Comfy Ocarina of Time thread for oldfags, what're we hoping for in this remake besides non-linear open world design?
>>740802797I may not look like it, but I am filled with negativity.
>>740802797Realistically, what could they improve on? OOT was already the perfect game.
>>740802797>non-linear open world designOnly brain dead niggers want that you fuckin faggot you keep making threads saying this like everyone wants it because you're a fucking nintendo shill that thinks we're all retarded nigger cattle no one wants that dogshit you worthless fucking nigger-retard
>HIRE THIS MAN
>>740802797>what're we hoping for in this remake besides non-linear open world design?What do you even mean by that? I'd want more optional things to do, including a possible new 'end game' that might meaningfully affect the ending (like how the masks could MM's ending sequence) and I'd want more emphasis on the freedom the game naturally provides (like being able to get past the rocks in the river given Jabu doesn't require bombs). But no, 'open world' emphasizes randomly wandering around doing menial tasks in ways that wouldn't improve OoT, even if I would like more overworld sections.
>>740803051Literally every single thing in the game could stand to be improved.
>>740803152It makes little sense not to design open ended and expansive games these days. You're not limited in budget, talent, hardware, tools to develop the games. There's no reason to make a corridor level design in 2026.
>>740803238>What do you even mean by that?Tackling the dungeons in any order, and spending hours doing all kinds of cool objectives before realizing "holy shit, I haven't been to the first dungeon yet in ten hours".
>>740803360by that logic why should the game even end? continual updates and live service
The greatest fishing minigame of all time.
>>740803360Is that what they brainwashed you to think or told you to say fucking retarded shill faggot
>>740802797>Not fucking BOTW please GOD>Original Zelda 1/ALLTP like open world which is kinda what OOT already had, just implemented better, pure open world is killing games, performance and game design, stop forcing it>More temples, add in more content, add in the missing stuff that never made it and the planned content for the 64DD>Don't change the music and if they do, an option to use the regular classic music ASAP>Change temple layout and make them bigger>Difficulty options>Master Quest (they'll probably do this one as DLC, if they're not retarded they'll spice it up with extra things)>A lot more extras, hidden storylines, locations, etcWe're already not getting my number 1 hope which was a stylized heavy shadows/directed lights artstyle to emulate the original art, and Links shitty tunic and the weird extras around it is what makes me wary, not the art style itself which isn't even realistic.It's the fact that they're just adding in random shit to add "more detail" to the MAIN CHARACTER so I can't even imagine how others will look like, Ganondorf is gonna look like fucking Kefka
>>740802797The T in CRT stands for Tranny btw
Put some more shit to do in Hyrule Field. Why the fuck is it less dangerous after Ganondorf takes over?
>>740802797>Non-linearNice bait, now I'm uncomfy.
>>740802797You will never be a Zelda fan and your games will never be Zelda. Anyone who bought or defended BOTW is forever a tourist.
>>740803685Realistically because they couldn't fit it in and didn't had time.Technically because with Ganondorf at the helm monsters are now able to go wherever the fuck they want and take over settlements, they don't have to hole themselves in desolated places they can just take over previously empty or protected areas, sadly we didn't see much of any.
I want to be able to take my child-wife Princess Zelda on a date.
A cancellation
>>740803453>Tackling the dungeons in any orderWhat do you even mean this, seriously? The plot necessitates certain dungeons have to be done before others, but otherwise the game is very freeform with only a few things (like the river rocks that need bombs, and Shadow requiring you to beat three other dungeons straight up) actually blocking you.
>>740803360>It makes little sense not to design open ended and expansive games these days. If the goal is to get the most inflated possible review scores and sales, then yeah, you're right. If the goal is to make a good game, chasing the open slop fad makes no sense at all.>You're not limited in budget, talent, hardware, tools to develop the games.The idea that actual game design and level design were "limitations" to be transcended, not the entire point of a game, is one of the biggest cancers killing the medium. You never touched a controller in your life until 2007 at the earliest.
