New DLC/Expansion announced!What's the early /v/erdict?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m964fNNSEiU>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m964fNNSEiU
Idk i never played this slop
>>740765386Why does it have the same name as DD1's dlc?
we are so back
>>740765386The worst video game ever made
>>740765473I guess nostalgia bait much, since Itsuno isn't there for originality
>>740765473because dark arisen was a pun on "black label" which is basically japanese gamedev slang "harder final version"
>>740765386Temu eldenring
>>740765487You are on wrong thread, this isn't soulslike game trade
KEKlike clockwork
>>740765517Technically it comes from fashion. normal clothes are white label, extreme high-quality clothes from the same designer are black label, it's basically a way of saying "this is the best we have" which is probably what itsuno meant by "we've really gone all out."
>>740765517We need the Darker Arisen version.
>>740765529Wasn't Elden Ring: Temu OG Dragon's Dogma though?
>>740765443>>740765487>>740765529remember to point and laugh at discordtroons
>>740765763Always
>>740765386What's the point of playing this when crimson desert exist
>>740765473cause its going to be a single 2 hour experience on a map detached from the main world and fix none of the core game just like dd1
>>740766130its better than crimson desert
>>740765386We will learn if Itsuno was the visionary that made DD a thing or not, I guess.
>>740765386if it runs on switch why not my pc
>>740766695because your toaster is worse than a switch 2, huemonkey
>>740766695You have a 1060.
NOW WHO'S CRAZY?
>>740766695>if it runs on switch why not my pcIt's going to run at 30fps on the switch, which is 'fine' according to consolefags.In there defense, I did play the first game at 20fps on the PS3 and still loved it.
>All the changes are just making the game even more braindead easy instead of actually trying to fix the friction mechanicsCan't say I'm surprised at this point
>>740765386I’m excited but I was really hoping for expanded Pawn social mechanics like dates. And having the ability to cook more meals. But it doesn’t look like this is a thing.
It doesn't interest me. Dark Arisen 1 didn't fix the first game. I expect this to go no differently.
>>740765743We'll have to wait for DD3:Darkest Arisen.
>>740769963What friction mechanics
>octoberThere is literally nothing going on for summer in terms of games, i should push my leave back a month or two because aside from palworld 1.0 and metal gear solid 4 remaster there is literally nothing in july or august
>>740765386>eternal ferrystone>instant stamina regen when you consume a stamina item if you’re exhausted>being attacked while down will cause you to instantly get up>oxcarts now depart from morning til evening They’re causalizing the game
>>740770657>instant stamina regenWas in DD1, Fuck off trooncord tourist
>>740770691I don’t care. I liked the DD2 system.
>>740765386>The stat boosts for Pawns inflicted with dragonsplague will now be reflected on the status screen.THIS WAS A THING!?!?!
>>740765568>>740765856What a waste of life.
>>740770908The thing is even if you know about this it’s so hard to keep dragonplague a lot of times it just goes away on its own
>>740765568>let me reiterate our evil plan
>>740771231Is there a way to prolong it before the pawn goes nuclear? Or a way to tell when they're about to?
>>740765386looking forward to it. hopefully we get more enemies. doesnt seem like there will be new vocations
>>740771231I played for around 50 hours and never once saw the dragon plague. It must be pretty rare.
>>740765473You know why. They're trying to appeal to the original fans.
>>740765386KINOINO>>740765443We know doomtroon, we know.
>>740765474>six instead of eight>not unlimited for kbm playersI hate console retards so much
>>740771374happened to me once in the main city. it killed like 50 of the town folks, including merchants
>>740765386Early verdict is that overall the additions are nice.I don't think it will "fix" the game but it will somewhat improve it.Not really hoping for stuff that were not showed in the trailer.
>>740765529DD has way better combat, not even comparable
>>740771437Back to your discord faggit
>>740771439Wtf is that? The Dragonsplague is normally just a cutscene and the town is killed.
>>740771478What prompted this reply now? Fucking retarded schizos in here too jesus christ.
>>740765386>itsuno is no longer part of the project>an update to the game gets released that actually makes it goodweird how it happened twice both in OG and now lol
>>740765568The absolute state of doomtrannies. KWAB
>>740771490the webm is unrelated
>>740765529The difference is that I actually like the combat of DD, I tolerate ERs combat. I tolerate most Soulslikes combat but hate that it's been the standard for action games for the better part of nearly 2 decades.
>>740771276>xhe is doing it rnLmao, jeet tier subtlety
>>740765743Vocation: doctor and engineer
>>740766130The raped? The gaped? The doomtrannie.
>>740765386>Le old boss is a zombie boss now!!!Grim.
>>740766130Whats the point of seething on discord?
>>740769867They said its impossible. They said its madness. They said its COPE. Now? Now they say nothing.
>>740765474Is this real? Because that was one of main complains about of dd2, outside of no random loot so exploration felt pointless and shit storyAnyway, not sure should I upgrade my xbox version or buy switch 2 one
>>740771507>itsuno is no longer part of the projectThank god that lazy hack is off the team, we can only hope his replacement is actually better.
>>740770657>being attacked while down will cause you to instantly get upwait, really? that's a huge improvement. the game loved keeping you knocked down for fucking ever before, it was damn annoying
Bros, not only are we getting six skills per weapons, but Wayfarer is getting rearmament baked into their core skills. This means if you decide to use three weapons each one can get two skills, that's huge. If I had to guess how they're gonna do it, every greyed out skill for another weapon in your skill pallette will swap you to that weapon if you press the button assigned to it.
>>740771939it's in the patch notes for the update in later August>today's updatehttps://www.dragonsdogma.com/2/en-us/topics/update/>August updatehttps://www.dragonsdogma.com/2/en-us/topics/update-notice/
>>740772131Ah i see they learned something from the vocation modular mod
When are they fixing the performance?
>>740765568What is wrong with them
>>740772157>3 save sotsSo you can have 3 characters?
>Pawns can now grapple enemies and draw their attention. I fucking told you for years that it wasn't in the game
>>740772131While using greyed skills to swap weapons is a pretty elegant solution, I expect capcom to fumble it and instead make rearmament Wayfarer's R1 vocation skill. I dunno how I'd feel about it, since the R1 skills are pretty integral to how vocations function, but then again six skills is six skills and Wayfarer being a bit worse than individual classes but having a more versatile skill selection kinda balances it.
Lotes. Home.
>>740772393I think it's just saying that Auto save, Inn rest and Save are now not mutually overriding one another. I wish it were more characters because then I could make more pawns to add to my custom party.
>>740772485>MMO shitNah
>>740772393that seems to be the case, yeswonder how it'll affect pawn hiring. will you be able to hire from any of a player's 3 saves, or only the one they loaded most recently?
>>740772527no, bro>Expanded the number of save slots from one to three.>Each save slot now holds three different types of saved data: Autosave, Interim Save and Last Inn Rest Save.3 save types for each slot, which are now 3 slots
>>740766130Why not playing both?
>>740765743Not gonna lie. That's some impressive char gen skills. 10/10. Would chimp again.
>>740772594>I already had 4 accounts to make a completely custom party>Now I can have 3 unique parties That's basically a pawn for every vocation. Noice. Veery Noice.
>>740772645a burger and a poopwill you eat both?
Dragon's Dogma: Dark ArisenDragon's Dogma 2: 2 Dark 2 ArisenDragon's Dogma 3: Dark Arisen: Bakbattahl DriftDragon's Dogma 4: Dark & ArisenDragon's Dogma 5: Dark FiveDragon's Dogma 6: Dark ArisenDragon's Dogma 7: Arisen 7Dragon's Dogma 8: The Dark of the ArisenDragon's Dogma: Menella & BrantDragon's Dogma 9: D9Dragon's Dogma 10: Dark X
>>740765386will we be having a blast, but for real this time or just another bait and switch?
>>740772789I already had a blast with 2
>>740772695we still don't know if pawns from every slot will be available to hire
The best news is the addition of six skills like the OG. This means that a third dragons Dogma game without Shitsuno will likely carry over the same control scheme with six skills.
>>740772485have they translated all the flavor text already? I felt like I was missing a lot of adventure vibes from that not being the case
>>740771374I see a lot of it but I just brine pawns with it.
>>740771507He is unironically the real reason Dragon's Godma can't reach its full potential. But it shouldn't come as a surprise, to be honest. Look back at DD1 and DDO and you can see the improvements between the two games. MMO may not be the best choice for the series, but DDO peaked with gameplay and open world exploration.
>>740765473Just like base Dragon's Dogma 2 was a mere sidegrade to Dragon's Dogma 1.
>>740772789Set your blasters to FUN, Arisen.
>>740772946it had some unique classes as well, DD2 classes are fucking boring
>>740765386I really hope we get at least a vocation or two, because we basically lost two slots on nothingburgers. A gimmick support vocation that cannot deal damage on it's own and must rely on braindead pawn AI, and a clunky implementation what could've been a "weaponmaster" archetype, except you got space for like 3 skills among like 9 weapon types, without even attempting to make any creative multi-weapon attack skills for it. I'm praying we get assassin and alchemist.
