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cringe
>villain has sympathethic motives
based
>villain is evil because fuck you
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Is that all you shitposting fucks can say
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>villain has a reasonable and coherent yet inarguably evil motive
based as fuck
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>>740777130
t. jew
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I'm evil because fuck this niggerworld
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>>740777160
their schemes are not reasonable they keep tanking their own host countries
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uberbased
>villain just wants a worthy opponent so he does evil shit to goad the MC into fighting him
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The best games are always
>player was the villain all along, but he didn't even notice
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>>740776591
Where his dik
His kok, his schlondg, his peeneur
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>>740777716
your ass
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>>740776591
Mephisto was more based than Diablo and had a cooler dungeon.
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>>740777842
Ahhh
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>>740777716
He's a lizard. He has it hidden until he needs to use it.
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>>740776591
>Eat your vegetables and brush your teeth
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>>740778236
Aren't demons inspired by hooved mammals like goats
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>>740776591
Much cooler
>villains motives arent evil or sympathetic. Hes not even a villain. Hes just what youd be if you were in his shoes.
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>>740778395
No wait it was:
>Eat your vegetables, and brush after every meal!
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>>740778515
Instructions unclear, I brushed my pubes
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>>740778493
no
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>>740776591
>The villain's motives are morally right and just
>The hero just doesn't give a fuck and wants him dead
>Then the jprg swap places, adding the villain as the hero of the party and revealing the hero as the super villain
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>>740778635
Could have sworn they were
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>>740776591
I liked Fable 3s villain. Youre brother was an asshole due too necessity. I really liked that twist and it always stuck with me.
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>>740777716
His peenus-weenus?
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>>740778513
what was this about now again
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>be cosmic evil
>want to destroy all life
>succeed
>no more life to destroy
>die

What's the point?
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>>740779281
>play game
>win
>never play again
Yeah realistic
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>>740779281
there is in case of warhammer chaos gods because they already fucked up multiple universes and just go to the next on NG+
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>>740777925
Diablo 2 Mephisto was lame as fuck. Diablo 4 Mephisto is kino
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>>740776591
gigabased
>villain doesn't even care if he loses, he just wants to make you seethe
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>>740779210
Creation of the state of Israel
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>>740778513
Only teenagers that think they are deep like this shit, everybody else is sick of this garbage trope
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>>740777130
This is super kino
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>>740777130
This just means they’re eloquent
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>>740778764
they are. other dude is trolling.
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>>740779749
I wonder if anything exists with a format of
>Villain's grand scheme gets fully thwarted early on
>Continues being a threat entirely out of spite (arguably being more effective this way)
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>>740779512
diablo 4 Mephisto is only cool because everyone else is fucking retarded in that game
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>>740783838
HotS Mephisto is also cool
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>>740783887
HotS Mephisto is better than all of diablo 4
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>>740781569
That's pretty much Lex Luthor.
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Villains in games should be evil as fuck, it makes the combat more cathartic
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>Villain tried to do right but now just doesn't give a shit and is evil
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>>740779889
whats garbage about this trope?
Its easily the best form of narrative conflict.

You have the same no guilty conscience for fighting your enemies as you would against a pointless evil.
Ludonarrative dissonance is very low due to the compelling argument you have which boils down to "my side of the fence".
Leaves plenty of room for side stories.
Open to flipped sequel/DLC where you play as the enemy.
Impossible to write yourself into a corner as you can easily retcon anything that makes less sense as you progress the narrative.

Honestly It seems more childish to want a mindless and boring narrative. Wouldnt you rather theres no narrative at all and youre just playing the game? e.g. factorio, minecraft.

It just feels stupid to pretend youre a hero vs evil even if the entire story is literally just that.
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>>740776591
I am so tired of modern villains all having a tragic backstory
I don't want this grey character slop, it's fucking boring
Some people are evil just because they are fucking evil, not everyone has to have a sob story for fucks sake
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>>740784186
>evil as fuck
Like what?
If youre an american leftist tranny, a game about killing nazi's and chuds would be the most cathartic game imaginable.
If youre an apolitical australian, even if the enemy is big red fiery demons from hell you get nothing out of it.

Whats this "evil" you baseless evil mongoloids are wishing more games were about?
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>>740784543
>>740784789
shalom
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>>740784820
Again. An entire game about killing greedy baby eating jews would benefit exclusively racist 4chan dwelling bottom feeders. To much of the world, it wouldnt be a compelling narrative or even a compelling argument for mindless violent conflict for an ARPG or whatever.
There is no baseless evil you can come up with that isnt pointless. Just make more games like minecraft with no story.
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>>740776591
>Villian isn't actually evil, he's just ugly and awkward and everybody hates him
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>>740776591
>Villain is taking revenge very specifically against the protagonist and is willing to go to any length for it

It needs to be set up properly though for example in a previous entry of a series as something the player themselves does, otherwise you get Ulysses from New Vegas
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>>740781376
it just means they're utterly selfish and do whatever is necessary to further their goal, even if that means that others will suffer for it. But from their perspective, being devoid of empathy and morale, it makes absolute sense. Their are not evil for the sake of it, they are evil because good morale is restrictive to them.
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>>740784778
You can't just make a character evil because then you'll get a mass of retards thinking that character is your self insert
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Morally grey "villains" are really difficult to do, which results in most of them being kinda lame. A shitty morally grey villain is worse than a mindless one, at the least the latter doesn't waste your time.
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>>740784543
> Ludonarrative dissonance
Oh fuck off



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