https://youtu.be/2Kzqdbuy13Y?si=GPQRl79bLL5gTKVd>In before hagReminder no Arlandfag here bought Arland games
Why are you retards so insecure about Arland?
Atelier games are kusoge.
>>740715226It has time limits.
Bought them twice, actually. Anyway, shit OP that doesn't actually want to discuss the new game and just wants to start a shitflinging contest.
>>740715117Arland is the weakest modern trilogy unironically, doesn't excel at anything but loli fan service.
>>740715226All the arlandfag posts I see on this board reveal that arlandfags are the most insecure.
>>740716202>modernAnon... I'm afraid it's been 15 years or so...
>>740716067Me too, I got them on PS3 and then many years later on Switch. Something about the Atelier series just makes it a perfect fit for the Switch desu. In fact I didn't get any Nintendo games for the Switch, only third party low budget JRPGs like Atelier and Neptunia. That said, the Arland games are probably my least favorite out of what I have played.
>>740716416So? Rorona was the 11th game in the series and the first to have 3D graphics and other niceties. Everything before it is full retro shit that no one will touch nowadays.
>>740715117I used to buy these games sight unseen but the alchemy system in Yumia was SO SHIT I'm going to wait and see if they learned their lesson with this one.
>>740715117Cute tummy, already better than yumiaflop
>>740716746>Everything before it is full retro shit that no one will touch nowadays.What a damn shame, too. Iris is still great. I didn't play it when it came out. I played it last year.
>>740716067Bought it 3 times. The original versions, then plus on the vita and later on got the DX versions when i switched over to the switch
>>740715117I bet her shits look bizarre
>>740715117I wish they gave another chance to the remakes and remade elie and iris trilogy. Chibi remakes were too cute
>>740716938lmao, is she chewing on a uni??btw, are there still punis and other cute things in this trilogy? haven't played Yumia
>>740716304Arland had to fight Mana K fags for well over three years
>>740716989Iris trilogy in particular has beautiful sprite art even by modern standards. I don't think they need a remake, just a re-release for modern platforms with higher screen resolutions and that kind of thing.
>>740715117is she going to be a bratty demon that needs correction from momma yumia
>>740715117>Karia>There's no way to make a cute nickname with thisThis is not okay.
Mana Khemia, now that was a REAL Atelier game.
>>740717112Yeah that too. I mean namco even brought tales of Eternia with quote a few qols. Iris deserved more attention, and make some of the NPCs playable
>>740715226Little girls are icky.
>>740717063She goes to bite a bomb like it's an apple at the end of the trailer too
>>740717185Is this game confirmed to be in the Yumiverse?
It's crazy to me that these games are still getting made, I'm honestly impressed. How do they do it, is it a low budget? Efficient workflow?
>>740717309she's in the trailer
>>740717309Yumia straight up appears in the character like a mentor character.
>>740716625ah correct, but im hopium, dont mind a non party atelieralso the karia wallpaper is cool, its a nice wallpaper
>>740717339These games are made on a budget of about 30 bucks and a pack of chewing gum. And it's not even good chewing gum, it's the crappy chalky kind.
>>740717339Dude that's nothing, the real wonder is that the Neptunia games are still being made. I'm surprised they let them keep making more after the first one. >>740717457>>740717485I'm fucking blind
>>740717339It's cornering a niche. No other RPG developer has even attempted crafting systems that involves more than 10x bones and 4x meats
>>740715117This action game, F tier synthesis slop is gonna be a trilogy isn't it...I'm not even going to pirate this.
>>740717224Started with the MK games and had no idea they were part of a larger series. After finding out I managed to get all three of the Iris games at a local used game store, and then while in the middle of playing those heard about Rorona coming out and how it was actually supposed to be like the old ones that never came to the west.
>>740716815There is a screenshot of the alchemy system on the Steam page and it looks promising.
>>740717543This is literally what I said about the Neptunia games, except it's $20 and a bag of hamburgers. I most of their budget goes into commissioning illustrators, since they just reuse every single asset. Atelier to a much lesser extent, but lots of asset reuse there too.
>>740715117>exposed tummySEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Damn, guess I have to actually play Yumia. There's no way it's as bad as people said it was.
>>740716938I already love her
Sex with Karia
>>740717912there is only one reason to play yumia's game and it's not for who you might think
>>740717912The plot is good, the characters are fun and the combat is... okay. But the alchemy system is really fucking shit and the open world is really not very interesting.
>>740717912It is, i tried to get into it three times and dropped it early on because of the garbage combat and shitty alchemy. I'm giving it a fourth shot just because of Karia but i don't expect it to change my mind.
>>740717748>>740716815they are remaking it, and HOPEFULLY its more fun this time.>>740717912its not really that bad, but it has that "good after # hours" because you cant really do cool combos in the first few hours. synthesis is dogshit.
>>740718273OH FUCK, I JUST REALIZED IT HAS BLOCKS LIKE MYSTERIOUS OMFG!!!!! I THINK THIS IS IT!!!!
>>740718172>the open world is really not very interesting.You would think with everyone who keeps saying this about series that go open-world, developers would stop doing it.
>>740717912There's a demo and that's already sufficient to tell exactly how bad it is.
>>740717491what's those things coming out of her head?
>>740718710doggy ears
>>740718710She fell into the atelier, so maybe she herself has changed. Considering she's eating so many ingredients, maybe she herself became an ingredient too.
Who's your favorite male alchemist in the series?For me, it's Luard, kinda reminds me of Kaworu from Evangelion, slightly evil but not really.
>>740718476I'm really worried we're stuck with this shit until the series dies, Gust/KT might be too scared to return to the earlier format because it could be seen as a downgrade from the flashy open world
>>740718942An Atelier character who can perform alchemy on their own body would be pretty awesome, but it's probably too extreme for the general vibes of the series.
I love ryza's games
Yumia was woke, Karia has exposed tummy so anti-woke
>>740718942>eats ingredients>ugh im so full>monster shits of the alchemical results
>>740718993maybe oscar, because hes fat then not anymore, i want to be fit like that, minus the autism ofcourse
>>740718993Gotta be my nigga Razeluxe. I just loved his general angry demeanor about all the bullshit constantly happening around him all the time.
>>740719181>safety shorts>anti-wokePick one.
>>740715117>shitty action game againShan't be playing.
>>740718476Firis got the open world right, no markers or handholding, challenging traversal, similar to BOTW/Morrowind, but it sold poorly, so they're now doing the Ubisoft approach, which is sad.
>>740718993Definitely Keithgriff
>>740719283Firis was super underappreciated :(
>>740719332You've beaten me to it.Warning : old men
>>740719332>>740719456ayeshas sugar daddy>>740719349i think character wise, everybody like her.
>>740719456automaton wife
>>740719181>He didn’t get the Yumia swimsuit
>>740715117Waiting until 2029 for the DX rerelease, alongside yumia
>>740719181>Yumia was wokeShoe size IQ post
>>740718993Anyone remember the OG Fullmetal Alchemist anime? Not Brotherhood. Towards the end the story revolves about two ancient alchemists keeping themselves alive by jumping bodies and abusing alchemy. This was framed as a very bad thing. Plachta and Luard are kind of doing the same thing, but they are redeemed in the final game, which is cute.
>>740719848Ayesha my beautiful wife
>>740719283>>740719349Firis was shit, time limit + open world was quite the retarded idea. No wonder it sold like shit.
>>740716746Iris trilogy is great and so is mana khemia 1, 2 is a bit weaker story wise.
