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I don't get it. Describe what you see pls
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>>740734845
nomura REALLY won't let the dark seeker saga die
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Xehanort, who is literally my son, as per the mobile game, is actually a good boy.
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Young Xehanort yaoi bait.
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>>740734845
Xehanort offering an umbrella in trying times
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>>740734845
This game is aesthetically hideous. The setting looks like it was made to run on a PS3. Completely flat and devoid of any detail and props.
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Nomura's on his bullshit again.
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Looks AI
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>>740735465
>In Japan, the hydrangea (ajisai) represents heartfelt emotion, gratitude, and sincere apology. This meaning stems from an ancient legend where an emperor gifted blue hydrangeas to the family of his beloved to apologize for neglecting her. The flowers also symbolize the rainy season.
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>>740735629
Play dark road. It's obvious from there.
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I thought we were done with Xehanort? He's back?
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This trailer is something but has too many literal whos with Young Nort and Luxord
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>>740734845
On the left is Sora, the main character of the series.
On the right is Xehanort, villain of the series until this game.
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>>740734845
a disney character died and the mc and his friend are mourning him
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>>740735967
Noones ever really gone
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>>740734845
i hope it's just Xehabunga counseling him from the afterlife because he found inner peace in the Force or what the fuck ever. see pic related.
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>>740734845
>>740734996
He's good now, he's one of /ourguys/
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Is it just me or did that trailer look jank and dated as hell?
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>>740738660
Looked fine to me. The morphing effects on the building during Darkside's fight were prety cool.
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>>740738460
he was literally just pretending the entire time because Xigbar's eyeball's box
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>>740738660
It was because you watched the Switch 2 version.
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>>740738913
i love when 90% of your saga's plot gets retconned as a couple of players doing an act and not meaning a single thing they said because they were doing 69D chess the whole time. Thank you Nomura. Thank you Kojima.
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I see Nomura trying desperately to stealth revive Versus XIII through Kingdom Hearts
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Who dis nigga???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j151ek2rYs0

The 4K trailer from the KH youtube looks way better
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>>740734845
Isn't this just Riku? Not the first time he's worn Xehanort's hairstyle.
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>>740739574
Notcis
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>>740735967
Quadratum appears to function like an afterlife of sorts so it actually makes perfect sense that he’s here and knew what was gonna happen to Sora in 3
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>>740739857
Nah that's definitely young Xehanort. I didn't play the KH3 DLC but I'm pretty sure both Sora and Xehanort ended up in some sort of keyblade wielder afterlife.
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>>740739574
More cast members from Nomuras aborted Final Fantasy VS 13.
He will never let it go and you will experience it forever and ever.
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>>740739574
Dis nigga from one of those fuck ass mobile games. He died in it.
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>>740739574
That's Derek, bro.

>>740739857
That's what I originally thought and still hope to be true. Bringing back Xehanort sounds awful.
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nomura would be a far happier man if the twewy ip took off and he got to live out his metrosexual fantasies into perpetuity like that
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>>740739857
No. He's not trying to be subtle.
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>>740740117
You literally go to the afterlife in KH3 when Xehanort kills everyone and it does not look like this. Stupid if true.
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>>740740394
That's purgatory
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>>740740252
Squeenix just hates TWEWY. There's no other possible explanation for what they did to NEO other than willful, malicious action.
Besides, I liked TWEWY enough. I don't want him to Nomura Jizz all over the plot as he already did by leaving the sequel on a fucking cliffhanger that resolved little to nothing for an extended plot despite given how remote the chances of another title is mad.e The dude cannot actually conclude a fucking story to save his life and I just cant handle that at this point.
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>>740739574
Someone said he was a teacher at SCARLA ET CRYIA or whatever and was one of Xehanort's teachers/master's that died. What's interesting to note is he uses a backhand style of fighting with the keyblade just like Ventus. It's also neat because apparently this means in KH4 we will get to meet and fight against/alongside deceased keyblade wielders, and since we saw Xehanort...I'm assuming we'll see Eraqus as well.

It feels like some sort of fanfiction if anything.
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>>740740394
The final world was the final stop before death that’s outright what they tell you
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>>740734845
kingdom hearts is
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>>740741024
Naruto
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>>740739857
Riku is not that tall or old looking. That's a younger Xehanort but he's at least in his late 20's or early 30's there, plus for some reason he's like 6'6.

What's retard though is Sora and Kairi are only 16 and Riku is 17. I think we should have had a timeskip, but it's hard to write a timeskip into Kingdom Hearts just based on how the story is going. I think maybe like a 2-3 year timeskip would have been neat. An 18-19 year old Sora and Kairi and a 20 year old Riku. I think if it was too long of a timeskip that'd be jumping the shark, though seeing like a 25 year old Sora, Kairi, and Riku would be neat.

Can you believe Aqua was only 18 years old? Terra was 20 years old. They looked like they were in their early to mid 20's to me....Aqua and Terra had very defined/matured faces to be so young. Aqua easily looks like she could be 25-24-26 years old...she doesn't look like an 18 year old at all.
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Sora is rocking some new kicks in KH4....WHAT ARE THOSEEEEEEE HAHAHA LE SIX SEVENNNN MY YOUNG PEOPLE

Sneaker culture/obsession is retarded to me
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>>740738660
yes. the characters have no shadows during gameplay.
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>>740741485
Those are just those flat sneakers, aren't they? New Balance or something? Don't remember the name of them, but I do know they exist.
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>>740738660
It was a genius idea premiering new footage on the handheld
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>>740741554
The heartless don’t have shadows if they’re pure blooded actually
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>>740741485
shoes are cool even if you unironically hate shoe culture you tasteless fag
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>>740741610
But the real question is...do they come in black and yellow like that?
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>>740741940
Young Xehanort didn't die thoughbeit.
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>>740734845
What are the chances it won't have Disney characters like kh3 didn't have ff characters? So basically, kh4 will be the reverse of that. Tbh Disney can go suck off
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>>740742291
nah star wars will be a world, its pretty much confirmed
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>>740735967
MoM set up that Terranort was investigating Unreality as a concept and experimenting with Kairi to do so.
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>>740742291
We know Donald, Goofy, Mickey and Hades are in the game

But Quadratum looks to be the most relevant a KH original world has ever been, arguably it’s the core of the game rather than other KH original worlds being sparsely sprinkled between Disney worlds
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>>740742364
Ah. That's too bad.
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>>740742424
That is because of the concept that the real world is the Unreality for other fantastical worlds, and where their people go to when they die. Our world is basically their heaven.
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>>740734845
You're falling for trailer bait. There's no way this is actually him. Sora is most likely hallucinating his appearance. I.E. Sephiroth in FF7 Remake.
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I don't get it. I loved all the KH games and their stories until KH3 and the weird unrelated mobile/web stuff.

