I don't understand the fascination with this game. It seems like a sidegrade to overwatch and a downgrade compared to gundam evolution (RIP). Do people just play it because valve made it, or is there something I'm missing? I'd rather be playing tf2 if I had to choose a class-based valve game.
Pretty much
>people like game because its fun>autistic retards on /v/ "I JUST DONT GET ITTTTTT"
>>740751979yeah, it's not as fun as tf2 since the kill times with the regular weapons are so slow and it seems like you just need to spam abilities to do anything meaningful. rather than a meme reply, do you plan to elaborate?
>>740751848I don't play too much anymore but this game is pure crack cocain to ADHD brains. Never played a MOBA, mostly a TF2 player but there's something addictive about this game.It helps it also oozes style with a cool world and enjoyable characters. Not like the chinkslop other companies are making. While it's one of the most fun games it's also one of the most UNFUN games I've ever played. I used to be really hooked but no other game would leave me so drained, miserable and irritated. If you have a low tolerance for negativity, you'd probably hate this game
Getting in on the ground floor so 10 years from now they can talk about how much better the game was in alpha v0.0035.3328 and then was killed in alpha v0.0035.3329 so they can farm epic gamer cred points. It's an investment.
>fun movement with wall jumps sliding and airdashes>fun abilities like portal man and lashwhats not to get?
>>740752430the art is pretty good and some of the character designs look good, what attracts ADHD brains? is it the flashy colors from the various abilities?>>740752514the movement seems good and there's some fun abilities, but the actual combat itself is just kinda boring.
>>740752430That's why you gotta be positive. Bad vibes lose games and negativity is a choice. So chose to be a chill guy and stay positive :)
>>740751848Your first mistake was thinking of it as a hero shooter instead of a MOBA with a 3rd person camera
i've played 1024 matches over 600+ hours since 2024 and i have no intention of stopping
>>740752665>what attracts ADHD brains? is it the flashy colors from the various abilities?Think you might need to update your view on ADHD. My point was that it's an extremely stimulating game. The rounds are like 30 minutes plus and every second of it you're constantly wired to be doing something. Economy, fighting, objectives, rotating, buying, counter buying, denying, as well as all the movement shooting melee and ability tracking. There's NO down time except when you're dead and even then you're probably looking at your build.Even in shooters like Overwatch or TF2 there's downtime like when there are no enemies or you're just moving around, and the games are shorter too. You get mental break.I remember back in 2024 my heart used to beat so hard going into the solo lane for my fighting game tier 1v1 which would determine the rest of my 35 minute game. It's an objectively intense experience once you get into it>but the actual combat itself is just kinda boringI don't get how you can think this. One criticism about teamfights more commonly seen is that they're too much of a clusterfuck. I get how unlike shooters the shooting is less tactile (you can just hold m1 on someone and kill them instantly). More fun that Rivals though for sure despite that being more of a shooter Yeah if you waddle around not understanding anything just trying to M1 people like it's counterstrike you're not gonna like it.
I'm too old for this shit. I can't handle this ultra fast paced esport slop games like I used to.
>>740751848austitics retarded trannys wanted to collect things like tf2I have never seen a more dog shit community skill wise in any game over watch was easy to play so it made even a dog shit female player seem good. but this nah it exposes the mental furry troon retardedsalso the dev yoshi is a retard literally attention seeking fucking faggot dev
>>740753781Holy buzzwords batman
>>740753494based, I got in RIGHT after the leak, have about 1k hours in it, best moba in a while that makes /v/ mad
>>740752120Do you realise how pathetic you are when you respond to no fucks given with a second bait?
>>740753686Play McNuggets. You just sit back, throw out your instant win turrets and wall, and occasionally ult an objective.
>>740751848I've said it once, and Ill say it again, the artstyle for this game completely turns me away from this game. The characters make me cringe.
>>740754029Bit of a dumb reason to not give it a try but eh, your call.
>>740752665So in dota when you want to cross the halfway point you just right click. Maybe you right click 7 times to move the unit faster.In deadlock you zipdash-mantle-superglide-edgeboost-cornerboost-bunnyhop-instantairdash to traverse 20m of distance.Or you can just walk. But you won't.
>>740753873cry tranny cry
>740754029>filtered>yoshi intended thislmao
>>740754029Ivy is sexyou are gay
>>740753550didn't seem too intense to me, but i guess it's because i dont know all the abilities of the various classes yet. just seemed slow and boring, but i'll try it out for awhile longer to see if i end up liking it.>>740753885?
>>740754317IT'S A STONE LUIGI
>>740751848V4lv3dr0n3a are willing to eat gayben's shit. it's that simple
>>740751848is doorman dumpstered yet?
>>740754029they are even more cringe when you listen to them
>>740754029Yeah, half the characters are bad and boring. They have zero creativity except for a few And it's weird since they supposedly created Dota. For example:Sand KingClockwerkTimbersawSpirit BreakerJuggernautDark SeerWitch DoctorKunkkaAll these heroes and more, but they don't use any of those assets.Completely fucking stupid development. Instead, we get things like gun heroes and hard-hitting ults with no uniqueness to them.DURRRRY I SPAM MY SKILL DMG THEN USE ME ULT.
