How will they fuck it up?
Warhammer went woke like 10 years ago
>>740766857They won't trust the plan
Same way they fuck up every single game that have made in the last 20 years.
>>740766857By having no Necrons as the protagonists.
retarded DLC/Monetization.pathfinding bugsvisual bugsbizarre game balance.The usual TW stuff since shogun 2People who like the series will probably enjoy it. Ragebait grifters will have loads and loads of gold to bait engagement with. /v/ will hate it on principle. In short a video game.
>>740766857They won'tIt's really obvious right now it will be the best Total War ever made. This makes many people seethe. They try to shitpost constantly, only to get proven wrong all the time.
>>740766857The game will run on silky smooth 15 fps on a NASA super computer and the AI will be beyond retarded
>>740766857WARCORE saved the game
>>740766857Chaos as a day 1 dlc for $20 ($19 if you preorder). They will hype it up as grand reveal when literally everyone already knows it
They better have Imotekh in this game.
>>740766857No skaven, no buy.
>>740766857They already fucked it up by not having the necrons on release considering they are the most popular xeno faction
They dont need to fuck up, they under supervision from James wokeslop, so black eldar, tranny eldar, no slavery for dark eldars, female custodians etc etc. thet are already fucked.
>>740767959all eldar are still white
>>740767870they know necronfags will buy an overpriced faction DLC
>>740766857Even with all the stuff announced this week, Dark Heresy and TW40k are still my most anticipated games coming
>>740766857>How will they fuck it up?By doing what they do best. CA's stupidity isn't quite as widely known as some other devs', but they can be truly, catastrophically retarded at times and haven't had a particularly good track record for more than a decade at this point.
Which are the starting factions? I want Astra Militarum first playthrough.
Reminder to sign up for the beta: https://www.totalwar.com/games/warhammer-40k/beta>>740768168pic rel
>>740766857it will be severely dumbed down for consoles, so it will be an overall very shallow and mentally retarded experience
>>740768240mehyou're implying there's any depth or complexity for modern 40k titles anyway
>>740768273i mean tw titles
>>740768273I'm talking about total war series. Console TW games basically play themselves. I expect this one will be the same.
>>740767870>>740767870>>740767870>>740767979Are Necrons the most popular Xenos?What are the rankings? I’m assuming1. space marines2. Custodies3.4.Dead last: votann But what about the rest? Does GW release faction stats?
>>740766857>How will they fuck it up?You tell me dudeplease let it be a placeholder
>>740768229>let’s change all the faction names so that they’re not generic and we can copyright them>Eldar are now Aeldari, imperial guard te now astra militarum>what about adeptes astartes? The whole reason we tried to sue that one guy and started changing all names>keep them as space marinesMake it make sense
>>740768934I don't get it? Is this some race thing because that model is White.
>>740766857It's CA and its modern GW, it's going to be shit and modern Warhammer fans will eat it up with a smile
The very concept is fucked from the start
>>740767804Orks are the skaven equivalent in 40k
>>740768968Adeptus Astartes is too complicated of a word for the modern fanbase
>>740769398Orkz are orcs, you git
>>740769243you don't think there is more impertinent information to show in a Total War game other than>okay against light>yucky against medium and heavy
>>740769486Yes but they inherited the Skaven's 'ramshackle yet surprisingly lethal technology' thing. Fantasy greenskins didn't really have that.
>>740769524>presses expand>anons mind gets blown
>>740769398The Imperial Guard are the skaven equivalent in 40k.
>>740768759https://40kstats.tabletopbattles.com/#GbFYou can sort it by factions with most games. This is from app a lot of people use, not only for tournaments. Popularity will vary depending on date range you select but ultimately>Marines are always at the top>then you have Necrons, Tyranids, Death Guard following themOrks were always decently popular and now will skyrocket as well. This is because Starter Set nonMarine army always gets massively boosted thanks to Marines. Marines being the posteryboy everyone has is explicitly a massive advantage 40k has, since it helps to sell other factionsFor TW40K obviously most important is to get Necrons and Tyranids. Game will desperately need more "evil" and "horde" races ASAP. Once Necrons and Nids are in, it's whatever
>>740769524Is it not accurate information? Imperial guard units are shit against medium infantry which would be things like Space Marines and shit against heavy armour like a Knight. I would find it weird that they would be amazing against those units.
They wont be able to decide between groundwarfare or space so will half ass bothNo clue how to powerscale units
>>740769634>Is it not accurate information?Wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't, CA seems to absolutely loathe the idea of players having quick access to accurate information.
>10 years from now CA will need some obscure random shit that nobody likes as DLCWho will they be?
>>740769625this is since 10th edition release to today
>buggy>content held back so they shit out a decade of DLC>boring by turn 30>no naval combat>no playable Chaos at launch>two, count 'em, two human races at launch>shallow campaign mechanics where things happen without you needing to think or planThere's no universe where this game is more than a 7/10.
>>74076967310 years from now they'll still be releasing core factions as DLC.
>>740769673pic relatedHowever by then Slanni will probably be uplifted into being full faction by GW
>>740767804Good. No one wants your kind around.
>>740769772>nurgle warriors are 3rdwhy? damn, i would not expect that
>>740769625Wtf I had no idea Eldar we’re so low on this list. Is it possible it’s because of a meta thing? When I played some 8 years ago everyone had a secondary Eldar army
>>740766857>I want this game to fail for no reasonIt won't fail, at least not in the gameplay department.It'll fail if the game is absolutely broken and unable to run in launch and for the coming weeks with no patches.
>>740769673but everybody liked tigermen
>>740769772>>740769625>>740769838>Tau that high>eldar that lowOkay I know that Eldar were in the Armageddon trailer for a single second but I don’t remember anyone caring about TauWhy are they so high
>>740769634Yeah I'm sure it's accurate you 40k tourist but it's missing 80% of the key details like the actual numerical strength of a unit, what buffs/debuffs it has on, whether my cavalry is fast enough to chase it down, how close it is to breaking, what abilities it has, any resistances, etc. etc.>>740769606TWW unit cards take up the same amount of space as this with all of the information above (all without having to click on a tiny, separate UI element) so I can't figure how this is anything but a downgrade to anyone who actually plays these games
>>740769936>80% of the key details like the actual numerical>Clicks expandDamn that was hard, mouth breather.
>>740769838>>740769919Eldar have some of the most embarrassingly shit lore in the franchise and nobody likes Eldar players.
>>740768759>2. Custodiesnah, they're middle of the pack. people like them because they have cool models and, ironically, are one of the cheapest factions to collect. don't let the twitter drama influence you on their table footprint>Dead last: votann lol noyou got shit nobody wants like imperial agentsand then the two knight factionsand shit gw doesn't care about like grey knights and deathwatch also dark half-of-their-models-are-pre-eighth-and-the-rest-you-can't-buy eldari'm pretty sure votann are more popular than the mechanicus and sisters but that wouldn't surprise me in the least
>>740769825They only became a proper army a few editions back, got a big model range, their primarch and everything.
>>740769936>This much autism because he doesn't want to click on a UI element Jesus dude. Get a grip.
