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What happened? Their games are fucking awful and the future looks even worse.
Laufey looks atrocious, wolverine is just Ubisoftslop.
Intergalactic is just trash.
It's not only because of wokeism and California, there must be something more to it.
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>>740767423
The bad decisions they made 15byears ago are catching up with them
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>>740767423
Creative bankruptcy. I've been stuck with PS ever since I won a PS2 in a giveaway back in 2001 and the exclusives were a huge reason to stick with it. The quality of the exclusives went downhill during PS4, and as of now I've yet to buy a single exclusive for PS5. I would have honestly made the jump to PC had prices not skyrocketed and devs not forgotten to optimise a game for shit. The only reason I'm still playing is because I know I can at least expect a game to run on the fucking thing.

/v/ thinks it's snoyggers defending the cinematic slop when it's xitter fags that don't even play the games.
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>>740768081
>quality went downhill during ps4
>I know, I’ll buy a ps5
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>>740768356
It wont change for the next 10 years either. They've probably started to refocus themselves internally from the ruinous path that Jim Ryan set them on, but we won't see any results until the next set of games that come after this bunch, and that won't happen for a very long time. Might even take until the PS6.
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>>740768515
Yep, no reason to buy anything playstation until 2030 at least
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>>740767423
Jim Ryan and his successor, Herman Haltz
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>>740767423
The problem is the snoycattle. They keep buying and buying, they liked getting scammed.
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>>740768879
What reason would you have to buy it in 2030?
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>>740767423
but all their games are great?
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>>740770097
HAHAHAHAHA
What a bootlicker.
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>>740767423
Astrobot was great so yes amerimutts are the problem as usual, can't wait for that shithole to collapse.
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>Lost ShiftUp (Because they pushed them away) Stellar Blade Blood Rain was the most popular game at the show
>Lost From Software Exclusive
>Couldn't secure a Kingdom Hearts 4 showing at their show, even though it's been known as Playstation series since the beginning
>Lost Spyro

Their two biggest games were western slop that got mogged hard from Eastern games. No one is even talking about their flagship titles anymore. As Playstation fan i'm so fed about with Sony. They spent all their money on live service crap and stupid western shit they pushed away all the Eastern games that made them what they were. Giving all the power to their western branch was such a huge mistake.
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They lost when they pushed Stellar Blade away.
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>>740770158
no, just a gamer with taste while you are seething online :)
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>>740770369
Wolverine is embarrassing. Only idiots would buy this crap.
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Nobody actually gives a fuck about sony exclusives and this has been the case for 3 whole console generations

Playstations are multiplat machines for peiple who cannot be bothered to build a pc or shell out 3-5k for a decent prebuilt
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>>740770547
Kek you either a paid shill or an idiot
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>>740770369
Don't forget
>Lost Square Enix
Their times exclusives bombed so bad on PS5 that Square Enix doesn't even want to reveal multiplats at Sony events afraid the barrier will affect them again
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12 live services announcement is like the biggest red flag, how do you guys not notice
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Xbox is just a better deal overall.
Game pass, good looking and actual fun games and you have an excellent ecosystem that doesn't try to scam you at every moment.
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>>740767423
Even the lackluster direct was better than their state of play, hell all the big hitters you would expect at a Sony E3 presentation all left them, they all ended up at the SGF, Xbox Showcase and the direct instead. It is pretty telling how little developers and Japanese ones in particular think of the modern Playstation brand.
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>>740770547
What was the last 10/10 game you played in your opinion?
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>>740770934
This was the biggest red flag for the State of Gay. I had an inkling that FF7 Revelation would be at either State of Gay or SGF, but Kingdom Hearts 4 at the Tendie Direct well and truly showed that Squenix has ditched Sony for good. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony had asked for FF7 Revelation to be shown at State of Gay and Squenix promptly told them to fuck off.
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Persona 6 at Xbox conference, KH4 at Nintendo and asha pulling Halo trailers from snoys direct kek
What a humiliation
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>>740767423
They got GTA6. They don't have to worry about anything.
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>don't announce anything
>all games come to it anyways like a vacuum
I'm sure they'll survive having no gears, especially when Reloaded was the only xbox port that sold like dogshit
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>>740767423
their first party was always awful except for Crash, Spyro, & Uncharted 1-3
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>>740774136

You know what's really going to be funny? When OOT Remake outsells the PS5 version of GTA6. Its going to be FF7 Remake vs Animal Crossing all over again, where everyone was betting that FF7 Remake would outsell Animal Crossing and the opposite happened. I cant wait for the meltdowns and the articles that will be written.
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>>740774631
Not sure if false flag but tagging this post for posteriority anyways.
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>>740774812

TAG IT. Its gonna happen. The malding will be legendary. The gaming articles from sites like IGN will be legendary. OOT REMAKE WILL OUTSELL PS5 GTA6 worldwide.
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Not only will OOT remake outsell the PS5's version of GTA6, it will outsell it by a lot.
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>>740767423
Another Xbox nigger cope thread.
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>>740767423
They went from providing a cheap CD player with limited 3D capabilities, to a bunch of formats with overpriced licensing and didn't do enough to prevent 60$ games from establishing themselves, rather than the more comfy 20$ target that optical media were capable of.
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>>740767423
>What happened?
A certain group of people.
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>>740770520
>>740770369
They alienated shift up on the lead up to stellar blade's release. From what I heard shift up was coerced to change many things in the game to be more adequate for the modern western audience.
I think at that point, shift up was already fed up and wanted to distance themselves from Sony asap
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>>740770369
Third parties dropping exclusivity is a good thing. Sony shouldn't be relying on shady deals over their own content. Their priority should be on improving their games and their platform.
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>>740771078
Good morning sir.
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>>740775041
You are insane.
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>>740776112
The early outfit censorship was the most glaring issue. But Shift Up probably wanted to go independent anyway. Nikke has become pretty big and Stellar Blade sold great on Steam.
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>>740776210

What you going to say WHEN it happens? GTA6 will outsell OOT Remake in the long run because GTA6 will be ported to everything, but OOT remake will outsell the PS5 version. Also GTA6 hype is mostly an internet-based phenomenon, just like the Steam Deck was, which in the real world only sold about 4 million units.
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>>740774631
Thats a red herring. The Ocarina of Time remake is not gonna move the needle either way, it's a redundant cash grab like DEmake 4 and the FF7 Remake trilogy. GTA6 could be a massive boost to PS5 and Xbox and it's completely unrelated to all these remakes.
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>>740776417
GTAV sold 230 million copies.

Nintendo doesn't have any franchise on that level aside from Pokemon.
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>>740776272
Stellar Blade not only sold great on Steam, it outsold the ps5 version 3 to 1 last time I checked
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>>740776529
Hopefully they release Blood Rain on Steam day one. All these timed exclusives are lame as fuck.
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>>740776512
Yeah, but GTAV didnt cost 120$ on release and back then consoles still had a huge playerbase.
GTA VI will be expensive as fuck and be sold on the two least owned platforms on the market currently.
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>>740776649
Xbox Series has sold 35 million copies, that's still more than the Toddler console 2.
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>>740776749
>ResetEra
You have to go back.
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killing their japanese market has to be one of the absolute dumbest things they've ever done.
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>>740776748
Xbox has sold 35 million total between series S and X, but individually they both sold less than the switch 2, and 3/4s of ps5 solds were fake receipts found in african villages. There is no scenario in which GTA VI does well
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>>740776512

