>rekindles you're love for vidya
MiSTer fags pay hundreds of dollars for worse emulation than what you could get on a ThinkPad.
>magic box the size of a soda can that plays all those retro classics with perfect hardware accuracy>identical video latency and audio latency to original hardware>supports OEM controllers or any USB controller in existence with zero additional lag>works perfectly and flawlessly headache-free on either CRT or 4k TV with zero additional lag>one shared hardware configuration + update_all script means you never have to worry about issues specific to your setup, and never have to tinker with specific builds or settings. Just run update_all script and it just works perfectly for everyone>all this prebuilt and plug and play for under $200>even supports RetroAchievementsand yet /v/ somehow finds a way to hate it
>>740698005>MiSTer's NES core is the only emulator in existence with 128/128 passes on the extremely rigorous AccuracyCoin>MiSTer's MD core gets one fail on the single most intensive MD test rom in existence, compared to 3-5 fails depending on version with the most accurate software emulators, BlastEm and Nuked>MiSTer's GBA core is one of only a couple emulators in existence that passes AGS Aging Cartridge (Nintendo's own internal test for their hardware) with 100% accuracy >MiSTer's NEOGEO core is cycle accurate using fucking decaps of original hardware and far better than MAME and FinalBurn>MiSTer's Saturn core has 100% passed literally every test that even exists for the Saturn, blowing away software emulation >MiSTer's latest N64 core build passes all 3667 out of 3667 tests in the most intensive test rom to date. It was already far more accurate than software emus, and is now just running circles around them>MiSTer's PSX core is cycle accurate and has zero compatibility issues compared to the dozens of Duckstation and MednafenSeethe emutranny
>>740698324>Mednafen slanderCope wall of text immediately disregarded
or i could play on og hardware on a crt lmao
>>740697712Sorry wrong pic
>>740698324>muh accuracyOnly speed runner troons care about thisYou will never be able to escape mockery of your overpriced garbage devices by people who know better.
>>740699813I use my mister on a CRT instead of my og hardware because it's more convenient. I want to sell everything it supports and regain my space
>>740698324I love my Mister because of how easy it is to hook up to CRT tvs/monitors, and with excellent video output (with the right I/O board), but I don't really give a fuck about the accuracy. If I don't notice, it's accurate enough.
>>740700412>>740699813>perfect accuracy>perfect timing>perfect input latency>perfect audio latency>completely identical to original hardware except with optional additional QoL and features>seamless, lagless support for everything from CRT to 4k TV>supports OEM controllers laglessly or any USB controller in existence with no additional lag (beyond the controller's inherent lag obviously)There is literally no reason to own OG hardware for anything pre-gen 6 when MiSTer exists. It's the exact same experience but cheaper, more convenient, taking up less space, support for any controller or TV, and with additional optional features and QoL
>>740698092>identical video latency and audio latency to original hardware>supports OEM controllers or any USB controller in existence with zero additional lag>works perfectly and flawlessly headache-free on either CRT or 4k TV with zero additional lagThe first contradicts the other two. Either it doesn't have accurate full chain latency and it's just another shitty emulator, or it doesn't have zero additional IO lag. Lots of software emulator solutions already have lower full chain latency than real hardware.>>740698324No use case for the games people actually play. Syncing with other emulators is convoluted for no reason. Even if it's $FREE it's not worth it. A phone does the same job just as well.
>>740701062Yeah yeah nice sales pitch, didn't read it, shan't be buying your overpriced chinkshit.
>>740701232MiSTer with OEM controllers through SNAC has input lag completely identical down to the nanosecond with original hardware.MiSTer with USB controller has only as much additional input lag as that controller has, for example <2ms for DualSense. MiSTer has the lowest possible input latency for these controllers and supports 1000Hz polling (making it the best resource for actually testing USB input latency btw https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency )>Lots of software emulator solutions already have lower full chain latency than real hardwareUsing hacky methods like run-ahead, inconsistent input latency, and inaccurate timing>Syncing with other emulators is convoluted for no reason.What the fuck does this even mean? Syncing what? >A phone does the same job just as well.Annnnd you're a brown retard confirmed. Emulating on phone add a SHIT TON of additional input and most of the emulators are far less accurate than PC software emulators, let alone the gold standard of MiSTer cores (which are identical to original hardware)
This is why anti-MiSTer fags are butthurt. It's sold out and they missed their chance. There is only one MiSTer Pi on ebay and it's going for $450 kek
>>740697712For me, it's the Rpi4
>>740697712My XSS does the same plus current games
>spams your board with advertisements
>>740702409You don't even want to know how much I spent on mine in 2023. For me it was genuinely worth every penny, I use it practically every day. Used it so much the cheap fan died and I replaced it with a little Noctua.
i'm confused about the purpose of thiscan't you just buy a 50 bucks cyclone V devkit
I have one but in superstation one form and it is indeed kino. The games just feel perfect and more comfy on a CRT
If I order a superstation one now, when will I get it
>>740704123I ordered one 1.5 years ago and still haven't received mine
>>740697712What are you playing though? Are they games you’ve already played dozens of times?
>>740697712I'll never buy your product solely based on how fucking atrocious your shilling is on here. I don't know the quality, capacity, or price, and I'll never bother to learn more thanks to your obnoxious guerilla tactics.
>>740704475That particular pre-built in the OP isn't even for sale anymore.
>>740704475>I'm going to eat shit to spite you, HAH!
>>740698324>PS2 emulation is pretty much impossible on misterPhone emulation wins again
>>740704729PC emulation of PS2 is still inaccurate, laggy dogshit even in software modeYou are better off with original hardware
>>740704893yup, ps2 still best on the real thing + crt.
>>740704475More companies need to hear this. Only reason I didn't E33 was because of the constant shilling here. I will never play it. ANd that isn't because I think the game looks bad. I think I would actually have a lot of fun playing it. But I'm not going to give people I hate an incentive to keep being annoying, so yeah. Never gonna play it. Not now, not ever.
>>740700412>dude its worse emulation>ummm..... actually who cares about accuracy
I'm just gonna emulate for free on my PC/phone>lmao software emulation sour grapes broke bitch MiSTER™ is frame perfect cycle perfect electron perfect; you don't know what you're missingOkay I'll just play OG hardware>you're WASTING your money
>>740698005wrong
>>740697712I’m not entirely sure how this works, excuse me if I sound retarded. Do you download emulators and roms on to this thing or does it come preloaded with a bunch of shit?
>>740708029Some prebuilts might come preloaded but usually it just comes with a microSD and you flash mr fusion onto it, then add the update_all script, and that's really all you need. You just run the update_all script right from the MiSTer and it automatically updates gives you all the core updates, bios files, system files, arcade games, etc. The only thing you need to do is drop your game roms into the appropriate foldersIt used to be really complicated but they've made it almost plug and play at this point
My opinion of these things is they're kind of overrated unless you have a JAMMA cab in which case they're a fucking godsend
>>740705772It's worse because it takes another completely unnecessary and inconvenient device.
>>740709232that doesn't make sense as MiSTer's arcade support is fairly limited
ill just play on emulator thank you>b-but muh input lagdont give a shit, ill play the game once and then never again.