Why did the series suddenly implode into shit nobody cares about?
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>>740742517
The gacha game ended with Xehanort joking about his 14th life, he’s almost certainly in Quadratum especially if it’s like an afterlife realm

And it’s probably a technically different version because Young Xehanort you fight in 3 just went back to his place in time
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>>740742443
i dont give a shit about disney but in kingdom hearts it can be cool. like aladdin and sora being homies and buzz light year making fun of sora for being a bullshit ass anime video game character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs5-O43NDxk

and disney worlds are cool for being unique settings. i literally do not care for disney outside KH its just a weird mix, in fact, i fucking hate star wars, but in KH it could definitely be cool as shit. make darth vader a boss
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>>740741610
Vans or Chuck Ds.
>>740741485
I kind of get it but I couldn't handle my nice $300 shoes getting scuffed or run down so I avoid it. Absolute ocd hoarder hell money sink.
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>>740742541
SE just fumbled everything because of the massive games inbetween their games

With KH we had the mobile games and handheld games inbetween, after KH3 we had nothing but deaths and cancellations and Kairis ddr game
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>>740742819
Quadratum is the afterlife.
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>>740739574
>>740740194
I would like to believe that Sora not knowing who these people are would mean we get to figure it out with him but then I remember that Missing Link was cancelled and was supposed to set up kh4.
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this is why everything outside of KH2 vanilla is non-canon to me

what a fall from grace, fuck you nomura
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>>740734845
the whole trailer looked AI generated just like the cover art
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>>740738660
SQ rushed the trailer on the new engine
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>>740741940
tbhfam yeah, I was pissed off when all the orgxiii members who Disappeared came back. Their death scenes were all quite affecting, it's weird that they acted the way they did when they were about to be recompleted.
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>>740742541
-DDD introduces time travel which ruins most stories
-KH3 continues this so now we're fighting a bunch of characters we've already killed
-nomura decided to start tying major essential backstory into mobile games nobody cared about.
-KH4 goes for a realistic aesthetic which nobody asked for and the only footage they've shown is of Sora fighting in a generic japanese cityscape.
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>>740742894
Wasn't the final world the afterlife?
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>>740742541
taking too long to release any content at all
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>I don't get it.
that shitty scene from the others 500 animes you haven't watched
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>>740742541
Square pushed too hard to make too many gacha games back then, but they’ve killed most of them now so I wouldn’t worry about it, it’s all gonna be in game now

Legit like half the characters in this trailer have almost no screentime even in the gacha game, you really aren’t supposed to know who they are, if you know their name from it that’s all you really know, for example the dude with the mask was just an NPC in Dark Road. This is a bit different from how KH3 set up and even executed quite a bit of its story in side games and it was impossible to follow without them
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>>740742894
quadratum is not confirmed to be the afterlife. what it is confirmed to be is a different side of reality, completely separate from the kingdom hearts "universe" , it is unreality, a different dimension
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Why is it in the real world? I though in KH the only world aside from the Disney stuff is a generic shonen world, not...ours.
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>>740742819
>But Strelitzia did and we see her in the same world as the other characters.
They already established in KHUX that Lauriam and Elrena were both going to use Strelitzia's data in Data Daybreak Town after she had died to Vanitas, bring it outside of DDT, and then bring her back using said data. You can very easily make the connection that Terranort or Xemnas spoke about the Quadratum project and Replicas, turned them into Nobodies and Xehanorts in exchange for doing something with her data, and she ended up in Quadratum. Marluxia and Larxene both remembered their original goals and lives when Sora killed them in KH3 meaning they likely remembered what they were doing with Strelitzia.
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>>740742753
They made the most sense in crafting the story for KH1 and they were good conduits for certain story beats in KH2.


In all the spinoff games they were very "eh we needed locations for characters to be in"

But by the time we hit kingdom hearts 3 it felt more like an obligation than anything. Unfortunately Nomura's latest writing isn't really engaging enough to warrant a completely original universe, so KH will be continue to be padded with corporate disney requirements
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>>740742952
just kill yourself already nigga, god damn
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>>740742541
It was a combo of KH3 being mostly a filler nothingburger + Nomura being obsessed with putting all mysteries in the mobile games that nobody played
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>>740742541
>>740743048
>taking too long to release any content at all
This. I did not care much for KH after 3 dropped, I didn't even play the DLC with the secret boss. Nomura should've made an actual Verum Rex game.
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Nomura is really just making Versus XIII inside KH4
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>>740742894
Quadratum is a part of Unreality which is simply the opposite side of the coin of reality. Concepts and aspects of reality they can't imagine on the KH side is real there. MoM literally spoke of it being a world of fiction in KHUX. There is nothing that implies it's the afterlife at all.
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>>740743042
It’s the final world before death and some souls linger there before passing on like the nameless star Sora talks to, who is from Quadratum
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>>740743087
technically, it's not <our> real world, it's a world that's real...
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i remember playing kingdom hearts when I was like 15 years old and back then I stopped playing it because it was making me cringe so hard and I felt embarrassed and I was too old to be playing this game.

to think there are grown ass men in their late 30s / 40s that will buy this game, my god.
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>>740743150
I have a gorillion hours in the kingdom hearts games and yet I somehow have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're talking about because I didn't play the fucking browser game or whatever the fuck it was.

why did square enix let nomura get away with this?
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>>740738660
Lol
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im just going to assume i dont need to care much about the gacha characters and just treat their existence the same way I did org XIII after going straight from KH1 to KH2
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>>740742403
I like that they actually brought back the pod room from KH1.
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>>740743087
There’s wordplay involved but basically Sora is in “unreality” rather than his own reality, but this unreality is actually reality. So he’s in the fictional city of Tokyo
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>>740743371

.......What?