GTAV on PS4 sold 24 million copies. BOTW on Switch MOGGED IT at 33.84 million. Also, the Switch RAPED the PS4. Read my post again, OOT remake will outsell the PS5's GTA6.
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>>740767423
People really forgot how much third party exclusives and Japs being retarded carried PS4 when it comes to exclusives huh. Atlus catalog and RGG with Yakuza,Falcom titles and many more Japanese publishers and devs making shit Playstation exclusive by default while Sony had to do absolutely nothing. They ignored PCs,Xbox and even home console Nintendo. After Japs stopped being retarded and went multiplatform and decided to stop doing third party deals Sony lost insane amount of genre diversity when it comes to exclusives. Without these Playstation became westernized third person cinematic experience game as this board calls them "moviegames". Since PS4 release Sonys first party output was basically The Last of Us clones but [here insert IP] and Polyphony continues to make same game for last 30 years and thats it. They literally have no studios because they relied so much on third parties defaulting to Playstation before.
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>>740776946
Series S is 90% of all Xbox Series sales.
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>>740776986
Nu Zelda has consistently sold better than Old Zelda. You don't play games.
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>>740767423
Sony holds the monopoly. There is no need for them to improve cause they dominate the market and all woke media praises their movie games and ugly women, which encourages sony's behavior.
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>>740776989
The Wii U being and Xboner being huge flops probably helped Sony there.
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>>740776795

Go back and read that thread. That's when Snoys thought FF7 Remake was their white knight. Now FF7 is now multiplatform. Now Snoys have latched on to GTA6. PS5 is dead. Nothing will revive it.
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>>740776748
Series consoles are at 40 milly by now going by data. 33 million was last time MS gave data and it was 3+ years ago. There IS a reason why publishers still support these consoles especially weak shitbox S. They do make money on these ports despite fags claiming that xbox is super dead since if that wouldnt be the case then they would drop support for the platform like they always did with Wii U and other hardware.
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>>740777209
The PS5 has sold 90 million copies and a successful GTA6 would push them to PS4 levels. The problem is that they overrely on that rather than making their own IP.
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>>740777261
>There IS a reason why publishers still support these consoles
Because it's as easy as literally pressing a button?
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This shit funny as hell, this dude is a lifelong Snoy gamer who was making fun of Nintendo fans for getting over OoT remake, and he does a stream playing OoT just to clown on the game and then ends up really liking it and says he wants to try to beat a Zelda game (even as he struggles to swallow his pride and actually admit it)

https://www.youtube.com/live/8PRHmGhLL0k

Many snoy fans have just genuinely never played an actual true GAME instead of cinematic slop
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>>740767423
When you see God of War be about Kratos shoehorned wife, in a totally alien setting and having an annoying talking cube as a companion, that explains the entire picture.

Microsoft is still making Gears of War exactly as it was 20 years ago.
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>>740777261
Xbox still has a sizeable number of hardcore games that are loyal to the brand and have a big library of games spanning multiple gens. Microsoft has tried really hard to fuck their fans and studios, otherwise they would be doing as well as during the Xbox 360 era.
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>Been visiting /v/ since 07
>IT'S LITERALLY OVER FOR SONY going strong now for two decades
They win because they're a reliable multiplat machine. Occasionally I buy a PS exclusive, but it's not the "reason" to buy one. You're not trapped to playing their shit they way you are with Nintendo. You get to play everything for the duration of a gen without needing to upgrade individual parts. Good deal.
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>>740777304
>The PS5 has sold 90 million copies and a successful GTA6 would push them to PS4 levels.
If it was 2022. Anyone who wanted to buy PS5 for GTA6 already bought one two price hikes ago.
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>another sony derangement thread
Just 2 more weeks! This time for sure!
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>>740776592
I doubt they'll stagger the release dates if they're publishing it themselves this time
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>>740777449
There are still plenty of gamers out there who could give up on a limb or two so they can buy the biggest game ever.
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>>740777445
Well, you forced yourself to accept their DEI garbage since what? TLoU came out? Now you're defending a game with a millenial writting gelatinous cube
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>>740767423
Playstation's always pushed for cinematic prowess and narrative. Never mind Final Fantasy VII and Metal Gear Solid, look at how good Crash 2 and Spyro looked and sounded for their time. The difference is that in the PS1/PS2 eras, that was way cheaper and faster to do. PS3 was a double whammy of ballooning costs and finding a golden goose template to rehash in Uncharted. Ever since PS4, the refusal to back down from their ideals against the reality of cost has basically pigeonholed their shit. Everything has to sell tens of millions because being Playstation in the 2020s, to push for the FFVIIs and MGSs of today, means dropping tens, if not hundreds of millions on a single title. Hardly the case back in the 90s and early 00s.
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>>740777490
Hi janny, still mad about those Marathon threads you've deleted? lmao
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>>740777015
its not. split always was in favour of series x maybe it changed but your percentage is pulled from ass. I worked at vendor that sends out shit to retail franchised shops globally and majority of xbox hardware sales were series x. Not by much though.
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>>740767423
Playstation fell into the same trap that Sega fell into during the console war that it started and ultimately lost, chasing trends, and live service.
Over emphasis on graphics. Graphics are quickly becoming an enormous money furnace on the development side. The AI trade is also increasing the cost of computing components which is putting pressure on the customer. More graphics means more processing power is needed, meaning more expensive components are needed for manufacturing hardware, meaning that developers have to also spend more money on just the graphics. Not only that, but graphics in itself is already hitting diminishing returns. When everything has good graphic" everything looks the same.
Chasing trends. With development times and budgets going through the roof, they are chasing trends in hopes of getting a high return. Problem is, a trend is called a trend for a reason. Trends have a life span before they become old, boring, and unappealing. This means that with games having longer development times, what they are working on will be out of flavor on release. Reason why Nintendo is doing so well is because they never chased a trend, they set the trend, they have been setting the trend for 40 years.
Abandoning Japan in favor of the west in all things. The key competitive advantage they had since the PS2 era and at its peak during the PS4 era was the large amount of exclusive games that were japanese. They had a lot of japanese IP to work with and they squandered it. They're trying to play catch up with their scrimbo blimbo's but the problem is that they are playing catch up. They lost so much time by neglecting scrimbo blimbo that having it come back has very little impact. The playstation brand right now is basically filled with games that are essentially the same.
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>still gets every third party game
this time its definitely over for snoy
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>>740777706
Live service chasing was also a huge waste of money and resources. Again, they wanted live service because they wanted to have an easy revenue generator that would exploit customers who are too poor to buy a game, but rich enough to spend way more than a games cost. Problem is that live service is purely fueled by sunk cost fallacy. Meaning that the games that moved first and won will continue to win while newer games fail hard.
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>>740777360
>he says as devs bitch how series s makes porting hard
>despite of that they still support the platform
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/no-rest-for-the-wicked-director-says-xbox-version-wont-release-alongside-ps5-because-series-s-is-making-that-rough/
Curious.
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>>740777601
>Literally just said you're not forced to play exclusives, it's a cheap and reliable multiplat machine
>YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT THE EXCLUSIVES?
Retard
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>>740777653
???
The last thread that was deleted was a Palworld one
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>>740777304

Nope. PS5 is dead. Even Sony knows this. Snoys live on the internet, not in the real world. Oh well.
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Every year for the past 20 years same threads.
But this for real really
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>>740767423
I don't really get what ppl are so upset about, exclusives are pretty much dead for both consoles. I don't care what shitbox I play my games on.
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>>740767423
They put a germanoid in charge of their creative output, fucking lol.
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>>740777429
Ironically people who still own Xbox are more likely to be hardcore gamers than ones who own PS5 kek. As you said Xbox fags are ones who were gaming for decade+ and in general people who are into gaming sphere while PS5 nowadays for normalfags is like iPhone so casual audience is a lot bigger. I personally know two dudes who got PS5s as a gift from their wifes because PS5 is THE "box that plays video games" in mind of average person aka gun and ball casuals.
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Reveals I expected to be at a state of play since it's supposed to be the best place to play
>RE Veronica
>FF7 revelation
>Stellar blade 2
>Kingdom hearts 4 gameplay
>Dragon Quest 12 gameplay
>Monster Hunter Wilds ascendance
>Dragon Dogma 2 Dark arisen
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>>740777706
>Reason why Nintendo is doing so well is because they never chased a trend, they set the trend
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>>740778021
all still coming to PS5 btw
Don't forget even Microsoft agrees the PS5 is the best place to play Halo
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>>740767423

