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Redditors bullied an indie studio into censoring their own characters

Lol
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>>740765460
Kek
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>>740765460
Why would I be attracted to sluts?
I don't want a whore with bpd who'll scream at me every day or try to murder our child
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Wtf I care now.
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>>740765460
both of these are AI
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>>740765460
>Look, we did what you asked us for. Would you buy our game now?
>crickets
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>>740765460
Can't wait to see more upvotes than players
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>>740765460
The old designs btw
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>>740765460
Stay on Redd*t
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>>740765460
The left unironically looks better.
I also never got the point of soft fanservice like in Xenoblade 2 and Stellar Blade. Either make a regular game or go all the way and make a H-game.
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yeah lets just make every single female video game character look like a whore, that will surely improve both videogames and society
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>>740765780
But that's more sexually charged?
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>>740766024
they're all lesbians
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>>740765780
>>740765460
They need to stop listening to PTA mom core bitches and their obedient simps. Just make what the fuck you want. Whores or not. It's a market gamble if it will take off or not so you might as well do what you want.
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>>740765460
Old on the right, new on the left, right? I suppose it depends on what you wanna do, but I don't see why sexy designs are a huge problem unless it's too out of place in your work.

I'm the kind of guy who feels you shouldn't ask people what they think of your designs or shit like that, because what do most people know about designs? Will they understand things like shape language or interesting color palettes? Course not. Ask them if the writing was interesting, if a level segment was too hard or if a mechanic was explained well enough. Unless you're a huge whore who just wants to cash in on a trend, you should stand behind your work.
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>>740765780
????
How the fuck that lady with raven hair is considered less sexy than women on left
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>>740766051
That just makes me rape them even more. Saying a character is a lesbian is like cheat code straight into my lizard rapist grugbrain strain.
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>>740765780
>reddit post is about how they are changing their designs because they were too sexy
>inflated the women’s breast in response
?!
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>>740765882
Filthy Muslim
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>>740766160
Ok, jeet
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>>740765780
>>740765460
They should bully them more so they get more inflated
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>>740765460
>If you have boobs you can't have a personality
????
Also those were normal outfits? This is like having a baldie making male characters bald LMAO imagine being this jealous
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>>740765460
Will be really funny when the redditors don't buy the game.
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>>740766127
Anon is baiting. This is from an old post, where they changed the characters on their own. Then reddit told them to get rid of the tits so they changed them again and now they look like the left side in OP
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>>740766127
The dresses are less elegant.
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>>740766160
Ok, Chad
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>>740765460
>listening to reddit in this day and age
ngmi
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>>740766251
Yes, i agree. Inflate them. Like balloons.
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>>740765460
Meanwhile on steam.
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Why post a screencap of a thread without even linking it for me to laugh at it? Gay.
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>>740765460
>sexy women are dumb whores
>r*ddit is feminist btw
Why do i have the sneaking suspicion that sales are gonna plummet because the new audience is 10 or so trolls on r*ddit?
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>Asking reddit to design your game.
lmao enjoy your flop
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>>740766572
posted april 1
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>>740765780
>Old
>Not same face
>New
>SAME FACE, SAME FACE, SAME FACE
Grim.
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>>740765460
AND, HERE'S THE KICKER, NONE OF THOSE VIRTUE SIGNALING FACGOTS WILL, OR EVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF, BUYING IT. THOSE INDIE DEVS ARE ABOUT TO LEARN A VALUABLE LESSON. REDDITORS ARE JUST VIRTUE SIGNALING BITCHES THAT LOVE TO COMPLAIN JUST TO COMPLAIN
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>>740765460
They should be bullied till they are dressed like women in the middle east
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>>740766478
Oh, that's the name. Let's see this:
>Black Ledger is a story-driven management game where you run an antique shop by day and a criminal network by night.