>Nintendo hired that man.If this does well, expect Nintendo to pull a Disney with every single successful game they ever had
>>740803826>Realistically because they couldn't fit it in and didn't had time.But now they can fix that. Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic game. Ocarina of Time will be that game. Better than it was before. Better... stronger... faster.
>>740803738oot was already kinda non linear, it tried to follow in the steps of earlier zeldas but the inclusion of story and cutscenes meant that more linearity was mandatory.botw tried to be more open and like the older zelda games but completely fucked it up by making it too big, way too fucking empty and when you finally find something its completely fucking inconsequential and boring, plus the god forsaken choice of making things breakideally a proper oot would be more open ended and with more dungeons but without going full retard like botw, a great way to do this would be adding more mini dungeons and side locationsfor example you'd get ice arrows in a difficult side dungeon somewhere near Zoras Domain instead of the Gerudo grounds and the ice arrows would serve as a side upgrade to help beat water dungeons and more difficult enemies, while the Gerudo Grounds get reworked and expanded to give you a different item or bonus or whatever that fits the almost end of the game
I mean, if anyone can optimize the dumpster fire the unreal engine has become...Rooting for them honestly
>a single sequence fork in a linear game makes it non-linear.Technically correct, but come on
Unless they add new content what's the point? The 3DS version was as good an update as it could possibly be
>>740804378>a single sequence forkI don't even know what you mean. What 'fork' are you on about?
The game will be censored and the localization will be censored even worse and rewritten.
>>740804378I mean you can do several things in different order, the only limiting factor is finishing x thing after y thing.Everything is accessible asap, you can do shit like half of dodongos cavern then do the entire Zora shit, spirit can be done before shadow, shadow can be done without lens, you can do water temple before fire and forest and vice versa, etc.There's some enforced linearity mostly for story reasons, to make sure the player doesn't get stuck somewhere and a couple are not necessary but they're still there, but the game is not strictly linear sans one different thing, it GUIDES you to do it like that in a couple situations but you don't HAVE to.
>>740803152Kek. Botw tranny having a melty
Navi: Focus L...
It's going to be a downgrade in every measure, just like every other remake
>>740803642obsessed nigga
>>740802797Fuck off you larping BotWtranny fuck.
>>740802797Although i kinda feel like you are b8ting with how you ended that statement I actually would like to be able to do more of the adult dungeons out of order (you already can do water before fire and spirit before shadow), but i dont think open world would work/be a good idea.In general id just want them to expand on the areas and characters, more minigames, more of a story for malon, some side quests beside the trading quest etc.
I have perverted thoughts about young Link.
>>740802797Where can I get the native pc port?
If it's just an asset reskin I will die laughing
>>740803284So could your post quality, yet you find it to be acceptable as is.Maybe actually answer anon's question instead of blanket contrarianism.
>>740802797I'm a 20 year old zoomer that played Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D on the 3DS when I was 8 years old. It was my favorite video game of my childhood. The millennials were right. This game is really, really, really good. For once in my life, I am excited for a new upcoming game. The remake is going to be amazing, anons. Can't wait for it. I just need to buy a switch 2 though...
>>740802797>$80 base games are now normalized thanks to the cultists Tendies are the biggest dick suckers and no one even comes close
>>740802797I already got my remake on 3DS. I want this to go full on FF7 Remake retarded. I want the Downfall timeline experience. I want future dead Dorf sending phantom ganon time spooks into the past. I want a playable Sheik/Zelda post game where she tries to save Link's deified spirit from the sacred realm after his death inorder to defeat a rampaging Ganon just fucking shit up. I want new dungeons, including scrapped ones. I want UraZelda in spirit, a similar but totally different experience. If this is just a 1:1 remake, i have about zero interest in it.
As much as i fucking hate botw and its open world, kid me always wanted OoT2 with an Elder Scrolls type big ass world, so if they are planning that, this will be either the best or worst thing possible.
>>740802797Majoras Mask DLC a year or two later
>>740803642Actually it stands for "Tube".
>>740804378There are multiple orders in which you can do the adult dungeons, it isn't just a single branch.