>ILL trailer
>Kemuri trailer
>Onimusha 5 trailer
>Phantom Blade 0 trailer
>Ace Combat 8 trailer
>Stuntman Hollywood trailer
>Tokkon villain team trailer
>Tomb Raider Atlantis trailer
>Control Resonant trailer
>Until Dawn 2 trailer

I don't understand or follow you, i thought they had a good presentation last week and their future looks decent?
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>>740778020
I wonder what the attach rate is between the two? I remember the vita used to have disproportionately good sales numbers because it had a more hardcore audience. Though gamepass has probably skewed it a lot.
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>>740778112
now remove the xbox and pc games
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>>740778021
Yeah but they're all still multiplat regardless. SoP, Xbox and Direct were all just advertising each other's games lol. Not that I mind. Was happy to see some KH4 snippets and I'm interested in FF Resonance. Both at Direct. Both will be played on my PS5.
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>>740767423
They unironically sold out to suits. Investors became their gods. They make games for them, not for gamers, anymore. For example, look at Herman Hulst. Look at the direction he took, and keeps on heading in. He only cares about live service slop: he pushed for Concord, he pushed for Marathon, he's now pushing for a Horizon multiplayer. There's not future for Sony unless they do something about him and his ilk.
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>>740778021
Really shows third party have no confidence in the PS5 anymore, PC is basically their last hope
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>>740777706
>Abandoning Japan in favor of the west in all things.

Why the FUCK did Sony do this? The biggest selling consoles in North America are the DS and the Switch. So they abandoned a large market to chase a market that Nintendo is bigger than them in? And now Nintendo raped them in both markets. Sony executives are almost as stupid as the Xbox executives.
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>>740777706
And ultimately, and i feel this is the biggest reason. It's because playstation as a brand has constantly chased the older audience.
That older audience is basically a bunch of boring old men between the ages of 35-48 and you see that reflection in the games that they are making. They are ALWAYS making games for that insanely old demographic, that is only consumed by that insanely old demographic. They do not have products that are made for younger audiences to play at that young age and allows them to get into the playstation brand. Eventually the demographic that they chase are going to age out of the market and they'll be left with a huge void.
We are getting playstation games that basically feature nothing but boring ugly characters that are old men and old women. They don't have any appeal at all. Why would anyone who is young or have a sense of aesthetic want games like that?
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>>740777706
>Reason why Nintendo is doing so well is because they never chased a trend, they set the trend
iwata is dead man, they stopped setting trends and got back into the arms race which is why they are also getting fucked by AI hardware prices. Had they stuck their original course and innovated with "gimmicks" on weaker hardware they wouldn't be stuck on this train ride off the cliff.
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>>740778443
They're not the ones with the near $1000 console. They also know that they and everyone else are getting fucked by AI and are trying to pivot to making software have bang for its buck. Problem is that the market doesn't have faith in software right now.
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>>740778112
>Until Dawn 2 trailer
>only actual exclusive from that list is literal interactive movie
lmao...
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>>740767423
What happened was some retard blew money on live service slop and it didn't work out so their clutching the purse and only investing in IP'S that Will generate money because predictable consumer base
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>>740778365

They cant fire him because he's under contract. Sony is stuck with him. He is Playstation's Phil Spencer and he will cause a lot of damage before they finally get rid of him.
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>>740767423
What happend that made you lose your shit again today?

>>740778157
>multiplats only count when they come years later to my shitty tablet
Nah
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I don't know maybe I'm just getting old but it honestly felt like nobody won this year and the only decent showing was SGF. The console wars is a lot of bull shit and anyone who takes it seriously other than for shits and giggles is a dummy, you go where the games are. I do miss the 360 generation though I really hope Xbox can get their shit back together because I'm running out of reasons to own a PS5 and Switch 2.
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>>740778618
That can't be right, any employee can be fired if they do a shit job. Jim ryan was fired 4 years in
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>>740767423
Consoles can never win against PC.
>Nintendo
Has enough IPs to stand on its own.
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Is it actually better to sell your own software vs third party software?
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>>740778548
They are marketing a console for kids and they are having to charge 500 dollars, the thing is dead in the water. A retarded adult with a job can afford 1k to play FIFA and GTA if they are too stupid to buy a PC, a child cannot and their parents aren't going to spend that much on a console with $80 games either. Nintendo's wild success was they avoided this trap for 25 years and they fell right into it the minute iwata died.
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>>740778838
>Has enough IPs to stand on its own
Too bad they didn't use them for the Switch 2.
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>>740769814
Like Marathon and Concord you mean?
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>>740778721
Yeah anon thats the thing - its not about who had the best show but which one was least shitest lol.
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>>740778952
Except you and i know that it is not a nintendo exclusive problem. Again, they don't have the $1000 console. In a world where everything is expensive, anything cheaper, even if it is still expensive will be seen as a deal.
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>>740778916
The best option is having a live service game like Genshin or Fortnite on your platform.
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>>740778916
You keep more money off a first party sale but you have the added cost of making the game. You used to want both, first party and third party games The first party games caused people to buy the console and then you get money off the third party sales. Now, most people play cod/fortnite/fifa/roblox/etc. You can have shitty first party games as long as people buy your console.
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>>740779123
Don't they only get 30% of that revenue?
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could be worse. That tendie direct sucked ass.
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>>740779179
Why does Sony even waste money making first party stuff? They should just sell all their devs, they obviously don't need them
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>>740779179
A wise man once told me: you can't make a man spend $80 but you can make a man spend $20 7 times a week.
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>>740779361
So drones can pretend their console is better because they have exclusives like Wolverine
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>>740776512
Not all at one go, and 230m sales does not equal 230m players. Most of those copies are heavily discounted double, triple, quadruple-dips because they had cheap GTAO cash.
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>>740777587
Some, sure. It won't be a huge boost that changes PS5's trajectory in its twilight year, though
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>>740779076
Thats the fucking point, Nintendo never had any of these problems post gamecube because they weren't playing a losing game, they chose to play this game with no prize because they picked a brainless moron to succeed Iwata. This isn't just about console prices and game prices, cost to produce games goes up, time to produce games goes up, reliance on prebaked engines goes up leading to homogenisation, desire to experiment goes down, reliance on remakes goes up, competition from generic brands begins to pressure them. All because they were too scared to have a vision beyond more power = better.

In a world in which all gaming consoles are out of reach children just play f2p mobile games and gatcha. This stupid myopic thinking "well if sony is struggling too then thats OK" is what is going to kill all of them.
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>>740779014
Well if that's the case Xbox technically won. Crazy Taxi looks fun. On a separate note why is Sony using ninja theory to make yet another shitty Senua game.
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>>740777404
>Microsoft is still making Gears of War exactly as it was 20 years ago.
Gears 4 and 5 were a thing and Xbox still sucks shit.
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Playstation and Xbox are third party consoles
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>>740767423
what happened was they were kicked out of Japan and had to move their HQ to California. you do the math it's pretty simple why they suck now.
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>>740777404
>Microsoft is still making Gears of War exactly as it was 20 years ago.
That's why the care people have for Gears exponentially diminishes every time.
Mexico alone is carrying the franchise
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>>740779209
At what cost? And compare that to Wolverine which will likely cost $250m+. They are going to need to sell around six million copies at full price to break even after the Disney tax. Gacha is practically free cash.
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>>740777404
>Microsoft is still making Gears of War exactly as it was 20 years ago.
stop and pop was already old and played out 15 years ago, I cant believe they are still making these games in 2026.
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>>740778378
Because in the early 10s that very much looked like the restructuring move. People forget that the 7th gen was kind of a low point for the reputation of Japanese games, there was a prevailing sentiment that they weren't "changing with the times". They were still around and all, and no one gave them shit on handhelds where they flourished, but there was a more open disdain towards them in the console space for the most part, this is where your Keiji Inafunes and Phil Fishes started being insufferable. Sony didn't quite misread the room but they were perhaps too slow, live services were the real golden goose they were after with that move.
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>>740767423
Trend chasing. They found a formula that most people enjoy and they focus on that.
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>>740779542
>Still crying about MUH GIMMICK a year later
You are so fucking mad Nintendo iterated on the winning formula instead of doing another Wii U with useless, pointless gimmicks
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>>740779574
Xbox needs to get their IP back on track and it looks like Asha has the right intentions. Phil Spencer had a hands off approach letting developers do what they want which is how we ended up with Multiple games stagnating in development hell. Asha needs to start reigning things back in.
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>>740770619
I 100 percented the first Insomniac Spider-Man. Maybe I'd rent Wolverine from the public library six months after release.

