans? All of these usually break stories but Nomura combined them all into one united yet terrible story.
>>740705498No Donald and Goofy is the definition of soulless
I hope for a Zootopia world.
More trolling, c'mon.Remember Unknown from KH1, or the Ansem reports.Sora's suicide too, with the keyblade.Noone is gonna fall for that
Since Nomura is talking retirement, I am showing up for his final game...
>>740705570May not be Sephiroth. Nomura loves Archangels in general. This is why Rinoa from a different Final Fantasy also has angel wings and Ultimecia also has black angel wings long before Sephiroth gained his annoying one wing. Nomura loves angels. This is why Sora in Remind can grow a lone angel's wing similar to Angeal from Crisis Core. Its Nomura's Christianity fetish. Sora may as well be Nomura's Archangel Michael.
>>740706286Young Xehanort was never really killed. He went back to his own timelline. Old Man Xehanort did die, but if you played Dark Road, Xehanort said he wanted 14 lives. Memory Xehanort knew about Quadratum when fighting Sora and Kairi.
>>740706548>>740705004The characters would loog great, but I fucking hope they don't do it like Bh6, that map is a fucking cube with nothing on it.
>>740706225According to Nomura himself there is no concept of death within Kingdom Hearts, its all about reincarnation. And if you're special enough you can remember your old life.
>>740706286i mean if sora, strelitzia, Vali, MoM, etc can all wind up in quadratum after dying/being naughty boys why cant xehanort (and maybe eraqus)
I hope this nigga shows up just for shits and gigs.
I feel like there are only 3~4 anons circlejerking about the story because i doubt many people played the mobile games to know what the fuck is on and these names
>>740706762>become a rapist>the universe takes pity and just gives you a new blank slate>do great>you are pretty much a demigodis KH heaven?
>>740706865I still have it on my phone
helpi can't motivate myself to finish 3i dont care about frozen, monsters inc, big hero 6, tangled! and the new pirates world looks like trash too!how did it become this shitty?
>>740706727>that map is a fucking cube with nothing on itDon't worry, that'll be Quadratum. The rest of the worlds will be 3-4 small rooms, organized in a straight line. Enjoy!
>>740706548God no that movie is trash. Hey everyone you got to try multiculturalism and diversity for NO REASON! Ignore the riots and societal difficulties! Those are blamed on random blue flowers that everyone knew about except Judy who grew up around those flowers and should have known about them. Anyway ignore the problems and BE DIVERSE! And in Zootopia 2 this message is worse but using Reptiles as Non Whites!Zootopia is shit. Any white kid who liked that movie deserves to become a victim of a criminal Non White. Disney is a cesspit of Leftist Shit.
yeah I wasn't feeling much eitherit wasn't that what I saw was objectionable so much that kh3 just took the wind out of this IP's sails
>>740705526this is the first time im hearing about cut content, bare in mind I waited 13 years so I realllly don't care about the drama and your theories. and since you called me a schizo like a mossad prick, go fuck yourself and thread closed.
>>740706829>ValiWho?
>>740705498Kingdom Hearts is the most respectful thing Disney has done this century to their properties, Nomura zippers and all.
>>740706940Yes. From a Buddhist angle it's also more like nirvana.
>>740707023holy shit I haven't booted up bluestacks in years lmao
>>740707314Mobile OC from the Xehanort prequel. Nomura intended the story to be much bigger but then Square Enix told him to axe it after 3 months so they rushed through everything.Likelihood is Nomura wants to use all his OC's invented for the mobile games he didn't get to flesh out in KH4 instead.
Did everyone just collectively forget that we're gonna play as Mickey in Scala Ad Caelum from the picture shown last year?
>>740705498Right, the reason the first few games were so well received is this, Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and Birth by Sleep utilized iconic classic Disney films. These are timeless classics. So gamers tolerated the Disney Filler because its based on great films.But Kingdom Hearts ran out of good films. And now the Disney Filler is really fucking annoying. No one who has standards considers shit like Encanto, Moana, Inside Out, Wish, etc as good films let alone interesting for Kingdom Hearts. The series is better off simply retiring the Disney bullshit besides having Donald and Googy for shenanigans because the magic of Donald and Goofy is that they are flexible characters for crying out loud Donald has a super hero comic series alter ego independent from regular Donald Duck media. So Donald and Goofy can stay dealing with the anime OCs.
>>740707307Proving my point there.
>>740683972So no one is going to mention how this game is being restricted to the shitty Switch 2? So much for wanting to see more advanced graphics. Damn Nintendo. Oh well Sora better stay in Smash if Kingdom Hearts 4 is going to be on the Switch 2. But still I wanted BETTER graphics than this. What's the point of Sony's console if the developer won't maximize its power?
>>740686691Literal cope. The Disney shit was gay as fuck and only interesting in KH1. Kingdom Hearts grew past Disney slop.
>>740683972Hype is gone for Kingdom Hearts. The last game that was fueled by hype was 3 and that game disappointed a lot of people. So 4 was never going to measure up.And another thing Square Enix doesn't want to admit this but modern new young gamers don't give a fuck about Kingdom Hearts to them its cringe. Its embarrassing. Its LAME. Kingdom Hearts failed the test of time which tells you if it can appeal to a new generation.
Wait you can change to JP voice in the Switch 2 version???https://youtube.com/shorts/PUaoL8FFUqU
There's two types of Kingdom Hearts fans.Type one>Damn I love Winnie the Pooh.Type two>GRGGGH, FUCKING DISNEY HOLDING NOMURA'S OC'S HOSTAGE. THEY SHOULD STOP FOCUSING ON THE DISNEY SHIT AND FOCUS ON THE MAIN PLOT. AND THROW IN SOME FINAL FANTASY CHARACTERS WHILE THEY'RE AT IT.
>>740708341>Kingdom Hearts IV will be available for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series, Switch 2, and PC via Steam, Epic Games Store, and Microsoft Store when it launches, Square Enix announced. A release date was not announced.
>>740708789Can you not in the Steam version? Anyway it's a simple copy and paste. I bought the Japanese version on EGS just for that.
