From sold out to utterly irrelevant. How did Valve drop the ball so hard? Was it locking it behind the Steam DRM?
Where do you guys think these threads come from?
indeed it's a bad controller
>>740792250Someone that hates Valve for whatever reason. So many controllers out there (more expensive even) but this one gets a lot of hate for ((no reason)).
>>740792341indeed sir valve very bad please redeem the gamesir and 8bitdo ok bitch
>>740792036>From sold out to>look inside>still sold out>200 dollar bids for used controllers>250 dollar listings for new controllers>reservation made the first hour they became available, still no news about production
>>740792409those companies have more experience than this one on making hardware
I like my one it's nice
>>740792409The chinks already BTFO Valve at handhelds so why not also at controllers?
>>740792514>>740792556oh is it like a culture war thing? le epic chinese own evil american company?
>>740792409Unironically this though. Nobody wants or needs a controller stuffed with shit they'll never use. They want good buttons, sticks, triggers, d-pad, ergonomics. And you can get all of that (probably better desu) for a fraction of the price from Chang. Steam controller is for conspicuous consumers only
>>740792682Being a rational consumer is now an evil leftist conspiracy. Thanks obama
>>740792682Only retarded Valve cum slurpers think there is a "culture war". Fact of the matter is that the chinks sell you more valuable shit. Only some patriot Amerilard would disagree.
>>740792916post your eyes
>>740793014Yeah I like said an absolute retarded Amerilard playing war games on /v/.
i dont even care i just hope this kills xinput for an actual sane alternativefucking windows xp tier shit
>>740792741>probablyAgain, you don't actually own one, you don't talk to people who own one, you're just making these threads to uh... justify your purchase?I don't care what third party chinese controller you use, but the Steam Controller works for me and it works for everyone I've talked to.If you're making an anti-Valve thread, make an anti-Valve thread, but don't sling some nonsensical bullshit. Now go ahead and disprove what >>740792440 said, because that's the only post in this thread you haven't responded to.
>>740792741If that were true, then most people would get a controller with one stick, a touchpad, no d-pad and a gyro or alternatively they would get a controller with a d-pad and 6 face buttons, but instead they get the Dualshock or 360 style dual analog + d-pad controller that is only good as a combination controller.People WANT all-in-one slop, it is convenient and stokes FOMO, it's the entire reason why the Steam Controller 1.0 had the garbage stick and awkward face button layout in the first place instead of some the slightly earlier superior designs.
>>740792036The steam drm was indeed a killer
>>740792250That one super dedicated epic shill who came back a year ago after a few years of absence
valve are an indie company that just shouldn't be doing anything but janny'ing for steam.
>>740792036I'm playing Bonga with it right now
>>740792036>Locked it behind DRMMy nigger you can download 3rd party software to configure the controller if you want to, by definition it is not locked down to specific software. >Having to use software is DRMRequiring software is a requirement due to limitations of modern game design, not a desire to lock the controller down to specific software. Every controller that has more buttons than Xinput supports requires software to configure those buttons.>But it should just work with xinput, I don't need the extra buttons/featuresWhy would you buy the controller in the first place if you didn't want or care about the features that it offers. There are basic controllers readily available, you don't have to buy the steam controller. Anyone who buys the steam controller understands you need software to use its extra features. The complaint about it requiring software to use at all is moot, because you need software to use the extra features, which is the main reason to buy the controller in the first place.>Doesn't work with Gamepass.There are documented ways to make Gamepass games work with steaminput, or if you use 3rd party software it just works (without the features). Blame Microsoft for not having goypass games not be a standard exe that steam can hook onto.
>>740792036It was only available for 30 minutes and you had to fight Steam's bugged system to even get one, it's been weeks and there's still no news about when the reserved restock is happening. Barely anyone owns one so they're not going to talk about it.
which of the le ebin e-sports tourney fighting pro pad is the comfiest for 2D games with minimal command codes required like SOTN or BNcurrently eyeing the D6 after hearing heaps of shit about 8bitdo quality control
>>740792250It's an anti-Linux indian. He accidentally forgot to crop his reddit name out of a screenshot of one of his posts a few years back when he posted on /g/, so people checked his post history, and he posted on the linuxsucks sub as well as a bunch of india-related ones. He shows up in every Deck and Linux thread to spread false info
>>740792524SameThing just does everything you need it to. Battery lasts forever, comfortable to hold, some games really benefit from a few ease of access buttons.Wish they'd add an SDL passthrough you could still configure in steam input though
>>740794115>Blame Microsoft for not having goypass games not be a standard exe that steam can hook onto.Do they really? Lol and valve gets the monopoly accusations. What absolute scumbags.
