After I'm done cooking and eating in a bit, now 22 years later I will finally play Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines for the first time, ever.What am I in for?
>>740797552one of the greatest roleplaying games ever made, also install community patch (plus is fine too dont listen to purist autists)
>>740797552a janky action game overrated by hipsters
ISOLATION
>>740797625>also install community patch (plus is fine too dont listen to purist autists)explain>>740797660Overrated?>>740797749It's a pretty good track, that one I've heard before.
>>740797552Fun characters.
The only true way to experience VtMB is to pick Malkavian for your first playthrough. There can be no debate about this, only seething from those who didn't do it. But if you do, it's magic.
2ND GAME PUT TRANNY IN IT SO SHITGAMEIF YOU PLAY IT OP YOURE A RETARDED FAGGOT KYS
>>740797921> seething from those who didn't do itPretty sure it's just one autismo
>>740797552Combat is trash, but the atmosphere, story, writing, and characters are all pretty memorable. I wish VTMB2 wasn't so utterly mediocre and forgettable, but at least I have the new cRPG to look forward to. Also wouldn't mind a Redemption remake but that'll never happen.
>>740797921Seems kinda retarded to play an RPG, a genre that lives and dies by its writing, for the first time as the character that only has incoherent nonsense for dialogue
>>740798387>incoherent nonsenseskill isue
>>740797819>explainThe "Unofficial Patch" for VtMB has a basic and plus version. Basic is bug fixes and a smaller amount of content changes, the plus version is basically a complete overhaul of the game. Some people say plus is good, others hate it. The general advice is to at least play with the basic version for your first time and save plus for another playthrough. Anyone telling you to mod the game or what clan to pick should be ignored. Play the basic version of the game and pick what clan sounds most interesting to you and don't worry about much else. Just make sure you pay attention to what the game is actually telling you during the tutorial, like don't neglect your combat stats. For some reason a lot of people think they can go 100% stealth/social even when the game tells them not to try that because it won't work.
>>740797552You should open it.
>>740797552If you want to be good at both combat and social skills, pick Tremere, it's the OP meta clan. And they even get some bonus story stuff like their own exclusive haven (the other clans live in a shithole).If you have the Steam version, you need to install the fan patch first, otherwise it won't even launch lmao
>>740798570*unzips sarcophagus*
>>740798507I have the steam version of the game, does it have it already like the GOG version (apparently?) or nah?>>740798810...Gues not, lmao.I will do that. I am currently eating.
>>740797552Focus on firearms. It will feel horrible in the early game but melee falls off hard late game. I hate the combat in general but the story is great.
>>740798947I also don't remember if the unofficial patch enables widescreen by default. Well you'll notice if it doesn't, lol
>>740798570I did fucking open it on my first run, curiosity got the better of me despite the game warning me ever since Santa Monica beach
>>740799393Hah, dumbass.
>>740798947>does it have it already like the GOG version (apparently?) or nah?No, the Steam version doesn't have any extra patches so you'll need to install one.>>740799283It enables widescreen by default.
>>740799283>>740799660I'll keep that in mind.Damn, good fajitas.
Worst combat in any game I've ever played, but in terms of writing, characters, and atmosphere, it's peak western RPG
>>740799770>Worst combat in any game I've ever playedso you've played like three or four games?vtmb has decent combat if you understand the mechanics and make use of everything it gives you. the tutorial doesn't do a great job explaining how melee works though which is the cause of some complaints. but then you have a bunch of people saying the combat sucks when they put no points into combat stats lol
DANCE, YOU FOOL!!!
>>740797552Don’t Open It
>>740799914I dumped all of my points into combat stats and just bruteforced every combat encounter, because there's no proper evade function. Blocking doesn't work at all and melee combat essentially boils down to rock em sock em robots. Of all the fucking hills to die on, it's VTMB's combat fucking lmao
>>740800341Sewers are samey but are also full of soul, due to the minimalism, and the fact that they wouldn't have been made today because of focus group testing. Kinda like the last breath of boomer shooters.
>>740797552So sad that we will never get a proper sequel
>>740797552Meeting a former member of the Chinese Herbal Remedies forces.
>>740800704Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happenedBesides, have you seen Eternal Whispers? We're getting a Disco clone
>>740800884Yes, but it has the stink of V5 on it.