I can already mod my own TVs to SCART and make my own VGA to SCART cables and have much better emulation accuracy from PCso fuck off with your wanna be shitty ass overpriced emulation box
>>740709493If you're playing with modern systems and displays you don't get that much from a mister because we have a million ways to get really strong emulation with no input lag and good monitor syncing nowadays.Trying to get emulation running on a CRT through JAMMA is a fucking nightmare and you're always going to have to choose between screen tearing and input lag. With a mistercade it just works>MiSTer's arcade support is fairly limitedI don't know what you're talking about
>>740709797yeah dude I love input lag
>>740710151>straight RGB on CRT>input laglmao you retards
>>740710407It's the PC part that causes it
>>740709867>because we have a million ways to get really strong emulation with no input lag and good monitor syncing nowadaysnot true at all. There is no option out there with accuracy, input latency, and audio latency of MiSTer or even close really. >Trying to get emulation running on a CRT through JAMMAcan't you just use a retrotink 4k for downscaling to a CRT from MAME? Or just use groovy mame? Or groovy mister? >I don't know what you're talking aboutMiSTer doesn't have anywhere near the compatibility of something like MAME or FB Neo
>>740697712I'm convinced only euro PAL SHART RGBfags care about this thingHalf of the cores look really fucked up when using S-Video on an NTSC tv
>>740709484>its worse because.... uuhhhh its haaard
i love my MISTER but i don't use it enough its just collecting dustat the end of the day, i'll just emulate on OLED steam deck. portability/convenience beats all.
>>740709797>much better emulation accuracynigga the NEO GEO MiSTer core is literally the most accurate hardware recreation in existence made from extensive and meticulous decapping efforts that is completely identical and indistinguishable from original hardware in every way, include audio and video latency. You are a total fucking retard lmao
>>740697712laptop is better
>>740710779I just use my MiSTer on my big 4k OLED. Modern TVs are within just a few ms input lag of CRTs anyways.
>>740710554>not true at all. There is no option out there with accuracy, input latency, and audio latency of MiSTer or even close really.FBNeo lets you get lower input lag than PCB on a lot of games, and gsync/freesync solves the other problem. I think FPGA stuff is great but you need a good reason to be using it>can't you just use a retrotink 4k for downscaling to a CRT from MAME? Or just use groovy mame? Or groovy mister? Read the other half of the sentence>MiSTer doesn't have anywhere near the compatibility of something like MAME or FB NeoI see, well pretty much all of the important stuff is there. Once we get a PGM core I'll have literally everything I care about but depending on who you are and what you're after it might be a dealbreaker
>>740698324I can't cloud save and resume a game on my phone that I was playing earlier on my desktop, or play on different desktop devices. I'd have to move save data around manually and there is no portable mister either. You can't replicate the most important aspect of a Gameboy - portability, faggot. Even back then, I could play Pokemon Emerald on my GameCube Game Boy Player than pop that shit in my SP or DS Lite when I needed to go. Mister doesn't have a portable ecosystem.The only small benefit is that input latency is lower, and hardware peripheral support is more intricate, such as with lightguns and CRTs (individually and combined). Emulation is cool because I can build my Gun4ir, an arcade machine board, and whatever peripherals I want, play my games with dif emulator controller profiles, and save all that shit to the cloud when I want to play with a controller on the go. It just sucks to set up the ecosystem, but I can play anything, anywhere.
>>740697712>plays all your childhood games on the run for under a 100 bucks
>>740710151Dickheads who have never held a soldering iron or crimpers in their life trying to wade into an electronics argument like they know shit lol
>>740698005A HamGeek or QMTech Mister is $160 - $170 shipped. I don't know why they're not more popular, people are creaming themselves over the Neo-Geo AES+ for $250 when they could be playing all the games right now for free on the same FPGA core its going to have burned into its ASIC chips.
>Dickheads who have never held a soldering iron or crimpers in their life trying to wade into an electronics argument like they know shit lol
>>740711091>Once we get a PGM corehttps://github.com/wickerwaka/Arcade-IGSPGM_MiSTer/tree/main/releasesIt's not done yet, but you can check it out right now.
>>740711346I repair arcade PCBsYour PC with video converters is not going to match hardware emulation with native CRT signal output
>>740711091>FBNeo lets you get lower input lag than PCB on a lot of games, and gsync/freesync solves the other problem. I think FPGA stuff is great but you need a good reason to be using itFB Neo is far less accurate than MiSTer, has worse audio/video sync, and requires hacky run-ahead (that massively increases input latency variance) to get lower raw input lag than OG hardware/MiSTer + CRT. FreeSync/GSync adds additional input latency, flickering on OLED, and has much greater input lag variance. >but you need a good reason to be using itNo the fuck you don't. It's the pure original hardware experience with no compromises and no questions of accuracy or latency. >I see, well pretty much all of the important stuff is there. Once we get a PGM core I'll have literally everything I care about but depending on who you are and what you're after it might be a dealbreakerI haven't checked it in a bit, but last I checked it didn't even have Konami beat em ups or any later arcade titles. It's basically just like 80s shit and Capcom
>>740709797>dvi adapterlel
I have the MiSTer in OP and I love it but the fucking USB hub just randomly disconnects. It seems to mostly happen in menus though, almost never in games.Also for some fucking reason, I have like 4 dualsense controllers and only one actually connects to it, all the others don't even show the light when connected. Also DualSense has some weird behavior where the MD core has the inputs wonky where circle is dpad down or some shit. I mean you can just rebind it, but it's really odd that it's only that core and only with a DualSense.
>>740711541That's actually very cool. How do you source replacement components? Is it all Frankensteined shit at this point for ICs or can you hop on Digikey in small doses
>>740701946>Using hacky methods like run-ahead, inconsistent input latency, and inaccurate timingIn most cases simple frame delay and a fast CPU is enough. Certainly for most gen 5 and previous.>Emulating on phone add a SHIT TON of additional input>most of the emulators are far less accurate than PC software emulator10 years ago maybe. Now 5yo flagships run the same emulators without speed hacks.>What the fuck does this even mean? Syncing what?Syncing save games between mobile and PC. It's very straightforward for everything but MiSTer.Traditional hardware has kept bringing real user facing improvements and MiSTer hasn't. Unless they pull a good PS2 core out of their ass they don't have a compelling use case except maybe Saturn, and honestly at that point just buy a real Saturn.
>>740712063The USB hub connector is the bane of my existence. It's probably an issue with the DE10-Nano itself.
>>740697712I love that it exists but it's too expensive for me. I don't even have a CRT. Emulators are good enough for me.