>>740769936>Yeah I'm sure it's accurate you 40k tourist but it's missing 80% of the key details like the actual numerical strength of a unit, what buffs/debuffs it has on, whether my cavalry is fast enough to chase it down, how close it is to breaking, what abilities it has, any resistances, etc. etc.Anon, the game isn't releasing for another year and a half. I'm not getting upset because that UI isn't the final product. It hasn't even released a Beta yet, closed or Open. I'll get mad when it releases and it's in the final product. You like being mad at things don't you, it makes you feel alive?
>>740770109nigga I already said I hope it's a placeholderbut it would be a first for CA to make art for placeholder UI, so
>>740770040Grey knights and Deldar are supposedly getting a big refresh this edition, so who knows.
>>740770183Alright so what are you getting upset about?
>>740769825Because they were in a starter set for 8th editionThis is how it works:Marines are the lowest common denominator. Everyone has them. Newfag starts with Marines. Eldarfag, necronfag, orkfag have some marines. Marinefags have marines.As such starter set is always appealing for everyone because it has Marines. This leaves only two options ultimately:>Person buys starter set for Marines. He is now stuck with nonMarine part he didn't need, but he did pay for everything, essentially twice as much as Marine half would cost. He may as well paint those Death Guard/Necrons/Nids/Orks. He might enjoy it to the point he will want more. And he now has a base to expand this army from>Guy buys starter set for Marines. He either sells unwanted half or already has someone to split it with. Either way it's not GW problem anymore, they offloaded job of selling Xeno/Chaos half onto a buyer. 2nd hand market is flooded with cheap half of a starter set, making it possible for people to get into that another factionThis is why GW wants so hard for there to be a posterboy faction. You can make people start more armies that way>>740769936>>740769524This is so ironic, because actual old good, new bad TWfags are annoyed on how much information there is now, with unit health displayed in particular, instead of reaffirming their belief that old TW games worked on some "magic" physics and not stats.>>740770007Eldar have the coolest lore and aesthetics in setting though
>>740770223see >>740769936 and >>740770183
>>740770183The very first trailer already had a placeholder UI, that already got changed.
>>740770247Yeah you already said that so what? You're getting upset at what?
I for one am pretty excited to play as the Eldar in this. I hope that the game does aircraft well, I want to have my crimson hunters just zoom over the battlefield and snipe mon'keigh tanks with bright lances
>>740770271I have said it, have you tried reading it?>>740770236>TWfags are annoyed on how much information there is now, with unit health displayed in particular?
I'll be real, I was pretty worried about the gameplay in this, but the last trailer gave me hope.>Great explosion VFX with gore flying around>Units with mixed and custom weapon layouts>Cover system actually seems to work nicely>Campaigns and planets look amazing>Actual beta to iron things out before release.They seem to care about this one, beta will tell us the real state of affairs though.
>>740770275Also when the dark eldar get added aircraft is basically a must have because the deldar don't really have tanks and the role of heavy hitting units for them is taken by void raven bombers.
>>740770406Actual schizoid.
Did eldest even get be all their 2 decade + models updated yet?
>>740770406>I have said it, have you tried reading it?>I'm so mad at this UI image place holder that I admit is a place holder and will likely change and not be in the final product, but I'm so fucking mad! I'm steaming!
>>740770406>?You are Warhammernewfag in franchise, Rome2 at bestIt's one of the most common complaint of histfags
>>740766857How many factions on launch? Is it gonna be the usual 2-4 and maybe we'll get some overpriced dlc for another 2-4 if we're lucky?Other Space marine chapters are just recolors of the Ultrasmurfs?
>>740766857>needs to be playable on controller with no mouseit's already fucked up
>>740770598nothingburgerit's Total War, you can pause at any moment. TW titles are playable with controller without any issue
>>740770479Basically everything in the Eldar range has been updated barring Karandras, Dire Avengers, Wraithlords, heavy support weapon platform and the falcon/wave serpent/fire prism hull (though fire prisms got a new turret section a while back).
>>740770598total warnotoriously apm heavy franchise
>>740770598It's got pause inbuilt. Yeah I agree it'd be better if it wasn't on console but there are Total War games on mobile, maybe they're using some of that team to work on the Console conversion? As long as the PC version is still a full TW experience. Look, I think we all know this game will have problems but for it's concept there's nothing else out there even Dawn of War will only be on a single planet with smaller scale units.I'll give it a chance.
>>740767804Cyber rats?>>740768229What are the aeldari.. I hope they don't make it woke.. I assume the space Marines will have the new sleek design with hover tanks?I miss tracked tanks and bulky armours.
>>740770406UM BUT WE DIDENT HAVE DAT IN THE TABLEDOP GAMETHEY IS JUST MAKING IT ACCUARTT TO THE TABLEDOP TOUDIST
>>740770598>Opens command wheel.>Issue order for unitThat was hard... Their biggest hurdle will be porting to the series S, but that will translate (hopefully) to a better optimized game in the end.
>>740766857What about Dawn of War... but units are 160 strong instead of ~8
>>740770765They already showed Land Raiders in first trailerWhy are you so dumb
>>740770556I've been playing since my dad showed me Medieval 1. What exactly are you even getting at here? That because the UI used to be bad that it's okay for it to always be bad?Obviously TWW's UI is better than history TWs, why would I not want that trend of improvement to continue?>>740770538>I'm so mad at this UI image place holder that I admit is a place holder that willok but now read the second half of that post instead of blowing up with seethe>>740770780Honestly I have the sneaking suspicion that they're going to get rid of ammo capacity to make it closer to the tabletop I wouldn't mind either way
>>740766857By releasing a shitty half baked game then blame the players for not buying the game and stop all updates.
>>740769673Nah, they have way more established shit to draw on for 40k than fantasy doesThere's over two dozen 40k armies at this point
How long will it last until the hit the "ALL DLC WILL NOW BE PRIMARCHS AND BIG NAMES" button?
>>740770765GW couldn't trademark generic names like Eldar and Imperial Guard so they changed a bunch and Eldar is now Aeldari. I think the funniest one is them changing Tau to T'au.
>>740770898>That because the UI used to be bad that it's okay for it to always be bad?YesTWs should run on magic. You have to be lying, otherwise you would know of stance Volund, TWCenter grogs, /vst/fags, pixelated apollo and others have on TW
>>740770761>As long as the PC version is still a full TW experience.Anon, they can't even be bothered to have different unit balancing between single and multiplayer, what makes you think these incompetent chucklefucks are going to make two different versions of the same game?
>>740771020>Ferrus Manus dlc>it's just his head annoying daemon prince Fulgrim.
>>740770765>What are the aeldariI really wish tertiaries would stop pretending to be 40k fans.
>>740771143So it'll only be the PC game with a controller scheme for console.
>>740770765>What are the aeldari you should be shot
>How will they fuck it up?It's 40kslop
>>740771075Yuh huh, and could you show us 'old good new bad' hist-only Volund fans in the thread with us right now?