>>740797552play MALK first
>>740801079Every piece of VTM media made after 2018 is gonna have the stink of V5 on it, Paradox won't let you use the brand otherwise.
>>740797552Play Fem malk and smooch officer Chunk, it's the only way to enjoy this game
>>740801858I think there is a mod for CK (forget which one) that doesn’t have it. Shame, would kill for a V20 game.
Okay /v/irgins, I have devoured my fajitas and installed the patch (correctly, I hope?)Time to game.
>>740798507>plus version is basically a complete overhaul of the gameThis is such fucking hyperbole. The most significant thing it adds is a few new sidequest maps.
Overrated piece of jank. Santa Monica is S-tier. Hollywood and Downtown are okay. After that the game isn't worth playing. It's basically like an elaborate demo for what could have been a really good game.
>>740802705Don't come back, until you do.
>>740800341Blocking reduces damage taken. Melee attacks lose their effectiveness the more you use the same type of attack, so you're supposed to mix it up.But in reality it's best to just crouch and use melee weapons first swing of the forward attack with the right timing so you don't start the combo animation.
>>740800341>Blocking doesn't work at allyou need points in dex for blocking>melee combat essentially boils down to rock em sock em robotsyou made use of the directional combos and didn't just button mash?i'm not saying vtmb has the best combat ever but saying it's the worst is just exaggerating and complaints about it often come from people who were doing something wrong
>>740797552great atmosphere, music, characters, overworld and dialogues, with absolutely shit, terrible combat and action sequences. you probably won't mind the latter because the game is insanely immersive
>>740802789Nah. It adds a hefty amount of various other changes. Maybe (You) just don't notice them. A good amount of dialogue changes, changes to level design, game balance is heavily altered sometimes, needing to use Blood Heal, changes to music, a bunch of cutscene changes. Wesp really has gone through and tried to change as much as possible for the plus version. It's why there has been so much backlash for it as time went on.
>>740803526Yeah, his intentions were good, but after a while he just started jorkin it for the fuck of it.
>>740797552Some of the best dialog and voice acting in any game ever.Peak immersion and vibes.Mediocre gameplay.The last 1/4th of the game being rushed dogshit.If you can get into the lore/setting, legitimately a gateway drug into VTM/WoD autism, one of my favorite settings ever.Don't even think about the sequel. Everyone collectively agreed to just pretend it doesn't exist. It's terrible.Play Malk first if you want to, don't listen to the retards. It rewrites every line of player dialog in the game, and adds unique interactions to pretty much every NPC. And the confusion you may experience is a part of the experience.
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Man I just want another game where you roleplay as a bloodsuckerIt doesn't even have to be WoD.
>>740798387I usually found dialogue in most RPGs to be pretty boring. I enjoyed it with Malkavian because it gave you something to do other than basic pick your path responses.
>>740797552Enjoy bro. I played VTMB probably a decade ago but didn't beat it. I got to the brothers boss fight and stopped.I finally beat the game last year because I felt determined to finish it and installed the community patch.
>>740804502love this corny shit in games>it is all set in motion... THINGS will happen... they will be... SIGNIFICANT
>>740797552make sure you download the patch make sure you save your money in prep for for the last 3 missions they are no joke>>740801378why? my first playthru was a toreadorshe had a lot of rude dialogue options is it because she was toreador
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>>740805929My issue is that I don't like Toreador as a clan, but hot damn are they busted in combat and dialogue.
Joss wheadon cringe writing, horrible combat, shit rpg mechanics and low-budget 90s PC gameplaythis board sucks it off so much but its so horrible its unreal
>>740806648why do you not like toreadors? in terms of combat wouldnt the mages be top tier as usual? i was thinking of trying to go for a tremere playthru next time around
>>740806949>Joss wheadon cringe writing, horrible combat, shit rpg mechanics and low-budget 90s PC gameplay>this board sucks it off so much but its so horrible its unreal
>>740807089I usually play Tremere and blood magic is strong, yes, but Celerity is arguably better, alongside Auspex and Presence.
Dont be mean to my wife, or I'll find you
>>740797552The textbook definition of Frontloading a game. Everything after the first 4 hours is pretty tedious and annoying, and the story loses steam around the midpoint but the early game is great and a fun introduction to WOD.