>>740711616>FB Neo is far less accurate than MiSTer, has worse audio/video sync, and requires hacky run-ahead (that massively increases input latency variance) to get lower raw input lag than OG hardware/MiSTer + CRT. FreeSync/GSync adds additional input latency, flickering on OLED, and has much greater input lag variance.Anon FBNeo lets you play battle garegga with one frame of input lag. That's better than PCB. I don't understand why you're arguing with me, I'm pro-mister here, I'm just saying that if you're someone who's gonna be playing your stuff sitting at your computer desk on the same kinds of monitors your PC is already on you probably don't actually need a mister. Where FPGA really shines is native CRT setups or cabinets and niche console homebrew/speedrun type shit where 100% cycle accuracy really matters.>>740712097A lot of it is standardized ICs that are still in production, but some stuff has reproductions being made like that seibu audio module that always fails on Raiden II boards. Other than that it's mostly just stuff like reflowing solder joints, replacing capacitors and batteries, jumping damaged PCB traces, things like that. I haven't come across anything where it's just an out of production IC I need to frankenstein from a donor board but I do know that's a thing you sometimes have to do
>get MiSTer laggy to test new TV>fiddle with settings and notice it seems to be causing small changes in latency numbers>finally realize BRIGHTNESS is what is causing the difference>lowest brightness vs. max brightness is literally like 25ms differenceI was wondering why the numbers seemed so terrible on old TVs, I guess it's because they are so dark. Also, local dimming seems to massively jack the number up despite having zero impact on latency.It seems like high framerate slow-mo recording of button-to-pixel is king when it comes to testing input latency. Also interestingly CRTs (or at least mine) only take 14ms to render a full frame (very bottom of the screen), I guess the rest of the time is vblank. I wish all TVs would incorporate the OLED "boost" feature where it renders 60Hz container at 120Hz effectively making the frame draw faster, potentially beating CRT (it doesn't, but it still should be possible). Still worse motion clarity though.
>>740712818Based, I hate these shill threads but there's always some cool hardwareheads hanging around. I need to get into PCB repair.
>start zsnes.exe>play game>somehow this makes emutrannies gigamadI don't get it but stay buttburt
>>740712038>he doesnt know that DVI-I outputs both digital and analog signals at the same timeshut up you zoomer fuck
>>740713065Thanks anonI'm still fairly new to it all and for some of this stuff I need to borrow friends' fancier tools and get a hand with it, but you learn a lot every time you fix something and you'd be surprised how many repairs end up needing nothing more than a multimeter and a soldering iron. The point being, it's definitely something anyone can pick up and start learning. I'm at the point where I'd like to get a rom programmer and an oscilloscope and better stuff to do surface mount soldering so I can do absolutely everything solo, but it's all a pretty big investment
>>740713381I have literally never seen FPGAfags get mad about people using emulators, but I constantly see emufags getting mad about people using FPGA. The arguments in these threads are literally ALWAYS started by emulatorfags
>>740712818Show me the the real-world test. Battle Garegga on PCB with CRT has 3-4 (variable) frames of input lag. Run-ahead causes greater input latency variance (even worse than raw latency), causes issues with audio sync, and things like shmupMAME break graphics in many games due to the hacks it uses to reduce latency beyond original hardware. >Where FPGA really shines is native CRT setups or cabinets and niche console homebrew/speedrun type shit where 100% cycle accuracy really matters.No, fuck you dumbass. You don't need some extremely niche usecase to benefit from MiSTer. Something can appeal to hardcore enthusiasts without ONLY being for hardcore enthusiasts, you fucking retard. >I want original hardware>I want something more accurate than PC emulation>I want something cheaper than PC emulation>I want something more portable than PC emulation>I want something easier and more seamless with CRTs than PC emulation>I want something that doesn't add additional V-Sync latency with 60Hz displays>I want a console-like experience with one consistent architecture where I have to run one simple script and have the identical, perfect accurate experience as everyone else and never have to worry about hardware/driver issues or OS issuesANY AND EVERY SINGLE ONE of those situations would benefit from MiSTer. Basically the only situation in which wouldn't benefit from MiSTer is someone who doesn't give two shits about accuracy or latency at all and just wants the cheapest/most convenient slop, or someone who absolutely needs the certain additional QoL features that software emulators have over MiSTer and is willing to compromise on MiSTer's advantages to get that.
>>740713990>I paid hundreds of dollars for an emulation box>i can do the same with PC>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING REEEEEEE
>>740713849I've seen some wicked hand soldering on some insanely dense/low pitch pinouts with just good flux applications and a steady touch, but it is definitely an art to get that delicate touch.
Who actually cares about perfect emulation? When does it actually matter?
>>740714248>>i can do the same with PCExcept... you literally can't though? What part do you understand? Do you also think troons are real women?OG hardware is like a biological femaleMiSTer FPGA is like if we somehow could create a perfect 1:1 recreation of a biological female down to the molecular level that looks, sounds, feels, smells, tastes, thinks, and acts completely identical in every way. Emulation is like injecting hormones, slathering on makeup, and putting a dress on a man and calling it a biological female.OG hardware and MiSTer FPGA are in a league of their own. They are the real deal. Your shitty PC or phone emulation is not. Why can't you accept that?
>>740714190Lmao, imagine melting down so hard that people don't want to buy your garbage that you end up coming off more desperate and pathetic than a used car salesmen.
>>740714190>Show me the the real-world test.It's on shmuparch, I think electric underground has input lag test videos with the LED sensor setup. Runahead is fine as long as you don't set it higher than it needs to be.You can also match the 3-4 frames of PCB on basic PC emulation without having to do all this bullshit, my point is just that "I want minimal input lag" in a bubble isn't really a reason to spring for a mister. In contrast to that though, I think "I want minimal input lag on a CRT with no screen tearing or jitter" is the single best selling point for a mister.>ANY AND EVERY SINGLE ONE of those situations would benefit from MiSTer. That big list of wants are something that the vast majority of people don't care about. For the ones who do, yeah, FPGA is for them.You actually just agree with me here but don't seem to realize it for some reason
This is one of those things that you have to own to "get" it. Yes you can emulate on pc but it feels like shit and you'll probably just alt tab to 4chan or youtube
>>740697712This device is demonstrably a rip off.https://youtu.be/69fUAa_hAWoMany games on it are wildly inaccurate.
>>740714798Get help for your tranny obsession, jesus christ
>>740714850>3 years agoLeast retarded tranny.
>>740714986Bruh they haven't fixed none of that shit and they never will, it's snake oil
>>740714829Electric Underground shoots his videos in 60fps with his cellphone, they are incredibly inaccurate junk just meant for a very rough approximation. You can't even use run-ahead above 2 frames for Battle Garegga as you set run-ahead to X-1 frames where X is the lowest possible inherent input lag in frames. Plus run-ahead causes timing issues, audio issues, and causes input lag variance (more important than raw timing btw) to be significantly higher. Record with 240fps+ that has been confirmed as consistent timing with a frame pacer, take 20+ samples, then show me.
>>740713990FPGA emulation is like the Juicero. That's overly harsh, but 95% of people emulating are just not going to give a shit about hardware perfect when the alternative can be had for free on a device most people already own IF the software emulation is close (which by and large, it is). The remaining enthusiast market is going to lean heavily toward original hardware. Sure there's some people who want the benefits of hardware emulation and low cost (relative to physical collections), but it's a niche of a niche.
>>740714248Yeah that guy you made up in your head sure looks stupid huh
>>740698092>perfect hardware accuracyYeah after almost 40 years of development I imagine snes and genesis emulation is pretty good by now.
>>740714850That video is 3 years old (MiSTer has made leaps and bounds of improvements since then in every core) and the OP of the video himself literally admits (even back then on such an early build) that it feels extremely close to PCB, better than MAME, and that the colors are only off due to his recording setup.
>>740715193>Electric Underground shoots his videos in 60fps with his cellphone,The only impact that could have is making the numbers worse, it's not going to make the camera predict the future. The actual numbers could only be better than what the tests show
>>740714850What is even wrong with it that this video is supposed to be showing?