Not gonna lie judging from /v/'s threads about this game its gonna be a while before we can have any "comfy" threads about this game. Everybody is baiting or constantly on edge and it drowns out the actual good faith discussions that do happen, frankly that stuff just gets tiresome after a while
>>740802797>restore and/or add most of the content that was cut from the original game>turn Bottom of the Well and Ice Cavern into full real dungeons>make Medallions equippable as originally intended>make Fire and Ice Arrows be more important for gameplay>have the Ice Arrows be the Ice Cavern reward as originally intended and have them be mandatory for the Water Temple>return toggable boots like in OoT 3D>add Master Mode from the beginning>add a Cave of Ordeals>a true one on one sword fight against Ganondorf instead of him being Phantom Ganon 2.0Just expand on everything, add more content to the original game and don't make it easier, that's all I'm asking for. OoT is by far the most important Zelda game in the series, Nintendo really needs to not screw this up.>what're we hoping for in this remake besides non-linear open world design?Fuck your open world bullshit.
>>740803453>>740803360there's nothing cool about thiseven in the last few zeldas that were linear they still had this horrible symptom where you use an item for one dungeon and nothing compounds and adds depth to each other, no dungeons that require multiple items to get througheventually you end up with something like Link Between Worlds where they just give you a shop at the start of the game to get everything item.
>>740802797a toggle for boots and such so i don't have to open menus to get to them
It would be awesome to see this concept art realized in gameplay and actually have shiek play more of an active role than just giving you a few songs and getting tossed around by invisible bongo bongo
To me the funniest shit would be if they do the spooky time nigger jannies like FF7at least OoT actually has time fuckery to facilitate it.
>>740807287This is why Smash gave her a knife for her final smash.
>>740804821This is so stupid because why would you ever stop halfway through the dungeon for no reason instead of just finishing it? There's no reason not to once you get the dungeon item other than to force an artificial forced non-linearity on the game. The only the real non-linearity in Ocarina of Time is doing the Shadow Temple or Spirit Temple in either order. That's it.
>>740806857>make Medallions equippable as originally intendedi think the issue with that is that they already reused their effects for Farore's Wind, Din's Fire and Nayru's Love and i dont see what they could do to make them all useful and different.Some kind of progression for each sage you rescue would be nice though
>>740803570>Not Botw>but like BotwI see
>>740804015are you retarded
I still can't over the autism vest they gave him
>>740804125>open world >fad
I would like to see this done in BoTW style, but with the return to dungeon tools opening up exploration in the overworld, remove climbing and gliding. Maybe slightly tone down the size of the world to make it more content dense.
>oldfags>being excited for yet another terrible remakeAwful bait
>>740805329>it's bait>but I agree
>>740807912Trying way too hard.It takes effort to be so unwitty.
>>740803051what if there's a second story you unlock after zelda sends you back in time set before majora's mask
>>740805574That sounds cool as fuck.
>>740808115you're a faggot for liking the leather vest.
>>740806763It makes it all the comfier, you're part of an elite club of gamers if you enjoy this remake of this game.
>>740807517you can do fire and water temple in any order as well
>>740802797More zelda girls
>>740802797>oldfagsyou arent one and you should kill yourself
>>740806763>Not gonna lie judging from /v/'s threads about this game its gonna be a while before we can have any "comfy" threads about this gameIt's Zelda, it's always going to be shitposted by the usual schizos who have been shitposting BotW threads for almost a decade. If you really want to discuss the game, you're better buying it as soon as it releases, because after a month the threads will be filled with nothing but falseflaggers.