I find the shooting worse than Overwatch, the movement worse than defrag, and the ability usage worse than Dota. Also, the upgrades are not interesting either. Its also not fun to watch right now. Maybe it will change in the future. I could see this being fun if you were bored of overwatch and never learned to bunny hop.
>>740754616they added an item that filters most doormans below oracle
Valve started out wanting to make a successor to Dota2 , but realized there's more money in casual hero shooters, so they pivoted to that.So some people still think they're investing in learning "The Next MOBA", while most others just want a new Overwatch
>>740751848>no in your face leaderboard>no whale-driven economy>no annoying cosmetics>no out of game requirements>no need for communityYou turn it on and play. And when you turn it off its gone. So few online games still have that feel anymore.
The quality of the game is horrible. I quit Marvels after 500 hours, but I quit this game after only 10 hours.There's no reason to play deadlock over anyother game unless you like the farming aspect and towers. I also feel like the game is completely broken in the inside math-damage,hitboxes,networking ping, ect.
>>740754836You dont need to do that in any game you dork
>>740754823It's nice that the game kinda caters to both ends of the sweat spectrum. You can autistically research every item and its effects and their interactions with other items and ability point order to craft your perfect build for a high skill character. Or you can just pick seven and pick a top rated public build and do just as well.
>>740754685Dota has some of the worst character design in any video game ever. Deadlock is miles better than any other moba with their characters
>>740754836>no annoying cosmeticslmao, bro this is a Valve game.
>>740754685anon they didn't come up with those characters they ripped them straight out of dota allstarsevery hero icefrog has made after the og dota cast was in is shit
>>740754924>rivalsfag gets absolutely filtered when game requires brainpowermany such cases
>>740751848It's fun
>>740755217hows poop taste like? jeet
>>740755652Yoshi is icefrog you stupid motherfucker
>>740751848games for gays take away the name valve its doa
>fascination Its dead on arrival. Thats why they are not realiseing it because then people would see no one wants to play this.
>>740754191Cornerboosting needs to be purged. Everything else is good.
>>740755652>Early 2005 (The Guinsoo Era - Version 5.84 / 6.01): The year started with 68 heroes (34 for the Sentinel and 34 for the Scourge). When version 6.00 dropped in February, Guinsoo added a few more heroes but left many broken or unfinished before abruptly leaving the project to play World of Warcract>68 heroes >Yes, all 8 of these heroes were part of the original DotA 1 roster in the Warcraft III mod era. its like retards read something and regurgitate it in some random conversation..
>>740754924>buys tankbuster on Victor>aura always on>calls the game trashI'm not going to try and justify the sweats turning games like these into a job with how in depth builds and matchups can get but you should try at least reading the items and abilities when you're playing an ASSFAGGOTS game. You'll never have a good time if you don't at least understand why you're buying items.
>>740754924Haha oh wait I just realized you must've been playing Geist. The point still stands. Get filtered.
>>740751848>Do people just play it because valve made itYes. It's shit. It's just average hero shooter but with boring moba elements. It's DOA but people coping because it's invite only (invite means shit since you can get it piss easily).
deadlock is troon-coded
>Lost my last four matches>Dropped from Seeker IV to IIII can't cope. I'm so fucking bad at this game. I'm just a retard who can't counterplay or countershop.
>>740751848if it wasn't made by Valve nobody would care about it
>>740757726troons would
I mean its a shitty hero shooter. Why its in beta for like a decade? Anyone else churns out shit shit in a year.I am pretty sure they are afraid it will be a massive flop so they keep it in beta forever and eventually just completely ditch and delete it.
>>740754924>rivals playerI really really tried to get into rivals when I was taking a break from Deadlock. But it’s just so ass. The shooting feels so bad, the maps blow, the writing for the characters are bad too, it’s also optimised like crap. It’s clearly just poorly coded. The menus are schizophrenic as hell tooAnd despite deadlock having this reputation for toxicity, rivals from my experience was even more antisocial.Overwatch is unironically better than rivals. But I will admit the skins are sexy as hell, I bought that Hela skin and then uninstalled I don’t get how someone can sink 500 hours into it, the gameplay is just bad
>>740751848It's just moba brain wormsIf it doesn't appeal to you that's normal
>>740757924troons play it for 500 hours
>>740751848It's more mechanically demanding than overwatch and the game state is less immediately identifiable because it's a moba. It's also a better moba by far than any other 3rd person moba, and since it demands both understanding gamestate, movement and true aiming ability in some ways it's more complex than league or Dota - though due to the board state being less complex it's not more complex in all ways.Also the writing and acting isn't dogshit low nuance anime crap even when it's being campy
>>740757960You must like trannies the way you talk about them so much.
>>740752430>there's something addictive about this gameThat's the point, these games are engineered to be addictive despite being slop. That's the whole point >>740753075Literally all these games make you go down a spiral of negativeness as you play them. Past the first 50 hours nobody enjoys it, they just keep playing out of social pressure, addiction and frustration. Pro players are just a bit better at hiding it than your average teenage.If this game made you feel better about yourself you wouldn't play as much
>>740756563I know that where did I say they where different people?fucking retard
>>740751848I dont know why they're trying a formula they know is shit and will flop when they could just give TF2 a complete graphics/physics engine upgrade and call it TF3 with a $20 pricetag and instantly make game of the year.