I only watched the SOP for new info on Tomb Raider, which I'll probably play on my ROG Ally X anyway.
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>>740779209

Yes. Playstation's revenue is grossly over inflated by shady accounting. Xbox also does this. Nintendo is the only one who counts only the 30% as revenue.
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>What happened?
They started getting competition from Nintendo unlike during the PS4 days, and terrible Western executives with no long term planning.

Not like it matters to me, the PS2 will be the last console I will own.
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>>740779542
They were playing a strategy that worked for the economy that they had to deal with. Now they can't do that any more. That's literally one of the problems anon talked about earlier about graphics. Costs go up when you are pushing graphics and more powerful hardware. It was eventually going to happen but now we have the perfect storm that anon was talking about.
Gacha will always win because its low cost and the developers give the fans what they want. Why do you think nikke is doing so well despite the fact that LITERALLY NOTHING happens in the story? At least their developers are making single player games.
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>>740767423
>It's not only because of wokeism and California, there must be something more to it.
Nope. That about sums it up.
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>>740778774

Executive employment has different standards.
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>>740779958
Xbox needs to die
Same as Microsoft

They've ruined gaming
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>>740779947
The switch is also based on a gimmick you retard. Nintendo stock is crashing harder than it did with the WiiU because they "iterated on the winning formula" which is exactly what the WiiU was, "lets make a Wii 2".
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>>740777785
You're not forced to play exclusives. You're forced to pay an online subscription though. You are going to play Genshit Impact or whatever goon bait of your preference that you use to cope, on a machine like that, when you could just use your PC, you're an idiot.
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>>740768081
>and as of now I've yet to buy a single exclusive for PS5
well there are only 2 of them. astrobot and demons souls.
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>>740780139
Nintendo stock is crashing because it isnt a semiconductor company.
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>>740780139
>Nintendo stock is crashing

Just as planned. Nintendo will just buy back their stock and eventually go private like Valve. It gets all the retarded Ai slop investors off their backs.
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>>740767423
F
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>>740780006
>Gacha will always win because its low cost and the developers give the fans what they want
gacha fucking sucks, the only reason you play it is if you have no other option which is why it is the game of choice for people taking a shit or when on the train. It becomes the most appealing option when kids cant afford better experiences. Nobody forced nintendo to become a graphics whore and throw out trend setting behaviours. There was never an economy where expensive consoles + expensive games with 6 year dev cycles + boring hardware was ever a winning formula.
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>>740780139
Buy low, sell high.
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>>740780006
Nikke is dead already. Taking big fucking steps to EOS with their scumbag practices.
New players are not able to keep up with so many 1% banners one after another, now we'll have 3 limited characters running with multiple previous ones.
Only a giga whale, and one that didn't fucking spend his entire bank account trying to core max the previous ones, would be able to roll this much.

You're going to go "ooh not my problem your a poorfag lelelel" like a rat
Streamers for this shit don't see any return. You have guys like Sky nearly giving up this game because it's impossible to keep up and no one is watching his streams. This game is a massive money drain.
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>>740780407
Shadow of the Colossus alone was better than anything Snoy has put out since.
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they keep making the same game over and over
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>>740767423
Headquarters are in California. It's woke slop. Lesbians, blacks, Indians, women, DSA cuckolds.
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>>740780139
>Nintendo stock is crashing harder than it did with the WiiU
what? nintendo was at 2.50 during the wii u
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>>740770369
Look at that basedboy faggot.
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They're more profitable than ever. You are not their target audience. I don't know why people can't just accept that. If they made what people on here wanted, they would go bankrupt. They are a business and they do a good job of it despite some hiccups. If you don't like their direction, play something else. Their customers love it and pay them handsomely for it.
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>>740780596
Holy fuck ahahahahahah no wonder they rushed to announce OOT's remake.
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>>740780596
>11.13
lol
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>>740780596
do you speak english? crashing is a verb that implies it is currently in progress, the rate of decline is faster than during the wiiu years.
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>>740780738
you can't get much lower than $2 though during the wiiu, it was dead
their stock is returning to 2022 levels, during the height of the switch 1's success
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>>740780609
I love Hollywood actors and nepotism!
Thanks Sony!
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You do sound like a poorfag. If you don't have enough free currency for 100 gold tickets then that's on you.
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>>740780596
People really did thought nintendo was going 3rd party during the Wii U, imagine if it just dropped below a dollar
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>>740780139
How much debt does Nintendo have again?
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>>740780839
>retard who doesnt understand how stock works
the price of a stock is meaningless, if microsoft stock is 1 dollar and it falls to 50 cent thats the same as falling from 400 to 200, what matters is how many shares exist and relative performance. We aren't done crashing because the switch 2 is not done flopping.
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>>740781023
Nintendo got extremelly fucking lucky with the Switch. They can't survive another Wii U though.
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>>740781023
Iwata really fucked them up, it was THAT bad
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>>740781178
They can? Even the Wii U was ultimately profitable for them in the long run.
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You know the macaco is seething because he keeps spamming his gay little stocks image. Which is meaningless because stock value is literally "it was revealed to me in a dream", but he keeps posting the ADR which aren't real Nintendo stocks.
What a raped and gaped little favela monkey lmao, kwab.
You know ziony is fucking DONE FOR when square and Capcom would rather reveal their huge drops on a fucking direct.
Lmao just imagine how hard ziony is seething right now because KH4 got revealed on a direct, while at the same time still getting raped by their contract with Disney haha
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>>740778618
>"This has the potential to overtake Horizon as PlayStation's most important franchise of all time"
>horizon
>important franchise
Of course he's also the one who pushed for Horizon. Why am I not surprised? God what a fucking retard.
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>>740781406
Pokémon is drying, there's no more Pokémo Go. They keep trying and looking for it.
If the Switch hasn't taken off the way it did, they would lose the console race and eventually look for other alternatives.
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>>740781082
The Switch 2 isn’t flopping except in the eyes of shareholders that see that Nintendo isn’t raking in 10s of billions of dollars off third party mtx like Sony is with Playstation.
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>>740778618
How long does Hulst have? Is he going to fuck up the PS6 gen too?
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>>740767423
It isn't just woke slop but trying to make 12+ AAA live service games in house at the same time.
All this multiplat trash soaks every last drop of money that used to go to third and second party publishing/exclusivity deals so we lose more than you could shake a stick at in pic related, Stellar Blade and ironically Helldivers or at least the next AH game.
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>>740781473
Of course he pushed for Horizon. He’s formerly from that company.
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>>740781505
Reminder that revenue does not equal profits, and those charts zony posted are dishonest because they list every 3rd party sale as fully theirs when they only get 30% at most
And that isn't even bringing up how retarded you have to be to be depending wholly on 3rd party mtx. Those Devs can abandon you on a whim and then you're left with nothing
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>>740781527
he's already fucking up the PS6
dev times will make it so the PS6 won't get games till 2030
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>>740781695
I know that. My point is that Playstation relies entirely on that to be profitable. In the eyes of shareholders they see that Nintendo isn’t doing that too therefore it’s loss income they -should- be making too.
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>>740781695
Third party will never abandon Sony
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>>740780407
This was more symbolic than anything. Sony was rotting before this point, it was just undeniable afterwards.
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>>740777706
sony is extremely lucky they got the chinese gachas and sports game to save them.
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>>740767423
Every Sony studio went from making cool games to making woke, generic movie games around the same time