>>740708826nah pooh always sucked and nomuras oc became absolute dogshit after 2
>>740708990You can in the steam version. In fact the Japanese version of KHIII PS4 after the Remind dlc + Patch allowed you to use both English and Japanese voices.
>>740709015>nah pooh always sucked
>>740708826Nah, Pooh is cool, but Disney shit needs to go. KH doesn't need Disney anymore.
>>740683972Anyone else not like the whole Sora is Asian shit that Nomura is forcing for Kingdom Hearts 4? For the new artwork Nomura did for the new collection Sora looks even less Asian than ever.
>franchise exists long enough for it's own fans to forget why it's goodlol
>>740701225>Shiki got censored in HD releaseShe did? How so?
>>740709620Castle Oblivion'd
>>740709421Sora is literally a japanese name
>>740689330He loves street fashion and Shibuya is the capital of it in Japan. TWEWY was a big love letter to the culture.
>>740683972Sucks to be you faggot. Might as well kill yourself. You don't matter, bitch. You never will.
>>740709421He is from a tropical island
>>740708826I do love Winnie the Pooh. His story was over after KH2 though and KH3 even acknowledges this because Sora's getting too jaded to enjoy Hundred Acre Woods anymore.Also both him and Tigger the Nigger kicked my cock in on his fucking Command Board.
>>740683972Strelitzia looking FERTILE.
>>740683972So the soulless/nonsensical final fantasy stuff finally took over, huh?
>>740683972imagine the porn
>>740708826fans>WHEN WILL NOMURA BECOME UNCHAINED FROM THIS STUPID GAY DISNEY SHITNomura>I never explained why Mickey was shirtless at the end of KH1 I better address that
>>740710104I wonder if they'll adapt the 2018 live-action movie. Would've been too recent for them to incorporate into 3, and better fits 4's reality/fiction themes
So what exactly is the plot to kingdom hearts?
>>740711059Darkness.
>>740711059EVERLASTING DARKNESS
>>740711059mostly darkness
>>740711059Kigndom hearts............. is light!
>>740711059Sometimes you just gotta gaslight your students into starting a world war as an excuse to get rid of those dirty dark folk. And if that doesn't work out, gaslight a school shooting survivor into doing it again on a lower scale. Who cares what happens in between as long as we get rid of those darkies.
>>740711059Along time ago people had a war over who controlled god. They became ontologically good and evil.The apocalypse happened.One school shooting survivor was like "if I cause another apocalyptic war then surely all the darkness will die"He then proceeded to fuck up the lives of a bunch of children to make them fight him. He lost. Now one of those children and him are in the afterlife trying to fight somebody who was like "well if reality sucks just go to a different dimension, surely that will kill all the darkness"
>>740711471>hates the darkies>brings his problems with him to JapanStupid gaijin
>>740711471UH, ALL THE DARKNESS OR NIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OUT OF THIS REALITY BECAUSE IT'S FOR LIGHT ONLY, UNDERSTAND, OR I WILL GENOCIDE ALL OF MY STUDENTS AGAIN!!!
>>740689642It’s almost like the trailer literally says that. Like them not being a natural part of the world is the entire point or something.
>>740686691Modern Disney is soi and cringe.I'm glad this game is leaning more into the anime side of the franchise.
All I wanted was for KH4 to go back to the basics and recapture the magic of KH1. This feels entirely wrong.
>>740711471>>740712160Holy shit is this actually the plot? i need to emulate this asap
>>740709851>he loves X so he'll keep referencing the most surface level thing associated with XHe sounds like a pseud
I enjoyed KH3, it's about as good as KH2 maybe even slightly better. KH1 still reigns supreme
>>740702010I son’t think it’s really a problem. Xehanort is there. He’ll explain the gist to Sora. It’s basically just:>Yeah I had to stop a school shooter at my school and most of my peers were murdered. Guess they’re here now.
>>740712284No, the plot is incomprehensible gibberish that's why you'll never get a serious reply
>>740685174kingdom hearts has been super duper serious business since chain of memories
>>740685174Disney was the worst part of KH3. Just delete that shit from the franchise because it's fucking GAY
>finished KH1 on Proud>it was very miserable experience>now playing KH2 on Critical>it's still very miserable experienceCan somebody explain why Kingdom Hearts is the only series where I can't react on attacks at all. Why is that so difficult for me in that series exactly?
>>740697201>Eh I've mostly tolerated Disney stuff I mainly play it for Nomura's wild ride.The Disney stuff was pure soul
>>740712641>KH3 about as good as KH2 maybe even slightly betterYou spend 3 hours playing though the story of Frozen. Your argument is invalid
>>740687103>even xehanort is wearing plaid
>>740712778>You spend 3 hours playing though the story of Frozen.skill issue
>>740712284That's the plot from the shitty mobile games that are now the main plotline for 4 and onwards. KH1 and 2 are involved with none of this
>>740712284It's a jokey summary of the mobile game plot. Of course there's a lot more into it and it's your typical anime motivations for stuff. MoM hates Darkness. Tricks his students into having a civil war to allow them to become vessels for darkness so he can destroy darkness. Does the same thing again with tricking Xehanort years and years later.
Just watched the trailer and yeah it’s over…
>>740692739>Disney was the worst part of KH, exemplified by the game where the Disney stuff is less consequential than ever before.
>>740687103friendnort kino
>>740702307I don't mind side games that elaborate on parts of the story or go into more detail of side stories/ events, but putting key plot points in mobile gacha shit was insanely retarded. I remember laughing at the keyblade graveyard scene where Sora gets saved by a bunch of OCs that was supposed to be a big payoff moment for fans of some side game, but ended up looking silly because no one had any idea who the fuck any of those people were.
>>740712718Is it the lack of animation cancels?
>>740683972This trailer is not doing that well with the views. Notice how trailers for things like Spyro's new game, Zelda Ocarina of Time Remake, and Resident Evil Veronica all had great number of views? Some of which broke a million views within a few hours like the new Persona? Kingdom Hearts 4's new trailer is performing WORSE than Final Fantasy 7 Revelations. This is honestly worrying. Kingdom Hearts 4 may be a failure in the making.