>>740770761LOL>xhe thinks tw 40ktroon is developed for PC first
>>740768968They did try to replace "space marines" with "adeptus astartes" but muhreens is like 95% of 40k's brand recognition, they're scared shitless of pissing the marinebabs off too much. That's why female marines will never happen.Other factions aren't granted this level of protection, hence aeldari, female custodes etc.
>>740771301what are you even babbling about anon?It's oldfags and veterans of TW who don't want to have perfect information in unit cards, completely unlike what you indicated in >>740769936It IS a tourist stance to want to have every stat perfectly described in unit card. It's a nuTW feature. You exposed yourself anon
>>740771168I won't forgive them for killing tts
>>740766857Its already fucked by being a Total War game.
>>740771295The greatest setting ever createdIt's here to save gaming>>740771470Of course it is. Consolefags are 2nd rate citizens
>>740766857Nu-TW
>>740771585PC LOST
>>740771775PC always win
>>740771708Fall of the Samurai really was the peak of this franchise
>>740771708Warhammer is the best game in series, until 40k releasesBest gunpowder units too
>>740771585>It's here to save gaminglol, lmao evenYou're either new to 40k vidya or retarded.
>>74077190440k is a giant of gamingBest strategy/tactics games? It's all 40kBest action games? It's between Space Marine 2 or DarktideBest cRPG ever made? Rogue Trader, soon to be eclipsed by Dark Heresy
>>740771708If you had to put your handgunners in a stretched out line they'd be complete and total dogshit and nobody would use them
>>740771585>>740771889Volound go back to samefagging on reddit
The only reason I'm slightly optimistic about this is due to them abandoning warscape.There are many ways it can be fucked up, whether it be unfun siege mechanics, pathfinding being stupid, collision being broken.
>>740771143>>740771470k
>>740771961based and true
>>740772025>abandoning warscapenew engine looks the same. it looks a reskin of WH
>>740771708
>Armageddon confirmed>no steel legionWhy?
>>740766857look at total warhammer 3. in short: probably in every way possible. can't wait to find out how they'll fuck up even the most basic forms of interactions such as movement on both strategic and tactics layers
>>740768418>Console TW games basically play themselvesName one
>>740771961New AND retarded it seems.SM2 brought in so many culture wars posers who pretended to like it to own the libs or something but nobody actually likes the game except me and like 1000 other autists.
>>740769625it really is bizarre how neglected thousand sons are as a faction considering their playrate and sales
>>740766857The notoriously bad AI which as of now is STILL present in TWW3. And with 40k they're working with a new engine so you can pretty much count on there being bad AI to start with.
From what I've gathered, this is basically the Civilization Revolution of Total War games. It's designed for controllers.
>>740772174Is it confirmed there's no Steel Legion?
>>740770925Pretty much this. They're counting on there being enough 40k groids who have no clue about CA's pedigree buying in to make a decent bottom line. Sadly TW's myriad problems are not widely known so it will probably work too.
>>740771032StarCraft was a mistake.
>>740772268SM2 has constant 10k players with jumps to ~25k every update on steam aloneAnd it's a game without replay valueTW40K will easily dethrone Hoi4 as most played strategy game
>>740772381steel legion don't exist anymore. the lore for the new armageddon books is pretty explicit about this. they're all either dead or have turned to khorne.
>>740772353It isMedi3 will probably end up being a better overall game due to it being the second game on the new engine and they(ideally) should apply all their faults from 40k to it
>>740766857They won’t, but bitter game haters will say it’s bad.
>>740772430>it's a game without replay valueit's a game without replay value and with poor multiplayerreally all you need to do to print money with 40k is nail the presentation / voice acting and make the actual game a 6/10 clone of something popularim not just saying this to be cynical either that shit works on me every time
>>740772174If you aren't a reddit loving Cadian/Krieg *holds up le spade*, then you get jack shit and are slowly phased out.
>>740766857Overpriced DLC for little actual content. So, similar to actual Games Workshop.
>>740772516>>740772430I disagree.
>>740766857tau expansion where they are actually a threat and not gimped by not being the main character.
Why are we raping the Tau as the Deathwatch... I thought they were the good guys..
How they can fuck something that on paper is impossible to fuck? Well its CA company that cant make functional sieges in like forever, and here we will have bunkers, ditches, buildings, sieges of gigantic hive cities, heh
>>740766857>The mere existence of this game has not only caused so much butthurt but also made people straight up lie about information that was posted months agoYep, this is gonna be a good one
>>740772456Just watched a video about it and how GW are saying because Steel Legion are now just a fraction of the size they used to be due to attrition which sounds like an absolute bullshit reason to me. Weird decision, very strange to leave them out considering how popular Steel Legion are among Imperial Guard players.
>>740772807>how popular Steel Legion are among Imperial Guard players.steel legion are popular among old(er) IG fans, not so much people who currently play the game and buy models
>>740772745yeah, but (you) aren't
>>740772807>>740772914a good proxy to measure how popular [thing GW no longer makes] is, is to see how easy it is to find proper STLs / prints of said thing. ASL has maybe 1 or 2 proxies that don't actually look all that much like the classic model / books. finding an identical helmet and gas mask are virtually impossible.
>>740772745Tau are not the 'good guys' they are naive that's all. They're still evil.
Creative Assembly cannot make a traditional RTS. The genre needs to have a certain snappiness to it. The units cant feel like they are trudging through water and then sliding to a stop when you move them. This is the most basic shit going back to Warcraft 1 and CA cant handle it, nevermind the combat and game balance.
>>740772807creating and producing models and then keeping up with physical demand is harder than making dlc for video game which are just copies of informationIt makes sense on GW part. Cadia, Catachan and Krieg are radically, visually different from each other. Makes sense to create them. Getting rid off unique Catachans just to make a slightly different version of chud gasmask troopers would be wasteful.They can make them later
>>740773121>The units cant feel like they are trudging through water and then sliding to a stop when you move them. This is the most basic shit going back to Warcraft 1 and CA cant handle it,This is intentional to make it realistic though. It simulates order delay
>>740773138No I understand the point you're making but GW did just open a new factory, they keep expanding. But back to the game itself I do think the lack of Steel Legion in base game will give them an excuse to DLC it. They are going to DLC this game so fucking hard it's unreal.
>>740773121Oh, its not CA. Its some dev who made "The Book of Unwritten Tales", whatever that is. Good, fuck Creative Assembly
>>740772997Yep. There are some fantastic Dark Eldar proxies from Heroes Infinite. They call them Void Elves
>>740772745There are no good guys
>>740772025>abandoning warscape.I don't believe you
>>740771561TTS killed itself, they had a spergout over GW updating their policy.
>>740773138Your think they would use free cosmetic packs as a way of drumming up and gauging interest in their lesser known (sub)factions
>>740773243What the fuck are you talking about
>>740773296They have explicitly said multiple times and made a whole reveal specifically talking about the new engine. There's nothing to "believe" about it.How good it will end up being is another question but it's definitely a more "fresh" baseline.
>>740773368I said them, be that alfabusa or GW. Buy i blame GW in part regardless because of their historic hostility to their own fans
>>740773258Dark Eldar need their entire gay interdimensional webway gay sex fest city Exterminiatusing.
