Do you prefer style or historical accuracy in games?
i prefer not to play absolute garbage like ass creed dumbass geek
>>740753679Depends on what the series is going for and the game series in your image started with historical accuracy once upon a time.
>>740753679That depends on the game.If you're going for a "historically accurate" product you better stick to it and avoid filling it with all sorts of americanized bullshit.If you're making a dumb entertainment product, by all means, go nuts.All you need is setting up a good context/environment and avoid betraying it.Still, make it too cringy and I'll avoid it regardless.
The issue with pursuing historical accuracy is that you have to be absolutely 1:1 perfect or it's pointless. You can "attempt" to be historically accurate, but you're never going to achieve it exactly. It's like realism. Adding a hunger bar for "realism" yet allowing your character to take a sword slash to the stomach and not be sidelined for several months in fear of dying of his wounds is just retarded.I'd prefer devs just unabashedly do whatever they want and call everyone that disagrees a faggot. Even if it's making characters trannies or fags or whatever. If I have a problem with it I just won't buy it, let them do whatever they want.
>>740753834FPBPI seriously hope all the people making AC threads on /v/ are shills and ragebaiters and not actual AC fans
>>740754030I don't think this is an attempt at an Assassin's Creed thread. I don't think anyone actually plays that trash.
>>740753679I honestly think the bottom is more stylish. The top has too much random crap dumped on it
Bottom outfit looks cooler.Dual wielding is still retarded.
>>740753679If asscreed vhalal was realistic it would have ended with them getting assraped out of britain and converted to christianity lol
>>740754607It took generations for that to happen.
>>740753679I'll go with bottom if it also means there's no black people in the game.
romanticized horn helmet viking > realistic viking > literally anything else > absolute dogshit sideshave nu-viking
>>740754679And they are still assraped to this day lol
>>740755252Using your retarded logic china never got beaten by the mongols.
>>740754918Those things look like parasites sticking out of his head.
>>740753679the hidden blade on the distal side of the forearm does not physically work as intended or how it is presented to work in the game
>>740753679games that sell themselves on historical accuracy always flop and are boring in general. Stylizing or adding some fiction to their components always make the games more entertaining
>>740753679I prefer the bottom one not even for historical accuracy but because it just plain looks better
>>740753679The nu-viking aethestic where they have side shaved hair, cringe tattoos and leather "armors" will never not look like absolute dogshit
>>740753679Either is fine, it's the half assed middle ground like in your top pic i mostly hate
>>740755714Imagine the fear of your enemies seeing that shit coming at you, while already being too disoriented to make out what the fuck it is during battle.
cute anime girls
>>740753679>""""realistic"""">no chainmail or any other protective layer under the helmetFuck outta here
>>740753679Historical accuracy. A lot of the "style" is simply slop and makes my eyes roll.Even in a fantasy or sci-fi setting, it has to be believable as opposed to big oversized retarded weapons that has no archeological backing and that did not fit combat styles of the time.
>>740753679Historical always looks better than over designed fantasy slop
>alright which historic historic place should we turn into assassins next?>what about the vikings?>you mean those loud and drunk raider types?>yeah, they would be perfect to sneak around
>>740753679>still dual wielding axesTry again.
>>740756410Fear? Confusion maybe. They;d probably laugh that the retard put pointless weight on top of his head which made him worse in combat later when they're celebrating. You don't want more weight than you absolutely have to drag around in combat.