>>740685174The Disney stuff was always pure filler and all the important plot points revolve around edgy spiky haired dudes in black robes
>>740713693That's what happens when you leave a franchise on an 8 year cliff-hanger and the only thing you've got to show in your big return trailer 4 years after announcement is an extended look at the footage you showed back at the initial announcement.This is entirely on Square and by extension FF7
>>740704561You were either too young to have been part of the discourse or you're too young right nowLots of faggy boomers thought that KH2 was shit because their brains were turned to mush from playing ATB slop for a decade and they mashed their way through it like retardsThey also didn't like that it was too "emo" because they had this weird perception of FF1 as being this game about shirtless D&D sword & sorcery baras having a gay orgy with time traveling Satan
>>740683972looks like a fucking mobile gamethis took them 20 years to make?
>>740683972did they change her hair? wasn't it bright orange?
>>740714059
>>740712718You just have low IQ
>>740712570>Making a game about something you love is cringe actuallyTypical deranged Nomura hater.
>>740699065Wish that were true but the shitty Disney Sequels like...Moana 2Inside Out 2Frozen 3Incredibles 2Zootopia 2All have been successful to a disgusting extreme. Expect Frozen 3 and Toy Story 5 to also be successful. There's still too many retards who like Disney and they aren't Disney Adults.
>>740712718You’re not supposed to play it like a Souls game
>>740713883This.This trailer isn't exciting. Then again neither was the lame trailer of Zelda Ocarina of Time which is the worst trailer shown in recent times. Showing Link sleeping is not impressive. However Kingdom Hearts has worse things than a cliffhanger from years ago to be concerned with, the series has become flawed in many ways so gamers are burned out on Kingdom Hearts.
so how are they gonna integrate Missing Link stuff into thisbecause they set up a lot of bullshit
>>740705729Does that mean nomura decided to make this bullshit story after the is equivalent of a school shooting happened to him?
Is KH4 going to be even more confusing without knowledge of the gacha games?
>>740715059Probably going to go forward with the story being told as planned and if we're lucky, we get another back cover release for Missing Link's plot once they've got all the voice actors of who's playing who figured out.
>>740705339>>740706113>Final Chapter.>The Chapter name is: The Kingdom HeartsKino Inbound.
Sad thing is that Nomura will keep gaslighting us into thinking Disney is the worst part of KH right now, only because he barely makes any effort for those world to have any coherent connection with the plot anymore beyond Yen Sid hanging around like Gandalf, Disney movies being filler episodes and MUH KINGDOM HEARTS around them, all just to push his retarded zipper twink aesthetic over and overI'd be content if they admitted Disney is a bitch to work with in terms of coypright and that's the reason they didn't adapt many other movies/series/etc, but it's more probable that Nomura's autism overtook everything
>>740715263Because the gacha games all got killed the information will actually be in game now so don’t worry, just treat them as new characters
>>740705498>i'd be so happy if the crossover game ditched half the crossoverYou want Final Fantasy anon
>>740715346We already know Disney is a bear to work with, if Frozen didn't make it very plainly obvious
>>740715059>include it as a movie like x back coverI'm hoping it'll be this
They should remake UX now Square's in the mood to make full games out of their gacha-slop. Then throw Dark Road and Missing Link's plots in a bundle with it as two movies like Back Cover.
Any chance we get a skiing level?
>>740715059It’s gonna be the Mickey sections I thinkThe info last year said he would be in Scala as Caelum, he’s probably gonna find more about the ancient keyblade wielders from before
>>740715439Ehhh 358/2 and BBS were okay since they told sidestories. All the other ones were just cash grabs that added NOTHING to the plot like CoM and DDD.
>>740683972>More gachalore shoved from the dead gachaGoddamn Nomura, what the fuck are those retards thinking?
Why is XEHANORT still fucking alive? Can this nigger fuck off already?
>>740715954It’s too important, they have to be in the main story, just like how KH3 in some ways felt like a sequel to BBS more than KH2
How long do we think it's been in active development for? Because I am assuming FF7 Remakes played a part in how long it's been since we've seen anything
never played kh3kh4s trailer looked liked absolute asssome golden chain as a summon?noctis in real life japan?jesus this series went to absolute dog shitkh1 and kh2 ftw
The game just looks so ugly. Maybe partly because its still kinda early in development, but everything has that terrible glossy unreal engine look
>>740715346Remember when kingdom hearts was cute disney world and characters meets final fantasy characters with an overarching wholesome storyRemember that?
>>740716249You either plqyed the gachas and are onboard for nomuras wild ride or you never cared that much in the first place.
>>740716109>What about Spyro the Dragon, Crash Bandicoot, and Sonic fans? They're older than Kingdom Hearts fans.Eh first two are in the same ballpark
>>740715520I think Frozen is more the exception then the rule. By the time 3 was out Frozen was still the hottest fucking brand Disney had so it at least make sense that the suits would want to keep it "pure" or whatever, but all the other worlds in KH were fair game. BH6 was a psuedo sequel, Toy Story got to be an inbetween adventure, they fucked around fine in Monsters Inc, etc etc. Even the Tangled World despite it being an entire retelling like Frozen at least made Sora a part of the cast so you joined the in the fun.I dont think well ever know the full extent of the meddling but honestly the Disney worlds in KH3 get a bad rap when Frozen was the only unapologetic stinker
>>740716181It probably started in 2022 but when they canceled ML and moved to UE5 it was a soft restart on it a year or so ago
>>740702709You mean Chain of Memories Sora? 2 Sora was a fucking faggot thanks to THAT scene
>>740716380no i grew up with kh1and played kh2i dont want the gacha shit nor am i gonna ever play kh3 mostly because no german dub
>>740715725>Everything else can be ignoredThat kind of thinking it's what drove us to this point, you idiot.We could have a group of villains plotting alongside Xehanort+12 like Frollo (once again), Mr. Facilier, some of the newer TRON bullshit. We could have interactions with the cast of Treasure Planet, considering this is basically space exploration through the Disney galaxy. And we're not even getting to the Pixar stuff, considering the merge years ago. We could visit another worlds that arent fucking Olympus for the Nth timeWe could have a LOT more interactions than just Mickey, Donald and Goofy. The point is that we didn't, and that's a shame
>>740683972I really need them to show me some other worlds for my interest to build up for it, because I'm getting increasingly worried that the entire game is just going to be set in Toyko where the only Disney characters that appear will be Mickey, Donald, and Goofy.