>>740719332>>740719456>>740719848I've heard that Ayesha's time limit is much harder than Arland/Firis, should I even bother? Dusk is the only modern trilogy I haven't tried yet.Apparently the time limit is similar to Firis, as in just one huge block, but a lot tighter and there's no way to check how well you're doing, soooo
>>740715117>Last game bombed trying tol appeal to new fags>Let's try it again!Retards
>>740719916In FMA 03 the two alchemists stole bodies from persons. In Sophie iirc Platcha split Luards soul in two homonculi then put her soul into a book to keep watch.t. grew up watching both FMA anime.
>>740720412It's stricter than Firis but more lenient than any of the Arland games. It's easy enough to beat the game but getting the true ending is a bit harder without a guide, particularly since you can lock yourself out of it by doing events in the wrong order with no warning.
>>740717491Why do you keep your games as desktop icons, anon?
>>740720256The time limit is only for the exam bit, basically the prologue, literally 90% of the game's events and quests are all in the time limit free part.
>>740720412The real filter in Ayesha is the alchemy system.
>>740720654sorry i dont really use those wallpaper engines thingy, also i like the clutter.
Wait is she a hebe? Are they finally returning to hebes?After Yumia I said I would only buy again if they did another hebe mc
>>740720641meruru might be more lenient but rorona and totori are definitely stricter.
>>740720824>Wallpaper engineI don't either.Was just curious mostly. All of mine I go through a launcher.
>>740720849She looks like Schera from Trails, who was mid 20s, she's probably like 21 again
>>740715117Not playing until teenage girls and turn based combat are brought back
>>740717491No Fatal Frame 2 remake? I found it very good.
>>740715117>generic anime girlBleh.Will Gust ever design another character as memorable as Sophie?
>>740720849>After Yumia I said I would only buy again if they did another hebe mcYou have to wait until this trilogy is over and they hire another character designer for the next three lmao.
>>740721153Sophie, the most generic anime girl in the series?
>>740721153Resleriana was a pretty good design. She had a genuine chance to be a more modern Sophie if they didn't turn it into a fucking gacha.
>>740721032I was having a constant deja vu, ishtar from fate fake
>>740721153>Will Gust ever design another character as memorable as Sophie?Yeah, her name is Ryza.
>>740720849Speaking of Yumia I think I saw concept arts of it posted here a year ago and at some point we were supposed to have a loli scientist in the party.Does that ring any bell?
>>740715117>I can't believe it. This is all underground?AGARTHA IS REAL!
>>740720941i see, well good day to you anon>>740721106already played it on emulator before the remake was announced so i dont have a reason to buy it. its still scary as fuck even if emulated tho.
>>740719916The price of increasing their life spam was thousands of human lives.
>>740720641What is considered a true end? I got Keith's ending did I beat the game
>>740719181the visible tummy party slot was already filled
>>740720462This and capcom doubling down on wilds by releasing an expansion makes me baffled
>>740715117Atelier needs to stop releasing so many low effort games and just put their time into a handful of decent games. No one wants to get into a series with so many entries when they're all average quality for full price.
>>740722160Works fine for Trails and Yakuza, Gust just needs to stop chasing trends. They have their own niche, why compete with Genshin or whatever.
>>740722160You don't need to play all of them
>>740721717>its still scary as fuck even if emulated tho.I see. Only bad thing in the remake is that you lose the fixed camera plans but in return you get hand holding.
>>740715117I wish we could get another girl that was as attractive as Ryza..
>>740715117Wake me up when Atelier is not afraid of being cute again. Until then I sleep.
>>740722065they are not really trying it again, i think they actually trying to enhance it, like ryza> wilds by releasing an expansionthis one however, if not for my friend i would not buy the expansion, piece of shit optimization, fucking hate capcom for it.
>>740722823>Only bad thing in the remake is that you lose the fixed camera plans but in return you get hand holding.And you get censorship. And you get a shitty combat system where every ghost is now an HP sponge and you avoid attacks with dodges powered by a stamina meter.
>>740718993Flay. Easily. How can anyone not love him.
>>740722976This. What's wrong with being cute? Afraid of what your international audience will say?
>>740722976Love them
>>740722823>hand holdingthats actually a good trade.>>740722976i still cant comprehend why lydies mom gave her that revealing outfit, i mean, im fine with it, its just funny to me lmao. best twins btw.
Is there no Yuri on this one?
no outfit upgrades, no buycostume dlc doesn't count
>>740715117oh we are continuing the pseudo action circling around enemies combat
>>740717207Riri?Kars?
>>740723268Is Nelke worth playing? In the L&S DLC you can see some (I'm assuming) units from Nelke and there's a version of L&S's atelier, are they a major part of the game?
>>740723094>And you get censorship.You can mod it out.>And you get a shitty combat system where every ghost is now an HP sponge and you avoid attacks with dodges powered by a stamina meter.Skill issue.
she will never be topped
>>740723636>Is Nelke worth playingif your fine with time limits yes, its a good city sim game (to me at least), was unable to finish it tho, if you lose you'll start from scratch, might try it again sooner or later.>are they a major part of the gamemany mcs are in the game, and you'll have like events for all of them.
>>740723636The gameplay is kind of a chore, and boy is it annoying when you have to go through and change out everything you've got your alchemists making because you've unlocked newer shit, but I enjoyed all the convos you get between the characters from different subseries. Also, you know that one pic about Totori with the charts and economics shit? Nelke is literally that for real
>>740724142>>740724386>you know that one pic about Totori with the charts and economics shit?This one?Wait, I didn't realize Nelke had time limits, thought it was just a build whatever, auto-battle for mats, watch events, you can't fail, kind of game.
>>740724386The season pass was on sale while in the middle of replay so I ended up breaking down and buying it. The outfits really are cute
>>740715117No more Yumia? She was so cute.
>>740723636No, it's very tedious. It's optimal to have every alchemist making 1 of a bunch of different items so managing everything is a hassle especially with how the menus are set up. And then after week (in game time is measured in weeks) you'll unlock new items and need to change everything again.
>>740724986>thought it was just a build whatever, auto-battle for mats, watch events, you can't fail, kind of game.thats also my thought process when i bought the game lmao. so theres that, if your fine with it, your going to have fun, so many characters left and right, its like a nostalgia game
>>740725092damn, that is a cute meruru her game is the best one
>>740723636Not really. Putting aside what was already said about the tedious management, the combat content in it is braindead, and the characterisation isn't great either. Nelke and the other original characters are good but returning characters got flanderised to hell and back.
I've always wanted to dip my toes in this franchise but I never know were to start. Do I go with Totori/Rorona/etc., or do I go with Ryza's games?
>>740724986Yeah that one. There are 100 turns for the main story, which each turn have a weekday and weekend portion. After that if you beat the boss you can go and enter infinite time or ng+. Here's a screenshot I took for some reason near the beginning of my recent playthrough
>>740725317She's in this one, but she's not the protagonist. That's how it goes with all Atelier sub-series.
>>740726107The games all come in trilogies or quartets, so ideally, you should start with the first game in a series, which leaves you with:>Rorona>Ayesha>Sophie>Ryza>YumiaHonestly, knowing nothing about your preferences, I'd recommend Ryza, as while it doesn't excel at anything, it's at least decent at everything it does and has nice graphics. Very easy to get into.
>>740726107Rorona if you want autism. Ryza if you want casual.
>>740726107>Do I go with Totori/Rorona/etc., or do I go with Ryza's games?Do you like games for gameplay? Start with Rorona if you want to progress in narrative order, or Totori if you want to progress in QoL order.Do you like games that never challenge you in any way and have more graphics and bigger boobs to distract from that? Start with Ryza.