>>740758220nobody would play that
>>740758220>I dont know why they're trying a formula they know is shit and will flopBecause at the rime they started development it might have been successful but now they can't just ditch it or else they look bad.
>>740758039found one
>>740758379Yeah this entire game is a complete face saving operation at the moment. They started with four lanes (horrible idea) now we are at three and soon we will be at one once they make street brawl the defacto game mode and this game basically become a spiritual successor to TF2.
>>740758530there will be no successor to tf2, nobody wants to play it anymore
>>740751848It's a new MOBA, and MOBAs are addicting. TF2 is also almost 20 years old.
>>740754634It's awful Millennial and Gen X writing. Where every "hard" character feels soft and unimposing.
>>740758719and yet the steam charts for deadlock and tf2 show nearly identical player counts, curious.
>>740757650you know there is a forced 50% winrate thing?>win 5 matches in a row>lose 5 in a row when you get absolutely horrid teammates, clueless what is happening around them>6th match enemy team having themit's so fucking obvious and i hate it
>>740758812only trannies and hispanic bots inhabit the tf2 wastelands
>>740758836forgot to add that im ass 4
>>740758147I enjoy it. I'm find myself constantly improving or finding something new to try. I just mute any assholes and keep on truckin. Wins and losses are meaningless. I just play to have fun.
whatever happened to matchmaking after march? i went from being paired with good players for over 1 year to just being paired with retards that always repeat the same shit"it's a free game""it's only pixels"and then proceed to complain when you're pushing instead of farming when there's a chance to push or vice-versa
>>740758836No there isn't. Matchmaking is literally win game=go up rank, lose game=go down rank. Yoshi couldn't force a twinkie on a fat kid.
>>740758725thematic consistency is key and there is none in deadlockOne of the biggest core strengths in tf2's primary cast is that, despite being stereotypical and wacky at times, they are all competent at their job and they are all some degree of psychopathic. None of the mercs are trying to fool you into thinking they're a saint only to rugpull the audience, there's no stumbling around trying to prove that are or aren't a nincompoop, they all belong, even the demoman and this is why everything that came afterwards, even the expanded lore about the administrator/pauling and especially saxton hale is dogshit
silver cookie
>>740758308>no-one would play a better graphics version of a game that's still consistently in top 20 most played games.
actually it's a gay sidegrade to marvel rivals but yes valve's name carries weight>polished>probably has unique content>long lifespan>>740757616currently 1/3 of the cast are dei coded it's really bad and valve won't rescind pockets they/them female to male shit>>740758725a lot of the character lines are cringellenial but reddit cultists defend it to the deathredditors are rabid valve fanboys
>>740759190they feel tight and consistent because there is only 9 (8 minus pyro) of them and most of them were written by chet faliszak (sp)you're not going to get that level of consistency across 40+ heroes
>>740759250cope, 3/4's of that playercount are bots meanwhile there are no bots on deadlock because there's no item economy. TF2 trannies fucking destroyed
>>740759349I've been playing TF2 for years and years and only saw like 2 bots one time.
>>740759381I only saw 2 men run a train on your mother but we know she's fucked hundreds
Huh? How can anyone be fascinated with a game that doesn’t exist? People are so silly.
It's for people that want to play an overly complicated 3rd person shooter.
>>740759446k
>>740751848My main 2 points as to why I love deadlock is the movement and heroes. Movement is the best in any 3-rd person shooter / moba, there are massive differences between people that can manage stamina and move around buildings and noobs, one of the largest skill gaps. Heroes are also one of the best, each one has his unique voice lines and interactions with specific heroes depending on conditions. I guess people not liking it are the people that get filtered by the movement / wall jumping and having to actually aim in a MOBA game unlike just clicking like in League or Dota. The skill expression in deadlock is just on another level (with parries and melees too).
>>740759190>the problem with <game that isn't TF2> is that it's not TF2 and anything different upsets meYou are autistic. Calling you that might seem redundant since you're a TF2fag, but you are genuinely a miserable creature and I pity you.
>>740758846>Be Valve>Get jealous of Overwatch>You also got esports brainworms>Your response to that is to murder rape TF2 in 2016 to the point it’s completely fucked and unplayable>Leave it to die for a decade despite obvious interest from players otherwise>”People just don’t wanna play TF2 anymore man”Fuck Valve fucking niggers. Clueless retard slop company.
>>740759713calm down there sperg, I brought up tf2 because it's valve's most recognizable game and any hero/class based shooter has lineage going back directly to tf2's design
>>740759750>it's been 10 years>game is way older than most gamers alive today>aduuuuuur why don't they just give it an engine upgradebecause nobody will play it retardbro
its fun, but the forced 50 makes it hard to actually care as much.
>>740759890I didn’t write anything about an engine update retardio. They just have to bring back quick play. Also notice how people play CS and DOTA despite them being “le old”, as if that fucking means anything in today’s incredibly stagnant and slpppified landscape where even the zooms are larping as 90s kids to cope now.
>>740760119bringing back quick play won't make people play the 20 year old game retardbro
>>740754026What is this concord design shit?
>>740757232Please no... I need massive height for zero stamina...
Deadlock feels as innovative as Overwatch was in 2016. Why would anybody be talking about Marvel Rivals when it's doing what Blizzard did a decade ago?
