I'M GONNA KILL LECHNER!
this game looks like shit
>>740790926Do we know if supports are back?I couldn't find any hint to them in the trailer
>>740790926I'm gonna be killing millions, possibly billions, in her name
>>740790926Sorry for me it's pirate waluigi
>>740790926Cute war criminal
I kinda want to molest this character. Make her feel powerless.
I don’t care about the MCs
>>740790926For me, it's Cai Cenat
>your avatar is barely relevant>main pushed lord is a broccoli-haired twink>extremely likely there's no marriage since your avatar is barely relevantFE is about to die again lmao.
scrimblo bimblo fans seething cause this year it's all about fire emblem
>avatar is barely relevant>s/he's just front and center on the game coverEveryone who has above room temperature IQ knows that the Hero Games are just the prologue segment of the game before shit gets real.
>>740791726Nice tits
>>740791067Why wouldn't a staple of the series not be in this game?
>>740791584these are all good things though
>>740791030Fibby bibby. Between the absolute train wreck that was OOT and all of Nintendo’s recent disasters like TOTK and the entire Switch 2 library, how will Nintendo ever recover?
When does General Hannibal Barca show up?
>>740791271She's an archer. She already feels powerless.
>>740791726>outfitSo, it's now very clear that she's in league with the avatar, right? That's why she's fighting Dietrich at first but then joins him (or maybe vice versa).
Will you play and enjoy the game if the gameplays it's good ?
>>740792067Maybe there's a cult that worships Eshmel
>>740792069No I only enjoy games that I believe line up with my political views based on the opinion of randos on the internet.
>>740792018https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBWCrlkQ_v4
>>740790926alucard is the only good design in the entire game
>>740792351why the fuck you lyin?https://youtu.be/M-ruSdKbQUM
>>740792498>defeated>instant_loss>interracial>rape>impregnation
How exactly will the angel avatars work? are they a playable unit? do you control them in the overworld?
>>740792498Name my band
>>740792351I really liked how totally unbiased they were towards him in the introduction>Heres our totally not main hero with his black ass negroe dad in prison(feel sad for him pls)>Uhh that dude wants to fight or something>WGHHH GIRLPOWER REVENGE BLAH BLAH x2was really subtle
Cutesythea
>>740792593
>>740792835I'm warming up to the waluigi guy. I love ugly bastards, bandits and meme units in FE. I unironically hope he's a bad unit, I love scrimbloing bad units
>>740791584As someone who only got into the series recently, is marriage that important? That's a sincere question, not a complaint.I've played Three Houses, Engage, Sacred Stones and Path of Radiance. The first two had "marriage" but it just amounted to whatever character you pick off a list getting an extra scene at the end, didn't it? The other two don't have marriage and don't really lose anything for it.I know the 3DS games had a children mechanic, I think? Is that what makes marriage a worthwhile mechanic?
Actual lance lord. It's real.
I need more Shamir
>>740792498>interracial>vanilla>true_love>handholding>leg_lock>impregnation
Marriage with Marianne!
>>740792854I think it's actually a really interesting angle. What if the fightsexual dude with no real responsibilities or obligations wasn't just some side character to fill out the roster but actually given unprecedented importance in the story?Everybody else has actual goals and ambitions and this guy just wants to be a murder hobo.
>>740792717They haven't appeared in gameplay at all yet. My wild speculation is that they possess your chosen lord (explaining Cai's changing eye color) and then manifest physically when shit spirals out of control in the midgame.
>>740790926Her face when alucard says no toPegging
>>740790926did lechner rape her or something? game is filled with niggers and used goods
>>740793107>I know the 3DS games had a children mechanic, I think? Is that what makes marriage a worthwhile mechanic?Genealogy of the Holy war introduced the concept, but yes. Supports are pretty pointless in modern FE with no child characters. In 3H and presumably this one as well, they only matter for your main character since it allows them to recruit units.
>>740793227I like Alucard too but this is a cope
>>740793162Last lance lord we got was Ephraim and he was a gigachad so have high expectations for Ishmael.
>>740793107Only mechanically in 4, Awakening and Fates since those have a second generation of units descended from the first generation. And Engage to a smaller extent.But the support mechanic has been significant, especially with its mechanical revisions in Awakening onwards since it provides significant material boosts. It's just that marriage/paired endings are the end result of such.
>>740790926I only know one thing, I want to kill Lechner. I Need to. It's not a hope, or a dream. It's like a hunger, a thirst.
Gonna be hilarious to see this flop because majority of characters are poopcolored
>>740793341>Supports are pretty pointless in modern FE with no child charactersRetarded post, supports were introduced in the gba games that had no children. They're there to expand on the personalities and relationships of the characters and to give you mechanical bonuses in battle
>>740792498pic not related surely Theodora looks like a nigger Edelgard and Rhea fusion who the fuck likes this?
>>740793162Tying the Sword of the Creator to a stick doesn't make it a spear, Sothis.
>>740793541Bro FE8 was over 2 decades ago now. It's not modern FE. The bonuses in Engage and 3H are inconsequential apart from Byleth recruitment.
>>740793162Means we'll get a lance character in Smash.
>>740792835Digable Bandits
White lords save us
>>740793285>bodysnatch the lordLmao
>>740792498how come japan can get away with blatant blackface? this is a white character with grey skin
>>740793570*raises hand*
If the avatars are actual characters ill buy it just to impregnate theodora
>>740793570couldn't stand Edeltard, liking Theodora thus far.
>>740791141millions of sperm will die
>>740793227He doesn’t want to be a murder hobo though, that’s Leda. He’s the classic “seeking a stronger battle” shonen type>>740793452Lance lords are the most kino
>>740793354To be fair Dimitri wasn’t shown as anything cool. People thought he was lame and plain until the timeskip. Maybe it’s another “don’t let him do anything until another trailer” situation.
>>740792854It's based because I'm picking the white conqueror on my first playthrough and just murderhoboing my way to the top. Intricate stories? Sad backstories? All stepping stones to hone his blade.
>>7407937681. everybody knows Japan is racist2. hella black people in the game, something for everyone
>>740793162>literally jumps in for his introductionFEbros finally got a dragoon.
Please actually let us get to know the characters before making us pick this time
>>740793452Did you forgot about Dimitri?
>>740794291You pick at the start again. The trailer shows both Cai and Leda with the same "Prepare for your first match" deadline.
>>740794338I don't count lords that share a game with an avatar
unironically does anyone like cai?By all metrics including JP he is by far the least popular lord of the four
>>740793285There's a brief shot of Cai in pain looking at his hand in the trailer, so I think the rock in his palm gets stuck in there at the start of the game, and he's slowly being turned into some weird crest monster, and that's why his eyes are going red.
>>740793745I wonder if we'll have to fight him at some point? With what I saw yesterday, I kinda get a 'defending champion' vibe from him now.
>>740791030It looks like they heard the complaints of all the dicking around you had to do in 3H and decided we needed even more dicking around>look at all this stuff on the world map!>spend all your time doing things that aren't battles and you'll be rewarded with some enemies chucked without care onto a small square arena!>you're welcome!
>>740794361I am not playing through this game four times, man
>>740794493I think that's a sign of the times we're in. Who wants to be kind and noble in today's age?
kneel
>>740794510>RibeiraSo, Cai's actually a macaco then?
>>740790926>brown dancer wants revengeCome up with something original already
>>740794774He's portugese
This game will sell millions unlike shitgage
>>740793745right made for NTR
When is Anna gonna start giving us updates
>>740794719it has nothing to do with his personality and more the fact that his design is just shit
>>740792498>>740792835I love how with everyone else who use some form of energy attack when using their leader special, she's the only one that doesn't do that. She just rip a chunk of the ground out and throw it at the enemy. LMAO!!! What a fucking gorilla.
>>740794493>>740794719Cai doesn't look bad, but the other three look way more interesting. Cai feels like a sort of everyman character, a view into what the public's day-to-day life is like in this setting, while the other three seem much more mysterious and to be learned about with Cai like a perspective character. The structure of the plot doesn't seem to be leaning (or fully leaning) into Cai being the main lens into this world though, so there is a bit of awkwardness there.
>>740795421No. Cai's dreads make him look very bad.
>>740792161It would be fun to have your own personal worshiper gun nunUsually everyone sucks avatar's cock anyway but it is nice when it is official
>>740795421Cai is Vaan from FF12 who was still a hated character
>>740794510>and he's slowly being turned into some weird crest monsternice, so Cai is for chuuni chads who can't control their hands
>>740792498she'd actually be pretty if not for the stupid horn-like ornaments on her head, they make her look like ass, ASS!!!
>>740792593You called?
Pink pits.
>>740795684Pink sex
>>740795684Wayu?
>>740795684what is her lance proficiency?
>>740794960>>740794774>Dagda was actually Spain and Portugal the whole timeSpanish Shamir real? Mi hermosita Shamir tan bellesa que tanto te amo
>>74079567112 damage? that's a lot
So Edelgard died for nothing?
>>740790926
>>740795671That soldier is me
>>740796008She fucking cooked that run
>>740794493I think this is going to be like an Engage/Silver Snow-like thing where the devs intended for him to be the first choice that they were expecting everybody to pick, and then everybody just immediately gravitates to literally anywhere else.But the presumed Edelgard bonus of strong determined female heroine is being split by Theodora and Leda so I don't think it'll be as lopsided as 3H where player stats for months after release was just Edelgard, Lysithea, Dorothea and whatever the fuck else the majority of the playerbase was doing on CF. Anecdotally, a casual glance at polls around the internet show Leda taking a strong plurality while Dietrich and Theodora duke it out for second place depending on the place the poll is being conducted.Part of me wants to think that as we get close to the September release there's a dedicated direct that's going to reveal something that might give Cai a fighting chance to be as interesting as the other lords but at the same time you're basically flipping a coin on if Intelligent Systems is going to be savvy or utterly oblivious to player tastes.
>>740794493You all keep asking this, and the answer each time is yes. Least popular = 0. He's a shounen protagonist with a ki blast attack. If that wasn't somewhat popular, it wouldn't be so ubiquitous. He's also unique for Fire Emblem being the first terror-bird rider, and again, having a kamehameha wave.
>>740796054Yes lmao.