The gameplay looks just like KH3. It looks like spacing and zoning aren't a thing when you look at the trailer. Sora is just swinging his keyblade around, doing full combo strings without hitting a single enemy to start the combo string. You would think something as small as this isn't important, but it is; it can completely fuck up the feeling of the gameplay. Being able to spam a full combo string without hitting an enemy to initialize it can make the gameplay feel spammy and automatic.
>>740716603Whole series went to absolute shit after kh2, introducing the anime 13 club and all that backstory with aqua and whoevertehfuck was a gigantic mistake
>>740685174Nomura wants this to be his FFXIII Versus, don't look at it as an honest KH4.
>>740715737I would love a UX remake, however it would miss out on the ludonarrative experience of discussing with others as the events unfold over time to theorize and come to an understandingI think if they just threw the full story as a remake for you to consume on your own it might just confuse people
>>740686691because its what sells and what the KH fandom keeps buying? what retarded question is this.
Somehow Xehanort returned
>>740716104> just like how KH3 in some ways felt like a sequel to BBS more than KH2More like a fucking retread by god. I fucking hate how in retrospect most of the big set pieces of KH3 were already done in BBS. Aside from Scala Ad Caelum most of that shit felt like an asset flip of BBS. Makes me wish that the old school theories of that secret ending of KH2 being adult versions Sora Riku and Kairi was actually true. BBS should have just been fucking 3
>>740716785Then you just do what they did in the mobile game and make 65% of it feel like reruns of Agrabah
>>740716483What scene
>>740716671What happened to the KH2 combat team? I played KH2 just last year and couldn't believe how well the gameplay held up.
>>740716104Funny enough, KH3 is meant to be BBS 2, but Square forced Nomura to make it KH3. All of this comes from an old Japanese-only magazine where Nomura was talking about wanting to create BBS 2 and something about Sora going missing.
Why are they showing off this game in a generic Unreal Engine asset flip city? They realize people only play these games for the Disney worlds, right? I guess not.
>>740716342I remember Maleficient, Oogie Boogie, Captain Hook and even fucking Clayton plotting about the light princessesI remember Leon (notSquall) hacking into the TRON world by a computer and Auron trolling Hades in the UnderworldI remember Mickey helping Riku in CoM and actually feeling like a cool momentAll that is lost>>740716724Exactly
>>740716880I could tell by KH3 that Nomura was tired of the dark seeker saga, all the interesting lore was happening in KHUX at that point, Yozora was the only real big reveal in KH3. In fact the foretellers were introduced as far back as like 2014 when it was a browser game
>>740716860>returned
>>740716671It sucks cause Kh4 was the perfect opportunity to make Sora start from square 1 power wise being "dead and all that. When you commit too much to the idea of Sora being this unstoppable force that can zip and zoom around is that every move needs to be this extra special fuck you combo and not just a simple 1, 2, 3 that just feels good. Like even DMCV Dante has a more grounded moveset
>>740716950The kneeling>B-but he did it for Kairi!!Cope
JJK Culling Games?Also those building environments look flat as hell. Wow it looks terrible.
>>740717270>All that is lostAnd that's why i stop after Kh2, there's no kh3, nothing happened after kh2 in my headcanon
>>740716104>Actually Mickey could have gone to save Aqua at any moment but he didn't It will never not be hilarous, they made him look like an asshole, a weak asshole at that after being a top tier fighter in 2
>>740717453The world ends with you mixed with ff versus 13
WHEN YOU WALK AWAYYOU CAN HEAR ME SAYwhat the ffffffuck was that kh3 theme man
>>740683972Looks even further removed from the soul found in KH1 and 2.
>>740717162They went to make Versus13 but then had to work on 14 then they had to work on 15 then they had to work on 7 remake so on and so onThat team has been scattered to high heaven and will probably never touch KH again and Nomura will have to cope with Osaka til the end of time
>my world / getaway island got swallowed by darkness and my friends are gone too!>together we can fight the darkness!vs>yeah so we finna be 13 faggots in a club and big old dude got dem big keyblade n shi
>>740717749Chuunibyou is automatically soul and nomura will never escape his chuuni
>>740718076Moana is fine, everyone would love a Moana world. Sora himself is an islander.But agreed on the others
>>740702993>I only played KH 1 and 2Yeah we fuckin' know.Why you tourists continue to not play more games is beyond me.
>KH2>SoulKH2 started all the bullshit you people complain about in modern Kingdom Hearts. The only difference is back then watching Sora cut through a building made you cream your little 10 year old pants and go>JUST LIKE MUH NARUTOOOOSKH1 will always be Kingdom Hearts at it's best because it's setting and story is simple and clean.
>>740718205>Why you tourists continue to not play more games is beyond me.Because the plot gets batshit crazy? Because there's 0 likeable characters? Because KH isn't this anime gay club? Because every other game beside 1 and 2 strayed so far from the original KH idea that it shouldnt ever be called KH again?
James is shilling already. How much screentime does that mean Hade's gonna get?
>>740718076we could have had>darkwing duck>gargoyles>dinosaurs (?)>emperors new schoolcountless classics that couldve been cool worlds
Drive Forms>>>>>>Attraction ride slop
>>740698376>Behold, the new Kingdom Hearts 4 watch by Super Groupies!>$499 US Dollars>Unavailable outside of Japan>Is a basic-ass analog watch
>>740717162>>740717793we live in a cursed timeline, this sucks.
>>740718461sadly i agree>>740718214this tooyou could aready see the cracks with kh2 im still not a fan of "press triangle for cuhrazy animation"but kh3s attraction ride summon bullshit is just....no
>>740718461>more gameplay > less gameplayholy shit no way
Was it Nomurakino?