>>740751979But if the game doesn't have unlocks to grind, then what's the point?Unlocks reward playtime with power, which results in more skilled players beating noobs with low playtime
>>740751848You seem to be interpreting it as a hero shooter.It is not a hero shooter. It's a moba.If that doesn't gel with you either that's fine. It's just more appropriate to compare it to games like dota, of which there is certainly a demographic of people who want more mechanical depth and additional dimensions than others within the genre.Regardless, to be seen as an sidegrade in your eyes during the alpha stage of development seems like a good reason to keep it on your radar then. Check back in in a while and see if it sticks when it's in a more complete state.
>>740762504Its a shooter with "heros"(some gayass cartoon characters with their own personality) ofc its a hero shooter
Leave me in a room with Celeste and Silver and I can assure you that unicorns and werewolves will now make 2% of the world's population.
This is like the only new game I wanna play but I don't have a good enough PC for it. I could get one but it feels too onions coded to do that for a single game
>>740762607It has lanes, creeps, jungle camps, levels, match currencies, items and neutral sub-objectives. Hero shooters don't have any of those. Those are hallmark definitions of what makes a moba.By your metric, do you also happen to define something like Payday as an extraction shooter on account of the presence of extracting items and shooting?
It's Dota/LoL but as a third person shooter.Unlike Overwatch/Marvel Rivals you get to farm creeps autistically for 40 minutes. I think this is some form of meditative relaxation for the target audience, like PoE autists enjoy running maps for hours where they just one-shot the entire screen and loot.Also people trust Valve as a dev because Dota has minimal p2w/p2notgrind and Deadlock currently has none, something only very few multiplayer games do.
>>740751848It's another forced 50 skinnerboxProbably at this time it's best it'll ever be because it isn't infested with cheaters and cosmetics yet. But don't worry it will be ruined when it goes public
>>740751979ironic considering Deadlock is an autistic game>and i kinda like Deadlock
>>740763065>you get to farm creeps autistically for 40 minutes.Not that kind of game. You fight or you lose.
>sidegrade to overwatch and a downgrade compared to gundam evolution>look inside>it's just a third person shooter DotAwhy do we keep throwing the hero shooter description around? skills and ultimates? that's from a MOBAneutral creeps and objectives? that's from a MOBA and Overshart doesn't have thatmoney and item shop? that's from a MOBA and Overshart doesn't have thatbase to destroy? that's from a MOBA and Overshart doesn't have that (I'll give you Dirty Bomb with its objective mode...)universal movement tech? hero shooters lock movement options to certain type of character (spidey can't double jump, THE HOOLK can't)SUGGESTION: let's start calling hero shooters first person MOBAs
>>740764025*spidey can double jump
>>740751848>Do people just play it because valve made ityes. there is so much wrong with the game that people would laugh out of the room if it were any other studio making it (artsyle, character desgin, a UI so bad it looks like the fingerless gloves meter image, hard CC in a shooter, ADHD lack of downtime, adding in a billion mechanics just to). It really just shows how much slop the drones will eat
>play holliday in brool>get head hunter and mystic shot>then get haunted shot>clicking anywhere near the head of a fucker atomize him>distant "Start running pal' !" can be heard across the map
>>740760167yes it will
>>740764025>it has items and 5 minutes of laning so it's DOTA!no
>>740751848It's 3d Dota The same subhumans that play dota for 5000 hours will play that for 5000 hours because they are just empty husks of flesh
>>740765637I played both LoL and DotA is Deadlock is actually quite relaxing compared to both.
>paired with silver in lane>lore accurate gameplay as she throws herself into danger constantly>have to invest into divine barrier and rescue beam to keep her ass alive>we win and she thank me while also throwing "ez game faggots" in all chatAt least vindicta rescue beam is fun it's like an aliexpress ivy ult
>>740766109Exactly this, whenever I lost on league I would start foaming at the mouth in rage. Deadlock is way more chill even on loss streaksThe 6 v 6 format is better since if you have a single bad player its still salvageable. In 5 v 5s less so.
>>740762305devs regularly group queue on marvel rivals and 2026 updates are slopping up the game such that deadlock feels like rivals with autism stats
>>740751848unbalance garbage might as well play rivals
>>740761271edited
>>740766794i don't care about marvel or hero shooters tho
>>740764173Street Brawl is fun in all the right ways. It also makes me play heroes and item combos I would've never thought about.
>>740754026>be Rivet in Brawl>go on roof and ult>watch enemy team scurry and perish like ants
>>740754634The only chars I absolutely hate listening to are Rem and all of the vocal frying girls (Graves, Wraith etc). Rem's VA should've been an actual child, not a tryhard quirky chungus woman with barely any direction - wasn't Rem supposed to be a scared sleepy kid? Maybe 1% of his actual gameplay lines sound like that, everything else is absolute dogshit. What a waste of a great char design...
>>740751848I think you might have some brain damage but it's fine, not everything has to be made to cater to you
>>740762916retards like that guy think genres are defined by the lexical definition of the words in the name. He'd have a meltdown if he knew what the moba acronym is
>>740767332Rem is a demon from some parallel dimension that got accidentally pulled into our world by Hazehe might be a juvenile but he's still an eldritch horror masquerading as a cute bird kid
>>740766956who asked?