Santa Monica: old God of War -> nuGod of War
Naughty Dog: Jak & Daxter -> Uncharted & Last of Us
Insomniac: Ratchet & Clank -> Spiderman
Sucker Punch: Sly Cooper -> Ghost of
Guerrilla: Killzone -> Horizon

Naughty Dog did it first and then all the other studios followed suit at the same exact time in the mid-2010s, and none of them have reversed course even though the Obama/woke/Marvel/ESG era is over.
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>>740767423
Wait I just realised but wasn't Kingdom Hearts a Playstation Exclusive series that Square Enix made for them?
What happened here?
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>>740770520
>you now remember the kim and taro interview where they shat on snoy employees
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Can a new india exclusive ps2 beat the switch releasing in India? Just asking.
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>>740782028
PS5 is a barrier. Making your game exclusive is a death sentence
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>>740782028
Square Enix has gotten absolutely fucked during the PS5 gen by being Playstation exclusive. Apparently even with the exclusive bonus, their releases on PS5 have been a loss.
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>>740778618
>Concord
>Biggest flop in Media Entertainment
>Not just Vidya but including Music, Movies and Books.
>Biggest single flop in the entire history of Entertainment
>Somehow the guy partially responsible for the choice of Sony going Live Service and for OKing Concord as a game has not been fired.

Sony execs love to light money on fire it seems.
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>>740782028
a lot of 3rd party games were playstation exclusives
until they weren't
FF7, 8,9,10,12 were all only playable on the playstation at the time
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>>740782202
PS2 released in India 20 years ago. Even had India exclusive games.
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>>740782306
No one asked Ranjeet. Fuck off.
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>>740782202
there's already millions of PS2 in india, they won't buy a new one if the used ones are 10 rupees
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>>740781493
>Pokémon is drying
kek two more weeks!!!!!!!
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>>740781610
It'd have to be Gran Turismo if we're talking from an objective "it's still going strong" standpoint (but he hates Japan)
Then there's several important series' from their early days they can't make now and perhaps even more they CAN but just sit on and do nothing with. To me it goes well beyond arrogance into full blown mental retardation.
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>>740782028
Yeah just like Persona,Final Fantasy,Yakuza and many other Japanese IPs that were exclusive to Playstation completly for free without any proper reason apart nationalism or some shit like that. Japs going multiplatform absolutely cucked Sony in a massive way to a point where all they have left are their US studios and IPs. People really dont realize how much nationalistic Japs and their defaulting to Playstation carried previous gens especially PS4.
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>>740777383
At least he realized his folly. Most snoys don't even do that.
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>>740782028
PS5 happened. I don't think you've recognized how hard Sony's turned on its own legacy with it. It's the first Playstation that reversed X and O in Japan to be like the west, because fuck 25 years of precedent on your own home turf.
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>>740778618
>Horizon
Who is buying and playing these games, I never hear a single person talk about them. They all look boring as shit with the exception of the cool setting (in concept).
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>>740768081
>/v/ thinks it's snoyggers defending the cinematic slop when it's xitter fags that don't even play the games.
I figured that was the case when most of the snoys on this board and on social media speak in ESL broken English. They treat the PS brand like a sports team which is fucking pathetic while the people who actually own PS5's are the most normalfag of normalfags who consume ball & gun slop and feed their gacha gambling addictions.
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>>740783273
Console bundles, same as Uncharted 4. Man, I wish I had saved the shelf of Uncharted 4s I saw at my local used game store some years back.
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>>740767423
>What happened?
They abandoned the core gaming audience that's what.
Ever since they hit gold with the casual masses with TLOU they've been milking the same protag and companion angle with almost every single game they've put out since then.
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>>740767423
>wolverine is just Ubisoftslop.
>Intergalactic is just trash.
wolverine is more like spiderman 2 with different skins, and it looks worse on average. intergalactic is a dumpster fire, there are rumors about low morale at ND and development hell. I hope they fire cuckman soon, as well as every retard who made development decisions during ps5 gen.
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>>740779003
What's funny is that they still bought that.
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>>740767423
>wolverine is just Ubisoftslop.
I thought it was a linear movieslop, which is on the other far side of the spectrum
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>>740767423
Like fromsoft, they fell for their own marketing.
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>>740767423
>What happened? Their games are fucking awful and the future looks even worse.
GAAS push hurt them badly, they weren't ready for Nintendo to gain third party support and got no counter. I think Nintendo will also have a Nintendo Partner direct soon and then a general direct in september so Nintendo is still holding things back.
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>>740784940
September Direct for sure. They'll announce games for the first half of 2027.
Maybe they'll repeat last year and make it have a Zelda anniversary segment with OoT and movie news
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>>740770369
Honestly seeing square shower Nintendo with support again after years of sony exclusiveness is so damn bizarre. They're not letting Nintendo go again any time soon.
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>>740767423
as long as they keep deliberately and cynically making games with ugly women in them they will continue to decline
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>>740782425
POKEMON IS DYING
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>>740785817
TWO MORE WEEKS!!!
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>>740767423
Nothing happened. They're just waiting for GTA 6 to drop so PS5 sales can go through the roof lol.
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>>740780006
Actually, they probably deliberately decided to iterate on the Switch because, as it turns out, hybrid consoles are very much in demand and this particular power boost puts them in range of the third parties doing big wowza projects for quite a while. This is important because the incredible success of the predecessor showed them that they are definitely missing out and the power boost is definitely within the range of comfortability for recent third party games. The result is Nintendo and Switch 2 gets proper third party support which will help offset the longer development times for a console that is attractive by default.
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>these threads again
2 more weeks, this time for real.
All those years since 2006 were just false prophecy.
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>>740786492
>he thinks GTA sells consoles
Rookie move, anon. Everyone who getting GTA already has their console.
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>>740767423
True enough, it´s not just about wokeism. They have consistently become more and more anti-consumer. Something that started when they ditched retro compatibility in favor of online stores and selling a player the same game over and over every single generation. That was what? 15, 20 years ago? And they´ve kept pushing because people kept accepting these unreasonable downgrades. It used to be this all in one massive media station that was well worth it´s asking price and now is a constantly online, everything is an overpriced extra service that has no games paper weight. I´m surprised people supported it for as long as they did honestly.
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>>740770369
Naughty Goy still behind in development and not even a trace of progress of their new game. Not even a teaser or anything.
Cuckman is the type of guy to delay his game for another few years because of the leaks and changes the story even if it is 70% complete to own the chuds
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>>740786941
>Rookie move, anon. Everyone who getting GTA already has their console
This
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>>740787841
Naughty Dog got in trouble earlier in the year and had to crunch because they didn’t even have a playable demo showcasing mechanics and stuff to show Sony execs. After five fucking years.
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>>740788080
no fucking way, intergalactic isn't even playable?
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>>740788308
Was news from 5 months ago that they were making everyone work 50 hours a week mandatory overtime and had been since like October.
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>>740788080
It wasn't earlier this year. The deadline to make that demo was apparently last December.
And if they didn't have shit to show this year, chances are it got heavily delayed. And if it doesn't show up again at this year's TGA to the world's collective shrug, it's likely it got cancelled.
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wolverine isn't open world retard
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>>740788626
The news came out earlier this year back in Jan/Feb.
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>>740788489
what the fuck has druckman been done?!
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>>740767423
All their games are the same third person action over the shoulder narrative movie "games"
Wolverine and laufey literally look copy pasted from each other. They look and play exactly the same
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>>740788968
Busy larping as a Hollywood writer.
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>>740767423
It has some good games this month
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>>740783273

B-U-N-D-L-E-S nigger. Ever heard of them? Sonys first party games are NOT popular. They FAKE the popularity through bundles. Herman said to Sony, "Bundle this shit everywhere to fake its popularity". I also cant find the image of all the bundles of Horizon Zero Sales put together. Sony must have scrubbed it from the internet due to embarrassment.
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>>740781025