>>740773473Oh there's time aplenty for them to nickel and dime the player base with the army painter.
>>740773528I think they're lying like how Bethesda lies about adopting new engines
>>740772430>And it's a game without replay valueYeah for people who play only the mid as fuck campaign in an effort to fit in.Achievements % show how 90% of the people barely played the game with 80% not even touching coop/pvp.Shitters who can barely play on the 3rd lowest diff, didn't even finnish the campaign and haven't played for over a year still act like the game was great for some reason.
The lasguns are woke and dont shoot red beams so i shant be buying.
>>740773727CORRECT
>>740773727>most downloaded mod>red beamskino
Hi
>>740769936Anon...If units now hold different weapons then a generalized stat with details when hovering on weapons is a better practice
>>740768418>>740772241Kek
>>740773368GW has been cracking down on fanworks at the time. It was only a matter of time before they asked them to stop explicitly if it hasn't happened yet.Dunno if there was any other drama in the background though. I remember the guy who made the music, though he was only loosely related to the main group, decided to flagellate himself over having maybe slightly inappropriate online friendship with a teen girl like a million years ago.
>>740773883And second most goes to changing faction names back to the non-shitty ones
>>740774170>GW has been cracking down on fanworks at the time.It was a complete nothingburger farmed by grifters. Alfabusa used it as an excuse to stop working on TTS, blamed GW so his patreons don't eat him alive
>>740766857>barebone roster with clear gaps made for dlcs like space marines but actually tough>horrible pathfinding>LOS not being fixed>nogs guardsmen>lack of soul (TTW3 had 0 quotable)
>>740769936you getting cooked
>>740774582QuestionI have TTW1 and 3 but not 2Do I need to play 2 to play 3?
>>740771561it was going full fanfic territory and spawned enough annoying meme, also the custodes being a turbofag was annoying. It quite being good when it stopped poking fun at the setting>>740774716To play as in to own? I presume the base 2 factions are included in immortal empire (the big map for all factions). So I'd say no?
>>740774716You can play Immortal Empires without owning game 1 and 2. You just need them to get access to the factions, or just use creamapi to unlock everything.
>>740770765>what are the aeldariProper imperial citizen right there
>>740774884cream doesn't work for me now, I had to use someone elses files
>>740774924yeah, usually have to update it every patch, i think its the blood dlc files that fuck with it and/or the ini
>>740775197I bought the blood dlc, it crashes the game since a few updates. Isn't creaminstaller dead anyway? can't find it online
>>740775392creaminstaller doesn't work for all games, i usually just get the files from cs.rin mostly works>is it deadi don thtink so https://github.com/FroggMaster/CreamInstaller
>>740774446The excuse seemed plausible at least, some things did get smacked and with GW writing primarchs returning they'd probably not want to have a competing version around. I'm 100% willing to believe they got tired of it and they'd rather do sponsored shit so they took it though.
>>740766857Primaris and female Space Marines. IYKYK
EAT CHAOS
>>740775792more fun on replay than chorfs
>>740766857It's CA and it's on console.
>>740774446The real reason TTS died is because they were exploring eldar lore and GW couldn't let that slide
>>740776045is it true one author hogs all the lore for himself to write? Also pretty sure they got punished for not drawing enough dimes
>>740774446>Immediately switched over to doing a World of Darkness series He was pretty clearly bored of doing a 40k series far beyond when the "what if the Emperor could speak" joke was funny yeah.
>>740769936God damn the 40kiddies did NOT like this. And it's just a unit card from the preview, imagine the defender meltdowns as we get to see more things in the future.
>>740775465Realistically it's probably because tts grew so much alfabusa had a whole crew on board and multiple people likely depended on the income it generated, with GW's ambiguous stand on fan content and copyright they wanted a guarantee from GW they wouldn't just them down without any kind of warning, which was and remains their legal right. GW didn't want to give them that and alfabusa didn't want to take the risk
All total war warhammer games are abysmal shit because the ai is horrifically bad, it poses no challenge whatsoever and runs around like a headless chicken.If they put some actual effort into semi challenge somewhat cognizant ai the games would be playable but as of now they getting boring once you realize the armies just blob and do nothing and make suboptimal choices, while the battle ai entire army can be distracted by one measly Calvary unit.
>>740776284This sort of what happens with those operations. Even if they aren't in the grey area they just become too big and have too many people to pay.
>PvP has two unique emotes not available in PvE, this being a nod of agreement and a more subtle cheerWhy? Why not just make two more emote slots?
>>740774924>>740775197Yeah, the Blood DLC is the only one to contain actual files and will break with every update. It's the only DLC you should buy, and then remove the files from creamapi.
>>740776808Oh shit wrong 40K thread
>>740775465>some things did get smackedThey really didn't. Everything about this drama got so distorted it's insane.What happened is that GW decided they want to start making official animations. And they did it the same way they get all their other workers. By hiring fans. So they wrote to those animators to hire them.At this same time they wrote that nothingburger rule to cover their asses just in case for IP protection. I don't know of any situation where they acted on it, but writing it was enough for a drama to start.The only videos which were "taken down" were Astartes and Sodaz videos... but none of them as a result of this ruleAstartes guy was hired and his animation became official. Since he used sounds that were prohibited to use in a commercial product, they had to change them so they don't break the fucking law. After that video was reuploaded for free anyway. And funnily enough, original version uploaded by someone else was never taken downSodaZ was never fucked over by GW, but this is how community painted it. GW never told him to take down his videos. They offered him job and he was eager to take this dream job. By then drama was already raging. He said he wants to take the job and community, in particular Alfabusa fans, dogpilled on him that he is a sellout and doesn't stand with other animators which were fucked over. Of course there were no such animators.He decided that Warhammerfags are a cancer and threw a fit on his own. Deleted all Warhammer videos and abandoned this IP and fandom. And went to animate Fallout.All other videos, including from creators which were hired, are still availableNew videos are still being made all the time, with people constantly commenting that GW will soon take them down... which doesn't happen, so all those comments age really badly quickBut drama was enough for Alfabusa to excuse not working on TTS anymore
>>740776809wait so creaminstaller crashing my game each time I use it would be because of the bloodfiles... I'll take a look next time thanks for the idea
total war was always really boring, much preferred DoW. But this game is going to kill any chance dow4 even has, assuming dow4 could even be good.
>>740776932I just wish a proper COH2 style Dawn of war with the veterancy system
>>740770236>coolest loremention any lore that doesn't involve eldanesh, slaanesh, khaine and eldrad>but muh war in heaventhey were living plot devices>but muh prince yriel hurting the hivemindthat was pretty cool, I'll give you that
>>740772456>>740772530New steel legion models are coming out btw
>>740771561it was bad from season 3 onwards
Post you're face when creamapi doesn't work on 40k
>>740772530>cain as legendary lord>no valhallan unitscan't wait to get pissed off
>>740777769I'd be devastated but I don't really picture them working hard for this
>>740771032The Aeldari part is utter retardation.If they wanted a trademarkable alternative name for Eldar, then they should've taken Eladrith from Codex Dark Eldar (5th ED).
