I don't think it will feel like this.
It'll feel identical to that.
It'll feel like an imitation of that.
They'll definitely get rid of the fixed camera segments in favor of a quick cutscene or pan out to show you a POI.
it will feel a botw mod
>>740781503it'll feel better than that.
It will be that but better
No, it won't, OP. The sooner you accept that the easier it'll be when it comes out.
>>740781503You think Nintendo will EVER return to that tone for a Zelda game? I honestly don't think they can even if they wanted to.
guess who's going to ruin another generation
How bad will the censorship be?
>>740782614This is true. I've been angry at Age Regulations since I was 12 and now our governments are doing even more of that type of shit... They're censoring creativity because they thought 8 year old me couldn't take a few zombies in my kids game. It completely deterred me from finishing it until I was 10 but the truth is I fucking loved how scary video games were as a child, and I get very angry thinking about all the way they've been made safe and sanitized just so kids can play brain-sucking slop while being social on their discords.And now they wanna ban kids from playing until they're 16 because Fortnite has categorized "video games" as exploitative and unsafe for kids. I miss when it was only the sports jocks who mocked their peers for playing too much computer, and not the government inserting a digital lockdown. I blame China for this, and all the socialist/commie retards from my generation who are now deeply rooted in NGOs and governments.
>>740782919lots of fancy words and kids will still get a naked chick every other game that will be their sexual awakening.the real problem is that gore is rampant, gambling in vidya is everywhere with gachas and spooky vidya keeps eating shit
>>740782725
if they add full voice acting i sure hope they take into account that for a majority of the game you're listening to one voice only and that is Navi, surely they won't make her sound gay and retarded. right?
>>740781503>those texturestendies are mentally ill
>>740782725Why would a fish have breasts
>>740783346AI synthesized Gilbert Gottfried will be doing the Navi voice
whats the best way to play it today? didnt play a single nintendo game ever and thought about giving it a try, is the OG game with a n64 emulator fine?
>>740784307There’s multiple native pc ports of this game, ship of harkinian should do alright
>>740783349>he doesn't understand sovltures
>>740782725Good lord, I didn't even think of that. Another round of Ruto porn.
>>740784307If you have Switch or Switch 2, the NSO app version is great, although it's not the 1.0 US ROM, so they're slightly censored.If you play on PC or Deck, just find the latest version of Project64, install the GlideN64 plugin and make sure you render it in native res with dithering and the US ROM.Ship of Harkinian kinda sucks imo. Recompilations have more bugs than people admit, and the game is meant to play 20fps and it doesn't feel bad just because it looks choppy.
nintendo makes kiddie land amusement parks instead of actually immersive worlds
>>740784662The game is developed by a Californian studio from what I've found, so expect Zora to wear clothes.
>>740784686>playing above 20 fps is bad actuallyholy fuck being tendie should be studied in asylums
>>740782725My slimy breeding cow....
>>740781503We barely know anything.
>>740782725Speaking of ruto will we finally melt zora domain as an adult? and will we be able to see the unicorn fountain?
>>740781503Thats nice uncle, did you remember to have some sugar this morning
>>740784783Kill me.
>>740784686can ship not cap to 20? or 16/17 for the authentic PAL experience?
>>740781503Best case it’ll be an HD version of the 3ds remake worst case it’ll be BoTW 3
>attempt at videogame discussion>coomers just can't stop themselves from derailing it
>inb4 the gameplay trailer features flurry rush
>>740784235LMAO the idea of the real Gilbert Gottfried doing the voice and being crass.
>>740785097>either option
>>740784783clothing didn't help against lewding ruto the two times it already happened anon. it won't stop the third.
>>740785150Holy crap, I hate flurry rush so much. I like parrying, but they could do something better with the counterattack, something more satisfying. Mashing the button to hit a ton of times the enemy and destroy the weapon durability, while barely doing damage to silver enemies is the opposite of rewarding.
>>740785210>WAKE UP YOU FUCKING NIGGER
>>740781503I still say that the game should have forced you to actually buy the tunics with your enhanced wallets once you unlock the shops as an adult. Giving you the tunics straight up, but then forcing you to get new one by buying it if you actually lose it is a weird thing to do that feels like a forced compromise because some people didn't happen to collect skultulas. The way the game is still technically beatable without the tunics is cool.
>>740783349The textures are lower res than I'd like, but the overall composition and atmosphere that creates is insane, and it's incredible that they managed to pull that off on the N64.
>>740785150The concept of Flurry Rush is fine. It's just the implementation in both games that feels so incredibly lousy, like "Look at what I put together in my Unity game!"
Realistically the remake won’t likely do anything TOO stupid. Nintendo is smart enough to understand the prestige OoT and so will probably play it safe so don’t expect anything like the FF7 “remake”. Chances are the combat will be more like BoTW’s, some attempts to shoehorn in the lore of the later games, some half baked voice acting stuff like that. What I’m more scared off is this game doing well enough for Nintendo to try remaking Majora cause they’ll 100% fuck that up
>>740784147technically you should include mammals and every other vertebrate in the group "fish" in order for said group to be scientifically correct.which makes the statement "there are fish with breasts" true.otherwise the group "fish" is not a valid group and has little meaning.this justifies fish having breasts
>>740785491Nobody lewds Lulu and she got next to nothing with the remaster. Lay off the copium.
>>740784235THE HAPPY MASK SALESMANRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPED AND KILLED A GIRL IN 1990
>>740785925Nobody lewds Lulu because she's a non-character. her little shits are more important than her.Meanwhile Ruto is one restraining order away from mounting Link
>>740782614>>740781503They literally chose a gritty, textured style for the remake. It's obvious they're aiming for an appropriate tone for the game. Light and shadow are very important in Oot, and im convinced dead hand will look absolutely horrifying in the remake.
>>740785495>>740785683The major issue is that it can't be disable, has no cooldown, is far too easy to trigger, and freezes time.If it were a special ability restricted to some sort of resource (I.E. a specific weapon or stamina) and could be activated whenever, making it possible for the player to fuck up the timing, it would be okay. I mean it's still a boring skill, but at least it would be optional and require a second brain cell to utilize.Instead, I have to fucking endure this dumbass shit every single fucking time I just want to fight an enemy in real-time. Between that and the retarded ass bullet time for bows, this game can go fuck itself to death. Some of if not the worst combat design in the subgenre of medieval-fantasy action-adventure.Not to mention the enemy design/AI is retarded, so every single fucking encounter is just Link hitting a punching bag for as long as his arsenal of toothpicks and unlimited, explosive anal beads allow him to.Do the faggots who make these games even play them? Holy Christ just fuck my shit up famalam.