Glasses girl will be exclusively tied to Cai so all nerdy girl enjoyers will be forced to pick him.
>>740795948>Wayu?
>>740793224Iggy canonically bred that. The boar has been put down
>>740796078It's a shame most people haven't noticed the color scheme that I've been pointing out where there's a dark and light blue shade, which aligns with each army.I'm expecting a general overview later going over how deployments are a bit different towards release (along with a Part 2 storyline reveal that they teased at the end)
>>740790926>nooo they can't be brown!ISHYGDDT
>>740793107While literal marriage is not needed, I personally say that the support system doesn't have a real conclusion without some form of paired ending or actual mechanical benefits like children. Supports on their own are great, but with how limited they have to be and you can get so many in any one run, a game lacking a conclusion for it is just strange. It what makes Engage so baffling, why would they cut paired endings for everyone but Alear? Binding Blade got shat on for that shit, no one remembers the "Harem Lord Roy" shit in 2026.Sometimes I am really confused by this dev team.>>740796324While I am also pretty cold on Cai, I have learned my lesson with Dimitri not to take pre-release popularity at face value. He was the least popular of the 3H lords and everyone just thought his "dark secret" was a nothingburger. Not...the torment nexus that is his psychological profile. I'm willing to expect each one have something really going for them. And honestly, if I had to pick one that will disappoint or drop the ball, my bet would be Theodora.
>>740796389thank god I don't like the nerdy archetype anyways, well... mostly, I like it when it's a nerdy guy who's friends with a buff chad dude, that's the only scenario where I can like a nerdy character
>>740796389Lol. That would make cai go from indifference to seething white hot hatedAt least Claude had lel schemer going for (granted he didn't do any real schemes in houses) cal is literally a nothing character He's male Flavia someone who IS genuinely thinks will be popular while he gets mogged in his own game
>>740796324You're only saying that because you're his childhood friend, glasses girl. I see your game.
>>740796113>torpedoing a run with that amazing Rebecca
>>740796525>no one remembers the "Harem Lord Roy" shit in 2026That still gets talked about constantly
>>740796506So the other lords will be Green units?
>>740795684Why are pink haired girls always sluts?
>>740796587Cai is nothing like Claude
>>740796727This has been debunked
>>740795948Can you imagine people reclassing the pegasus girl to swordmaster, just for that look? The tables turning.
>>740796762I never said otherwise. Learn to read before kneejerk reacting.
>>740796506>>740796702The light blue are temporary allies that you can control.
>How can we improve Edelgard?>Make her a half-naked nigger>They were right
>>740796864>also she throws a rock
>All 4 protagonists are likable but will be corrupted in some way (Cai’s eyes become red in the trailer)>The tournament wish actually fucks the whole planet up and they become the “Darkest Dark” for fucking with fate>Game shifts to playing as Eshmel sent down from heaven to fix what the 4 protagonists did and we get the full avatar experienceBe honest this is gonna be kino isn’t it
Can we redeem Rhea’s evil twin?
>>740796617Wasnt a relay
>>740796954>>The tournament wish actually fucks the whole planet up and they become the “Darkest Dark” for fucking with Fire Emblem/Stay Night
IS probably didn't think that far ahead which is why this map isn't visually congruous with 3H's Fodlan map, but it's funnier to think that something really fucking bad happens to this entire continent which is why the landmass is just an empty ocean and the rump state of Dagda is whatever's left of it far southwest of Fodlan. Just like how in Awakening, 2000 years after Marth time, Altea is a fucking desert and most of the islands merged into the mainland.
>>740796587You don't even know anything about him or the game generally. Wtf are you talking about?
>>740797145>NOOOO YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE HIMLiterally nobody cares about Cai. He looks like shit.
Can we rape the guy naming shit at IS?>Those who slither in the dark>Darkest Dark
>>740797212The seething self inserters won’t like this one boss
>>740797212I care about him though
>ERM ACKSHUALLY THE TWO MALE/FEMALE OPTION UNIQUE WEAPON CHADS FRONT AND CENTER OF THE COVER ART AREN’T THE AVATARS! THEY’RE BARELY IN THE GAMEI’ve never seen cope like this it’s sad kinda
Is this uh...real world or exercise?
>>740796525>my bet would be Theodora.either she or Dietrich
>>740796954>Cai, stop! You were supposed to be our ally, not our nemesis!>Nemesis, huh? Oh yeah, I'm thinkin' I like that name.
>>740797250Nobody told them about the word vantablack… we could have had basedkino
Was dot theory anon right?
>>740797212What does that have to do with what I said, pinhead? You're deranged.
>>740796954>All 4 protagonists are likableLet's not get ahead of ourselves here. Two of the protagonists are only 'likable' because I want to stick my dick in their moist holes.
>>740797460>no argument Yeah. I accept your concession faggot.
>>740796525Plus this was the PERFECT setting for “child” units being a new gladiatorial recruit and then they could even have platonic same sex S supports without kicking a rats nest. The new recruit would have a combo of the two units skills and traits. They missed out.
>>740797401not yet because we don't know if those dots were the avatar or some other character
>>740791356>Make races of ridiculously attractive dragon people>Make it so there's barely any of them around even if the game is set in an era where there reasonably could beWhy's IS so gay
where the fuck is the daily update???
>>740797401Partially. He was right about them hiding something, which was Eshmel. But it has yet to be seen if he's actually going to be participating in the battles alongside the other characters.
>>740797401He's not wrong at the very least, they are hiding something. A big issue is that we don't know when Eshmel drops into the players' hands, and all the maps so far at least seem early into the adventure (though the level scaling for everyone is all over the place because debug goofiness). It could either be the avatar or someone else they are hiding.
>>740794751I like Sothis but this part of the trailer was cringe as fuckThey should have her use magic or something, and tell Cassandra to sound like less of a dorky theater kid
>>740796768pink hands typed this post
>>740797323At the very least, you have to acknowledge something is unusual about them. We didn't see them at reveal (a first), we haven't seen them being controlled in the hub, and the recent trailer doesn't verbally acknowledged them as avatars (but shows them, so they're not a "secret" or a twist). This is highly unusual top to bottom.Avatars are normally treated as THE player character in pre-release footage. But we've only seen Cai and Leda representing the player. So something different is going on.
>>740797627> though the level scaling for everyone is all over the place because debug goofinessStatement made moments before disaster… what if level 30 kai in the arena is because every chapter map is in the arena…
>I accept your concessionNo one who says this has ever uttered a single intelligent thought. Always the dumbest motherfuckers in the room.
I am going to impregnate her because she has dark skin and therefore built for BWC
>>740797854Once again I accept your concession.
My biwisi is for nabataens only
just bought three houses Is there permadeath?Is there an easy way to recruit the white haired (mage?) loli early in the game?
>>740797117>Shamir says it takes months to get to Dagda>says it's far west>rainforests and frozen plateaus is like saying the amazon and canada>hammocks are from Mayan civilization and one of Balthus lost items is described as oneIS is literally just ignoring all the lore from 3H. They genuinely don't know what they're doing. They just say people liked 3H and said let's make another game there
>>740797687Cassandra Lee Morris can sound angry or deep, Hopes is a good showcase of that. I think this is just a case of the manipulative editing not working for voice direction. We know that the devs LOVE to just cut lines completely out of context and mash them in cutscenes that don't actually match. Sothis is a very big victim of that. I imagine that's not the cutscene the line was supposed to be playing.>>740797827Assuming the clock wasn't a victim of debug goofiness, don't worry. If the game starts in July, we know that the games end in November, so that's about 4 or so chapters with the Heroic Games. The arena doesn't seem to stick around as our main battle map for that long, unless this is an absurd tutorial arc that would make Xenoblade 2 blush.
>>740797947>Is there permadeath?Yes, but divine pulse so no>Is there an easy way to recruit the white haired (mage?) loli early in the game?Just pick the house that she's in
>>740797953>They just say people liked 3H and said let's make another game thereThey were right
>>740798041Really monkeys pawed it but 3H tards will eat up anything that has a connection to Fodlan even if it's a game full of niggers with trash writing so really can't say I'm surprised.
>>740796954>sent down from heaven to fix what the 4 protagonists did and we get the full avatar experienceYes, and all the while the world is gone to shit and we're in the midst of saving it, we're going to be playing Atelier on the map, FF in the areas, and having tea parties in the city with our besties. Absolute kino incoming.
>>740797947Yes but there's a setting to turn it off.Yes just feed her a bunch of treats and gifts.
>>740798028ok thanks
>Tharjafag seethingAutomatically validates FW.
>>740797947Casual mode no, classic yesLysithea is part of the yellow faction but can be recruited on any of themThe maximum number of lolis can be recruited on any route except crimson flower (which is accessed by a choice at the middle of the red faction’s route)I would recommend azure moon because most of the games plot revolves around those characters
>>740797947Permadeath if you turn it on.Easiest way is either pick the house she's in, or just do it the old fashioned way and bruteforce your magic stat and support with her. And alternatively you can recruit her in Edelgard's route after the time skip.
>>740796954would be kino but how is our angel mc going to build supports with non-lord characters if he / she is absent for the half of the game?
>>740794751But is she still barefoot?
>>740798010>so that's about 4 or so chapters with the Heroic Games.That's literally nothing, not even 20% of a Fire Emblem game
>>740798129what gifts and treats does she like?
>>740790926Who the fuck is this? Is it Byleth? Did he become Sothis’ divine warrior and husband?
>>740790926*feels the aura*
>>740798378Call him Eshmel.
>>740798197>>740798196gonna go for azure moon then its raining here for the next 2 weeks so I will have lots of time
>>740798378canonically and objectively byleth passed over sothis for that edelgard pussy
>>740798445SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER!
Darkest Dark is such a dumb Kingdom Hearts tier name.Just call her Impure One, Dark One or whatever.
>>740798314All of the dessert/ghost gift items and flowers. You get double points for the relevant flower but I forget lysithea’s. You can recruit every character in the game* by getting a B support pre-timeskip (except pink in CF, brown man in non-AM, edgelord man in non-CF, and the church in CF)
>>740798447Just know that the Golden Deer have more fun
>>740798314Lysithea's Lost Items>Encyclopedia of Sweets>Princess Doll >New Bottle of PerfumeLysithea's Favorite Gifts>Lily >Armored Bear Stuffy >Arithmetic Textbook >Tasty Baked Treat>Book of Crest DesignsYou can also host tea parties or rent her as a guest unit to also increase her support points. But the most important part is training up the MC's magic rank.Or again, just join the Golden Deer to get her the fastest.