>>740792036I have never used the trackpads on my 'eck outside desktop mode
>>740795231Literally the only thing I want is to be able to chance the sound it makes when you drop it (assuming thats even true, I haven't tried because i'm not retarded).It'd be funny to make it play various game over or death sounds or something
I had been using my Steam Deck as a controller on my PC through some work-around, so I was always looking forward to this so I didn't need to deal with the hassle that method gives.Just got it yesterday, and it's pretty much exactly what I wanted, a less bulky way to use the Steam Deck's controls.I won't be using it for everything, I have a 8bitdo Pro 3 for games that are built with regular controllers in mind, but it'll be my go-to for any games that would regularly require a mouse and keyboard.
>Steam DRMIf the program uses SDL you don't need steam, I already tried it with 4 different emulatorsduckstationPCSX2RPCS3Shad Ps4All these emulators recognized the controller without the need for Steam
The vast majority of players would make no use of the touchpads. Yeah they're awesome to use, but for example no gamer would pick this up over playing with a mouse. Touchpads work only on the Steam Deck for obvious reasons.KMB is for KMB games. Controller is for controller games. You'll never make a controller that serves both purposes.
>>740792250The Jannies (pejorative for all administrators, not just what official capacity that "Janitors" specifically are assigned, Janny about to cry about this post) are a bunch of nintendorks that like to imagine there being a console war between Valve and Nintendo with Nintendo somehow "winning" this.There's also the rampant antishilling because every other company is so pathologically allergic to not being an asshole to the people that pay them they see the only strategy to gain a foothold is astroturfing that Steam is somehow as bad as them rather than offering better service.That's not to say there aren't problems with Steam, or Valve, there are.But largely the people bitch moan and complaining about it don't know this, both because they're shills that don't actually play vidya on PC and also they don't use steam as an actual user.Where you'd realize that "needing" SteamInput and the overlay is only really a problem because certain publishers are niggers and intentionally break the overlay to point at Valve and say>HAY LOOK DIS IS BAD THIS THING WE SPECIFICALLY PREVENT FROM RUNNING BAD >:)Because there's no real reason they're doing it other than to be an asshole.
Im playing once jpon a katamari with the trackpads right now
>>740792036>How did Valve drop the ball so hard?Because there are cheaper and always readily available options out there that do the same thing?
>>740792036https://gamesir.com/collections/pc-controllers/products/gamesir-g7-pro-aimlabs-editionhttps://gamepadla.com/gamesir-g7-pro-8k.htmlThis is the best controller on the market with the fastest all round specs and latency.>b-buh no touch padno care, gamesaaar beating every single controller on the market. Benchod
>>740795316Reminder that they've been trying and failing to force people into a new executable format since windows 8 (maybe 7, but I could be remembering wrong).Literally all it does is running the same binary but with a bunch of drm lockout shit.
PLES BUY THE GAMESAAR
>>740792250does doro think? has she the capability?
>>740798659
>>740792250Shut your mouth saarThis is Canadian thread
I went back to my dualsense after a few days I like the haptics better and I don't have any use for the track pads.
Also I know there was already more "subtle" shilling for chink no name brands but>mention antishilling and shills>immediately drops the act of pretending to be a real person and just starts spamming ads for a chinkshit controller angrilyThis board sucks
>>740793356>making threadsDo you think people who disagree with you are some kind of amalgamation that collectively is making threads together. That's some serious schizo shitAnd my judgement is partly from past experience using a Steam Deck, which had shite controls esp the d-pad, from the fact that I can again buy a controller that is widely regarded as excellent and which undoubtedly has a better d-pad just eyeballing it (cross d-pad is cuck shit) for less than 1/3 of the price, and yes from reading people's impressions of it and other controllers, especially people who try a lot of controllers (typically people who review controllers)There is no need to spend £85 on a controller to make an opinion. In fact I'd argue that 'people spending £85 on a controller' is a group that self-selects for profound retardation. I have a controller from China that cost £25 and which performs vastly better than any first-party controller, so why would I spend £85 to buy from a company that has never previously put out a good controller? Am I meant to be fucking stupid or something?
>>740794619Not that I don't believe you, but how do you connect the thread where he accidentally included his reddit name to this thread and conclude it's the same poster?
>>740798963It is kinda funny thoughValve just kinda ate their entire niche
>>740792409Gamesir > Gulikit > Flydigi > Literally who chang controllers > 8bitchdoYou can clearly see who invests more R&D and is willing to source out the latest hardware and not rely on absolute shill reviews. 8bitdo will never be good.
