What went wrong?
screen crunch
theres no crash 5 or 6
XThat's the entire plot
They made Zero look gay
Nothing. The zero games are good.
>>740741286>4 games and two spinoff games nothing
>what if we made a Mega Man game where we didn't replenish your lives upon game over?>what if we made a MM game where you can give up on levels and make them permanently inaccesible?>what if we made a MM game where we didn't give you any indication on the theme and boss's weakness in the level select screen?>what if we made a MM game where you had to grind your weapons even to just exploit weaknesses?>what if we made a MM game where health upgrades and subtanks were locked behind obnoxious grinding?
>mega man zero>you only play as zero, not mega man
>>740741286There wasnt anymore installments after ZXA
>>740742304kill yourself frogslop
>>740742228this is why this series is so obnoxious to play through consecutively, having to grind for shit in each game is just so goddamn annoying.
>>740742228thats what makes it so badass. yo need to desperately conserve resources and grind up zero's power to face powerful foes
>>740742414bet you jizz over leon, raiden and alucard too don't you fagwad.
>>740741286The series ended after ZXA
>>740741286I liked the Zero games more than mainline and Xthe megaman games(zero,BN,SF,ZX,etc) on GBA and DS are probably the best in the franchise
>>740742346you got any real counter arguments, buddy-boy?
>>740741286No Ciel games or BN7?
There were only 4 of them.
>>740742481You don't even really need to manage anything. Most of the games just fall on memorization.
>>740747004>Ciel games inspire by death of SupermanKino...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T58ZoidA874
>>740741286>Inticreates There's your problem.
>>740742228KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>740748536>Dude bad game design kinooooooooPipe down latinx
I had a vision for MMBN7 once>Lan's son Patch is a bully at school because his dad is a big shot and they're rich so he treats others poorly.>Realizes he's lonely. Even young teacher Cial or classmates Ciel depended which version, saw him having issues>Asks dad for his custom Navi.>Lan punishes Patch by giving X and Vile to his soon to be rival.>Patch gets depressed, feels betrayed etc.>Lan gives him Zero.exe instead. A virus turned navi in a reformatting experiment to try and solve the virus issues.>Patch and Zero.exe are both treated with mistrust. Other navis don't trust Zero because he was a virus.>Slowly learn to redeem themselves and save the world.>Megaman Battle Network Z (the 7 is inside the Z in the logo)
>>740741286They never fully fixed it, though they got a little closer each time. The first one is an absolute clusterfuck of contrasting concepts, the cyber elves working against the ranking systems and the hub exploration/level grinding working against the otherwise smooth platforming. It felt schizophrenic, and the games never completely got away from that feeling. 4 did come close to solving it, I'll give it that.
>>740751457>ranking systemsThat was probably the dumbest part when they had the skills tied to the ranking.
>>740741286aztec falcon was too hard
>>740752203Pathetic. I stuck at train and spike boss.
>>740741286inti creates was never good
>>740753062Blaster Master Zero 2 was excellent.
>>740753361MN9 have potential
>>740741286The best Mega Man series and I don't understand the cope from Mega Man X fans about how hard it is, how they got raped etc when the Zero games are way easier anyway
>>740742228>What if we made a good megaman game
>>740754149>about how hard it isAside from the shitters who whine about Aztec Falcon, it's usually people who are trying to S rank the games who say they're actually hard. Anyone can faceroll using elves, you're just playing shittier X at that point.
>>740749779Patch's navi would probably be a girl designed to be Hub and Roll's daughter.Her name is Sys.
>>740754756Rock and Roll sibling are back
>>740741286absolutely nothing, literally the best game in the entire megaman franchise
>>740742414>having to actually play videogames is so damn unbearablewe already knew this about you, faggot who doesn't fucking play videogames, you didn't have to announce it
>>740754149i'm a huge fan of mega man x1, but only x1, the rest in the x series are literal dogshit besides 4 which is just "ok" and zero 1 is by far and away the best game in the entire mega man franchise and it isn't even close
Brought the collection for ps5. Couldn't even get passed the 1st few stages. The camera sucks, I can't see any enemies in front of me. Can't avoid what I can't see, especially in the platforming parts. Any setting I'm not aware of that could let me see more?