>>740791030apologize to engage, you cocksuckers.
Dietrichbros ww@?
>>740797627>we don't know when Eshmel drops into the players' handsI do feel like it'd be kinda weird for the game to be like 'create your avatar' at the start, and then you don't even see him/her for several chapters, but I think the Hero Games are just a prologue segment (think Lyn mode) and the game takes off after that with the avatar leading.
>>740798532>canonicallyHuh?>objectivelyI went for her too on the first go so that makes sense. Is he the father/ancestor of the Alucard looking guy that sword of his looks familiar in design.
>>740797250IS wrote 深淵より暗きもの, blame the translator.It's not even like an actual given title, just a description.
>>740798598we hate fun here
>>740798563I think this is the 100% certain tell that Komuro is writing this game
>>740797590Dwagons shouldn't be that common
Question: did this chinky lady reappear in the new trailer?
>>740797117Shamir just made up her dagda backstory so that the player would feel bad about her. She is actually from texas.
>>740798195>eating shit cause a person you don't like doesn't like itSad
>>740793452Dimitri Chrom (Great Lord)EphraimEliwood (Cav Lord)SigurdAll could use lances, but if we go purist then only Dimitri and Ephraim are Lance Lords.
>>740798683"Darkest dark" is definitely a decision by the translators since the Japanese name is black one.
>>740798563Blasphemous is probably the best counterpart to immaculate that doesn’t explicitly reference Christianity (because satanic fits better)
>>740798563>>740798683>>740798674
>>740798664what are you "huh"ing me for??? It's canon that you fuck edelgard and if it doesn't happen in your playthrough is because you played the game wrong.
>>740798674>深淵より暗きものJesus, is that going to be the title for the Risen equivalent this time?
>>740798750Dimitri can use every weapon type though
>>740798847>Risen equivalent The truest marker of a nu-emblem IS game
>>740798683anon? can you stop saying this in every thread? I'm starting to lose my will to live.
>>740798749>A bloo bloo its shit because my headcanon is brokenArchanaea was the name of the continent and one of the countries on said continent. Dadga is most likely the same way.
>>740798715unfortunately nojust like the gun nun and the blond mage
>>740798769>the Japanese name is black one"深淵より暗きもの" means 'one darker than the abyss'.
>no update today
>>740798842No I mean like is there confirmation by Retarded Systems?
What if there are 2 ishmael
>>740799056ANNA BETRAYED US
I hope there is an official (beautiful) yuri couple in this game
>>740799187We just did that in engage scholar
>>740799056My memory is fuzzy, but didn't they do these things on Tuesday for Engage? We might have to wait a whole week for the first one.
>>740798975Shut the fuck up, niggerlover.
>>740797947Just play golden deer, its the funniest house because its just a bunch of commoner plebs compared to BL and eagle where everyone is some noble twat
>>740798715>>740799026they're in one of the updated store screenshots
>>740799326You owned that fag, tharjachad!
>>740798975If Shamir is from the Dagdan Empire and not any of the other 3 countries then that's literally southeast of the empire and not even close to Brigid. If IS can't be bothered to make the place geographically consistent with what was stated in 3H how can you expect them to make an even halfway decent story.
>>740792161>gun nun was the FW Tharja all alongCrazy.
>>740799326>larping as a tripfagSad
>>740799351this
ugly nigger game
cute!
>>740799326>spic being racist (Lol
>>740799440I liked the fake tripfag’s post more than yours. Why should I care about lore if the devs don’t? It really highlights the ABSURDITY of these internet debates.
>>740799497Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the persona club's two blocks down
Where is the token loli?>Where is the token loli?Where is the token loli?>Where is the token loli?
Shamir sharp left turn rightShamir you are breaking the car !!!
>>740790926This fire emblem looks like garbage
>>740799281Daily or every few days. Check the SF archives, this was during the thick of it.https://serenesforest.net/page/16/
>>740799614That’s the metaphor club. Persona is for wholesome weebs only with an all nipponese cast.
>>740799624left looks pretty small
>>740799471>>740799565At least I'm not sucking IS cock over shit skinned ''women'' in FW. But then again /v/ liking trannies and monkeys is to be expected.
>Three Houses and this game's art style sucks ass>Engage's art style sucks ass>All ruined by localizers tooHow much longer til Nintendo does the localization in house in Japan?
>>740799565That wasn't me but yes, if you think Mexicans aren't racist then I've got a bridge to sell you>>740799575>Why should I care about lore if the devs don’t?Replace the word lore with "gameplay" and see how stupid what you said is.
>Shamir>descendantsDo we tell him?
>>740799851Fuck off.
>>740799440Dagdan Continent stretches from Brigid to the west, to an area to the southeast of the empire. An invasion from Dagda, would likely come from the empire's southwest considering that's the closest point to both Brigid AND Enbarr located in the Solidus province.
>>740799746>blondie: My lady, you can choke the life out of me any time you'd like.
>>740799951Kill yourself nigger
>>740799851I’ll concede you owned me on that point but I don’t personally care about lore which is why I said I don’t care if they don’t. I’m sorry for not considering your feelings.
i'll wait for switch 2 emulator
>>740799746that's a boy btw
>>740800070You're not him, but also fuck off.
the response to this game here is unsurprising but what do the japanese think about the game so far
>>740800108Nah, but it's the sister of the orange boy in Cai's group, I'd bet.
>>740800108I wish it fucking was >>740800070Stay, despite not being him
>>740800126Kill yourself nigger
Either I'm crazy or wasn't Corrin a shota? Or was Camilla just way too tall?
>>740799978Ok but why would you describe the location of a continent in reverse terms of how they invaded the country you're in. Dagda as it's shown is south of Fodlan, clearly Dietrich isn't gonna be taking months to get there, and you don't really need to go past Brigid to get there. And we haven't seen any rainforests or snowy places. If IS was gonna make a game to please 3Hfags they could have tried to get details right.My one copium is this is a pangaea situation and it takes place a long long time before 3H and Dagda split off and drifted westward.>>740800071Fair enough. I don't care too much about lore if the game is a standalone, like I liked Engage even though I didn't care for the story. But if this is gonna be a sequel/prequel whatever the fuck then they should have brought back the writing team from 3H.
>>740800247>Either I'm crazy or wasn't Corrin a shota?No?
>>740800247Corrin was an avatar with custom apparence.
>>740795395>gorilla>with those twig armsWhy is fire emblem so afraid of making ladies properly muscular for a change
>>740790926Interspecies Interracial Sex with SAND LIZARDS
>>740792498>This is supposed to be goodLooks like a FEH character
>>740800247Nah, Camilla was just pretty tall. Both versions of male Corrin's body type was pretty lanky despite their youth. Teenager at the youngest.Female Corrin DID have a Loli/loli-adjacent body type and customization options. You can make her look pretty young, especially as F!Corrin didn't have a tall body option.
>>740795664They make her look awesome, AWESOME!!!
>>740800420I wanna unleash a diarrhea shit on her face and have her clean me with her tongue
>>740800420Cute lizzer. I wonder what her deal is going to be.
>>740792498I will be romancing her with my angel avatar and then impregnating her with my divine seed to create the strongest heirs for our new empire
>>740800523>>740800561LAY EGGS
>>740800417wow she is so hot wonder what her strength growth is
>>740800353>We havent seen any rainforests or snowy placesWe also havent seen much of anything beyond the arena and the one port.>Why would ShamirShe could easily be referring to the part of Dagda that she's from.>Why would they go through brigid instead of just sailing upWe know nothing about the state of the ocean in the area directly north of Dagda. We don't know if it was orchestrated by the empire itself or just one kingdom.We dont know if they chose a place with the closest land proximity to minimize reliance on boats to help reduce supply chain pressure.The land is woefully undeveloped to make an assertions yet.
>>740800682I’m romancing all of the lizards and Anna first**if someone gives me their switch 2 for a month
>absImagine just how strong she grips. Will you kneel before the queen?
>>740800764Surely those abs aren't painted...
>every dogshit mechanic from 3H is in the gameFUCK YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO SPEND 2 HOURS IN THE NOT MONASTERY OF THE GAME SO FUCKING HYPE!!!!!!! OH SHIT WHAT'S THAT? THE SAME DOGSHIT CLASS SYSTEM AS 3H?!?!?!?!? YEEEEAAAAHHHH EVERY CHARACTERS CAN BE ANYTHING SO FUCKING COOL!!!1 WAIT....THESE MAP DESIGN OMGGGGGGGGGGG THEY ARE SO GOOD!!! ON THE SAME LEVEL AS 3H AMAZING AND EPIC REHASHED MAP I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT BUT BUT 4 ROUTES INSTEAD OF ONE!?!??!?!?!?! SIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK I WILL PLAY THE GAMES 4 TIMES WITH THE SAME DOGSHIT REHASHED MAP 4 TIMES INSTEAD OF 3???????? YEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>740790926No white people no buy
>>740793715>Means we'll get a lance character in SmashUnless they pick Alear
>>740800856I say this
>>740800764I still used her and married her.
>>740793570yeah bro fusing the two hotest 3h characters and making them brown ha ha who could possible like that ha ha ha not me that's for sure ha ha ha!
>>740800928What do you look like though?
>>740800856Imagine playing the same coliseum map each month of the tournament in each route, I can't wait!!
>>740800856True, but at least you won't get eye cancer this time.
>>740800807>he doesnt have a switch 2
>>740800961it's okay anon enjoy your trophy wife
Moor pirate Waluigi will be a myrmidon with 30% str growth and 70% for dex and speed.
>>740800816>Will you kneel before the queen?No I will dominate her with my superior divine strenght and make her submit to my cock.I love strong women because its hot to dominate them, not because I care about being dominated myself
>>740800856bejita is so lucky
>>740800856this but unironically
>>740800796Just seems like a lot of contradictions. I think the 3H books also mention when they tried to invade they tried to go to the East side of the country which would make sense if it was directly west of Fodlan but the current map makes you think they could have just as easily gone directly south or hit them on the west side. Also we've seen a little bit, the Saramis stuff seems like a desert type nation, especially since they're all darkEither way I have low expectations for the world building on this one
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>>740800860The recent trailer showed like 20 new white characters lol
>>740800807Pull the trigger anon, it's worth it.