>>740785871>What I’m more scared off is this game doing well enough for Nintendo to try remaking Majora cause they’ll 100% fuck that upagreedthey already fucked it up once with the 3ds changes
>>740784235>BE CAREFUL AROUND THE GERUDO WOMEN LINK, THEY'VE ALL GOT SAND UP THEIR CUNTS
>>740782725Thank you for reminding me about this fish. I was assuming ocarina of time's remastered version will be gay and way less grim, but if the fishwife returns it's worth playing again. Hopefully they don't fuck up the dead hand's terror from the original.
>>740784783>from what ive heardIncredible source. Guess we'd better start doomposting
>>740781503let that image run through a disney filter 3 times and then add a vignette filter and you get what the game is gonna look like
>>740785871>Realistically the remake won’t likely do anything TOO stupid.>BotW font for the title>Not even using OoT's Master Sword on the title>Link already has the Triforce mark before the Triforce even broke apart>Doesn't even follow OoT's art style in favor of hiring that manIt's already done TOO stupid shit and frankly? You're fucking dumb.
>>740784836>playing above 20 fps is bad actuallyI legitimatley have to clarify why this makes sense. 20FPS isn't good in itself, but the original version of OoT has amazing animation that was made, similar to how anime is (because Japs are good at this), to look really bloody good at the frame rate it happened to be, even if it could have been higher.So when you increase the framerate and interpolate it, it is kind of like interpolating a lower FPS movie to higher FPS, it artificially smooths out motion that was intended to be displayed in a particular way yes, I'm well aware that it's the graphics transformation data, and not the pixels, that are being interpolated.Now, to counter people's objections, yes, western FPS use frame interpolation to smooth their animations to 60+ FPS. But unlike OoT, they have western slop animation that isn't of the same quality of OoT's when it is displayed at its native framerate.
>>740784783Nintendo is still the one calling the shots and considering how autistic they are with “brand identity” don’t expect them to allow something like the Zoe’s suddenly wearing pants. Just don’t expect any fat fish tits either or for god’s strongest Rutofag to try and hijack the plot for her
>>740783346They'll get one of the english voice actors of Paimon from Genshin to be Navi instead of the one doing the "Hello!" "Listen!" lines.
>>740786083>Meanwhile Ruto is one restraining order away from mounting LinkAnd she still gets jack shit.
>>740781503It's modern Nintendo. You know it's going to be shit.
Watch as they somehow find a way to shove the koroks into Ocarina of Time
Titty flippers are for cowards.
>>740781503Modern game devs could never replicate this art direction, modern art direction is very safe and homogenized. They probably wouldnt even know how to do this anymore
>>740784235Were he still alive, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to him playing some character for the English dub. However I can't think of any one in particular who'd be enough a sleezeball for him to play. Tingle is far too jolly and I can only think of WW characters who are animated enough for his signature voice to work for.
>>740786494She's getting censored to hell and back even more than she did in the remaster. To suggest anything else is pure copium or blatant shilling on their part.
>>740786259you saw a 20 second clip retard chill out
>>740786494need swimmer bod ruto again
>>740785871>Realistically the remake won’t likely do anything TOO stupidthey’re already blatantly trying to make the game more like BoTW
>>740785871>so don’t expect anything like the FF7 “remake”I'd fully expect them to do something like have this game be the 'lost' timeline Link gets sent back to after the original game where he's supposed to live out his childhood.
>>740786580The clip gives every indication that they're sending this to be made by tards. They chose to introduce the game like this, and people are judging it appropriately.
>>740781503Nothing will really make you feel like a kid again. You need to move on.
>>740782725They 110% staple a dress on her, covering her head to toe.
>>740782725They're removing her tits 100% to align with BOTW/TOTK
>>740786580Yeah and that shows me all I need to know that Nintendo isn't remaking the game in good faith if they can't even get the fucking title right. They even had the correct Master Sword in the title with the 3DS remaster. There is literally no fucking excuse you retarded tendie.
>>740786780I'm more worried about them giving ruto the chimp anatomy of the BOTW zoras
>>740786712I know being reactionary generates le hecking engagement but you haven't even seen gameplay. Calm down
>>740786495>They probably wouldnt even know how to do this anymoreIt's the only game that ever even pulled that off. MM immediately had crappier rushed art direction that badly resuded OoT's assets, and nothing else has managed to look moody in the particular 'space emphasizing' way that OoT did.
>>740786820>>740786915
>>740786726OoT just fundamentally feels amazing regardless of whether you are a kid. There's nothing to move to that achieves the same thing.
>>740786915The gameplay in theory is just going to be OoT again. Why do you chimps act like you've never seen OoT in fucking motion before? If anything, it's just going to look even worse which you'll deny anyway because all you do is consume this slop like a good little hog.
>>740786259>Link already has the Triforce mark before the Triforce even broke apartBro doesn't even know the lore.
>>740781503uhh.. ship to harkinan.. if you know how to use github and compile your own rom you get the undisputed goat oot version.. dumb /v/ plebs..
>>740786937MM has its moments but yeah ive never seen anything else like future hyrule town in the og
I they're smart, they'll let you toggle between fixed and free cameras for these scenes.I feel like they're just going to make everything bland and generic though. No one respects the art of the fixed camera anymore.
>>740787075>The gameplay in theory is just going to be OoT againHow do you know that?
>>740786996See >>740787075>>740787083That's the whole mark, not the Triforce of Courage mark. Nice try but you're not getting a gotcha from me regarding Zelda lore no matter how you try and reword it. Link should not have the Triforce of Courage mark on his hand in the trailer if he doesn't even have it yet.
>>740787181Call me crazy but I may have played it before.
>>740786114Bullet time for bows only activates when you're in the air. It's unwieldy but it's somewhat like you requested in that it's slowdown you are in full control of.You're right on the money about the flaws with BotW style combat though. Damage has to come from an actual weapon to scale and all of your weapons are disposable. Throw that on top of the fact that every tier seems to basically double enemy HP. Top tier Bokoblins have 720 health, more than the 600 of a Stone Talus like you could fight on the Great Plateau, and over 50x Bokoblins' original 13 HP.For reference, branches deal 2 damage, so it takes 7 shots to kill the weakest Bokoblin with the weakest weapon you get. Meanwhile, the highest raw damage per hit you can get is 78 with a savage Lynel crusher, and even though you'll likely be fighting silver Bokoblins long before you have an endless supply of those, they'll still take more hits to kill that top tier Bokoblin than branches do bottom tier ones.