>Added the fast travel item Eternal Ferrystone.>Expanded the number of save slots from one to three. >Expanded the number of assignable weapon skills from four to six.>Added the pawn command Explore that can be used by holding the Go command button.>Pawns can now grapple enemies and draw their attention.>Pawns can now interfere with enemy attacks when the Arisen is downed.>Pawns can now protect the Arisen when they are unable to move.>Pawns can now suggest using large boulders when enemies are grouped together.>Pawns can now lure enemies to areas where the environment can be used.>Pawns can now perform follow-up attacks on enemies knocked back by the Arisen.>While grappling a large enemy, pawns can now pull the Arisen up and make them jump higher.>Pawns are now more likely to prioritize enemies targeting the Arisen when the player is using a ranged vocation.>When carrying an incapacitated pawn, pawns will now act based on the situation, such as putting down the pawn being carried if they are in danger.>Pawns will now act more quickly to attack or provide support.>Pawns will now avoid or guard against attacks more effectively.>Pawns are now temporarily invincible when being revived by the Arisen.>Pawns will now have a shorter hitstop when landing a charged attack as a Warrior.>Pawns will now more easily catch the Arisen after they have fallen from a great height during battle. Amazing what firing Itsuno did to the game
>>740772946Itsuno is a solid ideas guy, but appears to play really poor with crapcom's corporate culture and will never get the resources he needs for his vision™ because of it. Kinoshita seems to have a much better idea of what is actually achievable within given resource limits, and just puts his head down and gets the work done.
>>740772946Feels like a true Kojima moment. Was it really him back then taking the piss, or was it the publisher pushing him to release too early?
>>740772845It really never made sense. Not as if the control scheme didn't allow for it.
>>740772946TrvthCapcom should've fired his ass ages agoHe also raped dmc really badI hope they remake both dragon's dogma in future and give what gamers wants instead of some gay half baked vision
>>740772834Well that would be entirely pointless. DD is a pawn game, not an arisen game.
>>740773153Both. If DD2's plot is anything to go by, Itsuno really fucking hates Tsujimoto senior (and maybe the rest of them), and it probably comes down to who gets what budget. So it was getting released to early, and he was probably taking the piss because he planned to leave.
>>740773141>but appears to play really poor with crapcom's corporate culture and will never get the resources he needs for his vision™His vision was limiting players to only 4 active skills, when literally main attraction point of first game was using very situational skills sometimes
Feels good to play a dragon's dogma without shitsuno involvement Hope kamiya came back for dmc and make a proper dmc like dmc 1
>>740773153>publisher pushing him to release too early?Literally had nothing to do with dd2 problems, most of them came from original shitty game design ideas
I rather see a dragon's dogma made by ryozu and his team than itsuno
>>740773392I rather see ryozu under a bus
Isn't it funny how releasing game on nintendo console actually forced them to fix problems with it?
>>740773392Fuck this is some great bait, anon. Genuinely top quality stuff.
You could literally just remake DDO in RE Engine, put it online and it'll sell 5M+ easily. Let alone the concurrent players that would probably stay around.
>>740765386I still need to fully clear DD1, is BBI playable as a fighter? I like MK but I can't be arsed grinding sorcerer and mage for the augments. Also dragon's maw my beloved
It's insane to me that people still shit on Itsuno when EVERY modern Crapcom game has been fucking lackluster and a disappointment:>World released with lackluster content that had to be drip-fed with updates and expansion>RE2Make missed ton of content of original>RE3Make is like 30% of the original game>RISE released without a fucking ENDING that had be added with a patch>Exoprimal was a total flop>RE4Make is yet another case of cutting content from original game and replacing it with generic AAA filer and side quests>Wilds was a huge letdownBut no, DD2 suspiciously releasing days before JP fiscal year in the year where they had the Exoprimal flop and nothing else to brag about to shareholders is TOTALLY Itsuno's fault lmao. You guys are fucking retarded.
>>740773190Cope harder lmao
Funny how people defend gaystuno and blame capcom and mhwilds for doghitma failure DD1 was a 4/10 game and dark arisen turned it into a 7.5/10DD2 should be just bbi but 10x bigger
>>740773491dd2 sold 3mog ddo sold less than 300kNo, even with marketing money it wouldn't sell 5m
>>740773531>mhwildsthat game was also shit and rushed and lackluster, it's a common trend with nu-CRAPCOM but zoomers and shills will pretend their demakes are the best thing ever because they never touched the originals
>>740773532port the enemies over then
>>740773190>He also raped dmc really badby making all of the best games in the franchise?
>>740773491Remake all the monsters and vocations and items and armor and add it in DD2 please. Release it for free as well, NOW. oh and a modkit as well.
>>740773501At this point I think it's time you searched inward for the reason you hate everything.
>>740765386I sold the game two years ago... it was OK but kinda repetitive
>>740765386They're not even pretending to care. Same exact name and shit from the last game expansion. If they can't even bother to come up with a new name and concept, can you really trust they're putting in the effort? And everyone will happily pay another $50 for this trash. This is why capcux weebs are unparalleled goysumers.
>>740773496Yeah it's perfectly playable. There is a lich and a golden golem combo that are annoying without pawns but they aren't mandatory encounters.Should definitely get the cursed light holy sword for fighting some enemies.
For those who have completed the base game, are you going to start a fresh save for DA or continuing from where you left off? I feel like going in dry after such a long break might be rough.
>>740773505Pisstsuno is making a grand gacha game now hope you will buy it ;)
>>740773501Because people actually played the game and can tell difference between publisher decisions and insane faggot creative mind asshole director decisionsYou don't play games, so you obviously don't care.
>>740773501Mh gets a free pass since all mh base game except maybe tri sucks ass
>>740773616Fresh save once the August patch hits probably.
arisenbros, we won, I never stopped believing, but hand to hand combat class would have been nice. I'll have to do a challenge run now.
>>740773496Death is annoying af without blast arrows anyway, so it doesn't matter your vocation if you can't use them.The rest is perfectly fine after you gear up a bit. Flying enemies as usual are a fucking pain in the ass.
>>740773585With some luck, maybe we'll get some DDO crumbs. But I wouldn't count on it.
>>740773641There's nothing wrong with Itsuno's decisions in base DD2. The game simply lacks content. That's literally it. The foundation is 11/10, but they didn't have time for more enemies, dungeons, story, characters and writing.
>>740773501yet Capcom are still the best developers in the industry and one of the few making games still worth my time and attention.
>>740765386will we finally get a way to fight unharmed decently?
>>740773575>Turned a precise action game into a mindless juggleslop with reddit humour
>>740773604it's $20
>>740773532Source?DDON was a live service MMO with gacha and mtx, it probably made way more money than that, the only reason it shut down was because they shut down COG.
>>740773616I just started my ng+ and only reach bathal so I'm not going to start a new playthrough because I don't wanna lose my pawn and all his knowledge
>>740773710>The foundation is 11/10>4 active skills>buy teleports in shop>vocations suck ass, and pawn for some reason can't use it(reminder that explanation why pawns couldn't use some vocations in first game was self immolation)>no random loot, so no one ever did same dugneon twice>plot doesn't make sense, and makes even less sense if you played first game>travel sucks ass>some vocations like magic archer are locked behind almost end of game How about you go fucking neck yourself, you obviously hate dragon dogma games
>>740773616probably a new save, since I haven't played in a while and would like to get re-accustomed to the controls. I already have 2 finished savefiles backed up from from past playthroughs, so hopefully I'll be able to load them into the new slots before starting a 3rd one
>>740773616Hard choice, but I guess new character on switch 2
>>740773532It only released in Japan though, if they released it worldwide it would have made a shit ton more.
Not a single liked vanilla dd Give me a whole new game but only with bbi
>>740773896all of those issues can be addressed with a slider tool/variable change and more time to add content, literally none of those are "foundational" issues, you retarded faggot
>>740774039>director made decisions how game should be played, clearly retarded with team spending two years to back down on them after he was fired>lol just add slider lol he wasn't at fault game had 11/10 potentialFucking bootlicker
Not going use eternal ferrystone Already ruined my ddda experience with it
>>740774107Your loss
Even if you give shitsuno a billion dollars he would not make a proper dd game
Does the game still run like ass on PC?
>>740765743
>>740774192August patch will fix perfomance, but itsuno's poison reached too deep
>>740773738All it needs is a damage mitigation skill and to bring back the rings that make unarmed attacks do decent damage.
>>740773896>>4 active skillsFirst complaint is literally getting fixed in the next patch, and modders have fixed it for ages.
>>740765743Whitest Londoner
>mfw people still intend to give Capcom money after DD2 and MHWhy?
>>740774289>It's not director's fault because modders fixed it and game fixed it too after director was fired, it's evil company that forced him to do shitty game design decisions, actually no game design decision is bad if modders can fix itWhat a weird cope
>>740765386They casualized the game so fucking much with this update
>>740774324>DD2 was bad because of itsuno>all mainline mh games had exactly the same problems since dos
>>740771507Almost like he is a fucking mongoloid retard and he should exclusively be in charge of combat design (and even then DD2 dropped the ball with it) and absolutely nothing else
>the 2 Dark 2 Arisen schizo shitpost became realFucking kek, amazing.Updates looking real promising, 'specially the August one, hoping the DLC gives:>reworked augments>grindy endgame>proper hardmode>more content
>>740774382He was fired so he won't be touching any of these IPs anytime soon. Maybe if CRAPCOM gets him as a contractor in the future.