>>740726107Pick a series that looks appealing to you at a glance and go with it.>Rorona/Totori/Meruru/Lulua>Ayesha/Escha and Logy/Shallie>Sophie and Sophie 2/Firis/Lydie and Suelle>Ryza/Ryza 2/Ryza 3>YumiaI personally would suggest Ayesha (because I'm an Escha and Logy fag) or Sophie (because I'm a Sophie fag) but pick your poison
>>740726550>Do you like games for gameplay? Start with RoronaThis is a wholesome thread, why troll like that? Rorona is braindead compared to Ryza, both the combat and alchemy are extremely barebones with very few mechanics, it's a pure time management simulator.
>no pantsudrop it
>>740715117I bought the original releases and both the PS3 and Vita releases of the plus versions. I haven't played any of them for more than like three hours though
>>740715117Cute tummyslut
>>740726783>Rorona is braindead compared to RyzaYou're retarded.>both the combat and alchemy are extremely barebones with very few mechanics, it's a pure time management simulator.The combat system in Rorona is better than Ryza's spammy bullshit since you actually need to consider your moves and optimise for time as well. The cost system in Arland requires more thought than Ryza's alchemy loops and the time management directly ties into the alchemy system because alchemy consumes time. You need to actually think about what you're making and how to optimise the process and make the most of your resources (and this feeds into the shop register system where you consider what to register and prioritise using money on), as opposed to Ryza where you just do whatever the fuck you want and it doesn't matter because there are no consequences.Idiots like you mistake there being more convoluted gameplay systems for the game having more depth when Rorona's simpler mechanics are far better executed because everything is designed to work together to get the player to actually engage with the system and work towards goals instead of mentally checking out for 40 hours until the game is over.
>>740726783But Ryza is the braindead game though?It even has difficulty selection so you can treat it as a VN on story mode.
>>740727324What you're saying only really matters in Totori and Meruru. In Rorona you get stats and gear from the front desk/bingo cards, so you may as well just skip crafting gear entirely and be completely fine.I just think that recommending Rorona to newcomers might turn them off of the entire series, the game is barebones and not very exciting.
>>740715117>another hag atelier>after yumia failedImpressive, they seem to think they can do it right this time lmao
>>740727941what difficulty did you play on
>>740727958Did Yumia do poorly?
>>740722510It doesn't really work for Tales though, the franchise has only had 2 games in the past decade because they've bled their audience so hard.>>740722756Yes I do.
>>740715117Should be fatter
>>740728256Gust said it was the fastest selling atelier and that's it, the fact they aren't boasting about her sales like they did with ryza, which they still keep boasting about to this day, means she must have done poorly.
>>740728334Trails not Tales. Falcom releases a new game each year, just like Gust.
should i play yumia or ryza?
I will never forgive Gust that it’s not canon Rorona didn’t get her pussy stuffed by Sterk (lore accurate)
>>740727941>In Rorona you get stats and gear from the front desk/bingo cards, so you may as well just skip crafting gear entirely and be completely fine.You played on easy, huh?>I just think that recommending Rorona to newcomers might turn them off of the entire seriesIf they get filtered then it's for the best; we'll get less people like you.
>>740728685Ryza, if you want an Atelier game (lots of complex crafting), Yumia if you want a "we have Genshin at home". The new game they just announced is pivoting back to complex crafting because Yumia was received poorly.
>>740728685Yumia if you want friendship kino. Ryza if you want to just oogle at Ryza.
>>740729098>Yumia if you want a "we have Genshin at home"This is actually a strong selling point, considering I always wanted to play something like Genshin without the stupid mobile game currencies and gems and gacha whatever shitting up the interface.
>>740729098>Ryza, if you want an Atelier game (lots of complex crafting)>loops for an hour>complex
>>740728107>>740729095>You played on easy, huh?Normal, I just didn't bother with Overtime because it spoils Totori and Meruru. Apparently, Overtime does require crafting good gear, but it's literally a post-game DLC.
>>740718172The plot is NOT good, plays like an vwn more mediocre and cliche tales of, gme is a faliure in every sense
Yumias biggest issue is they are selling the atelier builder but you get too many fucking bases so you can’t be assed to customize them making the whole mechanic fruitless
>>740729319>NormalSo easy. Every Gust game should take hard as the base difficulty. Of course the problem with their newer games like Ryza is that even on the hardest difficulty they're still braindead and easily broken.
>>740715117shame yumia couldn't get a sequel but at least she had a good run
>>740729290>I always wanted to play something like Genshin without the stupid mobile game currencies and gems and gacha whatever shitting up the interface.Depending on how particular you are about this you might be interested in this game coming up, it was being developed as a gacha until the dev and publisher split and the devs decided to rework it into a full offline title.https://store.steampowered.com/app/4575730/DragonSword__Awakening_Demo/
The worst part of Yumia was the crafting being awful, so hopefully they improve it significantly
>>740729931That's what I'm thinking too. I thought she would make such a good trilogy protagonist.
>>740715117I won't play her game, but she cute.
>>740717491There's clearly going to be other party members. In addition to space for their HP on the left, it shows a Karia icon above the item/skill menu that leaves room for more horizontally. The previous game featured the ability to swap characters in battle for combos, even amongst those that weren't present, so I expect that mechanic to return. The first Yumia trailer only showed her, too, though the UI wasn't visible. In fact, the combat appears to be about the same with the enemy attack indicators. The major difference seems to be replacing the spammable cooldowns; now you build up MC with basic attacks then spend it to use items and skills.
>>740729726Playing a time limited game on hard your first time through is some wild advice. I don't believe you did that either.
>>740730872>I don't believe youOk. Great discussion retard.
>>740729931>>740730140This is how Atelier games are supposed to be. Ryza was an outlier and I think it was for the worse. Instead of seeing her grow to be a mature onee-san alchemy teacher, she just stayed as the same Ryza from the first game but just a bit older. Now we can bask in mommy yumia goodness.
I don't like Arland because all MC's except for Lulua are literal retards. Rorona doesn't even understand alchemy, she just thinks it's guru guru and boom.Lulua was a great game though. But it borrowed a lot from Mysterious, especially Lydie & Suelle (which is the best Atelier game, hands down), so it's to be expected.
>>740731357UOOOOOOOHHHH HAG YUMIA
>>740715117Justice for Yumia.Her game was way overhated
>>740731709It tried to "modernize" the Atelier formula, which in turn pissed off Atelier fans, while at the same time being too weird for "new fans", thus Atelier Yumia ended up being a game for nobody.
>>740731357She's a delinquent now?
>>740732029they should've gone the spin-off route and made one game for the "modern audience" and one for the actual fans
>>740730872What's so unbelievable about that? I always play every game on the highest difficulty available. Just reaching a not-bad ending is pretty easy even on that difficulty as long as you don't waste time for no reason.
>>740732135That's what the Resleriana game was for, it's turn-based.
>>740732135They did. The issue is that the one for the actual fans was the spin-off.
>>740731709>Atelier game that made the alchemy an automated afterthoughtIt wasn't hated enough.
>>740732270>>740732342>make game for the actual fans>censor itTheir strategy is too high IQ for me
>>740732029>pissed off Atelier fansi mean come on, atelier fans hate atelier gamesps2 atelier fans are not atelier fans they are just good guysps3 rorona-totori fans are faggots, including sophia fansDusk fans are true atelier fans, there are time limit, and kinda some hard bosses, and hard alchemy, but dusk fans kinda okay with anythingryza fans played only ryza games, they don't know other gamesblue reflection fans like everything
>>740730872This is why games without difficulty options are superior>retards give shit advice>no way to discern who played on what difficulty unless people are truthful (lol)You actually didn't beat the game.
>>740715226Meruru gang terrifies Duskfags.