>>740757075Anon, I don't even like MMZ and I still cannot think of a reason to like 1 more than 2.
>>740741286
>>740757196To answer the question, no, but to be fair the first game is particularly bad about offscreen gotchas. It remains an issue, but never as bad as in the first game. Personally, I think the ZX games are much better despite them being fairly middling as Metroidvanias.
>>740757383>WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>740741286it was too based for gay retards
>>740759986it still is
I started MMSF2 and I just beat Phantom Hyde. When does the game start becoming bad? I heard this one is the most hated entry.
>>740741286Remains a based filter for retards who think they're hot shit because they beat some Fromslop game
>>740742061I've been saying this shit for YEARS!
>>740742061he looks hawt
Nothing
>>740741380This, and it didn't take until 2 for the level designers to fuck-off with dropping shit on you from directly off screen.
>>740742061They made him look awesome and mobile, vs. fat-boots-McGee with green tits in later MMX.
>>740761772>>740742061Zero in the X series has a pair of green boobs. They made him less gay if anything.
>>740765115>>740766228He looks like a gay little twink. A complete disgrace to the real Zero
>>740766429What would be a good compromise between the two styles?Genuine question, I'm curious
>>740766601Impossible, too different. They wanted some grade school twink.
>>740766647Not true actually. They started with the idea of a militarized look. Had to keep it cutesy for ratings.
>>740766752Can you post it? This is just more children.
>>740766785This is a really edgy hardcore "not cutesy" design from earlier in the concept phase
>>740766601I don't know. The Zero redesign looks like a homosexual cosplaying as Zero in a skimpy version of his outfit>Looks like he's wearing leggings because they try and define his leg muscles for some reason>Tighty whiteys have been turned into a thong>His chest goes from being a a robot chestplate to a tube top
>>740766601Give him shoulder pads and somehow make the diaper look less diapery, make his chestplate a little larger.
>>740766839Cool, looks like a shonen manga.
>>740766941You're just old
>>740766785People said the exact same things about the anime designs 30 years agoPeople were mistaking Zero for a girl 30 years agoIt's hard not to see MMZ Zero as carrying it forward
>>740754304>it's usually people who are trying to S rank the games who say they're actually hard.They're not hard. They're just tedious due to bad game design and before you start, yes I can be Aztec Falcon so find another cope. https://litter.catbox.moe/ouuk1e.mp4Megaman Zero as a whole is just shittier X.
>>740766881>make the diaper look less diaperyI don't know what people mean by that. You could argue it looks like he's wearing a diaper in both his original and updated design. You could have him simply not have whatever kind of white plastic crotch plate it's supposed to be, something like X from command mission, but is that what people want?
>>740766601the panties on male reploids in Inti Mega Man gave me an awakening.Fuck you
>>740766881the diapur is on the original man
>>740754304people aren't trying to S rank the games because they want the zero gamer cred theyre doing it because later games locked all your saber upgrades behind proving you dont actually need them. zero 1 and 4 are objectively the best games.
>>740767307>https://litter.catbox.moe/ouuk1e.mp4why would you bother posting a video where youre blatantly cheating?
>>740768829How do you cheat in the Megaman Zero collection?
>>740745574There's no arguing with your diminished mental state. Zero is the titular Mega Man in this case. If you don't get that or don't want to there's nothing more to do than rightly shit on you.
>>740766601Trade the vest for his classic samurai armored torso so he doesn't look so thin and unprotected, and give more groin protection by expanding the lower armor. You don't even have to drastically rework the colors, it's not a big leap and romhackers did it before, I just can't find a good example due to the terrible names of all those unreleased sprite hacks. X style Zero in the Zero series HAS worked, it's just the artist didn't want to try.
>>740768573The original is classic tighty whitey like Superman.MMZ is either a diaper or a thong
>>740741286didn't care about the setting, plot, characters, level design, or anythingbeat 1, 2, and I couldn't bother finishing 3pretty boring
Been playing Gravity Circuit recently, cause it's free. There are people that say the GBA MMZ games are hard. There are people that get filtered by fucking Aztec Falcon. This shit is making a solid 70% of the MMZ series feel like a joke. I expected something along the lines of The Messenger or Curse of the Moon difficulty levels but this is damn near filtering me and those never even got close
>>740745574Megaman becomes a title later on throughout the series in lore so there's your counter argument. Dumb frog poster.