>>740807542First you ditch the spells, merge them back with medallions. The difficult part is that all 6 need arrow types as well.-green arrows act like boomerang and knock enemies down-blue arrows slow enemies down and they can slip and be knocked down-orange arrows make enemies drop hearts and a fairy-purple arrows make enemies drop magic and turn them into stalfos variantsThe spells are fun too-purple spell turns you invisible-orange spell converts magic to health-yellow spell converts health to magic
>>740808162that fangame was pretty meh apart from the custom final boss
>>740808445Water temple has rusted switches
as much as im weary about the changes in links tunic i kinda think they had to try something new. It just looks a bit odd when upressed and put alongside high-rez assets
>>740803360stay away from video games
>>740809161Nope, you are misremembering. I replayed Oot last year and went water temple before fire temple. Only real prerequisite is clearing the ice cavern and getting the iron boots
>>740809239stick to your outdated retro games
>>740802797I just hope the kokiri are done well and the girls are cute, that's pretty much it. I doubt I'll be getting a Switch 2 to play this unless it's truly phenomenal, which it won't be, so all I really care about is the fanart it generates
>>740802797This looks so uninspired. Even the 3ds remake had more SOVL
>>740809396I find it funny that everyone who dies on the hill that Ocarina of Time is open world or non-linear, clearly never ever tackle all the objectives in the game, namely Gold Skulltulas.
>>740809396Oh and the arrows, but those are needed before starting either water or fire temple
>>740809396>>740809161i think it has them in master quest but master quest is a meme really.
>>740803051>what could they improve on?Better graphics, better music, non empty as shit world, more npcs, more towns, more enemies, better story, better gameplay.
>>740805329good lord, I never noticed you can see the outline of malon's BELLY in this drawingUOOOHHH
>>740803152>like everyone wants itMost people want it.
>>740809510you cant get all the skultulas in deku tree or dodongos cavern on your first visit either. Idk but sayiong a dungeon you can complete isnt able to be done out of order just because you cant 100% it is a bit silly
You are smoking crack if you think they will do anything but make the graphics look slightly better and take a shit on the classic models and lighting
>>740805507>contrarianismDon't use words you don't know the meaning of.
I really want to see the new malon model
>>740803453I hate that. I'd rather OoT remain an adventure rather than a big pointless wandering around doing whatever game. Exploration is fine but it shouldn't be everything. I'd rather a big world with some natural progression to it tied to progress in the story. It'll be a sad day when OoT becomes one of those digital theme parks where people say>Story? lol who gives a shit I just spent 4 hours chasing frogs and another 3 hours building my sekret clubhouse and I haven't gone to the first town lolGrim fucking shit
voiced or not voice?
>>740807736BotW's open world design isn't the same as Zelda 1 or LttP, and that lie needs to stop now.
Oppai Link or no buy. Remakes factually exist solely to exploit legacy anyway.
>>740809825I'm chuckling because you're all "you're misremembering!" and you don't remember that what he said is actually true, and you brush off completing the dungeon yourself. Saying he got it wrong just because you don't 100% is a bit silly.
>>740810043Watch the trailer. That's going to be the opening of the game.
>>740810043It'll be like BOTW because of MS. Regular interactions are just noises, cutscenes are voiced.
>>740805574the brain damage FF7R did to contrarians and pretentious assholes cannot be understated
>>740809818Fuck em, go dick around in Crimson Desert or play a dying mmo
>>740810027>I'd rather OoT remain an adventurepure word salad
>>740809208i'm sure the adult tunic will also look very different from the child one>>740809409not every video games has to be open air sandbox with no rules, maybe you should stick to tech engines
>>740810060Retard.
>>740810248lol I will just play Ocarina of Time
>>740810360>aesthetic similarity = gameplay similarityfuck you're dumb
>spending hours doing all kinds of boring fillerftfy anon
>>740803051Hyrule Field sucks and has very little worth exploring imho. Everything else is perfect
I'm curious to see what choices they made for the ugly characters. the zoras, but some humans are also really freaky. And there are the Gerudo's noses...
>>740810786this
>>740807919Yes, fad. Doesn't matter how long it lasts, this slop will never be accepted as true game design by enthusiasts.
I like OoT.I like BotW.OoT should NOT be BotW.