THE GAME KEEPS CRASHING ON ME REEEE
It's a pretty good game but the recent urn fiasco and lack of true transformative mechanics and extremely slow update speeds make me realize it will never be a GREAT game. The movement is fantastic but it could have been true GOTD if they tried a little harder. Oh well.>>740767332Rem has some of the best lines in the whole game what are you smoking
>>740751848Autistic collectors and 3worlders will play this game forever.
>>740768101>extremely slow update speedsBrother you are playtesting a game that isn't even in betaNot saying this excuses it from criticism, but of course updates are going to be slow they're still making the goddamn thing.We'll probably get big content patch August/Sept and that's if we're lucky.
>>740768185Yeah but I want it now
I started playing only the brawl mode (something like ARAM in league). The normal matches lately been so dogshit to me, basically 90% of the time your team stomps the other team, or the other way around, and you already know who's gonna win 10min in. But the game requires so much farming, pushing and objectives that even if you know it's over it drags to fucking 50mim games. My average match time is fucking 48min, and there's no /ff so you can't just end it early. Decided that it's just fucking annoying so started playing only brawl mode, it's not perfect, but it's a quick 3 rounds to win match without keeping you hostage for 50min
>meets Silver>calls her fatherless>meets Rem>immediately tells him to never talk to a glownigger>meets Graves>tells her he doesn't care about her agehow can one character be this based
>>740768343>that even if you know it's over it drags to fucking 50mim gamesBrother this is the biggest self expose everYou are the only constant.If you can't carry in your shitelo games then maybe you belong there.
>>740751848>overwatchDeadlock is a MOBA in hero shooter form, not TF2 with heroes instead of classes.
>>740751848>downgrade compared to gundam evolutionI know this whole post is bait but even mentioning this game lets me know you are the ascended final goycattle, definitely from a country with very poor labour laws.
>>740768529ahh yes, I AM the problem in the average of 30 games, each with 12 players, 11 different ones in each game, and 80% of time me being top souls/dmg. That's some statistical discovery if I am the issue here.
>>740768870See this is the issue mate, you're refusing to take accountability. I'm telling right now there's like thousands things you could improve on, but instead of getting better you're just seething at your team-mates and deflecting blame.If you want to ff at 15 just stick to league
The game needed a third totally new objective in-between of importance to the Midboss and Urn, not reworking the urn a million times.
>>740768870your rank would trend upward if this were anywhere near true, you are shit
>>740769020>>740769128Not how the matchmaking works btw
You retards are fucking mathematically illiterate if you think across dozens of games with fucking 12 players each, it is a singke player fault if most of them are shit lmao
>>740769289been playing for 500 hours and yes it very much is, cope!
>>740769289I am 400 hours and AscendantIt is exactly how it fucking works you shitterImprove or give up.
>>740769358This is an anonymous board and you are defending your gayming honour this vehemently, reevaluate your life, dumbfuck.
>>740769460I'm talking about shit matchmaking experience in a thread about the game I play and there are couple of retards trying to force prove that's the game is perfect without issues and I should just "git gud". So you're the braindead one and maybe start discussing the game instead of trying to hyper focus on some retarded "git gud" answers
>>740769358TF2>die>10-20 second respawn>there are 11+ teammates who can make up for my mistakeDeadlock>die>70 second respawn>there are 5 teammates who might barely make up for my mistake
>>740752430>While it's one of the most fun games it's also one of the most UNFUN games I've ever played.i have some similar feelings, the game is great and i think its objectively well made but i hate what it stands for>t. installed it again
>>740770276why the fuck are you comparing it to tf2?
>>740751848cant even report cheaters with evidence what game does that shit?
>>740767839>>740768101Alright actual lines aside, for me it's 99% about the fucking VA. I hate how I can hear the smile in her voice as she's reading the lines, I hate the inconsistent screeches she does, I hate the weird mlamlamla efortless noises, and I hate how her normal voice peeks through sometimes. As I said, playing as or vs a Rem is grating for me as the voice acting is so shit all I can imagine is a Californian hag screaming into the mic. I'd take Invoker's persona's boy over her anytime.
>>740751848Its not even a hero shooter, there is zero overlap with TF2 or Overwatch its a 3rd person ASSNIGGER game and I dont understand how anybody can find the boring cookie clicker shit you do in between killing the enemy fun also the hero kits are shit with every character needing to have a gun even the ones using a fucking sword looks ridiculous
>>740751848battleborn was better
>>740759060Rank is dependent on game performance, not winning or losing. If you are losing hard, it is absolutely optimal to either sit in fountain or afk farm and avoid enemies at all costs to retain rank.
>>740772047>it is absolutely optimal to either sit in fountain or afk farm and avoid enemies at all costs to retain rank.... assuming kda and gpm were the only metric of performance being measured, of course. which we already know from dota isn't true
>>740771582play brawl
>>740751848It's valve's game.That's it.The game has no staying power, and bleeding players everyday.
>>740772126Do steam graph posters actually read the graphs
>>740772123some other game should just make a brawl hero shooter its honestly 10x better than farming creeps in a lane and hoping someone doesnt feed.