>>740766601nothing, they're both kino and should remain separate, both lore and aesthetic wise
>>740766601Something like Original Zero who didn't look so bulky to start with
>>740769863I don't like gravity circuit very much, I had some trouble playing it at the start too but once you stop playing it like zero and just oonga boonga it becomes easythe level design just sucks though and is just a die respawn repeat type of game, another byproduct casualty of Celeste/meatboy game design
>>740741286The games themselves are okay, but I think it would have been better overall if Zero the character had never existed and that goes for the X series as well if that isn't clear
>>740770118Doesn't he have amnesia and never gets his memories back anyway so he might as well be an OC
>>740770153he's bitching about non-classic games, anon
>>740770153Pretty much. He's effectively Zero in name only
>>740770228No, I'm saying go back in time and scrub X1 of anything Zero, it didn't need him and we didn't need the obsession surrounding him afterward
nothingseries was the high point of megaman
>>740770857Zero is pretty cool though
Leviathan is cute
>>740766429shredding the fuck out of everything with zero on x4 is the most fun I've had with any megaman game
>>740771246Top tier Mega Man girl
>>740771246
>>740754756What Sys design
>>740748638I hate spic...
>>740771073"Pretty cool" wasn't worth having the franchise revolve around him
>>740774319Works for me
>>740774820Yeah, whatever you say Inafune. Friendly advice, don't be here next Sunday
>>740775560
>>740771246>AI slop
>>740741286skill issuefiltered>>740742228>game overjust reload your save lol>give upwhy would you do this ever this is just a failsafe for shitters>level selectthere are four elements, figuring out the weaknesses is already extremely easy and giving away what the boss looks like would only make it easier>grindyou can beat this without grinding cyberelves are a crutch/easy mode and wasting your time with grinding is punishent for not improving your skills instead>subtankssee above, you dont need subtanks either, just take some basic nurse elves (no crystals needed) with you and you can still beat the final boss without too much trouble
>>740775624Post Lan doujin
The GBA and DS Mega Man games are for homosexuals, simple as that
I am straight.
>>740769538>>740769879mega man and zero are completely different characters
>>740780194straight aheadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9avG0Jf2YPghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPR6sU4FY4A
>>740741380/thread
>>740780440See >>740769879Since apparently you're an illiterate retard.
>>740766752>Ciel resemble X>originally a cyborg
>>740769974Original Zero is cool in concept but the square shoulderpads are too good. The rest of the design is good in its simplicity though.
>>740769974I hate ai slop use his theme
>>740769974Ironically the armored Zero we see in the X series is suppose to be the original and what you see there is a copy body.
>>740780843She was going to effectively be a necromancer by using cyber elves to attack.
>>740741286DIAPER MAN ZERO
>>740741286Why is this sudden gaslit campaing to pretend that the best Mega Man series is somehow bad?
Zero looks like a girl because he was originally a girl.
>>740741286First attempt at a new idea. 2 is significantly better.
>>740783824Is it gay if he was reprogrammed to be a boy?
>>740783595Zero has always been contentious. Compared to Classic and early X, it tries to complicate the tried and true formula too much. It's kind of like they used the Playstation X games as a reference point when making these. X4 is fine because it's fast and straightforward like MMZ's base gameplay, but cyber elves and stage rankings are just reworks of shitty X5 ideas.
>>740742228The only bad thing here is the weapon levels, and you can grind them out right after the intro and back up the save these days so you never have to deal with it again.Or unlock Jackson Mode if you're not a pussy.
>>740784564It's always someone upset that Zero bruised their ego.The game is still fast and straightforward, it just calls you a cuck if you suck.
>>740784831It's not an ego thing, it's that Zero creates problems that earlier subseries didn't have. Classic and X don't give a shit if you use e-tanks and will just give you your goddamn weapons for beating a stage. Zero has to get varying shades of obtuse with all of that and for no real payoff in what it changes. It's weirder, and arguably harder, but not really better.
>>740785095>It's weird and not necessarily betterBy the same logic it's not a problem. Just strange.