>>740809818>7.54 million people bought an unbeatable game
>>740802797If Link moves as smooth as he does in BOTW/TOTK with how fast he can draw his bow or swing his sword and return back to a neutral stance and has free jumping I hope the game is redesigned to accommodate for all that.If it is using the Module engine like Splatoon 3 and TOTK I'm excited to see how Link's classic armaments like the hookshot and how swimming specifically works.In the 3DS remake they added a few forward-facing easter eggs, e.g. Link will now twirl his sword like his descendant TP Link when idle during combat. So I'm wondering if they'll add any new stuff especially with how Ocarina basically became the lodestar for the entire franchise up until BOTW.
>>740810360He's right you retarded BotWtranny. Aonuma fucking hated Zelda 1 because he couldn't even finish it.
over all im hopeful. Aside from his head looking to adult for his body I think the little bit of asset weve seen looks good. I like that his tunic looks woven from grass. Id like Hyrule field to be more filled in. or atleast have more hidden secrets like TPs field did. The main thing is better combat. OoT original combat could be a little mind numbing at times, since some enemies are literally designed to only be hit once in a cycle, and I also want enemies to do real damage and not just a quarter of a heart.>Gerudo are actually a good example of an enemy thats actually fun to fight>dynamic fast with multiple ways to engage, no fight feels the same>can literally only fight like 5 of them in a single playthrough
>>740802797Anyone suggesting anything from botw can fuck off; you just had two versions of it, let the classic kings get their series back
>>740810109low quality b8 m8, there isnt a rusted witch in the water templehttps://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Rusty_Switchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbghTXbh2vs
>>740809857If that's all they did, they would have shown gameplay. They're hiding it because it's been butchered so much worse than that.
Without a randomizer there's no reason for me to drop money on a remake. Even if it had one it wouldn't have the multitude of tricks and exploits that allow it to be played in a non linear fashion.
Predictions for music?>they will either over-orchestrate the hell out of some tracks making them messy and obscuring the catchy melodies or go full on botw minimalist>dungeon tracks will be replaced with more conventional songs based around each dungeon's respective ocarina song
>Link can now beatbox while playing
Did you guys react to the beads on his hat, yet? Or did I miss that
>>740811448It'll just be a more subdued version of the OG tracks that build in intensity as you progress through the dungeon, and then like OoT 3DS they put the classic main theme blaring triumphantly during the credits.
>>740810248>Fuck emYou're in the minority here. Most people like Botw & Totk, so it makes no financial sense for them to not make a OoT remake like them. You lost. The original will always exist, just play that until you die.
>>740807837Are you? You aren't doing Spirit before the fucking Deku Tree.
>>740802797So what actually is the Water Temple and why is it so bad that it ruined some youtuber's life?
>>740811448It will be turned off by default and unlocked for NG+ by a $80 Amiibo.
>>740802797The blue thing is triggering my autism
who at Nintendo thought people wanted realism in their games? UE5 trannies have done tremendous damage to the tendies..
I've noticed the word 'comfy' is synonymous with being a rube
>740811571Trying too hard makes your shitposting too obvious.
>>740809510>clearly never ever tackle all the objectives in the game, namely Gold Skulltulas.By this logic BotW isn't open world, because it has multi part quests and things that require you do stuff before other things become available.
>>740802797>>740803152Oot is already non-linear open-world though.
>>740811379Anyone suggesting anything from other than botw can fuck off; you just had five versions of it, let the true classic kings keep their series.
>>740810275All of your snide little comments itt make you sound like a huge fag
>>740811596It's either Dark Link being the hardest enemy in the game during your first playthrough or not realizing that there's a lower floor in the room in the middle of the temple.
>>740811596The water temple's main problem is that you have to constantly fuck with the water levels so you can swim around, which can be hard to keep track of and to move around vertically you have to go in and out of the menu constantly to change what boots Link is wearing. Also one room needed to progress can be hard to find.The 3DS remake fixes it by putting markers on the wall near where you can change the water levels, using the modern iron boots system where Link can just toggle them on and off like an item without needing to pause, and the camera will briefly guide you towards where that one hard-to-notice room is.I would say just the iron boots tune up alone makes the water temple actually fun to go through but going through in the 90s on the N64 was a test of patience and otherwise a speed bump in a legendary experience.