>>740753679I prefer the non-retarded one
>>740753679I prefer historical accuracy
>>740756960He and his neighbor were going to go chop down some trees together but his neighbor couldn't find his axe so the guy in the op is bringing two with him>inb4 why is he wearing a helmetSo something in the forest doesn't fall on his head and bonk him>inb4 why are there arrows flying aroundKids are playing with bows in the woods>inb4 why is he wearing chainmailBecause of those asshole kids that can't aim for shit
>>740756426Butte
I disagree with the premise: You can have a great sense of style while still being relatively historically accurate, or at least historically authentic. For example, even if you use a design that takes a lot of artistic liberties or is even entirely fictional and original, you can still take the elements you are using and base them on the symbolism, iconography, and motifs that originate from the culture and time period your setting uses.For example, the Ocelomeh in Fate are total fantasy: They are Aztec jaguar-monkey people with cargo paints and machets and firearms: Yet, their masks, other clothing, the patterns on their skin and bodies etc all tie into symbolism and motifs associasted with jaguars and the god Tezcatlipoca in Aztec mythology. Ironically that makes them better researched then any of the designs actual Aztec gods have in Fate, including Tezcatlipoca himself.There's also a big difference between doing something original and inaccurate or that deviates from what would be authentic due to having a legitimate artistic vision with creative intent, and doing it just because you didn't do research and didn't realize it wasn't inaccurate. >>740754002Completely disagree, see above. If you use the term "accuracy" in a strict sense, then sure, yeah, you either have to be 100% accurate or your design is technically inaccurate, but in practice you can have specific elements of a design be accurate or not which add up to a mix of accurate vs inaccurate details, and as I point out, you can still be "authentic" and reference real symbolic associations and reference iconography, artistic motifs etc even with your own original fictional designs.
>>740758274way too much textdon't wanna read it
>>740757923>paganism is a dead religion a few hundred nordics followed 1500 years ago and not buddhism or hinduism which has billions of followers right now
>>740758832Anon it's like 3 paragraphs, learn to read
I don't really care for historicity if the stuff in the game is believable. AC Valhalla is not believable
>>740755563How many chinks speaks mongolian? How many chinks pray to the mongolian God? Is the mongolian symbol on the chinese flag?
Accuracybut inaccurate stuff is okay if it's not too off and it looks cool
>>740753679whatever just make it fun to play
>>740753679Style first, accuracy second. Always. You can have a bit of both but remember this is entertainment, not a fucking history assignment. There will not be a test after this.If a game INSPIRES you to delve deeper and learn more about a subject that's a wonderful thing but it doesn't need to BE that subject. It's a fucking videogame. It serves no one for it to pretend it's somehow above that.
>>740753679why is there no missing finger?
>>740762278The hidden blade requiring the severing of the ring finger was partially a design flaw in the original hashshashin design and partially a ritual tied to that specific sect of assassins. Other cultures did not do that.
I give a shit about what characters wear being something that would actually be useful and functional and not just something that retards think looks cool.A lot of times that goes hand in hand with historical accuracy, because unsurprisingly people historically have worn what works. But if someone is like "um actually that style of helm wasn't invented until a century later" go fuck yourself.
>>740760582>Style first0 IQ
Historical accuracy is problematic.
>>740753679Both depending on context
>>740763087>commitment to "accuracy above all"Dipshit pseud faggot
>>740753679https://www.exurbe.com/the-borgias-vs-borgia-faith-and-fear/
>>740753679They're both gay because you're not playing with a real assassin.
>>740759003Yeah>>740757923Based
>historical accuracy>dual wielding>no cap or cloth under helmet>disproportional chainmail >hair not tied or cut>slanted forehead helmet
>>740754002>he issue with pursuing historical accuracy is that you have to be absolutely 1:1 perfect or it's pointless.Not it doesn't you autistic faggot. Pursuing historical accuracy can be just to make something more grounded and therefore believable and immersive, while also increasing the stakes because the danger is increased. That does not mean it has to be 100% accurate, just that it is accurate enough to not wander into complete retarded bullshit land when it is supposedly based on reality.Ah, but what's the use, you are clearly one of those bootlicking fat huffers, because only a someone who deepthroats corpo cock would try to pretend they are above it and suggest telling developers a preference is somehow bad and we should just let them produce shit because, "I speak with my wallet!"
muh realism killed gaming
>>740768386not really, it isnt realism if the gameplay doesnt have simulation aspects, but if you are talking about shitty mediocre pre-baked engine shader spam you are absolutely right
>>740753679No one prefers historical, they're always these twitchy top down war games where you have to manage resources and alliances and shit
>>740768493Yes really
>>740768705can you provide examples? i dont think there has ever been an actual realistic triple A game
>>740754002Lol retard
>>740754002>>740753679>>740768258Pursuing historical accuracy will always be inherently more immersive when presenting a time period.In OP's example it also helps that biker 'viking' LARP shit is also extremely uncool. I don't think we've even found a single case of a norseman from that time period with a tattoo, for example.