>>740697712Why would I need this box when my pc or my phone can do effectively the same thing? Those chink android emulators are cheaper, can emulate more systems and are portable. Hell, a portable PC can do all that plus access my PC games on the go.What's the point of this?
>>740715194That's not really a reasonable comparison because there is literally nobody that the juicero is ideal for, there is nothing it offers for anyone in any context
>>740715484The tachyons in the cellphone are messing with the FPGA's x-3 warp input collector and causing the miscalibration to misreport due to the phototonics of the reaction. If it's not being recorded, it's identical.
>>740704584NTA, but what's the fucking point of this thread, then?
>>740715484That's not how it works, and 60fps cell phone cameras don't even have consistent pacing between frames. They're just junk beyond very vague approximations (that's what I used before getting a proper setup, that's why I know)You still won't even post the test in question though.
>>740715405>that it feels extremely close to PCB, better than MAMEIn the comments he begrudgingly admits there is significant slowdown and then a year later he posts a clear of garegga on the m2 port, not mister. Don't use shmups for your retarded agenda, you're not playing anything. Stop trying to bring retro collector cancer fomo into shmups.
>>740715703If you actually want to play these games properly as they are meant to be played with proper timing, proper accuracy, and without a metric shit ton of extra video latency and audio latency?Like, cmon, think you fucking retard.
>>740715590The game is running like 10% slower on mister.
>>740715932But those are complete non-issues.
>>740715905MiSTer are one of the top choices for speedrunners and shmup/arcade enthusiasts though. The only disadvantage and reason why shmuptroons don't use them is the lack of save states and rewinds. They spam those constantly while practicing because it's just all autistic memorization and recital. Post clears shitter.
>>740715905Does M2 pay you to shill their ports at every opportunity? Just saying finding an old incomplete version of a core to misrepresent its quality, then conveniently mentioning a product for sale is more than a little shill like.
>>740716162>The only disadvantage and reason why shmuptroons don't use them is the lack of save states and rewindsBut plenty of official ports don't have those. People just practice in mame then clear on the official port.
>>740716103Maybe if all you play is VNs and turn-based JRPGs. But for any game that requires any bit of reaction time or timing, you absolutely don't want shitty PC or especially phone emulation.
>>740715809>he thinks cell phone cameras can predict the futurewowzers
>>740716312Nah, I've played Battletoads on a phone. It's completely fine.
>>740716302I record my clears on emulator, I don't have any way to record on MiSTer as I don't have a capture card. I know Japanese players tend to be extremist moralfags who only record clears on official releases, even if they're barebones overpriced inaccurate dogshit. Some play on MAME, but there seems to be a very negative connotation with emulation in general over there, especially for clears. Regardless, MiSTer offers the best experience identical to original hardware, unless you are an autist who is spamming rewind and save states every 5 seconds.
>>740716210This sounds like projection on your end, these threads are extremely repetitive, inorganic, and cyclical. How many hundreds of times have you made this thread? If you're the kind of person who collects meme hardware like this, you are dead to me. I cannot imagine anything more uncool.
>>740716602>I cannot imagine anything more uncool.Try imagining yourself as a fat faggot tranny who shills for M2 every day of your pathetic life. Oh wait.
>>740715905>and then a year later he posts a clear of garegga on the m2 port, not mister.Different use cases. The idea that this would be some sort of admission that the mister sucks is next level retarded
>>740716551>played>I spammed rewind every 2 second and even made it to the second stage before rage quitting, HAH!Yeah bro, you sure showed me. >>740716602>collectsAre you fucking retarded? MiSTer is the opposite of collectionfagging. It's hundreds of consoles and computers and arcade hardware and every single game on them all in one tiny little box. You don't "collect" the hardware, there isn't a MiSTer for every platform and a new release every year, and all these little add-ons. No, it's just one box you can buy pre-built or make yourself and then you're good to go. Man, you're fucking stupid.
>>740716748How is M2 bad? Those are the de facto definitive way to play those games, and they use the funds to make new games and arranges.
>>740716893de facto way would be OG hardware/MiSTer (same thing)M2 makes good ports but they're overpriced and most of the extra features/modes are just filler
>>740715706It's an unfair comparison. MiSTER is not a scam, but it is exceedingly niche. If your "market" competition is free and physical collectors who will pay out the ass, you have to distinguish yourself. Most people software emulating are not going to give two shits about latency/audio/graphical issues so long as it's not egregious. Most collectors are not going to care about a hardware solution that has no physical/memorabilia value. It's an inverse Goldilocks
>>740716864>Are you fucking retarded? MiSTer is the opposite of collectionfaggingNo it's not, the retro scene is full of weird hardware fomo like this. You go to /vr/ and the most active threads are the chink handheld threads, they don't even play games there, just post title screens on their chinkinese devices. This is exactly what killed retro. You own a mister? You're dead to me. Simple as.
>>740717002>M2 makes good ports but they're overpricedHow the fuck are they overpriced? These are games you can spend 500 hours on for $35. Not everyone is a retro collector fag that plays a game for 10 minutes on their meme device then takes a picture of their CRT to post on twitter. M2 ports are designed for people who want to play the games. For real.
>>740697712>It's hardware accurate!>what does that mean?>uhhhhhHow do you respond?
>>740717338Please stop replying to baitIt's clearly the same autist who's always shitting up shmup threads
>>740716893It's simple; he can't afford it. I know plenty of people in specific steam groups who gripe about that shit as well but are tethered to an ancient toaster from early 2010's that doesn't include M2 slots and its usually a turd worlder, a neet, or both.
>>740717181Retarded ass tranny. This is not some android-based/linux-based chinkheld, nor does it even have a screen. It's hardware level recreation box completely identical to original hardware that allows you to play seamlessly and laglessly with any controller including OEM on any TV seamlessly and laglessly, whether CRT or 4k.
>>740717362"Please fuck my ass"
>>740705054As a crtfag, hell no, PS2 still looks like shit, not to mention a lot of games run horribly.
>>740710980that's my exact setup otherwise lol, it is a good device really good for saturn games
>>740717181>This is exactly what killed retroRetro gaming is better than it's ever been, emulation is one of the only things that just improves as time goes on. ROMs are easier to get than ever before, hardware is more capable of emulating than ever before, decomp and recomping games is now possible.
>>740717496>It's hardware level recreation box completely identical to original hardwareVideo evidence has already posted to the contrary
>>740711516Woah
>>740717362>digital is just a fancy word for analog, and this one's clock bits tick exactly the same way the original's ticked
>>740717338Yes nigger and I could spend 1000 hours staring at a McDonald's cheeseburger but doesn't mean it should cost as much as a new car.They're shitty arcade games a dime a dozen and completely free to emulate or play on MiSTer. And I own Battle Garegga, Ketsui, Dangun Feveron M2 ports, they play identical to emulation, and are inferior to MiSTer.
>>740717619>Retro gaming is better than it's ever beenNo it's full of obese boomers now who want to post pictures of craft beer next to neo geo cartridges and complain about how their dad never loved them while making 80s movie clip montages. Shit is super gay.