>>740743463

That...comes dangerously close to making sense.
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>>740743408
Don’t worry about it, it’ll get explained since they had to kill the game

From like 2015-2020 square was totally obsessed with gacha games so Nomura got thrown to that instead of a handheld/console side game like they did before
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>>740743180
KH1 was simply an accident on all accounts, something created by a once in a lifetime chance encounter.

>In all the spinoff games they were very "eh we needed locations for characters to be in"
well you're not entirely wrong. KH has always been about KH, the main characters, even in 1. the only disney characters that will ever matter is donald, goofy, and mickey mouse.

KH3 technically did have Disney intervene much more, and you do realize that Sora is a Disney character technically right?
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Who even cares about Kingdom Hearts anymore except retarded manchildren in their 30s?
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>>740743408
Better get to watching the cutscenes of KHUX because it's the entire backstory of every main antagonist in this current saga, the backstory of Ventus, Marluxia, and Larxene, explains tons of things you saw in the Keyblade Graveyard onward in KH3, introduces a huge amount of characters you now need to know like Brain, Ephemer, Skuld, and so on. The movie of KHUX in 2.8 is completely 100% useless as it only covers on extremely minor aspect from the Foreteller's side that was implemented into KHUX's story anyway.

KH4 will have an impossible time trying to explain all the context necessary without just outright giving you a novel of KHUX to read in the journals. Here's the Master of Masters talking to Luxu (Braig).

>>740743621
>it’ll get explained since they had to kill the game
That was Missing Link, not KHUX nor Dark Road. To explain KHUX would require a huge amount of time and effort they likely will not have or give. The exposition would be hours long from multiple characters.
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>>740743087
You were seemingly ok with Traverse Town and Twilight Town
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>>740743821
>Don't see Kingdom Hearts 4 selling well despite it being on ALL consoles.
There is zero chance it sells as well as 3 which Squeenix is clearly going to be assuming since 3 sold as well. They're going to ignore the entire context for why 3 sold well and then have to give 5 the same budget since 5 is likely going to be the final game (Nomura wanting to retire + 4 is likely setup for the finale).
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>>740743801

Yeah, they would never pass for real life Earth. Just your basic fantasy universe where they can do whatever, and also visit Disney worlds. Now apparently our world is their fiction. Or afterlife. Or something.

This series makes my head hurt.
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>>740743748
Not even Japanese fans can get this lore the right way now, because it's EoS'd. The entire backstory to KH4 is just gone.
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>>740743627
okay? so get off this nintendo board then retard and go play your call of duty
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>>740743445
Yeah it’s like that

Actually I did skip CoM back then and didn’t really have a big issue, it was a little cinematic going from that open ended ending in 1 to the Roxas prologue
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>>740734845
gayness in the anus meets darkness
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>>740743821
Batman as a concept is timeless and there are many times where he flopped or no one cared about him. The issue with Kingdom Hearts was that it was made where Square was actually dominating with JRPGs and actual Disney still had massive cultural presence with their properties. Not many give a shit about Final Fantasy anymore and Disney is just a mega corporation that focus on Marvel or Star Wars, Persona is even more popular these days which is insane to think about 20 years ago when P3 was released and it was made for otakus.
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>>740743748
Yeah if they include even HALF this shit in KH4 I'm going to be permanently done with the series. At that point I'd rather see Disney villains standing around a table again like in KH1, except this time Vader is force choking Gaston or some shit
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>>740739574
One of the many character ideas that nomura refuses to let go from the versus XIII days. I admire his obsession, the man held on to that shit so hard to the point where he deleted final fantasy characters from KH3 and will keep disney + his versus XIII world and bring the rest of his versus ideas directly to KH instead. Nomura is beyond chuuni and autistic. I don't know any other old school japanese company senior like him that have that much dedication to a dead project like nomura. He's special.
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>>740738660
Pretty much the same shit we had to endure with the KH3 teasers, when the game finally comes out the real gameplay will look nothing like this
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>>740744140
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>740744140
Well it’s a whole new saga so it’s not gonna be all of 4
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>all this character talk
>nobody acknowledging how SHITTY and FLOATY the combat is

It looks even more unplayable than KH3's (which they kind of fixed after the updates)

FUCK I JUST WANT KH2-LIKE COMBAT
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>>740742943
Haley Joel Osment will probably still sell a decent "Uh, who are you again?" This is still a total reboot where Sora himself doesn't know what the fuck is happening. Other characters will have to explain everything to him.
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>>740744487
I’m not judging it til I play it because KH3 trailers genuinely did it no favors with combat
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>>740743980
>Not even Japanese fans can get this lore the right way now, because it's EoS'd.
We literally have entire videos in level release order so you can get the story correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68lZEYUjtRU

>>740744140
>if they include even HALF this shit in KH4
The girl in the coat at the start of the trailer is likely Skuld (Since she's missing after taking the Ark with Ephemer who is likely dead since he helped Sora in KH3) or Ava (Since she's not with the furries at the end of KH3 and was established to be with the Dandelions). We also know Subject X (One of those two girls) was friends with Isa and Lea as KH3's Secret Reports established.
Strelitzia is already helping out Sora meaning at bare minimum she will either tell Sora her backstory when she meets him or her story will revolve around Lauriam and Elrena now finding her after befriending one of Sora's friend group, likely Roxas'.
Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are all heading to the modern Scala Ad Caelum as established in the end of MoM.
The furries literally have Darkness in them and MoM's plan is to eventually kill them so he can kill the Darkness within them and erase it as a concept.
We already know that Dream Eaters are Keyblade Wielders from the Age of Fairytales so at some point Sora will have to wake them up.
Ventus has his Chirithy from when he was a Union Leader as of the end of KH3 and he recognized it in the ending meaning he has his memories back from KHUX and killing Strelitzia when he was possessed by Vanitas which there is zero chance he doesn't have a PTSD attack about when Sora brings her over.
MoM, Luxu, and the Foreteller's backstory is all established in KHUX. Why MoM hates darkness and Darkness, why Luxu opposes MoM, and what the Foretellers even do.
Darkness (The characters) are established in KHUX and Maleficent knows at least one directly.