You're really telling me that, in this story taking place in a late Victorian to Edwardian era, these female criminals can't show boobs? That's how you visually communicate when a woman is a duplicitous character, with shifty eyes and cleavage. Or you can do the Jessica Rabbit thing and make it a bait and switch to fuck with people. Anyhow, way to stand behind your art.
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>>740765780
are the devs trolling?
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>>740766826
>Stand behind art
its AI generated
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>>740766826
>Oh, that's the name
It's in the OP
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>>740765780
Wait they got more boobs in the new ones
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>>740766646
Let's be real, their face isn't what you're going to be looking at 99% of the time.
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>>740765460
>Redditors bullied an indie studio into censoring their own characters
More like the indie studio decided reddit was a worthwhile place to get feedback from and sabotaged themselves.
Every fucking dev that decides to use reddit as their primary feedback hub ruins their game beyond repair.
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>>740766478
>15 minutes ago
This is so obviously fucking OP trying to start a shitstorm.
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Damn if only women could wear different clothes depending on the situation, like have a frumpy librarian outfit for the boring dayjob but a sultry outfit for crimebossing at night.
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>>740765780
>>740765460
That was the previous iteration here are the actual new designs after leddit
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>>740767237
It's random shop customers, not the crime chicks
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>>740765460
I mean, fine, but the art looks on the tier of the millenium series, or some other rpgmaker trash.
On top of that, the game itself looks uninteresting as hell. Maybe some tits would've actually salvaged it.
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just so we're clear here these were the original designs which are posted here on the left >>740765780

the ones posted here >>740765460 are what they changed them to (on the left) AFTER asking reddit for feedback the first time, making them sexier to be the big titted left ones, then making them less sexy based on even more conflicting reddit feedback

the account is on the indiegaming sub being incredibly proud of generating nonstop drama and "taking a stand" to the point even the subreddit moderators apparently felt the need to remove the post as clear trolling. or, more likely, an incredibly transparent attempt at generating interest in what looks like a pretty fucking generic game! the redditors on the sub are repeatedly ripping into it and all of the dev poster's comments are downvoted into the negatives.

this is clearly to get artificial engagement for a boring game, why are you falling for it
>yet again?
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>>740767394
>nooooo don't talk about woke devs, you're giving them le engagement by telling everyone how dogshit they are
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>>740765859
>Stay on Redd*t
This. It's "viral" marketing.
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>>740766478
that's a lot of free publicity
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>>740767296
they're all the new designs, you left out the flat chested redhead
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>>740765460
Left is hotter
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I would honestly agree looking at the low cleavage window on the right that I would assume that it was an erotic indie game or something. If that wasn't what they were going for then they were probably right to change it.
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>>740765460
Redditors are the biggest fags and the biggest retards imaginable
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>>740765780
Kek based devs trolling ledditors
Name of the game
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>>740767296
>>740767476
fucking kekaroo
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>>740767476
that's clearly AI
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>>740767476
Cute ginger loli
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>>740767149
what about this place? time and again vee proved to be living in an echo chamber
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>>740767476
What's exactly character driven about this
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>>740767565
>>740767296
Hello marketers
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>>740767394
i think this will be the new "woke" marketing; pretend to make your game less sexy and then turn it back when it causes a controversy
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So the developer asked for feedback on reddit and did the exact opposite? That's actually a smart move
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>>740765460
wow does that mean all those redditors are going to buy the game now???
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>>740767437
yeah man the more attention you bring to something the more attention it gets. you new here? you want idiots spite-buying this to "own the chuds" and generate a million articles on whatever moronic equivalent has replaced kotaku and polygon in the gayyymer collective consciousness?

if even the blithering idiots of reddit aren't falling for it you should see the transparency

btw the way more offensive thing here is that the rest of their artstyle lacks any form of cohesion. what the fuck is this? tiny-headed "barboyman" looks like a character from a completely different game than the other man or any of the female characters no matter what their art style is. pick a fucking lane.
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>>740765460