>>740793458People buy the gamepad type that has the standard amount of buttons that games are designed for and a familiar layout because they were not bashed ten times in the head by a big rock prior to having the option
The problem is all valve products are only applicable to the tiny consumer market of "complete retards who will eat up anything valve buys"Don't get me wrong, I have an index and a steamdeck, but I would never ever buy this piece of shit controller, nor would I buy their retarded apple pro headset or their console. But a steamcuck would.
>>740799638huh?
>>740799638tendies and steamies are the same thing.
>>740799716Factual, retarded console fanboys are a plague across gaming, it's just unfortunate valve managed to consolify a niche in pc gaming, and sell overpriced, low quality, console-locked hardware that idiots will salivate over.
>>740798985>Do you think people who disagree with you are some kind of amalgamation that collectively is making threads together.no but i can recognize patterns and the fact that normal people (especially outside of here) do not care this much over valve or controllers>And my judgement is partly from past experience using a Steam Decki own both and think the steam controller definitely has a different and better feel to it>There is no need to spend £85 on a controller to make an opinionyeah but you do need to own one to have an informed opinionHOWEVER if strong opinions on shit i don't own is allowed, i'm gonna take the side of the company that makes good software and has broadly improved their hardware ever since the first steam machine over the notoriously untrustworthy group that is third party chinese controller sellers
>all of 4chan ever since they removed the IP counter
>$150 controller locked to the steam ecosystem unless you jump through hoops with custom firmware/softwareOr you can buy a $50 8bitdo that does everything better except trackpads.
>>740792036inverse the thumbstick and the d-pad ffs
>>740800051the ip counter did not in any way effect this
>>740798963I can't imagine having so much buyer's remorse that I develop actual paranoid schizophrenia kek
>>740800072>except trackpadsso not "everything better" then
>>740800146Yes my brown ESL friend, that is what "except" means.
>>740800072Trackpads are garbage anyway you can tell gaben is a fat fucking ball mouse user with this bullshit.
>>740800146Ah, those trackpads that I will definitely be using for games where I would normally use a gamepad. That's a real & honest usecase that people have
Steam badChina goodSimple as
>>740800146Objectively better, because it doesn't have trackpads.
>>740800146Trackpads are worthless for pretty much every modern game. They are only good for older games without native controller support and even then m+kb is still superior.
>>740800124samefagging always existed but the IP counter made it more obvious that it's just one guy talking to himself
>>740800410rarely. the ip counter was a newfag thing anyway, they only added it in, like, 2018 maybe? i don't remember anymore
>>740800072>8bitdoshit
>>740792036I saw the post from someone who reserved there's a month ago and they still haven't gotten the email to order it.I hope valve didn't do something retarded like box the controller in with some steam machine sku that includes a controller. They can just ship you two boxes if you buy the console set and no controllers are tied up with the steam machine.
>this successful controller i've never used is bad because... uh...What a pointless thread.
>>740800410IP counters don't help when you've got dozens of 'engagement experts' chained to different computers. It actually only helps them.
>>740798985this thirdie stressing out over £85.
>>740793067>Playing war games on /v/Props, does more gaming than the regular /v/enizen of this board. Gotta give it to him.
>>740793067HELL YEAH I'M PLAYING WAR GAMES
I'm getting close to not caring and canceling my reservation. Valve fucked up and are not doing enough to fix anything.
>>740801134Certified bruh moment
having two trackpads is amazing for VN’s or top down games
>>740792250Pirates who are angry that Steam offers a better service than piracy, they mostly leach ideas off others for hating Valve, that's why you see these things go on for so long, it transfers hands from paid propaganda employees to furious pirates desperate for an own.Their goal is similar to Satan, the idea is to spread toxicity and hopefully turn over enough people that they can defeat the good guys.
>>740800315I don't think this low IQ shit right here is ever going to end. If we took this as gospel you wouldn't get 8bitdo or gamesaar or any controller at all because muh mouse and keyboard. Once this anon started to lose the argument, the whole premise that you're playing these games from your couch had to disappear, yet you should also buy a normal controller because mom said contradictions are ok.
People liked the Steam Controller 1 specifically because track pads are objectively better than analog. They prioritised analog positioning over trackpads so the SC2 is completely worthless.
>>740800668Because it costs several times as much as options that do everything that people (who aren't bad-faith schizophrenics) actually want from a gamepad at an extremely high level of quality? Sorry, am I arguing with actual illiterates here>>740800787If you're making this argument, honestly, you're just being a fag>>740800728Talking of engagement experts chained to computers – you can purchase the Gamesir Nova Lite 2 from certified retailers at a low, low price! Much gooder than that landfill bait Gabe shat out onto the market. Game On, Sir(TM)
>>740801448What you're talking about is a textbook case of survivor bias where people who had a use for the SC1 and primary touchpads bought one and it served their needs well. What you didn't see was everyone else who ignored it and gave no opinion on it. Valve wanted to make a general use controller. If the SC1 is better for you they aren't hard to find.