I guess Im hoping for more content like quests townfolk give like MM had. Also its crazy how we are getting second generation remakes
>>740811756You fags dont know how logic works.
>>740811785That webm still looks better than most modern games.
>>740809709>non empty as shit world, more npcs, more towns, more enemies,unironically all i need. both hyrule field and the main town (although to a lesser degree) feel so empty. it'd be nice if the world felt more lived in
>>740802797it looks ass, they are gonna botw this shit and i have no faith in nintendo, the 3ds remake was dogshit
>>740811448I expect it to be identical to the ZREO remix. Overly modernized, with soulful MIDIs and synths replaced by live instruments playing
>>740802797@fugtrup
>>740811930Skultulas are a deliberately optional thing that, as others have pointed out, are intended to require items form other dungeons that wouldn't be needed for that dungeon's completion. By your argument, OoT couldn't be completed in ANY order, because Deku Tree and Dodongo skultula require items from later dungeons to get. You're being disingenuous as fuck. The game is borderline open.
>>740802797I mostly hope they keep the eerie atmosphere in the dungeons, and that they keep the gameplay mostly the same, even if they populate Hyrule Field more and make it a bit bigger. I dread the idea of breakable weapons and a jump button in OoT.
>>740811454>dedicated ocarina button>if you haven't unlocked the ocarina yet you just beatboxKino.
>>740803051Huge, empty open world needs more locations and maybe some contextually generated quests to make things more interesting
>>740802797>ign top 100 games of all time list>number 4: ocarina of time>number 3: breath of the wild>number 2: tears of the kingdom >number 1: ocarina of time (remake)
>>740812262They will make the world 100x bigger but put in the same amount of content. It's going to be Elden Ring all over again…
I hope wherever they decide to put the franchise's main theme hits hard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaMiNDpLVMw
>>740811889>>740811895thanks
>>740802797Expand character interactions, side stories, and items you can use. For example, add some other weapons than just the master sword/biggoron's sword.DO NOT just add a million arbitrary collectibles and randomly generated micropuzzle areas, shit is not interestingFor example, you could add additional masks to the happy mask quest line, and while doing it, you must enter new side areas with smaller puzzles or minigames and complete them to proceed the quest line and sell the mask.
My oldfag opinion is that an OoT remake is completely needless and it reeks of desperation on Nintendo's part.
>>740803152>falling for a false flagging snoygger's baitMassive retard.Feel some shame.
>>740802797>Ganondorf coming flying at you with a punch in his fight like he does in this official art>Link and Sheik team up to fight a bunch of monsters, like in that other official art>as much unchanged dialogue as possible, especially for Deku Tree, Zelda and Ganondorf. The stuff they wrote for BotW/TotK was really dull>enemies like Stalfos and Lizal/Dinolfos have more tricks in combat>Club Moblin appears more than once>Gerudo Valley song is made even better somehow>10x cuter Saria
>>740806763Where have you been for the last 8 years?Zelda threads are deliberately ruined due to certain niggers
>>740802797I think it would be cool if in Hyrule Field at night, a ton of more skeletons spawn continuously so it's like World At War Nacht Der Untoten but in a zelda game
>>740803051If it has extra stuff like light temple / sacred realm and thawing zora's domain in the adult timeline it might be ludokino.If it's just OoT HD with dual analog camera controls and extra item buttons then it's worthless.
>>740802797Looks like shit already.I'm tired of remakes, I want something good and new.
I think it's going to look weird
>>740802797I am curious to see just how much they add to Hyrule Field. The sense of scale in hyrule can afford to grow a bit
>>740814018>will now give me nightmaresAre you 12?
>all of Hyrule's water runs through my ass and balls>in HD
>>740813760If they add the Light Temple, wouldn't it allow you to freely visit the sages whenever you wanted, thus making the sadness involved with them becoming sages kinda toned down?
>>740803051Your favorite band is The Beatles. Your favorite movie is Forrest Gump. Your favorite meal is unsalted mashed potatoes, white bread, and rice. Die. DIE!
>>740814801Deranged.