>>740717867i do like craft beer, neogeo games, and 80s movies
>>740717713CPS3 is coming soon too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia3el452sqU>>740717867But how does that affect you? Retro gaming also has tons of you obese trannies, but it doesn't affect me outside of making me laugh every now and then.
Buy an ad.
>>740717338>These are games you can spend 500 hours on for $35Who the fuck is spending 500 hours repeating the same static and repetitive loop of a shitty shmup? Even if you do somehow manage to play this piece of shit for 500 hours, that isn't 500 hours of new, or unique, or original, or fun, or compelling, or high effort content, it's just the same boring ass game regurgitated 1000 times. You autists are so fucking pathetic.
>>740718038BUT HOW DOES THIS AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY?
>>740698092It's less accurate than most emulators.
>>740718246It's a genuine question.
>>740718325see >>740698324then kys
>>740718325>>740698324
>>740718325But why does that even matter, unironically? You can still play the game, it still feels good to play, it still looks good. "Accuracy" means nothing for anyone who isn't a speedrunner autist.
>tfw Raspberry Pi 3B+, a CRT and a VGA to SCART converterLet me guess: you need more?
>>740704475>>740705408I don't get why marketertards don't understand this.>buy my game or you're RETARDEDThis type of shilling is totally worthless and I will actively avoid your product regardless of the quality. An actually good product would stand on its own merits and be mentioned naturally in threads, not spammed with low iq babble attached. The "people" that get paid to advertise here for pennies must be brown and stupid.
>>740718639raspberry pi's aren't even a deal anymore
>>740718420If every thread is these nut gobblers who want to talk about what cables they hook up to their dumpsterware instead of playing games how does that not affect everyone? These people ruined all retro game discussion.
>>740718732I wouldn't know, I got mine second hand for cheap. It even came with an SD card, original power supply and a 3D printed case that I never use.
>>740697712>>740698092>>740698324Isn't this just plain advertising?
>>740718764I know trannies are fucking stupid, but do you really enter hardware discussion threads and start dilating over the fact that nobody is discussing some faggoty shmup?
>>740718919You posted a picture of a shmup because that's the audience you want to grift, try sega or snk tards, they're gullible and will buy anything and never play it
>>740718526You can do all of those things on a regular emulator without spending extra money.
>>740718526>tout it as having "perfect hardware accuracy">but it has less accuracy than most freeware emulators>okay but only speedrunner autists careDie, marketer.
>You see, this one part in this obscure Sega Saturn game lags by 2% for 0.5 seconds on original hardware, and emulation won't do that>Which is why you should spend $150 on a MisterI don't get it?
>>740701062>worse input lag than modern emulators with runahead>most features worse than modern emulators in generalDo you buy Beats headphones too, by chance?
>>740719076>falseflag then respond to your own post>conveniently ignoring the other two replies directing you to the post >>740698324 that completely blows the fuck out of your retarded claimkek
>>740719184TBF high likelihood that obscure Saturn game is >$150. It's just an extremely niche product.
>>740719048>You posted a picture of a shmup because that's the audience you want to griftIronic coming from the M2 marketer. This is an open source project and OP's image isn't even for sale anymore.
>>740718880First time seeing a mister thread? Blatant shilling that anyone older than 14 would be able to peg as shilling
>>740719184Moreso the fact that it has perfect video latency, perfect audio latency, no added v-sync latency with 60Hz displays (even retroarch can't do this without tearing), perfect accuracy and timing, easy and lagless connection to CRT or 4k TV, and support for any controller in existence including OEM controllers laglessly through SNAC. Also they are just really convenient, portable, and comfy in general. You never have to fiddle with anything, worry about OS/driver issues, worry about updates, troubleshoot anything, or any of that, just run update_all script every now and then and you're good to go. >>740719223Retard. The best equivalent to MiSTer would be extremely high-end reference audiophile speakers
>>740698324>mister good because more latencyOk lol. Do you play at the original resolution too?
https://www.youtube.com/live/zE-7NxQ1hLcWhy does the world record holder for garegga practice on the M2 port? That's so weird bros. I thought retro was all about collecting overpriced meme hardware.
>>740704893I'll stay on 4k internal resolution, patched widescreen, forced 60 fps with my preferred wireless pad, thank you very much.
>>740698324This anon's reply to this >>740698005 post.It took under 3 minutes to write all of that.Lets be generous and say that anon(OP) noticed that post within 10 seconds after that anon posted their reply. They don't instantly appear for everyone after posting afterall unless OP is raping his F5 key.And it took OP 3 seconds to read that post. Quick reader.Then OP wrote his whole post out of memory, because SURELY he doesn't have all that random info saved anywhere.Captcha is retarded but maybe OP didn't need to do slider shit, 3 seconds for that.This means anon wrote all that out of memory in bit over two minutes. And this is implying that this >>740698092 advertisement block isn't OP as well and we have two very passionate MiSTer people who just seems to remember all this stuff. The exact moment the thread goes up as well.I'm kinda tired of this kind of advertising here.
>>740719995>literally shows a blatant emulation issue at 4 secondskek emutrannies are pathetic
>>740719995um but anon, the mister can play it at the intended, hardware-accurate 20 fps (with drops).
>>740719961Japs are the biggest corporate bootlickers on the planet. They will not embrace open source community driven emulation, only corporate products.
>>740698324Damn. Is Saturn Tomb Raider finally playable on it? Can you swap discs in Panzer Dragoon Saga? Have any cores implemented save states?
>>740719961that's literally a troon lmao.Also Japanese players can't pirate/emulate (of which MiSTer falls under as it uses downloadable roms) or they get strung up by their balls by the yakuza
>>740703364>advertisements>free open sauce project, you don't have to pay anyone involved a cent?
>>740718880>someone actually likes something? must be advertisingWhy are you like this?
>>740720320Hey Hey retardEven if we are ignoring an obvious half truth you can still advertise a free product
>>740720183Yes Saturn is essentially perfect at this point. Single ram has a tiny bit of slowdown at times in a select few intensive 3D titles, but dual RAM is indistinguishable from OG hardware. Idk which cores exactly have save states but NES, GBC, GBA, and some others do
>>740720171Every single Japanese person is smarter than you, and I am not exaggerating. They recognize the craftmanship of a good port. They don't need to settle for subpar emulation just because some idiot on 4chan shilled for it. Just fucking concede, already. This thread makes me wanna vomit.
>>740718919Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
>>740720274>that's literally a troon lmaoSo what?https://youtube.com/shorts/YBs0lHxQmgo
>>740720378to what gain?
>>740720139>noooo it's not accuraaateI have the original DVD right here, I could buy a new PS2, why should I care? This looks 10x betterAlso, I have a PS3 which can run PS2 games, and it doesn't run them natively because the other day I was playing Shaolin Monks on it and the water was all fucked up in Goro's Lair, is it emulation?
>>740718880Yesit has spammed this thread hundreds of times and barely makes any effort to change up its spamprobably because it knows if it makes it blatant it gets lots of angry replies trying to argue with it before janny gets off his ass and deletes the ad thread, and it gets paid per reply
>>740720415>tranny, corporate bootlicker, ricedick sucker, avatarfagYou might have the honor of being the most subhuman poster on /v/, which is quite the accomplishment. >>740720434He is one though.