>>740792514And Valve still beats them. Pretty sad.>>740792556Which of these "superior" chinkhelds have trackpads again? I must have missed that.
>>740801372The other guy is at least capable of stringing sentences and using some kind of (albeit retarded) logic but i think you might actually just have early onset dementia. It's not even worth arguing with you because you don't read or understand what's being said in the first place
Why do people "shill for free"? Why would you try to increase sales of something you don't actually care about if you're not being paid to do it? Don't we call that "fanboying"?
>>740801660
>>740801372M+KB isn't the best input for every game. Try playing FH6 on M+KB and tell me how it goes.What a stupid post.
>>740792036I've noticed a lot of people on /v/ seem to genuinely think Gamesir is an Indian company just because of the name, and that taints their entire perception of the products.
>wanting features beyond xinput's limitations makes you a bad faith schizophrenicJust another day on /v/.
>>740801921Yeah, why do people talk about what tey like without getting paid for it? How else could they know it's worth talking about?
>>740801818If you understood me you would be correct. You're in plato's cave.
>>740802003I don't think everyone recognising them as a Chinese company will improve their reputation much. Even then, things like MadCatz have done extreme damage to the concept of 3rd party controllers
>>740792741>Nobody wants or needs a controller stuffed with shit they'll never use.If that's how you feel about the trackpads, go ahead and don't buy one. No one is forcing you. But keep in mind that there are people who do find them useful and thus like the SC.>>740798985>In fact I'd argue that 'people spending £85 on a controller' is a group that self-selects for profound retardationNot when that controller has these features. It's more than worth the money, even if I think it could've been cheaper.>I have a controller from China that cost £25 and which performs vastly better than any first-party controllerOnly console first party controllers. It gets raped by the SC.>a company that has never previously put out a good controller?Yeah I see you're just a retard. It's not your fault that you can't see the value of the trackpads.
>>740801813My dude are you sexually aroused by trackpads. Shut the fuck up. Noone cares about your gay ass trackpads. Do you work at a trackpad factory. Is your entire family financially reliant on trackpads? Are your kids going to starve to death without fucking trackpads?!? Shut the FUCK up about trackpads. Jeaus fucking christ
>>740800410No, IP counter or not, it's blatantly obvious when people are samefagging.It's why it's really obvious on shit like twitter, forums, or boards with IDs too.On principle it shouldn't have been removed, but it's typically blatantly obvious when people are samefagging.Especially now that /v/ is dead as fuck and mostly populated with autists that think they can run ops.
>>740802003It's deserved if you didn't ask someone who was fluent if "gamesir" sounded retarded in english or not.
>>740802162Sure, but I think more people know now that Chinese production quality is far better than it was in the past. I've been gaming over 30 years and would've never used a Chinese controller, but I decided to give the G7 Pro a try a few months ago and the quality is far higher than the premium first-party controllers and now I'm convinced Chinese manufacturing is just far ahead of anything in the west.
>>740802003There really isn't that much different between the Indians and the Chinese online.At least to the people's opinions you're trying to sway.
>>740798190>no gamer would pick this up over playing with a mouseWhy not? I do because I find sitting on the couch with a controller more comfortable than sitting up at a desk with a mouse. I don't play any competitive games where I absolutely must be at 100% peak performance so 90% is good enough for me.
>wins by just existing>still cheaper>buttons are quiet>better rumble>better dpad>also works on your nintendood devices
>>740802304This guy's >>740794619 post now feels more plausible. The seething, undying hatred of people who reject minimalism and want controllers with more than standard features in addition to relentless worship of the Chinese.>I think more people know now that Chinese production quality is far better than it was in the past.Believe me, Temu has made sure that's not gonna happen.
>>740802315Were you raised by a single mother? Are you on HRT? Too many anons losing arguments immediately revert to high school girl reptile brain, and their last gambit is convince you that their opinion is consensus and you have to fall in line or face imaginary ostracization.
>>740798524>no trackpads>does the same thingRetard. Kill yourself.>>740798659>>b-buh no touch pad >no careSorry but I care and I simply won't buy an outdated controller that's lacking basic features. I'm sorry you're this retarded and brown.