>>740754918>>740755714It always amuses me that horned helmets on 'vikings' was accurate, just not in the way people thought.
>>740769093My guess is those things had something flashy on them to make an officer distinguishable. That is the kind of sacrifice that is acceptable. Especially considering the thing is designed to be as thin as possible while also putting cloth or whatever out of the way.
>>740758274space bacteria
>>740756426
>>740753679Hollywood-esque viking costumes generally look like shit. I don't mind designs going ahistorical or fantastical but the designs have to actually look good. They usually look like foam and shit. Same deal with weapons.
>>740769215Yes, and?
>>740770135it's horrible and nasu should've died before selling out
if vikings were historically accurate then they would win only against unarmed fishing villages and monks then got fucked up the moment an army shows up
>>740756895The sagas are full of examples of them using wit or wisdom to solve a problem that brute strength couldn't. The Hollywood perception of Vikings translates to more than just design issues kind this
>>740758274I think you should kill yourself juan, nobody cares about aztec shit
>>740753679a skilled art team can make a compromise between both that's still interesting
vikangz are the most misunderstood historical grouphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPC7OzJEq3w>muh great warriorsnot at all, they fared fucking terribly against other fighters>muh pagan championslike Harald Bluetooth or Hakon the Good? >white pridethey sold white slaves to arabs
>>740753679>historical accuracydying of the black plague is so fun!
>>740770252>using wit or wisdom to solve a problem that brute strength couldn'tThis is the cornerstone of folk tales involving "heroes" of any kind.
>>740770486I agree, but that isn't the perception a lot of people have in the Vikings
>>740754002>The issue with pursuing historical accuracy is that you have to be absolutely 1:1 perfect or it's pointless.That seems self-imposed.
>>740770252because the popular image of vikings is basically Conan the Barbarian and that's the movie version because in the books he used stealth too
>>740770256I do, so it was the example I used because it's what I was familiar with>juanI'm not Hispanic (or indigenous). I don't get why people assume I am when nobody assumes people posting about Japanese shit are actually Japanese. I just think Mesoamerica is neat. And you should too, even the Spanish Conquistadors did, see pic
>>740770645TLDR were there any waifus?
>>740770576Yeah, I was only agreeing and adding that it is universal for oral tradition of the general period regardless of whether it is northern or not.
>>740770741HEHE ORAL
>>740770252Yeah, vikings are very often like heroes from fairy tales, wily and smart. One of the funniest examples is when thor dresses up as the world's ugliest bride to steal back his hammer, and then you have loki finding the one thing that can kill baldr and so on. That's why vikings converted, not because of a crisis of conscience or trend of philosophy like the greeks had, but because it was expident and christ seemed to be pretty fucking strong
>>740753679Guy on the lower image certainly looks better,I don't care what cultures used it or if it's even historically accurate, but I am so sick of those dumb-ass sideshaves, especially on women.
Reminder that 'shield maidens' were a myth and anything attempting realism shouldn't have female warriors except in the most dire of circumstances.
>>740753679White boys really got psyopped into grooming themselves like blacked whores with the whole smokey eyes, cheap tattoos and undercut thing from fake ass Hollywood vikings.
>>740770645Thank you, mesoanon.
>>740770191The reason why vikings took off after WW2 is because Hollywood deemed Germanic history not kosher. So a tribe of like 10.000 Scandinavian pirates got gased up. The entire Nordic mythology is just derivative of the Germanic ancestral religion, which Hollywood went into great lengths of burying. That's also why Lord of the rings got psyopped so hard with the hippie generation. Can't have kids know about the Nibelungs or Germanic religion.
>>740771391>The entire Nordic mythology is just derivative of the Germanic ancestral religionScandinavian mythology. Finnish mythology is completely different.
>>740771567Well Scandinavians are just north-north Germans after all while fins are north-west Mongols.(Anglos are north-west Germans)
>>740771391Is that why the Holy Roman Empire got buried so hard?
>>740771754Yes. The people running Hollywood are petty like that.Ironically that's also why japanese fantasy beats american fantasy, since they still draw from real European inspirations. Which the US used to do before WW2 when Tolkien and his gay, rootless fanfic got declared the new ancestral mythology for whites.
