The type of people who created the original just don’t exist anymore. This is why everything now is so fucking soulless by comparison. Humanity has been destroyed and replaced with effigies.
wdym?aonuma and koizumi are still very much around
>>740689635Don't worry. Aonuma is still around. He will put in lots of his shitty ideas. At this point, I trust zoomers more than that senile old faggot
>>740689842>>740690045I’m talking about the concept artists and actual modelers and designers who largely go unnoticed but actually make the game bit by bit. Not the producers.
>>740690406OoT had a shockingly small team by modern standards, I'm pretty sure most if not all of them still work at nintendo
>>740689842not the same people
>>740690406Consumers are technocratic and think old ways of art can and should be optimized out of existence. Same thing happened to music and architecture.
>>740689635That’s art by Yusuke Nakano right? I think he still works at Nintendo.
>>740689635Honestly, I feel you.
>>740690667>not the same people???
>>740689635>human effigiesDARKSOULS 2 MENTION?!
>>740689635Absolutely mind broken you are.The same person who worked on the original presented it to you and pretended to be blind.
>>740691352lmao I was thinking about Dark Souls when I made this thread ironically.
The problem is that they are made by the same people, unironically. Not like the zoomniggers from japan are any better. Should've given the baton to the gen x.
>>740689635I still exist. The people and world around me are completely fucked, however.
>>740689635>The type of people who created the original just don’t exist anymoreYes they do, but the studio environment doesn't. Studios are now filled with bottom of the barrel "game dev 1001" college grads, because game development became increasingly accessible to the point that anyone can do it.
The problem with millennial game devs is that the experiences they want to share with the world today in game form are reimagined concepts of video games they played as kids, not non-video game experiences they had as kids that they want to capture in video game form, like the people who made the games those people grew up playing.
>>740689635this game will be erased from history once the speedrunners all die from old age or from trooning outremakes are cancer. if the people who claim they like these games actually played them the remakes wouldn't be necessary
>>740692051We are the first generation that can definitively say could have been raised in front of a TV and our most cherished memories are in some way digitally transmitted to us.
>>740689635you can literally download ship of harkinian and play oot in 4k 240 fps right now you whiny faggot
>>740692116Ocarina of Time has stinky 1997 cartridge-sized graphics and the decomp port didn't come up with an adequate way to bring over the 3DS graphics.
>>740691531>Absolutely mind broken you are.
>>740689635
>>740689842Aonumale didn't do shit besides the Water Temple.
>>740692116The speedrunners will never die out. It's like fighting games, every so often you hear about some young kid or teenager breaking records or making ground among the pros that have been at it for years simply because they're young and have decades of documented information at their finger tips to learn from.
>>740691187>>740689842Brain rot is a very real thingTheir very chemistry is subject to being twisted/changed over decades, values corroded or new ones replacing the old. The people you looked up to 20 years ago are not the same individuals standing before you today even if they wear their skinMiyamoto got hit the hardest
>>740692713Speedrunners are LITERALLY all gender-confused libtards.
>>740692694See >>740691187(he was basically in charge of dungeon design)>>740692790So the same people being involved is bad, and new blood being involved is bad, got it. Very insightful post.
>>740693015>(he was basically in charge of dungeon design)That's literally what I said dummy.
you're right but its up to you to do something about it.stop bitching on the internet and make video games, its never been easier to do so.I am taking my own advise, masterpiece coming in 2-3 years.(Also I do think there are some genuinely creative people still working at Nintendo, as opposed to some other AAA companies)
>>740692850Factually incorrect
>>740693167No, you said he only did the water temple when he was involved with dungeon design & progression throughout the entire game
We have no idea how many of the original team are involved in this though. Is it even a Nintendo EPD team working on it? Or are some merely supervising and some second party is doing it.
>>740693301One or the other, at least.
>>740692051>millennial game devs out of nowhere>despite this being a Nintendo gameYou were raped by millennials
>>740693520It'll either be EPD or EPD/Monolithsoft
>>740693015>So the same people being involved is badYes because it's proof they're creatively bankrupt hacks and just rehashing old glories>new blood being involved is badYes because it shows they have no talent to begin with and are riding the coattails of geniuses that came before themRemakes are just BAD. Just make new games.
>>740693969It's not a remake, it's a reimagining
>>740694087It's not a reimagining, it's a revival
>>740694130It's not a revival, it's a rebirth
>>740694234it's not a rebirth, it's a revelation
>>740694330It's not a revelation, it's a revolution
>>740694390It's not a revolution, it's Rick Astley. Mah boi, this peace is what all true warriors strive for.