>>740802315oh no little homo gonna blow a fuse and a few dudes while hes at it lmao
>>740798190>>740802767He can't play games on the couch because his mom and her boyfriends
>>740792036gibe 500 dorra steam deck again valveso i can buy it to spite sony and mspls release deck 2 for 600 dorra with 60 fps instead of 240p upscaled 24 fpslol
>>740802869>wins by just existing Lmao.>still cheaperBarely. Saving 10 bucks isn't worth losing trackpads, capacitive sticks and 2 extra back buttons.>buttons are quietLiterally does not matter.>better rumbleBarely matters. Not worth the tradeoff.>better dpadLmao.>also works on your nintendood devicesWhy the fuck would I ever own a nintendo device?
>>740802879People just have to try a G7 Pro for themselves, there's no other way to convince them a Chinese controller could be so good.
>>740802869>no track pads for precision aiming
>>740792036i know one brown retard that bought 2 and then never even fucking used them. He's not selling them either. Brain rot.
>>740802869https://gamesir.com/products/gamesir-cyclone2-white?variant=44836490313962
>>740802645
no trackpads, no buyit really is that simple
>>740803317Like I said, I can't blame you for doubting.
>>740803251unlike your nigger ass i have tried trackpads for aiming and they don't work well at all unless you enjoy being inferior on purposeyou are confusing gyro with trackpads, gyro is the only controller scheme better than sticks on a controller, trackpads are for navigating around menus and not fucking shooting
>>740801792I think the people who ignored it are brain damaged. The right analog has been such a disaster for gaming that games literally play themselves. Trackpads are objectively more versatile, accurate, and faster than analog. Shitters are terrified of trackpads because they need games to play themselves. Not that it matters, outside of sportsball, there isn't a single genre controllers excel at. They were always designed for mass adoption and portability.
>>740802315I just think they're neat and I like how they let me play more games and better than just sticks.Why are (You) so obsessed with them? Did trackpads kill your mom? Rape your dad? Eat your dog? Why does a controller that offers trackpads for people who want them simply existing throw you into such a seething rage?
Muh trackpads are the only thing valve cultists have left.
>>740803426Trackpads aren't supposed to replace gyro for aiming, but to complement it by replacing sticks. This way you can flick to turn much faster, more like mouse, and then you use gyro the same way you do normally. Sticks + gyro are maybe 70% of the way to mouse because not being able to turn around fast is a massive weakness. Trackpad + gyro is essentially as good as mouse.The trackpads are also useful as touch menus for games that have a lot of actions.
>>740792036>utterly irrelevanthow so?
>>740804046It isn't. See: >>740792440 and >>740794619
>>740792036Sure let me just boot up steam on my Linux™ computer
>>740803869You can cry but that's not going to un-buy the steam controllers people are already using, or sell chinkshit controllers to people.
>>740804251I mean chinkshit controllers are doing fine. 8bitdo and gamesaar posted record profits in 2025. And Valve will always have cultists buying their shit products. The $999 steam deck was sold out lol
>>740804461Did Gabe Newell rape or something, man?
>>740799638>but I would never ever buy this piece of shit controllerHave you seriously never used the trackpads on your Deck? I recommend you just pick some shooter from your library, download a community layout that uses trackpads, and beat the game without touching the right stick once. After that, you'll see the value of the trackpads and not be able to go back.>>740799904>sell overpriced, low qualityThe Deck was pretty well priced and powerful for the price at launch. The Index also seems pretty competitive with other similar headsets released around the same time. Can't say much about the Cube or Frame since the prices aren't out yet, but if they're too expensive, it's not exactly Valve's fault at this point.>console-locked hardwareWhat are you even saying? Which of their hardware has been locked exactly?
>>740803869Trackpads with gyro and extra back buttons.
>>740803954>by replacing sticksthey don't, unless you're playing a farming simulator game
>>740804664Why are jeets so obsessed with rape?
>>7408046868bitdo has them too. Although now I am curious why no third party wants to give a try at trackpads. What does Valve know that they don't?
>>740804461Valve is king cry more chink
>>740804760It is their culture + skewed ratio of men to women.
>>740800072>>$5000 motorcycle locked to the gas ecosystem unless you jump through hoops with custom pedal mods>Or you can buy a $300 bicycle that does everything better except the engine.Have you ever considered that perhaps the engine is the entire fucking reason someone would buy a motorcycle over a bike?
>>740804994You should've just made a food analogy. Even that would've made more sense.
>>740805024I mean in this case it wouldn't, but it'd be easier to dismiss.