I don't think you grasp just how much will be involved in KH4.
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>>740743268
lol, good catch
deus dormit
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>>740744575
I'm going to kill myself
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>>740740808
>It feels like some sort of fanfiction if anything.
It's KH, it's always felt that way.
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>>740734996
>>740735163
>>740735179
>>740735328
>>740735967
>>740735973
>>740736041
>>740738365
>>740739857
>>740740117
you guys are beyond fucking retarded. its that "yozora" character from the verum rex game and ending cutscene.
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I enjoyed KH3 but I read KHUX’s story a few months after it came out and unironically liked it quite a bit more than KH3’s so I am actually kind of excited that the new arc is based off all of that, it needs a compilation movie though and ML needs to be incorporated directly into KH4
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>>740744575
>5.5 HOURS of mandatory lore with no gameplay
When I was 6 years old, beating up Captain Hook on my PS2, I didn't think I'd be next to a shoulder this greasy someday.
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>>740744487
>kh2 wasnt floaty at all
beyond retarded.
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>>740744893
Are you fucking blind? That doesn't even remotely look like him.
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>>740744971
I never said "at all" you piece of shit, come see me in the street I'll show you floaty combat
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>>740744893
What are you on and can you pass some?
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>>740745052
While that anon is a retard, you can't use how Yozora looked in KH3 as what he should look like in Quadratum since Yozora said that wasn't what he normally looks like.
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>>740743268
Weren't you nerds saying that already after the KH3 dlc?
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>>740745197
Yes this is following up on that
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If they want a really good trailer, they'll end up cheating with this. Crack for old KH fags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGidvt4NTPI&list=RDKGidvt4NTP
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So what's the gold shit he's summoning, any guesses?
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>>740741485
How much y'all want to bet that SE or Disney will sell real life versions of those shoes once the game releases? Also...

>no socks
Honestly, I don't get the appeal of wearing shoes barefooted.
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>>740744487
the trailer is literally just "it exists and we are working on it"

there is nothing to fucking go by. anything could change.
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BRING BACK VERSUS XIII
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I like how Sora always gets reverted to level 1, but he ALWAYS has some new tricks. Summoning chains is cool. Riding on a bunch of golden Keyblades is cool. He totally stole those abilities from previous boss fights.
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>>740745517
>No socks

There is such a thing as ankle socks and they're pretty common. I wear them. They're socks, like the name implies, that stop right past the ankle, so it gives off the illusion that you aren't wearing socks.
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>>740745624
My headcanon is that he keeps trying to copy what Terra did in KH2FM after getting shit on by him so many times
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wait i saw the trailer and it looks like they doubled down on kh3's style and combat, it looks terrible
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>playing KH4
>the encounter starts playing
yep this is kino