>>740768934Black people are a thing in 40K.There is a whole African-themed Imperial Fists successor chapter.There are black Space Marines.Not to mention people like Inquisitor Thot and Jonah Orion. Both appeared in the first two DoW games.
>>740777532It sounds like you mean stories and not loreEverything about Eldar lore is cool and metal. Their pantheon of dead gods, nomadic living on craftworlds, having to suppress emotions and hunt for spirit stones, travelling through webway, Wraith constructs being Ents in space, while at this same time being also a take on necromancy, their different Aspect Warrior shrines, relation with their dark kin, harlequins, combat style, their tragedies, getting lost on their paths, the way they shape reality by singing and more, all of this is fantastic. It mogs entire setting>they were living plot deviceswhat a dumb nonargument. It's not even a plot device, it's lore.
>>740776878>gook artist gets bullied once>nukes everything he ever donewhy is this so fucking common? with military service being mandatory in worst korea, you'd think they get thicker skin for stuff
>>740777769Isn't Denuvo getting cracked nowadays?If they get rid of creamapi, I'll just pirate the whole game, and they get no money.
>>740778028>Black people are a thing in 40K.While that is unfortunate that's not really what we're talking about
>>740777623I still wanted to see where an the eldar stuff was headed. I imagine they would've written everything surrounded cegorach and ynnead better than GW desu
>>740778116>the way they shape reality by singing and moredidn't wraithbone get retconned into being some rock that they mine?
>>740778028The trooper in that picture is not black you obsessed fucking weirdo.
>>740766857>nig in the coverIt's woke slopa
>>740778873No, it's another grifter drama. It's how it was always described. They grow and shape wraithbone and other "psychoplastics"
>>740777906that's worse and sounds less familiar
>>740766857no trench mechanics makes it doa for me
>>740778116The Eldar range are easily Jess Goodwin's best works in all of 40k. I adore them, both their aesthetics and lore. They have had most overall influence on my aesthetic tastes from 40k.
>>740777532Eldar are cool but grossly neglected by GW in the sense that they only ever serve as some kind of accessory or plot device. There's glimpses of greatness and done really good visual design and theming but GW hates them too much to every flesh them out.I like how they moved away from some of the more overt eastern themes like the death haikus
>>740779627why did I think they literally sang webway juice into shape? was it a black library thing? either way, 2nd ed description is way too vague and 10th ed completely removes the mysticism around it
>>740780191GW is unfortunately ran by tasteless fucking retards that have zero appreciation for the gem they have in the Eldar. They are easily one of the most interesting, unique and aesthetically beautiful takes on elves in fiction and gw is flat out refusing to do anything with them. You could make a fantastic eldar focused game for example just for the premise of "play as a Corsair prince". Gw would simply need to lend the license for such a project.
>>740767870They probably wanted to be different from DoW4 since they already have space marines and orks
>>740766857>How will they fuck it up?Strategy game developed for consoles. Need I say more?
>>740780451what are some other flavor of space elves? I can only think of tenchi muyo
>>740780451People have mentioned the potential for a craaaazy character action game based on like autarchs or wherever. I think one of the reasons they'll never do it because people will shit and piss themselves if you as much as suggest that a single unit could be on par with a space marine
>>740780307>was it a black library thingmaybeThe thing is, they need to smith something anyway. Eldar have smiths and artisans too, other than bonesingers. Yme-loc in particular wouldn't make sense otherwise.this is from 4th
>>740780976Star Trek has elves
>>740781092fucking vulcans, how could I forgetpon-farr with t'pol, by the way
>>740781229To be fair Vulcans barely count as elves
>>740780989I doubt even the worst of marine piggies would be retarded enough to be upset about an Autarch beating marines in combat
>>740781365Little bit like Craft-world Eldar, especially how both are supposed to try and live with minimal to no emotions or at least suppress them heavily.
>>740781826Yeah, but the Eldar have a whole lot more going on than just the path autism
>>740768229whats the difference between space muhreens and astra militarium?one is generic hummies in heavy armor and one is generic hummies in light armordid they really need to be a separate faction? are we getting pic related as separate factions too?
>>740782140>space marines>generic humansYou should know at least one thing about the lore before you comment on it
>>740781985>Little bit likeYeah I did say it's not the same one to one.
>>740782140>Astra Militarum>Adeptus Astartes>Adeptus Mechanicus>Adepta Sororitas >Adeptus CustodesEach of these will be their own separate faction.
>>740782285are they not generic humans that trained more (and are more dedicated) and wear heavier armor? they arent like the the primarchs aka created to be superhuman demigods
>>740782140One playthrough of Rogue Trader will inadvertently teach you at least half of those
>>740782525why are you in this thread if you literally don't even know the first thing about 40k
>>740782525Space Marines are genetically modified by gene-seed from the primarchs
Chaos and dark elves will be insanely strong (as usual) and Empire will just suck dick
>>740773727Lasguns shot yellow bolts in artwork from the late 90s onwards. They only really had red beams in videogames.
>>740782140>whats the difference between space muhreens and astra militarium?Wehrmacht vs SS>are we getting pic related as separate factions too?Most, yeahOthers are random units you can use as "mercs"And then you will get subfactions for them. Space Marines at the very least, for certain, 100% will get Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Black Templars as dlcs, as those are The Big 4 of Marine subfactions with their own units.
>Imperial Guard only has tanks and Sentinels>no Basilisk>no Chimera>no Hellhound>none of those new wacky WW2 armoured cars
Chaos >Undivided DLC>IRON WARRIORS DLC>World Eaters DLC>Emperor's Children DLC>Death Guard DLC>Thousand Sons DLC>Undivided Chaos Daemons DLC>Khrone daemons DLC>Tzeentch daemons DLC>Slaanesh daemons DLC>Nurgle daemons DLC>traitor guards DLC>Red Corsairs DLC
>>740783017>IG refresh for the third year anniversary dlc in 2030kino incoming..
I think Im just upset that the entire WH40k universe has been flipfloppy at the idea of pre emptive bombardments
>>740783071They're also lacking Heavy weapons teams, a core feature of all IG armies.
Any lorefags here?What do the different types of crosses mean? Or do they all mean you can go terminator?
>>740783168Depends on the situation, forces involved, target planet or writer.also it's cheaper to throw hundred thousands of guardsmen than to waste macro cannon shells.
>>740783295crux ter...something, suppose to be a badge of honor for good boy marines since it's suppose to have a part of the emperor's armor (maybe)
>>740782140the fact that sister of silence weren't rebranded as adepta silentia yet is a miracle
>>740782525Anon, Space Marines are genetic Super Soldiers. They're 8ft+ tall, they've got two hearts, multiple more organs than an ordinary baseline human, they're stronger, faster, smarter, and if it wasn't for war then they could potentially live forever/ are immortal. I mean this is very, very basic stuff. Are you really not aware of what these are and are trolling for responses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSdlRRYS9-shttps://youtu.be/M6M9-oFEKpk?si=CtnlgL2KVcHCeIRl
>>740783295they mean you are a cool guy
>>740783295The little ones are all flair, the Crux Terminatus was a veterancy symbol during the Great Crusade and given to Spess Mehreens wearing Terminator armour.After the Horus Heresy, a really tiny piece of the Emperor's golden auramite armour resides in every Terminator armour of all 1st and 2nd Founding chapters.