>>740732516>make game for the actual fans>cover it in a hideous chromatic aberration filterAnd that's a minor gripe I had with the game. Crazy that you guys are pretending this is some brave "return to form" just because they slapped on a generic turn-based combat system.
>>740715117When will they improve the graphics jesus fucking christ at least buy the unity URP shaders that literally every gacha game and their mother is using
>>740732516It's strange how just totori and wilbel lost their panties while the side characters still have them. They even undid some of the gacha censorship like plachta's outfit. It must be a playable character thing.
>>740732657In reality there are just two groups of Atelier fans, the Dusk and earlier ones, and the Sophie and later ones.
>>740715117Gross another hag. Wake me up when Atelier goes back to cute hebes doing cute things if the series doesn’t die first
>>740733090Yumia looks way better.
>>740733110I think Lulua was the last game with fully modeled and unique pantsu for every girl except small children. These are impossible to see in normal gameplay (the screenshots were taken with a free cam hack, the game doesn't even have a photo mode) but the devs still modeled them anyway, fucking perverts lmao
>>740733110didn't wilbell always wear bloomers or am I misremembering (totally don't wanna see her panties)
>>740715117I guess Yumia or whatever wasn't popular enough to spawn 3 games.
Atelier Ryza 3 was the last Atelier I played. Atelier Shallie was the last Atelier I liked. Atelier Meruru was the last Atelier I loved. That's all I have to say.
>>740726847nopan? nice
i want to jizz all over her thighs and belly
>>740735263for me it's her knees
What's a good 2019-- Atelier for me if I love crafting shit and putting them up for sale?
>>740735613Annie
>>740715117Any yuri in this one?
>>740733886Yumia is literally mentioned in the fucking trailer did you even watch it
>>740715117>doubling down on the real-time battle systemI'm okay with this if they make it less terrible.>Open world againFuck
>>740732657I started with Dusk.>BR fans like everythingNo the fuck I don't
>>740719181>Yumia>woke
>>740726107Rorona is the default starting point. Ayesha~Shallie if you want cool atmosphere, then back to Rorona. Sophie~L&S if you're REALLY afraid of getting filtered by the lenient time limits, but then back to Rorona again.Marie (not the remake) if you have autism.Ryza if... nah just don't bother.
>>740735613Pretty sure Viorate is the only one that lets you do that, but that's off by 16 years.
>>740726107Odd option is the PS2 Ateliers, something that I did.Generally an easy time but definitely not a representation of the alchemy systems that the modern series are known for as they're easy to exploit depending on which entry are you playing.
>>740735263Already better than y*mia
>>740733838>fucking pervertsFor what, modelling what girls are supposed to be wearing under skirts? I'm really not sure why doing so is treated as "pervertion" when it's the most normal thing to do.
I wish discovered this IP sooner. The girls are so good
>In before hagok but why? Why not switch it up every now and then?
>>740730806>now you build up MC with basic attacks then spend it to use items and skillsThis is actually better than the last system, hoepfully it would be cooler too.
Tummy tum, me licky lick
>>740733216>like Salburg, Gramnad, Arland, Dusk, and MysteriousMore proof I don't actually exist.
I'd specialize in making aphrodisiacs. The old and rich would come from around the world to buy my wares with a adjacent pizza shop that makes mostly neapolitan pizza.
>>740716202at least in terms of gameplay it goesAyesha>All of Arland>>>>>everything else
>>740717207Shouldn't "Karia" be the cute nickname? it wasn't called "Atelier Rorolina" after all. if they wanted to they could reveal her full name as something longer
Kind of a hot take but I always found the first game in each series to be the best ones and the sequels are kind of shit.
>>740718993Keithgriff
>>740720256funny you accurately rated Firis while getting none of the reasons right. Firis was shit because the comfy SoL was completely ruined by the "journey" setting making every event feel really random and forced, and the sister being more annoying than likable.
>>740721032>She looks like Schera from Trailsexcept for being shorter, less brown, and having smaller tits, or in other words, almost nothing at all like Schera aside from hair color.
I want to kiss this tummy
>>740722160>normalfags trying to kill off another long running franchise by begging for 8 year development cyclesnah fuck off, yearly releases are the good shit.
>>740740474No, they're not. I say this as someone who played nearly every Atelier out there. If they had more time to make more interesting and unique enemies, the games would just be infinitely more worth than what they usually end up being.We need go back to actually challenging alchemy + combat, now that there's no time limit things should've been even harder, instead it feels like each game gets easier even in the hardest difficulties avaible.
>>740740845none of the issues you mention would be solved by having the games take longer to come out, the devs would just take that much longer to fully realize that they're issues. You wouldn't see them spend 9 years making Ryza 5x better than it was, you'd just be stuck with Ryza and only Ryza for nine fucking years straight.
>>740740006One of the series staples Yumia did away with was the nicknames. Yumia is her full first name. Karia is probably the same
One a year is too much, they need to stop announcing Atelier games already and start announcing bankruptcy.
>>740741435Ayesha did it first, the whole nickname title thing has never been a staple.
>>740742598>firstLilie, actually.
>>740715117Do you need me to show you my Rorona and Totori files, or are you ready to get down and suck my dick right now?Yes, that is a hag. Yes, nu-GUST are a pathetic anti-otaku disgrace. Yes, there will be no fanservice and black voids, you will get some mild shit in the promo bonuses and that's it, that's how GUST has rolled since the turn of the decade. Yes, the gameplay will be more wannabe AAA open world Genshinslop. Yes, ArlandCHADs mog you and your sad husk of a series whored out for whiny Twitter normgroids and niggers.CopeSeetheDilate
>on salewhich atelier is the best one out of these?
>>740715117>Reminder no Arlandfag here bought Arland gamesWrong, there was no way I was passing up the sexy Totori poster back then.
>>740744114totori’s story is my favorite out of the three
>>740715117isn't it really fucking disrespectful for nintendo to waste time on ports of runescape and minecraft and other trash that everyone already knows about, but a brand new Atelier game announcement is considered so unimportant that it gets shoved into the sizzle reel?those guys must fucking hate the people at gust for some reason
>>740743245I will consider sucking your Arland-sized futa cock if you post your 100% save files for all three games.
I wish we could go back to cute adventures with cute girls. Newer Ateliers just looks like generic turn based slop.
Hag atelier games are instant turn off. Whats the target audience for this crap? Certainly isnt the same for the rest of they shit
>>740715117I have. Except tha last one. That I pirated
>>740716541What's your most favorite? I played and finished some others, but Arland was the best for me
>>740719456LOVE old men! But I prefer Gio. Old men should be slightly retarded
>>740744957>Whats the target audience for this crap? The "global audience". They want to turn Atelier into a "respectable" AAA JRPG franchise since it's all that GUST has that makes any bank and Ryza went viral with meme thighs, so they're watering down the alchemy even further, putting more emphasis on the "open world" and meme crafting, making the designs as safe as possible, and switching to action-based since journalists told them turn-based is heckin outdated.>"This time, we wanted to make a high-quality ‘RPG’ and make a title that would be liked by more users who don't know ‘Atelier’">“As a result, we decided on a design direction that emphasized coolness- a strong independent woman who uses footwork.”>"Hosoi added that when they put Isla and Yumia, whose design was still not finalized, side by side, Isla looked more like the typical Atelier protagonist. The developers then had about 30 to 40 rounds of fine tuning to make Yumia feel more like the main character and to try and make her appeal as global as possible. They settled on emphasizing her coolness as a strong and independent woman, as well as her use of acrobatic footwork." It's arguably just a continuation of the direction the Ryza games took, so you can blame Ryzafags for this as well.