https://youtu.be/Klb_aF2PkDo?si=fr0dcPQeu7-WF9B_
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>>740745878
kh3's combat got fixed in the updates and the new trailer is literally a fucking beta thrown together.
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>>740745871
Nah, Sora won in one shot. He's not a scrub like you. Sora was never inferior to Terra.
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I hope he can dual wield off the bat. Like that really should be a normal ability for him now.
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>>740746073
Sora could only duel wield because he had two hearts inside of him, Ventus and his own. They're gonna have to come up with a new reason why he can duel wield
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>>740746213
he can dual wield in KH3 through a formchange
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>>740745990
Sora jobs constantly dude
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>>740741485
>glowing shoes
tron?
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im seeing a lot of people itt who refuse to accept that kingdom hearts died a decade ago and its been time to move on
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>>740746213
Ven can dual-wield on his own. Sora should be able to do the sane thing.
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>>740734845
Nomura kinorino
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>>740746489
Brother, if anybody is in here discussing the intricacies of a new trailer for KH4 then they're either a lifer or fooling themselves.
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>>740746489
clearly didn't, since it just got a new trailer for a new game you retard
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>>740746768
it did die. you just died too and are in hell with it.
the game will be shit btw.
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>>740744893
You don't know SHIT
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>>740746907
lmfao
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>>740746907
i'm well alive and the series shits all over every game you think is good, including KH3. kys
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>>740745426
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>>740747005
>, including KH3
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Is this keyblade from Moana or Elemental?
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>>740745426
I fell out of interest during the gulf of time between 2 and 3 but speaking of trailers, I still think [deep dive] was the best I've ever seen. Certainly memorable. Maybe it was the mystery and the pure level of chuuni when I was ~14.
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>>740745426
they'll use that for the series revival in 20 years.
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KH3 ruined KH's lore.
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>>740747469
I’m struggling to remember what KH3 added to the lore besides the final world and Yozora
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Anyone remember that (pre-KH3?) googledoc that tried to explain the series?
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>>740747627
Ansem (Xehanort) held some amnesiac girl in his basement. Lea and Isa snuck in to visit her (somehow, and never told anyone about the human experiments going on). She vanished one day, and then they got caught by Ansem-Xehanort and turned into Nobodies. Nobody knows who this girl is, and Nomura himself probably forgot that he introduced such a plotline in 3 to begin with.
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>>740747895
Ah subject x, it was probably Skuld though
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>>740747895
i vaguely remember this cutscene. crazy
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>>740747798
Anon, there were several of those schizo docs...
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>>740744140
>THIS would be the last straw
Yeah OK fag.
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>>740745130
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Young Xehanort is sexy
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>>740748408
That's your son, you sick fuck.
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>>740746213
Nigger that’s called speculation
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>>740747237
They keychain is the tell
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>>740746213
>ignoring the fact nobodies grew their own hearts, meaning he had four
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>>740748954
>They keychain
It's refreshing to see a black gamer on /v/. If anything, I'll be the one in the cotton field. =)
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>>740743627
You or you wouldn’t be posting on a thread eight games In
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>>740745908
https://youtu.be/5exZQ0oGW6c?si=l9pKv5dTVzw6Kxsq
Is the real shit although I don't think they can sell it anymore with how over the top flashy and anime Sora's fighting style is now.
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>>740739574
The Masketta Man
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>>740743627
Hey I'm only 28 I'm still young!
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>>740734845
Noctis won
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I hope they drop the Disney slop in the next game.
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>>740735373
New to KH huh?
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>>740735373
That's the power of SHITicht 2.
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>>740742541
KH3 just didn't live up to the hype I had back when I was in middle school. Took way too long for too little. Shame. The menu vibe and music in KH1/2 is still so nostalgic.
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>>740744213
>A bunch of KH3 teasers showed Mysterious Tower
>Cut from the game
Will it happen again?
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>>740734845
Xehanort/Sora fujos won.
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>>740735785
>play flash game
no
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>>740752602
Hopefully not, I mean we waited ages just to get pretty much a slightly longer version of the original reveal. They're absolutely holding themself back, at least so far.
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>>740744487
Honestly it looked the exact same as KH3 to me
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>>740746213
Sora and Roxas could both do it in KH3. They're just built different
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>Sora can make a molten rock ramp then reaction command skateboard off it into a big slam finisher
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>>740735179
>yaoi
Hands aren't big enough.
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>>740743748
Wish they spent all this time making ux and dark road into fun games to play instead of dicking around with some shitty gps game
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>Flowmotion is now activated with R2 instead of being automatic
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>>740738660
Yes it is jank. It looks like the physics is based off KH3. KH2 will remain unsurpassed.
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>>740741485
Ugh Nomura's desire to make black and red to be sora's primary colors now sucks.
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>>740755337
Trust me it makes perfect sense
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>>740755337
Those were his colors from the start though.
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>>740754940
Pretty pleased with the build menu so far from the little we've seen. Its nice seeing swinging the keyblade be tied to multiple face buttons outside of launchers
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>>740742517
its still sephiroth fucking around
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>>740752602
KH4 hasn’t shown enough for you to know what’s cut. All we’ve seen are Quadratum, Mickey in Scala, Donald and Goody in the Olympus underworld, and presumably a vague shot of Endor. KH3 was showing a new world every 6-12 months
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>>740734845
Man, sora doesn't have clown shoes anymore huh.
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>It only looks like realistic pasteurized shit because it's quadrantum, it's low effort shit by lore definition!
>it's still alpha, please, trusterino squarenino!
When, in reality, the final product will be shit equivalent to >>740754940.
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>>740756629
I'd say the game won't have Sora acting like a clown anymore, but I think it will while it has Disney characters hanging around, and it's only a matter of time until those guys are gone too.
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>>740743087
Why are you always posting stupid uneducated takes?
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>>740757678
Why do you keep posting this lil bro do you think you cooked
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>>740734845
what i see: Nomura being a hack
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>>740742403
>MoM set up that Terranort was investigating Unreality as a concept and experimenting with Kairi to do so.
What the fuck is wrong with Nomura
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>>740755805
red yes black no. His Kh2 outfit managed to balance the black
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>>740760721
His jacket was black in KH1. KH2 went overboard with the black.
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>>740739262
Why the fuck won't they let him? Meanwhile lightning got 3 fucking games
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>>740761209
>his jacket was black
not even, half of it is white
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>>740761404
>half
Only the sleeves. The front, back, and hoodie were black to give him a mickey color with the red pants and yellow shoes.
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>>740761552
the white sleeves covers a lot space of his upper body
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>>740754940
They figured that out since Dissidia 1. I never understood why the movement felt so downgraded in KH3
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>>740761686
Only like 1/4, the black part is always front and center to the camera.
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>>740761820
his huge gloves are also white
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>>740762039
Which has black on them.
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So they really haven't spent any of the last few years on the combat huh? Just the same terrible physics with the floaty ass combat and I'm sure equally stupid bullshit AI with no revenge mechanics as usual. How do they not ever learn any lessons from these games and just keep making the same horrible combat every entry since bbs?
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>>740762538
lol
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>>740734845
Dumbass retard with broken umbrella.
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>>740761236
Doing so would be them admitting pulling him from the project and rushing it out with Tabata was a mistake. It sold really well, but the game itself was reviewed rather poorly, within the fanbase it was pretty hated, some even say it is worse than XIII. There a few hard die fans, but nothing really moved the needle. Forcing it to be released during the PS4's life cycle was a huge mistake, looking back. The project was simply too big.
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>>740762963
It's not just big, it's massive
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>>740735629
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>>740754940
you do realize you can turn off flowmotion abilities in KH3 by going to your abilities menu and unequip them?
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>>740763353
You DO realise you're a monkey fucking nigger troglodyte?
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>>740734845
I've played every KH game and I still have no clue what it's even about anymore
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>>740763353
You can only turn off flowmotion attacks. You can't turn off the wall run or rail ride, which is where the problem lies.
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>>740763710
no they aren't. the real issue was aero causing flowmo and interact-able objects.
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>>740762963
Anon, XV has higher verified user reviews than XVI and XIII, and even VIIR/Rebirth depending on the platform (IIRC higher on Steam, about the same on PSN). The whiners are the very definition of vocal minority in this case.
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>>740734845
To be optimistic would you play a Kingdom Hearts game where Sora explores Non Disney worlds? That is Square Enix and Disney are collaborating with other companies. Always wanted Sora to explore Capcom worlds and the closest thing to that is Sora in Smash.
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>>740764259
>sora versus kazuya
shits unreal
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>>740743627
I'm 21 faggot, Kingdom Hearts I & II were my first vidya ever.
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>>740734996
Those dogshit ass robes need to fuck off finally
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>>740764915
>KH1 and 2 having the osaka team combat system
No. KH1 and 2 already feel timeless to me, and I don't want a team or a company who even can't make KH1-level combat touching those two classic games. Squarenix can't make or remake KH1 and 2 even if they want to because they know they can't.
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>>740764259
>Kingdom Hearts game where Sora explores Non Disney worlds?
That's like making a Call Of Duty game where you can't shoot
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You guys are all 40+. Stop obsessing over this garbage franchise. KH3 should have been a lesson.
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>>740765597
>Nooo stop enjoying life and playing/doing stuff you like.
You have a sad life anon
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>>740738660
is than cat okay?!
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>>740765597
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>>740742403
>this is more than x—it's y
holy AIslop
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>>740752754
ok zoomer
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>>740765597
I'm a zoomer though
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>>740744487
please understand new engine is getting worked on
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>>740752238
>New to KH huh?
retarded much?
kh3s artstyle was hideous
the ps2 games were cute tho
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>>740764259
Disney is not attractive anymore. It became more a burden
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>>740764259
>Sora explores Non Disney worlds
Just like tron? or pirates of the carribean?
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>>740743042
Purgatory
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>>740766892
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>>740767089
That looks absolutely hideous like some fanfic deviantart 3D fanproject
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>>740734845
Fragile's umbrella? He's not holding it to keep the rain off, the rain is coming from the opposite direction.
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>>740734845
I hate you Nomura, you drop one trailer and I'm back to autistically theorizing about new KH lore. This ride is never going to end get out of my head.
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>>740745426
Already did that with his smash trailer
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2.8 was better than 3.
I love Aqua.
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>>740734845
>let me hold le broken umbrella that is clealry not blocking any rain over you despite the fact that you are le wet already
japs are fucking retarded
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>>740767170
nta but it looks good to me. what are 3 non-KH games you believe has good artstyles?
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>>740747237
Where is this from?? The trailer didn't have a hud in it
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>>740767170
Thoughts?
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>>740767089
zamn I just realized we never see porn of old man xehanort..
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>>740743150
How the fuck do you people make any sense of these jrpg tier stories? It's all bullshit. Is this the ONLY media you consume? Is it autism?
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>>740767270
Based ps cutscene
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>>740767270
WHEN YOU WALK AWAY
YOU DONT HEAR ME SAY
PLEAAAAAAASE OH BAAAAAABY DONT GO
>>740767089
*wubwub kingdom hearts wub wub*
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>>740767696
>>740767718
That is from Dream Drop Distance's OP you fucking phonies!
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>>740734845