>>740783071>STRATEGIC VALUE: ABSOLUTE
>>740782734i dont usually care about human factions but gothic armada made the navy and mechanicus seem more interesting than human factions usually are in soi fi. theyre deffinitely more interesting than the eldar that are only in the base game because no one would buy their dlc so its time to learni know space marines wear the cooler armor and fuck shit up while the militarium are the realm marines and cannon fodder holding the line until the big guns show up to save the dayis it true even the weak(er) militarium still regularly fuck the xeno factions up>>740783414dont know shit about the ground forces so i made up lore based on pics i saw so a bit of both i guess. does that make mairnes discount primarchs kind of like the primarchs are discount emprerors in power levels?
>>740783230So nothing changed with GW and CA being greedy as fuck.
>>740783295All variants of crux terminatus, means you're a veteran who technically has the right to wear terminator armour though in practice there are a lot more medals than suits to go around.
>>740783584The guard is more a defensive force of conscripts, they regularly hold their own, they aren't often sent to fuck shit up themselves they usually send the marines or sisters for that.
>>740783584>i knowNo you don't
>>740783780So the one with the ruby and the one with the arrow pointing to the bottom are also crux terminatus?
>>740783881>The guard is more a defensive force of conscriptsWrongThe Imperial Guard wins most of the Imperium's battlesThe Spess Mehreens are only like 5% of the entire ImperiumEvery planet has a Planetary Defense Force, they're not part of the Imperial Guard and they're mostly militia whose job is to hold the line until the real Imperial Guard and maybe Spess Mehreens arrive to save their planetSome PDFs are better than others and are trained to equal standards like the actual IG, like Cadia and every planet in Ultramar
>>740783584You've got the Emperor of Mankind a being who was born 8000bc.He made the 20 Primarchs from his own code base, they are his sons and share traits of the Emperor but are not as powerful as he is. From the genetic code base of each Primarch the Space Marines are made using a 'geneseed' you take normal boys (yes boys girls not allowed) and before they mature into men they are injected with a 'geneseed' which allowed them to grow new organs, stronger skin density, muscle fibres e.t.c. to be made into a Super soldier, into a Space Marine. For each Primarch they have their own Space Marine legion, each legion was on average 100k Space Marines. Some less than that, some a lot more but that was the average.The Emperor had a favourite son named Horus. Horus took half the legions and decided he wanted to kill the Emperor so half the legions fell to 'Chaos' which is the really evil faction and that's where you get CHAOS SPACE MARINES from incase you see 'evil Space Marines'.Half stayed loyal to the Emperor.The loyalists won the war but the Emperor was brutally maimed and is stationed on Earth.Horus died, a bunch of the Primarchs died, or went off to do their own thing or they became Daemon prince Primarchs and just couldn't give a fuck.Space Marine legions in the 10,000s of thousands are simply too powerful of a force so they were broken into Space Marine 'chapters' and can now only be 1,000 in number for a single chapter, no more than that (couple don't agree to that) and there are apparently 1,000 chapters of 1,000 Space Marines.Each chapter is different, each chapter has their own armour pattern, colouring, history, traditions, rituals.Now you have the current setting.
>>740783881The PDF are purely defensive line holders, the Guard can be defensive line holders or they can be send to fuck shit up in an open field or a big battle, because you don't want to waste a Marine on that kind of slogfest. It's like putting a ferrari in a demolition derby. Marines are typically for high impact strikes on specific targets, or commando shit, that sort of thing. Big battles are for the guard. Entire wars can be fought without seeing a single marine. Though there are always exceptions to everything I just said, it's a million planets, there's a lot going on.
>>740781597There's a huge difference between how different people write marines, at times fulgrim nearly loses to an avatar of khaine and at other times a regular space marine captain can strangle one to death. There would absolutely be a subset of people that would piss themselves in anger if a "normal" Xenos danced circles around their previous mehreena. No doubt GW considers that degrading their iconographic marketing, which they've been leaning into heavily over the past decade or som primaris and they standardized look is a prime example of that
>>740766857>consolethey already did
>>740782140The astra militarum are regular dudes based on WW1 human wave tacticsSpace Marines are knights in space meets Starship Trooper super soldiers (not seen in the movie).Each chapter is like it's own heraldic order with its own gimmicks
>>740784002Yeah, the one with the elongated bottom bit is marginal but I'd still guess yeah. It doesn't always have to be embossed in the armour, typically if the bearer is in lighter armour they have the crux as a medal. Helpful if you want to swap out to a different armour mark for a specific reason. It's a badge of veterancy honour and different chapters have different traditions or styles of it. Generally, if it's a fancy cross shaped thing held by a veteran marine, it's probably a crux terminatus.
>>740769398>The Imperium are the skaven equivalent in 40K FTFY
>>740766857The DLC for this game is going to be so fucking shit and gay. Its just going to be mostly various Imperium subfactions and individual Space Marine chapters with the actually interesting xenos factions sprinkled in every now and again. God the Imperium is the gayest thing about this shitty fucking IP.
>>740784710If fantasy is anything to go by they will bundle factions together so 1-2 imp + 1-2 xeno lords
By basing it on modern 40k
>>740784371Nice, thanks
>>740769919Tau are pretty popular, you just rarely see them and other xenos factions talked about in online spaces because Imperium fanboys are massive faggots that make any kind of discussion involving them absolutely cancerous
No Sisters no buy!
>>740786808Tau and it's players are both faggots. This series is Grimdark. This is the vision John Blanche had for the Tau. If they looked like that they might be cool, but they don't so they're not.
>>740787597Looks almost identical to what we got, just with more greebles that never would have made it onto a cast model especially back then.
>>740766857TWW units are still moving as if ground is a tarp covered in vaseline, have no reload animations and formationsGameplay looked like one of them mods for Empire where units can't hit shit and all of the ranks fire at the same time because it makes the most smoke with monster unitsAlso they will implement tabletop economic model where DLCs will be just a single unit or a reskin of an old one
>>740766857>How will they fuck it up?No romanceable Aeldari general.
>>740787839Does it bollocks.
>>740787856this.not looking forward to it.nearly all newer TW games are slop
>>740783017All will be separate DLCs priced as much as a tabletop models are>>740783065You are thinking too bigBasic army will be a combat patrol + big unit (beiiiiiiiiiiinblade or stompa) + a heroThe rest will be DLCs
>>740766912/thread
>>740784114Technically you can turn an adult into a space marine it's just exceedingly rare, I think it's harder for an adult to meet what's required or something
>>740766857Having played Total War before, it's going to be BORING AS FUCK with little interactions, little gameplay decision making, long loading times, stupid big specs for a shitty looking game, and everything remotely interesting will be DLC, along with blood and dismemberment (this is true and happened before)Total War games are pretendo games. They're for people who like to pretend they're playing a game. They're lousy 4x and even worse RTT battles. The sum of their shitty parts just make a cinematic piece of gb waste.I want to believe its going to be at least fun, or at least playable, but if you know CA you know it won't, and you WILL hate it at release. An apology letter will be written and "we must be better devs" and shit. Still there will be 200dls in DLC at the end of the year.