>>740803314Boughtinged this and loving it.Only complain so far is that the Hold to Activate Gyro option is a bit wonky, takes like half a second to activate which messes up my aim, and drifts a little bit to adjust the sensors right after activating.But I think that's something really hard to pull off, considering it's emulating gyro and not true gyro.Still really good and got it for cheap.
>>740792036nonsense
>>740804826There's a few DS4likes that have them, but none of the main brands do, which I don't understand either.
>>740800243>>740801372>>740801660Do you need me to take a video of myself playing games with this and using the trackpads? Or would me putting in the effort just "prove" to you that it's shilling?How low IQ do you have to be to not comprehend that different people might just like different things from you? Some people genuinely do just prefer sitting on a couch or armchair instead of at a desk.
>>740792036built for 'ick
test
>>740804747>they don'tYes they do. The right stick anyway, left is still useful. Trackpads are simply objectively better for aiming.>unless you're playing a farming simulator gameWhat do you mean?
>>740805079Both are wrong anyways.
>>740804461>8bitdo and gamesaar posted record profitsBased informed consumer. I always ask my broker how the markets look for CRSR, MSFT, and SONY before I stroll into Gamestop for my next controller investment too
>>740792036I have thisI like itPlug and play, no driversI can use it without being forced to run Steam and a whole chromium instance in the background.
So this thread is a poorfag and his bots vs anonmastubatestotrackpads and his bots?Fun times.
>>740806496Don't forget the ever present Chinese shill faction.
>>740806264>Plug and play, no drivers >I can use it without being forced to run Steam and a whole chromium instance in the background.That's cool! I have this one and it works that way too.
>>740806216>lolol no one is buying these controllers lolol>But the companies are saying revenue selling them went up>SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP
>>740792036I finally got the reservation greenlight bros. We are so back!
>>740792036you need steam to use the controller?
>>740807168Yeah
>>740806853you're running an emulator over your game
>>740792036>"Guys, why aren't people talking 24/7 about a controller?"
>>740807206Ok how aren't people shitting on the controllerimagine if there was an EA controller that made you install oiriginthis is ridiculous
>>740806853That's cool!I'm glad you both are enjoying the products you bought.
>>740792036there's no functional difference between a 300$ controller and a 30$ controllerthe difference in performance is unnoticable by a human
>>740807206Only on wangblows. Works fine on Linux.>>740807220And? It still runs faster than natively on bloatdows lmao.>>740807319>how aren't people shitting on the controllerSimple. It's false. Doesn't stop jeets from trying to force outrage over this though.
>>740805435My post >>740801372 was talking about the retard I was replying to. It wasn't even an opinion on trackpad vs no trackpad. It was just the absurdity of bringing up the superiority of the keyboard and mouse as a reason you should buy a normal controller.
>>740801660>Because it costs several times as much as options that do everything that people (who aren't bad-faith schizophrenics) actually want from a gamepad at an extremely high level of quality? Sorry, am I arguing with actual illiterates herewhen did valve hold a gun to your head and force you to buy a controller? if you dont care about those features, just stop hating and dont buy it. other controllers which have these features (gyro, TMR sticks, back buttons) cost double this much, and they dont have trackpads. There are separate markets for cheap chinese 8bitdo crap and controllers like this, which is competing against similarly priced official xbox and snoy controllers and massively undercutting "pro" controller markets
>>740807556>Simple. It's false. Doesn't stop jeets from trying to force outrage over this though.Ive read that you need steam to change settingsfuck you and fuck jewben
>>740807449Apparently which side the dollar sign goes on is unnoticeable by humans too
>>740807862>other controllers which have these features (gyro, TMR sticks, back buttons) cost double this much, and they dont have trackpads.Bro what? 8bitdo ultimate 3 goes on sale for $60 regularly.
My order just went through and I'm curious what other people are doing with it.I bought the original Steam Controller and while I didn't use it enough, it had a brief resurrection last year when I used it to play Nubby's Number Factory.I know I'll be able to use it to download roms when I'm sitting on my couch and maybe some DS emulation but I'm curious what other games on Steam I haven't thought about.
>>740807645Fair enough. I just quickly glanced over the thread to see if any other posts brought up the same "you don't actually want to play on the couch" point and accidentally flagged your post.
>>740808053idk man it doesnt have gyro. about a year ago i wanted a controller that has gyro because i was impressed by splatoon and they have steam input gyro now so i looked it up but anything with gyro is stupid expensive, esp if you also want magnetic thumbsticks
>>740807923>Ive read that you need steam to change settingsNot quite. You obviously need some software to remap and change settings. Steam is the official option, but any software that uses SDL will read the controller and can either use it directly or act as remapping software and forward it to games.
