the pointless persue for ultrarealism has killed videogames
AI will unironicly fix this
>>740796585has todd ever said why the fuck he teased it so early if they had no intention of even starting development on it within the next 5+ years? all I've seen him say is he regrets announcing it so soon but never once have I seen the slimy fuck actually explain himself.
>>740796585They probably haven't even started working on it yet
>>740796585>>740796776I think Starfield flopping so hard was unforseen and lead to the company taking a hard look at their approach to development. That's my cope at least.
>>740796695i'm sure AI is better than indians and troons at making videogames but saying that will fix it is giga cope
>>740796776I think the usual assumption is that they just wanted to make shareholders happy.
>>740796776my guess is that the game was like 70% done but they decided to scrap most of it due to Starfield's massive flop, keep in mind that it was announced around the peak of wokeness, back when there was barely any pushback against it.
>>740796892there is no more (capital injection)investment bankers are moving on to actual wars instead of culture wars
>>740796585Elder Scrolls hasn't been ruined yet thanks to Todd Howard taking forever to release the sequel to Skyrim.
>>740797140Skyrim already ruined it though?
>>740796776Inflate their worth for the Microsoft buyout.
>>740797530morrowboomer detected
>>740797530Weird way to spell Oblivion.
>>740796776shareholder grift. any and all extremely early game reveal is to A) placate shareholders and grift them into sticking around and providing more funding or B) to attract potential employees
Buy Skyrim again
>>740796892>>740796892>>740796892Star lfield didn’t flop
>>740798397It had pretty low sales relative to other releases from Bethesda.
>>740796776>has todd ever said why the fuck he teased it so early if they had no intention of even starting development on it within the next 5+ yearsYou know why. Everyone fucking knows why. They pretend not to understand so they can complain about it, but everyone who has put even the slightest amount of effort thinking about it, understands why this happened:1) They were about to release a multiplayer live-service game which made their comments endorsing the "save player one" campaign that was going around look really silly. They wanted to ensure fans of their commitment to single player games.2) Starfield was their next game and if they announced two games, neither of which were Elder Scrolls, fans would think the franchise had been retired.3) It didn't hurt that it would juice Zenimax valuation while they were shopping for a buyer.4) FO76 was supposed to be completely passed off to Austin studio (formerly Battlecry) in late 2018. Because of launch issues/backlash, Rockville was forced to stay on through Wastelanders update (early 2020) until they considered the game fixed. This set their timeline back.5) Starfield ran into dev issues because of covid and an uneven engine upgrade which forced them to internally delay and set their timeline back again.6) Microsoft forced another Starfield delay to polish because the last thing they wanted was another Cyberpunk debacle. This set the timeline back even further.So basically, they were overeager to announce to blunt backlash against FO76 and then after that development got delayed several times so they're running 3-4 years behind schedule.
>>740797902>implying Morrowind had a good UI
>>740799184They are absolutely aware of how much of a fuckup announcing the game this early was and have done everything in their power to bury it. But they can't un-announce it and they also can't release a game that isn't ready yet.
>>740799263>implying implications
>>740796776shareholders.
>>740799423lost technology
>>740796585With Bethesda specifically it's the case of team not growing or keep up with new technology. Their games are dated on release AND take forever to actually get made.
Delhi...Bombay...Pune...Madras...Hyderabad. Mobilize the new Bethesda studios!
>>740798397Anon...
>>740797530Skyrim destroyed bethesda in that it taught them not to give a fuck anymore but the skyrim babies that inhabit this board don't want to deal with that
>be todd>announce tes>release shitfield (powered by ai [tm])>tes6 is copy-pasta of shitfield with different characters and quests>month after release all paid positive comments about shitfield disappear>everyone hates>even the retarded normans are like wtf is there loading screen every 2 steps>be todd>plans to release shitscrolls 6 fumbled>todd now has to redo entire game>2025 in interview say it's still years away
>>740796776>has todd ever said why the fuck he teased it so earlyThey do it to scam investors
really hope new xbox mommy shuts down todd and his boomer teamform a new studio and let them make skyrim 2 and fallout 5
>>740796585Games are easier than ever to create. Incompetence is the crux of the issue.
>>740799952I just want 76 to end and Fallout 5 to begin.
>>740796892>>740798624>>740799785Low sales for Bethesda is still a very successful game. I know everyone complains about bloated AAA development costs, but BGS is genuinely one of the most cost efficient studios in the business. This isn't a case of a studio that needs to sell 5 million copies just to break even. In fact much a major reason people complain about them is because they DON'T spend ungodly amounts of money on expensive setpieces; instead deferring to conventional scripting and asset reuse in almost all questlines. Starfield has like one actually expensive setpiece in the whole game, and it's the opening mining sequence.