>>740801048I only play fire emblem and I don’t feel like buying a console for 1 game. Maybe when the second switch 2 FE comes out.
>>740800856Hey, that's me!
>>740800764ackshually Rinkah is good now in the new meta chud
>>740801043What was up with the graphics and UI of 3H? I know IntSys has a bad track record when it comes to the first game of a console generation, and 3H's development was Hell, but you think someone would have said "this looks like placeholder assets, what are we doing??"
>>740801174>contradictionsThat's not how contradictions work.
>>740801075>dex and speedHey, if the game has a good damage stack, that's a good setup. Plus there's reclassing anyway.
>>740801202Why is she so smug?
>>740801260Nobody really cares about Birthright meta anyways
>>740800856>the first half of the game is gonna be the same exact fucking maps in the heroic games on every route>the second half of the game fighting the big bad evil dragon is likely gonna have 99% rehashed maps on all 4 routesGenuinely mind numbing
>>740801174Salamis is located to the far south of dagda continent.... do you think that all continents have contiguous climates and biomes?
>>740801245I did that for the PS5 and Rebirth and it’s not even plugged in right now. I’ve learned my lesson.
>>740801174Expecting worldbuilding or storytelling in any Fire Emblem entry is a waste of your time, senpai. Just enjoy the gameplay and crank hog to the waifus, as usual.
Theodora is grey, not brown. Her skin tone genes are actually MORE recessive than an Aryan's. You can clearly see her on the white side of the boxart with Alucard. She's fully white approved.
ok but what do they even do?
>>740800856Maybe it's copium but I'm still holding out on the hope they can redeem 3H mechanics. I need to see how the Monopoly board game works before making a final assessment.
>>740801413>crank hog to the waifusI would if any of these new ugly bitches looked good but half of them are fucking brown
>>740801263The 'cope' explanation I've seen is that the game was developed entirely for the 3DS but then hastily ported to the Switch near the end of the dev cycle. I have no proof of this, so I dunno if it's real.
>>740801413He barely understands geography or logistics.
>>740798095>monkey pawed itLiterally.
>>740801202ask me how I know it was made by a westerner
3H classing system wasn't bad actually, the issue was that some promotion paths were akward (most of which were fixed with the DLC classes anyways) and that wyvern's were too strong. It was a balancing issue not a conceptual issue. Good concept bad execution.
>>740801339I dont care about shit like meta. I just use the units I like until I win. Anybody else that does it differently is a huge faggot
>>740801476Espero que te suicides.
>>740801395You could probably sell that PS5 for more than the price of the Switch 2 and get one.
>>740801075That's one possibility. Another possibility is that they flipped it with his Wario counterpart. Make the short, stocky one skilled and week, and the tall lanklet a blind bruiser (he does have an eyepatch).
>>740801527lol
>>740801040fuck yeah daily task just like my favorite gacha!!!! I wanna do everything but play the fucking main gameplay of fire emblem!!! fuck this shitty grid tactic garbage lol where my fishing minigame
>>740801476I feel you
>>740801476Brown women are hot, especially when a white chad fucks them
>>740801476I thought you said you like the green goth girl yesterday?
>>740801043look the same
Brown girl FE sex
>>740801260It's funny that the unit people wanted (Charlotte, nipponese version) would have made her incredibly shit in her game, and the unit nobody wanted or expected is what makes her good
>>740800860Fag
>>740801597I’m going to plug it back in for revelation and stellar blade 2.Can you send me your switch 2?
sex with cai's sister
>>740794510Got a screenshot. He's holding something in his hand that suddenly explodes.
>>740801424just so you know, I never considered Michael Jackson to be white.
>>740801687Based>>740801476Cringe
>>740801373You didn't buy Engage? You deserve dogshit map design simple as that>>740801458Now you have EoV "dungeon" too you know the mechanic that EVERYONE love and wanted back
>>740801779I’m no geneticist but they don’t look related
>>740801527Wyvern is good but overrated at the same time. You either need incredibly high stats or a really good combat art to pull it off. Furthermore, the available flying batts that were worth a damn in any given run varies. Deers for example are given a huge advantage because they get an extra good one for free thanks to Claude.
>>740800816No I'm picking the Alucard looking dude, but I wouldn't mind dvping or daping her with him.
>>740801687Cai is so lucky
I tried using Rinkah once and she had 13 str by level 20. I know she can deal damage with her personal and HP tonics and something about an early promo for magic but I want to see NUMBERS GO UP
>>740801842NBR obviously.
>>740801784Crest Stone attached to a chain (probably a pendant) that fuses to his hand when he picks it up?
>fire emblem for woke westoidsIm starting to believe only China and Korea is based
>>740790926this game better have furries, I miss them.
>>740801527>Anyone can become anything>Good conceptfuck off
no1 likes cai
>>740801910Don't you have a stellar blade thread to jerk yourself off in?
>>740801527I think it can be ok, I just fucking hate almost everyone starting as a blank slate class and the whole hehe deathblow on every phys unit
>>740801910Funnily enough both of those countries have released SRPGs that mog FE on the gameplay level
>>740801809You think her entire race has vitiligo or whatever? No wonder they have a collective wish.
>>740802013Name em I wanna try em
>>740801954it's the same in awakening and fates btw, it just requires a few extra steps but at the end of the day you can basically reclass anyone into anything.
>>740802013Maybe if you enjoy grinding and bad map design
>>740801527There is nothing good about being able to reclass everyone into anything
>>740801967I like him and I hope he romances every single onee-san in the game while his Lilina seethes in the corner
>>740801527Fans just have a weird obsession with making sure every character is "canon-compliant", that they can only ever do what the devs determine they can do. Even if it results in very lopsided class distributions or not even balanced, the idea that (You) have control over your experience is just too much for the average FE fan to handle.doesn't help that every time generic class outfits look like shit but that's a different issueThe only time Reclassing was seen as acceptable was in Awakening and Fates, where the "limited" reclassing options was "character-defining", even if realistically no one was actually going to make Kellam a Thief or Chrom an Archer. And the Fates system was actually far more freeing than people ever give credit to, another one of those things that shows how huge the number of Fates LARPers actually are.>>740801857I agree with this pretty heavily. Furthermore, you just don't even need that many Wyverns. Anyone one of the main lords being a Wyvern was all that was needed, and really you can just get away with Pegasus Knight Edelgard. "Wyvern Spam" is just an easy dismissal of the 3H Class System when the diminishing returns was very harsh and completely unneeded on everything but a Silver Snow Maddening run.
>>740801656Like is a strong word. The green haired girl, light blue haired girl, and pink haired girl with short hair are all the only passable designs but I'm not super into them. Basically if out of all the characters shown so far if you told me to make a 14 man final map army I'd pick them first but then nobody else is an easy pick. Maybe Cais glasses girl would be there too.
>>740802053Reverse Collapse Code Name Bakery for ChinaTroubleshooter: Abandoned Children for KoreaTroubleshooter has build autism if you’re into that, if not try bakery first.
>>740802073It was already garbage in awakening and fates btw
Imagine there being a chance for spells to fail casting in addition to missing, and units with low magic potential have spell failures more often. Maybe on the physical side attacks would deal like half damage due to poor form or something. Restricts reclassing a bit I think.
>>740802073Nope. You cannot make anyone anything in Fates. The only way of circumventing the availability of classes in Conquest for example is to use Corrin's talent, which is limited to the one character you're targeting.
>>740802091Oh yeah Awakening map design was amazing the game that saved the franchise btw
>>740802290You chose to compare your shit to horrible Awakening maps, not me
Predict if this game is going to have longer cutscenes than engagehttps://poal.me/x5mzje
>>740801779>H**lerProbably gonna have to reclass her to make her usable. Or maybe she'll be the Lena/Safy kind of staffslut. Still, not a very exciting class for such a commanding presence.
>>740802363Sorry I meant the amazing 3H map design
>>740802186Ahh I've tried reverse collapse that game was not very good... Banner of the maid is kind of better. Can check the others
>>740793162someone forgot azura
>>740802253oh no I can't make a character archer(japan edition) and I can only make them archer(europe edition). How very limiting and different!
>>740802415I fail to see how naming the games everyone agrees has terrible maps supports your point at all
>>740802402shut up, healer onee-sans are the bestexcept for Natasha, fuck that slut
>>740796407>B-BUH YOU NEED TO USE THE FANFICTIO- I MEAN, LOCALISATION NA-
>>740802013I refuse to play chinese or korean games.
>>740801779I can smell the generic and bland outfit from this image aloneRemind me again why did you guys hated Engage characters design?
>>740802467Those classlines are extremely different though lol
>>740802402Ohhh you wrote "Healer". I was thinking of something quite different...
>>740802154>No one was ever realistically making Chrom into an archerThere's some funny irony in Bow Knight being his best pair up class in the long term.
>>740802550There's a wide chasm between "generic and mundane" and "gaudy circus clown in garish colors" like most of Engage's designs.
>>740801779>cai has a healer sister>and an imprisoned fatherCai is such cuck bait
>>740802550She's just strong and dignitypilled. Every game needs a few of them, and they made her hot in this one.
>>740802186>gunshit
>>740794558>It looks like they heard the complaints of all the dicking around you had to do in 3H and decided we needed even more dicking aroundYou haters are deranged. Because they've clearly cut down the awful monastery bullshit dramatically. Not doubled down on it.
>>740802550when you make a game, your goal as a character designer is to make designs that fit the setting the characters live in to make a believable experience. recent FE games all fail at this btw
>>740801941there are furry masks
>>740802570>yeah bro I know you can turn xander into a servant or a sniper or a general or whatever you want... but it's not the same because you can't turn him into a ninja!!!WOW! How powerful!! This must be a very deliberate decision in design and not a gimmick meant to make you buy the other version of the game right? That's why even in revelations you still can't turn xander into a ninja.. right???