>>740754918the barbarian in d2 has a cool winged helmet that i always loved
>>740763723YOU ARE NO MAN
>>740758274Imagine how cool Wakanda 2's Atlanteans could have been if they actually had any interest in drawing inspiration from history to make something original. Could have had cool-ass vibranium fish scale battle-onesies.
>>740771660Germans are scandinavian offshoots, which is why they are so weird.
>>740753679Style
>>740753679why do "historically accurate" norse (vikings) always wear the exact same outfit? It's always the same!Surely there's some variety available.
>>740753679I prefer picking a style and sticking with it, inconsistent direction is worse than anything else.A lot of games fall into the trap of doing both and the contrast is what makes it look stupid. The contrast is blaring.Using Assassin's Creed Valhalla as an example since it's the OP picture. If you're going to make a hyper stylised version of the world, don't also include a "history mode" in the same product that relies on the stylised game to try tell history.It's a contrast that just doesn't need to exist. If you're going to make a game where invading rapists and murderers are the good guys, with assets that don't match a single time period nevermind the actual period depicted, with locations that simply aren't historically accurate, don't use that as a backdrop to tell history as history.Showing me a city as it might have looked in the 13th century and telling me about it in the context of the 9th century is just retarded, it's extra retarded when the backdrop of the game is the 9th century itself.Just pick one and stick with it. I love either kind. In fact my two favourite games are one VERY stylised and one historically accurate. But there's none that combine the two that I like.
>>740753679Style. But that depends on devs being competent. Ubisoft could never.
>>740774040*throws explosive keg at you*Nothing personnell, kid
>>740774098No they aren't. There were millions of Germans through all of history while Scandinavians were a few thousand men. Even today Sweden has a population lower than NYC. They just were never relevant.
>>740774867They're saying that Germans are Scandinavians that went South, which is true.They're more Germans because their conquests South was successful and they moved to more fertile and easier to live in land where their population could blow up.Proto-Germanic culture began in what is now Denmark and Southern Sweden, then it split into North-Germanic, South-Germanic and then split off again and again.
>>740770191Vikings reputation came from being what is essentially terrorists, they was feared because they'd come into the village your wife and children are in, massacre and enslave them then they'd run and sail away. Their fear wasn't in the battlefield, it was in the fact that knowing they're around means you're constantly wondering if when you go home you'll see your children rotting beheaded or alive and well.They started getting better at battles when they started adopting the Anglo Saxon forms of governance and warfare. And they took that to Ireland and the Scottish Highlands to conquer them instead of contesting with the Anglo Saxons they was imitating.
>>740774867Oh yeah? How many times has germany killed 1/3rd of the swedish population? Because sweden has done the inverse at least once.
>>740753679You can be as fantastical as you want just don't put niggers in it
>>740753679FOR ODIN'S PUBIC HAAAAAAAIIIRRRRR
>>740753679I just don't want anachronisms for political correctness of current day sensibilities make it fun, make it novel, just don't make it preachy
>>740775134Bullshit. Scandinavia was always an offshoot of German culture which itself is an offshoot of steppe warrior culture.
>>740775368The Anglo Saxons are Nordic (Vikings) who colonized Saxony. They didnt become the ANGLO Saxons until they conquered England. Then they got conquered by the Normans who was a region in France that was also colonized by Nordics (Vikings). The entire history of 1000AD->1300AD in Brittain, Holland, Scandinavia and Saxony is just Nordic men conquering eachother.