>>740724386Has Sterk scored or is he still a virgin?
>>740745735lets just put it this way, Rorona has a daughter now, and Sterk is NOT the father.
>>740745735I'm just going to believe he eventually got lucky in an alt universe
>>740745190Lulua! Not a proper Arland game I know, but a very special game for me.
>>740743245I was with you til you said mog and started talking like a fucking twitch chat addicted faggot. Very cool of you to say nigger though, cheers on that
>>740745735Sterk is pure
i've played a bunch of different ateliers from arland onward and I've been happy with the ones i've played and one day I'll play the ryza trilogy. i'm excited for karia
>>740744114i enjoyed rorona's gameplay the mostbut I enjoyed totori overallmeruru is the game you play because you've already played the other two so you may as well
>>740745705Eh. Even Ryza would be considered "questionably young" by today's standards. The overton window has shifted that far since Ryza 1 came out.
>>740746048The only alt-universe where Sterk has a chance is the one where Sterk is a girl.
>Just dropped on background during EN direct>JP get proper revealWhat the fuck.
>>740744114>Arland gamesPlay them in order you dummy. Get them all if you can eventually. Part of the appeal in these games is the fan service that occurs when you re-encounter characters or understand a reference from previous games.
>>740715117Why it looks like it has Genshin Impact combat?
>>740746320Westoids get fed slop while Nippo chads feast like kings. I'm afraid we have no choice but to learn the ching chong dialect if we want to not be treated like peasants.
>>740744114You're meant to start with Rorona and it's also the easiest one to get into with the most QOL improvements and a well-paced but easy to tackle time limit system broken into parts versus Totori which doesn't fully disclose its own time limit and has you working towards one large goal instead of several smaller goals.Rorona herself is a lovable idiot savant who you will get attached to quite easily if you have any appreciation for moe.
>>740746317Not really into yuri, but that's one that I'd be willing to accept
>play rorona in english when it came out because i wasn't paying attention to the language settings, so I don't even know if you could change it to japanese audio>play lulua years later, which only has japanese audio>rorona shows up>holy shit i recognize that voice from my Illya phone alarm>look it up KINO KINO KINO KINO
I miss them
>>740744917they should bring this char designer back
>>740718993Merurushe learned alchemy faster than Rorona, so like Astrid said, she's either super genius or even more retarded than Rorona
>shows tummy>mini skirt>forearmwhy are Atelier girls getting sluttier by the year? what happened to modest roses like Rorona and Meruru?
Shit designYumia was goodShall not buy
when are we getting another mana khemia game
>>740746320They got Ryza 3 and Yumia full reveals on the NA directs, the former was carried by, well, Ryza. And Yumia was a push to the global audience, they made her serious and pissed and using a gun in all the early marketing. They went as far as going on an Xbox event and saying the game was "like Halo."You can tell they pivoted a bit because they started doing cute dances and shit closer to the launch for Yumia and then started shilling the Resleriana offline game to tell old fans they weren't abandonedHere they're starting right from the get go with cute appeal. Like the logo has bites taken out of it because she's a cute girl who eats everything. I guess they figured the West wouldn't care if she's not flailing a gun around and took the sizzle reel.
>>740746964>They went as far as going on an Xbox event and saying the game was "like Halo."Wait what? Is this real?
>>740746942mana khemia is just Atelier with a boy protagwhy would you want something like that
Kiara reaction to the new game announcement.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrGV7WRtClg
i will buy this game for the sake of my bomb eating wife's bomb addiction
>>740746964They're very tall in an uncanny way for what you usually see in these kinds of games. It looks like they had to go out of their way to do it in an unnatural and forced way. The proportions on the heads relative to the rest of the body is like they were deathly afraid of anyone ever accidentally interpreting them as being any younger than 30. What a strange decision.
>>740747292>Re-upload is PROHIBITEDAnd you wonder why nipponese hate overseas fans.
>>740729931I love Yumia but I'm glad she didn't. Changing up the protagonist is the biggest thing that sets the trilogy games apart. Ryza 1, 2 and 3 are barely different to justify their own existence and the biggest reason why 3 was so boring cause I felt like I'd already played it twice already.
>>740746757They brought Mel Kishida out just to humiliate him on stream a few months ago as he was forced to watch his beloved passion project Blue Reflection get castrated for "global market". You could tell that some part of him just died inside, he had almost zero enthusiasm and tried to assuage the audience with meek reassurances.As much as I'd like to see another Atelier series with him at the head, I don't think he has the energy and I certainly don't expect it to recreate the charm of the Arland trilogy.
>>740715117Holy shit, this series is still going.I only ever played the Arland games and some of Ayesha, but kinda dropped out after that. I always liked the art more than the actual games. Totori's flat chest still has maximum sex appeal. I'm 38 btw.
>>740747386He looks so mad lol
>>740746942People would call a new Mana Khemia a Persona knockoff.
should I get Yumia while it's on sale or is it really that bad?
>>740747604It probably would be one if they made it today.
>>740747296The Resna spinoff had this conspicuous and cringe "starring two young adults" tagline when the original was just "two people/the two of them".They are absolutely deathly afraid of the Twitter/Bluesky cancel crowd. Koei Tecmo in general has been extremely squeamish about this ever since the GamerGate era made them pull Dead or Alive out of the west. I have no doubt its why they censored the everloving shit out of Blue Reflection to the point they may as well have put the girls in burkas.
>>740746610You should look up who voiced these three for maximum kino.
>>740747386The japanese version of the release is going to be uncensored, right?
I love Ryza and Yumia
>>740746942when they remaster the first two at least
>>740747927i want to cover them in white stuff too
>>740747886Seriously doubt it, that whole stream was in Japanese and releasing games like that is not how "global" companies like Koei Tecmo and most major Japanese publishers roll, they will just push out one censored SKU for everyone to save costs and tell the Japanese to suck it up. That's generally how it's been since 2020. Worst part is that they will likely delist the original Blue Reflection as well.
>>740747386>not even in cosplaythat's the most "his smile and optimism: gone" Mel Kishida has ever been
>>740748224>picThat's awful. There was an anime like 10 or so years ago called Shimoneta, and I am reminded of it.
>>740731709She looks like a hentai game protagonist
Blue Reflection was a shitty game.Kishida peaked with Atelier and Hanasaku Iroha.
>>740715117One day GUST will remember me...
>>740748403Kishida doesn't know how to design games. He's just an illustrator and character designer. He was going off of an established franchise and series conventions when working on Arland.
>>740745915Didn't this cause massive backlash?
I still like how Piana was the master for lulua. Totori vs Piana should have been used more
I hated Gio, Meruru's kingdom was doing fine. it was small but it was fine. the people loved the monarchy and the people are living their lives. then Gio has the stupid idea to urge Meruru's father to turn the kingdom into democracy, the gall of the fucker
>>740748224>they will just push out one censored SKU for everyone to save costs and tell the Japanese to suck it up.They kind of have to with Steam, since they have a single global standard and won't let Japanese devs be pervy even if their games are region locked.
>>740747040https://youtu.be/RKNhGrXYiHg?t=1233It's somewhere in this, yes.
>>740748791She can put a halo around my dick if you know what I mean
>>740748313Shimoneta was the anime and manga industry's backlash to some Japanese laws being discussed at the time.They didn't consider that Japan would spread its asscheeks and sell out its culture to the whole world for the sake of "respectability" half a decade later. The studio that animated Shimoneta literally went on to become part of the problem when they animated 2.5D Seduction and censored it so badly you wonder why they even adapted this manga to begin with if they had so many issues with it.
>>740748791Wait a minute, that pin...