>>740802890Im talking about the in game bland generic outfit you know how in 3H everyone wear the same shit if they have the same class
>>740801941I got a mobile game you would love
>>740801967He's Vaan all over again
>>740802253>You cannot make anyone anything in FatesName one fucking case of this being relevant.
>>740802887>>740803016>non blood related older sister healer>pink brown manakete>pink pega pony slutCai...won.
>>740801223Only white lord is a temu Alucard and regular Alucard is already gay.
>>740803000You can turn Xander into a ninja in Conquest since he has a friendship with Kaze>>740803032It's relevant very often. Lots of magic characters would appreciate diviner from Corrin, but also samurai is very sought after. You cannot have both.
what would need to happen in Cai's story for (You) to like him anon?
switch 2 homebrew when? emulator when?like raiders and fire emblem are some easy reason for me to think about switch 2 but the problem with renting a switch 2 is the renting i want to own it or not bother with it
>>740803004I don't think it's generic tho. You can see it matches with her portrait. She's got some kinda purple chesty number on, with leather reinforcements and a sword at her hip. Hard to tell if she's wearing pants or a long robe. I think it looks good for a healer but also surprisingly warrior-like. Maybe Priests have a Monk / War Cleric promotion in this game.
>>740801954>>Good conceptIt is a good concept. Characters just need to be more distinct. Everyone being able to become anything, doesn't mean they'll be good as anything. The problem with 3H isn't that the characters can all become anything, it's that the characters were too similar so it the class and weapons mattered more than who it was in said class and with said weapons.
>>740803132You can turn anyone into anything in Conquest through Corrin. What even is your argument.
>>740803190Eat one less hambuger every week and you'll be able to afford the S2 + FW by the time it comes out instead of begging for a vibe coded emulator.
>>740802968The mask stays on during sex.
>>740802550because they look like vtubers and vtubers are bad
>>740803185Fix the shitty hair and make him not a little faggot like Cyril
>>740803185His father isn't an innocent man and Cai wants to repeat his crimes/join with him again.
>>740803313That you're still limited in major ways. Take Benny for example. He has no classes to gain from friendship in Conquest, hence he cannot possibly gain access to more than 3 classlines: knight, fighter, and ONE additional class from marriage. That one remaining class is limited by what the gen 1 females he can marry are unless you're willing to expend your one single Corrin talent on giving him something of your choosing. In 3H, I can literally hop classes all day with no restrictions other than how much I feel like grinding skills.
>>740802917Hey alright sure look cut down to me
Did people complain about class identity or something? Why can everyone be just any class now. I really hate that about the new games.
>>740802942My goal is to make sexy cumsluts to sell to gooners
>>740794558Why are you assuming the points on the map won't have significant pre-designed battle encounters? And why are you assuming the non-battle points on the map will take a long time at all to get through? It's like you've decided that it'll waste your time without anything to back that up with. I for one am very excited to carve out my own path of my own choosing across the world. And hopefully your chosen path influences the game a lot.
>>740803132>they want the classes that literally no one in the route has access toNot relevant.
>>740802917You can't be seriously saying that after watching the trailer>recruiting units is in the hub>training/reclassing units is in the hub>big overworld map with tons of fishing mini-game trash>Echoes dungeon scrollingThe goal is to "prepare" for monthly big maps that you will replay over and over each route on top of the grinding ones.
>>740802917Yup very cut down nothing to see here
>>740803313Not him but there's only 1 Corrin. Fates had the right idea with limited reclassing + inheritable class sets. It makes it so characters are still innately inclined in a certain direction, but you can do fun, unique class paths and combos if you so desire.What's happened in the Switch era is that everything is blown wide open, and therefore everything feels generic and interchangeable as a result.
>>740803654Ok then you can't reclass into anything because most BR classlines aren't available at all outside of Corrin.
>>740802917Look fine to me here can't wait seem like classic FE right here
Im gonna die of laughter if the game once again descends into a timeskip where all 4 factions are at war with each other again.
>>740803517That one additional class can be anything because you are free to marry him with any female character including corrin. This is a disingenuous argument. Fates has limitations but if you know what you are doing they can be easily ignored and basically irrelevant.
Oh no, someone riled up the conqueers, so now we gotta listen to another tirade where we pretend there aren't limiting factors in every reclass game.
>>740803763But that's mutually exclusive with other things you might want. What are you not understanding about what limitations mean?
>>740802917This is not filler this is the real FE experience.Can't wait to see fishing and collecting flowers and cooking and grabbing my freebies dailies to make the game easier.
>>740803730Also, why not create a 5th optional route that only unlocks after you did all 4 routes where it's essentially the true ending to the game?
>>740803016No since you're not stuck with him for the entire game if you don't choose his route.
>>740803543>>740803661>>740803663>Hey alright sure look cut down to meWhat's the issue? Stepping on a fish or seed tile might take as little as seconds. Reaching the knights in upper left corner, could consume 12 of the aforementioned 172 turns. Take a minute to do. And then you've got a battle. Why assume it'll be a fucking slog like 3H's monastery crap?
>>740803728I see 10 units listed on the map for busywork, 2 grinding NPCs, and who knows how many shopkeepers
>>740803763\>>740803819>That one additional class can be anything because you are free to marry him with any female character including corrinAlso if it's not Corrin you can't change him to anything. The females he can marry do not hold every class in the game, and some of them even overlap.
>>740803834Cave tiles might take longer. But not even that suggests it'll take a long time, and from the map to judge there aren't even that many caves.
>>740800079Realistically speaking when can we expect a Switch 2 emulator? I refuse to buy a whole ass console for a single game
>>740803834>Rose TempestI wonder if you'll be able to give your team a custom name.
>>740803796We had one day without them
>>740803402i've been able to afford a switch 2 forever now i just don't want to support nintendo shit practices
>>740803615>Why are you assuming the points on the map won't have significant pre-designed battle encounters?Because that's how it's worked in every game with skirmishes. You take a location that already exists on the world map, often one in which you've already completed a story mission. Then, you add in a random batch of nobodies to fight. It's grinding.I think there's good reason to be concerned about that when that's how it has worked in every game (Gaiden, SS, Awakening, Birthright/Revelation, SoV, 3H, Engage).
>>740803961CFW doesn't even exist so not any time soon unless they find an exploit. Nintendo made extra certain to keep the Switch 2 locked down tighter than the first iteration.
>>740803961Didn't all the group get shut down sometime ago?
>>740803480and this shit doesnt? Its literally using the same technology that vtuber use
>>740803961it really sucks, I know I won't like the game that much but I still want to play it and be there because playing a straight up new FE game is always fun as fuck
>>740803903The capital at the centre is likely the most bloated place on the entire map. And the most monastery like thing in the game. But unlike in 3H, you won't be in the "monastery" in-between every single battle. Pushed into doing every single monastery chore again and again and again in-between every battle. Instead in Fortune's Weave, you'll be out and about on the continent of Dagda, away from the capital. And thus away from its bloat. Being away from the "monastery" is clearly them cutting down on said bloat. And then you retards are claiming that they've doubled down on it when everything suggests they've done the opposite.
>>740803961I’ve heard the prospects are grim and we shouldn’t expect one this generation, but maybe AI will unleash a new era of jailbreaking
>>740790926Boycott brown games.Fuck it
>>740804081Yeah it screams vtuber.The small hat is doing most of the heavy lifting.With mods now you can make any Engage character acceptable now too.This live 2D shit is also cringe.
>>740803185Get a better haircut for starters
>>740804097That’s all headcanon on your part and there’s nothing to suggest a second hub. There’s the hub + a monopoly board game for resources.
>>740803547Nu-emblem started to get more popular when they introduced reclass so ISIS being the retard they are think everyone love this shit
A Switch 2 is currently worth about one standard week of working part-time hours at McDonalds.
>>740804081Live2d is old as dirt and fates used it over 10 years ago
>>740804028>I think there's good reason to be concerned about that when that's how it has worked in every game (Gaiden, SS, Awakening, Birthright/Revelation, SoV, 3H, Engage).None of those had a freely explorable world like that and were chapter-driven. Some optional content existed sure. But you were travelling the maps freely. It was following a path even if some of the games had some detours. Here the map and your own chosen path IS the game. And story and character content will be balanced between events on the map and whatever forced content is forced on you whenever your deadlines run out.
>>740804236Give me yours. I’m not buying one.
>>740803865>What's the issue?I want to play a Fire Emblem game, not monopoly.>Stepping on a fish or seed tile might take as little as seconds. Reaching the knights in upper left corner, could consume 12 of the aforementioned 172 turns. Take a minute to do. And then you've got a battle.Now do that multiple times every in-game month for every route. The cumulated time over the entire playthrough is the problem.
>>740803865Because this game is a course correction and will cram as much shit as 3H had.>Muh what about the criticism!?They aren't the fans of 3H they are aiming to. Normies have spoken: we want all that hub shit like in Persona.
>>740803615There will be combat and just like 3H you gonna play the same 5 maps over and over and over and over againReally fun
>>740804236I'm not buying a switch 2. I'm just not lol. It's not about the money. There's no point to it.FW could have easily been a a switch 1 game
>>740804229>and there’s nothing to suggest a second hubI never said or implied anything about a second hub. What the fuck are you talking about? >There’s the hub + a monopoly board game for resourcesWhy are you calling it a monopoly board? And as for the hub? If you're moving away from the hub, how the fuck are you meant to interact with said hub? You can only interact with the capital if you move to the capital. Which supposedly takes time. And not something you can even do unless you're close. And your goal is to reach the tiles and events that are away from the capital anyway. Do you think you'll be returning to the capital with every move you've made or something? That's retarded.
>>740804294You don't get something for nothing. If the free time events/nodes are carefully handcrafted, expect it to come at the expense of the campaign. I actually think that's worse. Imagine...open world Fire Emblem. Open map Fire Emblem? Sounds like crap.
>>740804236That's great but I'm not buying it for 1 game. I will continue to feed my tcg addiction instead
>>740804240Fates used it for a meaningless feature.Here is the key visual design they have decided on.In the trailers they do classic vtuber movements.Live2D should be relegated only to por games.
>>740804489lolyou'll get a handful of skirmish maps with no terrain and random enemy formations
>>740804552Extreme cope. That's literally how it just is. Not vtuber
>>740804464You made up a bunch of shit because you’re a cultist. The way will probably work is that you start at the capital, do all your chores there, then go to the monopoly map and move 1 square per turn, doing dungeons and battles and minigames, then return to the capital to finish up your chores. Nobody wants to do a bunch of grinding trash.