>>740785281It's worse than the simple solutions that predate it. Stuff like the shops in later Classic games and permanent tanks in the X games just make more sense than Zero's reinterpretations of X5's parts and ranking systems.
>>740785095NTABut I guess personally I can put up with the Zero series weirdness because I like the setting better. Reminds me of Casshern
>>740783824No.
>>740785423>No, see, it's okay for me to just say easier = better with no real argument because uhhhh it just heckin isBitch.Z1 and Z2 are a bit harder than average, but they're also balanced differently. "You need to spend cash on an e tank and you get called a sissy for using it" is not good or bad design on its own, it's a matter of how the game is framed. Z1 and Z2 especially aren't the same kinds of accumulative power creep games X1-4 are. Your character is not Mega Man, does not copy abilities, and is a scrapper in a resistance movement who's taking each advantage he can get and getting prestige based on just how good he is. The skill based feedback plays into the mood of the game and the game is beatable by anyone who could handle X1-4.Just going "ugh, less convenient" isn't an actual discussion. Yeah, you have to put in more work for a sub tank, but the game rewards you way more for it. The bosses are far easier to beat without falling back on it than they are in the X games.
If X voice by a girl therefore he was originally a girl.
>>740766429>>740766601Let setting this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Jh6VS71kI
>>740786546that's kinda sick desualsoZero's design, both in X and MMZ is kinda goofy looking when he's standing still, but he's so dynamic in motion.
>>740786042I just don't understand why something like cyber elves and stage rankings are in the same game when they directly contradict each other's existence, or why this even needs to be the case when previous games simply didn't care, never mind the weirdness of EX skills later on. I do think Z4 did the best job of making all of these mechanics properly coexist, but it feels like Zero generally wants to be two different games at the same time.
>>740786415Women voice boys in Japanese media all the time.
>>740742061He always looked pretty gay, Bass was the cool one
>>740766601This, maybe.
>>740787126nta but theyre clearly theyre to cater to different playstyles. cyber elves are for first-timers who may be struggling with the difficulty of the game while the ranking system is for people familiar with megaman or doing repeat playthroughs. the game wants to encourage you to try the latter playstyle which is why it puts up the barrier of grinding over cyber elves so they can nudge people toward improving their skills instead without outright removing cyber elves and the option to make the games easier with them. megaman games are always short so the devs wanted to add more replay value to the game by including a ranking system.
>>740787126>why cyber elves and stage rankings are in the game when they contradict each otherI think it's the same mindset that you get in arcade games where using bombs or something hurts your score. It's meant to make the game more approachable for a first time through, but when it comes down to trying to master the game there's a specific way they intended you to play it, and they reward you for "getting good" with ranks.You see almost the exact same mechanic in other rank-based games like devil may cry, but no one makes the same complaints as with mmz in those games.
>>740787126>I just don't understand why something like cyber elves and stage rankings are in the same game when they directly contradict each other's existenceBecause they create friction and player goals without ruining game balance. The ranks (and EX skills) are bragging rights. The ranks are an objective measure of game mastery for players to shoot for on replays. The EX Skills are bonus moves to both give you a cool toy to fuck with and *very slightly* help you in continuing to master the game. The counterbalance of rank vs tools is to still let players who struggle finish the adventure while encouraging players to improve. That's why it's only crutches that hurt your rank while the toys that add to your capabilities and ability to interact don't.>or why this even needs to be the case when previous games simply didn't careBecause these are different series with different design goals. X was designed as Classic with more open levels, more mobility, and a JRPG structure. Zero is aiming to keep RPG elements while also making the character less powerful and emulating arcade experiences. It wants to reinforce replay value through openly acknowledging your play style and encouraging you to get better.I don't think it's perfect, or anything, but the idea that it's inherently wrong to antagonize the player or that creating friction is inherently bad is part of why games are so much more boring these days.
>>740788020Hi-Go work also feature officially in Rock Man X novel
>>740788043Sure, but previous games didn't need to incentivize that way, and the games narrow that gap more and more as they go on until Z4 basically lets you have your cake and eat it too. It's almost like Z1 was a mistake that took them 3 games to "fix".
>>740788043The ranking system is honestly dumb. Like sure they want you to git gud but then they lock one of the interesting parts (skills) into the latter which offer a more unique game play. But by then they're useless because the player already muscle-memorized a "better" gameplay and don't bother with it.