>>740788806>They're lousy 4xThat's what makes them good4x sucks
>>740788486Yeah I wouldn't recommend it Kor Phaeron and Luther were both adults who were made into Space Marines (but not really) and they both had chips on their shoulders because they weren't 'full, full' Space Marines and that annoyance turned into spite well at least for Luther which turned into hatred which turned him to betrayal and Chaos.It's like adults are fully developed not just in body, but in mind so it's far harder to indoctrinate them.
>>740788486It's just adults are already adults since implants "grows" with the person. Adults becoming space marine is just pure luck.
>>740787546>Adds sisters>All of them are mannish, obnoxious and ugly The monkey paw finger curls
>>740788806Rome 1 and medieval 2 were fun
>>740788806That's what lack of competition does to mufuggas
>>740788180uh oh blind melty
>>740769825There was a long stretch in the middle of the edition when they were overpowered
>>740786808every fucking tau discussion devolves into TAU MILKERS after the first fucking five posts WHEN IT'S NOT THE CONVERSATION STARTERyou can fuck right off, taufag
>>740777550yeah to their credit they did backtrack hard after the outcry and posted a picture of a prototype ""steel legion"" soldier written on a napkinI know I come across as cynical but I do actually appreciate them caving on this, shows they give a fuck
>>740789130full helmets better be one of the first mods out there, but i would take mannish, obnoxious and ugly i just need to hide the niggers
>>740786808>play against tautist>I pull out a basilisk>he starts screaming about how that is an improper unit and how his dudes should have an infinite range with 100% accuracy and mine should be meatwaves which get shot with tau plasma folded a 1000 times
>>740784035You could make a really cool game about being the first IG responding force to a PDF distress call and holding the line until the rest of the IG shows up. Give it Halo Reach vibes
>>740790574Was he really skinny or really really fat?
So how exactly will the space marine faction play? Do you control only one chapter?
>>740791184Yes, you pick a premade faction or make custom chapterAs Marines, regions you conquer are garrisoned by Imperial Guard anyway. Probably you will be a Horde in Total War termsEldar are supposed to have some unreachable base and are super unique faction to play. I predict Changeling being a prototype for Eldar.
>>740791679will dump more webms I made
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>>740791791>7how much you're paid
>>740766857Don't worry about that anon, the problem is they lost before it even released
>>740787597>>740790203>>740790574Imperium fanboys prove all the stereotypes correct every timetruly the niggers of 40k
>>740792260I'm doing it for freeI'm long time 40k and TW fanatic
chaos wins just through life existing, why are they so focused on directly controlling this specific galaxy? Can't they just let humans be humans while they soak up their chaos emotions or whatever
>>740790203tau milker gooners are more entertaining than the raging spess muhrine retards who have the same retarded conversations about whose fictional dad could beat up the other fictional dad on repeatt. IG main
>>740792776shit, anon, maybe because they don't win by simply existing and need to get involved to insure their survival and empowerment?
>>740792360Tau weebs prove you just play them because you're too retarded to play Gundams.
Can someone fill me in on what Cypher did? I keep hearing that he broke into the Imperial Palace, to the Golden Throne itself and it woke the Emperor up?
>>740794626he also made you lost the Game
>>740795027You mean lose the game? Which game? Tyranids are making me lose the game.
>>740766857there will zero strategy or tacticsit will just be a spectacle veiwing thing.all mechanics will be pointless and have no effect, except for the levels of the hero
>>740766857Total War hasn't been good since before Warhammer. Those games ruined the gameplay of this franchise completely.
>>740795241I bet on a special ressources for each factions but it does the same things
>>740795290>>740795241TWW is the only difficult TW game and the only one with any tactics and strategy to itTW40K will naturally be even better
>>740772745Humanity are the protagonists of Warhammer. They are good by default. Tau might be a more relatively normal civilization that humans could relate with as opposed to all the other monstrous races they encounter, but they are not friendly and are still an enemy.
>>740766857>How will they fuck it up?with $10000 of DLCs
>>740795409Retarded and pathetic bait
>>740766857>How will they fuck it upBy making it 40k.Total Warhammer 3 is awful compared to 2 so it's already pretty much guaranteed garbage.
>>740795635so why you fell for it
>>740795635It's trueall histfags are filtered the second enemy army doesn't break instantly after they cheese AI by assassinating enemy generalFantastical abilities and features AI has access to is the only thing that can make it dangerous in Total War games.
>>740795893see>>740795635
>>740796737you know it's true
>>740794484I don't even collect Xenos you retarded pavement apego consooom some more tiktok lore
>>740795893>>740795409delusional retard lmaothe ai is easy as shit in warhammer tw. it is too stupid to use magic in any meaningful way
>>740797447What the fuck are you saying? Speak English.
>>740798948Warhammer has the only good TW AI. Historical AI is completely useless. Warhammer one will make sure to disable your ranged units with flanking or flying units, push through your lines with heroes and single entity heroes, dodge artillery shots and much more
>>740782140Mechanicus yesSororitas yesCustodes+SoS maybeAdeptus Arbites maybeeveryone else no, only as units for existing factions
>>740799369DO NOT REDEEEEEEMSAAAR SAAARDO NOT REDEEEEEEEM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>740800575I asked you about Tau, you said you were a Tau player then said you don't collect Xenos, the fuck? Do you speak English? How are you a Tau player but don't collect Xenos? They're an alien faction, the default perspective of WH40K is from Humanity.
>>740767804Skaven are getting added to 40k.
>>740802000We already have skaven except cooler
>>740772174They have to save units for DLC obviously. Its easy to forget the gaping holes in the launch rosters for Total War Fantasy
>>740802116>Nothing like skavenHuh
>>740801835I literally never said I was a Tau player you third world shitskin
>>740802543You are an illiterate ESL, stop speaking my language you degrade my culture by trying to use it.
>>740766857>made for consoles
I'm baffled that they made the Space Marines one faction. I know you can just customize the one space marine faction, but it's not the same as the more iconic chapters getting their own factions. Campaign mode will especially suffer for this because you won't get stories tailored to the lore rich space marine chapters like the Dark Angels. (Imagine a 40k marine campaign about hunting the fallen, purging chaos, and reuniting your broken chapter for example)
>>740803375>brownoid nigger pretending to be whitemany such cases
>>740802116>makes everyone die of ligma
>>740804275I'm fucking glad, we don't need legions counting as races.
>>740804275I don't think the player will be the only space marine faction. They'll have AI factions with random chapters probably
>>740804275there's literally no reason that space marine chapters being filed under the same faction would limit what they can and can't do for their campaign objectivesif we use warhammer 3 as an example kairos and the changeling have completely different campaigns despite both being under the tzeentch faction
>>740766857Total War should be an autobattler mode. The battles would be cool of it wasn't so much tedious strategy work to do.