>>740783349You barely notice on an old TV. It's only really a problem now (but that's what high res texture packs are for).I don't think I even knew those backgrounds were pre-rendered at the time. The effect was seamless.
>>740787281You played the original, not the Switch 2 remake.
>>740781672spbp
Im so hyped to see ocarinafags see their favorite game’s discussion get corrupted by the remake and ultimately replaced by it
>>740787352And?
>>740787196Still doesn't make sense. That is art from Zelda 1.... Which is a sequel to OoT.The original series wentOoT -> (Majora's Mask) -> ALttP -> (LA) -> Zelda 1 -> Zelda 2And then they made Wind Waker. In a sense OoT was the first "culmination" game in the franchise.
>>740787083LoZ/AoL Link had that mark in AoL because a spell cast by the great king, the most recent wielder of the whole Triforce at the time, deemed that Link to be the worthy successor. It wasn't something from birth or related to having the Triforce already.
>>740782919>bad parents fail to keep their kids away from ultra violent games and online grooming dens>now it's the government's job to step in and make everything illegalI hate this so much. Turn off the fucking internet in your home. Read the age ratings on the box. This is not hard.>but I wont be a cool parent if I don't let them do whatever they want ;__;Too fucking bad.
>>740787381>>740787387Avatarfagging is against the rules toxotanny.
>>740787075>The gameplay in theory is just going to be OoT againI doubt that.Yes, Star Fox is basically the same game, but Star Fox 64's gameplay (as far as rail shooters go), is top-notch, and the issues are more about input lag, low resolution that makes it hard to see things, unstable frame rates, etc.Ocarina of Time doesn't have high-quality gameplay. The camera, for example, is completely outdated, and Nintendo will certainly modernize that. And in a game with so much exploration and puzzle-solving, the way you move the camera significantly affects the gameplay as a whole.The combat will definitely be improved, because the action in OOT is a 3/10 at best.They'll also need to overhaul many of the game's systems. It's inconceivable that they'd keep the Skulltulas as they are in the original game, since they serve literally NO purpose, despite being everywhere. They'll have to create a new function for them and reward the player accordingly.In short, Starfox 64 can afford to be the same game in 2026, because it's a quality video game. Ocarina of Time can't afford to do the same...
>>740787196You're going off information from a 5 second teaser trailer and doomposting about it.You know nothing about this remake.
>>740787487>That is art from Zelda 1That's Zelda 2, dumbass.
>>740787418How do you know the gameplay will be the exact same?
>>740781503I was hoping for the oot remake and now that it’s confirmed real I’m cautiously optimistic. Still want it but I’m not hovering a buy button for a switch 2 and oot. Also as ugly as it appears to be, I’ll take it as a sign they’re smart enough to not b*tw it at least.
>>740787206>Ocarina of Time is not a really good game.It is still a really good game. Play through it, then play through WW, TP and BotW and unless you're a gameplayfag you're probably not even going to say BotW is better.I know plenty who played OoT and TP only recently thanks the HD port and NSO versions of OoT, and they almost always end up saying it was better than BotW, and that even though it's close, OoT wins out against TP because it has such a purity to it.
>>740787526Yeah don't believe my lying eyes apparently. I won't know nothing until the Switch tendies tell me what to think.>>740787516We'll see.
>>740787506good job you mongoloid
>>740787487Yeah but it was the first game to come out. So it was always there.
>>740781654Except OP is no longer a child, but a bitter old unc.
>>740787585Because it's Ocarina of Time.
>>740787418It might not be the same, anonThat's the point
>>740787516OoT's gameplay is just as good as Star Fox 64's.Calling the combat "3/10" in a franchise containing stinkers like BOTW where the game barely cares whether you're hitting an enemy or their shield is insanity.
>>740787736the gameplay of OoT fucking sucks
>>740787736Wow, I guess Metroid on NES and Zero Mission on GBA play exactly the same.
>>740787813Kinda weird that you're shilling a game that you think fucking sucks then.
When was the last time Nintendo didn't do a "1 to 1" remake?
>>740787516The camera isn't part of the gameplay.If they change combat and puzzle mechanics (which they may well do), then they're changing the gameplay.>the camera changes the gameplay as a wholeNot really. You could always point it wherever you wanted. OOT isn't Resident Evil. You always had all kinds of conveniences like lock-on and first person aiming. You could always tap Z to lock the camera directly behind you.I swear people are just bad at playing this game, and think it has some kind of impossible arcane design. The bow and bomb throwing controls are infinitely less of a hassle than Fromsoft games.
>>740787828Yeah essentially. You run, you jump, you shoot, you get upgrades, you explore, etc. Was that your big gotcha? Try again.
>>740787813You are wrong. Some bits of the puzzle and enemy design suck. The gameplay as a whole and the ideas it presents are stellar. People were so sure the next Zelda would be great for 10 years because of how much potential OoT's mechanics held, Nintendo failed to explore those mechanics and blamed it on "da formula".
>>740787849>>740787901it sucks, TotK is the peak of the series and the remake will have the same gameplay
>>740781503Bros give me your honest opinion. I never played OoT but watched my friend play it really briefly as a kid. It looked cool as fuck back then. I always wanted to play it just because it's the game everyone talks about and it feels like a part of gaming history. It has aura as the kids these days say. But if I play it as an adult will I actually enjoy it or will it just kill the hype and magic?
>>740787695Yes, but OoT is specifically meant to be an "origin story" of the Triforce and Ganon. The whole story arc apart from its amazing examination of "time" is about the Zelda lore and how the Triforce came to become a constant within incarnations of Link, Zelda and Ganon, and we get the whole development of that, from Ganondorf just being "a thief" who searches for the Triforce, how that splits it apart and how it then choses the 3 of them, so that they will reappear in any OoT adjacent sequel. In OoT Zelda uses her wish with the Triforce to wish Link out of her future, and back to his past, and then...Actually you know, what the fuck, I don't think it makes that much sense, but at least OoT has Link just being a boy at first, and then it's implied that it's his involvement that makes him the chosen one who gets to have the triforce of courage only. And then later it's completed somehow. But given what a reveal it is, it makes no sense to show it glowing while he's sleeping in the forest, unless they're doing a FFVIIR style faux sequel that actually takes place after the end of the original game, after Link was whisked back to his own time.
>>740783346They will hire the cheapest americans they can find to do terrible british accents.
>>740787897You know the difference, you wormy motherfucker.
>>740788084The Child Link section is a bit weak, but adult link is kino.
Would you hire this man (AI)?