>>740746610You want to hear her sing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzD76g4BlQA
Here just to say dusk 4 any day now
>>740731357>Instead of seeing her grow to be a mature onee-san alchemy teacher, she just stayed as the same Ryza from the first game but just a bit olderSophie remains the same in her sequel, but nobody complains about that. Only a year or 2 passes between Ryza's games, so you can't really expect a drastic personality change
>>740749034well, i can safely say i never expected to hear Rorona sing Offspring.
>>740749330If I remember right she's 17/20/21 in the games
>>740749330That's because Sophie is already perfect
>>740749167Atelier Linca LET'S FUCKING GOOO
>>740749026do you think he'll wear the pin this livestream?
>>740749330>Only a year or 2 passes between Ryza's gamesthat's the problem, rather than have her character grow and change they just forced MORE RYZA.
>>740747824Kodomo no Jikan is quite possibly in the top 10 "can't make this in current year" things in existence.Even back then, it got dropped from all but one Japanese TV station (which still aired it censored) and every single American retailer refused to stock the manga, causing Seven Seas to cancel the English release. If it were made today, Watashiya might just get harassed by a crowd of seething jartyposters. The 2000s were the high point of fanservice in Japanese anime and it was a combination of high domestic sales and low global sales (the American recession helped there) that allowed it to become an otaku paradise. With Japan's economy now in the toilet and otakus overwhelmingly moving their spending to gacha and VTubers, the anime and manga industries have declined significantly and are opening themselves up to the west like a brothel to try and offset the loss of otaku money.
>>740715117>Reminder no Arlandfag here bought Arland gamesi bought all 3 games and lost the barrel shirt that came with meruru LE
>>740747505You picked a good time to stop. The series really went downhill after Ayesha.
>>740744917>Newer Ateliers just looks like generic turn based slop.Half the problem with them is they aren't turn-based anymore.
>>740749653She was more responsible in the last 2 games compared to when she started out in her first games. Expecting her to be less of a tomboy or less energetic in the following games is something that no fan would want
>>740715117Big Atelier fan here, this looks generic as fuck
>>740749570>her plot about her sisters go nowhereI need dusk 4 so bad
>>740749859KnJ is illegal to watch or even own in several countries as well, it's something that could never happen twice.
What is the appeal of these games, like what do you... Do? I tried one of them out on Vita years ago but it seemed boring, like the cycle is just>wake up>try to make something >no ingredients>do boring mmo battles in the field while treasure hunting >make things maybe>that's it
>>740750741The focus on and depth of the alchemy/synthesis mechanics is what makes the games unique among other JRPGs. If you've already tried the usual gameplay loop and you don't find the characters charming, then this series is probably not for you.
>>740750741You are not the audience. Its okay to just move on
>>740746320>>Just dropped on background during EN directIt's a shame too since there were nice visual gags in it, like the bomb eating.
>>740748224They said they'll keep the original BR up for sale to be fairhttps://x.com/BR_general_info/status/2060919204929519844This release still needs to flop hard though
>>740754221That's kind of an admission that they don't have much confidence in Quartet when you think about it. Every publisher tends to delist the originals when they do these remasters/remakes because they view the new game as a full replacement for the old one. The fact that KT isn't doing this with Blue Reflection is a tacit admission that they know this can't replace the originals because of the censorship and people will still be interested in the old release because it's not censored, which means they know all those people likely won't be interested in Quartet.
>>740750294Dusk needed a second game set between Ayesha and Escha & Logy set in Central that expands on the country, the Lincas, and Ayesha's terrorism, and then a fifth game that actually gives us a little hope for the future of Dusk.
>>740718993why does every jrpg use the same english font
>>740746796Meruru is trans?
They made 2 new Gust accountshttps://x.com/GUST_ENhttps://x.com/GUST_JP
>>740756073>ENglobohomo won
>>740715117>No handsome male MC to self insert and romance herWhat's the point?
>>740747640I think it’s good
For anyone curious, I picked up the yumia switch 2 upgrade just to see what its like. In handheld, it is higher resolution than even boost mode. And it looks a lot better docked as well. However I don't think it's maintaining a steady framerate, it still has the performance and quality options. I don't have a way to measure the fps so I'll wait for someone to do some proper testing. But resolution is an all around improvement.
>>740756073Wait, wasn't Gust just a bunch of doujin makers?
>>740721210that's probably Totori
>>740746796She just had a better teacher. Astrid literally didn't teach Rorona ANYTHING, and Totori had to somehow figure out Rorona's terrible explanations. Meruru is the ONLY alchemist who was actually taught alchemy properly.
So this is sequel to YumiaWhy did it flopped
>>740759645yep, Yumia flopped so hard they were ashamed to keep her name on the series and had to make up a whole new alchemist to try again.
>>740756804Cool, thanks. I wish I had a switch 2. I have the switch 1 version of this game, but only played the first 20 minutes before deciding it was probably going to be a miserable experience.
>>740756804I need to finish my testing on all platforms. Shame I sold my high-end GPUs so I can't really do it justice on PC
I was never able to get into this series. If they keep dumbing it down maybe it will get dumb enough for me.
Is Yumia a bad place to start if I've never played any of these games?
>>740761778Probably, yeah. It's nothing like the previous games and they may choose to have future games also be nothing like Yumia because it sold poorly. You guys should try the Yumia demo and decide for yourself desu.
>>740759645No matter how I look at it, the girls aren't cute. This is "a game that only Americans and people from American countries can enjoy."
>>740759645I want to kiss Yumia
>>740759645I want to hug Yumia and her
Do people actually care about the pantyshots or it's just culture warring? Wild that that half of the thread is ranting about it when that kind of fan service hasn't been a thing since OG Arland trilogy.And it was creepy af anyway, in Rorona there's a shop with a female shopkeeper and a bunch of dudes inside are ogling her every time you visit the shop, and at one point one of them says that he wants to drug her and have his way with her. How the fuck did anyone think that was okay? Really takes you out of the cute atmosphere.
what parts of yumia would you want to keepI wouldn't mind an improved building system
>>740763494It's just a tranny with too much free timeIt was doxxed and turns out it was a tranny.Enjoying fanservice is good but making it political and constant ragebaiting it's not, those didn't even buy the other games to begin with
>>740759645Ass too big
>>740759729Holy newfag
>>740762126It's made for genshinfags, brown retard.
>>740749859Normalfags finding anime was a disaster. There is this obvious roastie in a certain threads in /a/ constantly losing her mind over the tamest fanservice manga. She is always forcing muh older women and muh feet because obviously a 38 yo titless can't compete against teenagers with good boobs
>>740763850Wait really? I haven't been on /a/ in a long time, probably since 4chan got nuked a year ago. Has that board tanked, too?
>>740763906At least that thread has one>Lower common...>Gooner>Please you should associate this harem with cuck shit >Please love old women (like me)>Make blacked edits with cute young girls And she constantly forces her favorite manga or else loses her mind
>>740764079Oh you mean that one who had an entire meltdown because people were posting some new waifu with massive boobs? I don't go to those threads anymore, her samefagging is annoying.>>740759645Too different
>>740759645Yumia was a decent game. But it wasn't a good atelier game, the alchemy was dogshit.