>>740759750A little reminder that the 20k or so people still playing TF2 are highly autistic individuals like furries, trannies and other neo-homosexual sexual deviants. They don't really play the game, just sort of sit around and taunt and post porn on their discord circlejerks. They infest deadlock in the bottom ranks, are absolutely insufferable and unbelievably delusional that people will spent an iota of a second playing their game while they're still there.
>>740772126steamcharts are so fucking fake they say theres 200 ppl playing bloodbowl and yet i never find an opponent no less than 30minutes
>>740772203>>740772337American education, Ladies & Gentlemen
>>740772081>heh, you see, this is not the case in [other game]Dota has a rank number which you can see, this game doesn't.You are a genuine 80 IQ monkey that thinks its smart. I assume you don't play deadlock either as you're unfamiliar with sometimes deranking when winning and upranking when losing.
>>740772447>American education, Ladies & Gentlemen
>>740772047this is not true i make smurf accounts and place high in ranks with the worse 'game performances ever' like a lash melee or other not optimal melee like sinclair or kelvin You are speaking out of your ass no one knows how it works.
The urn changes completely killed my interest in this game. They have no idea what they are doing. Haven't touched the game in weeks.
>>740754924SEE >>740772487 game doesnt even track stats good retard
>>740772487>heh, you see, this is not the case in [other game]... which was made by the same developers. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that part, but it's OK. I'll assume the best of you, I'm sure it was an accident.>Dota has a rank number which you can see, this game doesn't.Dota has unranked which works exactly that way, sorry sweeatiye. Hidden MMR system.>I assume you don't play deadlock either as you're unfamiliar with sometimes deranking when winning and upranking when losing.Oh, I'm not personally familiar with it, no. I've seen a lot of shitters bitching about that, I'm presuming it's because the ranking system still has low confidence in its estimation of them at the time of the match. I've definitely gone up multiple ranks from a win when returning from a break, though.Here's what rank I made it to last time before I wandered off.
> > 740772614Well, you see, a couple of pro gamers and streamers in the high ranks recommended it, so you know Yoshi had to listen, like the attention-seeking whore he is.Yeah guys, aspire to play like those no-lifers at high ranks. That's what people want.They should really just learn from Rivals and give everyone high ranks like Diamond and Grandmaster. It makes the community happier. It was a really good example and made players stay for a while.
What does it do better than other Mobas?Regardless of how people feel Overwatch was like the next step of TF2s games design in terms of pulling a lot of shit from it while being its own thing and similar to that Marvel Rivals pulled a lot from Overwatch while feeling like an evolution of that design and making characters I didnt even think were possible with that format. I know nothing of LoL, DoTA or Smite to tell if Deadlock is the "Next big thing" for that genre like people are hyping it ass
>>740772720not hard to rank when they add pugs vs groups not saying your doing that but its very common and freak weirdos that play ivy do it.
>It's a "Graves in Street Brawl" match
brawl killed standard
>>740772884Nah I play soloAnd I was only posting my rank and games to demonstrate that I do in fact play the game, to dispel the egonigger's desperate defence of his wild assertions
>>740772759they do that noobs be hitting ascendance >>It's a "Graves in Street Brawl" matchdies instantly to any nuker
>>740772081https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gKhdzGjw8https://patents.google.com/patent/US9789406B2/enLoLGAWDS have actually solved F50 matchmaking in assfaggot games. It is all individual performance. So long as you are booling every game, the matchmaker will keep giving you wins, the second your performance drops, it will think "this is it, this is his level" and lock you in a purgatory where it will drive you into 50% winrate. I have tested this and made a new HOTS account and was sitting at 85% winrate (sample size 100 or so games), playing against accounts which have 2k levels, the second i lost 2-3 games in a row, the money train stopped and i started getting teammates who were unbelievably braindead, against competent enemies.This is how the lol mm operates 1:1, if you are locked into loser's q, you are to burn your account and start anew, it is most aggressive there.In dota, i believe, it is the most lenient as it has to be, since smurfing is a bannable offense, but in the other games it is encouraged.I was hardstuck in the goathead rank(forgot its name) on my main steam account, when i started playing on a smurf with a friend who is ascendant, i landed in high phantom, so it for sure is at play in DL
>>740751848valve will never let this game show it failed, Ever its like burger king adverting their burgers are shit.
>>740751848>Dota but with aimingIt's alright I guess
>>740751848It would be a good hero shooter if it wasn't a MOBA.
>>740773031tyler1 solved LoL ages ago
>>740772720>made by the same devsDood it was made by the """same""" devs so it has to be a pastejob. 80% of the devs who made dota 2 in 2011 are gone, DL is being developed by campo santo and hotpoo games, completely different developerbase.>hidden mmrObvs this game has a hidden mmr too, but it has no visible mmr, with which you can gauge your rank properly, because then it would be brutally visible that you LOSE mmr when winning if you performed like shit>here's my rank last time i one tricked ivy when she was brutally broken with all other heroes having double down arrowLMAO, game is still in development and rank doesn't mean shit yet.The ranking system is completely broken still. with some sanctuary ranks, where the rank below it has objectively better players, that being archon and alchemist, but i suspect ascendant is the same as i have a high ascendant friend who genuinely sucks dick at the game
>>740766746I think it's purely how helpless you are in LoL or DotA when you're losing. There are only so many ways you can outplay someone when you're down a lot of money. With Deadlock there are less excuses and plenty of ways for you to gap the enemy or get gapped yourself. You can literally double your DPS by just having better aim on some characters, or quadruple your movement speed by traversing the map better.People also like to meme that urn is a win more mechanic but the comeback resists are absurdly powerful and can bring you back from a 30k+ deficit. There are very few games where I feel like there is nothing I can do to win, even if buckbroken anons will tell you otherwise.