They still look like whores. No burka, not even a hijab.
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>>740767664
All me, no kidding
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>>740767604
/v/ is the opposite of an echo chamber.
It's a hell of shit acoustics and drowned signal where noone can hear a goddamn thing anyone else says, and just screams their own shit into the abyss, hoping it'll somehow fight its way through the noise like a sperm cell mid-egg-raid, into somebody's mind.
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>>740765460
Wow, that's a complete shift. If you felt like the right was too extreme that's one thing, but going from 9/10 sex appeal to 2/10 is a wild overcorrection.
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>>740767719
>nooooooooo 100 anons on /v/ saw a shit game, now it's gonna have 30 millio nsales
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>>740767604
>what about this place?
can you be banned for making shit post that doesn't align with /v/ ideas?
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>>740765460
and yet it would be totally out of line for me to expect real, flesh and blood women to wear less revealing clothes. we must not depict women as being as as shameless as they in fact are.
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>the breasts get bigger the more you complain about them
Peej would be proud.
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>>740765460
what a bunch of freak shows
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>>740767895
real life women can wear what they want, fictional characters can't consent to you making them whores
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>>740765460
freakin weridos man
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>>740767604
The only echo chambered opinion on /v/ is that nobody can agree on anything. It's perfect for devs to anonymously post in but they'll get hated on for shilling if they reveal too much so that much secrecy is not worth it.
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Why the fuck would you ever listen to people who are not going to buy your game in the first place
I get constructive criticism is a valuable thing to have, but these aren't mutually exclusive. Why do people do this
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>totally not a religion guys hehehe
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>>740766206
big brain moments
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>>740768021
I once got banned for shilling a game by starting a thread like "oy m8s I worked on a game that just released on Steam, have a few keys". Ironically if you just dump keys in some related thread without saying it's you, it's fine even though everyone would know it's you? Jannies are fucking bizarre.
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>>740767895
Reminds me of the UK, where they tolerate real cousin mariages but actively ban porn of it.
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>>740765460
A big part of making a successful creative product is knowing how to parse feedback, so knowing which retards' opinions to discard and which to keep.
That's terror.
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>>740767895
>>740766258
they dont mind sex appral, they just dont like the sexist/racist audience that sex appeal attracts
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>Black Ledger is a story-driven management game where you run an antique shop by day and a criminal network by night.
>After your father's death, you arrive in New Haven. What's left of him is an old antique shop, a list of unanswered questions, and a black ledger.
>Wealth is not the goal here. The question is how far you're willing to go for revenge - and what you're willing to lose along the way.

>The shop is your livelihood and the face you show the city. Each day, customers arrive with items of their own heirlooms, oddities, things they shouldn't have. You inspect, appraise, haggle, and decide what's worth taking.
>Every piece has its own value, condition, rarity, and risk. Some are clean. Others are hot enough to bring trouble through your door.
>As your shop grows, you'll display more, attract better clientele, and find safer ways to keep what's truly valuable off the open floor.

>The same people who help you in the shop have other work after sundown. Each crew member has their own skills, passive traits, and loyalty, a different reason for being here.
>At night, you choose jobs from the board and send the right people for the job. Robberies, intelligence work, fencing operations, protection contracts, and rescues can bring back money, goods, information.
>A successful run pays. A failed one costs injuries, lost days, rising suspicion, and opportunities that won't come around again.
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>>740768227
>Buy from customers, appraise, negotiate hard, and find costs and what someone will pay for it.
>Jewelry, weapons, artworks, religious pieces, palace relics - every item carries its own rarity, condition, risk profile, and potential payout.
>Amateurs, experts, fortune-hunters, and informants don't bargain the same way. Knowing who you're sitting across from is half the deal.
>Recruit members with distinct abilities, develop their skills, assign them to the work that suits them, and keep them loyal. Lose their trust and you'll find out what they were really capable of.
>Robberies, intelligence jobs, fencing, protection, rescues, and the occasional good turn. Each carries its own rewards and consequences.
>Revenge. Forgiveness. Power. Escape. Your decisions shape who your character becomes and where the story ends.