I don't want this gay shit I want Versus XIII goddamnit. GIVE US VERUM REX SQUARE
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>>740767872
You now remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU

>17 years ago
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>>740767934
My heart won't let go
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>>740762085
Doesn't make them his primary color. The black is only there as complimentary and color breaks
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If you want to know the backstory of the mobile games, just listen them on youtube. I think most of them were fan dubbed
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>>740734845
nigga ain't doin shit with that umbrella
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>>740745624
I like it too.
Really showcases that he still is battle hardened vet with tons of experience despite losing all his powers.
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>favorite org member claws his way to relevancy from the bottom rung and finally gets some time to shine
LOOK WHO'S ON TOP OF THE GAME
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>>740767781
Kek
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>>740768679
Based taste anon. Just waiting for the other one to return personally
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>>740768679
What do you think the trump card he gave Sora was?
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>>740768679
wtf did they do to luxord he looks like shit
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>>740768979
>inb4 the reasoning turns out to be boring and it just ends up being another thing they use to track Sora into Quadratum like the Recusant's Vigil
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>>740768979
A keycard
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>>740769218
CARLOS
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>>740747237
If it was from Moana the keychain would probably be that little green rock thing the entire story was about and I've never seen Elemental
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>>740768679
This man.. looks familiar...
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>>740740394
yeah but now he's super dead because he broke some law of space-time-heart or something
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>>740747237
>>740769392
>moana keyblade
>without Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's big fucking fish hook incorporated into its design somewhere
That's gotta belong to Elemental.
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The Kingdom Hearts series follows a young boy named Ricardo who wields a magical hammer called the “Heart Basher.” He teams up with Disney characters like Goofy the cat and Donald Duck the turtle to stop a group of villains known as the “Nobodies of Darkness,” who want to turn all worlds into broccoli. Along the way, Ricardo loses his memory after eating a bad ice cream, and a witch named Maleficent turns into a friendly unicorn to help him find a magical key that is actually a spoon. The main enemy is a man in a black coat named Xylophone, who keeps shouting about “emptiness” because he lost his pet frog.