>>740773141So Kinoshita is an actual adult who gets things done and not some daydreaming faggot huffing his own farts and lying in interviews?
>>740774429He's known as KINOshita for a reason.
We dead it, we freaking did it!I am so proud of this community
Is Kinoshita directing the expansion?
I would like new vocations
Little girl pawns?
Unless they rework the enemies to be actually dangerous and not die in 2 skills none of this will matter jack shit btw
Question: my main save file has received the new specialization item ''Guardian'' Tome, ( alongside eternal ferrystone )my ALT save files ( PS5 ) have NOT gotten the new guardian tome ..?is it because some of those files weren't far enough in the game yet to have a Pawn Specialization unlocked?i tried closing the game, then starting it back up, no new tome. I dont absolutely have to have that new tome for my alt saves, just curious if it only gets dropped in your inventory by your pawn already owning a specialization or not.
They should remove the tranny poleblade vocation and replace it with Mystic Knight, the class of the White Man
>>740774593you buy it in the rogue village, now fuck off
>>740774503It's the assumption but nobody knows yet.>>740774429I guess. To be honest there's nothing wrong with ideas guys. Fundamentally, DD is Itsuno's brainchild, we wouldn't have it with out him hashing out the concept. He either needs someone better at managing his excesses, or more budget. Crapcom was clearly doing the worst of both.
>>740773896>vocations suck assall the returning ones are more interesing and unique than their counterparts in 1st game, and the new ones range from ok to amazing. obviously it's a shame that some of the original ones were discarded and the 4 skill slots limiting them all, which I won't defend>no one ever did same dugneon twicewhy would you want to grind repeated content? that's not interesting gameplay>plot doesn't make sensethe internal story of Vermund and Battahl isn't that great, but the overarching story behind the scenes with the Pathfinder and Rothais, culminating in the Unmoored World is super cool. it makes perfect sense including in relation to the lore of the first game, you just need to interpret it rather then being fed an explanation>travel sucks asstraveling is the best part of DD2, and massively improved over the 1st game, going out adventuring felt actually engaging. this update adding more portcrystals and the eternal ferrystones does diminish that experience
>>740774629>class of the white man>giant shield>keeps it strapped to the back>only occasionally uses it for sissy magical shit instead of a chad phalanx chad
>>740774324>give capcom moneysure
add that girl from pragmata as a pawn
>>740774693>all the returning ones are more interesing and unique than their counterparts in 1st game>trickster is amazing
>>740774723creamapi doesn't work with capcom games
>>740774775Trickster is a literal waste of a vocation slot. Wtf were they thinking with that shit.Maybe it'll be super-effective against some new mobs in nu-BBI, but until then it's a disgrace.
>>740774593
>>740774693>there are "people" (indians) that actually want you to pretend that the gay faggot mystic knight replacement and the homo incense class that literally doesn't do damage are anything beyond mediocre dogshit
>>740765386game is looking better while running better now. Ty Capcom…I love u.
>>740774775improve your reading comprehension
Prob mentioned already, but yeah.. they've entirely defanged all sources of tension in the game.. starting early on with killing off ''dragon's plague'', and soon many foes will have their knockdown damage neutered, or at least their lunging attacks will be slowed down so they're easier to react to. The Warrior vocation will become baby mode, if the patch notes are to be believed. However, i do think part of the reason why knockdown is getting nerfed is due to the entire playerbase deciding to go all in on Dwarven Smithing their gear, so maybe new additional smithing styles will come into play in the new DLC region.
Did they brick the mod that actually upgrades enemies from punching bags into actual threats with the update?
>>740774881but they haven't dropped the performance update yet... I think you might be hallucinating
>>740774916Did they actually nerf enemies? when they are the literal easiest, most toothless monsters that have ever been put into a game?I thought the "enemy adjustments" patch was supposed to come later
>>740774889Maybe it's a DLSS improvement because my DD2 was running way better than when it released a couple of months back and there wasn't even a talk about DLC yet.
>>740765386>Added Volumetric Fog Resolution to the Graphics section of the Options menuDo you guys think we're actually be able to disable it entirely in INI settings like you can in Wilds?I hate this dogshit so much in modern games that it actually makes be quit them sometimes and RE Engine is the worst offender by far.
>>740774779I know, but creamapip is the only one of these dlc unlockers that have a logosomething something reframework plugin
Desu exploring the open world was fun both in Dogma 1 and 2, even if I prefer the everfall/BBI dungeon crawling. Kinda worried there won't be a lot of dungeon crawling in this Dark Arisen, maps looked pretty open. Undead dragon looked amazing, it was my favorite dragon to fight in BBI. Cautiously excited for this DLC even if the unfixable problems like half the vocations being shit and the soundtrack being generic slop will remain. Sole reason I don't blame Itsuno but Capcom for DD2 being underwhelming is that the game very clearly got shafted in the budget department and you can see this from the soundtrack alone. Instead of inviting Shibata back the got some goons generate the music on grok lmao
>>740769867>The hints were realCrazy
>>740775141I never doubted.
>>740765386>I didn't make a game to be liked by everyone>Now buy it again as i patch it to be liked by everyoneIf you buy this you are engaging in a actual humiliation ritual.
>>740775191You’re a moron.
>>740775043yes fog is one of the simplest things to patch out you can probably even do it with reshade.
>>740775191Shitsuno mad a game that was liked by no one, because it was hilariously badYou're a retarded nigger and pretending to be like objective dogshit will never make up for the fact that you don't have a real personality, do your parents a favour and get on with that suicide you were planning months ago
>>740775230>you can probably even do it with reshade
>>740765386WHERE IS THE PAWN ROMANCE, CAPCOM
>>740774693>all the returning ones are more interesing and unique than their counterparts in 1st gameSorceror is worse. >tripped it of utility spells and debuffs>took away the staff swing and aerial charged shot blast. >Took away the different charged shots depending on enchant.>Took away manual aiming for Tornado spell>The attack spells are all worse with the exception of that exploding tag spell.>FOUR skills instead of 6
>>740775138>Undead dragon looked amazing, it was my favorite dragon to fight in BBIthat's the ur-dragon we saw
>>740775458It’s ok.t. 400 hours of DDDA sorcerer and 200 hours of DD2 sorcerer
>>740775365reshade is more than just a post process filter its a directx/vulkan hijack tool similar to dxvkremix officially from Nvidia that does the RT mods on games.
>>740775458>>Took away the different charged shots depending on enchant.that's a good thing HFB ruined sorcerer
They’re removing this???!!
>>740772789Genius gaming arrangement. I'm sure he's got a pissboy (like a jamboy) nearby to hold the bottle while he receives himself too.
>>740765386>What's the early /v/erdict?HOLY SHIT IT'S NOT ABANDONED
>>740775620DD2 is healing... are you ready for your blast?
>>740775672>HOLY SHIT IT'S NOT ABANDONEDIf this was Pearl Abyss, TU 3.2 would be done by next week and the expansion the week after.
>>740775620>they listened to influencer outrage two years AFTER the outrage happened Ok…
>>740775458>tripped it of utility spells and debuffsThis is what annoyed me most, that and not enough spell slots to have one of each element. I don't care if it's useless, I want to petrify shitty goblins that dare annoy me.
>>740765386It still looks like shit along with dragon's dogma 2 in general. Though Capcom took a turn in the right direction with Resident Evil and Pragmata, so maybe once it's all released and modded I'll grab it from Steam. I've squeezed the original and Elden Ring pretty dry.
>>740775809I’m so glad DD isn’t gookslop.
>>740771506> Core game mechanic revolves around choosing a loadout. > BuT muH kb MmmmhhhhuuuuusssslurpEmbarrassing.
>>740775809Maybe, but- I honestly thought Crapcom was being Crapcom and had completely abandoned DD2. The announcement in the Direct of all shows caught me completely off-guard!
>>740775620>they're actually trying to make it a real game and not a scamKINOSHITA REIGNSFIND SHITSUNO AND SKIN HIM ALIVE
>>740775620They need to remove the fact they sold teleport stones to people
>>740775935Only retards would buy it. Not my problem.
>>740765386Dragons Dogma was always trash. How it gained a fan base is beyond me, like WHY? Nothing about Dragons Dogma is worth talking about, at all. I'm convinced the entire fan base is just 2 weird dudes.
>>740765386>MOAR DD2!!!see bros never let go of ur dreams
>>740775910>ignores the first lineI accept your concession
>>740775990Itsuno went on and on about how a game with less fast travel is good but then went on to sell them as dlc
>>740775991Don’t attach Heather to your awful post, nigger.
>>740775141Capcom's marketing team has been having fun doing these sneaky teases hidden in seemingly nothingburger promo art attached to random tweets, they did it with an RE4 sales milestone announcement to tease RE9
>>740776064Damm he did that?