>>740718594Mfw playing KH2 after KH1 and not understanding why Sora was in that pod at all
>>740718076>MoanaUh, bro, Japan and Hawaii have some history together; there is a reason why Lilo and Stitch don't have a Hawaii-based world yet. But it does look like she is in the game if you look at that fire and water keyblade from the new trailer.
>>740715912>All the other ones were just cash grabs that added NOTHING to the plot like CoM and DDD.Both of those literally introduce the next villain group for the mainline game. CoM is much more of a rehash, I won't argue that at all, but DDD is just a straight sequel to KH2 with KH3 starting directly from where it left off.
>KH2 wasn't kin-
>>740718286>Because the plot gets batshit crazy?Have you tried fucking paying attention? It doesn't take a master's degree to understand the plot, it just requires you to PLAY THE GAMES.>Because there's 0 likeable characters? Because KH isn't this anime gay club?More tourist behavior.>Because every other game beside 1 and 2 strayed so far from the original KH idea that it shouldnt ever be called KH again?Your headcanon of what the series is isn't actually what the series is. You like the IDEA of Kingdom Hearts more than the real thing. Play the fucking games or fuck off, the series is literally not made for you.
>>740718841Even outside of KH we haven't gotten something this cool in decades.
I wonder if the keyblade wielders are going to be seen as the bad guys in Quadratum. Their deaths bringing them there caused the concept of heartless and darkness to be created from their memory.Luxord and Yozora's faction can natives of Quadratum who want to permanently erase them/send them back to where they came to stop the spread
Whenever I see someone talk about Star Wars in KH, all I can think of is Palpy talking about the darkness being the true side of the force then getting turned into a Heartless for the boss fight. Seriously, one of the most annoying parts of 3, making every boss a Heartless. Let me fucking fight Zurg, you didn't even use anything of him.
>>740718947>It doesn't take a master's degree to understand the plot, it just requires you to PLAY THE GAMES.You shouldn't have to buy 4 different consoles to understand the story in the first place >More tourist behavior.Ok>Your headcanon It's what the series is to me that counts
>>740685174Nomura wanted to make his own FFXV with blackjack and hookers.
>>740718641To be fair, Sora literally doesn't know either, nor does Roxas.
>>740715059Completely ignore it and/or put it into the reports for this game
>>740719092Never could be bothered to buy a 3DS i think? for the COM game
why does the trailer look so rough?? its like some indie fucking game
>won’t understand ANY of the characters if you didn’t play/watch the shutdown mobile gameKek it’s chain of memories all over again
>>740719196its for the investors
I don't want Sora to reunite with Donald and Goofy until KH6, they should team up with Roxas in the mission of looking for Sora, let Sora be on his own or have a completely new team with Xehanort and another secondary.
>>740719040>You shouldn't have to buy 4 different consoles to understand the story in the first placeTBF this hasn't been the case in over a decade. Master collections of everything leading up to III was released on PS3, and then several times including III on PS4 and now the Switch/Switch 2.
>>740719040>You shouldn't have to buy 4 different consoles to understand the story in the first placeALL of the games are available in collections nowadays. On every console. You have no excuse.>It's what the series is to me that countsWrong. You're not in charge, and not even a fan. Just a tourist.
was the money from the gacha games worth it for the confusion and disconnect from the fans? i actually liked chain of memories, bbs, 358/2 days, but I cannot stand how the gachas gameplay loop (based on what I've seen on youtube)
>>740710695I remember wanting to watch this movie. Never got to the movie theatre to see it.
>>740694115The HUD always change like 3-4 times during all the trailers for these games. Whenever KH3 disappeared and came back with a new trailer, the HUD would always look different. This time, the focus bar is there which wasn't present in the previous trailer/photo dumps. Also the Sora portrait changed for the third time I think
>>740719296>>740719303Fair point>Wrong. You're not in charge, and not even a fan. Just a tourist.Lol i'm in charge of what i deem canon anon, so yeah KH1+2 is the only canon
>>740719303are you mageknight41
>still the best boss fight in the entire franchise
>>740719406Who the fuck is that?
>>740719419not even close
>>740719419i remember that cgi hidden cutscene where riku and roxas run up a clock tower and fightthat shit was kino
>>740719196Its still missing that polish they ended up doing for KH3 when the trailers the year before release came out, but the Direct showed the Switch footage which was super jank and low quality. There is still some jank, but on the KH youtube page it shows PC or PS5 footage and everything from the resolution to the frames all looked better
>>740719026>spoilerWasn't the only Disney villains that got a boss fights in 3 the Titans and Davy Jones? I guess evil baymax counts as well.
>>740717630to be fair to Mickey he wouldn't have known specifically where to look, he just knew she was trapped in the World of Darkness but he only met Aqua briefly during the climax of KH and then lost track of her after that, and then there was a lot of other bullshit to deal with Organization XIII afterwards.
>>740718641Chain of Memories was a fabulous game. I wish its gameplay was the foundation for the series.
>>740719675>rng card gamenahhhhh
>>740683972I wanna fuck this bitch.
>>740719675no I'm okay with it being a spinoff but yeah I like it too. But I am not fine with KH being fully card based.>>740719726nothing rng bout it
>>740719304It didn't even sell that well, Nomura just needed somewhere to write his autistic lore and Square wouldn't give him another side game
>>740719675Has anyone made an homage to its gameplay?It's already a roguelike deckbuilder with pixel graphics, shit practically sells itself
>>740719893of course but does this bitch wanna fuck you?
>>740683972>i have kingdom hearts derangemenr syndrome and at best am a secondary. i need to constantly remind everyone how cool and mature i am because i dont like itthis is what mature people do, inceasantly talk about how much they dont like thinf
>>740720049it could technically be roguelike if you use the Mingling Worlds card on every new room so the contents would be randomizedAlthough the map structure is predetermined so I don't know if that counts as roguelike or not since I assumed the map has to be randomly generated in roguelikes
What made him such a beloved character?