>>740804575Okay guys.Post all the minimaps you have found.So far I have only seen square shaped ones.
>>740803865I don't a fuck about your fish and seed I want to fight on a tactical grid with good map design why is that so hard to do.
>>740803796Have you ever considered Conquest might have done some things right? Or is your entire existence for the past decade being assraped because one Fire Emblem got reclassing right and you can't acknowledge that?
EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T A MENU OR A GRID SHOULD NOT BE IN A FIRE EMBLEM GAMEMENUGRIDFIRE EMBLEM
>>740803909your argument is disingenous because you are acting like the system has big limitiations when the reality the only limitaiton are the hoshidan classes. You can change all your units into any nohrian class pretty easily so if you want to have a run with everyone being wyvern riders there's nothing stoping you since heart seals + friendship seals make it an extremly easy thing to archive. Why does no one do this in conquest? Not because of these easily surpassed "limitations" but because of balancing and character stat diferences.
>>740804625Its not cope.Thats why no one cried when it was removed.Here is used to give life to vtuber style designs.
Nog emblem: we wuz kangz
>>740804630Yup. You probably talk to NPCs to start a bunch of quests, go out to fulfill said requests while also doing various grinding and dungeon-crawling, then come back and bring all the shit people asked for. Literal JRPG fetch quests.
>>740804236>>740804358Cool but i struggle with the idea. I would just be buying a console for a single game. I already have a PS5 and a semi-competent PC. But then again fucking FE
>>740804721>trying to gaslight I'm on to you.
>>740804352Why don't you think the game's "campaign content" content lies on the map? It seems like you think the map is all filler. Based on what? >>740804324>Now do that multiple times every in-game month for every route.How the fuck do you even know it happens every month? For all we know that's the start of an entirely new act, with the game taking on a different nature with each new act. Besides. If it really is a swift experience to move through the basic tiles, then doing it again wouldn't be a big deal at all, accumulated or not.
>>7408038653H fags will do literally anything except play satrategy game
>>740804765Shut up vtunigger.
>>740803961Get a job
>>740804705Grid emblem.
>Engage reclassing is too open>there are always infinite seals available>and you always have infinite gold>and you always have infinite bond fragments to get weapon proficiency>from the emblems that are available for every single map>plus everyone is a god tier juggernaut on every class
>>740804705Holy FUCK it’s the excel sheet gamer
>>740804575Every map looks fucking awful so far. Arena is just retooled and re-used for every route and is just a fucking square with new little obstacles. The outside is wide open plains with some rubble blocking the way.
>>740804662>I don't a fuck about your fish and seed I want to fight on a tactical grid with good map design why is that so hard to do.So you travel northwest or whatever on the map. Reach a town or whatever that has some story moment going on. And you get a battle encounter or whatever tied to it. And some unique item or character or something as a reward. What's supposed to be the problem? Why do you think it's just time consuming filler content?
>>740804778>How the fuck do you even know it happens every month?they wouldn't make this kind of overworld if you don't use it every month. you are retarded.>If it really is a swift experience to move through the basic tiles, the-I don't care, not Fire Emblem, fuck off
>>740804097You are so fucking stupid and coping right now its crazy
Tbf Engage has the best prototype for reclassing.Basically the only thing you need is to remove the ability to get new proficiencies or limit it to one per playthrough via supports and bam you have a reclass system that is open but also allows for restrictions based on the character natural abilities.Also for the love of god keep static weapon ranks!
>>740804705It frustrating that Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn and New Mystery of the Emblem all pretty much had perfect iterations of the battle preps as the kind of menu you should have between chapters yet that shit just got worse with each new game.
>>740804707>You can change all your units into any nohrian class pretty easilyNope. For example outside of special exceptions, no Nohrian females give outlaw, and no Nohrian males give wyvern rider. Even with your reduced scope that ignores half of the classes in the game as well as special classes like wolfskin, songstress, villager, and Nohr Noble, you still face limitations.
>>740799550Think we saw her brother with Cai
>>740802398>4 routesIt almost certainly will but hopefully said cutscenes will be less time wasting and ass.
>>740804236Not buying for 3h 2.0 not buying for Xenoblade 3H editionOnly smash could change my mind
>>740804841all true
>>740804780But if it's like that post suggests, then the game will primarily be about the gameplay parts.
>>740801779I thought Cai’s sister was the chick with glasses in the first trailer.
>>740804294The big map will reset every big chapter and you will have to do your dailies on it everytime.Gacha players will love this game
>Come into FE thread to cry about not wanting to buy a Switch 2 for one gameNigger. You either wait until a system has more than a handful of games you want to play before buying or shut the fuck up. Don't be a faggot going "Ah bloo bloo bloo! I won't be able to talk about it during the hype period! How can I enjoy games if I don't play them during the hype period?!" KYS
>>740805236kms
>>740804956>they wouldn't make this kind of overworld if you don't use it every month. you are retarded.What do you even think the game is? Why is it so difficult for you to imagine that the MAIN GAME is on the world map? And that the deadline limit can't just be a limitation so that you can't do everything. Not some bloat shit that repeats forever.
>>740804841>release engage>maddening is considered well balanced but reclassing is still an issue in terms of design>resource management exists for a good portion of the game>release free dlc items>gives you so many resources and you can't refuse it it's automatically applied to your playthrough>completely fucking ruined
>>740805169>fishing minigames and monopoly slop is gameplaygenuinely kys your kind ruined this franchise forever
>>740805270I'm not buying it shill. I will emulate it. Just like 3H.Make a game worth buying a switch 2 or shut the fuck up faggotnigger.
>that YEEHAW that plays during a song in both trailersWhat the hell is that? I need to hear this game's soundtrack already.
i dont mind minigames but adding so many secondary mechanics to fire emblem will obviously come at the detriment of the core tactics gameplay
>>740804464>Do you think you'll be returning to the capital with every move you've made or something? That's retarded.You will return to the capital once you run out of turn or when your free time end which mean a big story chapter is gonna play. Qfter that story chapter you return to your shitty monastery hub and repeat your free time task which include exploring the shitty map to gather resource and grind.You gonna do this 30+ times and if you wanna play everyone route you gonna do this 120+ times
>>740805489It's that shrimple. Why don't people understand this?
>>740805463>ShillI didn't say you should buy the S2 you dumbass. Have fun with all those oh so legit S2 emulators though! I'm sure you'll have a blast!
>>740805489Fire emblem hasn't had core tactical gameplay since the gba era
>>740805489it's copying 3h gameplay. there is no ruining an already terrible core gameplay.
>>740792498She will be the best lord I bet. Ungabunga lords always are.
I don't mind the mini games when they are irrelevant to actual gameplay but in three houses especially they were incredibly fucking important. I hope you like fishing for 3 hours on the fistfuls of fish day so you can max your professor level out very early on maddening. I hope you like working out every single fucking chapter in engage because it boosts your stats!!!
>>740804645They probably just gonna copy paste maps from 3H
>>740805612Seethe
>>740805419You have no idea what the fishing tiles are or if they even make you do a fishing minigame at all. For all we know you step on the fish tile and a text message appears that tells you that you got a random assortment of fish and it's over in a second. Or it is some fishing shit that takes 20 seconds or whatever. Who the fuck knows. We don't. But even then. You'll have moved past the tile. Instead of having to repeat it after every single chapter like in 3H. And why are you calling it monopoly slop just because you move through a map?
What if next CYL they vote in all the lords except Cai and then the 2nd place male spot is taken up by some random dipshit
>>740805352I'm looking at what the trailer is showing and you are inventing stuff. Right now we saw a whole 3H calendar system with focus on building your units every month until the big fight in the arena, not chapter maps on the overworld. You are coping hard, retard.
>>740805627>me when I lie
The thing that most worries me about>HERE'S A MONTH OF FREE TIME GO DO WHATEVER YOU WANTIs that it's going to lead to major discrepancies in players' power and so the main missions will be balanced assuming you're some brain damaged tard who did nothing the entire time.
>>740805694I don't care about gachaslop polls
>>740792873I'm not a SF fag so I only recently learned of Ingrid but I'm surprised I never saw people comparing Lysithea to her in all the FE threads I've been in. Lysithea is just her, appearance wise.
most people can't comprehend the fact that the majority of the game will take place outside of the colloseum because if you look at the trailer you can see that the first and final colloseum matches take place only 4 months apart.
>>740804358>FW could have easily been a a switch 1 gameLet’s be real, Switch 1 could barely run 3 Houses.
what's with the forced Cai hate ?
>>740805694those polls haven't mattered ever since feh stopped being one of the big gachas of the 2010s. it's irrelevant in the 2020s.
>>740804705Unironically this>but i want to spend time with my waifu :(Fuck off and kill yourself
>>740805661>I hope you like working out every single fucking chapter in engage because it boosts your stats!!!You're about to get some Engagefags on your ass for this one. Workout stops being relevant in Engage as soon as you unlock tonics/mess hall, but Engage DOES have its own brand of time-wasting bullshit that actually matters a lot, and is often downplayed.
>>740805692>For all we know you step on the fish tile and a text message appears that tells you that you got a random assortment of fish and it's over in a second.This guy has never played a jrpg in his life
I'm tired, boss. They have to be doing it on purpose at this point. They just refuse to make a game where they get everything right.
>>740795684Built for Cai
>>740805835>ForcedBuddy. Do I have news for you! People hated this guy since day 1.
>>740791030It doesn't. strictly because Theodora is pure sex.
>>740805835>>>forced
>>740805661Engage fags will seethe but this is true
YOU WILL ENJOY DOING CHORES IN THE NU-MONASTERY FOR 90 MINUTES EVERY CHAPTERYOU WILL ENJOY YOUR FISHING MINIGAMESYOU WILL ENJOY THE SHIT MAPS AFTER ALL OF ITYOU WILL ENJOY THE NEW NORMAL FOR FIRE EMBLEMAND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
>>740804757Wtf what is Marge Simpson doing in a strip club
>>740805835>forcedDay 1 hater here.
>>740805661>>740805954Workout is the same type of bonus as consuming a cooking/tonic.