>>740689635>The type of people who created the original just don’t exist anymore.Not just this, but the type of people vital to the reception of this sort of media do not exist as any part of the system, from top to bottom. A game like Ocarina of Time could never happen nowadays. This remake is going to be a humiliation ritual of hte highest accord for those of us who are sentient and possible of contiguous thought.
>>740693520Clearly Monolith are more involved than 60+ year olds.
>>740694330It's not a revelation, it's a refund
>>740689635They're still there but this:>>740690770Disney keeps making live action remakes and they make a profit because people think: the more realistic, the better the graphics are. The only things preventing every game ever from having realistic "HIRE THIS MAN" graphics were technological constraints and budget, but thankfully for the average consumer, we can finally abandon stylization and kiddie cartoony crap in 2026. It sounds retarded to you but you're not the target audience.
I'm retardedWhen people say they 'HIRED THAT MAN' is it just a meme or is there a specific 'man' the're referring to?
>>740695283newbab...
>>740695283https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nintendo-hire-this-man
>>740689635>hourly NDS thread
>>740693969But what if it's good? The remake for resident evil on the gamecube was excellent because the same main dev was involved. It's not the exact same game but it's very much worth playing.
>>740696328Only six years passed between RE1 and REmake, that's a relatively minor amount of time and brainrot didn't set in yet
>>740691187not the same people
>>740696628>aonuma and koizumi are not the same people as aonuma and koizumiwhat did anon mean by this?
>>740689635Demoralization campaign
>>740689635Didn't read. CryZenX won.
>>740693937millenials should be stabbed, raped and killed
>>740696464I liked Bananza quite a lot and I've been around for a long time. Im fully confident they aren't half assing ocarina of time of all things.
>>740697085good goy, repeat your programming
>>740689635nintendo still has the same people working retard. they have probably the longest time serving employees in the industry
>>740690406OOT was less than 28 years ago. Its pretty common for game devs to keep working on a company for 28 years, even more when it's Nintendo, which is known for keeping their own devs. DESU its like Metallica doing albums in the 80s and doing albums in 2020s, that would probably be a better comparison.
>>740697085ugly parrot
The artist is Yusuke Nakano. He still works at Nintendo, but he hasn't been credited on a Zelda game since Triforce Heroes (he's not responsible for the Toon Link style though, they probably just assigned him to that game). As someone who's familiar with Nintendo's artists, it's blatantly obvious that this and the Star Fox remake are either outsourced or AI generated, because it looks nothing like the styles of anyone on their art teams.
>>740700136Nintendo is not outsourcing their golden goose Zelda OOT remake. Thats completely illogical.And you are not familiar with all of Nintendo's artists, what kind of bullshit are you trying to perpetrate
>>740700753they outsourced BOTW to Monolith
>>740700753They outsourced the first OoT remake. They outsourced the Link's Awakening remake.
>>740689635Mass media is not presenting you the work of inspired and creative people so you conclude they must just not exist anymore, like they were a gene that was eradicated. An argument purely from feelings and magical thinking, in fact it's a type of liberal pessimism designed to preclude any thought of changing or even blaming the system.It's easier for you to imagine humanity has been literally destroyed than to entertain that it might just be unfairly suppressed or denied the opportunity to express itself.
>>740697085I get it, millenials are fucking soi niggers through and through, but zoomers are even worse. That says a lot about you
>>740689635>Watch trailer>Nintendo unironically hired this manLOL
>>740689635The type of people still exist. It’s just that corporations only fund what they consider to be “safe”
>>740690045Can't wait for big eyeball to demonstrate every weakness and puzzle solution!!
>>740689635OoT was never good and nothing anyone would ever make would impress you because you're not 8. It'll be a fine remake with actual gameplay and mechanics and exploration and you'll pretend it's shit because it's not the braindead game you played when you were 8 and you've convinced yourself time wasting piss easy "puzzles" nd simplistic combat and bad story telling is soul.
>>740689635>The type of people who created the original just don’t exist anymore.but miyamoto is still there and kicking
>>740703581>t. born in 2008
>>740703258I completely forgot about the giant eyeballs added to every Majora boss. Holy crap modern devs just do not have faith in the player to figure out things for themselves
>>740703714RIP Miyamoto-san. It's so sad he died of ligma.
