So, which is better?
>>740792939Two cakes
2D sidescroller > 2D top-down
>>740792939The first ones of each
>>740792939Mina is better
>>740792939
apples and oranges
>>740793108Coughing baby has more power per unit of mass, the human body's scaled-up cells are like thousands of times more power dense than the center of the sun
Both of them can fit in my penis.
mina rapes and gapes silksong
>>740792939Silksong but they’re both excellent.
new game good old game bad
>>740792939If you go by popularity, silksong broke the steam store on release while mina...well...
>>740792939I enjoyed silksong, I refunded mina. The latter is like a 2/10, pretty dissapointing.
mina falls off hard in the second halfsilksong doesn't
>>740793671pic or it never happened
>>7407938303rd act is pretty lame though
>>740792939They're both flawed but Silksong is a more coherent game. Mina is too directionless.
>>740792939silksong and it isn't even remotely close. what a laughable proposition
>>740793817As a fellow Mina-rejecter I'm interested to hear what you didn't like about it.
>>740792939>Which tranny game is better
>>740793517No they're not
>>740793974Absolutely braindead and overpowered trinkets, there is too much emphasis on scooping up minor amounts of currency and the side areas are uninteresting, the movement is kind of lazy and there isn't much you can do with it compared to silksong, just an all around casual normalfag game for people who want something they can intuitively bludgeon to death
>>740792939SS.
>>740793517>>740794051>look it up>280 watts per cubic meter vs. 1400 watts per cubic meterFuck this. Reality is retarded. I'm creating a simulation. Count me out of this existence
>>740792939Hornet could probably handle the shit on Tenebrous Isle handily, while Mina is canonically weak to being puppeted and thus would fall to the Haunting
>>740793517ok now do supermassive black holes, faggot
>>740794273ur mum is a supermassive black hole
>>740792939you mean in bed?
>>740792939they play very differently.gun to my head, i preferred mina.
>>740794145>Absolutely braindead and overpowered trinketsFor me it's the amount of them, and I think a lot of them should have just been upgrades so the game could balance around them better.>there is too much emphasis on scooping up minor amounts of currencyYeah, this is fucking ridiculous.>the side areas are uninterestingThey are. There are so many of them and most of it just comes down to collecting bones. Feels both cluttered and insignificant. It's trying to be Zelda, but it's getting it completely wrong because it's trying to be a bunch of other games too.I do really like the burrowing mechanic and how it's used, the game just needed to be much more focused.
I beat the hell out of Silksong but after 2 generators in Mina I haven’t played it in a couple days and I’m not super interested to pick it back up desu. It’s good and well done but the overall atmosphere and story and shit are doing absolutely nothing for me, not that I’m super into Silksong story either but every area has a level of intrigue in it and getting more powerful feels great whereas Mina I’m not really interested in what’s next every screen is just “how do I get through this as fast as possible” as if it’s just tedious. Also no map is fucking annoying.
>>740792939Mina reminded me just how shitty the average indie game is and that Hollow Knight/Silksong are positive outliers.
>>740794273The answer to that depends on several questions we don't have answers to. Is gravity quantized? Do black holes actually have a singularity inside them, or is the fuzzball model correct? Etc.
>>740794273>>740794874If the fuzzball model is correct the answer is a number so small that you can't even understand it btw
Mina attracts more mentally ill furniggers so it should lose by that principle.Both are excellent games though.KYS BTW console war faggot.
>>740795261>console war?
Mmm, cakes...
>>740794273supermassive didn't make silksong thoughie
I would say Mina Both feel a bit up their own ass but Mina is a more entertaining experience
Silksong, ultimately. Mina is good but there's too much rpg slop design dragging it down
>>740794145Onigger play with veteran mode enabled. You can't facetank and are forced to learn patterns
>>740792939Objectively speaking? Mina.
Idk just buy both. You poor or something.
>>740797909>critic scoreslmao>objectively speakingrofl
>>740797976>don't discuss, just consoooooom
>>740793882Ehh, I liked it. Trobbio and Skarrdancer makes it worth it.
I didn't care for Hollow Knight enough to get the sequel but Mina is my GOTY currently. Silksong does have much nicer art, though.
why did silksong release feel so natural and like team cherry didn't even care about the sales, while mina feels astroturfed and desperate?
>>740800282Because Silksong has a smaller dev team and they never once mentioned wanting or needing to meet a specific number of sales.