>>740763667there's a lot, but improving the building is one, aside from that keep the exploration too but don't tie ingredient quality/effects entirely to skills so you have a reason to get the same ingredient in different areas. the dodging into party swap was cool but i'd rather have it in turn based combat but karai won't be that so too late for this game. i think the motorcycle is cool but it doesn't feel like there's much benefit to using it they need to do something to make it better. if they keep the particle line thing make the pathlines to them more direct because they send you the long way around way too often. i liked the camping/cooking too just make setting the camp down way less of a pain in the ass and add more cooking recipes and effects. simple synthesis is a nice idea but some of the recipes for it were obscure and a pain in the ass to get and almost felt useless when i finally got them. it doesn't have to be braindead easy just make them a little easier to find at least. traits and trait blending was handy because you could add and remove traits from equipment freely it's just the blending was just kind of convoluted to keep track of
They are trying so hard to replicate Ryza's success
>>740759645Get woke go broke
>>740756804The performance has to be a bug, no way they promoted the switch 2 version with 60fps gameplay only for the actual release be a stuttering mess.
>>740763667Not an improvement but a downgrade, the duplicator is too OP, I think its better if they just make a farm and base on the catalyst used it will grow duplicates, its quality is based on how good you take care of your crops, the skills on it will be based on your catalyst but it will not have all the skills, there is a low chance however to get the same copy of skills. I think this is better and more fun and not just throw the material inside then wait to have 300 copies of it.
>>740715984Enough to be banned in both /vg/ and /vrpg/? There are no threads for this series anywhere.On a different note, how is our very first gyaru character in the Atelier franchise as a whole, much less the fact she's the MC?
>>740763667To add the battle system is fine, i might be misremembering it but there is no way to control evasion on your team at real time, so team control is also a good plus
>>740768087>Enough to be banned in both /vg/ and /vrpg/? There are no threads for this series anywhere.They're not banned, in fact there used to be Atelier generals on both boards (I was the OP for the /vrpg/ ones actually, this was around Sophie 2/Ryza 3/Marie remake), but the Western fanbase is just too tiny to support constant threads, so they died out. I mean, just look at this thread, aside from the usual /v/ culture warring and gooner posting, there is almost no discussion.>gyaruHow tf is she a gyaru lmao
>>740763494>Wild that that half of the thread is ranting about it when that kind of fan service hasn't been a thing since OG Arland trilogy.It was a thing until Ryza, retard.>And it was creepy af anywayGTFO tourist.
>>740768328Her hair, fashion sense, and personality (never mind the fact she eats all sorts of materials she crafts) scream gyaru or jirai-kei.
>>740768346That Sophie 1 panty shot is only possible with camera hacks. In fact, Sophie 1 was a very tame game, it didn't have any bathing scenes or other fanservice events. Who's the tourist now? You probably just found this comparison on Twitter and haven't played the actual games.>>740768463The Atelier MC's are all not-Germans (with the exception of Lydie & Suelle who are not-French), so that's just her natural hair color.
>>740768463You have no clue what jirai-kei is.
>>740768463She is neither, look up what those words mean.
Also, has Reslerania (the gacha game still active in Japan) actually reserved the whole romance thing with Ryza and stated who she's interested in? If anything, it only fueled the fire about Ryza and Klaudia, the other girl who doesn't even have a love interest.
>>740768495>That Sophie 1 panty shot is only possible with camera hacks.Yeah that's great retard, you could still see them in gameplay otherwise. Same for Corneria's panties at certain angles.>In fact, Sophie 1 was a very tame game, it didn't have any bathing scenes or other fanservice events. Who's the tourist now? You probably just found this comparison on Twitter and haven't played the actual games.Yeah sure, let's ignore Platchta's entire design which got censored in Resleriana because it was too much for nu-Gust. Let's ignore that Firis had the sexiest bathing scenes in the series right after Sophie, and more panty shots.
>>740768637Plachta's design is probably the biggest blight on the Mysterious series. Yeah, let's have a reserved and shy girl wear lingerie with her ass cheeks hanging out for 4 fucking games. Easily the worst Yuugen design. At least you could get a different outfit for her in Sophie 1, but in the later games she only had the default one.Sophie making this body for Plachta was supposed to be this big emotional moment, but the outfit being so ridiculous makes it hard to take it seriously.>I don't care if it makes sense story or character wise, I just want sexy and lewdGooner brainrot
>>740768557Literal non-canon gacha sloppa
>>740768557No Atelier MC will ever be officially paired with anyone, just let it go. They will all die virgins and never experience any love. And their bloodline will end with them.
>>740768557She had gay scene on the summer event with Klaudia. The ASMR is Klaudia POV. She's strict Yuri.
They should learn to give the characters weight. Movement feels so cheap.
>>740769181That requires money Gust doesn't have.
>>740768972>lie>get called out>"well it was problematic anyway so it's good that it's gone!"You are a cancer not just on the series but on humanity itself.
>>740769091What about the very first ones during the Sega Saturn days? They have male partners, which is better than female ones, and do get married in the end.
>>740769651No, you are the cancer and the reason these games are not popular and getting threatened by rating agencies and platform holders, because you spam sex sex sex I want to fuck the 14 yo girl in every thread and under every YouTube video, so people think these games are pedo trash and need to be policed harder.I just want a cute Dragon Quest with complex crafting, the fanservice was literally never the point for me. And yes, some of it was extremely problematic like that NPC in Rorona saying he wants to drug and rape the shopkeeper, like what the hell man, whose bright idea was to add a line like that.
>>740769914>No, you are the cancer and the reason these games are not popularThe only time the games got popular was with Ryza and that was because her thighs went viral. Before that Mana Khemia almost killed the series before Arland saved Gust from bankruptcy with it being a relatively huge success.>and getting threatened by rating agencies and platform holdersGust's games are affected by neither, it's Koei-Tecmo's self-censorship that's restricting them.>I just want a cute Dragon Quest with complex crafting, the fanservice was literally never the point for me.Then go play something else, dipshit.>And yes, some of it was extremely problematicGood, there should be more of it to filter people like you.
>>740769848No idea about the pre-historic games, but Rorona onwards it's the same rule as idols and vtubers, the MC must die alone, because some otaku slob imagines that she's his waifu and we don't want him sperging out.Lulua was probably the worst example of this, Rorona and Sterk are 35 and 46 and still virgins, and Rorona had to adopt a kid, to have some semblance of a family.
>>740769914You're the kind of person who would call every single pre-2020 GUST or Japanese game in general child porn. And when censorship happens, it's in response to the incessant whining of people like you, not the kind of people who played the Arland games and enjoys anime made before Covid. No one had an issue until the normalfags flooded in and brought their shitty opinions with them.You are the problem.
>>740769914For the record, this is textbook concern trolling and I highly suggest you stop feeding this faggot. The Arland games with their frilly petite girls and time/resource management systems will always be the archetypal Atelier games no matter what people like him say.
Atelier Yumia is on sale for like a little less than 40 bucks. Should I buy it? Unless I'm mistaken Karia is a sequel to that game?
>>740770373Atelier Iris > Arland. Cope, secondary.
>>740770075>Gust's games are affected by neither, it's Koei-Tecmo's self-censorship that's restricting them.Holy cope. Do you seriously think they can release Blue Reflection 1 uncut on any modern platform and it's just some KT higher up holding them back? lmao
>>740770542The post-Gramnad pre-Arland games are the OG secondary-core, equivalent to Ryza/Yumia. Bet you haven't even played Salburg.
>>740770554>Do you seriously think they can release Blue Reflection 1 uncut on any modern platform and it's just some KT higher up holding them back?LoveR Kiss got released on the Switch not only uncensored but with additional loli versions of every character, so yes, all it would take is KT not being compromised and having balls given that BR was never that risque and KT is a much larger publisher. See also Edens Zero which released on everything.Meanwhile Fairy Tail got censored with a day one patch which shows it wasn't a ratings issue because if it was CERO would've demanded a recall and rerating of the physical copies.
>>740770471>Karia is a sequel to that game?Yes it is and yes you should buy it. Yumia is fun similar to all Atelier games.