>>740753679I bet you think youre a "norse pagan" you vaccinated zoomer porn masturbating faggot retardModern pagans are just as insanely sub human as christiansI have NEVER met a MODERN PAGAN in my ENTIRE LIFE who isnt a literal fucking porn masturbating tv show watching jew movie consuming mask wearing vaccinated social media using urbanite dumb fuck faggot retard that masked and vaxxed and had a fever dream in their bedroom in lockdown between porn and video games that theyre the reincarnation of tv show RagnarSeriously the most mentally ill fucking people in the westI genuinely have more respect for christshits who actually believe in SOMETHING rather than pinterest etsy tattoo viking ideasFuck off zoomer dipshit faggot retardESPECIALLY considering everyones coincidentally a "Norse Pagan" of all things, the most marketable and consumer friendly brand and identity for consumers in the 21st century west at the moment, because sitting in your bedroom with a covid mask on and your cum sock under your bed playing skyrim assassins creed god of my wife's son faggothalla ragnarcuck makes you a real man
>>740777321nice monologue, schizo-kun
It doesn't matter how accurate you are, some armchair youtube fag will make a video about how inaccurate your game is so they can feel a sense of superiority
>>740776881No, the Proto-Germanics went from the Steppe in Ukraine where the Proto-Indo-Europeans began to modern Denmark and Southern Sweden. Germany at the time would have been Proto-Celtic before the Germanics split into Southern and Northern.This isn't some psuedo bullshit lol, you can look it up. It also doesn't mean anything, I'm not sure why you're getting defensive over the origins of people from around 2000 years ago?>>740777152The Anglo from Anglo Saxons are from the Anglo tribe that existed in Denmark. The Anglos migrated en masse to England. Amongst them was also Frisians and Jutes, Frisian is the closest language to English and Old English and Old Frisian used the same runes for their languages.However the Jutes and Frisians mixed with Saxons and Anglos but the Anglos was the majority of England. The name England was partly political to appease the Anglo nobility in Mercia, East Anglia and Northumbria.They wasn't Nordic though, they was North Sea Germanics. Nordic as a cultural umbrella didn't really appear until England was conquered. The Anglo origins in Denmark was taken by the Northern Danes and became Nordic through them though, long after the Anglos had left.It's not Nordic men conquering each other, it's Germanic men. If you want to get more specific it's Northern Germanic men. Norse is too specific and wrong.
>>740753679If it's set in history it ought to be as historical as possible, especially where it doesn't impact the plot or gameplay. Otherwise I don't care.
>>740753679They toned down how much indiscriminate killing and raping they did. Not to mention how much they got their asses kicked by Alfred the Great annihilating them at Edington and pushing them back forever.
>>740753679>Do you prefer style or historical accuracy in games?stylized when i think it looks more pleasant to the eye or cooler. it's a game, not a documentary
>>740753834fpbp
>>740754002KCD does it very well, you get to learn about that life style and era>>740769006this
You can have both specific things on their own can look lame but they all come together and make for an immersive experience
>>740777321Based and correctBunch of obese retards with noodles arms and recessed chin who watch too much netflix
>>740777321The only people this upset over vikings are inevitably some sort of brown creature that think they are mediterranean and cope with their shitskinness by attempting to shit on germanics, despite real mediterraneans not really caring since they have already proven themselves as nations
>>740753679historical accuracy is for fuckin spergs and losers. video games are all fantasy, an escape from life. if i wanted historical accuracy I'd watch a documentary.
>>740781554>I need explosions every 10 seconds or I won't play your game Mods need to implement a summer age restrictions
>>740781973He's probably a manchild hung up muh escape
>>740778396is that an actual scene?
>>740782179Of course it is. If you can't trust 4chan who can you trust?
>>740753679i come from a shithole that still had outhouses in the city well into the 60sromanticize the shit out of me daddy
>>740753679It depends on the scenario. The game has to be fun to play after all. But in terms of the general presentation: if the game presents its scenario in a historical context, like a game about a medieval european society, there shouldn't be africans in it. So, basically no "modern audience" bullshit.
i prefer it to be fun OPdont call it historical accuracy and i don't give a fuck
Reality often disappoints
>>740753679The dude is noncanon.
>>740770690Yes, see the adult women in >>18521865>>740774097I have some pretty big issues with how BP2 handled the Talokanil, but to their credit there were also some elements I thought were pretty well done (EX: the outfits in pic related)Rather then giving a multi-paragraph long breakdown of it though I'm just gonna link one a friend of mine did that I mostly agree with: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gj-OyjYWwAAF_tf?format=png&name=orig
>>740785854>>740770690whoops, fucked the link up:>>>/his/18521865
>>740753679I don't understand what's the appeal of dual axe wielding shit... It's pretty much as retarded as double swords, but with the added downside that the axes are weight towards the end. You're completely going to throw yourself off guard if you try to sing those at the same time or even just individually. It'll constant cause you to shift weight and fuck up your movement entirely. literally just use the double handed one since it allows you to block and parry with the shaft then use the small axe as a sidearm, just the same the knights would mainly use their polearms and only ever resort to the swords when strictly necessary.