>>740703581>OoT was never goodYou had many ways to start that post but you chose poorly.
>>740689635As someone that tried OoT for the first time last year and just didn’t think it’s stood the test of time without nostalgia to carry it, I am fucking stoked to have a modern Zelda game to play.Ocarina of Time was one of the first 3D action-adventure titles ever released, and as such it did not benefit from having any prior art to base core gameplay features on. Every game in the intervening 18 years has iterated on and refined what does and does not work when it comes to things like character movement and camera control. Hot damn, does that game feel like ass to play next to modern games that have figured out things like “the player should control the camera” and “common actions should be on easy buttons”.
>>740703714Wasn't he just an idea guy that made other people do all the work?
>>740703883>>740703987Born in 1990, started playing games in 1994, actually played on multiple consoles, PC and at arcades during the 90s. Only people were limited to an N64 and didn't really play other games thought it was special. Stay mad.
>>740703581It's going to be the same game with a different coat of paint
>>740703581Yeah nice generic broad opinion ugly crackerOOT is based and your shit taste will never change that
>>740689635The people who made Zelda 1 actually went outside, explored caves, and countryside ruins.The people who make Zelda now played Zelda.
>>740700753They outsourced the entire story of ToTK to a low budget phone game studio
>>740704017Skill issue the game holds up tremendously
>>740704278lol brown
>>740689842So is Cory Barlog. They aren't the same people anymore.
>>740704413It's a shillbot. You can tell because they accidentally turned on redditspeak module for 4chan
>>740704432Your entire race has been coal burned
Damn ocarine of time is hitting you hard op, i'm sure youre gonna have fun playing kh4 or some shit
>>740692790I get what you're saying
>>740704215and yet it's widely considered one of the best games ever made, unless you want to be a contrarian fag. Stay mad.
>>740697984>>740700136And for some reason all they can do is pump out soulless slop, they all lost their touch
>>740692613I would stroke his hair.Then do something less wholesome.
>>740704952Atleast 3 of those games are better now than they we're on the past tho
>>740690406I actually follow the oot concept artist on twitter. He's active.
>>740701970I hate this vague posting style.
>>740705114We're talking about art retard, focus
They should have went with hyrule warriors artstyle
>>740689635DESU the graphics in Ocarina of Time didn't have that much soul. Even the concept art is pretty bland.
>>740705221Same answer? Why are you guys so obsessed with mediocre artstyle
Reminder that OoT Link has the saddest life of any Link, to the point that his spirit is unfulfilled even in death come TP.
>>740705387Schizo?
>>740705531Nah, actually i known about art
>>740705603Definite schizo
>>740705412the zelda timeline isn't realtwilight princess is an alternate telling not a sequel
>>740705134I gotta follow him too, his concept art gave us the most blessed fish girl of our age
>>740705876Im playing TP for the first time right now and the old sword stalfos dude is 1000000% link from ocarina, FFS the howling stones have the songs from OOT and MM its pretty fuckin blatant.
>>740689635It’s the same thing you’ve just seen it before.
>>740705134@?
>>740705876Then why do you hear Malon’s singing at Hyrule Field at night in TP? Clearly that’s her spirit.
>>740706280Yeah please
>>740704832And? Journalists and casuals have never mattered.
>>740706224His animations during the swordsman trainings are also very clearly OoT Link’s as well.
>>740689635>this is soul according to nostalgiafags>literal color byte-swapped same tunics>wood faeries that don't know how to use technology making straw clothes is bad
>>740689842Koizumi hasn't been allowed to touch a real Zelda title since 2002.>HacknumaWas begging to be retired from Zelda until he found his legacy reputation in BoTW, even then he lets Fujibayashi make all the design choices.
>>740689635everyone got older and grew up, maybe consider trying that yourself. adapting to change is a valuable evolutionary characteristic.
>>740700753They already outsourced it once to Grezzo you dumbshit.
Anon the N64 version still exists, and is perfected by the recompilation, and even then still being improved on.There is nothing that Nintendo can do to improve on that, so they might as well leave it alone. Let them give the game another shot and see if they can top it.
>>740713909Man I wish you fucking retards knew the fucking difference between a decompilation, a recompilation, and a pc port instead of parroting each term randomly and completely fucking wrong.
>>740714149I thought it was decompiled, then recompiled.Please correct me if I'm wrong because I thought recompilation was the correct term.
>>740712943It is tho