>>740776064Ferrystones are little more than return to town portals without portcrystals anyway. Selling those was the real problem.You could sell 99999 ferrystones and if players only could return to the main town until they got the portcrystals through exploring and playing it would be the same as not selling them.
>>740776083>replying to tripfagsYou're a dumber nigger than he is.
>>740765568>>740765856What's the point in shitting up threads?
>>740776128you stupid retard nigger.
>>740774406I agree maybe DLC and hopefully please dear God let us make dwarf like pawns without needing to use mods.
>>740772946Moronic slander. DDO launched with that pants on head retarded rage mechanic they only toned down later on, and it was the one to first make all vocations single-weapon. Two of the new vocations were just red/blue hybrids 2 and 3 and the kind of thing you'd see in a random gook MMO.Itsuno was also not the one making the entire fucking game. He may have reeled it back from becoming pure action, but Kinoshita was still the Lead Game Designer. And despite some good changes, now he (supposedly) is the one dumbing the game down and sucking soul out of it again.Besides, a bunch of these were unlikely to have been explicitly denied by Itsuno, and some came from post-launch feedback. I seriously doubt he really wanted there to be exactly 4 skills slots. They may have even had more core skills in mind to justify it but had to rush the game out early.This may sound like Kinoshita slander at this point, but that's not the intention. It's just that neither is a genius, and Itsuno deserves credit for just bringing the series into existence in the first place. It's only a shame he's been particularly obsessed with weird and not very fun playstyles lately.
>>740776004>>740773491KHAZAR MILKERS!
>>740772758> Not Aris3nOne job.
>>740765386What are the odds Capcom actually listened to the fan survey from way back? I would love to see the results. And it’s damn funny DD2 is only seeing updates as MHW flops.
>>740775991Legitimately, what is your plan hereIs it just schizo posting?
>>740776123https://www.ign.com/articles/dragons-dogma-2-director-explains-why-less-fast-travel-can-be-a-good-thing
goblens
>>740772946>>740776214Oh but admittedly I don't know what the fuck was going on with that interview. We may never know.
>>740775809>trying to set up infights between CD and DD2Nice try
what's up with the goblins? why are they so fucking mad and all over the place?
>>740765386why is the ur-dragon in the overworld? wasn't he stuck in that pocket dimension forever
>>740776306The channeled the Molyneux spirit in all its autistic glory.Because in hindsight almost nothing checks out with what they released.
>>740776296He was right. The game is too casual now.
Please make sure we can have fanservice outfits please and create shorter characters. I will pay DLC if I have to.
>>740776342>>trying to set up infightsIs this how the schizo mind works? God forbid people make comparisons these days.
No co-op = no interest.
>>740776064>Itsuno went on and on about how a game with less fast travel is goodHe's right>but then went on to sell them as dlcPretty sure that was capcoms decision
>>740776424>>Pretty sure that was capcoms decisionCapcom would only be saying "I need you to add more DLCs". What it is would be their own choice and he chose fast travel
>>740776368>implying it wasn't one of the easiest games in existence beforehand
>>740776540And now it’s even easier!!!!!!
>>740776368>Travel is boring? That's not true. It's only an issue because your game is boring.https://streamable.com/edwc0k
>>740776306He's a piece of shit liar who hates you and wants to steal money from you without actually earning it, not hard to comprehend
>>740776642Itsuno is redpilled
>>740774429KINOshita will make things right.
>>740776214>my favourite wannabe rockstar game dev would never make a shit game for the second time in a row because he's retarded!Lol, Itsunoniggers are subhuman faggots and i could not be more happy that their gay little idol has been banished to an AI gacha company
I don't mind killing 1000 goblins but it would be nice to know their motivations, giving me a reason to care
>>740772131Fucking finally.Now I can play the game.
would be nice to play as a goblin too, to see the world from their point of view. Would make the conflict feel more personal
>>740776686How hard do you think shitsuno is seething, down in his jail cell in the pyramid scheme company he now resides in?Two times he was given full reign to make the supposed game of his dreams, two times he released straight fucking putrid dogshit and two times he's being usurped by an actually competent director who will be remembered for being the guy that made Dragon's Dogma actually good
Reminder still no moon
I just want some dungeons to crawl…
I fucking love Dragons Dogma, holy shit
>>740775043Fucking baby dear lord.
>>740776720Both games are good though, which is why I'm here. Why are you here seething instead of enjoying good games? Not even these necessarily.>>740772131Are you sure that's what it is? Shit's too vague, could be a radial menu but still called through rearm or something.
>>740772131Literally why the actual fuck was this not how it worked originally? they have absolutely zero excuses for warfarer, hell 4 skills as well were outrageous
>>740776834He took money from the Chinese. He is Subhuman.
>>740776879The moon eclipse is right front and center on the Dark Arisen dragon and is directly addressed in game. They’re hiding something.
>>740776964We are not doing this bullshit for the third time
>>740776758their motivation is that you're a stupid human and thus need these large rocks thrown at you
>>740776879Wait for Dragon's Dogma 3 Dark Arisen 3.33, anon. It will happen.Someday.
At this point i'm convinced Hard Mode is definitely coming with the DLC or as a surprise in the August update.
>>740776171To get the attention they didn't get from childhood
They should reuse the skeleton of the medusa/brine snake to make a Jormugand miniboss
>>740765568>>740765856I love how these kinds of people have evidence of their jewery and weird subterfuge, but all they have against their opposition is "they say things we don't like".How they can sit and feel morally superior is beyond me.
>>740777000Nice trips….
>Itsuno famously hates nintendo>After he got fired, dragon's dgma dlc that fixed his mistakes is announced during direct, for no reason at all. It wasn't even port announcement but straight up dlc trailer>Itsuno hated DA for going against artistic vision, and demanded to be in charge for any potential dlc for second game>DLC name is literally Dark Arisen againIt's like entire reveal was directed to mock him or something
>>740765386Looks like shitwhy do we need to pay for an "engoodening"? Capcocksuckers will buy anything
what is the future of this ip is it like megaman now or someshit
>>740772485my man
>>740777061Itsuno hates Nintendo? Proof?
>>740777079It's a get out of jail card anytime CRAPCOM needs a little extra revenue to present neat graphs during their investor calls.
>>740777019They're harkening back to dark arisen so i guess they'll make it bullshit hard like the OG
>>740776895the expansion is adding 12 to the main world with unique items . hopefully they're meaty and not just a single room with a set of enemiesand hopefully the new region has some of them as well
>>740777061Being Dark Arisen again fits perfectly with the game’s theme of recurrence just like how the title drop in 2 is just Dragon’s Dogma again instead of Dragon’s Dogma 2, and the overall meta narrative and themes going on.
>>740777113dragons dogma online 2 in re engine?
>>740777019Probably a given. The problem is that if it's designed for NG, we might just end up back at slightly harder than old Normal considering the buffs. If it's designed for NG+, NG is now just easier. Or it could just be another retarded implementation with higher stamina drain and moneybags out the ass.Ideally there'd be more than one harder difficulty.
>>740777061>>Itsuno hated DA for going against artistic visionMaybe his vision is fucking dogshit, did he thought of that?Knowing that i have no idea how people expected DD2 to be anything other than mediocre dogshit
>>740774324Because tourists aren't human and both of these games were good despite their flaws.
>shitsuno gone>Capgod suddenly turned a 4/10 game into a 9/10Really makes you think
>>740777079It's the misshapen, neglected autistic stepchild that all the other siblings pretend doesn't exist and who's parent only remembers to feed it once every 6 months like an abused goldfish
>>740765386If they fix the perfomance issues (unlikely) I might actually play it all the way through this time
itsunos vision
>>740777245You’re a casual asshole
>>740775065Wait, there's a reframework plugin that does that?
>>740776040Weak.
>>740777212Dd1 was peak dogshitIt was only saved by dark arisen
>>740777268Kek
>>740777248they're fixing some of it in August. we'll have to wait and see how much it improves
>>740777162Don't tempt me with good dreams...
>>740772131>every greyed out skill for another weapon in your skill pallette will swap you to that weapon if you press the button assigned to it.I hope it happens, that with six buttons almost makers true warfarer mods obsolete.I would do another pure warfarer playthrough if that happens.
>>740777061>>Itsuno hated DA for going against artistic vision, and demanded to be in charge for any potential dlc for second gameI could genuinely not be more happy that he got fucking banished from Capcom, what a retarded, arrogant nigger lacking anything to actually back up his overinflated, manlet tier ego
>>740777268Lmaoooo
>>740777248Perfomance patch in august
>>740777294Raping enemies and walking around in the overworld with my retarded pawns was fun, that's all that matters in a videogame.If you disagree, you're a nigger.
WHERE MOON
>normal mode prices...wait, that means dlc will add hard mode, right?
>>740777340Is Itsuno following Nagoshi's fate?
I can't get over how fucking cool that chicken dragon thing looks, too bad it's a DD2 enemy so it'll be completely harmless and be raped to death in 5 seconds
>>740777518There is a casual mode that made ferrystones cheaper.
