Am I the only one weirded out by Kingdom Hearts somehow beating Final Fantasy? Has it just been long enough that people have forgotten how shite Kingdom Hearts 3 was?
>>740761228Neither Kingdom Hearts nor FF7R are JRPGs.
Final Fantasy Resonance.
>>740761228Well KH4 still lacks even a release year, FF7R 3 is actually coming out next year but has had a fairly contentious run so far, and Persona 6 is literally a twinkle in someone's eye right now. So none. None of these.
>>740761228The truth about Kingdom Hearts is that despite the quality of 3. outside of /here/ most people still want to love the series and are willing to give it as many chances as needed since its only like 80$ tops to give it that chance.
>>740761228>KH4Looks like dogshit >P6Not even a hint of a video game shownFF7 Revelations looked okay I guess. Slim pickings.
P6 for getting that many views for showing nothing but a shitty looking logo.
>>740761343Anon that trailer hasn't reached 10k views yet. It's a literal afterthought...
>>740761435It's only contentious on /v/. Average normies like Remake.
>>740761576That's obviously not true considering how poorly Rebirth sold.
>>740761576Eh, even some normalfags and str*amers came out of Rebirth kinda mixed. I feel like most people were fine with Remake but all the bloat and story shit in Rebirth made even people who were into it a little iffy.
>>740761689Rebirth is the best selling Switch 2 game on Amazon.
>>740761753Yes but 4000 sales really isn't going to help much.
>>740761689Part3 will fix it
>>740761871With lower trailer views than Rebirth's announcement trailer? It had 2m views at SGF23 in the first 24 hours, which ironically kicks the ass of all the ones OP posted.
>>740761228For me? It's Xenoblade.
I have FF7 fatigue. They really, really should have made the remake one single game with only one playable character (that is actually fun to control, unlike the combat system they went with)
>>740762028For (You) sure, but trailers that haven't reached 500k probably shouldn't be considered "competition".
>>740762028Peaked with 1And actually peaked with Gears
Am I the only one who kinda doesn't like how the Heartless look now?They're too squigly and tentacley and (in lack of better terms) moist. Even in KH3 they looked more... solid.>>740762047I played Remake, FF7R1, and realized I had 0 intention of ever playing more of this. Much less paying for any more of it.
>>740761984They are avoiding spoilers, or already watched it on SGF.
>>740762264I assume its a side effect of ti being the "modern day" world and once they get around to showing us gameplay outside of the Introductory Darkside bossfight in other worlds they will look like their normal selves.
>>740762119It's not about player count or viewers, I'm more interested on a game with good quality.
>>740762392Oh, so you won't be buying Revelation then. At least we have something in common.
>>740761330Based and white.
>>740761569whatit has 288k views and a glowing comment section on the official channel>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbsfQYI_IIYare you one of those schizophrenics who are convinced reslop is the only way forward?
>>740761689Rebirth is just bad Revelation looks better because of no forced minigames nor shipping simulation They really should add rebirth summary
>>740762631"better" is a bit of a definitions issue IMO. It's better in the sense that it's finally ending, we're finally going to be done with this shite, and the job system (while tonally completely fucked) might be alright.Rebirth's biggest problem wasn't even the minigames, it was that it doubled down on the stupid plot Remake started introducing. That shit should have been kept to a minimum at worst and have been walked back at best. And that fucking pacing.
They're all dogshit>FF7remake was dogshit and i dropped it after the the first game>KH iv looks awful and the combat looks shit>P6 let me repeat the same dialogue for 100+hours with godawful side content>Xenoblade have no interest after the abomination that was 3JRPG was always a genre that's mostly shit the only good ones were shadow hearts and FFX and recently E33 and that's it
>>740762443How did you make that conclusion? You should work on your reading comprehension, you're making up things.
>>740762804>the job system (while tonally completely fucked)nta but how do you figure?
>>740762631>>740762804That's because they wanted equal time with Aerith and tifa. They moved on from that and made it more open and minigames won't be forced this time Sure pacing might be bad still but at least they are trying to improve
>>740762929Part of the reason losing Aerith hurt so much in the original wasn't just because you, the player, might have liked the character or because she had a minor crush on the protagonist but because your best mage/healer by far just bit the dust forever and she's never replaced. Part of the impact was that her super helpful healing limit break was gone. The training wheels had now officially come off and you weren't gluing them back on again.Now that anyone can just change job and become a mage/healer that entire impact is gone.Not that this series seems to have any idea how tonality works anyway.