>>740720387cool cool cool I'm looking at the multi system 2, seems like a bunch of cool game preservationists are behind it
>>740719076see >>740698324
>>740720561Only certain PS3s have the proper hardware for native play, the later models use software emulation that is much worse (similar to shitty PC emulation).Best way to play Mercenaries is on XSX with BC (unfortunately not all OG Xbox/360 games are supported though)
>>740720495Are you an ESL who doesn't understand words often have a broader meaning than you understand or are you just pretending to be retarded?
>paying specifically for emulation
>>740720341I like SSBM but can't really write long greentext of its features and stuff in detail in like 2 minutes. Like even here I try to consider what I write.But OP just gave some emulation results etc. rather than why he himself likes it. It makes no sense, reminds me of "trendy marketing". Aka desperate marketing.
>>740720769again, to what gain?
>>740720859Is the purple box in OP free?
>>740720801its not emulation tranny
>>740720621>tranny, corporate bootlicker, ricedick sucker, avatarfagAll patented lies. I am merely someone who plays video games. That is it. If a product is objectively superior to an alternative that trolls shill here, that is not my fault, and is not my problem. I have already emperically proven why M2 is worty a thousands times more than MiSTER, and you have no rebuttal beyond name calling. You are only interested in culture wars and shitposting. This is a video game space. Go away.
I just like the best experience because I'm not a poorfag. For anything fifth gen and earlier, that is MiSTer. For PS2, that is original hardware. For Gamecube/Wii, that is a modded Wii. For Xbox/360 that is an XSX with BC.
>>740720748you can call it shitty, doesn't make it shittyyou could try to show people what you find so abhorrent about it, but... everyone would just laugh at you, wouldn't they?
>>740720951Yes. I'm emulating my MiSTER right now on my MaSTER. Perfect hardware emulation emulation
>>740720951I never claimed it was. I said you don't have to pay the people involved in the project anything. You can build that box on your own as a fun project by itself.
>>740721038Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
>>740721053One video of a several years outdated core is not compelling evidence.
>>740721058>For Xbox/360 that is an XSX with BC.Is that really good? 360 BC for Xbox sucked ass
>>740721156you lost xerMISTER won
>>740720081
>>740721215Yeah, 360 BC was terrible. XSX has limited support but every game runs basically perfectly with better res, better framerate, faster loadtimes, and no emulation issues (probably why the amount of games it supports is limited).
>>740698324>>740698092>>740697712is this just some chink shillbox or does it offer something emulation doesn't?
>>740705054Yea and it can still be hacked and loaded with roms with minimal expense and effort so it's pretty dumb not to just go that route unless someone wants trannyachievements
>>740721438I don't understand why you're quoting three posts and then asking a question that those very posts already answer
>>740719276>post BTFOs>post in question is just the delusions of some tard who doesn't understand mister is still just a collection of emulators
>>740721137>stop advertising>erm it isn't advertising>yes it is retard it is the literal definition of advertising>erm what is there to GAIN from advertising?>this shit cost money retard>uhh but you could make your own!trolling or retarded. You are at least one so admit it
>>740721420Cool, maybe I should get one thenI still have 5 Xboxes around for Halo 1/2 LAN parties lol
>guys this thing is so much better than emulators>look inside>literally the same emulators you can install normally
>>740721438its both. It offers easy susceptible retards to be parted with their cash as appose to using a free emulator
>>740721540because they're obviously retarded gishgalloping shills
>>740721171Why don't you post something better, huh???? Can you do that? Can you scrounge through links to find something you think will "BTFO" me (actually just prove me right), you stupid nigger? I'm amazed you can even operate a computer and/or smartphone.
>>740721874advertiser-chan has a flowchart to make it very simple and AI to help direct him please understand
>>740721438chinkboxes are just emulators on a cheap android or linux based box.This is hardware level recreation that offers a completely identical experience to original hardware in every way from accuracy to timing to CRT support to audio latency to video latency to input latency, and with the added benefit of playing laglessly with modern TVs and modern controllers as well.
>>740717545Not really... Maybe stop using composite cables. It can get a bit blurry with 480i.
>>740697712>"PLEASE buy my insanely overpriced raspberry pi!!"
>>740721663you wannabe jannies are bugs >this shit cost money retardwhich you have zero intensive to pay towards any "advertised" product in this thread, fagget
>>740697712why not just get a cheap laptop and use it for other stuff besides emulation??
>>740722045Don't forget lore accurate, too.
>>740722283>zero intensive to pay towards
>>740722045is any of this actually perceptible if I'm not extremely autistic?
>>740721874Here's a post from 2025 about the most recent update to the Raizing Hardware core.
>>740697712>paying for an emulator with less features than a free one>it can't emulate anything beyond a ps1>and yes IT IS emulation>it has more input lag than retroarchLOL
>>740722410incentive*FUCK
>>740722238Retard
>>740698324>zero compatibility issuesNow watch how he copes with "those are all outdated and actually fixed we just forgot to close them uwu".
>>740722426Boy this sure doesn't look like a recording of gameplay
>>740722612Has the HRT crippled your mind to the point of being illiterate?
>>740722582
where do you actually fucking buy this shit? Do I need anything else or can I just hook it up to my CRT?
>>740722724Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
>>740722724You can't do that because you can't play the games, and are therefore not qualified to say what works well and what doesnt
>>740721058Richfags will never share their secrets so I don't get what the performative gloating accomplishes
The grand irony of this thread is that the lead mister dev is a morbidly obese tranny.
>>740722582>>740722738MiSTERbros.... we were supposed to be perfect
>>740722582>feature requests>bugs present on original hardware>using outdated builds>using optional unsafe QoL settingsThere, just summed that all up for you
So let me get this straight. This is a more expensive Raspberry Pi that you can load up with roms and play on any TV? I've never played any ROM where I thought "this needs to be more accurate" so that's not an issue for me. How much does it go for? Last I checked a generic Pi is like $100
>>740722835Stop saying that you ugly troon. No one likes you
>>740722869Definitely an atrophied mind and body by HRT.>>740722984They have those in Russia?
>>740723041I (a male born with a penis) am married to a female (female born with a vagina)next cope advertise- san?
>>740722984He's not obese but ya. The people who develop the cores and stuff aren't though. They don't even use pronouns in their discord profiles
>>740722956You don't have to be rich to not be a poorfag who accepts bottom of the barrel garbage for one of his favorite hobbies.
>>740723148>They have those in Russia?literally more than the west
>>740723170Well you act like a faggot, so.
>>740723231>continues to not share the secrets to his wealthI repeat the question
Questions:- How does MiSTer handles GB/GBC features like printer or link? I assume RCT is already working.- Does it handle USB adapters for NES / SNES / Generis controllers?
Damn we're still getting these threads? It's been like what, 2 years and they're still trying to shill this shit here lmao
>>740723041Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
It's so OVER
>>740723367For Gameboy multiplayer there's a two player core. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PaCEqHS-E>Does it handle USB adapters for NES / SNES / Generis controllers?Most setups have a USB hub on the bottom, it should just work, my Raphnet N64 to USB adapter just worked.
>>740723148I am not a fucking tranny. But even if I was, so what? I prove time and time again I am better than pretty much everyone else on this board everyday. My feats aren't even hard to beat, yet no one does them. If you can't get one over on a "troon" you hate so much, that's on you and ONLY on you.