>>740808121I was playing DS games with mine, I was having trouble with rhythm heaven but from what I've heard it emulates poorly, and it might be a skill issue.
>>740808461It does have gyro, but you need to install their software.
>>740808121been great for mpv player, i sit back on the couch and watch anime with it. i had an input config that meant i could do this before with an xbox controller but there were things i couldnt do like select different files to watch or having a button for next/previous file due to not enough buttons.also, putting gyro aim in games like EDF5still looking at trying a few other games out, and i will have to fuck around in steam input more, but theres a lot of possibilities, especially with radial menus and such on the trackpads.
>>740798403words to live by
>>740792036It's still sold out. Where the fuck can I get one without paying some scalper faggot?
>>740809330You can reserve and join the queue but it'll be a while until you can actually order.
>>740802869I'd love it if it worked wirelessly on PC. Only works wired so far.
>>740809330>>740809465Im here near Seattle and I got one from the first batchUsed it once and put it on my shelf never to use againIf you live near me and you are a cute twink/tranny or a hung stud let me fuck you or suck your bwc and ill give you my Steam controller
>>740792250These are just started by somebody who wants to talk about their steam controller but framed negatively because earnest threads don't survive on /v/.
>>740803314>gamesirgot some cheap $10 one from em and liking it so far; nice alternative for when I don't want to torment my eternal og x360. the name is completely retarded though lmao
Why are people shitting in 8bitdoIt just werks
>>740792036Bro it's just a controller why are you seething so much?
>>740810919Steamies are threatened.
>>740809936>tfw I'd actually take this offer in this economyWelp, guess I'm econosexual or something
>>740792036I still want to buy one but I'm waiting for fans to fix it and make it work outside of steam like a normal fucking controller.
>>740810919It's a good controller. I was going to buy 2 more for a total of 4 but then the steam controller was announced a release date. I might still end up buying one more though because I don't foresee getting a 2nd steam controller ever (I have two base stations for deck on different floors).My only complaint about the 8bitdo is that it doesn't have track pads. You gotta use a shift key + joystick to move the mouse around on "playable" games with launchers on the deck, and it's an absolute pain.
>>740810984Is this teh "I'm having a blast" of Steam Controller threads?
>>740792036I might get one if it ever comes back in stock.My most recently bought Dualsense right trigger has stuck for no reason. I opened it up and gave it a shake but it hasn't fixed it.The Steam controller has some nice features and at least it has twin sticks this time.
>>740811704It already does that. Might want to put in a reservation.
>>740812153Full functionality without having to run Steam?
>>740792036>saar redeem xinput you bloody benchodAll fields
>>740792250Sour grapes.
>>740808943>been great for mpv playerHaven't really had the need for a media player but that might be nice. I'll give it a shot.>also, putting gyro aim in games like EDF5Still never done much gyro aiming but I am thinking I could go for some EDF at the moment. Something about the Summer heat.Definitely a lot of possibilities with Steam input and it really works well if there's someone extremely autistic about the game in question that has already made a layout. I remember seeing an extremely elaborate one for Dwarf Fortress and I'm sure there's a similar one for Rimworld. Never played much Rimworld but setting up a colony and chilling on the couch might be fun.
>>740798524>mogged by nova 2 lite and cyclone 2regular G7 has no reason to exist
>>740812310Depends on what you mean by full functionality. All the inputs are accessible through SDL, so any software that supports SDL can use it. But if you want Steam input remapping, you obviously won't get that without Steam. You can still use 3rd party software for remapping though, but it won't be as extensive.
>>740812689Alright I have to look into this a little bit more before I commit. Thanks for the info.
>>740792036>irrelevantStill waiting for my preorder to be called.
>>740810919They have crappy quality control but that can be applied to most of the chink brands.
>>740792036>brownoids shilling gameSARFucking lol!!!!!!!!!
>>740792036>locking it behind the Steam DRMWorks on my machine.
>>740792250tim sweeney's jeet brigade getting paid in vbucks
>>740810919Their old controllers were overpriced ass carried by nostalgic design, and they've been shilling their shit here for a full decade nowTheir new stuff seems fine if you aren't picky about sticks or d-pad
>>740792682well, on china's side they are just desperate to pretend their cheap slop means you should never consider anything nicer.purely business.these threads have also seen the sony fans doing their usual retardation and subterfuge they became known for during the console wars stuff.other than that its just Epic games, their hired pajeets, and some angry jewish lawyers seething at valve for being successful without being evil about it.
>>740792250meI am behind everythingsay my name
>>740810919because 8bitdo kept trying to aggressively shill in the anti-steam threads, and their stuff "just werking" is a small gamble due to chink quality control being exactly that.they made the mistake of being annoying and trying to muscle into the longstanding war between everyone and the pajeets that scream about literally ANYTHING and EVERYTHING involving valve at all times.