well was /v/ going to buy this game? this is pure reddit. and frankly pure ai generation.
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>>740768227
>>740768251
so basicallly this is recettear, but unfun?
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>>740768295
Yeah and ugly
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>>740767604
4chan as a whole is one of the least echo chambery places on the internet.
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>>740767850
30 gorillion actually
>>740767659
each one has a more distinctive personal style than the previous, which isn't saying much. i already hate the black one wearing anachronistic pants. if this is a game that involves the mafia it's one of the few scenarios where having every female character be tits mcgee is lore appropriate and difficult for even the most ardent redditor to argue against. there was really no reason to do this other than cheap game promotion. the art style is most distinctive in the first set of designs even if it looks poorly rendered in the face. the redhead in the yellow dress was well done from a character design standpoint.
>>740767671
this literally already happens lmfao. the only scenario i can think of where you couldn't unfuck this is if you tried to do the equivalent by changing a character's race. you can't really re-white them without a shitstorm. modders have tried!
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>>740768295
even in the feminized genre it's trying to go for it's already mogged by strange antiquities without that revenge angle it barely explores in the bio
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>>740768437
>>this literally already happens lmfao
I'm sure it has happened, but not that often yet. Keep in mind that big companies have only recently decided going full gay every June isn't worth it anymore.
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It's important that when this game gets 69 peak players that those players are SEEN and HEARD
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>>740768576
honestly i'm not sure why the existence of desexualized female characters in games pisses off some people just as much as sexualized ones piss off the others. the modesty variants are just going to get modded to be in latex or bikinis within five minutes anyway. poor facial animation and 3d scans of real faces are more visually offensive than the "tits or no tits" game because they botch attractive people so badly you have to wonder if it's intentional. pretty sure that's mostly shitting rigging, poor physics engines, and bad lighting though.
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>why do weirdo neofeminists say men are trash and rapists i don’t understand
>also i want to rape women rape rape rape behead women then rape them
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>>740765882
>I can't appreciate beauty just existing, it needs to be fully porn or nothing at all!
Gay autistic nigga go outside.
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>>740768763
i don't mind characters looking one way or another. i'm as much of a fan of big titty anime bitches as i am a fan of fully armored strong soldier women or whatever
what i do mind is characters being censored, changed or otherwise altered because someone cried about it like a fucking retard
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>>740768662
the only 67+2 players that will bother to buy this shit are the exact ones who clamor about how they need to be SEEN and HEARD. no one else would give this a second thought. they've already alienated their apparent core audience in reddit, so any prospective player base has likely already dwindled down to the single digits. if this was even going to get made at all. it reminds me of the fucking arkh project in having such limited renders, generic info, and repeatedly ragebaiting people by changing character designs just to get attention (and pity monetary support/"reparations"). if that riley bitch hasn't killed herself by now i would half suspect it's her 27th game scam.
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>>740765780
?? So are they trolling?
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>>740768763
It's because most people know nothing about art but just know the "sexualized" designs appeal much more to them than the "desexualized" designs. The most important thing about a design is that it needs to have appeal, but appeal is obviously subjective and very hard to grade. The easiest way to make a design appealing is just to make the character attractive, and that's the exact opposite of what most big publishers and even indie devs are doing these days. Whether that's intentional or not, I've got my own thoughts on the subject that I'm not going to go into because that's its own can of beans, but it's a very clear pattern and so the easiest (and therefore most common) reply is "make it sexier".