I do think remixing some of the puzzles for the remake would be prudent. We've come a long way from "look up in first person and shoot the eye on the ceiling". Puzzles like that were literally just there to train people to think three dimensionally. We're way past that.
>>740788194when can he start
>>740781719The most correct poster
>>740788084Just go fucking play it and stop asking people to hold your hand.
>>740788084Just play the game, and stop letting people muddy your expectations. The more over-hyped you are on anything, the more you're going to be like "was that it?"
>>740788198That I agree with. OoT was at its highest when the puzzles were actual puzzles. The fact that the games afterward consistently refused to make difficult puzzles was because of a misunderstanding of OoT's design, I feel.
>>740788159What? More detailed graphics and the ability to grab ledges and crouch? They didn't change it much and you know it you disingenuous little cock sucker.
>>740788084I recently saw someone stream it who is almost 40 and he loved it. But don't expect you to get the "magic" just by walking around and experiencing every moment in it. Early on it will give you a sense of wonder through its musicality and not knowing what comes later. In the middle it can feel a bit like a chore, when the dungeons require more manual thinking than any modern game would offer. But it still isn't hard. It's a really easy game and if you find it difficult, you're actually bad at games imo. It's more the contemplative pacing of the game that you need to muster, and then that pays off.You haven't experienced the game if you haven't finished it. It's like Mass Effect 1 where all its best stuff happens near the end, and all the early stuff is context, buildup, and occasionally dramatic but not enough to convince you it's a masterpiece until you look back at the game as a whole.
>>740787506Spamming every single day is also against the rules, hence why you have to sit in time out all the time, lonely autist
there should be a monthly ban for all the waifufags , it is pure suffering haveing you in every fucking thread.go to /tv/ with your garbage where you belong.
>>740788390Cut them some slack. They're excited to play their waifu's game for the first time.
There WILL be bokoblins in this game and you WILL like it
>>740783346Voice acting has definitelly took a lot of enjoyment from playing nintendo games. Is like they half ass it but it feels weird and unnatural.I wanted to shut up Pauline, I hated Zelda's voice too, and I didn't buy SM Wonder because of the flower.
>>740788390The same people are the ones spamming about stellar blade and GoW. Its all the rampant gachachinks and /pol/tards
>>740788390I don't see the problem. People posted girls?
>>740788465No. Waifu fags are easy to tell apart as people who genuinely haven't played the new game they're posting fan art for, they just adhere to the fan art and NSFW community, and love characters without knowing what their story is. It's like Athenafags in the Ace Attorney threads or Ashleyfags in Another Code Remake threads. If they knew Athena they would find her charmless enough that she becomes ungoonable, and if they knew the story of Another Code they wouldn't be able to lewd Ashley because of empathy.You can always tell when a gooner is just a gooner.
>>740782725My wife
they should really consider removing navi entirely from this. she ruined the 3ds one by never shutting up and never having anything useful to say even when you activated her
>>740788523I can't believe Nintendo is beginning to follow the exact steps Sega took to the grave
>>740788661>hints>ok the final bossYeah, I'm fine with that.
>>740781503Post your worse fears>Bad voice acting>Extra tutorials>Weapon degradation
>>740788747My worst fear is that it existed in the first place.
>>740788747Linkle
>>740788661EhNahI'd agree with you, but I've seen some utter mouthbreathers struggle to play this game, getting filtered by shit like not knowing how to get Darunia to talk to you, that Navi actually would help if they would pay attention for like 10 seconds, so unless there's a quest marker (goddamn it you know there is one), she needs to stay.
>>74078874Watch out anon you're going to get the canned response>BUT THERES ALREADY WEAPON DEGRADATION WHAT ABOUT THE GIANT'S KNIFE HUH????They still won't acknowledge that "weapon degradation" in the sense of all weapons being able to break as a mechanic and "weapon degradation" as in one weapon that specifically decays to prompt you to finish the questline to acquire the real one are not the same.
>>740788747>>Extra tutorialsYou fucking KNOW you aren't leaving Kokiri Forest to do the Deku Tree for at least 6 hours
>>740788706I was going to say sega might come back but they’re also going full in on AI.The day you see official sonic media made with AI is probably when I depart from gaming forever.We have been replaced and are no longer the audience. Normies don’t give a fuck, they just want flashing lights in front of their eyes
>>740788821Why would you fear a non-canonical side character who wasn't even there at the launch of the only game she's in?
>>740782725I always thought Ruto was a gross fish monster and giving a monster boobs doesn't make it sexy, God bless
>>740788867The irony about this counter argument is that the Giant's Knife was literally a con item in the game that Biggoron warns you about.
>>740788084The idea that it's a game that you "could only really appreciate fully as a kid" is complete bullshit. If you played it when it came out as a child chances are you'd love it, but it's not a game that's fundamentally childish or lacking appeal to adults, though that (the differences in how adults and children regard the world) is an actual core theme of the game. The game is cool as fuck. It's not 'perfect', but it is amazing at doing the things it does well and is capable of entrancing you in a way that possibly noting else will.>>740788183>The Child Link section is a bit weakThe child Link part doesn't suck. It has weak parts but it's compelling in its own right and does particular things that the future portion doesn't emphasis. But the game does get better as you progress through it and gain more freedom and reaches its apex around half way through.
>>740788976We found him, the gaylord.
>>740788843>normalfags internalize "Navi talks too much and is annoying" from jokes made by actual players>normalfags decide to solve this by treating her like a windows popup and pressing whatever they have to to shut her up ASAP without reading a single word if they can help it>normalfags miss out on obvious hints because they're delivered by the "bad character">normalfags think this is a fault with "Zelda companions" and start shitting their pants over stuff like Midna tooIt's all so tiresome. Removing Navi would embolden these fucks so I hope they don't.