Between Wilds and DD2 i'm starting to think that maybe Capcom should start automatically flogging anyone who speaks of "artistic visions" for what they want to do with a game and instead put people who actually like videogames and playing them as directors
WHERE DO ALL OF THESE SHITSUNO KEKS COME FROM??? ITSUNO IS THAT YOU????
>>740777308>>740777370Alright then, ya got me. Kinda sucks that it took them 2 and a half years to get it done, though, must've been the same old corporate bureaucracy bullshit getting in the way.
I hope the new enemy reskins have some personality to them and aren't just "good enemies". Goblins, ogres, cyclops etc all having their own quirks is what makes DD enemies more interesting.
So do i have to play the entire game as it is right now and then do the DLC right after or should i just wait until DLC and play the whole thing together.I wonder how are they gonna go with it.
>>740777591Some people were genuinely mindbroken by DD2's state and failure, and i don't mean mindbroken in the shitpost shitflinging sense i mean their fucking brains went into full on defensive mode to not have their minds collapse in on themselves so they entered some kind of hallucination where they actually believe of all Itsuno's Todd/Molyneux tier lies and that instead of a mediocre, unfinished excuse of a game they're engaging in a piece of art
>>740777575There was clear progression from mh4 to world and from 4 and world to wildsYou can dislike it, but literally main idea of mainline monster hunter since dos, was wasting your time on non fighting monsters shit. It should be telling that first addition to monster hunter psp version was a fucking farm, just so you wouldn't need waste your time on walking and gatheringon the other hand dd2 was clear regression from original game concepts.
>the new forced sophistry is that Dragon's Dogma is good but Itsuno is badok>>740777340or you could stop believing random bullshit posted by retards
I Wonder How the Bestiary mod maker feels.Best modder for DD2 hands down
>>740777781>Shitsuno nigger damage controlYou lost.
>>740773501>Exoprimal was a total flopWhile it underperformed in sales without a doubt, it was also a complete and really fucking great game. So I would ask that you take it out of your whore mouth while mentioning it among those others.
I hope ryozu direct the next dragon's dogma
>>740777687Don't bother. You won't like the game anyways
>>740777747If you haven't played it, wait until august patch, better loot and 6 active skills are just too big things, and really greatly improve your experienceOr just wait for dlc, but you'll miss on discussions with people who went right to it
>>740765386Steam page says DA is the first of two title updates. Is the second one supposed to be Hard mode?
>>740778009you read it wrong. the two title updates are the ones that came out today + the one in August
>>740778009Six skills and class changes, mostly.
>>740778009I hope to god it isA proper enemy scaling to lvl 200, proper stamina and inventory managment new monster variants that only appear in hard mode
>taking down Shitsuno's pay to win garbage>lowering the price of the game altogether>things like item price/enemy adjustments and actual dungeons like, y'know, a real gameIt's like the new guy is trying to apologize for his bullshit
>>740778064Shit, I did.
>>740778093They've already released the patch notes for the second update, there's no mention of Hard Mode.So either it's a surprise (that we should've had at launch), it's locked behind DLC paywall, or there's just no hard mode.
have any super autists noted all the new and returning outfit and weapon models from the renders and screenshots yetthere's a longsword from DDO for instance
>>740777736this
>>740775521I actually went back to have another look and... yeah. Fucker is bloody huge. That's not a carrion feeder. You might actually be right.
>>740765386why is that dragon jewish???
With niggertsuno gone i hope they actually EXPAND on mechanics from BBI instead of just copying and pasting them, the carrion lure mechanic was sick and hopefully they do more with it
>Helm display on off toggleTHANK GOD
>>740778392Dragons are personifications of vice and hatred of God
>>740778392Stop noticing.
Will they do anything about the lack of skill slots though?
>DLC coming up>Crapcum still using the same composer>fighting massive monsters to literal white noise still puts you to sleepThe original game unironically had top-tier boss music. Why did they completely ditch that style in DD2? They had high-tension soundtracks and abandoned that for generic ambient tracks that work much better as sleep-aids. DLC is going to be dead on arrival if the music remains this lackluster.
fix DD2 by>adding sphinx breeding mechanics(animated, fully voiced, new system to handle the 9 month pregnancy with mandatory doctor visits and an hangry wife you have to feed cows to to calm her down)>add a snow sphinx breeding mechanics for the new one we saw in the trailer>add a pawn breeding mechanics and the mandatory transformation into daimon, coils of light playing 24/7>>740777736they should borrow GW1's mob set up or how Darktide/Vermintide do it where there are different 'classes' of mobs within a species that do different things, so they add more challenges and randomness to the fight
Shills trying to prop this DLC up by shitting on the literal creator of the IP is certainly a choice
>>740778261Yes, from yesterday
>>740778392He's evil
>>740778502Yes.
>>740778519The original game only became good after another guy stepped in and turned it into a dungeon crawler
>>740778503How hard is it to mod music in DD2
>>740778519>itsuno doesn't deserve to be shat on for things like this >>740772821
I was contemplating on buying this game on many occasions as the first one lives rent free in my head, but I was put off by the lack of Mystic knight. Is there a way to make a melee/caster hybrid in DD2?
>nerfing enemies Hell fucking yeaaaaaBased capcom finally listening
>>740769867I always trusted the plan
it's a shame but DD really shines the most when it's a dungeon crawler, navigating dark lit rooms with your pawns, solving puzzles, getting ambushed by monsters, dreading whatever horrors you may face down the line...
So are they going to add more monster variety in the base game as well so you don't end up fighting 10 gorillion little goblin shits for 99% of the map?
>>740778519>>740778580This is the tactics they have been going with since the dlc rumors and steam movement:"Dark arisen literally fixed DD"
>>740778580No it didn't, most of the stuff people love about the first game (Grigori, Mercedes, dark nights, running into huge monsters in the open world) is all stuff that was in the vanilla game, not added in DA
>dd2da credit rolls>No shitsuno nameb..based
>>74077872512 new dungeons, all full of goblins.
>>740778705Almost like poor man's skyrim was a fucking abysmal target
>>740778808AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINOT LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!
>>740778627he deserves to be praised for saying that. if you feel offended by it, then you're the problem
>>740778643Yes
>>740778875Ok fine there is a cyclops final boss
>>740778705That is why nobody liked both vanilla dd but bbi turned a stinky poop into a nice steak
>>740778950
>>740778643the Mystic Spearhand fulfill's the role of "melee guy with spells", although it plays differently than Mystic Knight by focusing more on movement rather than parriesand there's the Wayfarer vocation that lets you combine skills from any vocation
>>740778627>has nintendo living rent free in his head>the announcement that the saviour of DD1 whom he personally despises for ignoring his autistic meme vision that never amounted to a good game is now returning to fix his stinking shitheap of a ""vision"" yet again was announced in a nintendo direct alongside the news of a switch 2 portOh he must be fucking LIVID
>>740778808>goblinsSaurians actually.
>>740778430Where?
>now that dark arisen is here secondaries are gonna shillfag to death and the game is gonna sale 20 million copiesas usual no one will ever understand the appeal of eurojank, always doomed to be rebranded for normie taste.
>>740778989Well I was just mainly looking for a melee class that can supplement the fight with spells. Ironically, I didn't care about the shield of MK that much. Seems like a good time to give the game a grabbin'.
>>740773728
>>740779190Crimson Desert is already better who cares about this
>>740772157Cool but still doesn't seem to be an real point playing this game till DA comes out and adds a bunch of new dungeons and content and hopefully fix performance.
CAPCOM REIMPLEMENTED DYNAMIC WOUNDS IN THE LATEST UPDATE!
>>740779190they're already celebrating that mechanics that make DD unique are getting gutted in the updates
>>740779286Lies, the game has shit performance requirements, barely runs on consoles. Also I got the Dragon and then the boss immediately afterwards is impossible. If they've changed or fixed it then maybe I'll forgive but I seen something the other day where only maybe 5% of players have actually completed it.
>>740779319Is that something they removed from the game?
>>740779301the patches are for poorfags because kinoshita cares about the little guy when he makes stuff. He always puts stuff in for people who for some reason don't want the DLC.
>>740779379Yeah it was nerfed hard in 2024 but its back now. Very noticeable
>>740779345Such as?
>>740765443fpbp>>740765473have you ever heard the term "lazy cash grab"?>throwaway announcement at a direct>no significant expansion>nostalgia bait for cultistsliterally textbook "w-we are so b-back" style marketing just to squeeze the remaining retardsand its working just look at all the delicious cope itt
>>740779434Sick.
>>740769867hey man, would you have stayed the course if they all just believed you?
>>740779392Kinoshita unironically is a much better director for the series than Itsuno is, a third game directed by him from the ground up could be amazing both the original DA and DDO were great so its good to hear he's back for this.
I am now remembering Seeker's Tokens.
>>740779510>throwaway announcement at a directit was the only good announcement in the Direct
>>740772131>took over 2 years to add minor change everyone asked for>"w-we are so back!!!"kek so SAD
>>740779510>no significant expansionThis isn't Tears of the Kingdom, it's actually a new region.>'''New''' Zelda game mogged by DLCHow many times is TOTK going to take this beating?
>>740779704Did you collect all of them?