I could go into what gives a design appeal but I think Roald Dahl has said it better than I could.
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>>740765460
>bullied
why are you lying you retarded turd?
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>>740765780
leddit fears the big hat
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I have never heard of this game before and I do not care about it.
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>>740768924
At the very least, I absolutely think Neill knew what he was doing. No amount of "this is what women with muscles look like you INCEL" screaming will convince me this looks like a woman in the final game. I know a woman that is into dieting and working out (three days a week at the gym), and she doesn't look like this. When I showed her that infamous sex scene between Abby and that forgettable dude, she thought it was a gay couple.
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>>740765460
the less sexy is on the right, btw
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>>740768992
>not
*now
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>>740769080
kek
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>>740765460
If they aren't romancable why make them sexy?
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>>740765460
Making the character on the right more modestly dressed might actually fit the time period more, but the character on the left is now a completely different person and looks like an upset millennial without a hint of femininity to her
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So are they woke? Or chuds in disguise?
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>>740769161
Same thing really
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>>740768775
beheading gets in the way of lizard grugbrained raping, unless you're kemperpilled.
>>740768867
they literally asked reddit how to change their design, made them sexier, then changed them to be less sexy because different redditors complained. if they hadn't directly asked for feedback on character designs i would agree with you, but they were quite literally
>asking for it

also i don't know how any of you haven't picked up that this is a woman doing this yet. they're literally responding to the end of their comments with heart emojis and kisses while insulting some "creator" they have beef with on steam as "far-right" saying they don't understand those kinds of people. they also claim to be a small team of 3 people creating this game in unity and the designs in photoshop.
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>>740768924
sexualized characters annoy me if i can tell it was design laziness like that. if it's campy like lollipop chainsaw or integrated into the game like catherine or bayonetta it's part of the fun. any feminists whining about those are completely missing the point. making a generic character with tits is annoying because it's generic, not because it has tits. male protagonists in games often have the same problem of being so generic, just like anime is notorious for it. i never got any of the whining about sexualization in games anyway, the point of a large portion of them is to kill people, who gives a fuck if you can also fuck them or at least want to?
>>740769025
>At the very least, I absolutely think Neill knew what he was doing.
feel like anyone arguing otherwise has completely redacted the fact that the original the last of us got in major shit over ellie looking too much like ellen page when she had signed a deal with quantic dream for beyond two souls already. she threatened to fucking sue them and they changed the model. seeing this happen in real time is how i even learned the last of us was an upcoming game that existed. of course he knows what he's doing when altering character models.
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>>740769508
>making a generic character with tits is annoying because it's generic, not because it has tits
Well yeah but then the issue isn't tits, but that the design is bad and they tried to salvage it with some sex appeal. Same thing happens in the west but in reverse, get an attractive woman to do a face scan and make her look worse. See Sara Ryder in Andromeda, MJ in Spider-Man, Aloy in Horizon...
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>>740769508
>"I guess I should be flattered that they ripped off my likeness. But I am actually acting in a video game called Beyond Two Souls, so it was not appreciated."

yeah i'm sure the guy who has already gotten caught altering character models before is on the up and up
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Don't care. If a dev is so unconfident in their own direction they need constant "community feedback" on fucking character designs of all things, their game is going to be boring shit. The whole point of indie games is creative freedom. If I wanted design by ethics committee I'd go play the latest AAA sloppa.
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>>740765460
2 and 3 for me
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>>740768763
>poor facial animation and 3d scans of real faces are more visually offensive than the "tits or no tits" game because they botch attractive people so badly you have to wonder if it's intentional. pretty sure that's mostly shitting rigging, poor physics engines, and bad lighting though.

forgot to mention that nobody has figured out how to make non shitty hair yet, probably because it makes textures go crazy high poly even without fluidity.

if the west is going to keep fucking this up maybe they should follow the style of deadly premonition and lift faces wholesale.
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>>740768821
There's a difference between beauty and fanservice.
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>>740767296
>games want to see a 21st niggress SJW teleported to the Victorian era
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>>740769995
Ummm yikes sweaty, what kind of incel made this? This doesn't belong in a museum, if you want to see beautiful naked women just look at porn.
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>>740766738
file should be renamed "organisation XIII"
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The current prudery and push for everything to be sexless feels so weird to me knowing that we had books like these in the 70s.
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>>740765460
"an indie studio" it's 3 people who have never made a game before and type all their comments on reddit like:
>hehhehh.:P
>mostly pinterest and art of books
>FLSDFSLDFSLHAHA no you not
>Oh, thank you so much! For your lovely comments, kisses!