Nintendo has Zero debt. Even Microsoft has debt. 126 BILLION DOLLARS in debt. If Microsoft has so much money, why are they borrowing so much? Microsoft s financial statements are as fake as Enron's.
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>>740767423
>t's not only because of wokeism and California
it was never that, anyone who told you that is a fucking retard
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>>740789901
>bundle = console + game for a slight saving over the full price.
>bundle costs more than console alone
>people buy bundle over the console alone
>"that means nobody wants the game"
I'm sure you can't be this much of a retard
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>>740791189
I bought a TLoU PS3 bundle because I literally couldn't find another one at that price point. To be fair, $250 for a 7 year old established console and a new game is an insane deal on paper. But no, I did not want TLoU, it was merely cost efficient. So it goes with bundles.
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>>740791386
>I did thing
>that means everyone else did too
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Can you imagine Nintendo making a Zelda LEGO game and putting it on Playstation, just to have it bomb worse than Concord? That's what happened to Horizon. That's how unpopular that piece of shit is. It got released out on another console and bombed spectacularly.
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>>740791552
I'm just saying, these companies do what they do to make these packages enticing. That includes cost efficiency, so even if you don't want the specific games you might still buy in because the price is good regardless. They still count it as a copy sold either way. That is a reasonable extrapolation of consumer behavior. Case in point, it worked on me.
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>>740792123
LEGO doesn't sell, Horizon sells. Horizon forbidden west sold millions
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>>740792449
In "bundles"
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>>740767423
>It's not only wokeism and California
No, but that is a large portion of it, Sony executives being retarded, and lazy didn't help either.
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>>740767954
Fpbp as always
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>>740767423
>What happened?
California
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I think the "thirdparty publishers hate sony" is a pretty big cope
You market to the platforms where you not yet have a strong foothold

For example take resident evil veronica, these games already sell very well on ps and pc but not so well on switch 2, thus you put the trailer in the nintendo direct to try and increase the playerbase on switch 2.

I do agree their first party output is complete ass but in my opinion northamerican developers straight up have forgotten how to make interesting games in general.
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>>740791189
Nope. They were the same price as standalone PS4 and often included another game or even 2 as well as PS Plus membership
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>>740770520
Sony just can't stop being faggots, can they.
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>>740767423
What happened was TLoU in 2013.
Executives decided that was the new blueprint for Sony games and all their studios started copying it.
The also moved their HQ to California which made all their developers hyper libtards and almost all their protagonists lesbian women.
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>>740793040
Sony is marketing only to California and California alone. The only market they have left.

There was no RE Veronica trailer in the Direct, btw.
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>>740793045
I bought a PS5 bundle shortly after launch, it came with rachet and clank and a controller. It cost about 100 more than the base console and it only saved 20
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>>740792123
>>740793045
I've never seen a more forced IP no one cares about in my 35 years of gaming.
Horizon is something special.
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>>740793183
oh my b, i thought that one was at nintendo, but the same argument can be used for kingdom hearts 4 or the dragons dogma 2 expansion
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>>740793232
I bought it on PC and console, and then the upgrade version on PC.
Maybe you just don't like games.
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>>740783356
Brazil is an entire country of Snoys.
The biggest game channel ( flow games) had the host arguing the Absolute State of Play was the best show and that GoW: Laudry was the best game premiered in the whole week.
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>>740793045

Thanks. I was looking for this.
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>>740793202
you bought the wrong bundle
should've gone with the deep discounted ones + a free game
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>>740793072
Uncharted set the stage for TLoU, but basically this.
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>>740767423
>Intergalactic is just trash.
Intergalactic is probably the only good game they have on the way and Concord was the only other good game they had but they killed it in the crib because they didn't launch it as f2p and i will NEVER not be mad
the problem is that Sony Interactive Entertainment is comprised entirely of cynical beancounters who don't care about games as art, only games as products
hence why they killed Studio Japan and why every single one of their games is thirdperson magnetic-combat action combat with shaky-handheld-camera cutscene direction
Nintendo is full of beancounters too, but at least their beancounters like videogames
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>>740793395
Hello Hermen, you're waifu a shit.
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>>740767423
Those retards over at sony should have used the 3 billion to buy japanese, south Korean, and or chinese game developers instead of bungie.
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>>740793072
TLoU as the template game did massive damage to Sony's game development and they still haven't recovered from the sheer damage of it.
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>>740793860
probably better that they didn't desu.
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>>740770704
How fucking retarded are you to not recognize such obvious bait? Fuck me the brain capacity of the average poster here doesn't exist anymore
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>>740794506
how is that bait at all obvious? poe's law bitch
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>>740794089
I thought it was uncharted 2 that was the template
>walk and talk
>big set piece
>force sections where you have to play how they want you to
>cinematic QTEs
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>>740794401
Yeah you're right. It would be a fucking travesty if sony used that money to buy a studio like shift up
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>>740767423
They are still the biggest console sellers despite everything. Which gives them this retarded arrogance. However it won't last. I suspect the next generation will be Xbox on top.
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>>740781948
You were a child when Halo killers, DMC clones and jumping animal games were the norm. Sony's western studios were always a bunch of trend-chasing slop houses
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>>740794813
Probably, but The Last of Us in particular popularized throwing massive amounts of money and resources to make it The Thing and suddently all Sony studio games are now making a The Thing of their own.
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>>740795115
That's the Switch, which Sony really wishes was not the case.
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>>740795115
>Biggest console sellers
>Sell less consoles and less games than Nintendo

Just because Sony is a bigger company overall doesn’t mean they are the biggest console seller.
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>>740795272
TLoU getting all the critical praise really did cement it as the best movie game.
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>>740795348
That's just some handheld. The only competition PlayStation still has is Xbox. Maybe it could be competition if the Switch 2 was capable of running the higher end games like GTA. But even then Nintendo is likely always going to be the kiddie/chink brand forever.
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>>740795621
Proving me right.
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>>740795472
Indeed, and it would lay the foundations for Sony's current game strategy, to their detriment.
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>>740795621
The kiddie/chink console choicd is Playstation though? Like 60-70% of Fortnite players are on Playstation for example.
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>>740795861
and Roblox
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>>740795861
>>740796010
Those are also on XBOX. Which is the PlayStation's main rival. That brown normie audience is the audience those 2 actually want. There is a reason why they spent billions on shitty western devs like Bungie and not invest it into jap/kiddie games.
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>>740796160
It doesn’t matter that they are on other systems when most players are on Playstation. Are you retarded?
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>>740767423
>wokeism and California
California has more to do with it than you think. No one gets a job without being someone’s kid, it’s the same problem big movies have. Writers used to be strung out dirt poor dishwashers a week away from moving back to podunk, now they’re all just some rich guy’s kid so you get rich kid stories, which are trash and have no depth or soul due to their origin. People with no character can’t create interesting characters. People whose life has contained no real challenge or crisis can’t make compelling narratives.
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I'm surprised no one talks about Ghost of Yotei. There was fanfare that it sold a billion units, yet not a single peep from anyone.
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>>740797190
It sold 4M copies and seemingly stopped from there. No other updates since. Definitely break even, but that's about it. It doesn't help too it was the game that even journos admitted they're growing tired on cinematic experiences.
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>>740797332
They put out a multiplayer mode
but also immediately cut support for it two months later
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>>740795621
>That's just some handheld.
seething
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>>740799076
If he says it doesn't count then it's not real. Nintendo can't hurt him that way.
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>>740798804
Seriously? It was cool for them to release a free online mode, but to shut it down is sad.
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>>740778441
Yes, go after the retarded zoomer audience I'm sure gaming will be much better.
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>>740781846
Already are.
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>>740799408
YEAH