>>740779434Think it had anything to do with performance optimization? I can't even see why they would remove it in the first place outside of a placeholder emergency fix if it was implemented with issues.
>>740779345>Shitsuno niggers be like "yeah i loved it when i spent 2 hours walking and nothing happened"
>>740779854It was removed when the game saw performance fixed in September 2024 yes, and only now it’s back. No one found a way to add it back in on their own.
>>740779686Well to be fair, itsuno wanted to make vanilla DD2 for over almost 30 years, but kept getting plagiarized and derailed and force to work one everyone else's (broken) stuff. The man has had literal bad luck for almost 30 years, and when he finally had massive budget he chose DMC5 over DD2, because he felt that's what fans preferred. DD2 was him finally making his preferred game, 80s tier eurojank with detail autism.
>>740765743He returned to monke
>>740780062Wrong. They did DMC5 because of how bad Ninja Theory fucked up DmC. Literally had to get Itsuno to step in and fix it.
>>740780107>make shit upGood talk. Leaving the thread.
>>740776306>>740776367Figured I'd actually go back to that interview without relying on IGN this time. Something other than shtiposting fuel for a change.Bullshit 1 (Sphinx context):>Kinoshita: 特別なコンテンツなのにけっこう隅っこにいるんで… なんかそういうのが他にも>Itsuno: いっぱいあの、ね…>K: いっぱいいますよそういう>I: …なんやろ>K: 大型モンスター>I: そうなんですよ あんまり詳しくは言えないんですけど 贅沢に作りましたNo idea. Both sound like they were high and had no idea themselves what they were trying to say, but it was either about large monster variety (lol) and/or content nobody will stumble upon (more likely but also lol). An exaggeration at best, but I suppose they had the Medusa and that tower dragon in mind.Bullshit 2 ("actually, it does"):>K: そういうとこに行かなきゃ手に入らないものとかも結構用意されてるので>I: そう だからねいろんなとこ(?) こういうの無いんですかと言われたら ”まああるんだけどね”みたいなNow that sounds familiar. Probably talking about shit like Sorcerer meister's being hidden behind annoying-ass quests where even finding them is the easy part.As in,>is Maelstrom not in the game?>well it is, but...The implication is specifically that some things you won't find by "just" playing the game and not exploring. Not entirely false.So the translator definitely amplified the bullshit, but he had no proper context, so.
>>740779839I collected enough to get the mage staff and fuck the rest of them. The tinking sound of the Alchemist passive that tells you they are near is engraved into my brain, and the thought of having to do that shit again fills me with dread.
>>740780209Come to think of it, there was Talos and the UW bosses as well, maybe they counted those. I wouldn't. And>贅沢に作りましたmay just imply that they made unique monsters without giving a fuck if some players never encounter them. Technically checks out.
>>740779704>tee hee arisen go find the place where you picked up your first seeker token>comb the entire starter area because I didn't want to just cheat with the mod>don't find shit>use an interactive map>go through all tokens in the starter area, none of'em there>finally install the mod>it was the one on the bell tower of the big church in VernworthRetarded ass mechanics.
>>740773110>A gimmick support vocation that cannot deal damage on it's ownWe saw in the trailer how the trickster now have damage spells
>>740780062I mean if DD2 is really his "dream game" then its shit, honestly I do think he was screwed over while making DD2 and it was released in a rushed incomplete state similar to the first game thats pretty obvious and likely what led to him leaving Capcom but it still doesn't change that it was basically just a inferior remake of the first game with lots of the same issues at the end of the day.If you want to see what Kinoshita vision for DD really is you shoudl play Dragons Dogma Online private server the game is actually really good and much better than DD2.
>>740780454It's probably just a knockdown skill. Having just one specific damage skill when even the ult doesn't deal any wouldn't make sense.
>>740765386No new classes?
>>740780454No you didn't. you saw a big dragon claw come down but not the effect.
Why does /v/ act like this game is terrible? I played it modded as a fem Beastren and I had more fun than with DD1.
>>740780498I played DDON when it came out, up until they canceled it.I think Kinoshita is a good developer, but holy shit the fanbase has changed completely. I think I'm fond of a different era, and I'll probably avoid /v/ for this one.
>>740780624Completed it like 7 NG+, maybe 2-300 hours and still never played as a Beastran. Maybe I should once the DLC releases
>>740780624>I played it as a modded furry goon characterBecause you're fucked up in the head and attracted to animals. Go see a Doctor you fucking weirdo.
>>740776361Now is tied to Daimon as the one who killed his pawn gf
I am kind of fascinated about what went wrong with DD2 development wise (which I thought was a good game just not a GREAT one and hugely missed potential).I don't think we're ever going to really know the truth, which is a shame. No amount of posting 'shitsuno' or 'GODshita' will ever get at what really happened. There are some really cool ideas buried in half-baked implementation (trickster, unmoored world (granted I do think unmoored world is the coolest thing in the game) - deliberately including friction in travel but the issue is this is let down by the low enemy variety and un-random loot).I do find some of the metafictional elements with the story interesting but at the same time it's hard to fight the feeling of other elements being halfbaked.And then there's the possibility the game was sent out to die for MH Wilds...Dragon's Dogma 2 bore the sins of the RE Engine otherwise performing well for other games before it. It's a really bizarre game if you think about it with a clear head for longer than five seconds.I had no complaints about art direction, I'm going to miss the art director for any future DD project...
>>740780287Same as me then
>>740773501Pragmata was pretty good.
>>740765386Did they fix the character creator or is the one in the first game still Superior, I really want to play the game, but I'm not willing to spend 10 bucks on an inferior product, I need my pawns to be perfect otherwise what's the point...
>>740765386>eternal ferrystone, an item we had in 2012, finally added to the game after 2 years>port crystals permanently placed at all the main hubs>portcrystal cost reduced from 10k to 5kit's a start but what the fuck were they doing for the past 2 years man
>>740780872I think Itsuno simply got the short end of the funding stick. By the time it came out and Crapcom realized it's a money maker, the bridges were already burning and Itsuno was fucking off. They most likely scrambled to start development on more DD but the onboarding process was probably fucked and so it took years to come up with a DLC. Japs can't into project management.
>>740781089Literally fired Itsuno and then got a B-team to fill in the patch updates.
>>740781089>wanting the game casualizedWhy…?
>>740780872Shitsuno wanted to make an immersive sim and not a game but he had to use the DD IP, the current devs are trying to salvage his mess.Thats how i understand it
>>740781231Portcrystals and ferrystones being slightly more accessible is not casulization.Now back to your tranny discord
>>740781231Anon, there is nothing difficult about walking across an entire map to turn in a quest for 200 gold. Tedium is not difficulty. I'm all for a true hard mode and them making monsters way stronger thoughlebeit.
>>740781168Well the funny thing is that he supposedly was already about to fuck off before DMC5, but they genuinely considered him a valuable asset. That's how he got to make DMC5, and that sold, so DD2 was greenlit as well, only they didn't have any real faith in it.The DLC I imagine was planned from the start but could have been cancelled had the game sold really poorly or if nobody even wanted it. They did have that option in the survey. Work on it probably already started back in 2024.
>>740780624How was the performance? Also, what sort of mods are "needed" or am I good to go vanilla?
>>740781467The performance still sucks and is expected to until the August patch. I'm not him btw but I was burned by buying it day one.
I still don't get what pawns even are to this day. Like what the fuck ARE they?
>>740781370There's charm in this "tedium", however, that evidently filters casuals. Casualization is never just about difficulty but about accessibility as well.
>>740780384should've paid more attention to your adventure rather than just going through the motions, dummy
>>740781552NPCs that are aware they're NPCs
>>740781552appendages of some greater being that lives in the riftIt can't leave the rift itself, it can only 'stick its hands and fingers between the bars' as it were so pawns are how it experiences the worlds beyond its own in some small way
>>740765474I'm going to cry tears of joy bros
>>740781607Naw nigga, I spent A LOT of time in the starter area, I absolutely refuse to believe I didn't find a single seeker token until I decided to climb that damn bell tower, many hours later. Of course I can't prove it but I will test it next playthrough to see if it's fucked or not.
>>740781089I played DD2 for 250 hours and never felt the need for an eternal ferrystone or more fast travel spots
>>740781515I'm still expecting it to suck after the August patch. What kind of magic could they pull to make towns not run like shit aside from reducing NPC density even more? Hell I'd take the same performance if they could make them stop fading in and out like ghosts at least. On the GPU side it's already not even that bad.
>>740781758This
>>740781552synthetic krabby patty
https://frvr.com/blog/dragons-dogma-2-dark-arisen-was-built-specifically-to-address-fan-disappointment-of-the-base-game/ excuse the news site reposting but I think there's something interesting here. copying the important part:"In the press release, Capcom explained that the paid DLC is built “to offer greater accessibility and additional content, with the aim of delivering an experience that satisfies not only fans of the series, but also those playing Dragon’s Dogma for the first time.”The DLC has been built “based on the wide range of feedback received following the release of the main game” back in March 2024. While it’s been a long time since the game’s March 2024 release, the Dragon’s Dogma team has been hard at work on major under-the-hood improvements to the game. "Not all these words are verbatim from the Dark Arisen 2 website, so that means Capcom is deliberately presenting Dark Arisen 2 in press releases as having been built off feedback from DD2. Pure marketer speak shit? Sure, possibly. But I think it's interesting they're trying the 'win back peoples trust and enthusiasm' approach. It's strange to see Capcom impliedly admit to shortcomings. My issue is this still doesn't get at the most important exclusion, hard mode. But that'll probably come with the dlc itself.