>>740788484It wasn't. It was however stolen by Archie comics.
>>740788751It did get stolen?
>>740788549>previous games didn't need to incentivize that wayYeah, and we see the results of that in a ton of fans not replaying games. Hence why people hype X4 when it has stages like Slash Beast and Jet Stingray and X himself plays horribly.A lot of fans treat most of the individual Mega Man games like disposable junk food instead of great games and it's really sad. I think encouraging replay the way Inti's games did (ranking systems, bonuses, little achievements in 9 and 10) is something extremely beneficial to the series. I don't see why "Well this other game didn't do it" is a reasonable argument against it.>the games narrow that gap more and more as they go on until Z4 basically lets you have your cake and eat it too.Yeah, because the feedback they kept getting was "WHY DID THE GAME CALL ME A STUPID PUSSY FAGGOT, FUCK YOU >:(" ZX and 9/10 tried different approaches, and I think it ended up making ZX way worse. The Biometal Level system is similar in concept but way too specific to be as engaging and directly punishes players for using their non-crutch tools.>It's almost like Z1 was a mistake that took them 3 games to "fix".>"See, it's bad design when new games change things, except when it isn't, because that proves prior changes were mistakes."You are trying so hard to not acknowledge that getting a C rank nettled you.
>>740788682I mean that's why Z3 makes getting a good enough rank for EX Skills fairly easy. Z2 is the only game with the problem you're attributing to the system.
>>740788348MMZ comes off a long history of games that don't care about ranks, so with that series it really is like "how is this better than what MM2 or X1 did"? DMC also isn't so brazen as to dangle a grindy mechanic like cyber elves in your face, it's as if spending enough red orbs just locks you out of an SSS rank for spending red orbs because you wanted to play with the fun things. Well, only Z1 is really like that. Later games aren't THAT awful about it, but the point persists throughout.>>740788424I get this friction in games that do it better than Z1 does. It's a little more acceptable in Z2/3 and it's basically a nonissue in Z4, but I never feel like they get it quite right. EX skills especially would be more appreciated by unskilled players, and yet prior to Z4 you have to rank whore to unlock them. That just seems like an ass backwards way of implementing one of the core tenets of Megaman as a franchise - skill acquisition. I can see it working in a pure arcade game, but it's not quite right for Megaman.
>>740789128MM9/10 are so much better than the Zero games that it's ridiculous.
>>740789297>DMC also isn't so brazen as to dangle a grindy mechanic like cyber elves in your face, it's as if spending enough red orbs just locks you out of an SSS rank for spending red orbs because you wanted to play with the fun things.Have you actually played DMC1, by any chance?Because the game absolutely punishes the shit out of you in terms of orbs if you suck and is WAY less forgiving than Z1 with its rankings.
>>740789297>It's as if spending enough red orbs just locks you out of an SSS rank for spending red orbs because you wanted to play with the fun things.You realize they literally do that, right?Green and Purple stars are the subtank equivalents and heavily penalize you. You get charged once for buying the item and charged again for using the item, as you get less currency for lower ranks.
>>740789529>>740789660I'll admit it's been a long time and I didn't like the 3 fucking Nightmare fights so I'm not keen on replaying it. Cool game otherwise.
Z1 has no boss weapons of any kind to push the element weaknesses as a replacement and kills Phantom early, thematically appropriate for his character but starves later games of a Guardian and a counterpart to the Shield BoomerangZ2 I don't like the Dark Elf as a macguffin much and X's body is kind of a shit plot point put in to retroactively explain where X went and keep him from coming back in the futureZ3 has Volteel Biblio's stage which singlehandedly keeps it from standing alongside Z2 and Z4, Weil is the only character asking if Zero is the real Zero, all of Omega's forms are insultingly easy and lead to an X5 callback with a mirror fight that's easier to handle than X5's Zero fight (somehow X2's Zero fight remains ubdefeated because of charge shots canceling each other out). Also Weil is still alive at the end, oops lol thanks InafuneZ4 is the closest to perfect of all of them, but Weil's equivalent to Pantheon grunts aren't as interesting as Pantheons and the crafting system is tacked on. I will give Z4 though that keeping the weakness triangle, removing chips, and tying elements inherently to EX skills is an elegent way of mildly depowering Zero, making EX Skills desirable, and removing the jank of EX Skills having low power and high power versions depending on whether you have their desired element equipped. Weil as the final boss kicks fucking ass on all fronts, including having a grapple point to make the Z-Knuckle still matter even in the game's last minutes
>>740789774Yeah, no, DMC1 isn't perfect either, but you see what I mean, right? Z1 and Z2 are the ones where the rankings are kinda tough, and they're still way less brutal than DMC1 and 3, Viewtful Joe 1, etc. I think you could maybe argue DMC4 and confidently argue DMC5, but those came out way later.>>740789904I don't agree with all of these but they're reasonable, thought out criticisms. Based.