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>>740797552Amazing characters, writing and world building, fucking awful combat. Pick anyone but nosferatu or Malkavian, former turns the game into a pure stealth game and the later has "prophetic madness" meaning some dialog hints to hard at upcoming twist and the wackyer stuff makes some quest hard to understand. Malkavian is basically the equivalent of playing a retard in fallout, not having the baseline of the actual vanilla story makes it pointless.Ignore jack in the tutorial guns are absolutely vital for later bosses, also high stealth can be absolutely cheesed. There's lots of running back and fourth but is only frustrating in downtown because of its size. The game was pushed out the door so the further you get in the more clear how untested the game is, so don't feel bad for using commands to cheat past the absolutely shit parts.
>>740807371>Celeritythats the one that lets you run fast? after upgrading it, its so much fun
i kinda want damsel to beat the shit out of me and spit in my mouth, but she wont do that because she has a heart of gold even if its not beatinganyway, i wish there was an anarch route where i get to run quests with them instead
>>740809854That's the one. Toreador can lean into ranged combat, and guns with bullet-time is a joy to experience in VTMB. Tremere is a great clan from a meta perspective, but Toreador and arguably Venture have a better assortment of powers, though I always prefer Tremere and Malkavian on replays.
>>740797552What stopped you from playing it in the past?
i really wonder what VV saw in that movie script guy
>>740811006I don't think she saw anything; she's a manipulative Toreador making you do her dirty work to prevent a breach of the Masquerade.
>>740800884>Besides, have you seen Eternal Whispers? We're getting a Disco cloneThis nigga is really excited over a lazy Disco clone where you play as a premade Sabbat elder with a wise cracking side kick.
>>740811006I actually thought he was a reference to David Hayter considering he actually wrote a couple of scripts himself
One of my favorite games. Guns are actually better than you would expect, the default clans you are pushed to start with have starting bonuses with them. You won't feel it being too powerful until you get the revolver.
>>740810950>Malkaviani like malkalvian outfits best
>>740811157thats every mission desu, as a neonite, you are getting made to do dirty work by everyone until they decide to do away with you
>>740811519Yep. Only reason they don't fuck with you more is that you are technically under the Prince's protection.
>>740811157not sure if its because i was also a toreador, but after the mission she kept sending thirst mail to my computer
>>740811619what if i go join nines and them instead?
>>740811006Lots of stuff Hollywood forward feels incomplete but she felt the most incomplete for how striking she seemed. Is she an established wod character or just an undercooked game original?>>740811157She clearly all about manipulating you but she does specifically tell you not to kill him, if she didn't care why not let you kill him
>>740811720Go for it. The wider community thinks you're a mindless stooge for LaCroix. Be a rebel.
>>740811846I'd argue a random slaying in Hollywood would bring more hunters to her doorstep, but the place is fuckin' crawling with them and you do nothing but make it more dangerous regardless of your (in)action.
Have fun, anon, I finally got around to starting the game like 3 weeks ago and I THINK I'm nearing the end. Do NOT pick malkavian for your first run, your character is basically a walking spoiler.
>>740811619>under the Prince's protection.i would like to dispute that claim if you are OP do not read any further because spoilers>prince is new to city>everyone seems to distrust him at best if they do not outright hate him>the ending indicates to me that there were a few different plots to over throw his assi really wish they let you blow that twink's head off at the end
>>740812013i would say to avoid nosferatu on first playthru as well just being SEEN is a violation in of itself
>>740812243oh yeah, definitely avoid nosferatu aswell
>>740803526I noticed the changes, I just didn't think any of them really detracted from the game. If they suck or not is subjective, but I would argue it does not change the experience THAT much, and they're mostly tasteful enough.
I loved VTMB so much back in the day that I actually read all the Clan Novels and the novel that canonized the cabby not being Caine, because WW wanted that shitty fucking book to be canon. Some of the worst dogshit I've ever read to be honest, I still remember the Giovanni book having some sluts biting a dude's boner and it going into explicit detail about how it felt like lava going through his dick because Giovanni are the only vamps whose bite causes pain rather than pleasure. It's honestly amazing how well Troika did adapting VTM considering how much of a fucking mess the actual setting is.
Bush administration XDDDD
>>740797552First off, play with the unofficial patch. I'm sure you've heard that a billion times, but it's said because it's necessary.https://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-unofficial-patchSecond, you'll find that VTMB is one of the most immersive modern vampire games to be played, if not the only one, on top of being an excellent RPG. You won't really know how great the RPG stuff is until you've played numerous clans.