In the second game, Ricardo discovers he is actually a robot built by a wizard named Yen Sid, who lives inside a teapot. To defeat Xylophone, Ricardo must collect seven pieces of a glowing puzzle shaped like a hamburger, but each piece is hidden inside a different Disney ride, like the “Mad Tea Party” or “It’s a Small World” jail. The final battle takes place on a beach made of marshmallows, where Xylophone reveals he just wanted a hug. Ricardo wins by throwing his spoon key into the ocean, which accidentally makes all the characters turn into musical instruments, and they end the story by playing a polka song about friendship.
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>>740734845
Can i enjoy these games while not being a fujo?
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>>740741485
I would have inverted the yellow and black on the shoes.
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>>740769824
>Can i enjoy these games
No.
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>>740734845
I wouldn't go all in saying it's Young Xehanort, considering it's Nomura and Missing Link had these silver-haired guys.
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Was Luxord’s whole game gimmick because he knew he was in a (from his perspective) fictional world? Then again, I feel like he might’ve lost his memory.
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>>740769923
Nah he just like that
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>>740769824
1 and 2 were objectively some of the best action rpgs of their time if no the best, everything else you need to be really into the series to enjoy but 1 and 2 are simply good games give them a try
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>>740734845
The photorealism and fantasy aesthetics really don't match. That whole trailer was jarring as fuck. The usual Nomura panface characters also disgust me to no end.
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>>740769918
bro they've already posted two different artworks of young xehanort with the umbrella
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>>740739574
kek this retard is still wearing his face diaper in 2026
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>>740769824
Like the other anon said.
1 and 2 are legit good.
Though there is a game that came out between kh1 and kh2 on the gba that you need to play.
It starts off right where kh1 ended and ends pretty much where kh2 begins.
The ps2 version that is bundled in the collection plays like ass so either try out the gba version or watch a cutscene collection on youtube after you finish 1.
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Up
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>>740743451
I don't, they were already very clearly something else.
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>>740735373
Compare FF7R2 normal versions to the new port to see how compromised it is by the platform. They'll be doing the same shit here.
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>>740768679
Nomura-san...
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>>740770270
>The photorealism and fantasy aesthetics really don't match
that's based but only if it turns out to be the whole point
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>>740738660
Probably because it was made for Nintendo Switch 2 which has PS3 hardware
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>>740764259
Wreck it Ralph had Street Fighter, Sonic etc. Too but they justcouldnt show it in the mobile game it was in. And probably a real game.
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>>740765597
Never.
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>>740775090
that imagine is the kh i remember
its nothing like that now
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>>740769824
Yes. There's plenty of cute girls in the series.
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>>740734845
>retards still over analyzing KH story as if it wasnt written up on the spot by a schizo jap
This series only does well due to being a blend of disney and weeb shit.
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>>740776068
i enjoyed the combat in 1 and 2
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>>740765712
>cat
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KH4 being on the Switch 2 sort of worries me. Isn't the Switch 2 weak as fuck? Does that mean they're going to have to gimp KH4 so it can run on it?
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possibly shit take incoming: I wish they stuck with the 2D art style, refining it instead of going Not-Unreal. I know it was pretty much mandated by Disney to make their Pixar franchises pop, but every gacha game these days mogs KH3 visually.
Hell, if they really wanted they could have used both - the use of different art styles in 2 was so much fun.
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>>740734845
they're foreshadowing something really bad will happen to sora, he's not gonna survive the prologue, is he?
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>>740764259
>Sora explores Non Disney worlds
him exploring other video game worlds would be much more fun than gay disney. they could pick the 10 most iconic and influential video games in history and revisit them. but that would be much harder to pull off because of copyright issues and would require a lot more time doing convincing than having a single partner like with disney. another good alternative would be revisiting iconic locations across final fantasy franchise and other dormant IPs like parasite eve.
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>>740734845
Imagine how kino Quadratum would be if they brought out dead FF characters that fit the aesthetic like old Noctis and Emet-Selch in a suit.
I know they won't since it just seems to be the OC land for this game but it sucks that the FF crossover aspect just isn't much of a thing anymore I wanna see more of that.
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>>740778602
He's already dead, bro
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>>740774141
He will never ever get over it and hes based for that.
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>>740779814
>but it sucks that the FF crossover aspect just isn't much of a thing anymore I wanna see more of that.
Dude.
Yes.
Kingdom hearts without the presence f final fantasy just isn't kingdom hearts to me. It fucking sucks how much that side of the franchise has been left to the wayside.
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>>740735967
KH is actually two boys playing chess (the cool Nomura kind, not the gay normal kind)
Xehanort lost to Eraqus and now it's time for a rematch which is also why Sora is now in a new world. He's the piece that got transferred to the new match
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>>740779862
technically he's not "dead", he was banished into "unreality" (funny name considering it looks like UE5 slop) as a punishment for breaking the laws of the universe. what I meant is if nomura will be forced to reshape him into a different character in order to bring "him" back reborn or the whole freaking game will be set in this shitty UE5 world? nobody want's this. lmao
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>>740780267
do people really find any of this dumb shit engaging
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>>740780551
Everyone who still cares is in it for the ride.
Back then people thought that the story was going somewhere but III was so shit that nobody really cares. Like it's not so bad to get angry at it, it's just typical Nomura wank.
Series peaked with the second game and the japanese exclusive expanded version with new content, added a bunch of mystery niggas and some vague messages so teens really got into it.
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>>740780782
>typical Nomura wank
No it goes way beyond that when you make the story of an EOSed mobile game an integral part of your lore
People just gave up on trying to understand what the fuck is happening, and the game gave up on explaining and just settled for force feeding us crappy modern Disney movies
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>>740763353
>>740763390
Holy shit. I literally busted out laughing and ran out of breath at this reply. He fucking destroyed your ass, anon. Absolutely hilarious stuff, kek.
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>>740738660
I'm betting that a lot of what we saw in the trailer is last minute decisions due to the cancelled mobile game, nomura will probably cram the story of missing link into the intro segment and what we saw are fragments of it
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>>740780782
But it's not going anywhere. It's never going to gpo anywhere, the whole point is to string you along with new mysteries that never mattered before. The story was over in KH2.
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>>740767089
I thought this was from some SFM porn video of old xehanort fucking Kairi which sound hot desu
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>>740767290
>>740781079
>See disgusting shriveled old man next to cute young girl
>Imagine them having sex immediately
Eeerm anons?
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>>740781192
You're not a true coomer and porn addict, anon. It's fine. Lots of hentai shows old men fucking young girls, and I guess after a while you come to develop a fetish for it. Some people actually get off to the "ugly bastard" fetish.
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>>740780551
Yes! Sometimes I need a convoluted narrative to get off.
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>>740734845
idk looks like the gayest shit in kingdom hearts and that's saying something
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What is this progression called
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>>740783610
Aging
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>>740783670
When will Sora be thinning like me...
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>>740783610
Soul removal
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>>740735967
>Sora died
>Runs into Xehanort who is also dead