>>740802797
>>740803051By giving it epic SOULS-LIKE combat.
>>740815516I hope we get some wind waker combo lines.
>>740814890Your favorite anime is Dragon Ball Z. You laugh along to the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.
>>740802797what does "showing its age" even mean in regards to oot? aside from the iron boots stuff (which really isn't THAT bad but yea it's still annoying), i don't think there's a single thing in the game that has me saying "man this shit is annoying but whatever it was 1998"
>>740802797DamnHow is eric taking the news
>>740815837You'll get one right eventually.
>>740815837>>740816079Eric is not taking the news well
Another thread is shitposting about it, but whow would you feel if they expanded the game and made it into multiple parts like FF7 remake?
>>74080981814.6m meant a lot more in 1998 than 35m did in 2017(You) are retarded
>>740815332Suprised no one talked about the beads
>>740815516Souls combat is basically OOT-LIKEAnything from souls would probably fit OOT like a glove
>>740802797Closeups of shota Link feet
Years ago replaying OoT I found things that could lead up to a new game with the hero of time, or an expansion to the original in a remakeThe hero of time wasn't a name made up for link after his adventure, it comes from a sheikah legend that spoke of the hero of time. TotK shows the master sword having time powers but it actually always had them because the sword was the one who chooses who the hero of time will be. Zelda having time powers was also first seen in OoT and not TotK because she was having prophetic dreams about meeting Link. >prophetic dreams that begin the adventure>zelda feeling as if link's name is familiar >the legend of the hero of time already existing>the master sword being the one who decides who will be the hero of time>navi randomly leaving after the adventure is done with no explanation or resolution even in the 3 OoT sequelsIf there's an expanded story or future game then it's probably about how there was even a legend in the first place and it's probably going to be a bootstrap paradox where link travelled to the past and created his own legend, or it could be a zelda expansion story where she creates it hence the title The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, maybe it will be a Sheik game
>>740802797>Twilight Princess Remake announced next>Midna is lobotomized, so that way they can try and force Zelda to be a more appealing character
>>740802797>what're we hoping for in this remakeNew content, cut content.>besides non-linear open world design?Nice bait, got me to reply. OoT already has this.
>>740815724I'm not sure if I prefer WW style "everything is The Combo" to OoT where some slashes combo and some just exist. Both are better than BotW offering you the same singular dial-a-combo on everything, though.
>>740816079No, I'm spiritually right. You lack refinement. Your senses are dulled. Your taste withered and atrophied long ago, if it was ever there to begin with.
>>740804378Without including things like the Water Temple ledge jump or bypassing the River of Sand (because that triggers melties) the potential order for Temple order is:>Forest: 1 or 2>Fire: 1, 2, 3 or 4>Water: 2 or 3>Spirit: 3, 4 or 5>Shadow: 4 or 5Ice Cavern, Gerudo Training Ground, and The Well also have flexibility in when you do them.
Hyrule Field is going to get turned into big dumb open world slop, isn't it?
>>740817097I mean it's already big and dumb, so if they keep it the same but put more to do in it, that's something.
I just hope they keep OoT Link's middle part, it's what sets him apart from the other Links and it's iconic
They are going to censor nabooru saying she wants to fuck link after seeing how he looks grown up
>>740816742You are spiritually off your rocker. You are projecting a manifestation of the voices in your own head onto me so you can finally win a real argument with them and find peace. (Which you never will by the way, you are too mentally unwell.)
>>740817443Fuck they probably are aren't they. Just take a big old shit on old themes. I beat Ruto won't be an annoying hag representing the annoyance of marriage.
>>740817524worse, they are going to give her clothing
they're going to censor Link having to eat the sages
>>740817569I do actually like the fin bra though.