In Kichikuou Rance you've got a time limit (though you aren't aware of how many turns you've got). And whether or not you go south, west, or north. Or even south-east. All alters the course of the game significantly. Gives you entirely different battles tied to what destinations you chose. And you get entirely unique rewards and chances to recruit entirely unique characters. Even the order of what locations you decide to visit first or last, changes the nature of destinations and game events that you ignored or postponed. Why are all of you taking it for granted that Fortune's Weave can't be structured similarly? Kichikuou Rance might be the greatest of all time so I'm not saying Fire Emblem of all things will be as good or anything. But conceptually. Structurally. Why are you people acting as if it's not even on the table that this is exactly the kind of thing the game is attempting? Or is Kichikuou Rance also "monopoly slop"?
>>740805835>forced
>>740805661or just feed alear a str tonic if you're missing a very specific one rounding threshold on that specific character and don't already have +2 from cooking. I've never done the stupid push ups mini game past chapter 4.
>>740805019You just made the Fates reclassing again.And>restrictions based on the character natural abilitiesWho cares?? I don't think you can hold me at gunpoint to tell me what are Diamant's or Boris' "natural abilities". They aren't Pokemon, they aren't supposed to be so role-locked. Just play Advance Wars or Hearts of Iron if you want a unit to only ever do one thing ever.>>740804931Cause for most people, it is just "grinding". Despite the "RPG Emblem" systems existing longer than the linear platformer-level system at this point, it is just filler content. People view Fire Emblem as something to master and complete and 100% S-rank in 3 hours, not an experience they make all their own. Despite permadeath and random leveling existing since the very beginning because the devs want (You) to have unique experiences, and the linear structures being more tech and design limitations than "what is best fit for Fire Emblem".
>>740804236If you play $580 to play a single game you're retarded.
I feel like playing a FE ironman or randomizer. Name one and I will go pirate it.
>>740805901the engagefags can suck my dick engages gameplay loop is awful, the roster is balanced horribly, emblems suck as a mechanic, and it's just people who are desperate for a crumb of old fire emblem but haven't actually played any of the games before awakening besides like fire emblem 7
I will keep saying awakeningfags ruined fire emblemFuck all of you for ruining a franchise I once loved I will never move on and I will be seething forever fuck you
>>740803961The best solution is getting a job and having money to spend in your hobbies.
>>740805818Lysithea if she realLysithea if she gives me JOI
>>740805910Koei Tecmo made 3H's story good
>>740805078>You still face limitationsWhy is that a good thing anyway? You're telling me that the limitations are the only thing stopping you from running CQ with a full Hoshido class gang?
>>740798196>>740798447>I would recommend azure moon because most of the games plot revolves around those charactersAzure Moon is literally just Dimitri's personal story and teaches you almost nothing about the world and won't be a good gateway into Fortune's Weave. The recommendation is actually Golden Deer if you want to play it to segue into FWAlso playing Deer first means you never have to play another route
>>740805901>someone says something wrong >you know it's wrong>preemptively UH OTHER ISSUE VAGUEPOSTthis is pathetic.
>>740806068No one gives a shit about your gooner man child simulator.
>>740792498>Theodora fans are starting to come out of the woodworkmy niggas
>>740805818What a slut, I bet she loves anal
>>740805910FW could be the FE to have both bad story and gameplay, that crazy
>>740806079I need an Ingrid to look down on me
>>740805818Lysithea/Ingrid threesome.
>>740806184Ok. Cool. But that doesn't mean that Fortune's Weave will be lame and gay. And not awesome with cool content on the map. Why the fuck do you see a huge map and assume it'll be nothing but shit content?
>>740805910>decent story>written by IS>memorable designs>half the game is disgusting brownLMAOThis is gonna be bad on all levels
most racist man alive chooses leda
>>740806201I like the Alucard look alike but will go for her route first, even if she comes attached with some ugly bastards I dont care about
Fortune’s Weave looks good to me but man I crave a return to monkey when it comes to between map activities.Like just please PLEASE give me a menu.
>>740806127>made 3H's story goodDid we play the same fucking game? Three houses was awfully written in every single route except for Blue Lions which was decently written but still had the big flaw of pushing aside all of the classmates to just focus on Dimitri post timeskip. Literally none of the early chapters are relevant to any of the classmates except for blue lions members (Sylvain and Ashe) but you still have to play them anyways. You fight nemesis for no fucking reason on golden deer because they didn't know what else to do and instead of fighting him on silver snow which would actually make sense you just fight...rhea? in the church route?
>>740806156Because limitations lead to interesting decisions. Not only are you deciding marriages and friendships based on the direct benefits to the characters themselves, but to their children. It leads you to deploying army compositions with characters you'd otherwise have benched because you have some support goal for them. In 3H you just mindlessly pump everyone through the same cookie-cutter class progressions and there's basically no opportunity cost.
>>740806068For me personally, the overworld "monopoly" map is the one thing that actually looks interesting about FW's gameplay. But not only do I not trust IS to pull it off well like your example but we already know everything surrounding it is basically 3H's systems so I lost my interest anyway.
>>740806286>half the game are delicious brown womenZAMNThis is gonna be kino on all levels
>>740806253Because its made for the 3H fans that liked the hub stuff.Most of the criticism came from the people who don't like hubs.Your argument is flawed as it comes from an idea its intebded to improve based on the feedback from people they are not appealing to.
SEX WHTH BROWNS
>>740806173If I don't preempt his mistake, his one flub will dominate the discussion and you will latch onto it as a convenient strawman to dismiss any criticism of Engage's bloated hub. I've seen it time and time again. Nobody wants to admit that while an improvement over the monastery, it's still bad.
>>740805698>not chapter maps on the overworldThe game's "chapters" clearly progresses whenever the deadlines are met. But why assume that the map isn't full of content that is equivalent to genuine chapter maps. And that whether or not you do them affects the outcome or nature of the chapters when they actually come?
>>740805901>Engage DOES have its own brand of time-wasting bullshit that actually matters a lot, and is often downplayedThis but My Castle.
>>740805489Its ok because modern fire emblem fans hate the core tactics gameplay and wish the games would just be sims simulator
>>740806402Brown is shitFlat is shitTomboys a shit
>>740795664she actually looks uncanny in that one scene in the trailer where she had it off imo
>>740806252calm down, Claude. Leave some for the rest of us. You already have Hilda
>>740806429yeah the hub sucks and would be dramatically improved if all the trash picking was automatic. nobody is arguing otherwise. quit boxing the demons in your head.
>>740806068Kichikuou has an event flag system, no main area and no monthly calendar system. Each point on the map is a town or a dungeon, not a fishing mini-games or grindy skirmishes. Also it's about conquering territories, nothing to do with FW.You are a clown.kill yourself.
>>740806321>You fight nemesis for no fucking reason on golden deerTbf it was to give GD something. We know for a fact that originally snow was the first route then am, then I'd and finally cf
>>740806068At risk of sounding like "the guy who has only seen boss baby"-meme the world map thing reminds me of Pathfinder Kingmaker where there also was hidden time limits during each chapters for you to go around and tackle sidequests/skirmishes/mini-dungeons before doing the main quests.Because of the kingdom management system also running on time limits, time management was pretty important.The truth is it's hard to guess what the system will be like with how little info we have.
>>740806586*gd
>>740806446Fates was literally the last game before hubshit and dungeon exploration grabbed the series by the nuts and viciously squeezed. People have to damage-control the narrative to place some of the blame at its feet in retrospect, but My Castle is like a summer breeze compared to what SoV, 3H, Engage and brought to the table.
>>740806419But not even the fans of 3h ever asked for more monastery chores and less gameplay. So why assume they're doubling down on it instead of having listened to feedback and cut down on it? And again. If you move away from the capital. And can't even return without travelling back. Then how can you end up wasting time there all the time? In 3H you were sent back to the monastery after every single fucking battle and then all the chores reset and you were pushed to do them all over again. Every single time. But this game is obviously not going send you back to the middle of the map after event. It seemingly gives you freedom until you reach the deadline. And then it might send you back to the capital for the next fixed story beat. Hopefully influenced by whatever you did on the map before the deadline.
>>740806681My castle is literally where most of the cancer infecting fe cane from
Raiding villages in Dagda for tan women to bring back to my castle in Fodlan
>>740806586Yea but it's still written horribly and makes no sense for what the route is trying to represent LOLGolden deer needed something because it was poorly written and serves very little purpose besides establishing fodlan and the regions outside of it
>>740806748At least you could customize them and play in other peoples castles. nuhubs are just static time wasters
Reminder that you can thank Maeda for the absolute state of FE hubshit, because FE12 was the first game that had non-prep hub activities (How's Everyone) that ballooned into what hubs are today.
>>740806748My Castle takes about as long as Tellius base preps. Actually it's probably quicker because you don't need to constantly restock everyone's inventory with fresh weapons. In summary, you're insane.
Lol you can tell how mangs is completely dissapointed that its just 3H 2.0
>>740806563I'm basing this off of real incidents that have happened. Engagefags can be rabid and organized around the Hub Question.
>>740806156It's a lot of people confusing "limitation breed creativity" with the idea that only the creators can ever give a "curated experience". Any form of freedom is scary, especially to Nintendo fans whose only experience with video games as a medium is the very tight, theme park-design of classic games like Ocarina of Time or Super Mario Galaxy. Because they don't explore other games because they view them as lesser, they are unaware at stuff like Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest Job/Vocation systems, or Trails and the Orbal System, or Shin Megami Tensei's demon fusion, the vast majority of very freeing player customization systems in RPGs. Hell, they barely even acknowledge Paper Mario's badge system. Or other SRPGs like Heroes of Might & Magic, Crusader Kings, Brigandine, Langrisser, pick your poison here.Basically they don't view freedom ever breeding creativity. Again, they think Fire Emblem as literally chess, a game meant to be solved.>>740806681My Castle is a lot more a non-entity, it really does only have the shops, the farms, and maybe an optional minigame to its name. You don't do supports there directly, you can only gift when they want. There's not much maintenance to it, but there's also very little to actually do in the first place that is ever worth it. It might as well just be a menu, especially as it just doesn't have anything to see or hold onto.But it is fair to argue it is the prototype of the "walkabout menus" people hate compared to the PoR/RD menus.