It depends on how much the game depends on real history, if it's set in an alternate world/timeline then obviously it doesn't matter, but if it's supposed to be vaguely based in reality then it should try to seem authentic.
>>740757923based! christ is king!
>>740774867The Germanic urheimat is currently believed to be somewhere in southern Scandinavia, with waves of migrations southward bringing into the what the Romans would eventually call Germania. Germanic tribes were historically quite migratory, so this is hardly unbelievable.
>>740785854I stand somewhat corrected; nice to see there was actually some effort on that front.
>>740787483As the bigger breakdown I linked explains, it's a pretty mixed bag: Some stuff like the royal ceremonial outfits I posted in >>740785854 are pretty good, as is Namor's hut in the Cenote which has excellent interior decor, and the overall symbolism and theming of a lot of the movie is on point, but all the warrior outfits the Talokanil use look pretty bad and stereotypical and it's hard to get a sense of Talokan's architecture
>>740777321Niggas still seething over Covid more than half a decade later.
>>740763237imagine being this much of a cuck to pay for this game, and have the behind the scenes lecture you about wokeismImagine paying to have those bits of information and pics in the game folder stored in your pc/console
>>740786125I don't think it was a thing before dritzz dro urden.It's american pollution, once more.
>>740769718How do I save this terrified girl, successfully escape the war, and marry her, without her killing me?
>>740781973where did i say anything about explosions every 10 seconds? if you're a retarded sperg who needs historical accuracy, just say so. you don't have to start making up scenarios on who I am because you're insecure about it...
both
>>740785854We wuz Maya n shit
>>740754918Winged helmet viking >>>>>>>>>> horned helmet
>>740768258>it's corporate bootlicking to not want corporate committees and stockholders to tell game devs what to do to maximize sales>it's corporate bootlicking to say do whatever you want and if I don't like it I just won't buy it
What is more historically accurate?>Play as a serf/servant/layman living adjacent to historical events, experiencing society in the wake of their happenings>Play as a historical figure, knowing full well their recorded actions, but letting the player still ultimately choose what they want to doIf it's just an aesthetics issue then reassess your life
>>740753679Definitely historical accuracy. We haven't even began to simulate some of the more interesting mechanics a historically accurate game might invent. >>740754002That's wrong. What matters is that you are historically plausible, not historically accurate. You need to get the big things right. No one cares if you introduce potatoes and coffee to Renaissance Italy a decade before they historically arrived.
>>740778206That's a man.
>>740753679Depends on the context. I think you can have historical accuracy AND style. But for the most part, I lean more towards greater historical accuracy overgreater "style" (which is usually just an excuse by devs/directors to be research-lazy and infuse their games with Hollywoodslop tropes and modern politics) especially if the setting is actually historical and not fantasy.
>>740788969>girl
>>740753679I thought vikings didn't wear much chainmail or something
>>740790856It's absolutely an aesthetics issue above all, you retard. World culture, especially before the printing press, when huge swathes of the population were illiterate, was historically highly visual and vivid. Coat of arms, flags, even colors distinguished classes and cultures and religions and world regions. Morals were depicted on the walls of holy places. Heroes and Gods and ideals were depicted through statues and paintings. The development of human civilization cultures is literally studied through objects.An alt-history game doesn't mean something is historically inaccurate. There is very little way to make a game where you give players the choice to influence outcomes, without allowing small tweaks and alteration to history. Even as a serf, if you're given the choice to influence what goes on in whatever village you live in, you have the ability to do things that technically alter the historical reality of said village.
>>740791540True, but it wouldn't have been significantly different than other areas of Europe at the time. Typically reserved for Jarls/Kings and other higher ups who could afford it. But I'm sure quite a number of them had access to armor after successful raids or money/social power to higher or force blacksmiths to produce sets for them and when they did, it was typically chainmail and helmets like in the OP and shields
>>740753679THAT'S A NICE HEAD YOU HAVE ON YOUR SHOULDERS
>>740793320LESS TALK, MORE RAIDING
>>740792191>you have the ability to do things that technically alter the historical reality of said villageSo did slaves for that matter..