>>740781758Being able to deliberately jump off a cart halfway even when dozing off is definitely welcome, but yeah the rest can fuck off. Way overkill.
>>740780660>I think Kinoshita is a good developer, but holy shit the fanbase has changed completely. I think I'm fond of a different era,I also played DD1 on release and DDON when it was still running so I'm not sure what your really talking about, if you mean the modern fanbase for the game is reddit and cringe yeah i'd agree with that and miss the days when it was just a small community but I don't think Itsuno vision for the series is some infallible thing that hasn't been surpassed by others desu.
>>740781804I hope they took the feedback from the survey to heart.Pawn sex and pawn hugging.
>>740770657Yeah, it kind of sucks that they could have made the game better without dumbing it down but I guess they are just going for the most cost effective and easy option instead of doing something like:>Eternal Ferrystone is a reward from some late game quest, you can now insta-travel between portcrystals by using them, allowing you to create a "free" travel network that you still need to travel too in order to use for free or complete a large part of the game before you can just trivialize the entire fast-travel system>Insta stamina Regen from crafted items but not food/ingredient items, you now have a cooldown until your allowed to use the next item in your inventory, cooldown is based on the "quality" of the item used, the better the item is the faster the cooldown is>Being attacked while downed will now allow you to counter attack/block which knocks the enemy away from you and allow you to recover more quickly>Oxcarts actually working in a logical way is better for the game, the one change I don't think they could have made better in any wayThe problem with the way the game created friction for players before was that it wasn't as much "friction" as it was "brick wall" in a lot of cases which just made people not want to engage with things in the first place while at the same time there are some downright bizzare design decisions that have carried over from the first game that actively makes it worse by removing friction (insta item using/healing). It feels like whoever was in charge of these elements of the game tried to compensate for the game being way too lenient in some ways by making it disgustingly irritating in other ways, never finding a good balance between the two extremes.
>>740781804>They still think the problem people had with DD2 was that it was too obtuse and unforgivingEither they're retarded or just being deliberately daft because they're not gonna get the budget and resources to fix the actual problem with the game (not enough content)
>>740781896Only his vision really works for what the series is meant to be which is comfy fantasy adventuring. Kinoshita's approach may very well be better suited for an MMO or just a different kind of game. If we get DD3 directed by him, I expect whatever it ends up being to have been better off as a new IP.
>>740781552they're physical representations of the negation of free-will the series is themed around. as an arisen you're given a taste of what it's like to command those souless husks, before you ascend to senechal and learn that every being is a soulless husk acting in a meaningless stage playand they also embody the theme of humanity's indomitable will. just how an arisen can disrupt the infinite cycle with sheer stubbornness, a pawn can break free of its chains and gain a will of its own after inheriting that human soul
>>740781804There's no way they're implementing 6 skills slots without, at minimum, a hard mode
>>740781552Normies, they are an allegory for people without purpose
>>740775919I was having a blast!
>>740781804>It's strange to see Capcom impliedly admit to shortcomings.They damaged not only Dragons Dogma but also Monster Hunter, they need to regain trust
Will I be able to make my loli pawn?
>>740781981>Eternal Ferrystone is a reward from some late game questYou get as soon as you get to Vernworth and talk to Captain Brant at the tavern.
>>740781981The "remove instead of improve" approach always pisses me off to no end. Far too common.
>>740778626It's very bothersome otherwise I would've made a mod for it already, theres plenty decent ddo tracks
>>740781804>It's strange to see Capcom impliedly admit to shortcomings.It's because it's a smaller IP with nothing to it's name save for 2 games
>>740781990>he says just as a dlc was announced
>>740781804I need new GOOD vocations and hybrid vocations before I can give a shit about hard mode or anything else really
>>740781467>Also, what sort of mods are "needed"Basically all the mods by that Spanish autist and a few other ones.>or am I good to go vanilla?You'll enjoy vanilla if you like Assassin's Creed games.Bestiary - Aggressive Enemies and Variantshttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1196Durnehviir - Dynamic Enemy Encountershttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/883Dullahan - Modular Vocation Overhaulhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/817Weaponlord - Unique Weaponshttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/948Gear Progression Overhaul (good gear moved into chests, loot randomization, re-spawning chests ect)https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1171Equipment Stats Overhaul - More gear becomes viablehttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1254Boss healthbar overhaul - display correct boss's healthbar instead of closest bosshttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1331No unintentional movement - No more 'immersive' AAA game auto actionshttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/960Survival System - Lose max health overtime, eat food (out of combat) to recoverhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1324Guild Contracts - Monster Hunting Quest Systemhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1341Melodies of Gransys - Music Overhaulhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1169Carry Me Senpai - Princess carry your pawnhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/301Extended Sliders - Lets you give cats proper ears, women actual hips ecthttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/902Pawn scaler - Yeah, 'that' modhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/298No more niggershttps://degmods.com/game/Dragon's%20Dogma%202
With 6 skills implemented, the thief vocation is going to be more bullshit. Warfarer doesn't have the Formless Feint and Blades of the Pyre skills, so they suck. I don't give a shit how many weapons they can use.
Lipstick on a pig the game is still fundamentally garbage in so many ways I still have PTSD from traveling through Battal.
It's hilarious that they, for some fucking reason, took 2 years to fix what modders did in a fucking week. Japanese corporate culture must literally be hell on earth in order for something like this to happen. If DA2 doesn't come with a hard mode then it's still going to be worse than the original and still prove that Capcom isn't listening worth shit.
>>740782454they're probably not changing the height limit. use a mod for that
>>740781467After the August update or DA you can just do vanilla honestly, with 6 skill slots and some of the other QoL it'll be mostly fine as is. For a first playthrough, at least.A lot of the mods will be broken anyway.
>>740782889This only happened because MHW flopped
>>740782454You were able to do that with mods for ages
>>740779686No, he's the retard obsessed with the>1 vocation = 1 weapon (unless it's a shield)idea, which is cringe and extremely limiting for vocation design
>>740783251Ok then why did Itsuno do literally the same shit in DD2?
Pawn hugging minigame please
>>740783251>>>740779686>No, he's the retard obsessed with the>>1 vocation = 1 weaponHis oc class, the assassin>sword>shield>daggers>bow
>>740781515Performance is a fuckton better than at launch, the game is just extremely CPU heavy so that anyone with a weak CPU is going to have a bad time regardless of what settings they use. The game went from being completely unplayable with tons of stuttering on my old 2070/i7-8700 rig to actually staying above 30 FPS at all times with most settings on a mix of high and max with RT fully enabled.>>740781773My guess is that they have probably rewritten a lot of the game logic under the hood in order to make it run on the kids toy that is Switch 2 since it has a CPU that is worse than even the 'eck with a graphics card that is about on par with an 'eck, which at the moment can't run the game at all above 20fps even if you set all the settings as low as they can go. The only other way they can get it to run otherwise is if they just remove all NPCs from the game that isn't directly tied to some quest or event along with any/all foliage in the game.
>>740781804>no new vocations>vocations are still single weapon (except warfarer)>trickster and faggy anime man are still in, Mystic Knight and Assassin aren't>mages and sorcerers are still way too similar to each other to warrant the distinction>spell selection for mage and sorcerer gutted>archer still has a terrible skill selection, with the retarded special arrow mechanic>still no way to wield axes, true spears or halberds>sluggish movement and inputs>most bosses are still braindead and become a joke past level 20>mob encounters are repetitive as shit>static spawn system as if it's 2012 still>story is nonsensical and rushed garbage>voice acting and dialogue is extremely soulless>characters are extremely soulless, compared to DD1 where they were not particularly well written, but at least they were memorable>the beastren region is a huge narrative and worldbuilding void>the music is infinitely inferior to DD1Yeah, I don't buy it
>>740781804Their dogshit engine tanked DD2 and MH among other things so the nips should learn how to optimize first.
>>740783431kinoshita convinced him
>Adding more stuff to do in game I enjoyed = bad ree ree reeeee
>>740783431its anyone's guess really
>>740783251>(unless it's a shield)Why did they even bother making shields a separate piece of equipment if you can only pair them with a single weapon type and only the one vocation can even use them? Why wouldn't they just make one-handed weapons and shields into a set that act as a single piece of equipment like the daggers?
>>740784207because the game was rushed and the design process clearly halted prematurely so they could get into full intense development and asset making in time for the March 2024 releaseSo many things are clearly half baked and forsaken by the designers
there's a bunch of new shots of pawns/arisen with new armour/weaponsI like this one the most - it looks comfy
>>740781804>But I think it's interesting they're trying the 'win back peoples trust and enthusiasm' approach. It's strange to see Capcom impliedly admit to shortcomings.Between axing the pre order in game bonus shit and straight up lowering the game's price they seem to be strangely focused on restoring trust and goodwill that got atomized with the base game release, which is something that not only did i not expect from a modern company but least of all from a japanese giant, especially fucking Capcom of all of them.