Marketing people use AIbots trained on chans to emulate their posting style to advertise whatever random shit they feel like on various 4chan boards. If there's money to be made, they don't care where it comes from, even if it's from the elite hacker known as 4chan.Source: my ass, but you know it's real.
>>740723558Shmup players are such chimps I bet he didn't even configure his .ini for minimum input lag.>>740723682>My feats aren't even hard to beat, yet no one does them.Nobody cares about your proudest accomplishments.
>>740700412>Only speed runner troons care about thisI don't see a MiSTer category on speedrun.com rankings. Looks like they mostly care about original hardware.
>>740702409You DO know the mister pi isn't the only mister clone out there, right?
>>740698092>and yet /v/ somehow finds a way to hate itPoorfags have no money. They hate things that cost money when they have an alternative that does not cost money, even if that alternative is bad. It's the same phenomenon when you look at people who insist on using a PSP as an emulation handheld instead of getting a $50 chinkheld.
>>740722582>>740722738Jarvis show me the list of github issues for the most accurate N64 software emulator
>>740722582>>740722738Jarvis show me the list of github issues for the most accurate PSX software emulator
>>740725309Why don't you compare the userbase size while you're at it?
>>740725691uhhhh.... retard bro? here is the duckstation onestenzek deleted the previous one with hundreds of other unresolved issues.
>>740726035>issue-tracker>startsThe smartest memester shill alive.
I can understand wanting a shitbox that just works for couch gaming but misterfags are a weird cult that like to spout complete lies and also ironically seem to have a very poor understanding of emulation in general.
i just wish mods would rangeban the shill, or at least make him pay for advertisement
>>740726269It's an unofficial one because the official one was deleted. Point is duckstation has way more issues than the PSX MiSTer core, and obviously more latency as well
No you guys don't understand if Marior's foot moves 0.02 nanoseconds too slow when kicking a KOOPA then the game is literally unplayable I have to spend $300 to fix this
>>740698324All this wanking over emulation accuracy when most people have been spoiled by features possible from not emulating games accurately. Fuck dealing with slowdowns and sprite limit flickering. Fuck dealing with janky ass passwords to resume your games instead using save states. Fuck playing PS1 games without the zbuffer fix to eliminate the jiggling polygons. Fuck playing N64 games with that atrocious smear filter. There is literally one benefit of the Mister FPGA, and that's having a relatively cheap all in one solution for getting a clean RGP/component signal to a CRT. If you don't have a CRT, then a MISTER fpga system is pointless to you. You may as well source a used PC handheld to hook up to your modern TV or play portably if you wanna emulate retro games. You also get the advantage of being able to emulate more systems, like the PS2/Gamecube/Wii on top of low spec indie games.
>>740726532funny thing is buying original second hand hardware would be cheaper than this soulless hunk of garbage
>>740715285You'd be surprised at how wrong you are.
>>740723036It's the $200 audio cable of emulation appliances, which are stupid as fuck to begin with. Just have a decent phone or laptop and use that.
>>740726343What are the lies?
>>740727352see >>740698092
>>740697712I only want to emulate PS2 so original hardware, repro discs and an cheap mem card for booting/the possibility of adding an HDD later would still.be way cheaper then this ugly fucking box.>>740704123>Buy this when you easily mod a ps1 mini classic for a quarter the cost>>740705054PS2 games actually good at HD though unlike ps1 which looks better at original resolution.
>>740704893PCSX2 still remains a disgrace, we need a turboautismo to pop up and make a proper emulator like it happened with duckstation curbstomping ePSXe.
>>740727441How are those lies?
>>740727546Is the ps1 mini classic actually usable now?I have one but every time I checked the modding scene was still providing shittier emulation than a pc
>>740697712>cant do xboxLame
>>740728353>xboxGo back to India Saar
>>740728231See >>740722582 >>740722738>but they're not real issuesIdk man some of these guys are posting screenshots from real hardware and this is looking like emulator bullshit.
>>740728959It's significantly less than the most accurate N64/PSX software emulators out there Pre-5th gen is 100%5th gen is 99.9%
>>740729945>significantly lessIt's still zsnes tier emulation. This is not a fundamental improvement. It's a $200 midwit box that can't run PS2 games.
>>740728429?
>>740728959Are you going to answer my question or
>>740697712Why would I pay $200 for something that is marginally better than something I can get for free?
>>740731176>perfect hardware accuracy>same video latency as original>works perfectly and flawlessly headache free
>>740697712qrd?
>>740732464hardware emulation.
>>740720320>>740720495>>740720859>OP is still feigning ignorance even when called outyou're not falling anyone, now go advertise your failed product on etsy and temu.
>>740720320You still have to buy the box though?
>>740732670emulation with different hardware.
>>740733425it's a Field Programmable Gate Array, the chip is physically configured with the logic of original hardware.
>>740732670as opposed to emulation that only exists in the aether?
Everything is all fine and good until the gate rot sets in from playing a single core too often. You pretty much have to but a Mister for every console if you're a heavy gamer.
most cores are not "hardware recreations" but software based emulation taking advantage of the high level of parallelization that you can get with fpgathere are a very very small number of cores that are using the hardware logic method, but this isn't the norm for mister
>>740733559The MISTERfag lies as easily as he breathes.
>>740733559It's a different kind of computer jiggered to simulate logic gates, but it's still a computer running a program. Which we call an emulator.Unless you can prove FPGA is not in P.
>>740727876>magicgate pull request was denied 5 years ago
>>740733559>physicallyLol this guy thought that "hardware" emulation was at the physical level
>>740733863>b-b-b-buhStill far more accurate than any software emulator with perfect video latency and audio latency
>>740730368Retard
>>740697712Buy an ad.
MISTERs only exist to take advantage of the fucked retro game market. If old consoles were still cheap do you think anyone would care?
>>740735990FPGA is original hardware with all the benefits, with many additional benefits, for cheaper, for way less space, and with no drawbacks aside from the lack of physicality of the system (but not the controller as it supports OEM controllers laglessly)You are a retard
>>740736413>FPGA is original hardwareI swear this clown is just trolling on purpose.
>>740697712The idea of these "emulation consoles" that aim for "accurate hardware emulation" just seems so odd to me, because those are always more expensive than the original hardware it's trying to emulate, and it's not like those old console gens are going to go extinct anytime soon.
>>740737191You're just a dumbass. This isn't an "emulation console"
I got mine before the retrofags ruined it, I bought my de10nano directly. I wouldn't pay like $500+ for a setup
>>740737895Then enlighten me, what is this device?What does it do beside emulating old games?
>>740737191Have you seen CPS2 prices retard. They went from like $70 a game with stuff like SSF2X being maybe $120 to everything being $200 minimum
>>740738005Why don't you try reading the thread you fucking moron.
>>740738135I did, all I learned is that it emulates old games, therefore my assumption that it's an emulation console remains until proven otherwise.
>>740738279you are clearly an illiterate retard so reiterating again won't change anything
>>740738279MiSTer FPGA is a project that recreates old video game consoles, arcade machines, and computers in hardware, rather than emulating them in software. It is an open-source hardware platform that uses a reconfigurable FPGA chip to recreate the actual logic of classic consoles, arcade boards, and computers, providing an experience that is often much closer to original hardware than traditional software emulation.