>>740792939Mina isn't bloated so it wins by default. It also helps that its map design and upgrade acquisition isn't ass-backwards.Silksong is a textbook example of why "git gud" brainrot causes people to never notice when a game is wasting their time. Silksong makes you do fetch quests to reach the true ending of the game. Silksong offers health upgrades after you've already bashed your head against the wall against 70% of the game's bosses. Silksong has no idea what the term "ebb and flow" means for its difficulty curve.Silksong is a badly designed game. Mina is not.
>>740800425>I can trivialize a game so it's goodYou're why games suck now, not sjws or whatever, its you, you're the problem
>>740800635I beat Silksong retard. You haven't. Shut the fuck up.
>>740799741So yea. Poor
>>740792939Silksong has better bossfights and feels better, but Mina was much less bloated, more fun, and didn't feel like a chore like Silksong often did. Mina wins
>>740800851>don't have standards, just consoooooom
>>740792939Silksong by a landslide, apart from boring enemies, boring "puzzles" and a boring soundtrack, Mina is also ugly as sin.
>>740800378so is it natural to recoil in disgust at this kind of behavior in the press, which borders on begging? and at the uniformly constructed reviews that sound like they were written by dev team? because game itself aside, that was my reaction
>>740793036>two turds
>>740792939Neither
>>740792939Mina, Silksong is just a wanabe super metroid for tryhards
>>740792939Silksong. But it's really close to me. I'm into my second Mina playthrough and I'm surely going to do another one afterwards too. I did two playthroughs of Silksong too though, and the only reason I didn't do three was because I'm waiting for the DLC to come. These games are incredible.
Got a few bosses in to silk song and got bored. Beat mina twice. Canr say weather it was because mina was a lot easier or if i just liked the goofier setting of hollower more.
>>740792985>>740793036I know Mina is a cake since she's likely over 30, but is the bug also 25+ years old? Never played Silksong.
>>740792939100% ed both games, I enjoyed Mina more, felt like Team Cherry balanced the fun out of the game, early/endgame felt too similar...
>>740799953NTA but it has some of the best bosses but in terms of exploration it becomes genuine dog shit with the game basically just devolving into backtracking through every area you've already been through with literally nothing new to see until you get to the abyss. Silksong probably has the best combat and bosses of any metroidvania ever but it's still a metroidvania at the end of the day so exploration is king.
>>740793830This would never happen, Mina has excellent balance.
>>740800282Because the game came out of nowhere and all of a sudden journos were praising it like god's gift to mankind. It was super obviously astroturfed.
>>740792985Two things resembling cake but are actually just fondant.
>>740793763It broke because they didn't allow for preorders and the game sold and became playable at the same time. Them fucking up causing Steam to crash doesn't mean other companies who didn't fuck anything up are worth less.
>>740793830>mina falls off hard in the second halfHow so? It really doesn't.
>>740802470>It broke because <cope>mhmm
>>740800846Beating silksong is not an accomplishment. It's a very easy game.
>>740800425>difficulty curveReddit game design course 101 terminology
>>740792939I actually played bug knight 2 and liked it so Imma go with that one.
>>740803306So easy in fact I think it was the first time TC has nerfed content in response to player feedback during SS release
>>740802115CARLOS!
>>740792939If you think mina is better you're a contrarian. it's mogged in gameplay, visuals, and music
>>740792939not a single good game there
>>740792939Silksong has better gameplay. Combat in Mina is a bore and the "puzzles" are for 8 year olds. In terms of exploration I'd rate them similarly.
>>740803461I agree that Silksong is better, but they're such different games it's hard to compare them directly.
>>740797909>All of Silksong’s high ratings are completely natural>Meanwhile Yacht Club no doubt paid off some critics to increase Mina’s score>AND the jury’s still out on what actual players think of Mina compared to SilksongNot a big fan of Skong, but even I have to call bullshit when I see it.
There is no comparison, Silksong is one of the best games ever, Mina is a good game.
>>740792939>mid vs mid
Mina: 6.5/10Silksong: 8/10
>>740805337EFPBP
>>740805337what are some recent games you would consider good
>>740792939Silksong, obviously. Mina is good but it's stuck in the indie mindset of the early 2010's. Silksong is the quality all indies of the modern age should aspire to.
>>740801960She's immortal and talks about how she's outlived partners before.
>>740801960age of the protagonist has nothing to do with the quality of the game
>>740805654NTA but both are mogged by Ender Magnolia. Better customization, better visuals, better music, better exploration, better bosses.
>>740792985Fpbp
>>740793517That doesn't mean anything if you can't release that power in a fight.