>>740687024>>740687103>>740686850>>740686691>>740683972Looks like Unreal Engine sloppa lol
>>740719254I have bad news...
>>740686691We've been heading in the direction to cut off Disney since KH2
>>740720635TragedyRoxas got one of the most bum deals in existence. He shouldn't have existed in the first place, managed to find some minor solace despite doing so in the company of others like him (Xion/Axel), then Xion an-heroes because fate demanded, he was used by his own organization and his organization's enemies in pursuit of controlling someone even more important than him he was intricately tied to and yet never even met, he was thrown into a fake world with fake friends and learned everything was a lie and his whole existence is purely to prop up his 'original' self who, again, he had no real connection to. And despite all of that, he makes peace with the rough deal fate dealt him and finds acceptance with the cards life dealt himI personally don't like how KH3 undoes his tragedy but I think there's a catharsis to finally seeing him get a legitimately happy ending too.Also he's really cool in how he dual wields the two strongest keyblades.
>>740686691KH is an obvious case of the creative team clearly wanting to do something else but the execs force them to make endless sequels.
>>740683972>Nigga who skipped 20 years of content shares his opinion
>>7407185542 is a fantastic game, but I do think it’s ironic that it’s considered by many to be this untouchable peak of the series when it was divisive upon release and it’s mostly glazed for its FM exclusive post-game content and kino sections like the 1000 heartless battle. 2 is a game with extremely high highs and extremely low lows. 1 is a more consistently excellent game across the board even though 2’s peaks are a transcendent level of quality.
>>740686691Nomura REALLY loves his Noctis design and really REALLY malds about what happened to Versus XIII
I think kh4 wont have gummi travel but you use shibuya square every time you walk to another worldThat way you can dump exposition on the player after every single world instead of the kh3 problem where 80% of it happened right at the end.
>>740721016Nomura is the one who wants to keep making KH, Versus XIII was even supposed to be connected to it
>>7407210482 has way better pacing and way less "those moments" than 1. 1 can be fucking insufferable at moments, moments that were way harder to power through than KH2 when I replayed them on Steam a couple years ago. The Gummi ship stuff in general is nearly unplayable. Great atmosphere though.
>>740702503To be frank nobody should waste their time after 22 at the latest. If you're here after that I expect you've already lost all hope in yourself, so what does it matter if your here in your 40s.This goes doubly for kiddie shit like this series.
>>740683972sex
>>740721113I don’t blame him honestly. Based on what we knew about Versus XIII, it had the potential to be his magnum opus, and yet it got screwed over by internal company politics.
>>740702307Did this get updated? I feel like 3 thing that are on here weren't before.
>>740721232Yeah that’s why they call Quadratum a huge hub worldTo be honest the gummi ship missions themselves in KH3 were pretty fun but the whole going from world to world thing in the ship felt a bit dated because it isn’t like you actually interact with Donald and Goofy in the ship outside of cutscenes, you’d finish a world, have 15 minutes of cutscenes and then end up in the next one right away
Can we get to the bottom of something fucking serious instead of all this back and forth bickering about the franchises quality? Simple and Clean or Sanctuary
>>740721648Simple and CleanSanctuary is fine but it was never as catchy or as memorable as the original song. Nothing in this series or any other series is as memorable as Simple and Clean.
Looks cool. But isn’t this just more of the same? In the last trailer, years ago, Sora was fighting the same Heartless kaiju. And I'm mildly annoyed that Xehanort is around, something we've had soft confirmation on because of Nomura's art. I'm just tired of that guy. But I am happy we FINALLY got a new trailer.
>>740719538>There is still some jank, but on the KH youtube page it shows PC or PS5 footage and everything from the resolution to the frames all looked betterIt didn't look that shitty = "good".
>>740721648Sanctuary. I prefer Hikari the most though.
>today you learned Hikari Utada is literally American
>>740718404Ten bucks it's him just shitposting.
>>740721251>Versus XIII was even supposed to be connected to itNo it's fucking not
>>7407213311’s low points are the gummi sections (which are mediocre Star Fox sections that are tolerable once you learn how to build a decent ship). 2’s low points are some of the more cringy cutscenes, the level design and also Atlantica (which is optional, but necessary for the Ultima and 100%). 2 does have a much higher level of cringe in its writing than 1 and some of the cutscenes in 2 are genuinely badly directed, while 1 never had that problem.
>>740721648I remember getting goosebumps from seeing KH2's commercial on TV. And I used to play Riku's story over and over in CoM since it was the fastest final boss fight to get the credits to listen to Simple and Clean. I can't choose bro ;_;
>>740720460Yeah it could use more roguelike elements. The game would be more attractive if it were shorter and had a sharper difficulty curve to encourage replays, challenge runs, or a permadeath mode.For mainstream games, experimental gameplay + high skill ceiling just isn't profitable. I doubt we'll see something like that out of KH these days.
>>740721113You don't say
>>740721648>Simple and Clean or SanctuaryDon't Think Twice
Kh should have been an anthology series. It’s stale because they won’t retire sora and crew
>>740685174Fuck off.
>>740720635He "dies".
>>740721648Hot take: the PlanitB Remix of Simple and Clean isn’t that good and I would have preferred some other song for KH1’s OP.
>>740685174>>740686691Is this the zoomers and their dogshit opinions again? You faggots never liked Kindgom Hearts if you unironically think this
>>7407213916.5/10 at best. She nowhere near as hot as Kairi. Especially KH2 Kairi.
>>740690293Fuck off nigger
The key to the franchise has always been balanceYou need both goofy cartooney baby Disney aesthetic AND edgy brooding FF teen anime aesthetic coming togetherThe contrast between these two extremes coming together is what makes KH sovl
>>740695906That would be hilarious
>>740720635Being a retarded corpse for most of the series helps
>>740697767In a interview he expressed that he felt like KH and Versus were like children to him. Imagine how he felt after losing one. He even did the thing parents do when their grieve over a child. KH3 was full of versus shit like dressing up Riku as Noctis and the secret ending. Ripping out all Final Fantasy stuff felt like an angry reaction to it too
>>740683972Animations are shitter than ever.-Floaty-No weight-No impact-Sora is being swung around by the keyboard instead of the keyblade being swung by sora-Floats just above the ground and is unable to get back down.Also enemies don't even have shadows.