>>740778396what bothers me the most about that is the shinai that kind of shinai would be invented hundreds of years later, and first shinai type the fukuro shinai was invented a few decades later after yasuke
>>740753679I prefer my manly realistic Viking, but I'm not against a more fancy portrayal.
>>740770645Do you have the bigger version of this one, my first attempt to search it failed
>>740796254It failed because those were assembled for the purpose of that whole collageI have a slightly less downscaled version here but this is as big as it can get because this is the original size/scaling of the Tlatoani chadface by OHS688, though the other chadfaces, wojaks etc are bigger in their original posts and I can link those to you if you want them
>>740791540>>740792746All vikings had chainmail, we were way more advanced than the retarded celts that were only useful for producing red haired babes for us to take back home.
You are not taking your game seriously unless you recreate your setting from scratch with the exact tools and skills of the era.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle
>>740796446you should kill yourself
>>740796701What's the issue, anon
>>740796446Thanks, I couldn't read the small text.
>>740796779You sure you opened >>740770645 all the way? At fullsize the text there should still be readable and it should appear larger then how you had it in >>740796254What web browser are you using? And on mobile or desktop?
>>740769093>It always amuses me that horned helmets on 'vikings' was accurate, just not in the way people thought.This one is like ~2000 years older than the viking era
>>740753679How did a bunch of murdering rapists ever got the technology to wear chainmail and steel helmets? That part was strange to me. I know its historically accurate but how did they do it?
>>740753679depends on the game? Historical can be fun for immersion if that's the goal but it can also look very drab. There's also a very different skill set to make something good in a fantasy way and to make it good in a historical way and often it's best if a dev focuses on making stuff good the best way they can.
>>740778598>kcd
>>740796894Are you implying I am stupid? Because you should, I forgot I had 4chanx set to automatically size it up to my windows size by default.
>>740797138Because technology is built by murdering rapists you stupid troon
>>740797138>how did they do itunironically by raping
>>740797138There is a this thing called trading and knowledge also tends to spread if it is for something usefulalso>chainmail Just drawn a wire and have lot of free time>steelPeople knew what Iron was, and that there was iron, and better iron. They both came out from a bloomery but some people knew empirically how to get more of one than the other, or at least they knew how to differentiate.
>>740797138stealing and selling, sometimes making but that would require a skilled murder rapist
>>740798025It takes less skill to build boats that can sail the harshest weather on earth and navigate with the stars?Some of you are so low iq about history
>>740798269i am talking about gear like proper chainmail and decent well made helmets, and weapons of course, boats are very easy with a group
>>740798380>boats are very easy with a groupSays who?How could negroes never manage boats before the white man came, bending metal takes way less skill than build an entire boat
>>740798481i see, we are talking about black men now, tell me more
>>740753679kcd was the only high budget 1st person game that game a shit about that and now its gone with nigs, fags and feminists everywhere
>>740753679I prefer them to be fun which Valhalla fucking wasn't. Looked good, but that's as far as my complements for it can go.
>>740797138anon there was iron forging tradition in 5000 BC in europe
>>740798640They're the ultimate rape and kill race
>>740753679bottoms cooler, sides of the head being shaved is extremely gay
>>740798803that is correct yes, at least they mostly stayed in the same place before globalization, the only boats they had were low carry capacity to cross rivers
>>740798790*metal
>>740798983Viking explorers was good for everyone, everyone is proud of their nordic gene, unless you're jewish
>>740753679Historical accuracy can and is very aesthetic.Unless your actively going for a cartoony or stylistic artstyle, like most jap games or games made by smaller devs that's fine too.the eye has no room for Hollywood """"""""realism"""""""" slop like the top part your your pic and so many other AAA games thaat have come out over the last 10 years.
>>740797608Nah, I assumed it was probably an issue with a mobile phone browser or something, rather then anything you specifically did
>>740753834shill marketer office is currently a crater and this post is the reason
>>740757923vikangs were converting multiple times and complained that their new conversion is not as grand as the previous one, they didnt understand or care for that shit at all.
>>740799190hired mercenaries were very important for most people not on the receiving end, if the jews were successful and expanded further they probably would've liked to use vikings
>>740797518That's pretty accurate
>>740797138raping
>>740753679accurate valhalla?then No "shieldmaidens." just good housewives and female sl@v3s.