>>740806525>better explorationthat's just blatantly false
>>740806673what the fuck am I reading
>>740806968Exploration in Silksong is just having a hidden room in every other corner or going through a boring obstacle course to get someone difficult to reach, it's not particularly interesting and doesn't inspire that feeling of discovery and adventure that makes the genre good. Don't even need to mention Mina, it's trash. Magnolia is good because it's all about using your different moves to reach something you can see but aren't sure how to get to and being creative which makes for much better actual exploration. It's much more organic and not railroaded and doesn't involve you boringly bumping against every wall in every room you go into.
>>740807167accompanied by a mental illness of course
>>740794249The only correct answer
>>740792939Silksong casuals got filtered by the difficulty. 'Nuff said.
>>740810007I saw this absolute cope during mina release when the player count barely broke 10k, how the fuck do you get filtered by a game that offers a gorillion difficulty modifiers :DD
>>740810228Hollowers are born not made
>>740792939Mina is easier, but a much more enjoyable experience overall, in my opinion. Loved Silksong, though, and if we're being honest, nostalgia was a heavily deciding factor in how much I enjoyed Mina. YCG really nailed the Link's Awakening aesthetic perfectly.
silksong is like a cake with tiny razors inside and Im thinking its perfectly fine cake why would they add tiny razors, mina is a cake with tabasco frosting and again you think why would they so that and then you eat it and there's tabasca inside also mixed with regular ingridients and then you get it, oh the baker is trolling me, when baker was a little kid his dad made him drink tobasco sause because they didnt know any better back then and baker's wires got crossed, he now thinks tabasco sause=love and comfort, so now you have to endure the hot sause if you want to eat the cake
>>740792939minas graphics are too tiny and the main character looks dumb, very unappealing
>>740806525lol
>>740806525The bosses and combat in general in Ender Lilies was shit. I highly doubt the sequel is any better especially since I'm sure it still has an i-frame dodge.
>>740810007Nice cope but mina is way easier.
>>740792939silksong. mina is great but it's a bit too easy
>>740812063You do not need to type your entire string of consciousness - hell, with a proof read and a spell check, you may even have a humorous post!
>>740813967It's my own fault I am sure. But I played Mina the Hollower by going full offence. I had the uranium bracelet on for the entire game and I only levelled up Attack and my Sidearms power. Didn't ever level up Defence until the other stats were both level 20. So I died a ton, over and over and over in Mina the Hollower. Silksong was a lot easier for me.
>>740817645>Uranium BraceletYou were gimping yourself by the lategame with that for sure. It used to be good in the demo, but now the damage buff is negligable at higher levels, while enemies just get a flat percentage bonus damage against you.
I liked silksong better but I think mina is great too. they are both the best games i've played in the last handful of years.
>>740804981>Meanwhile Yacht Club no doubt paid off some critics to increase Mina’s scoreyet they couldn't be bothered to even pay for a steam launch slash page?Why is /v/ so butthurt over these two games?
>>740792939is mina a metroidvania?
>>740818969No because there is no progression upgrades you need to acquire to get to new locations
>>740800974We get it you're poor you don't have to say it twice
>>740818602the mind of an underage shitposter who only understands the medium through twitter ragebait screencaps can't fathom a game being actually liked and popular for reasons outside of a conspiracy theory.
>>740818969its a proto-soulslike(post-zeldalike)
>>740818969No, and if you wish it was, then check out Pipistrello and the Cursed Yoyo.
>>740792939Silksong wins thanks to having Act 3, if Mina had just as much content it would win.Both are 10/10 games thoughbeitfully.
>>740793517And a hydrogen bomb is also more power dense than the sun
>>740792939dunno what that is on the right but if the advertising gimmick is to pretend it's as good as Silksong then it's probably slop and I will make a mental note to never buy it thank you
the mina dev seems like a retard so im gonna go with team cherry on this one
>>740806673I will train the baby in the forbidden techniques.
>>740792939I liked Mina a lot more, the exploration is much more rewarding in my opinion. The quests are better, the world is more interesting, and the combat feels more satisfying. I adore Hollow Knight but ended up taking a break from Silksong to play something else and never returned.
>>740792939The one that got the most porn.
>>740819205Not permanent ones but there's only so many combinations of abilities and trinkets you can use to cross that large gap east of the mansion. You do need specific abilities to access specific areas.
>>740793517very clever, but what about this matchup?
>>740793517>>740794202
>>740827415there's already a baki page about martial artists not wanting to be locked in a cage match with a house cat so this is kind of redundant
>>740818969No, and neither is Silksong althoughthan
>>740792939The mouse eats the bugit's only nature
>>740804981why does Mina make you so mad buganon?
If Mina had HK's art direction, it wouldn't just be GOTY, it would probably be in the mix for my top 10 of all time.