THAT'S REAL FUCKING CRAZY HA HA

WHY WOULD SONY EVER DO THAT HA HA

HA HA HA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>740799408
You can still play it, but they just won't make anything for it after launching in march
It seems like they lost the budget for it after seeing the numbers
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>THIRD PARTY IS ABANDONING SONY
>third party multiplats:
>PS5, PC
>PS5, NS2
>PS5, NS2, PC
>PS5, XBOX, PC
>PS5, XBOX, NS2. PC
>PS5, XBOX, NS2. PC. IOS, ANDROID, URMOM
i guess
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>>740799814
Sony is supporting Kat
by making a movie
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>>740800404
https://youtu.be/umDr0mPuyQc?si=Hf2nHcmr_boWuSTo
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>>740799615
If the plan is sustainability they're going to have to make games for zoomers, retard.
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>>740800454
HAHAHAHAH
fuck sony
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>>740767423
It just shows how lacking Sony is with out third party exclusives they are nothing cause their first party line up is a shit show since they focus on Gaas and cinematic walking and talking set pieces they had something and threw it all away
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>>740800259
You can't deny Sony's biggest supporters like SE and Capcom don't want to show up in State of Plays
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>>740800926
>Capcom
Maaaaan, Onimusha's comeback really is fucked if people memory hole it like that.
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>>740767423
>What happened?
They moved everything to California in 2016.
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>>740800457
Will the games be better though? My reply was to the quality of the games, I never said anything about sustainability double retard nigger.
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>>740801093
Should've specified 'reveal new games'
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>>740767423
Move the Playstation division to California to become the Hollywood of video games, with a focus on GaaS and the modern-audience meme. Figure they'll backfill their schedule with money-hatted-Japanese-timed exclusives, particularly from SquareEnix. The future of video games as GaaS lacked foresight; modern-audience games are essentially an online meme that doesn't pay the bills; and SquareEnix can barely crank-out games anymore, and most they do make are mediocre at best.

Everything is basically garbage this generation, but even with Xbox and Nintendo having weak first-party titles, Sony's are the absolute fucking worst. Every decision their executives starting making halfway through the PS4 generation were wrong, which has gotten them to this point.
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>>740770934
>Their times exclusives bombed so bad on PS5 that Square Enix doesn't even want to reveal multiplats at Sony events afraid the barrier will affect them again

To put in perspective, FFTactics Ivalice Chronicles, a remake of a PS1 game did far better on Switch than Playstation.

The audience Playstation had 20+ years ago that let FF succeed is not the audience they have today. Square would be foolish to rely on the modern Playstation audience
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>why is sony suddenly lame and gay?
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>>740777706
Even more hilarious chasing such trends now is a more obvious deathtrap than it was for the last 20 years now that there is a law to keep live service games operating even if they are a huge flop publishers can't just pull the plug and run away with the earning they have to keep their money drain active to some degree for the whales.
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>>740780210
You memory-holed Saros and God of War: Sons of Sparta but honestly I don't even blame you.
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>>740778618
He has to be related to a dev that works on Horizon or sleeping with someone no way anyone would push a franchise this hard of a flop.
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>>740803405
He was the head of Guerilla Games. Basically the second he became an executive he just started abusing the position to artificially push his own studios games.
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>>740767423
Sony is already asking for age verification not only for social stuff, but to buy age restricted games in certain countries. Before one could even cope with
>"Oh, but I don't even use playstation's social features!"
Good luck sending a selfie or your ID to Sony now if you want a game that's rated as 18+
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Another Sony seething thread on /v/ , say it aint so.
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>>740770520
It's even more hilarious that Shuhei Yoshida was the reason Sony got Stellar Blade originally. And the moment he's gone, so are Shift Up.
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>>740804248
You forgot to remove your name.
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>>740803617
>tfw you will never astroturf your waifu the way Hermen has
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>>740804367
my name isn't help
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>>740788968
>>740789353
I'll be very eager to watch a documentary about ND's awful Druckmann years once he's been booted
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>>740804954
Me too. There's got to be loads of secrets in that particular closet.
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>>740793513
Despite Concord 2024 was actually much better than now.
Genuinely hard to understand how Concord being sandwiched between Stellar Chud and Astro Chud didn't give Sony any pause for thought, perhaps because the office in Cali thinks pattern recognition makes you Hitler.
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>>740806301
The problem is Sony is living with decisions they made back in the late 2010s and early 2020s. Even if they cancelled certain titles, developing replacements would take too long, and the financial savings likely wouldn't be enough to money-hat any decent exclusives or timed exclusives (most third parties also probably realize for this gen, it's better to release as wide as possible than take exclusivity money).
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everyone on this site keeps shitting on me but macs lowkey kinda won. imagine needing a full tower pc. its not even worth it. most games suck. as long as i can play the few games i actually like it's like who tf cares.

you can play runescape on a mac, wow on a mac. bloons tower defense 6 on a mac. like, i won.

t. considering buying an m5 macbook pro with 48gb of ram.
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>>740806895
I still have my 2013 Macbook Pro and it works just fine. If you're not one who chases graphics, Mac work just fine. But that's all Macs can do. Work just fine, which many PC enthusiast want more from.
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>>740767423
Playstation is doing better than ever. Sounds like you're just a jealous tendie. Are you mad shitendo is dying? Sounds like it.
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hi er*c
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>>740807907
>>740790357
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You know it's real bad when he breaks out the trip.
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>>740778157
>phantom blade 0 (actually this might be pc, not sure)
>stuntman
>slop of bore: flopy
oof
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>>740782238
Bigger than Sw buyout? Or bungie?