>>740812767waiting a bit for things to stabilize will likely just benefit you, as long as the controller keeps getting made.Valve released enough info for anyone else to just make or incorporate what steaminput does for the controller into their own stuff which does the same thing.They have a history of doing this kind of thing, even releasing cad files for the shell and making a deal with a third party vendor to sell parts for the controller.The more you wait, the better a picture you will get of what the controller offers, and the more third party stuff will be built around it.
>>740792250>Where do you guys think these threads come from?Honestly I dunno. Babblegroup got hired by Epic to make these? A lone deranged snoyger upset their controller only has a 3 hour battery life and costs more? Some autist who's special interest is talking about how much better his 3rd party controller is? A true mystery. I genuinely love my Steam Controller. Was expensive but it was free thanks to the CS skin rework that turned my 50 dollars worth of trash into 1900 dollars. Even if I had to pay I'd probably get it just because of the expanded Steam Input options. Trackball emulation on trackpad is a game changer for my needs. So are the backbuttons and the combination of them with layers and "virtual keys" on the touchpad. It made me pack up my old 30$ 8bitdo Ultimate C 2.4Ghz wireless which previously was my favorite since it was cheap, comfy, had back buttons, long battery life and came with a wireless charging dock. I didn't think I'd ever get the opportunity to replace it and justify a replacement. There are thousands of other controllers people can use so if they like them they should use them. The only reason people make threads like this is because they can't use it and realize their method of input is inferior is my take (from their subjective unconscious perspective at least).
>>740813963Is there a controller with a better clicky d-pad than the Pro 3? Cause I got one because I've heard it's the closest to the Vita d-pad I'm going to get
>>740815520If you're particular about it having the same shape and switch type, no.
>>740815520The main reason to get a 8bitdo is for it's dpad
>>740813759>just run an emulator to play your PC games bro
What's the best xinput solution for this turd controller? Adding pirated games and emulators as non-steam games is an insanely dogshit solution. Launching wukong simply launches a whole fucking different game from my steam library. Stellar Blade has no fucking working gyro for some fucking reason no matter how hard I try. And some other game that I tried straight up crashes at launch as a nonsteam game. It's not worth the fucking effort. I tried steamless controller, it converts it into a xbox controller BUT the fucking steam controller still fucking works as a steam controller, so when playing, the fucking keyboard pops randomly0/10 controller so far btw, not worth it
>>740792036You literally can't even buy it right now, goddammit, Valve.
how can this thing be the best PC controller if it doesn't even have adaptive triggers for racing games lol, and it won't even be detected by Forza games i believe what counts as the "best for PC" means "the best for everything although not perfect", the whole point is compatibility and it doesn't offer that
>>740819385>how can this thing be the best PC controller if it doesn't even have adaptive triggers for racing games lolYes it does.
>>740819431?????????? lying kike
>>740819385>adaptive triggers for racing gamesWhy would I play a racing game with a controller? That's the cool thing about PC. I can use pedals. I use pedals for every game in fact as additional inputs, not just racing. I can't imagine tolerating nonsense like using a controller for racing lmfao. That's like using a controller for a shooter.
>>740818835What emulator am I running?
>>740820336this retard is pretending shooters and racing games on console didn't exist before overpriced accessories started showing up in the market
>>740810537>I want to have a thread about [thing] so I will ensure the thread derails before it starts!No one who thinks like this is interested in discussion, they just want (You)'s.
>>740821314The last shooter I tolerated on console was Goldeneye 64. Then I realized PC existed and bought all my shooters there from then onward. Consoles are for platformers, movie games, puzzle games, sports games, fighting games, etc. Racing/simulation/strategy/shooter is the realm of keyboard/mouse (PC). You can technically play a racing game or shooter on console just like you can technically eat dog shit from your yard. Doesn't mean you should.
>>740821314What kind of desperate cope and goalpost moving is that? Try harder.
>>740821657wow, i'm glad i'm talking to such a well-educated shooter player in the flesh!! what a legendary PC gamer
>>740821852Thanks Mr. Dogshit Consumer.
>>740808735don't need that either, use dinput
>>740815148>Reaction image labeled ultra sus>Willing to admit that there's violent antishilling>Conspicuously absent platform fanboys always whining about Valve and steam while crying about snoys
>>740792036it's a fucking controller. why is a controller living rent free in your head? lmao
>ordered mine on Friday>tracking info spent 4 days in Netherlands >now it's stuck in Denmark