>>740770009
the victorian era ended in 1901 into edwardian which is what the purple newer design somewhat looks like. the brown one could be lower class, but the redhead looks like she's from the 50s and the black one from 2022. but yes, the kind of people who type like this and find >>740768227 >>740768251 an interesting premise from first time devs using pre-rendered assets and consulting pinterest for inspiration do in fact want to play this kind of boring milquetoast bullshit. the dev keeps insisting mobile is the last thing they want it to look like despite it looking interchangable with episodes and somehow worse than that kim kardashian fashion game.

most of the redditors were arguing that the sexy designs looked period inappropriate btw. they explicitly say they don't give a fuck if it's a horny game.
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>>740770195
how many people do you think actually read gravity's rainbow? you're lucky if they read 1984.
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>>740770195
We still get dozens of kinky books each year, they're just for women now. Just look up all the dark fantasy or romantasy books that are on Amazon some time. It's not weird and pathetic if women are going crazy over porn to the point of sexually harassing others over it*, which is why most people here are probably unaware of it.

* Look up the Sinners & Stardust controversy.
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>>740765460
I have a reddit account, where's the post so I can downvote it?
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>>740770794
learn how2internet lil' zoom
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>>740767895
>totally out of line for me to expect real, flesh and blood women to wear less revealing clothes
??? But they DO wear less revealing clothes. Are you from some sharia law shithole?
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>>740767476
>how do I make this design less sexually charged?
>I know, I'll completely remove the tits!
How do these people exist. Do they get offended when they see boobs in real life?
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>>740770689
>Look up the Sinners & Stardust controversy.
>The "Sinners & Stardust" controversy stems from a 2025 dark romance fan convention in Boston, where attendees allegedly groped a male model and slipped an Apple AirTag into his pants. This sparked massive backlash regarding parasocial boundaries and the conflation of consensual fiction with real-world consent.
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>>740771732
You didn't even hear about the woman who kept flashing people with a dildo. BookTokkers having spergfits on TikTok how men need to stay out of their safe space where they can experiment with dark taboos to "reclaim their power over sexual abuse" or some such nonsense while acting like horny retarded chimps at a fucking book convention... I expected nothing less tbqh.
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>>740765460
I prefer the left due to having severe gooner bait fatigue.
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>>740772414
All those gooner bait games in recent years like Dead or A- right. Uhhh, Skullgi- wait no. ... Stellar Blade? What fatigue you talking bout, nig?
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>>740765460
>go from one extreme to the other
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Save for the green dress, the black dress is low effort and uninspired just like women in general. Left seems better, there's different silhouettes which makes the dress look good
>t. dress enjoyer
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>>740768409
Horseshit. Make a post in any one of the political outrage threads that get posted ad infinitum and claim that political discussion doesn't belong on this board and you'll get a dozen identical replies from retards who very much treat /v/ like an echo chamber.
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>>740765460
second top comment is this
they're more self aware than /v/
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>>740765460
They look hot to me
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>>740765780
I dont get it. I've even went to reddit thread and people are saying change was unnecessary.
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>>740765460
>just play indies dude
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>>740769192
>>asking for it
sure anon, i don't disagree. i was speaking generally
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>>740765460
>reddit feedback
So they don't actually want their game to make money?
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>>740773457
>waaaah why arent indies safe space save me gaben
Just ignore the bad ones?
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>>740773872
How can I ignore them when I keep seeing them on /v/??
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>>740765460
Lets' be real, this "game" was probably going to flop regardless. At least now it's kinda funny this person will resent Redditors after it happens.
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>>740765460
This is very obviously viral makreting, the two on the right look like WEG characters. A feminist redditor wouldn't even consider putting them in a game, they obviously designed left first, then drew right to share the "old" design to make people on the internet angry. And it worked.
Middle left is the cutest btw
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>>740765460
The left look like background characters. The one on the right stand out more as important characters. It's not just the boobs but also the more bright colours and accessories.
If they keep removing any sex appeal of the their characters they end up with the most inoffensive boring safe looking characters.
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>>740774298
bold strategy, let's see if it pays off
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>>740765780
I'm getting tired of these Disney-eque artstyles with muddy colours.
The ones on the left have weird faces but better lineart and colours and just overall more unique artstyle than the one of the right an in OP.
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>>740765460
>Okay we changed our game based on your feedback. Will you buy it now?
>No we were never going to buy it.
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>>740765460
Natural selection.
Indie dev communities are the worst place to get any feedback from, they're not the consuming audience. Asking for feedback from r/indieDev is genuinely as retarded as you can get, not only is it going to be feedback from Redditors, it's from Redditors that aren't going to buy your game.