What's wild to me is that Final Fantasy Resonance has a better viewer growth than Revelation.Revelation has managed 680k in 4 days.Resonance has got 300k in 15 hours and doesn't look like it's slowing down.People are really sick of FF7.
>>740761228Revival has the most views out of the 4
>>740761228Final Fantasy has spent the last few decades shitting the bed. KH only recently started shitting the bed with KH3 (and some of the spinoffs no one played). It hasn't burned through as much good will yet. If this is shit too KH5 will be doing modern-FF numbers.
why is Sega like another company from xbox, guys?
>>740763439Yeah the FF7R series has been a real disaster for the brand. You know it's dire when the mainline is competing with 2D-HD slop for relevance.
will kh4 even have any disney in it
>>740763859
>>740764258what!!!I say it because a lot of Sega stuff is always announced at the Xbox showcase.
>>740761228By sheer wow factor FFVII part 3 took the cake and the trailer actually makes me want to play it and the previous games now
>>740764209Yeah probably some of the most well-known live action movies. Final Fantash is completely dead in KH though, what used to be "Disney + Final Fantasy = Kingdom Hearts" is now "Disney + Nonura Autism = Kingdom Hearts".
>>740764339You are gonna be blocked by rebirth. I think rebirth is going to be a huge problem for Revelation
JRPGs are truly dead and have been for a long time.
>>740764510What's a good JRPG?
>>740763859>>740764318Back during the 6th gen after the Dreamcast died, Sega made a deal with Microsoft to port a large chunk of their library over to the OG Xbox, thus starting a good working relationship.Then during the 7th gen the 360 was the best machine for multiplatform games and so that good working relationship remained and has continued through inertia, only being held back from being more by the fact that outside of a brief attempt on the 360 Xbox has never cared about Turn Based JRPGs till now.
>>740764510E33 just came out last year doeverbeit and we have trails SC remake coming in September amongst a myriad of other titles speckled all throughout. JRPGs are doing fine.
>>740764590Ahh, I didn’t know those ties had existed for a long time and thought it was just Xbox deciding what to focus on, until they said they wanted to attract the Japanese players a few years agoThanks for no longer calling me a schizo
>>740764760But but new bad
>>740764760We aren't allowed to like those games Anon...
I liked what I saw of FF7REV
>>740762028It is the jrpg for me too.
>>740761228Xenoblade Genesis won
>>740765870Not with that shitty trailer.
>>740765937It will still easily be the best jrpg out of all games announced this summer
>>740765178Same here.
>>740765178Same, and it’s the 3rd game alongside Stellar Blade: Blood Rain and Stuntman I’m looking forward to getting on my Piss5. Only reason I’m not getting them on my PC is because I like having all my games from one series on the same platform if possible.
>>740761228>dogshit>dogshit>extreme dogshitDogshit genre.
>>740761228Nobody under the age of 30 cares about FF or KH.
>>740766616Based>>740767539I don't have a ps5 (at most a ps4pro) I have a pc and steam deck and I could tol rate rebirth more with deck. SB2 looks fucking amazing too.I'm hyped with Revelation, I just want to explore and wreck shit with Vincent
>>740767619I care about FF but not KHt. 28
>>740761228Jrpg is such a shitty genre they aren't even creative or ambitious with settings anymore, it's just an excuse to have below average gameplay and padded out timewaster shit all over the place
I'm not really surprised KH4 has gotten so many views, but what I was shocked about is how little views Final Fantasy: Revelations got. I've put 100+ hours into Rebirth, and it was super fun. As far as "anime" styled games, I'd say Persona and Kingdom Hearts cover that better than Final Fantasy does. I'm not surprised Persona 6 has the most views, but KH4 getting basically a million views in 24 hours was unexpected, but nice to see. It means the fanbase is still alive and well. It also means that a lot of people are still looking forward to KH4.
>>740761228Good lord did Sony show any JRPG's at their showcase? I can't believe they lost Kingdom hearts and FF7
>>740767731> I don't have a Piss5Good. If I knew what Sony would have become and done, I wouldn’t have bought the damn thing in 2021. Part of it was also because I didn’t have a PS4 and Piss5 had backwards compatibility. Hopefully they allow more freedom with party compositions in Revelation so I can have my ideal party of Yuffie, Red and Vincent.