>>740806838How's Everyone? in FE12 was basically the equivalent of the base convos in the Tellius games. That's not comparable to the hub shit at all.
>>740806856He will be okay.The game will probably have another library he can use to strem himself reading.
>>740806917>Shin Megami Tensei's demon fusion, the vast majority of very freeing player customization systems in RPGsFunny you mention this because SMT IV is like a perfect example of what too much freedom does. Every demon is just a different png with 1 of 3 statspreads you assign whatever the fuck you want to with zero restrictions.
>>740806856isn't mangs like a pedophile or something or abusive or some shit
>>740806445>But why assume that the map isn't full of content that is equivalent to genuine chapter maps.Because it wasn't shown in the trailer, what was shown is a hub and monthly chapter maps just like 3H. Take into consideration there is 4 routes and what IS is realistically capable of making and there is no way your wish of a map full of content is real. Stop coping
>>740806309Hell man, I'd take a Kamidori style "hub" where there's shit to do between maps but it effectively is just a fancy menu.
>>740806931No, FE12 has an actual convos menu that's like the base convos in Tellius. How's everyone is time gated gachashit that evolved into Awakening's Barracks, and then became interactive with My Castle/Monastery/Somniel.
>>740806068In KR a spot on the map is basically set of numbers. Is it a city, local stats, etc. In FE every battleground is a whole map. So like, yeah they could do that, make 400 maps and populate the world with them and make it open-ended... but do you really think they can pull it off? I don't think so. Like I don't think IS is competent enough to do this. Even KR isn't exactly non-linear, once you start a set of events they progress in the same order. SR is the same way, you can technically go wherever you want but each country has its set of events, there's only some cases where it matters which order you battled the countries in (like for Takeda taking land from Hojo or Uesugi, or Mouri conquering Akashi)Maybe I don't have all the context, but from the way the map looks, my guess is this: in Engage you can explore the map and pick stuff up after you're done fighting in it. Now instead of that, they make it to so beating a map unlocks connected locations, which can be used to acquire stuff. Probably without having to actually go there. Like you assign someone to a fishing spot and they fish.It would be like pathfinder in that case as >>740806616 said, like winning fights in a location in wrath of the righteous then assigning a mission to gather resources from it
>>740806068Just to let you know im saving this post and will be ready to blow you the fuck out in 2 months once the FE direct drop.
>>740806584>no monthly calendar systemWhat even is a "monthly calendar system"? What's the "system"? Kichikuou Rance has a turn system. And the calendar is but another representation of turns. >Each point on the map is a town or a dungeon, not a fishing mini-games or grindy skirmishes. You don't know if the map are full of grindy skirmishes or properly designed encounters. You've just decided the game is shit and is for some reason refusing to consider that the map might actually have good content on it. >Also it's about conquering territories, nothing to do with FW.Whether or not the game is about conquering territories or not, has nothing at all to do with whether or not the tiles on the map actually has got proper content or not. You could sincerely remove the territory-conquest aspect of Kichikuou Rance and still retain almost all the scripted content of the entire game. You're still moving through the map and encountering unique content. And I have no idea why you think that FW can't be having that.
>>740806931Yes and no? You can take it as a double-edge sword depending on what you actually view as "chores". If ANY form of non-character maintaining mechanic in these hubs are a waste of development time and resources, i.e. fishing or converting jailed recruits, then you can say How's Everyone is the start of useless natter. If you think that as something you can take or leave, it doesn't matter, then pretty much ONLY 3H counts as the start, as pretty much everything but that (and maybe breaking pots for silver and gold coins in Echoes) is just that: very fluffy mechanics that give minor points for minor investments.Again, it depends on what you view as chores and useless mechanics. You can probably say something like the one-star Base Conversations in the Tellius games as chores under this logic.>>740807075The thing about demons in SMT is that they are fundamentally disposable, extensions of the main hero. They aren't meant to have much defined character or roles, that's why there's several spinoffs like Last Bible where they can't even level up. And even then, vanilla SMT IV is pretty much as bad as that idea get, as every other game, future and past, goes hard on providing unique roles and identities. All without trudging too much on your ability to customize and reward your creativity.
>>740806068>Why are you people acting as if it's not even on the table that this is exactly the kind of thing the game is attempting?It's too complicated for the developers of fire emblem. Let's be realistic, they can't even figure out putting obstacles on the map half the time. People get hype if they see the devs remembering all their own mechanics exist. They are not going to create a nonlinear world conquest simulator with event flag driven outcomes. I'm glad to be surprised but cmon.
>>740806068I miss being this hopeful and naive.Modern game dev has bloated out to a level that makes what you’re describing impossible.
>>740806917You are the perfect example of someone downplaying MC. Don't forget playing sim city with the buildings! I don't remember that part of the Somniel.
>>740807263Somehow you refuse to look at what the trailer is showing you and the fact that it's a game made by IS as a sequel to 3H. THIS GAME WILL NOT BE LIKE KICHIKUOU, WAKE UP
>>740807528He's not downplaying it, he's just right. Keep coping about it. My Castle is the dying breath of an old way.
>"We killed Ferdie teacher">"So?"
>>740807528You literally place like 6 buildings wherever the fuck you want it doesn't matter and you're done. They're just menus for the rest of the game.
>>740807631>it's okay when Fates does itWell, at least you didn't run the "you don't have to so it doesn't count" play this time.
>>740807232>So like, yeah they could do that, make 400 maps and populate the world with them and make it open-ended... but do you really think they can pull it off? I don't think so. Like I don't think IS is competent enough to do this.I'm not saying that every tile on the FW map is a unique battle-map with unique content. But it's pretty fucking obvious that it will have unique content on there. And on your way there you'll be moving through various army/resource-strengthening/gathering tiles on the way there (and no, there is nothing that suggests that it's obviously going to waste your time 3H-style on every such tile). And the path chosen strengthens your army in preparation in various ways before you reach the unique battle map that has its own story tied to it. And when you win (or maybe even lose depending on how cool the game wants to be), you get unique characters or items or abilities etc, etc, and other events and story parts might be affected too. And the limit makes sure you can't do everything.
>>740807738I don't even know what you're rambling about, fagtron. Nobody in their right fucking gourd thinks My Castle is nearly as big of a time waste as Monastery or Somniel. You're fucked.
At the end of the day, you gotta realize all this is just the end form of the cancer that has been infesting this franchise for the past 15 years. FE has always been at odds between trying to follow its vision as a strategy series, and following what the normalfag "masses" want for sales. And normies don't care about all that strategy garbage, they just want to play dolls, they want to do menial tasks and have number go up, they want their mindless gameplay with little consequences. The series had to make its first big concession to this crowd when the series almost died with Awakening, and then KT went all out with the filler garbage with 3H, and now IS is copying their homework as much as possible, in hopes they can keep the gold rush going. At this point, the strategy aspect of this series is a mere sideline to the social sim and grindshit. Something seriously needs to change, or this series is genuinely fucked.
>>740807704Oop, right on cue. Yeah it doesn't matter. Have fun with the invasions that also don't matter because you never do them because you don't actually like playing the game more than the bare minimum.
>>740807741I don't see why any of that is obvious. Again I might be missing some info but it really could be as simple as, reach this node to make the node usable, assign a character to gain x thing from the node. Which is basically the pathfinder map. It's a fine system but doesn't say anything too deep about the whole game.
>>740807486Yeah, there's no way this game is gonna be Rance or Crusader Kings. Barely a Brigandine. It probably just gonna be mostly filler content as that is simplest thing to make. But I bet there will be plenty of worthwhile scenarios and encounters anyway, like optional dungeons and shortcuts to each hub.>>740807528>>740807631Note, I am not actually praising the content of My Castle. When I say it could have been a menu, I mean that there is NOTHING TO MY CASTLE that made the system make sense. At most, putting the buildings in ways to deal with Invasions is kind of neat, but there's limited invasions in even Revelations and it just multiplayer fodder for the rest of the time. And is optional.3H got way more in your face about its hub because they want the feeling that everything actually matters, even when realistically it didn't. People criticized the pointlessness or multiplayer-slop of almost every other system in Fates' My Castle.
>>740807917You think people don't like the tactics part of the gameplay? That's what we want more of, nigger. Invasions are fine. Engage doesn't have invasions.
>>740791030>cram nappy orc skinned creatures as your heroes >game flops
>>740807917>Have fun with the invasions that also don't matter because you never do them because you don't actually like playing the game more than the bare minimum.I do do the invasions but only for support points. You can skip them and be no worse for wear if you don't like them, because the rewards are utter dogshit.
>>740807117>Because it wasn't shown in the trailer, what was shown is a hub and monthly chapter maps just like 3H.It also showed us that we had 172 fucking map-movements to move across the world with. If you're moving AWAY from the capital, and don't return until 180 fucking moves later. Then why assume that you'll be wasting time in the capital all the fucking time like you did in the 3H monestary? Do you think you'll be chugging through the 180 moves like you did 3H's school-week schedule or something? Why not assume that the 180 moves is like a significant part of the game and that you'll be using said moves to find and engage with real-deal game-content? Content away from the capital. And then you only engage with the capital whenever you cross paths with the capital from moving past it or whenever a deadline ends at the start of a new chapter.
>>740807978Imagine if the monastery and somniel had a building element where you set up defenses and created your own map to fight invasions on... VGH what covld have been.....
>>740808083Why are you doing things that are unnecessary? Just play the damn invasion.
>>740807937>I don't see why any of that is obvious.I don't see why the map being full of generic filler content of no-worth is somehow obvious. That'd be fucking ridiculous and nothing in the trailer suggested it's the case.
Evens i early promote FW cain odds i early promote FW abel
Fates chads own this thread. FW cucks want a goonship simulator board game lol !
I'm just here for the gay BBC porn that's coming.
>>740808083Engage actually does have its own build a map maker hidden away. It isn't with the Somniel directly, but it is one of the multiplayer features you can do. Basically an import of Heroes' Aether Raids.
>>740808148>here comes the invaders! let's fuck 'em up!
Anyway MC started it
Let people huff the copium about the overworld map actually being grand strategy levels of complex, it's the only cope they have left after seeing that the rest of the gameplay is just 3H2.