>>740788991Yeah, as a kid, I identified as kid Link and liked playing those parts.Now I maybe have a slightly higher appreciation for the message of "one day you're going to be big, and all of the cosy places you used to know are going to be dead and filled with zombies"
>>740788194The ToT is cool because it's this solid object that isn't affected by the changes occurring around it and remains this constantly integral and pristine bastion.
ywn be 7 years old again
>>740788523It's because Nintendo is most closely compared to Activision in terms of studio and budgeting, where they do make expensive products but never to a "Sony" or "EA" level. They minn max their production costs and especially voice acting is cut to its bare minimum requirements. This is why Pauline is the only dubbed character in DK Bananza so they voiced all characters but only Pauline's voice got to be re-recorded for localization, and it's why they found a replacement for Charles Martinet despite Mario Games only having a couple of lines per game. They also went with "Cup of Tea Productions" which is an LA booth only ran by 4 people, and is the Fast Food of the VA scene, typically used for anime game dubs, and tend to find the usual scene actors like Sam Riegels or Liam OBrien, or just someone from Nintendo Treehouse, to do the VA coaching, so what you get is VA Slop
>>740787763I disagree.Star Fox 64, aside from the issues with the crappy hardware it was released on, is a pretty solid arcade shooter. That genre of games was quite advanced in 1997.OOT, on the other hand, was released at a time when people weren't quite sure what to do with 3D adventure games. This is quite evident in the game's various limitations.The PC ports of both games make it clear, at least to me, that Star Fox's gameplay hasn't aged a bit, while Ocarina's is pretty bad.>>740787895Yes, the camera is part of the gameplay, especially when it's directly linked to the character's movement.An extreme example is a first-person shooter, where you aim at enemies by literally controlling the game's camera.In games like BOTW, manipulating the camera is an integral part of your movement. Early in that game, there's a section where you need to build a bridge by cutting down a tree, and the way 99% of players will correctly align Link with the tree is by using the camera.A modern camera in Ocarina of Time would significantly change the way you play the game.
>>740789146I mean, it's a stone cathedral, and the time skip is seven years.
>>740789146>The cunny templeWhat did they mean?
>>740789204>"Sony" or "EA" levelThe fuck have either of them made that compare to the prestige Nintendo have achieved?
>>740789253Right, but his point is still the same. Imagine how they’ll do it in the remake.>ToT looks like your boy standard ruined building complete with RE2 desaturation/fog because it’s le dystopia
>>740789092you're a gaylord, Adam and Eve not Adam and Glugglug
>>740789234>A modern camera in Ocarina of Time would significantly change the way you play the game.It really wouldn't. Wind Waker already had a freely controlling analogue camera, and it changed all of nothing. >you can tap the stick to look right, instead of moving right, and tapping the Z buttonThis is not a revolution. It's mild convenience.
>>740788991>The child Link part doesn't suck. It has weak partsthat's why i said a "bit weak".
>>740789234>OOT, on the other hand, was released at a time when people weren't quite sure what to do with 3D adventure games. This is quite evident in the game's various limitations.And yet the basics of how it plays remain crystal clear and functioned as the basis for how all 3D Zelda gameplay was designed for 10+ years. It works fine, OoT with a better camera and no more of the puzzles that are just "can you look around 3D space and identify what you need to touch/hit/shoot" is still OoT.
>>740788281>getting pissy because an anon asked for a recommendationkwab
>>740789234>while Ocarina's is pretty bad.The core of the gameplay is honestly amazing, and in many ways superior to most modern games, but it drops the ball in making most of the dungeons too basic and enemies too passive and dumb for the sophistication of its mechanics to matter. It's an incredible game, that could have been better than it was, and the remake should have been the thing that properly realized this, but it looks to unfortunately be outsourced bullshit.
>>740789346Yes, I was deliberately doing that as a joke
>>740789107Okay enjoy yourHEY LISTENHEYHEADS UP*navi button*>you should remember to take breaks>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO LINK!>hey remember saria? you can talk to her with the ocarina!!
>>740788949Modern audiences
>>740789543ThisIf you want to call the combat weak, I think that's both accurate and missing the point.Enemy design could largely be improved, but short of things like the Lizalfos and Stalfos, combat isn't really something the game is central around (and I think Lizalfos and Stalfos are fine anyways).Most of the enemies aren't here to be a whole thing, they're to be a hazard and a distraction. There's a reason there's one button primarily used for fighting, and three buttons that see most of their use in not-fighting, with occasional applications in fighting.
>>740789802At the same time I think OoT has possibly the strongest grasp on what your items should be able to contribute to combat out of all the 3D games. It's similar in this regard to the 2D games even with how many items will at least have some application in stunning enemies or throwing out a hitbox at a time and place you normally can't. Often it'll be a slightly unique interaction too, like the megaton hammer flipping fire slugs.
>>740789107In actuality Navi is very hands-off compared to the level of hand holding people are accustomed to in everything now. You play any AAA game now, and it's pretty much going to be hours of "focus, M" walk and talk.>woah, those are enemies up ahead. You might want to fight themYeah, thanks. I wouldn't have guessed.>by the way, we marked everything in yellow, so you don't get lost
this is nintendos chance to get the remaining adult men who are not manchilds to buy their console yet i think they will still fucked it up. just the teaser looked half assed. and they will for sure make the game for toddlers and remove/alter anything scary
>>740789204Thanks for the explanation, I do think another factor is the script, you can put anything to text but some stuff just sounds unnatural when you say it out loud.
>>740789664>3 callouts before you press the Navi buttonWhen does this happen? The callout only happens when the button appears, doesn't it? Are you repeatedly flipping your targeting between enemies without killing them just to try and provoke more annoying voice clips?
>>740789543Something I always felt strongly about "Zelda formula" games is that they don't live up to the potential of their own mechanics, but the diversity of mechanics is what makes them great games.I mean it in the sense that Nintendo consistently struggled to build out these mechanics progressively to the campaigns while justifying further use as new shiny item mechanics replace and thus fail to escalate prior ones, but this way of developing a game is so fundamentally different to how "you're supposed to make games" like 90% of the AAA slop we get, and this is precisely why Zelda games was like a safe haven to me, while I was getting GTA IV in 2008, while I played Skyrim in 2011, and while I played The Last of Us in 2023 because as good as those games are, they're very... Standard and very similar to other games in the same genres mechanically. And Zelda games are just Zelda.This is also why BotW depresses me, because it's like, we never got to truly see a Zelda Formula game (and it doesn't have to be Zelda or even Nintendo) done modernistically and to perfection. You can say a lot about BotW but it is not a "modernization" of the Zelda way of developing games. The whole point of this way of making a game is that you unlock mechanics progressively, a bit like in Metroidvania, but where it ebbs and flows within some form of an Open World and not literally Dark Souls esque labyrinthine level design. The reason Zelda is distinct from Castlevania is because Zelda is the compromise between a traditional action/exploration game and a Metroidvania. It has progressive mechanics that somehow need to fit into an open space, and then use isolated dungeons like "Game Levels" but where those levels are completely emergent to the game world, and not Mario portals.That's a lot of ifs and buts just to shield myself against a barrage of contractions who think Zelda Formula isn't something special to video games.