Indie devs do this all the time. They do it on Twitter too using hashtags like MadeInENGINE IndieDev SoloDev ENGINE and so on, these are hashtags non consumers look at. They end up creating an audience of non consumers that they market to, they think the marketing works because non consumers wishlist the games as "support" and then it releases and it's a failure.

NEVER market to anyone but the consumers. NEVER take feedback from non consumers.
Unless you want to fail, then feel free to do that.
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>>740767604
minecraft was practically beta tested here
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>>740776472
>they think the marketing works because non consumers wishlist the games as "support" and then it releases and it's a failure.
they sound like naive children, 100% must be a woman deciding things there, going by feelz/emotions and shit.
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Should've just made the designs 14 year olds in bikinis if they want to appeal to gamers.
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>>740765590
Same tbdesu I'm tired of seeing slutty women.
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>>740767604
If that was the case only faggots like you would be left.
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>listening to criticism is…LE BAD!
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>>740778660
You type like a fag and your shit is retarded.
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>>740766051
>they're all lesbians
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>>740778660
criticism from people that were never going to play your game to begin with is meaningless yes
its like asking a vegetarian about your meat recipe
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>>740766572
>all of them fat and ugly in a way that would be in their power to change
as expected
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>>740767604
if this were an echochamber, either you or me would no longer be allowed to post here, retard
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>>740765780
sister, those are literally the same
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>>740777917
It's just morons thinking that wishlists work as "support", there's a big idea that wishlisting games will promote it to more people and since it's free, it's free support for another developer.
Except they don't count in the fact that it's giving the developer fake data telling them that their marketing strategy is working, when in reality it isn't.

Reddit has a lot of rundowns of marketing campaigns on the indie and game dev subreddits and all of them come to the same conclusion, and yet, in the same subreddit people do the same mistakes.

To a degree, it is a matter of quality in the game. If you can't do basic research into the marketing and have to relearn lessons rehashed constantly, how much effort did you really put into your game? Probably not much.
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>>740766075
>Just make what the fuck you want
Ah, but you see: capitalism
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>>740778184
who are these beautiful ladies? Would you introduce us, anon?
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>>740778956
>Taking a low effort shop seriously
ngmi
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>>740765460
>devs posting on reddit seeking out validation
All I need to know about these faggots
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>>740765460
>reddit feedback
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>>740765460
I bet they'll feel quite flabbergasted when these very people don't buy their game.
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>>740772492
Gooner bait is literally everywhere. Not just games.
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>>740765460
>imagine asking bunch of AI retard leftists on Reddit anything.
lol.
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>>740767719
The guy on the bottom needs even wider shoulders. Make them ridiculously wide. Lean in to that



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