>>740723260Pure blood heartless have never had shadows
>>740721648>>740722197Don't Think Twice is such a jam and should've been the opening instead of that gay skrillex shit
What was /v/'s reaction to this?
>>740700303We thought this after the first game btw
>>740723930I swore I would never ask Sakurai for anything else ever again after what that crazy son of a bitch managed to deliver
>>740702503I bet you said this in your teen years lmao
>>740703186MoM is Demyx and you wont change my mind on this
>>740723930Being honest it was a disappointing trailer. Sora doesn't do much interacting with the characters he's meeting. And his actual move set was disappointing. Hope that since Kingdom Hearts 4 is going to be for the Switch 2 that Sora returns and they improve his move set.
It's missing the wonder and the novelty of seeing traditionally animated character carefully preserved and translated into 3d. The other issues are that the gameplay has been altered so much that it's not even the same game as 1 and 2 and is closer to 3 and DDD. Also, what worlds are there to look forward to? NuStar Wars and Marvel? Oh boy... can't wait to play in franchises that are long since past their prime and are as soulless as this game is gonna be.It really is sad they couldn't at least give all the characters a satisfying conclusion with 3 and instead left open a massive cliffhanger.
>>740704758We've already seen other worlds in old trailers
I wish we got at least one new Disney world confirmation.
>>740724603His moveset is perfect thoughbeit. He is one of the best aerial jugglers in the game with insane recovery. That is exactly how Sora fights in his games.
>>740724849It's gonna be Star Wars, Marvel, maybe encanto, and Zootopia.
>>740706852Secret boss material
What Disney worlds would revive the hype?>Atlantis>Treasure Planet>Wreck it Ralph>Zootopia>Incredibles
>>740720635suffering builds character
>>740707723Most kh "fans" don't keep up with half the shit they need to
>>740725032Oh, and probably Toy Story just because they have another one of those coming up and already have the assets.
>>740725171Atlantis and Treasure Planet were the dreams, but they just arent realistic to bring back with Disney's current focus and the work it would require to translate those characters to 3d and hand animate them again.
>>740687024This shits getting a little too real for dolan and gooby
>>740708826You're a disingenuous faggot
>>740707723Two tutorials just like in Kingdom Hearts 2, kino!
>>740725537What's his problem
>>740724603it looks even worse visually than KH3.the animation is actually a downgrade. it's so cheap, the way the key chains awkwardly spawn in looks like a low quality mod.and the keychains have horrible dithering artifacts all over them because UE5 is dogshit.the animation key-posing is fucking atrocious. I remember how cool every animation in KH2 was. Even reaction commands like 'Burst Frontier' Looked so good with that dodge and strike raid animation. We have fallen so far.
>>740712240We're long past that point
I had a random thought.What if Quadratum operated on sets of "teams", as in duos? One "agent" that does the fighting and one "handler". For example, Sora is the "agent" and Sterlitzia is his "handler".Similarly, Yozora would be the "agent" and Luxord his "handler". Maybe the same would go for Vali(?) and Sigurd(?). The former is shown wielding a keyblade and presumably fighting, the latter isn't. Agent and handler.I'm completely talking out of my ass, but that's the thought I had.
>>740725537UE5 dithering artifacts everywhere because the engine can't do transparency.
I hate UE5 so fucking much it's unreal. Whatever happened to companies making their own in house engine they optimize themselves? Capcom does it. Shit, what the fuck happened to the engine they made for FFXV?
>>740725032Literally no one on the planet knows what the fuck "Encanto" is. Also Moana is basically confirmed
>>740725996>Capcom does it.They better open source it.
>>740725996>Whatever happened to companies making their own in house engine they optimize themselves?that has been nothing but traumatic for square
I want to see Namines and Kairis panties again.
>>740683972So true.The game series is held back by:1. Convoluted clusterfuck of a story nobody can or wants to follow anymore except ultra-autists2. Sinking Disney reputation3. Japs continuing to nip-ify their old game characters that used to have far more Western vibesAlso the trailer for KH4 looks like shit too
>>740725205I'm happy to see revisits, it was fun seeing Sora get hyped for Olympus and Caribbean in 3. Especially if the Pixar worlds are as good as they were
This was supposed to be a return to form but it's unrecognizable. Magics gone.
>>740685174>>740686691I don't think anyone wants to work with modern Disney.
>>740725537niflheim airships
>>740683972>>740686691>>740686850>>740687103>>740689330AI assetsNo thanks
>>740721648Simple and clean for me.End credits of kh1 still gets me
>>740683972this visual style is awfulthey should cancel this
>>740725996dq12 restarted on luminous and ff17 will be on luminous, though its likely got a rebrand now or will just be called "in house square enix game engine"for example left is forspoken right is dq12, the grass assets in dq12 trailer are identical to the grass in the level editor tool internal to luminous that they used in forspoken, just saturation boosted
Someone explain to me what was wrong with KH3? Is it so bad that we know KH4 will be shit too? I only played like 10 hours of KH1.
Kingdom Hearts is so fucking unbelievably gay.Imagine playing this absolute cringe in your 40s.
>>740727061Felt like the actual plot was really backloaded. There were some cutscenes between worlds, but it didn’t feel like enough.
>>740727061All the story, and I mean ALL the story happens in the last 5% of the game.
>>740727061You played a really bad disney theme park for 90% of the game again and then the actual decade long plot threads start getting tied up within the last 5 hours.
>>740726937Get over it
>>740727261>>740727194>>740727325Is the actual gameplay just the same KH? If so it doesn't seem like the worst thing ever. Though it sounds like you can just watch a youtube video and skip playing it.