>>740787506lol retard
i trust them to make a good gamethe only bad 3d zelda game was WW and skyward sword before the switch versioni have almost full confidence this remake is going to be amazing
>>740781503Not only will it feel like that it’ll look like that and say that
>>740790000I played FFXVI, and there were actual pop-ups telling me I can get loot from enemies and use money to buy things. That's where we are now.
>>740783242This bitch is 100% going to get censored
>>740790180Every Zelda should have a B campaign that remixes puzzles and cranks up enemy difficulty.I don't know why this never really took off as a thing. They toyed with the idea in Zelda 1, and then Master Quest. Wind Waker just gives you cosmetic changes.
>>740781503they will absolutely need a different art style to convey and modernize that rough dark fantasy look from the OG. any newer zelda looks like a cartoon, but if they do choose such a bold approach and make the remake look closer to a fromsoft game they'll alienate modern fans, just like wind waker made oldfags seethe. it's a pretty shit place to be for a game designer.
>>740789963I think Wind Waker did it best by far. There's the same amount of extra caves and off-site areas to the main 3 hub islands you can reach once you have specific items, is needed for the Triforce Quest to top off all dungeons when you have all items, and every item serves a specific function in combat, like abilities would in a turn baser RPG. Boomerang is always a guaranteed hit but not a guaranteed damage, but it will stun larger enemies. Hookshot doesn't generally stun but it can stagger or pull them over to you, especially flying enemies. Grapple Hook steals the unique item each enemy type carries. Skull Necklaces from Moblins and Joy Pendants from Bokoblins. Hammer can AOE stun enemies and take out frozen ones. Leaf can also knock down flying enemies or push people back if they're out on sea and you just want them to fall in.WW solved the issue of providing a dynamic to every item mechanic, and then still giving them extra usage outside. It's the only Zelda where I felt that early items never became fully obsolete.
Unless they try to BotW it somehow it should be pretty hard to fuck up.
>>740789371Glugglug is really hot though. Eve can have the snake
>>740788147>In OoT Zelda uses her wish with the Triforce to wish Link out of her future, and back to his past, and then...What? That never happens, Zelda doesn't get the full Triforce, nor does an individual part of the Triforce grant a wish. Zelda used her powers as the seventh Sage (presumably the Sage of Time) with the Ocarina of Time to create the Child Timeline and send Link there.
Remember, official Zelda canon is that Link dies in Ocarina of Time and then the original games take place.
>>740789574ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN
>>740788194Man this hire!
>>740781503I agree, it's going to be so awesome.
>>740791219you have to really give credit to ai slop managing to make the most stylistically clashing shit possible. even experts cant easily replicate this level of dogshit
>>740788194yuckSpeaking of the temple of time though I did always find it strange how Ganandorf fucked over most fo castle time and hyrule castle but left this area completely undisturbed.
I have "developers had shit technology but Im nostalgic for it" fatigue
>>740790430What makes you think that?
>>740781503good. i hope its nothing like this slow, empty slop.
stop destroying my childhood
>>740787763You're retarded, hitting an enemy's shield deflects your attack, hitting it repeatedly a few consecutive times knocks their shield away.
>>740786937I completely lost motivation to play after Link got transformed into an unwilling adult with child mind,he literally loses years of his life & the plot just goes "sorry elf you needed to be bigger to save the world"
>>740791402It was probably part of the trap to lure Zelda out of hiding. Also, while the interior of the building remains the same, the exterior of the building is partially affected by Ganon's takeover and the devastation of Castle Town.
>>740792324Calm down. Nothing has been "destroyed" it's all still there. Just don't give Nintendo any money for the remake and you will have said your bit.
>>740790180So sick of collecting the three macguffins, if you're not then you're brain damaged.
>>740792474>implying boycotting works
>>740791086You can actually tell the moment the timeline changes, when stepping into the boss room for the first time with Ganon you get a full heal, your hearts appear on screen. Some kind of triforce wish was made to preserve his life. I suspect a bootstrap paradox, the series is good for those now.
>>740785884Based fellow taxonomy chad but of course the slobbering retards here ignore sensible posts.
>>740792031He's a retard who didn't play Botw.
>>740792680But it does work? You keep your money and they get one less sale. Once again NOTHING is lost or destroyed by modern slop existing. The original is still there waiting to be played. No point in raising your blood pressure over it.
Ruto is absolutely being censored with clothing, if you have never seen her 3DS model from up close you need to check it out, they gave her a puffy pussy and budding tits all deliciously defined
>>740792795That's not a Triforce wish, that's just Link benefiting from the Triforce resonating and basically powering up.
>>740792483The point is the journey. You're like those people complaining that all you get in Mario games is "more stars".
>>740792795>>740793046isn't the first triforce warriors about that? there's some magic girl that falls in love with link and revives him during ganon's fight
>>740781503Grok, generate a realistic rendition of this gifI hope they keep the fixed camera angle here, makes the place feel unique
Ayy lmao
>>740792474It's your money vs an endless army of tendies that see the Nintendo logo and immediately get turned on like an MK Ultra victim to buy buy buy
>>740793773Who gives a fuck? That's their problem. Stop caring what other people do and think and you will be a lot happier.
>>740793873It's hard to stop caring when they're raping everything I care about right in front of me brother you don't seem to understand that
>>740793557The Triforce of Cancer
>>740793921Again. How are they raping it? You are implying when this remake comes out, you can no longer plug in an N64 and play Ocarina of Time? Or better yet play Ship of Harkinian and play a modded idealistic version on your PC. Nintendo can't take that away from you. So it shouldn't worry you. Just don't buy it and move on.It sounds like your dichotomous thinking could be making you unnecessarily miserable for no reason. So maybe you are right, maybe I don't understand.
>>740789963I've been playing Harkinian lately, and easily one of the most interesting things is how many child items have great applications as an adult and vice versa.Adult items as child isn't maybe that interesting since you can go most of those places anyways, but shit like the boomerang interacting with Dark Link or gerudo warriors is interesting
>>740793050>The point is the journey. You're like those people complaining that all you get in Mario games is "more stars".
>>740793209Hyrule Warriors is non-canon to the rest of the series and plays very fast and loose with what it personally has.
>>740785871BOTW with a bunch of good dungeons sounds awesome. Sign me up!
>>740782725Idk, what gacha are the kids playing nowadays?
N64 fog did a lot for the atmosphere but it was also a tool for pop in moments.
There's no way they have a whole remake of OoT ready this soon after TotK if its not just a glorified mod of those games.
>>740793050>The point is the journey.SHUT THE FUCK UP. No, it's not when you personally want a formulaic game, you don't a FUCK about journey. Shut your fucking mouth.