What's weird about it?
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>>740734845
Imagine if we had gotten a Disney x Final Fantasy crossover, with ZERO OCs.
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>>740780892
It's not, you can't make sense of KH2 without playing the gba game.
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Why does this look like a UE Student project with stock project.
>hurrdurr switch 2 trailer
The PS5 trailer is not that much different
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>>740785301
Because your mum gay
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>>740783610
painmaxxing
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>>740735973
30. New. Characters.
returning from the mobile games
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>>740783610
Unreal Effect
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where's my nigga Luxu
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>>740743275
In the first trailer for 4 Strelitzia literally calls it "the afterlife"
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I want everyone to take a moment to thank the Switch 2 for forcing Square to develop a product that can actually ship, because Sony exclusivity and graphics whoring was making things take too damn long. Thank you Switch 2
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104 building really feels like salt in the wound
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>>740785663
He probably body hopped again. Braig was getting old.
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>>740734845
A Xenosaga 2 type abomination.
Nobody ever fucking learns.
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>>740734845
This looks like Versus XIII with KH3's combat.
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Why do I find this less exciting than KH3?
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I think the [CURRENT YEAR] setting isn't doing anything for me.
San Fransokyo was already one of my least favorite worlds in 3
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>>740785785
From her perspective she died so yeah, of course she would think that. If it was the afterlife why are people still wandering around working dead end jobs?
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>>740780551
>Filtered by a neurotypical mind
Weak
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>>740734845
I’m fartready shart zehanort
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>>740739574
Notcus
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>not that fragile
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>>740774141
>>740779932
Wouldn't he be the Cor equivalent?
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>>740734845
you try to shelter someone from the rain but you are REALLY bad at it
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>>740745628
Do you keep them on or take them off when your boyfriend is fucking you in the ass?
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>>740735967
He's done with old man Xehanort, probably cause they need to keep recasting him. Young Xehanort is still on the table and is important to the whole mobile game lore shit due to his connection to MoM, Player and Possibly Skuld.
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>>740744893
Yozora is supposed to look like riku in his world.>>740745154
I forget where its implied or explained though.
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>>740768679
I hope they don't use his KH2 fight gimmick for another data fight in this game. He needs some variety in his encounters if he's just gonna keep coming back.
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>>740783610
losing sovl
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>>740783610
Why did they give Sora a massive jew schnoz
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>>740789301
I blame the lighting in the render
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The japanese have turned on KH4
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>>740767254
The Nintendo Direct presentation had the HUD. Enjoy my shitty observation
>Build appears to be tied to a shortcut menu, allowing you to flow in and out of Build actions
>Spend Build meter on B and A actions to proc Situation Command
>Use Situation Command to alter B and/or A attack(s)
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>>740769824
You’ll stick around for the completely absurd plot and god tier music
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>>740789918
>>Use Situation Command to alter B and/or A attack(s)
wrong they're finishers
the A/B attacks change as you combo so it's basically choosing to end the combo vs extending for more damage and a bigger situation command

For example the combo in the presentation was Lava Slash > Lava Slash > Igneous Impact > Situation Command they used too quick for me to read

There's definitely gonna be varied combo routes
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>>740747237
It's a volcano on the key-chain so it can be 50/50. But Volcano's the most prominent feature in the Firelands in Elemental. But the film didn't really do much with that land outside of flashbacks.

Meanwhile Moana has the whole volcano demi-god. Do keychains usually reflect a movies villain?
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>>740790506
They can be practically anything associated with the film
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>>740790249
I wonder if there will be different use cases for unique combo routes. Build looks like a significantly better version of form changes and I hope that Sora's other mechanics actually synergize with his core kit instead of being obnoxious mini-games.
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>>740790653
Different utility would be the most obvious, like AoE vs single target or air vs ground
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>>740786061
No he got Norted not old. He's too cool and recognizable to throw away unless they make it a big cutscene
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>>740789918
Honestly, the way the Build and Flowmotion systems seem to work in the trailer is my #1 sourc eof hopium for this game. Making Formchanges something you can just access attacks from on a whim by holding the shortcut button and spending meter is fucking based, and the whole "NEW BUILD" popup from the trailer makes me wonder if it's some Tales or Re:Coded-type shit where you learn new attacks as you use a specific Keyblade.
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>>740744893
this looks like fucking yazora to you?
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>>740791381
Luxu has already had 4 bodies. Having him body snatch somebody else makes for good drama.
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>>740743748
what was missing link supposed to be? is it a follow up to khux? khux reexplained for a new audience in the west?
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>>740791948
Player's second life in Scala ad Caelum after the keyblade war, alongside what happened to brain after Luxu stole his body and sent him into the future.
Characters were astral projecting to travel long distances. What was scala ad caelum like in its prime? Why did player adopt xehanort and raise him on destiny islands?
It was in between union cross and dark road and was answering questions about union cross characters while introducing its own cast and plot.
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>>740791948
https://youtu.be/gxOGWd6LoyY?si=GjkiEs9nsk7zmUR7
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>>740734845
Why is our boy Sora in full DESPAIR mode?
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>>740792218
>The stories of Kingdom Hearts χ and Kingdom Hearts III were written at the same time, and thus share a strong connection. Despite this strong link, it was described by Tetsuya Nomura as a title where story was not the focus, and that its content was completely separate from the main series, making it accessible for newcomers.
and now this is supposed to be mandatory homework for kh4?
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>>740791468
Now that I think about it, the way Build functioned in the trailer almost reminds me of Bloodraven form in Ninja Gaiden 4.
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>>740791468
i'm pretty hyped that it's not some bullshit like attractions, but rather just pure keyblade gameplay
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>>740793026
I doubt it'll be much. They expect you to know who the Foretellers and MoM are from Back-cover.
Vali can probably be excused with a off-hand comment about Young Xehanort explaining he was one of the upper classman at the school he went. Strelitizia is bound to info-dump her shit for new-comers and the Marluxia connection.
The Missing Link characters are essentially going to be OC's for this game as ML got canned, so just like how CM and KH2 tripled the core cast.
Anything involving Player, Ephemer, Skuld and the Dandilions can be info dumped by Mickey when he dungeon crawls through Scala.
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>>740735629
>Yeah sorry
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>>740734845
Hot dogshit for tendiecucks, looks worse than KH3.
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>>740795035
Seething SNOY
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>>740795035
im gonna pee on you
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>>740794718
The problem is that a lot of the info dumping will have to be heavily hamfisted and lengthy for any of it to make sense. MoM's entire backstory is tied to KHUX and he outright explains it to Luxu. He can technically do the same to Sora but you would then need to explain Darkness, context of the original Keyblade War MoM was part of from that discussion, and more.

Another big issue is that nothing will have any payoff for anyone who hasn't played KHUX. All of it was set up in KHUX and they'd have to give Sora a reason to care for it on top of the original reason for anyone to care. Ventus in particular is going to be a complete mess beacuase he personally knows Lauriam, Elrena, Skuld, and Brain, and then he also knew Ephemer and his Chirithy is still around.

Chirithy can at least explain what Dream Eaters are to Sora since that's fairly simple, and they can do that to lead to Ava coming back with the Dandelions or something so it doesn't need to be explained in detail, but so much has to be explained.
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>>740740808
Not fan fiction, but Unreality.



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