>>740727061>what was wrong with KH3?They went in a really lame direction with the combat + level design for BBS and DDD, 3 was just an extension of DDD in story and gameplay.So all of the worlds sucked to play, all the bosses sucked to fight, and you had frequent access to a "be invincible and win" button. They attempted to fix it with the DLC, adding superbosses and options for difficulty, but the level design and encounter design and general feel of the gameplay still stank. We know 4 will be bad because it's the same stank.
>>740727483Shit. I guess I might just end up watching it on youtube then. What a shame.
>>740727440It's fine, but it just isn't as good as kh2.But no game is as good as kh2 in my opinion
>>74072706180% of the game its filler in the worst sense. combat is floaty and boring , only the dlc battles are good everything is super rushed towards the end base game is a chore to replay
>>740709406>KH doesn't need Disney anymore.It's literally a Disney product.
>>740727632If you liked exploring the worlds in KH1 for secrets, you'll get that out of 3. The story is the worst part, so watching it on youtube isn't a great choice.
>>740686691A lot of Japanese people stopped going to Disney parks because it's where migrants congregate, so Disney has been associated with migrants recently and leaves a bad taste.
>>740726052It's big among their own circles. One of those things they claim is bigger than it is and try to push into other stuff.
>>740727632If you're only in it for the gameplay, stick with 1, com, and 2. recoded is also cool (and gets no fucking respect)
>>740683972Is this why Nomura handed the baton of main director to Hamaguchi from Rebirth on? He's a "creative director" but what does that actually entail on a day to day basis? YoshiP had to split his time on FF14 and 16 and we know how the latter turned out
>>740727983>It's big among their own circlesLiterally anything in this world is "big among their own circles" by definition. No one knows what the fuck Encanto is so it's not getting into the game
>>740727976based and true
>>740728145Gonna cut in and say CoM for gba. Ps2 version was such a painful thing to play it actually stopped my series playthrough back in the day for months. The cutscenes were good though.
>>740728241I don't think you understand what I'm saying. It's big in the same way Miles Morales was big... and that is, wasn't big at all but they kept forcing it into things because it was big to them. Dunno if Encanto will get in, but Disney has a weird boner for that movie.
>>740728156Obviously Nomura cares about his game more than FF remake.
>>740727061Cons: bad story pacingPros: best level design by farSubjective: combatSome people prefer how KH2 combat is more grounded and heavy feeling, KH3 combat is a lot more in the air feeling, but it isn’t any slower so some people don’t mind it. One thing people didn’t like in 3 are things called attractions which were things like Disney rides you could summon during combat, they ended up adding the ability to disable them a bit after launch though
>>740702492>>740712937kys that anon is right
>>740728156I assume the scope of the FF7 remake got much bigger than he expected when it got announced a decade ago so after the first game he wanted to shift priority to KH4
>>740727061The story sucked dick and it was balanced atrociously until it was patched. Now, that's not really too bad for a video game, but KH is maybe 80% story driven. So a KH game having a bad story is damning to say the least. Doubly so when it's the finale of 22 years of buildup and it fumbles everything.
>>740728956Moreso than it being a finale, KH3 was actually more like a transitional game to this new arc which Nomura has clearly had his eyes on for a long time KH2 is more conclusive, KH3 explains how you get from that ending to KH4, even though it’s the last game of the dark seeker arc
>>740727061https://youtu.be/7O_Bg4y2tQA?si=ipNhQ1H2X9AUlJF4most people who hate KH3 and continue to shitpost about it only played it at launch, never played the other mainline games besides 1 and 2, or are just simply shitposting. it has one of the best boss fights in gaming
>>740718947Just let them have their obnoxious retarded opinionsAlot of tards equate becoming a wagie as being an acceptable excuse for not having time to have hobbies or do new things
>>740729405This is my favorite fight in the series, my first time beating it is one of my most memorable bosses in a really long time
>>740727061They burned every plot thread they had accumulated. I think the story would have been better if BBS never happened at all simply because they set up the biggest story comeback in Square Enix's history and took 20 years just to do nothing with it.
I want the kefka heartless to show upin fact, every heartless boss should be a reference to an ff boss
>>740727440With Critical it's a bit better, you can turn off a mechanic that tends to be seen as either overpowered or just annoying. The abilities from the DLC are really nice, make combos much snappier.While people complain about floatiness, which I don't completely disagree with, you have new options like Guarding (and using items) in midair, as well as Aerial Step which lets you close distances quickly.
>>740728519>best level design by farReally? It's all wide open empty spaces. Caribbean had some nice secrets to explore but BH6 was a bunch of nothing, Tangled/Frozen/Monsters were all straight lines. The flowmotion bullshit killed any chance at platforming challenges. Floaty combat is fine in isolation, but I think it's the cause of a lack of tight spaces.
>>740729808I liked exploring in Toy Story and the Caribbean a lot. Not all the worlds are the same of course but KH1 and 3 are the only ones with any sort of focus on level design
>>740729494it is so fucking good. it took me a few days of playing and coming back to it to get mostly everything down. it really is an intense fight that videos dont even do justice, people have to try playing it themselves.it's also some incredible boss design that the osaka team has proved they can absolutely do. they're on a high pedestal now, and i absolutely have no doubt they will continue to show their expertise in boss fight designs in KH4.on a side note though the game is clearly not finished. the trailer was rough, but exciting for me. there will definitely be changes and i don't see this game releasing until late 2027 or early to mid 2028. almost feels like nintendo paid square enix for this trailer on their direct
>>740715263100%
>>740715790Kek what did he do?
>>740715954>Still crying about having to play the mobile spin offs Why are you still here? This has ALWAYS been a requirement of Kingdom Hearts>B-But it's different cause gachaNo it's fucking not. CoM was shit derivative combat too, fuck you
>>740716494>I grew up with the mainlinesSo the latter, you were never interested, fuck off
>>740730492I was shitting bricks when I realized it wasn’t just a linear phase fight and Yozora can just do his desperation move off rip, in general the Remind fights were a huge leap above anything else the Osaka team had ever done. I really didn’t like how the BBS super bosses were more of a check of having the right command deck by comparison
>>740716671Game was forever fucked when Osaka team took over KH. You're never getting a KH similar to 2 ever again. They simply incapable