>>740794996>port 3DS version>have your intern who /v/ told you to hire because of his unreal demo ai generate new assets
>>740794996>this soon after TOTKhow do we tell him
I've already accepted that>the remake's Hyrule castle town and temple will somehow look worse than the blurry, prerendered backgrounds>there will be anti-soul gas everywhere>Ruto will be ruined, somehow this one hurts because she was my first vidya crush as a kid>the redead will be ruined>dead hand will be ruined>the skulltula house will be ruined>basically anything that's too "dark" will be sanitizedIt is what it is
>>740794996I mean, it took 5 years to develop BOTW.
>>740795158Ocarina of Time is about the.journey, BotW is about the journey.HOW IT ENDS is part of that JOURNEY, and it fucking sucks in BotW.
>>740781503Nintendo will hire that man, don't you worry
>>740795369With the game's style seeming to dick-ride Twilight Princess I don't think any of this will be true
>>740795273Look at how much time passed between BotW and TotK>>740795424That was like 14 years ago, anonThis game will be BotW 1.3
>>740795564You can't fucking tell that from looking at 15 seconds of link on a bed
>>740795595And? They have a good base to work on for OOT already. And it's MS. I'm pretty sure they'll add new shit to it.
>>740795682Look at Link's clothes and the scraps of character design we've gotten
>>740782725When I was a kid I went more like>"Ewwwww! Get away from me nasty fish!"
>>740795745TP did not look like that, TP was stylized, this is something else
>>740795682You can, Actually. His leg leather plate thing has the same swircel pattern that is all over the TP art style. It looks very similar to the Zelda HD Experience. Maybe Adult Link will have the same design as TP Link. Actually reminds me I would be rather excited for a TP remake after this, because TP is basically the Code Veronica of Zelda games. So ambitious, but so flawed and all it needs is a few writing changes to become a much better story.https://youtu.be/arHNcSMXaBk
>>740794996As someone who's actively been modding OoT since its source code has been publicly accessible, OoT is a game where a person who has access to a given aspect of it can basically overhaul and redo most of that aspect in the span of a single year.It's a big game, but not so excessively large that a team of people somewhat familiar with it couldn't rebuild something like it in basically a couple of years. Three years and a decent budget, along with access to the original material is reasonably enough for a full remake + extras without serious issues.
>>740795883I hate to tell you this anon but compared to the original Kokiri Tunic this is also stylized>>740795974The cloth gambeson he's wearing over the grass tunic is really TP too, it's giving Young Link armor as a reflection of TP giving the adult tunic a thin chainmail shirt
Link will look closer to this.
>>740795974>So ambitiousAll the ambition seemed to be in the material for the trailers. The actual game is so straightforward and bland in comparison it's insane.
>>740796103What's the right from, anyway? I keep seeing that image.
>>740796103CYAAAA-t
>>740796151IT's the generic model for Link in marketing.
>>740795974TP style wasn't swirls >>740795883, TP style had a very specific type of shading and filters on it that gave it some sort of blurry/misty look to it. This new OoT looks EXACTLY like the cutscenes in mario rpg HD, same lighting and plastic look to everything
>>740796103I hate that they made Link's shield smaller
>>740796245Marketing not specifically for this game but for Nintendo in general, you mean?
>>740795564It looks nothing like TP.
>>740796323Yes, in general.
>>740795457The journey is far more impactful in Botw, sorry champ.
>>740796406Gotcha, thanksIt's not a bad looking model though, if be happy with it if this was how he looked in the remake.
>>740796509It's a game where literally nothing happens except finding some memories. Even Souls games have more of a "journey" than that
>>740792795I choose to believe this
>>740796362It looks like TP's idea of Kokiri children and a Deku Tree
>>740787083>talking about a different Link from a different game when it was explicitly stated in Ocarina at least twice by Rauru and Sheik that Link only got the Triforce of Courage after it split when Ganondorf tried to take the whole thing
>>740781503>pc port>not a single mod that makes this actual 3d with third person camerawhat's the fucking purpose?
>>740796804It looks nothing like TP.
>>740796298it's rotated
>>740797227It looks a lot like TP
>>740796753We're done here, tard.
>>740797247Ehhhhhhhhh compare the Hylian Shield proportional to Link's body in OoT and pretty much every game after that, the shield is more of a large buckler in TP and every game after
>>740796789It's really cool and handles it quite well in my opinion. When you accept this take on it, you know there's a timeline where he had died, and the instance of Link you're playing as has moved away from it to a different future.
>>740790180closest botw ever felt to being a whole, true blue zelda game was hyrule castle for me
>>740781503Listen, it’s a remake. You should expect slop.
>>740788658Wonder if they are going to give OoT Zora shark teeth.Even in OoT3D, it was limited expression wise.And Hyrule Warriors were their idealized versions of the characters.Can't freaking wait, high fidelity swimmer bodies.I wonder if they will made the Zora NPCs more distinct since other than named characters, they all look the same.
>>740784147Zora are mammals, just like dolphins.
>>740798281you rescue zora eggs in majora's mask
>>740790180chemistry system >>>>>> zelda formula
>>740798776Internally fertilized eggs, son
>>740798776Platypus lay eggs. Suck on that.
>>740799156I would love it is the cooking system actually did anything interesting and most recipes weren't beaten by just cooking a bunch of the same item or making hearty whatever.
>>740787332>You barely notice on an old TVI clearly remember OoT and other N64 games looking like vomit on old CRT.
>>740788523I liked Zelda's voice a lot. The others I could take or leave (Mercer as Ganondorf was bad though).
>>740799159>>740799359they were literally the babies of the zora you turn into
>>740799461There's a lot of innovation to be made, which is why the mechanics of Botw and Totk need to be iterated upon rather than abandoned.
>>740800184it'll evidently happen somewhere that's not zelda from now on
>>740781503I played it on 3ds and it didn't feel like this either
>>740800134You are just trying to push your fetish, despite having actual evidence.No one would be this defensive despite being proven wrong.
>>740800134>they were literally the babies of the zora you turn intoYes and that's a really cool detail actually, but how is that relevant to the point of fishgirl titties existing?
>>740792031Nintendo already has fucking pronouns in their games, nonbinary bullshit etc. It's 100% getting censored. Big tits are just too much for the modern audience.
>>740800338That's dumb
>>740800810Corporations are legally required to do DEI, have HR departments matching a certain size of the company's total employees, and a thousand other small regulations passed down by our beloved democrats and EU commissioners, and UN delegates.All the shit we complain about with video games is the result of decades of bureaucratization and politicization of everything we interact with on a daily basis, video games included.
>>740790248So half of the 4 available games...