>release 76, it's fucking ass, people hate it>todd starts sweating>the big studio acquisition rush is about to start>todd gets an idea>they put together a 10 second teaser for skyrim 2>microsoft comes knocking>PLEASE let us buy you>todd says he ain't a cheap boy>microsoft pays almost $10bn>they get redfall and starfield>todd, where is skyrim 2 and fallout 5?>oh we haven't started working on those yet :^)
>>740796776There was some negative attention coming out against Bethesda and their competency at delivering the traditional gaming experiences we used to love them for, so they felt the need to lie and get people excited for TES6 in order to distract from the real shit games they were actually releasing.
>>740800650Bethesda was meant to be the killer app for Xbox, timed with a bundle they released in time for the holiday season.Nobody bought it.
Have you guys played starfield? Is it worth a playthrough?
>>740796776They do that shit to look more profitable to bait investors.
>>740801213nah, it's all loading screens and empty planets if the game was 10-20 gb then maybe for fun but not at the current 150 gb bloat
>>740800813kill yourself
>>740801132kill yourself
>>740801316>150gbfuck that, I don't even have that much free space
>>740799952kill yourself
>>740796892>taking a hard look at their approach to developmentlike releasing a shit DLC and focusing all on their MMO slops? Por favor, Bethesda is GONZO
>>740796585All you need is modding Skyrim and Morrowind.It's a more worthwhile experience.
>>740796585>It comes out>Runs terribly>It’s worse than Skyrim >No mod scene >Forgotten in months Screencap this
It's because Dark Souls changed standards for combat in dungeons and dragons games. This is a problem for Witcher 4 too. I think they will see how the inevitable backlash of parry addicts to Witcher 4's mainstream friendly combat affects sales before releasing more substantial info.
>>740801542ESO isn't managed directly by Bethesda, so that's not really relevant.
>>740796585What if they are making ES 6 and 7. ES 6 7 if you would xDDD.
>>740801664kill yourself
>>740799785I can see how an executive would look at Starfield and conflate the scale as something that would give game longevity, but Todd should know better. That's something retarded good old Pete Hines would say, for example.
>>740796585To be fair Bethesda is incapable of making games
>>740796585>persuepursuit you dumb jeet
>>740796585>implying that game is even being made
>>740796776Because he knew that people would be mad that he showed up to e3 to announce a multiplayer fallout asset flip and not a new game, so they threw in a teaser to remind everyone that it would come out eventually.
>>740799785Its peak is higher than fucking Skyrim, that's a smash hit.
>>740799785those numbers are better than deserved tbqh
>>740796585The state of Skyrim 6 right now
>>740796776They wanted to reassure people that TES was not in fact abandoned and probably expected the game to come out in like 2023
>>740799184I like how the progression of Bethesda games is actually a technological improvement each time, sometimes in great leaps,but the people in charge of scripting each scene are still making the same mistakes (setting and not unsetting essential flags, NPCs getting lost in doors, undroppable quest item not unflagged after quest),the writers are getting worse even before adding outsider politics,and the voice actors are miserable.Go back to Oblivion and even the beggars beam positivity at you. Go to Fallout 4 and "Oh they're from Bawston, they're supposed to be antagonistic". Go to 76 and you have multiple suicidal depressives talking about terminal illnesses. I never played Starfield but I imagine it was even worse there.Even Fallout 2 had mirth and that's THE political fallout.You'll launch ES6 and you'll have a redguard woman quipping at you in five minutes, and your only options to respond will be a literal "S- s- sorry ma'am" or "*Slurps xir feet*".
>>740796892What they really need to do is split into two teams, grow very VERY slightly and shoot for slimmer projects. Then they could stagged Fallout/TES every 3-4 years. But they're stubborn.On the other hand, going from a 1 project studio to a 2 project studio is very hard, especially if you've done it this way for like 30 years. The culture is fossilized.
>>740797140Elder Scrolls was ruined 20 years ago when Oblivion came out tho
>>740800813The TES VI teaser happened in the same E3 event Fallout 76 was *announced* in, its release obviously had nothing to do with itI know it's been nearly a decade and all but c'mon
>>740796585>Re-relase game for new console for the 13th time, sell like new release, ton of profit>People keep spending tons in online mode to the point every years profit is like a new release and making an actual sequel would dry up the actual title online mode cowits because games keep making money for years, making it needless to make a sequel when studios can just keep milking, basically passive income.