I know they lost a few hundred millions on it but there has been some BIG stinkers lately
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>>740770369
>Stellar Blade Blood Rain was the most popular game at the show
Let's not get too hasty here. 4chan spamming the game and using it as culture war fodder doesn't mean it was the most popular by any stretch of the imagination. None of my irl friends have even so much as mentioned it when we talked about the shows
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>>740781715
with the way hardware prices are now and for the forseeable future i'm not expecting the ps5 till like 2034 or 2035, theres zero chance they make something more powerful than a ps5 pro while being as relatively cheap as a base ps5 till then
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>>740770369
Wait wait wait WAIT????
KINGDOM HEARTS WAS SHOWN??? AND *NOT* ON PLAYSTATION SHOWCASE???
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>>740782268
its a bit weird for ff7 and ff8 since the original pc ports for each came out about 8m-1y after the psx versions so they really only had a year of exclusivity
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>>740768081
I made the jump to PC a month ago.
I'm fucking done with consoles, none of the exclusives are worth jack shit and PC has so much free stuff that the it pays for itself after a while. I have like 310 games on my EGS and I only paid for like ten of them and got the rest for free. I bought Arkham Knight on there last week for £3.50 and I've downloaded a bunch of cracked shit I'd never have paid for anyway.
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>>740786941
one thing that always makes me laugh about the "GTA6 is gonna sell like 500m ps5s" cope is that gta5 came out first on the 360 and ps3 and only sold an additional 2-3m consoles for each.
it took a year to reach the next gen consoles and those were already selling fine by themselves due to being brand new so its questionable how much it even helped them
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>>740810280
>ai
boooooooooo
>jimiko
yaaaaaaaaaay
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>>740792449
>LEGO doesn't sell
are you actually retarded
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>>740810868
>"GTA6 is gonna sell like 500m ps5s"
To be fair i only ever saw these claims from tendies ironic shitposting in these types of threads
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>>740811246
Are these tendies in the room with us?
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>>740782028
I've been sounding the alarms on this shit for years but Playstation historically was THE place to go for 3rd party Japanese games. MGS, FF, RE, DMC, Tekken, Persona and more were all de-facto exclusives back in the day. If you were a fan of Japanese games you bought a Playstation simple as that, but halfway through the PS4 generation this started to change. Sony basically torched their Japanese 3rd party relations after moving to California and we are starting to see the consequences.
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>>740811552
In this thread? definitely, arguing against that claim is foolishness to begin with.
Cuz i'm already one of them
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>>740767423
>Their games are fucking awful and the future looks even worse
this applies to every console
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>>740770369
>>740809778
Just to sanity check, I checked out a bunch of trailers and at least the following all have a trailer with more views then Blood Rain's highest trailer:
>oot remake
>wolverine
>code veronica
>god of war laufey
>persona 6
Most popular game my ass
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>>740812715
Don't forget Spyro
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>>740800404
>>740800454
>>740800717
I'm pretty certain the Gravity Rush movie is never going to happen. That just looks like some internal pitch that got shut down shortly after.
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>>740812838
Damn, I didn't even catch that one. Impressive. I also thought about mentioning ff7 revelation because there's clearly a big divide between the English and Japanese trailers, but fuck it, the anon is still horrendously wrong even without it.
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>>740810298
was it that soon? I didn't know there was a PC version until it was on steam
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>>740813109
To be completely fair the viewcount on that one is outrageously sus.
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>>740811246
Not exactly the same but multiple devs honestly believe the release of GTA6 will finally kickstart the generation (that we are 6 years into) and cause their games to start selling.
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>>740809309
Don't even have the balls to reply directly, tranny?
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Replying directly would imply you're worthy of a crumb of respect.
You aren't.
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>>740812915
God willing.
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>>740767423
After everything that's been going on I hope.
Sony drops out of the console business.
Nintendo drops out of the console business.
Microsoft drops out of the console business.
And all of them just have no choice but to go 3rd party like Sega.
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>>740813269
Why? All it's going to do is appeal to the audience that wants to play GTA.
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>>740813903
ERPfags?
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>>740813215
Huh yeah 11 mil views with 33k likes is really weird.
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>>740813968
>ERPfags
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>>740813403
Definitely cut they/them balls, then.
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We're not interested in what you've had done to yourself, you monkey- and you owe the world 160 million sucked dog dicks now.
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>>740814587
>2025
>Switch 1
>Screenshotting your own post
Not only a tranny but also into bestiality sex
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>>740767423
wdym? They already told you. Concord is the future of Sony. Just trust the plan.
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Stay the hell away from my dog, you cockroach.
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Remember when everyone said
>we need competition in the gaming space or you're going to get gaped
and then microsoft comitted suicide? Well this is your future now.
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>>740767423
they moved their HQ to california A FULL DECADE ago duderino
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>>740815449
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>>740814587
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>>740797190
Its another Sony sequel/next game that initially sells well off good will of first game and then sales flatline and Sony doesnt mention it again. Happened with Spider Man 2,Ragnarok,Ghost of Yotei or even AstroBot that won GOTY lol. Long term attachement rates of those first party games are dogshit and honestly PC ports selling like ass show that too.
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>>740813327
You mean like you do?
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>>740810457
>>740768081
I am going to admit I made the jump to PC a decade ago with a desktop and it was a risky decision at the time because i decided to go with Steam and forego the PC after the huge censorship controversy with Senran Kagura and the closing of Japan Studios. But that ended up being the best decision I ever made as I avoided a huge snowball effect of awful decisions with the PS5 and ended up upgrading my GPU once and eventually buying a whole new PC again 5 years ago.

It's literally night and day. Japanese Games are on the platform and modding is really fun when you get the hang of it. Plus Emulation is great.
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Ps5 has:
>infinite wealth
>astrobot
>helldivers 2
>tekken 8
>sf6
>dragons dogma 2
>baldursgate 3
>cyberpunk 77
>e33
>ffxvi
>mh wilds
But for some reason zoomers shit on this system and say things like bruh fr fr ong i wish i could go back to playing plants vs zombies and lego star wars in 20fps on the ps triple baybeee
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>>740817769
Dont forget stellar blade yotei and spiderman and dad of boy

Thing is fucking stacked. Ps5 has already surpassed the ps2, but its just not consodered cool to say that. Its hip to pretend to prefer low poly trash or brown n bloom or jarpigs rn
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>>740767423
lmao I don't give a fuck about PS
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THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF PLAY
Lol.
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>>740767423
It was the move to California, the changes didn't really fully start to take place until late in the PS4's life cycle though. They went full-retard by closing Japan studio and going for a live service push. Yes, Americans truly just fucked it up that badly. Sony's strength has never been with 1st party stuff, it's always been their 3rd party support.
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>>740817769
Negro 90% of those games are on other platforms lol. Only one thats not is AstroBot.
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>>740767423
Closed Japan Studios and fired Yoshida... The very last of the old guard from the PS1 era. Now PS are this woke monstrosity lead by a bunch of imbeciles that make me sick. I don't think PS will ever be able to recover desuu. State of Play was by far the worst of all the Summer presentations.
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>>740817890
>Thing is fucking stacked
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>>740777445
>admitting you're part of the problem with 4chan these days
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>>740777445
>Occasionally I buy a PS exclusive, but it's not the "reason" to buy one.
Most honest reply you'll ever see on /v/ or any gaming related forum for the rest of the year.
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Xbox being led by a pajeeta did better than PlayStation. Let that sink in. They've pissed away the momentum they gained from capitalizing on the Xbone disaster and gotten too cocky. Bungie was a dud purchase, Firewalk was a bomb, closing Japan studio has left them without any quirky games to gain new fans, all their failed live service and fag slop has burned through billions of dollars, and the one thing they had going for them with exclusives got thrown away for maybe a few million bucks on PC.
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>>740767423
just got an email for age verification or else I can't buy anything
I barely use it but glad I jailbroke my PS4 kek
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>>740767423
Snoys are still under the delusion that PlayStation is a Japanese company. Sony handed over their entire business to the gayest wokest American retards they could find.
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Things started going downhill when they closed Japan Studios, but Yoshida leaving marked the beginning of the end. I can't imagine the kind of person who is hyped for Wolverine, it's just an alien audience as far as I'm concerned. They don't make games for people who like videogames anymore.
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>>740819108
So they count on other platforms but not sony because youre a hypocrite, got it
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As a long time loyal Sony fan I think i'm done with them. They've been chasing live service and western slop all this time and forgot what the games that made them who they were. They even let Nintendo have Kingdom Hearts. A series that was with them from the beginning. They lost so much money on their live service woke slop for nothing. I'm even considering getting a Switch 2 over a PS5.
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it's too late to fix this
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>>740825693
>Things started going downhill when they closed Japan Studios

Sony just hates Japan. They wanted to GLOBALIZE.
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>>740767423
The United States happened.
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>>740829457
>The United States happened.

Actually, it was California. California is Liberal hell, and they're in control of Japan pretty much right about now.
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>>740829521
Nah you are all garbage. Every single one of you. No exceptions.
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>>740829738
it would've been a lot worse if Trump didn't win 2016, because he killed the TPP That would have forced American laws on Japan.

Google the TPP, that's how close you were to losing Japan to America.
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>>740829924
Qrd?
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>>740830012
don't ask AI because it will lie to you.

Barack Obama reached a deal with Japan that would have
1.) made American copyrights superior to Japanese copyrights
2.) made American law supercede Japanese law

Trump killed it as one of his first acts in office. The democrats lost, so now they're resorting to payment processors to censor the Japanese.

the payment processors are probably doing more damage then the TPP would have. it's hard to tell because it never happened.
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>>740767423
Sony is gay and crappy
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PlayStation exclusives really became the selling point in the PS3 era. PS1 the big games weren’t Sony first party games with PS2 the third party stuff was the selling point. PS3 is when stuff like Uncharted, GOW 3 became what defines PlayStation
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>>740830012
Don't look into it bro, just take my word for it
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>>740829924
>it would've been a lot worse if Trump didn't win 2016
i dont know man. starting to look like 2016 was just a cover for 2025. maybe this is the worse timeline. either way it doesnt matter because the us has made the world worse so that isnt changing.
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>>740767423
I was surprised at how bad wolverine looked.
Whole thing plays out like an uncharted game from 10+ years back.
And the washing machine god of war game is
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>>740778091
It says more about the lack of confidence JP 3rd parties have with Sony. All those timed exclusives/exclusives for big games Sony used to take for granted are not going to happen anymore.
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Maybe Sony was never good.



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