>>740796103Right is lacking muscle definition the left has in thighs and arms.
>>740803512japs think they are gross and link has been progressively turning more and mord into a twink since OoT because of the female audience
>>740796103Nice mascara and lipstick, bro.
>>740786259>BotW font for the title>Not even using OoT's Master Sword on the titleNot saying you have to like it, but this is just them making branding consistent. Hardly indicative of anything.>Link already has the Triforce mark before the Triforce even broke apartWhat this anon said: >>740787083>Doesn't even follow OoT's art style in favor of hiring that manThis is the only complaint I agree with, but it's a big one. Will wait to see what it looks like in motion before I fully judge it, though.
>>740781503
>>740784147Floatation sacs
>>740804158That's a new one.
>>740787387OoT already got one remake and it didn't replace discussion of it.
>>740790430they're going to hive her a mustache and adam's apple and giant shoulders and it's gonna be fucking funny
>>740795369I mean yeah, obviously. Imagine thinking the well will be anywhere near as dark in the remake. Torture equipment with blood on it, and THAT thing as a boss. The only reason they got away with it back then was because graphics werent good enough. Its like how old shooters you used to be able to blow off peoples heads, it wasnt a big deal with the head was a square with some face texture on it that went red to indicate a wound, now with good graphics you show a head exploding it will traumatize some pussy kid and earn your game an M rating immediately.
Miyamoto still works at Nintendo. He's not gonna let them butcher the early Zelda games. He gets whatever the fuck he wants which is why Pikmin is still treated like a major franchise.
>>740807467He works contractually with Nintendo. he does not work AT Nintendo anymore. He is never in contact with developers anymore, and even explained that for a Mario game all he does now is get shown the final renders of Mario for the game and asked if he approves or disapproves.
>>740797035Because it's a shitton of work to fully model that area when you're there for all of 2s.
>>740794996>There's no way they have a whole remake of OoT ready this soon after TotK if its not just a glorified mod of those games.Open world games are vastly harder to make than linear games, especially TotK which had multiple complex physics systems. TotK has about 200 hours of content while OoT has like 35. It's a magnitude of difference in scale.
>>740807625Saar yes, very good 200 hours, collect all the hidden holy poops to put into your panchgavya very good game saar.
>>740807562He is literally on the board of directors retard. One of the higest ranking employees in the entire company. The two guys in charge of game development are both his bitches too, as well as the guy in charge of Zelda. Miyamoto is even running the Mario movie which they will want this to connect to heavily. To suggest Miyamoto has no influence here is delusional.
>>740783346Just listen to how bad the new Star Fox VAs are and you will get your answer
>>740807997It has, for example, 150 mini dungeons most of which have unique puzzles that had to be designed and tested. Each mini dungeon typically has 2 puzzles. Ocarina of Time has 7 dungeons, each of which probably have like 8-10 puzzles. That's like 300 puzzles vs like 60 they have to design and actually they don't have to design any puzzles here because it's a fucking remake. Can you not see how this could be made quicker?
>>740808023Trust me. The title doesn't matter.He doesn't. Give. A fuck.
>>740808247Saar you are are forgetting all the poops they have to hide! Very time consuming job saar!
>>740808271He's trying to sell a Zelda movie next year, why would he not care about the upcoming Zelda game, which is also a remake of a game he ran and one of his personal crowning achievements in his legacy? The people who made OoT are still at Nintendo and they still care about it. Look at for example, the number 2 in game development, Koizumi, who famously directed its sequel majora's mask. Don't you think he cares?
>>740807625>200 hoursi think you mean 4 hours. 3 if youre fast. the reality is that botw and totk are contentless deserts that rely only on gimmicky collect-for-no-reason shit like the golden shits to pad the game out. if you actually play the game directly and dont do pointless 'wandering' bullshit, the game is 3-4 hours long to take out the 4 not-dungeons and beat ganon
>>740808493What the fuck are you talking about? Even if you skipped literally everything getting to and doing the first dungeon would take you like 4 hours. The tutorial alone is at least an hour.
>>740808865>tutorial>an hourbro fucking speedrunners for botw are down to 2 hours to complete the game, glitchless. a regular player who isnt fucking around with useless fluff padding can EASILY do that in 3-4 hours. the tutorial aint shit
>>740809040>>740808865oh and before you try to pull some 'oh i was talking about totk' bullshit, speedrunners for that game are pushing 3 hours now, making it easily possible to complete by a regular player in 4. shut the fuck up, the game has NO REAL CONTENT.
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>>740786637I actually want that. We already have the original and 3DS versions.
>>740808493>>740809040nta but bad and lame content still takes time and resources to develop. was it a good use of resources? no. but there is a reason it took longer than oot.
>>740781503It's gonna be a lot better than this but if you aren't 8-12 years old it won't hit the same way
>>740809118>If a speedrunner can finish a game in 3 hours a normal player on their first play can do 4what the fuck am I reading
>>740804586I created it just after the deimake announcement
>>740809118Blud speedran life and skipped the object permanence stage lmao
>>740809673You aren't black, Sukhdeep.
>>740781503the atmosphere and mood hold up really well for a game that's been left behind technically I expect them to totally eviscerate it in favor of spectacle and constant effects
>>740809394sure i dont deny that, i'm not saying the game didnt take a long time to makeim saying that botw and totk have no fucking content and use open world bullshit tricks to fool people into thinking it does, and its really a 3-4 hour long game and therefore most certainly not worth 70 god damn dollars or god forbid buying a stupid ass underpowered switch forand i guarantee that if they try to make oot into another open world piece of garbage itll be similari have absolutely no faith in modern day nintendo and fully expect this 'remake' to crash and burn, which may be the single worst thing that could ever happen for nintendo. OoT and super mario 64 MADE nintendo. they are the generationally defining games for millenials. nothign else comes even close to the amount of cultural impact that those two games had, in the world of vidya, and no that includes ps2 games; ps2 was better hardware, but oot and sm64 blew all ps2s games out of the water. including shit like metal gear, which was a masterpiece in and of itself; it still couldnt hold up to just how important oot wasid be happier if they had left it alone and not embarked on this remake project which, given 'modern sensibilities' is GUARANTEED to disappoint. i bet you anything that they wont have the balls to do the gerudo right, among other things. they already censored the moon symbol thing because muslims bitched about it on the switch versions
I'm a grown man that has played oot multiple times and i still can't beat the water temple without a guide
>>740810629Get the water to the middle level and then bomb that one cracked wall that's below the first chest you get on the bottom level. Or have any spatial reasoning skills at all.