>>740768154Nope. Out of the four (State of Gay, SGF, Xbox and Direct), Sony was the weakest and it wasn’t even close. I haven’t had a Nintendo or Xbox console in years (WiiU and 360 respectively) but some of the stuff there looked interesting. By contrast, I stopped watching State of Gay when the first thing that called itself a human being appeared and started talking. Only found out about the new “God of War” game when my friends asked what I thought of it a few nights back. Most of them are exactly the kind of people Sony hopes still exist in the millions who will come out and buy their games no matter what and wouldn’t be seen anywhere near anything coming out of Japan.
>>740761330>rpgs made in japan>not jrpgs???
>>740761228The P4R trailer is honestly awesome.
>>740768450This.
>>740767793You say this like we didn't just watch a bunch of normienigger showcases where the trailers blended together.
>>740768164I don't even know what the "best" party in Rebirth is. I just use whoever I think does the best damage or has the best damage mitigation. I always used Cloud, Barrett, and Tifa. Barrett is a walking fortress, but then when you get Yuffie, she is really verstile and becomes a crit machine, so I started using her and tifa for just pure damage. Cait Sith is fun, but he's a glass cannon support gambler and dies way too quickly. I guess you can him into sort of a pseudo tank if you wanted, but I feel like that isn't how you're meant to build/play him. I never cared to use Red, but he seems like an off-tank that deals better damage than Barrett, so probably can add more damage to the party than Barrett could, and Red has a life siphon ability. I know my Barrett rarely ever died in the later game once you stack him with tank materia and he can start battles with regen and protect. Aerith is absolutely worthless garbage. Her AI is awful and she dies super fast. The only way she is worth using is if you personally control her, and it sucks because she can do a lot of damage with spell-casting and her wards have some nice abilities, but the way aggro works in the game, the enemies just target whoever is attacking them or doing the most damage. There is no aggro-mitigation technique except for provoke, and that only triggers if a party member enters critical HP. Aerith would be a broken character if you could keep enemies from targeting her. Chrono Aegis helps somewhat, but not enough to make her viable. She is a literal glass cannon with magic, guess you could try building her like a tank mage, but I still don't think that would help. She is REALLY SLOW in terms of movement speed. She can warp but that doesn't help a lot. Cloud, Yuffie, Tifa and Red move so quickly. Cait Sith is really slow, especially on his Moogle ,so that makes him hard to use as well. I like using Cloud, Yuffie, and Tifa for just raw damage. Red has a better kit than Barrett though.
>>740761228For me personally? It's Xenoblade Genesis.
>>740761228Final Fantasy is the Star Wars of vidya. It's been utterly ran to the ground due to Square's incompetence.
>>740771175I have no idea what point you're trying to make, that jrpgs aren't shit because other games are also shit?
>>740772061You're a hypocrite
>>740761330FPBP
>>740768528They are action-adventure franchises that started out as rpgs. There is no such thing as an 'Action RPG / ARPG'.
>>740761228Atlus. Both their announced gaped both Square Enix's announcements.
>>740771752I still need to see more.And I dislike female protagonists.
Gamers
>>740761330>you can't date underage girls in it, therefore it's not a JRPGcrazy self-report by Atlusniggers
>>740776221It'll be selectable
>>740761228FF hasn't been good for 20 years
>>740761228>Another FF7 humiliation ritualThe future of the series is looking grim...
>>740774717They’re still rpgs though
>>740761228P6
are they finally going to make p6 look good instead of reusing the same shitty looking engine
>>740761228KH will probably eclipse FF in popularity after the FF7 remakes due to the younger fanbase, that was always the break glass in case of emergency for FF as a franchise anyways and that glass was broken 10 years ago
>>740778384Really shouldn't have made it a trilogy. If they'd just done it when everyone was hype and the PS3 was bare as fuck it would have been better than now.
>>740778993Hahahah oh you silly anon, you WILL get 3D anime again
>>740761228Revelation.
>>740763151>puts heal + all >uses yuffie quill tranquility Its not so deep, bro
>>740774717>Kingdom Hearts >not an Action RPG from the startWhat's it like being a tard?
>>740763151This is not a thing due to how materia let everyone do everything. >but kid me didn't do tha-You were playing wrong.
>>740779628fmli wouldn't mind it if was an improvement at least, but every game looks the past like 10 years
>>740780114The thing about retards and stupid people in general is that they don't realize they're retarded or dumb. You see it all the time. Complete idiots will never know.
>>740761228>Cringedom Sharts
>>740761753Show the numbers
>>740784057Allow me: >>740761809
>>740763151>aerith>best mage/healerNo one in FF7 learns spells naturally, you only get them through materia.
>>740762830E33 is a western RPG
>>740779760Brown.