>>740751979I have never had less fun playing any game in my entire life than I had with deadlock. The only person in every lobby whose soul isn't getting sucked or of their asshole is the guy that got the most fed in lane phase. Everyone else just farms and waits for him to end while he relishes his few moments of god complex. If you decide you are going to eat shit for 200 hours to git gud so you get to be that guy, you are only going to end up in lobbies with other people who made the same decision so you are still going to have an 11/12 chance of being miserable every time you que up. Valve hasn't made a good game design decision since half life 2. They should stop trying and just stick to printing money with steam.
>>740773031performance rank is complete bullshit, i played dota always averaging like 10-4- or 4-1 on to this day i dominiate and stuck in 50% winrate even on a new account
>>740766746that's because no concrete meta playstyle has been developed yet and you're all essentially running around like headless chickensin 5 years time you will look back at the current gameplay and say that people were retarded back then, same as when looking at a dota 2 pro game from 10 years ago
>>740773234>With Deadlock there are less excuses and plenty of ways for you to gap the enemy or get gapped yourself. You can literally double your DPS by just having better aim on some characters, or quadruple your movement speed by traversing the map better.This but don't forget melee too. There are so many fights where I'm like 50hp but the retard melees, I parry and somehow turn the fight around.Something like that could never happen on League or Dota which is what makes it so frustrating. You just have to accept the rape and GG go next.
>>740751848>I don't understand the fascination with this game.fascination WHERE? where can i see this fascination with deadlock?this thread is the first time i heard of this game.
>>740751848Mobas are fun and this one has a nice spin to it, the problem is that it's unfinished garbage and that the devs are retarded>>740751979>funNot in it's current state, dynamo seven and others like victor and pocket can just run the game because their kits are overloaded while characters like graves get dumpstered every other week
>>740773280Welcome to competitive team games only retards play then or they play only with friends
>>740773340>10-4 or 4-1>dominatedominate is the mid tinker being 28-0, sister, you are not as good as you think you are
>>740772047I can 100% confirm this. I was placed in diarrhea 5 for some reason, and was able to climb into the bold tiers (oracle? Ascendent? Whatever the ones are that stand out) in a couple weeks because I consistently was going crazy stats like 30/2/10. I stopped playing once I got to the higher levels though because the game frankly sucks major ass for so many reasons, but I had a solid 70% winrate for about 500 games and would rank up even in some losses because I performed well in each match.
>>740773416LOL did you just exposed yourself being guardian?thats funny
>>740773547my badge has a number, friend :).
>>740773218>pastejobI didn't say a pastejob however. All I said was you're simply deluded if you think they wouldn't use any similar principles for matchmaking in similar games where extremely similar concepts have to apply to the matchmaker.>then it would be brutally visible that you LOSE mmr when winning if you performed like shitI didn't say you didn't. It's confirmed a thing. Shitters simply have to play better if they want to go up rank, but they can't, so they vent instead. It's easier to try in vain to cheat the system instead, with retarded strategies such as what you suggested.>LMAO, game is still in development and rank doesn't mean shit yet.You're still coming at this from a position of me trying to brag about my rank. I'm not sure why, I'm presuming it's just because you wish you could.Again, I only posted that to dispel your retard argument that I've never played the game. I'm presuming you only threw it out there because you have no actual proof of your assertion. I'll just say it straight up bro, it's probably not a good idea to try and pad stats without knowing what stats contribute how much to your rank change after a match, or how much those stats may be affected by the context of the match around them.>The ranking system is completely broken still.Worked fine on my machine. Went from ritualist to ascendant, noticed steadily better players who were more willing to communicate.>where the rank below it has objectively better playersI agree, smurfs are a blight and need to be punished.
>>740773486>>740772047if this was the case people would go 0-20 to smurf and drop immediately but you dont
>>740773416>dominate is the mid tinker being 28-0that's EXTREMELY rare in divine 4 +
>>740773623>when the 90 IQ retard tries to comprehend a system of averagesAnd why doesn't that happen? I'm going to let you think very hawd about this.
>>740773704Yeah go average negative you wont drop because you will get carried eventually I love how you're trying to act smart but you actually fucking retarded lol DURRR INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE GUYS SOMEONE HOW FEEDERS ARE HIGH RANK.
>>740773831Low cognitive function.
>>740773623Maybe but I don't know, the matchmaking is completely fucked. This is a screenshot from before I stopped. I decided to experiment with spirit Abrams before his changes because I was sick of obvious autoparries, and I was able to dive 1v6 against their team in base with all T3s up. There was no reason for me to be in these games, ruining everyone's good time. Even in most losses I had I would perform like this and I kept ranking up super quickly, so I think the win or loss makes a difference but your individual stats absolutely matter
INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE WHY IS THE MATCHMAKING SO SHITWHY IS THERE NOOBS PHANTON INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE GUYSWHY IS THERE NEW PLAYERS IN HIGH RANKSINDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE WHY IS THERE DAILY CRYING ABOUT NOOBS IN HIGH RANKS INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE UHHHH THE MATCHMAKING MAKING DONT WORK INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE WORKS BUT MATCHMAKING DONT WORK LOL
>>740773703>that's EXTREMELY rare in divine 4 +Rare in your rank? Want me to dig up screenshots of me shitraping numberless imos on my for-friends account?