>Total War should be an autobattler mode. The battles would be cool of it wasn't so much tedious strategy work to do.
>>740766857In all their usual ways>aggressive powercreep over the lifetime of the game>lackadaisical to nonexistent bugfixing>unit balancing that can best be described as blindAnd of course>the eventual farming out of all content to an external, inexperienced studio
>>740804275>it's not the same as the more iconic chapters getting their own factionsIf I have to guess you will have Ultramarines and Imperial Fists in a base game, alongside their generic successors. And will be allowed to make your own successor chapters to those two.Big 4 will be dlcs and come with their unique units and flavor. There is no way around it. They will do it. And then you will be able to make successor chapter for Dangels as well.And then they may try to make dlcs for other 1st founding chapters and more unique successors. Hell, by that point even GW may expand stuff like Iron Hands into full subfaction
>>740766857It's literally made for consoles (soon to be obsolete) you can't go lower than this plus gay niggers
>>740783414>no dick enhancementsweak
Can someone explain Warhammer to me? Why is it that it attracts the literal worst kind of people? The DnD player. The millennial manchild. The Redditor. The Discord admin. "The Warhammer Aficionado." The Apple Product user. The LGBT individual. In fact, these are all synonymous. You can be all of these things simultaneously.I have NEVER found a Warhammer product enjoyable. Genuinely a "slop franchise." I get it, right. It's about the "power fantasy." It's about role-playing as a Super Soldier kills aliens. But why would you build your entire identity around this franchise? At least Halo chads could admit they are retarded. Warhammer-ers will tell you this is the next coming of Jesus. But their shit is ass?
>Halo chads
>>74080513940k should have a unicorn overlord ripoff
It already contains primaris marines, so it's fucked.
>>740807623We'll admit we can suck cock. We'll admit it.Warhammer-ers will larp that they don't.
>>740807436see >>740771961
>>740806226>Imperial Fistslol
>>740807436No, you nailed it. It’s a thing you pick up as a teenager because there’s so much cool things to learn about it and then the junction comes where either you realize that the setting basically doesn’t exist and it’s a handful or relevant planets and a galaxy worth of empty space, the numbers are handled incompetently, and everyone’s retarded, or you sunk cost fallacy with the tens of hours you spent reading and reinforce your love of it.
>>740807815Utterly laughable. SM2 and Darktide are both inferior to Vermintide. Owlcat’s cRPGs are neat but all got annihilated in popularity by fucking BG3. The Dawn of War series is a fun curiosity but there’s no way in hell it’s the best in RTS under any imagination.
>>740807842They have zero flavor. It makes sense to put them into the base game rather than sell as DLC. They are just Bolter guys. And like Gravis now apparently. And we know some Gravis units are in game already. There aren't many of those, so potential Imperial Fist and Gravis dlc is doubtful
>>740808101Please tell me gravis isn’t just “own a combi-powerfist” because the Grey Knights tried that a decade ago and it didn’t land.
>>740808094Darktide and SM2 are upgrades over VT2 which was the best action game ever made until those twoNothing else comes close to RT so far, especially not pleb shit like bg3As far as strategy goes 40k has it cornered completely, not only with RTS, but also other genres like 4x, tactics, xcom clones etc
>>740808270This is bait or delusion.
>>74080837640k won, cope and seethe all you wantAll the best games are 40kOnly games worth waiting for are 40k, like TW40K, Dark Heresy and DoW4It's a savior of gaming
>>740808483Bait, then.
>>740807842Dorn and the Imperial Fists are based. They were the MVPs of the Horus Hersey, Dorn is based as fuck and BTFO multiple chaos primarchs, they have the most badass duelist (Sigismund), and the most badass successor chapter, the Black Templars, comes from them
>>740766857When will it be free on EGS?I've got Total War: Warhammer 1,2 and 3 and never played any of them.
>>740804275Good. Fuck marinefags.
>>740808265So you know how Space Marines are supposed to be able to move in power armor like their naked? Gravis is the logical progression of that, with someone adding more armor plates on top of what's already there. It is effectively about half way between normal SM armor and Terminator armor but without the dark age tech like personal teleportation.Because this is a completely rational line of logic, 40K fans threw a tantrum over its existence.
>>740808265Phobos is light armorTacticus is medium armorGravis is heavy armorTerminators are eliteMKX gimmick is being extremely modular (and having this reflected in game rules for once). Gravis is just more plates onto Tacticus, which are just more plates onto Phobos. There are other, niche configurations as well. Marine could in theory go into battle in Gravis and then strip into Tacticus as his armor is damaged.You have "Heavy Intercessors" which are bolt rifle using unit in Gravis, so they are just a heavier version of Tacticus "Intercessors". There is also more gimmicky unit of "Aggressors" which are little Calgars essentially. And "Eradicators" which are small squads where all carry heavy weapons.This fits whatever little flavor Imperial Fists have as tanky defenders.
>>740808784Imperial fists only got so far in the heresy because all of their books were written by John french, who is incredibly biased towards them and makes every faction they fight act out of character to make the loss marines look better.They are also even more boring than the ultramarines and the greatest trick TTS ever pulled was making people think Dorn had a personality
>>740808721nah
would it be too immersion breaking for them to let you customize chaos space marines into Night Lords considering they are known for not fighting their opponents head-on and always pick weaker foes or fights they know they can't lose?
>>740809368Just because you're known for something doesn't mean that is the only thing you do. Furthermore, all you have to do is win to prove you are picking weaker foes.
Are Imperiumnigs ready for when DoW has every faction fighting on equal footing with tabletop balancing? I've already observed never-ending completely baffled when they see blood ravens trading kills with Orks or Eldar in game cutscenes and the reaction whenever a tau battlesuit or pathfinder kills space marines is downright explosive
>>740766857I think they won't. The main problems with TW fantasy was DLC prices and then they fucked up their AI for a bit. The only other problem with CA was Hyenas, which they were forced to make by their superior and the chronicles TWs which were panned for being too small and basic, again, probably not going to be a problem with 40k.
>>740808784>Dorn and the Imperial Fists are based.Hope you are ready for the incoming reveal that chaos only exist in 40k due to Dorn being a complete retard that ignored all of his brothers.
i hate taufaggots
>>740809504NL are known for only two things. Being comically edgy and getting humiliated by everyone.
>>740809137>the greatest trick TTS ever pulled was making people think Dorn had a personalityStoic, loyal, stubborn, proud, idealistic, and autistic. I believe that Dorn truly believed in the Emperor's vision for humanity. After the Hersey he was mind broken and blinded by rage and pride, which led to his schism with Guilliman, following the creation of the Codex Astartes. Moreover, it's also why Dorn basically threw his life away at the Iron Cage. He'd lost the will to live. The Emperor was gone, his dream was dead, the traitors got away with it, and now Guilliman was telling him that he had to split up his legion. That was his reward for singlehandedly keeping Tera safe during the Hersey. It was too much to bare, and it's implied that Dorn pretty much knew the Iron Cage was a suicide mission.