>>740741286You still have to read side material to know what the fuck is even going on.
>>740790208Yeah, I would say by Z3 they were noticeably easing up. Z2's the one that probably leans hardest into playing for ranks.
>>740741286Zeros basic premise is boring
>>740790548Ultimate Armor isn't as much of a "fuck it" option as Jackson Mode, either.
>>740741286Precisely zero things went wrong.
>>740790851How so?
>>740741286I played MMBN1-6 and Star Force but avoided Zero as a kid it seemed too hard.
>>740787309X was only ever voiced by a woman in the English dub.
>>740791224>Durr utopia for humans after Le Elf Wars is corrupt n shit
>>740791596I'm sorry you get mad at racism being bad
>>740788682Z1 has no ex skills, all the rank does is give bosses a stronger EX attack if youre at rank A or S and unlock some post game bonus elf. this isnt a problem in Z2 or Z3 either. Z3 was fairly easy since satellite elves let your use the system without penalty and Z2 has elves that literally raise your rank to A so youre guaranteed to get some EX skills. Someone thats using elves to raise their health and brute froce everything doesnt really have much use for ex skills anyway.
>>740792107No anon, the game is denying me immediate gratification so it's SHIT.
>>740789904dont agree with a lot about what people have to say about Z1 but im glad Z4 is getting some respect for what it did with EX skills and the Z-Knuckle actually being cool. Elemental chips are just to strong if the game allows you to charge spam from the get go like Z3
>>740791303I will play SF if Capcom make Hope playable
>>740741286the silksong of megamans
>>740790851>>740792492Z4 in general is the most well rounded I thinkIts bosses do the most with the Mythos Reploid concept, Kraft as an "old soldier" character and chunky in the body to call back to X style reploids, Weil is the best final boss in the series
>>740791596Idk. I like the grittier post-apocalypseAnd I guess I like the symmetry between Copy X being an insane tyrant labeling innocent Reploids "Mavericks", and the true X and Zero putting him down. That's a neat angle IMO.Copy X being the actual Maverick, and Zero being labeled one.Yes, I know this is barely in the game. I still find it cool.
>>740791398>Mark Gatha is a woman
>>740793851Yes since X4.
>>740793954And Command Mission? X8? Maverick Hunter X? X was voiced in some 00s games, you know. Not by a woman.
>>740793670All Ciel fault
>>740794114Doesn't matter, you just insecure about female voice.
>>740748472Mega kino
>>740794147Its ok, she said "Im Sorry"About 500 fucking times
>>740794223>insecure about female voiceThat is funnier to me than you can possibly comprehend but still, this guy voiced X for several games:https://youtu.be/a7ZjSxRCiqg?si=piCn9ZG14zyVWuts
>>740794779>left VA for dentistsCapcom might let Lightning Sue voice X kek
>>740794779Sucks too since he's a borderline perfect X voice and MHX is the only game where he got to really shineAlso free my nigga Lucas Gilbertson, perfect Zero voice
>>740742228>what if we made a Mega Man game but it's only Zero
is the zero collection worth it? i like seeing those boss kill videos and the music
>>740780843Yes herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxMhXe7idPghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWRETuEmmFwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzjUClr_zH
>>740780478https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyyxspwc8aA
>>740766839What many people don't realize is that Zero's human head is decorative and only exists to facilitate interactions with human types. Zero's actual functional head is the "torso".