>>740801561>sl@v3s
>>740753679I prefer when there is no niggers in settings that shouldnt have them at all
>>740796648just play Kingdom Come
>>740753679Simpler, more realistic armor and weapons mogs the shit out of fantasyslop.
>>740802803im not gay tho
>>740770645>I'm not Hispanic (or indigenous). I don't get why people assume I am when nobody assumes people posting about Japanese shit are actually Japanese. I just think Mesoamerica is neat. it's ironic, since most spics on the internet akshually think aztec wankery is embarrassing cringe shit since they associate it with their countries' left wing lolshould have seen /co/ (majority latinxo board) when the whole aztec batman shit was on the news kek
>>740797138they had kingdoms to go back + trading and bog iron
>>740753679I was upset back when side cut was the official viking hair in TV shows
>>740804869I still need to watch Aztec Batman actually.From what I've seen at least the architecture and non-superhero clothing on the Mesoamerican side is pretty accurate, at least.
I don't have a huge issue with historical inaccuracy so long as it's true to the spirit of the time, it's clearly a stylistic choice instead of simple ignorance, and it doesn't claim to be accurate when it isn't. Just create a good product, that's all that really matters. Modern Vikingslop with it's goofy leather armors, furs, mudhuts, and "grey morality" about retarded marauding savages slaughtering unarmed peasants by the hundreds does not clear this bar for me.The thing people who don't study history don't realize is that it genuinely is full of really cool shit, and if you want to you can make something that looks awesome and is completely accurate.>>740758274>>740770645>>740796446>>740785854Always nice to see you Mesoanon. I will say, while this website is still ignorant and retarded, they do seem SLIGHTLY less ignorant and retarded about Mesoamerican history than they were a few years ago. I'm an author and after rereading Homer I'm considering writing epic poems in that style relating to some piece of Mesoamerican history. Right now I'm thinking either the life of Nezahualcoyotl or Eight Deer Jaguar Claw, but if you have any other ideas I'd love to hear them. Of course this project would be so niche it'd probably never be published and would simply be for the enjoyment of me and my friends.
>>740753679I've been trying to finish this game for so long now, I like exploring the world, like the side quests but for some reason I can't explain, I have to force myself to play it. Maybe it's because I already have 130 hours on it.
>>740797138Chainmail and steel were already known by even the BCs, Romans probably used more chainmail than they did the iconic plate armor everyone depicts them in. By the time of the Vikings, this style of ironworking would have already been known for over a thousand years, which is more than enough time for Bjorn the Raper and his people to at least learn about forging, and if it wasn't then he could just go and live up to his title and take it from someone who knew. The vikings were prolific traders and they had extensive trade with everyone around them, they traded with the Greeks, other germanics, and the eastern slavs. It's also easy to forget that they were shipwrights, you think their longboats didn't have iron nails or rivets?
>>740805656Yes, I've absolutely noticed an increase in the overall amount of awareness and knowledgeable about Mesoamerican stuff on 4chan in the ~10 years I've been infodumping about it, to the point now where a significant amount of threads on certain boards have other people reposting the information I give and debunking misinfo before I even get a chance to reply myself.As far as your poem concept, it depends on what you want out of it: Nezahualcoyotl and probably 8 Deer are heavily romanticized and somewhat mythologized by the later sources that discuss them, so depending on your goals that could be either a bad, good, or inconsequential thing. Other obvious candidates that come to mind would be pretty much any Mexica Tlatoani, Ce Acatl Topiltzin, Huemac, and maybe some specific Maya or Purepecha rulers depending on what you can get out of inscriptions and the Relacion de Michoacan, but you need to keep in mind that I don't read Spanish so there's a lot of sources which discuss prehispanic histories and specific rulers that I don't have access to which haven't been translated into English yet, and those might open up your options significantly., If you want, email me at saintseiyasource@gmail.com if you start to work on it, and if I have time at the time I can maybe help out some. No promises I'll have time tho, but also feel free to prod at me via email a few times if you really do want my input, if I don't respond it'll be an issue of me being busy rather then me not being interested, so following up to check in again and again is fine.
>>740754002the problem with pursuing mastery is that you have to be absolutely perfect or it's shit