>>740749859I mean, KnJ is disgusting.
Time limits are never coming back by the way
>>740770471Yumia is kinda bad and they're pivoting away from it with this new announcement. Yumia removed too many core mechanics trying to chase the casual audience, and the game is just very braindead the sales dried up quickly. So they're backpedaling on these changes.I'd recommend starting with Ryza 1 or Sophie 2 personally. Maybe the Arland games if you don't mind the older graphics. Yumia is just a soulless open world checklist game.
>>740715117are you only gonna have one character now or is it just so early they don't have anyone else to show off?yumia was kinda weird. but i also only played ryza trilogy before so i don't know what my opinion is even worth.
>>740771141I believe the first reveal trailer for Yumia didn't show any party members either.And for fuck's sake, at least play Sophie 2.
>>740770471I remember playing it for free and uninstalling it in the first 5 minutes because how bad the camera controls / 3rd person was
>>740771252>And for fuck's sake, at least play Sophie 2.i tried getting into sophie 1 first but i bounced off of it. or just kinda got distracted by something else.my autism stops me from just jumping into 2.
>>740747194is it pronounced kiara? i thought it was pronounced kariya or something close to that
>>740756804Someone on reddit posted a footage of the Switch 2 upgrade, the game runs very poorly and has frequent glitches.https://www.reddit.com/r/Atelier/comments/1u1i8mm/thought_i_would_compile_footage_of_the_switch_2/
>>740771057>the sales dried up quicklyIt's the most sold Atelier game ever though
>>740771679KT has said the ryza series in total has 2.5 million sales and Yumia's last sales count was only 300,000.
>>740716938Wait. Those are horns. They're really just blatantly recycling Valeria's concept but made her less titty and more witchy.
>>740771679Excellent example of why Steam numbers are a meme. The only thing those numbers say is that there were 14k players on launch, which is not even a lot, indie games get that many nowadays.
>>740771679Why do you go on this board and post lies?
>>740746617>Girl named Ayesha>28 year age gap>Beats her and her friends up>Has a sexdoll>Both of them are wanted terroristsWhat did Gust mean by this?
>>740772116Ayesha was made to appeal to women
>>740746470She looks like THAT? Maybe I should start with Rorona after all
>>740726847this.
Played Sophie 2 and Resleriana, i choose Lulua as my third game in the series because i NEVER see anyone recommend it and im a contrarianits enjoyable
>Yumia badI already bought a physical copy though...
>>740772857Lulua is not recommended often because 70% of the cast are returning characters from the first 3 games and every other area is nostalgia bait. Very weird pick on your part. Great game though, but sold poorly for these reasons, and it's why Sophie 2 was set only after Sophie 1 and not the entirety of Mysterious.
>>740771784>A 6 year SERIES vs A SINGLE fucking game of a seriesNice comparison retard, the only yumia sale we have is the first week so it might be double now.
>>740772940rip
>>740772940Enjoy anon! Also please tell Isla I love her.
>>740770471Yes buy it, just reinstalled it again they added a harder difficulty if you are into that
>>740774391>Ryza 1 came out in September 2019 (on Switch, PS4, and PC)>Ryza 1 announced to have hit 500,000 sales in August of 2020, 11 months after release>Ryza 2 came out in December 2020>Ryza series announced to have shipped 1 million units in March 2021>Ryza 3 came out in March 2023>Ryza series announced to have shipped 1.6 million units in March 2023>Ryza series announced to have shipped 2 million units in June 2023>Ryza series announced to have shipped 2.5 million units in August 2025 (total for entire Atelier series announced to be 8 million at this point, ie. Ryza alone is over 1/4 of the entire series' lifetime sales over 30 years)>Yumia comes out in March 2025 (On Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series, and PC)>Yumia announced to have shipped 300,000 units... in March 2025There have been no updates on Yumia's sales since then. None. No new sales milestones. No announcements over a year after release. They announced shipping 300,000 copies the same week the game came out and that's it.
>>740775906You just added more info on what I already stated, you cant compare a single games sale (in a week) to a series sale. No announcement doesnt mean it doesnt have more sales, what we need is the current sale (on the same duration) and base it on ryza 1 vs yumia, not this retarded shit.
>>740776357>No announcement doesnt mean it doesnt have more salesWhy do they announce sales milestones for other games and not for Yumia?
>>740776823I dont know, ask them, it has probably higher milestone that is not met yet.
she looks cute but I can't be assed to install steam for this, at the end of the day why would I play janky jrpgs like this when genshin and star rail exists? the last atelier game I played was the first Ryza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC4uMRLBBYA>New Local GameShare Functionality – While playing with another player using GameShare, you will be able to switch between the roles of main player and support as you battle and explore.
>>740779235>gameshareIsn't this just sharecreen/shareplay like on PS5?
>>740771542Disappointing.
PLEASE RELEASE IT THIS YEAR OMFG
>>740773195>the first 3 gamesArland trilogy are 11, 12, 13 in the series.
>>740715117>another hag looking mc>still the trash Yumia's world setting and skipping. see you real Atelier fans in another arc or spin-off thread in a year or two. >Reminder no Arlandfag here bought Arland gamesmy old pic before Lydie & Sue released proves you wrong. I also have them on Switch and Steam btw
>>740715117Haha tummy
>>740781283Thought it was obvious I was talking about the Arland series.>>740781453They're all hags except for the first 3 Arland games + Lydie & Suelle, weird hill to die on lmao
>>740771460No at a point in the past, Kiara intentionally mispronounced her name as Karia. Its shown in the clip.
>>740779235They spent time developing this mode unique for the switch 2. And then didn't improve the framerate.>>740779876No its like download play on the ds. Second player with their own console can play as player 2 controlling flammi.
>>740747363>nipponeseThis was made buy a mutt larping as a japanese. "She" has a kofi page to beg money to repay "her" student loans.
>>740747363It's so cute when trannies put watermarks like that on their art
>>740715117I bought the Arland trilogy and Meruru is my favorite Atelier game
>>740782210>And then didn't improve the framerate.but then why did they show a much better framerate in the promo vid?
I'm just now hearing that gust compared yumia to the first halo, how does that track? I haven't played through any of the trilogies since Dusk ended but was thinking of getting into this one
>>740781453Unbelievably based. Until gust stops chasing the "international audience" this is correct move.
>>740772857I love this game so much. My only complaint is they don't really have different songs for most of the fields.
>>740781453>another arcyou got one more game left before that happens so 4 years given the current release track record>spin-off threadsee you in one year I hope its a good game
>>740765096That's what I'm thinking. They just can't let go of that time they had every westoid on twitter and reddit posting shitty memes.
>>740769091Unless its the Iris Trilogy games where each MC is paired with a heroine. Then again the Iris Trilogy is something of an outlier. Not even the Resna gacha have any character from it.
>>740738881I'm pretty sure that's more or less the same system ryza had.
>>740790151ryza 2 and 3 were pretty much>do basic attack to fill skill attacks>do skills to build item points>use items to absolutely shredexcept you could get upgrades for ryza to just start every fight with 5 item points and skip step 1 and 2. so once you had your big rose bomb or whatever everything died in the first 5 seconds anyway.ryza 1 was a bit different were you had limited item uses until you returned to base but could recover a couple by exhausting an item and making it unusable until you returned to base.
>>740790151Really? Didnt finish ryza coz 1 its very boring and my autist brain cant fathom to play a sequel without finishing the prequel. I do get where in ryza you build meter higher the level the strongest kind of gameplay, but this one seems to build mp and base on MP you use the skill or item thingy. Im so happy this game is back and is actually my mowt anticipated game this year or maybe next year!!!