>>740797075dont do this to me. i dont need cosmic horror
>>740796713In a technical sense, it's the most accurate of the modern MM collections and should be respected as a quality port job. That said, I'm not a big fan of the Zero games personally, though I do like the ZX games.
>>740789904>Weil is still alive at the end, oops lol thanks InafuneGiven that Zero 3 was made as a finale, and Zero 4 was originally just Zero 1.5, I wonder if they intentionally left Weil alive to imply a bunch of offscreen fights between him and Zero, as the era's equivalent to Wily and Sigma. Essentially making the trilogy a prologue to a longer, unseen subseries, sort of like how Castlevania had Julius Belmont fighting Dracula offscreen in 1999.
>>740795665>Also free my nigga Lucas Gilbertson, perfect Zero voiceFuck off. Your surfer dude bro attention whore sucks as Zero.
>>740798797Lucas is a very good counterpart to Mark Gatha
>>740794284Sex with Cial.
>>740741286Gatekeeping skills to A rank.Punishing you for using cyber elves.Leviathan not sitting on my lap.
>>740798916No he's not, he's garbage. He's also human garbage that spread death rumors about Gatha when he initially up and vanished before people found out he just left to become a dentist.
>>740797075RADICAL
>>740798919>Blueberry or raspberry
>>740799000Dem numerals. Also, just buy a cat and name her Leviathan.
>>740799123>the tits were eyes all along
>>740741286>need to spend an hour grinding enemies to unlock fucking charged attacks, yes you can't charge your weapons without farming weapon exp>can't use any cool upgrades because they tank your score which locks you out of other stuffBleh, I'd rather replay the X games, thank you
>>740799305>eyes down here maverick
>>740799305>>740799570No one tell them about Duff McWhalen.
I plan on playing this soon. Any tips?
>>740800000What in the fuck are these digits.
>>740800035Play a better game.
>>740800000Witnessed
>>740800000AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>740797075>>740799123>mfw i just realized it's the wily skull no...
>>740800000AH SHITWE /whalen/ NOW BOYS
>>740800261>>740800000https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJCmfnOhqLQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCu0cbOTLs0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZfajiDs4eg
I really liked the zero artstyle. Is the artist doing anhthing these days? I used to have their website saved but it seems to be dead. Sucks that dragon marked for death was such a mid game.
I just think that the Zero series has some neat musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcXpRfbnCrk
>>740800062Iris is mother elf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Q4yZeRYX0
>>740741286Inti creates
>>740800730Yeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DalOkfbYk7Q
>>740800945No.
>>740800945Iris' fight music is one of those themes that will live rent-free in my head until I die.https://youtu.be/MN2OxtS4fIQ?si=Ad1NCdCW_6K7sigA
>>740800261>just now noticing his actual eyesFuck me.
>>740801416Queen Virgo have water dragon?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkcOukQ7Ks
>>740803286zero can handle her easily
>>740803434Sure he can.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJoJUzIhThc
>>740741286Zero become Rurouni Kenshin
X9 is dead
>>740792609I would play MILF man. It's only the next logical step after official female Mega Man and furry Mega Man cat girl cartoon
>>740805136Still would buster that.
>>740801021Inti desecrates
>>740805136would geo's mom be a good fighter like her son?>>740805391could this cat be as good as the thief we got?
Did they pussy out by not making the real X the villain?
>>740806053In conversation with Taurus, Omega said he got stronger regardless of any host.
>>740806214on one hand, yeah but on the other X is kinda too smart and experienced to go crazy over many years. a copy of him works better
>>740806214What the other anon said. X being the villain would have been shock value, but I'm really happy with the way it ended up with them using Copy X instead. In fact I really like the way Z1 handles X and Zero's friendship.
>>740806556>battle network 7>Patch's grandma Haruka dies so Lan uses her DNA, like Hub and Mega Man, to make Mega Woman>she has nips poking out of her bodysuit and big ass and titsa man can dream..........
>>740800000YOU FUCK
>>740806053Basically like evil loli Peach
>>740808434that would be amazing>>740809378cool
>>740809262RoboWoolies from Command Mission?
>>740810510Lurk moar newfag
>>740806214X being the villain would've been completely out of character for him and would have done all of his character development for the sake of shock value.
>>740810652U mad bro?
>>740810752Undone*
>>740810752It's not necessarily out of character to have a paragon become too committed to his ideals.