>>740751848it's factory-manufactured compslop
>>740773907if that was the cause this would happend rarely
>>740773924get good
>>740751848You're comparing apples to oranges. Deadlock is a MOBA with guns in third person. Those other games are hero/class shooters
>>740773925no one cares what your ranking in peru senor
>>740774063))
this game has an abnormally large amount of trannies playing it
>>740773581I forgot to read this and i kind of don't want to bother, this is semantics for an unfinished, unreleased game. Consider the argument won on your end, i consneed.
>>740774246That is a genuine problem, the playerbase is very reddit holesom chungus, which means it is filled with sexual deviants. Luckily, this is just because this game is the NEW thing, they'll move on like the consoomer locusts they are once the next thing current thing drops.
>>740774325Thanks you too sorry
>>740772786Movement and thats it but it still has all the boring Moba shit tacked on dragging it down, all I want is hero shooter with actual free movement instead of the continued walking all of them do
>>740773907if performance rank was a thing, support classes or classes that don't get many kills or pad stats wouldn't gain much rank. i'm sure it checks if you're noob stomping as a smurf and does something about that, but i doubt it's solely evaluating your rank on individual performance.like when i play bebop, i'm doing so much with hooks and ganks that it isn't going to show much on the scoreboard. same with moe or a support sinclair.I highly doubt they are reinventing the matchmaking ranking system in every single game just to enforce a 50% winrate EOMM.
>>740774493>i want a complex and intricate game, but without the complexity and intricacygo play blowerwatch bro, plenty of movement and shooting and 0 macro for knuckleheads such as yourself, chase that instant gratification dopamine release, never work towards anything or strategize
>performance rank>forced 50>eomm>elo hellDifferent game same shitter cope.
>>740752120>it's not as fun as tf2 since the kill times with the regular weapons are so slowTf2 sucks because you die in half a second to anyone who can aim
>>740774246Yeah got 1 year ban for calling a tranny a sick fucking faggot im sure he went out of his way to report it directly to someone tho lol fucking fags i just made another account.
>>740754029Ivy slander will not be tolerated!
>>740774594see>>740773031this is a provable fact, sister
>>740772786Regardless of how people feel, 15 = 1,000. Sorry thems the facts
>>740761271fat mods, gooners everywhere
>>740761271im sure those sick fuck are holding back desperately to add more fat black dikes and gays
the threads about this game aren't organic, it's extremely medioce. Fun for a few hours every major update I guess. Just nothing to hook you in
>>740755652There's a reason it was called "Allstars" because a lot of those heroes were ripped from other Dota variations.
>>740752120It's a DotA/LoL-like, the weapons aren't supposed to do much damage until your are into the mid-late game and have some weapon damage items, the entire point of the genre is making trades on the macro or micro scale to reach that point better and faster than your opponents. I think there's going to be a lot of confusion when the game hits open beta about people that don't understand that this is not a hero or class based shooter, it's just the MOBA formula as a third person shooter with universal movement options.
>>740774586>bringing up Overwatch for movement shootersRetard Alert and yes I want to play an actual game instead of idling killing npcs and punching boxes, strategy my asshole
>>740775172Yeah it's definitely idly sitting in the jungle as if it were 2005, clueless monkey retard.
>>740775172retards think the pve element of an assfag is just sitting there plinking creeps ucontested, but what it actually is is resource and area management against enemy playerssure, in your bottom 1% percentile rank, it probably is you sitting in a corner with the enemy being completely obliviousit is a necessary complexity layer and what makes the games fun
>>740774942saaar is not organic saar
>>740772786It's a straight up bad moba to be an okay hero shooter. The macro is absolutely awful compared to other mobas and because aim is a factor, the auto attack carry equivalent will completely dominate if they can aim no matter what. There's so many details I could go into but that's really the gist of it. Bad moba+okay hero shooter= boring as fuck game that's impossible to properly balance
>>740775408>t. nigger who spends 99% of the game on the ground and has never bought an active item ever
>>740775172The most effective players kill neutrals and break boxes on their way to their actual destination.How quickly and efficiently you can make money whilst en-route to getting a kill or clearing a lane will decide if you're outpacing the opposition.If you haven't seen an opponent then you're either not progressing the game or are in the retard ranks and the 6 of them have no map awareness.
>>740775224Completely missing the point, there is nothing fun about killing creeps and punching boxes you dumb nigger. Imagine thinking this shit s complex cause ''Oh Im getting raped let me buy the Anit-Rape Item after popping balloons'' and larping as if this shit is High IQ
>>740775172I would recommend Paladins but its dead yet it did cut out the uninteresting Moba elements, a shame it was mismanaged to hell and has the most unimaginative roster I've ever seenThen Overwatch robs its corpse with Stadium
>>740775701Curious how you didn't respond to the other posts, you drooling 80 IQ nigger. You are not the target audience, i would recommend things more up your speed like fifa or call of duty.