>>740784271>game was rushed>originally it was supposed to be released before Sunbreak, before being delayed and given more time
>>740784287Trickster looks dope. And I hate playing trickster.
>>740784409>originally it was supposed to be released before Sunbreakthere's no way that's true, considering it only entered pre-production some time after the release of DMCV
>>740784467Literally capcom leak that told us about it's existence
>>740782758Kek, thanks. I'll check them out, and thanks for linking the mandatory mod (you know which one)
>The base Dragon's Dogma 2 game will receive a permanent discountWaitGODS we won so fucking hard.
>>740784718All games get discounted over time, bro…
>>740784271I've never understood this shit, why would a game ever need to ditch design decisions during development? I get that they need to stop making large changes to the game but doing something like adding MACES to DD2 when the first game had them shouldn't be that hard even mid dev since all they would need to do is:>Create a new category of weapon called "Mace">Create assets for said category>Reuse literally everything else in the codebase to support it>Change the statistics of maces slightly so that they have more knockdown power but less raw damage if they are feeling fancyI should know, I've done it in a few games before without access to an SDK. If a retarded mod dev like me can get shit like this to work in about a weeks time then how come that no one at any AAA studio can do the same with much more experience, access to the source code and entire teams of people behind them?
>>740784770Those are sales. This is the base price, which will then be FURTHER reduced by those same sales.
>>740784718A game with mixed reviews at 70 or 60 is basically a game that is not going to sell, meanwhile one being sold at 40 but with at least good reviews will
>>740784837No, those are not sales. Base price reductions are common for all games that have reached a certain age.
>>740784617Just checked and https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/Nickesponja/mods took all the overhall mods down, maybe a game update broke them or something.
I unironically think that there's some higher up at Capcom who absolutely loves Dragon's Dogma cause after the reception DD2 got they could've just killed the IP and no one would've batted an eye
>>740784807anon... DD2 does have maces
>>740784718That's unfair, they should have one class as pay-to-unlock for the newfags to be fair with the permanent discount and the faithful
>>740784409>>originally it was supposed to be released before Sunbreak, before being delayed and given more timeWere they fucking jerking off during the entire development cycle for literal years or something?
>>740785297Yes. That’s why they removed loli pawns in the end.
What the fuck does "Enemy Adjustments" in the roadmap even mean, are they gonna make monsters not pathetic punching bag jokes?
>>740784807sorry we only have Cudgels here
Why do people like warrior so much. It feels like shit.
Does DD2 have an "endgame" like DD1 did? Just wondering about the amount of content overall.
If they ACTUALLY want to win my trust then they should redo the entire story(hopefully cutting it), rebalance the game so that it's an actual challenge and give this big retard a reason to exist
>>740785516they already released the patch notes. Enemies are being made even easier so they don't stagger the player as much, attack as much when you're crawling, and certain enemies attacks have been made easier to avoid.Yes, they've done the opposite of what the game needs for some reason. Pray for a secret hard mode update.
>>740785708NoYou thought the everfall was lackluster? well this time you're getting NOTHING.
>>740785708No, as soon as you beat the dragon and get to the 'postgame' (which is barebones anyways), you are put on a timer that will eventually end the game
I really hope capcom raped itsuno whole career for ruining both dmc and dragon's dogma
>>740785708kinda, but "genius itsuno" put a hard time limit on it, so you can't even have real fun with it
>>740785660Unga bunga
No loli no buyDragon's dogma was always a extreme right winger game meanwhile dd2 is filled with disgusting dei wokeshit
>>740785793Guess i was a fool for trusting this game for even a nanosecondHope the DLC flops so they finally kill this series for good and we can escape this song and dance from repeating again
Its funny how almost 99% of dragon's dogma problem came from shitsuno
>>740785660The fantasy of being a swole barbarian with a giant sword that sends enemies flyingAlso when DD1 was around Berserk was still all the rage
>>740785793They're probably going to completely drop the basegame like a leper and go all in on the expansion which will have bullshit hard enemies like BBIIt's actually incredible how hyperfocused this game is in repeating every mistake DD1 commited, it genuinely feels like it's a bit
>>740785660the feeling of landing Arc of Obliteration is something else
>>740785881Also remember that at the end of that you see a gigantic kaiju dragon with a unique design that you slay......in a cutscene after climbing it for a bitHis KINOVISION was truly too much for us common mortals to comprehend
>>740776247He based them on the titles of the Fast and Furious movies, basement dweller-san.
>>740784287I like this new hairstyle for my pawn.also new tattoo's :oLets hope they bring back high / grand Gicel for Sorcerer. very bizarre that such a big spell was missing in base DD2.
I'm honestly still so pissed off at the absolute state of DD2 and crapcom that I simply cannot allow myself to be even a little bit hyped.I don't even think this is real proper endgame either, just you fighting snow wolves and snow harpies in a game that still vastly inferior to DD:DARAPE ITSUNO!!!
>>740781804they consider it a major IP now, if they nurture it they think it'll pay off in the longrunif they pull it off then they can do a DD3 or DD1 remake and have it also do well. not everything needs to be resident evil big
>>740786325They added new hairstyles?
>>740785940>pedo opinioninto the trash
>>740786469>not everything needs to be resident evil bigTo Capcom it does
There is something cosmically funny about making a game centered all around it's excellent, complex combat and shitting on all that work by making it braindead, musou tier easy
>>740786532Yes.
This won't be full price if I own the game, right? This is a dlc expansion, not a new game purchase, right?
>>740786532later on when dlc releases i'd imagine.Will UR-dragon be back as an online super raid boss? will it have its unique mechanics like in the original? personally i've never gotten into that Ur-genning rabbithole.
>>740786469>Major IPYou can't have an open world 3d RPG be in the 2 million sales range anymore. Nothing major about DD2, it is straight up a flop.
>>740786363BasedFUCK NIGGERSUNO
>>740786532>>740786695I should clarify that this is listed under the DA2:DA page on the DD2 website. I might be exclusive to the DLC.
>>740786695Needs to remove the armour restrictions entirely if they want to actually allow people to make unique pawns. Thats actually what I really hope comes in the DLC or something, everyones character looks the fucking same so It doesnt matter who you take, for a game about sharing characters thats pretty bad.
>>740786708It's an expansion, yes
>>740786782yeah it's listed as the third of the three dlc additions>new region>new dungeons>new character creator shit
>>740765474IT'S FIXED>IT'S FIXEDIT'S FIXED>IT'S FIXEDIT'S FIXED>IT'S FIXEDTHANK YOU KINOSHITA
>>740786708It's a dlc anywhere that isn't the Switch, dunno how much it'll cost especially since the basegame got a price reduction but i imagine 25/30 bucks if it's an actually big expansion
But what about Pawn romance?
>>740786768It made them 4 million and the "Major IP" statement comes directly from Capcom themselvesIt has an absolutely venomous reputation but it made them money, otherwise they would not be doing this entire redemption song and dance or even bothering with an expansion
>>740786916Shut the fuck up Daimon
If they can fix DD2 with this expansion, I wonder if they can fix Wilds with Ascendance.
>>740765568discordtrannies can try again and again, nothing will ever match the positivity and passion of blastchads and actual gamers, nothing
>>740786741I expect the zombie dragon main villain to be a mix of Daimon and the Ur Dragon, so maybe they'll try to mesh the two fights together in some way
>>740787008NOOOOOO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH
>>740787057>Generations Ultimate game designerYes.Wilds unironically found it's proper stride with the 10 star events and they managed to make hunts not a perma stunlock joke, problem is that they didin't fucking change the rest of the roster to follow suit
>>740786695Fucking nice. I like these new hairstyles a lot.>>740786802Exactly. Trickster has one of the best female armors in the game, and yet they're arisen- locked. If they let us transmog clothing freely or remove armor restrictions entirely, that would be such a huge win.
>>740786916>pawn romanceProbably never
>>740786949Its funny, if all they did back on DD2's release day was put a few cosmetic microtransactions on offer, like hairstyles ect. it would've been fine. ( see MH Worlds & Wilds shop acceptance )Riftcrystals and Portcrystals on the store were a mistake, especially since RC was fucking worthless all the way up until the dlc.The bad rep came from normalfags not having reading comprehension and blindly trusting jewtuber secondaries.
>>740782758Is there a no more cats mod? I guess I could go with one that makes them regular catgirls and boys without fur and the disgusting faces.
>>740787391How did you get a picture of me right now
I fucking hate how Dragon's Dogma is the only fantasy game to have an actual medieval feel and aesthetic (minus the cats n niggers in 2 but you get what i mean) and yet it's cursed to be this mediocre pre alpha excuse of an empty, unfinished mess of a gameLike take this design for example, if an artist at Fromsoftware dared to show this to Miyazaki for a possible boss he would have a heart attack and go on a deranged tangent about how it's not "dignified and tragic enough"