>>740806053Dunno. The only thief we know is fast but is made of tissue paper if you catch her.
>>740777820>billbill
>>740741380This, also your kit is stale as fuck compared to how clean Zero moved and did shit in X4-6.
>>740813704bilibili is better than youtube or whatever you watch
>>740814187How better?
>>740815498no ads for one
>>740794683Always her consequences
>>740813873>MMZ ryuenjin>activates the same way and does the same thing and is called 3 different fucking things
>>740741286No ZXCEIL
>>740800000W I T N E S S E D
>>740761585It's mostly hated because of the writing and encounter rate. As far as gameplay goes SF2 is an improvement over the first game.
>>740789128People like X4 because it's fun and doesn't have any annoying bullshit. That's literally all it takes
>>740748472>ZETREQUIEMSOVL
Dash bump
>>740800000>steal bubble crab
>>740806214it's kinda character assassination for X
>>740811656X has too much experience to ever let problems reach that point. And moreover, X was purposefully designed to NOT be overzealous with his ideals. He literally spent 100 years having his morality developed into something that wouldn't end up killing people one way or the other.
>>740826043You're just headcannoning him as infallible, because you wouldn't like to see him criticized.
>>740826421>gets criticized once>purges all reploids from society
>>740826043Probably 100 at most but definitely more than 30.
never played these games but this is why I haven't
>>740826731just use the spike chip to not die instantly
>>740826731Just don't get hit
>>740826865>Note: using the spike chip gives you a Q rank and Ciel calls you a faggot for the rest of the game
>>740826909yeah and i bet she hooks up zero and spits in his mouth
>>740826882I just told you I didn't.
>>740826421You just headcanon'd him as a paragon thoughever
>>740826987Me at a formative age getting this ending and exclaiming "Haha, oh no!" in the back of my mom's station wagon
>>740827216What do you think a paragon is?
>>740827298a person or thing viewed as a model of excellence or a perfect example of a particular quality
>>740827386Nice dictionary google-fuDescribe to me how X is *not* a paragon (and I'll qualify that I'm using the more colloquial sense of something like "a character who is a prime example of moral goodness"
>>740827568X questions and worries and doubts because he spent several decades being taught just that. Him suddenly become unflinching in his beliefs doesn't make any sense
>>740827989And on top of that becoming unflinching in an extremely authoritarian and government-aligned interpretation of Maverick, when he's the least disposed to fighting out of all the Hunters and is the first to try and extend an olive branch even when he's aware there's no mental turning back for them
>>740827989Ok. A paragon typically means "a good person" or "a good character"X doubting and questioning himself to make sure he's really doing the right thing doesn't make him less of a paragon, it makes him more of one.X being the villain of the Zero series would have been tragic, could have been in the form of classical tragedy, but it's absolutely within the ballpark that he could become convinced of beliefs that Zero ended up opposing.It's completely possible to write that kind of story. They didn't because people would have had exactly the same reaction you're having.
They definitively killed Zero at the end of MMZ4
>>740828815The downfall only works when you see it and when it is gradual. Turning the switch from good to evil is always unsatisfying
>>740828815It being possible doesn't mean it'd be good.And no, X wouldn't. A paragon of morality would not commit to wanton sacrifice, condemnation, and oppression.Copy X does that because his programming isn't to be morally good, it's to protect humanity and that's that.
>>740831107Copy X doesn't even do that because it's his programming, he does it because he was a newborn put in charge of the planet and told he was a great hero
>>740829072Z4 was originally Z1.5 and 3 was going to be the last. They wanted to get out of making MMZ so they pulled 4 only to crawl back with ZX.
>>740830419>>740831107You're both assuming X being the villain would have played out exactly like what we got in the final product with Copy X.
>>740830621if i touch her boob, will she hit me?
>>740832807It would be extremely painful
>>740832389Because it would've since it was literally a last minute change.
>>740829072Zero died as a character at the start of Z1.
>>740828815>A paragon typically means "a good person" or "a good character"EEEEEEEE. wrong, ESL retard, that's not at all what a paragon is
>>740828815>Ok. A paragon typically means "a good person" or "a good character"Dumbass.
>>740788020They look even more like giant areolae here