>>740812576>modernisnt it a classic at this point? its ~20 years old
>>740812082I don't disagree, but plans are significantly different than an actual overthrow. They put up a front of being obedient to LaCroix but they don't actually give a shit, hence why nobody but loyalists actually assist you.
>>740797625The patch in its current form ruins the game as far as I'm concerned. The best option is to find a version from 2010-2011 if you're able to.
>>740813114 in the final confrontation strauss appears and takes the prince away though? and congratulates you
>>740813226>The patch in its current form ruins the gamehow so?
>tfw Nosferatu irl but without all the cool powers and underground hacker bunker with your bros
>>740813334Adds way too much unnecessary bullshit. Last time I played was 2014 and even back then I thought it was excessive I can't even imagine how shitty it is now. Just download an older version of the patch.
>>740813252True. He even hints that he wants to rule if you have enough persuasion and/or are Tremere. The establishment wants to oust the French upstart and 'uses' you to accomplish its goals, provided you side with them.
>>740809682I agree
>>740813575Nice Carpet
>>740813575You know, it's been 20+ years and I don't even remember any longer; is she originally here or do her and Skelter swap places with the patch?
>>740813457ngl when i was sitting in the back of that cab i was fantasizing about shooting the prince and then taking rule for myself but i guess the bigger fish will always grab the grub first...
>>740813878when i played a few months ago that is where skelter was, with the biker dude being across from him damsel was upstairs with ninesi feel bad for avoiding him because of how much he helps you at the end
>>740814202I don't think Jack has ever moved, but I do recall the other 2 Anarchs being swapped. No clue when that happened, though.
>>740813878She is originally there, floor level.I only play version 1.0 unpatched, where the game ends after you kill Bach.
Okay, lads. I'm not gonna lie this gameplay is pretty damn jank. Killing that miami vice nigger and his butt pirates was already somewhat uncomfortable purely from a mechanical standpoint. HOWEVER, voice acting and writing? I can already tell this is gonna be sweet.LaCroix seems like prissy fag.
>>740812496Agreed. I think all of them at least last I saw were in line with the core experience of the game and only enhanced things further, rather than being a completely different game or whatever. I don't remember, with the latest Wesp Unofficial Patch Plus, is the Clan Quest Mod still compatible? Worthwhile for a first time player?
>>740815892Dance, neonate. Dance!
>>740797552>ctrl + f>rudi>no results
>>740815892dancing for like 5 minutes gives you a humanity point btw
>>740800341Combat isn't just melee though.Abilities are pretty good, even just healing/utility to aid combat.Also don't listen to the hobo about guns, he's dumb.
>>740815892>LaCroix seems like prissy fag.he is lol he is even named after a gay soda
>>740808438The fact that nobody makes SFM anything with the minor character models is terrible
>>740798947Goddamn I read pregnant
>>740815892Just buy Thaumaturgy fag and win every combat if you don't like how it feels
>>740816405agreed maybe they can clean up the models a bit too
>>740797552Choose very carefully. Choices matter in this vidya.
I never played as nosferatu because I don't like to play as ugly characters
>>740818727Yeah people often play vidya for escapism
>>740818727it's funny though
>>740797552one of the worst games you will ever play>>740797625 this is a niggerfaggot troon
>>740806949very good post
>>740797552
>>740818727You can harass all of the women and it's funnier
>>740816405Why is Misty from the first season of pokemon working in THAT profession?
>>740806648>I don't like Toreador as a clanhatus cuz they anus
>>740815892oh yeah its jank.jank but with soul to it.take in the music from time to time as well.they got a number of unused tracks for characters that you can find on youtube as well.
>>740797552Disappointment on par with how your parents feel about you.....https://jumpshare.com/share/07QF8XQwqHQxzP6Wg0r0!!!FACT!!!
I only ever played Redemption and liked it. Is this better?
I'm done for tonight guys. I got some quests done. Killed that prosthetics guy and saved the surfer girl. Seems I got full humanity points. Tomorrow it's ghost busting time.Don't know if I wanna find a replacement in the blood bank, that greaser is fucking sketchy.
>>740823475The problem is you need the blood bank, best way to get blood without cheats
I wanted to ask, do ALL clans get unique dialogues or only malks and nosferatu?
>>740827336Just those two I believe. And you're reminding me I need to do a Nosferatu playthrough at some point.