>>740738040>arcade gamesRemoving the actual cabinet ruins the actual point of actually going for full accuracy, doesn't it?At that point, what difference does it make if you use a disposable $50 miniPC running a Linux distro to play the game in whatever replacement cabinet you've prepared?
>>740738780So you're just an angry shill, screeching out impotently because your overpriced emulation console got called out for being worthless junk?Got it.
>>740738883Alright, got it.I still don't understand what does it do besides emulating old games.
>>740720320You're sending me the hardware for free? No? So it's not actually free, you disingenuous faggot.
>>740738883This is all lies by the way, FPGA is a completely different type of circuitry so it by definition can't recreate any console since there are no original FPGA consoles. The only real benefit of FPGA is easier interfacing with older and niche video-out plugs and controllers but as far as emulation goes it's all just writing software to emulate functionality the same way you'd do with any architecture. There's no magic fairy dust that makes FPGA somehow more accurate or closer to original hardware, it's up to the emulator programmers.
>>740726480Cope
>>740733726>gate rot ???
>>740737191I guess there's some appeal in an all in one solution. Going by average prices a PS1 will run you about 100$ or a SNES going for 200$. Retro market is fucked and MISTER is just exploiting it.Plus you can just use ROMs instead of having to use real carts or a flash cart which is another expense on top of that. You might end up paying less.
>>740739076The point is to emulate the hardware and experience the console with all its advantages and disadvantages. To have the classic experience but with many quality-of-life features that facilitate connections and to have everything in one place.If you just want to play the game, don't care about authenticity and can't see yourself playing Ocarina of Time at its original frame rate of 20 fps, there's no point.
>>740740196FPGA emulators aren't any more "authentic" or accurate than any other emulators, nor do they somehow represent original hardware which was never FPGA to begin with. Why do you keep repeating retarded lies?
>>740740404See >>740698324
>>740697712How's the PS2 emulation?
>>740740196if you don't use a real console you didn't beat the game.
>>740740572I don't mind if you honestly talk about accuracy (which you still got wrong on many points), just stop being a retarded liar spouting misinformation, it's not doing you any favors.
>>740740641It has specs similar to an iPhone 5. You're dreaming if you expect anything more than 5th gen on this shit box.
Why does accuracy matter so much anyway? Most of these test roms have tests for things that are rarely if ever used in official games anyway.
>>740741853And this core got even closer.
>>740740641it's a cheap retro shitbox so there's no such thing
>>740738887>Removing the actual cabinet ruins the actual point of actually going for full accuracy, doesn't it?if it's hooked up to a CRT and the controls are wired to the JAMMA edge it's as accurate as you'll ever get, the setup being inside or outside of a cabinet won't change anything
>>740697712I am having a blast!
>>740741952>>740741853Imagine thinking this result is good. MiSTer gets 100% accuracy kek
>>740742384Here's some of the tests that it failed. Pretty small potatoes to be honest and doesn't even affect gameplay and doesn't affect graphics much if at all.Speedrunners use that core and it's cycle accurate enough to sync with real hardware so it's accurate in all the ways that matter.
>>740741853The devs just spend their days knocking down each accuracy test as a sort of benchmaxxing, it doesn't really represent anything other than the devs being obsessed with specific accuracy tests which can be done and is already done on any emulator. Despite their marketing angle, FPGA emulator accuracy is pretty middle of the road, with a few of them being particularly bad which only goes to show that relying on a single vendor is stupid if you actually care about accuracy across the board and that's really the greatest weakness of this shitbox platform, it has very little developer support outside the core group.
>>740698324I can play GBA games on my phone nigga dafuq
>>740733574It means it emulates the hardware itself instead of reproducing what the hardware creates.
>>740743443That's not how it works at all and what you're saying is meaningless babble.
>>740737191It makes sense for arcade stuff where the real hardware is like $5000+ for a single game.Even if I only ever touch Battle Garegga and Dodonpachi my mistercade has already saved me 5 figures
>>740739656Why do you tell lies on the internet
>>740743496That is literally exactly how it works and you calling it meaningless babble is not an argument
>>740698324>>MiSTer's NES core is the only emulator in existence with 128/128 passes on the extremely rigorous AccuracyCoinMesen still shits on it considering that isn't the only accuracy test>>MiSTer's GBA core is one of only a couple emulators in existence that passes AGS Aging Cartridge (Nintendo's own internal test for their hardware) with 100% accuracyAnd loses to GBAHawk/NanoBoy/Mesennice try dumbfuck
>>740742647>it failed dozens of tests and it's laggy dogshit with pisspoor video and audio latency but that's okay because I'm a poorfag who can't afford betterHOLY COPIUM
The bottom line is that the Mister FPGA is a great option if you're using an analog input display of you're fine with 1440p up-scaled digital output with CRT filters for any game up to and including 5th gen. Don't expect anything more out of it, look at the specs.
>>740741623>>740742038Sounds like OP is a faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjYmSniQyMEven the tests creator admits that most of these tests are bullshit and most emulators are fine and even says that Nintendo's emulators that pass 10 out of 125 tests are fine.
>I cannot play my turn based SNES rpgs with anything more than 2ms input delay >Actually, the game is supposed to slow down by 5fps on this specific screen. It's not an accurate experience if it doesnt...Do you niggers realize how fucking retarded you are?
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>>740745646status: low
>>7407456464chan.org/banned
>>740745498the funniest part is that muh accuracy fags suddenly stop caring about accuracy when it's time to emulate the horrible input delays some consoles and controllers haveit was never about accuracy, it's about benchmarks and an arbitrary race to reach the lowest latency possible, like overclocking faggots obsessed with reaching the highest CPU clock rates just for the sake of competition
>>740743762Only for the most braindead simple cores. That 15yo low end FPGA can't make enough gates to reproduce a 5th gen console. Which is why all the 5th gen cores have bugs suspiciously like popular emulators.
>>740746982goalpost status: moved
>>740747831NTA, but accuracy only matters to GDQ troons. If you want accuracy, the real hardware and ODEs/flashcarts are available for cheap. Emulation is superior because I no longer HAVE to play games in their original poorfag constraints.
you two should get a room
>>740720320>dude i said sauce (in the wrong context) i'm just like you guysnext time include your full legal name and email in the appropriate fields
>>740697712>You are love
>>740748872While OP is a shilling faggot, it's a meme commonly used here (and even written in its expanded form).https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/%22post%20you%20are%22/type/op/
The only reason I'd get a mister is to dick around with arcade and retro computer autism (PC emulation especially since that scene is mostly run by troons last I checked), I don't give a fuck about console emulation on this thing when there's already plenty of great emulators or I could just use the actual fucking consoles I already own.
>>740724270What are some of the others? It's a good centralization of features I could use, but the tranny who spams these threads and doesn't know anything about hardware or computers has convinced me to buy any other brand even if it's more expensive just to distance myself from the faggot.
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>>740752480that's illegal
>>740748128see >>740743596You should get help for your tranny obsession by the way
>>740752843>playing shmups not on original arcade boardsImagine being as gay as you.
>>740752573I'm just a looking for an answer to >>740749741. I need better connections to newer display systems and it's about time to dump my physical collection as I don't have the same sentimental attachment that I did when I was younger.