>>740816690Another game of dodge flurry rush spam
>>740817443Eh, she just said he grew into a handsome man iirc. It's just a compliment
>>740817097>you have obtained 5 Great Rupees (3)>GOOD JOB LINK, DIDN'T TALON SAY THAT WITH ANOTHER 5 MORE OF THOSE YOU CAN BUY A MASSIVE WEAPON IN GORON CITY??>pop-up screen>"you can determine the location of rupee chests at any time by following Navi">ok>help screen dissapears>another pop-up screen instantly appears>"you can put Epona's song on your song quick-select with the push of a button, try it now!">waits for you to put Epona's song on a keybind>Epona spawns jankily out of the ground under you>REMEMBER, THIS WAY LINKKK!!!
>>740817717Fin bra works if they keep her tits big enough
Great fairy is getting nerfed into a whale again
>>740817792See, that retarded youtube video warped your thinking and now you actually imagine worse things that don't exist.
>>740817792What was I saying again?
>>740817765She then says if she'd known how handsome you'd be she'd have kept her promise. But the sex references are larger than that. It's an entire race of sexy women. They're dressed in sexy outfits. The carpenters are imprisoned to be sex slaves, but they're too gay. You can't enter Gerudo fortress as a Child, the only place you can't go, because it's the land that represents sex. Sexland. Sexland Fortress. It's off limits. The boss of the area turns into a woman that winks suggestively at you, has tits bigger than links head, and kneels suggestively when in a weakened state so you can beat her with your sword. The dungeon itself is a giant woman. Seriously, the whole thing is one big metaphor for having sex, which is part of the process of becoming an adult.
>>740816141It's too kino for Nintendo.
>>740815963>what does "showing its age" even meanI'm not sure it holds up. It doesn't have analog camera, it runs at 240p resolution and average 20fps, there's hitching when you pause the game, saving quitting and resuming doesn't retain your position in the game, most puzzles involve block pushing or just shooting a switch, there's unskippable cutscenes every 30 seconds, the lock on bounces to enemies you dont intend it to, there's knee high fences you cannot vault over, there's inclines the horse refuses to move beyond, you have to play several songs and run back to the temple of time to transform between child and adult forms, rupees are completely worthless and seemingly the only reward you get for exploration, the dialogue options are redundant just forcing you to pick Yes, there's tons of things the game just doesn't explain, there's tons of things the game over explains, the map is useless, a lot of the only sidequests in the game are fetch quests, nonexistent swimming controls, arbitrary limitations between child and adult link items, the teleports between areas leave a lot to be desired, no faster movement mechanic for young link, the challenge is virtually nonexistent, there's a lot of backtracking for 100% completion, Navi gets stuck repeating the same info routinely, many items are just palette swaps or replacements with the same functionality, and there's no world building or character development.
>>740813715kino
>>740818276>most puzzles involve block pushingGood.sokobon deez nuts
>>740818047>that don't existThe game isn't out yet, unc. For all you know it could be even worse than I described
>>740818276>a lot of the only sidequests in the game are fetch questsFetch quests are a problem when they ask you to do a bunch of shit you've already done. Ferrying items between NPCs isn't a problem and the fact that it can be labeled as a "fetch quest" is retarded.
>>740818512fucking loser
Do you think they'll do the amiibo outfits again?
>>740818542What do you think fetching means, god damn retard. If all you're supposed to do is fetch some items that would be a fetch quest. It wouldn't be if you're doing something substantial like a dungeon, bringing three spiritual stones to the temple of time isn't a fetch quest. Go learn a thing or two about games before you come back.
>>740802797>what're we hoping for in this remake besides non-linear open world design?fuck off
>>740802797i would probably give it a chance if i had a switch 2, but i'm not going to buy one just for this.
>>740802797Oldfag here. Looks like shit and I won't be buying it. I haven't bought a Nintendo console since the Wii even. The original OoT will always be superior.
>>740818694>optimized speedrun route requires you to win an amiibo dice roll to get a bombchu
>>740803360>level design?>progression?>structure?>meaningful content?>gameplay that isn't mostly walking from point A to point B?>a story that isn't gutted and all over the place?>a proper difficulty curve?>nah, never heard of itThere are a thousand dogshit open world survival crafting games on pc for you to waste your life on.
>>740803051Probably won't happen, but give me the Light Temple, some more shit to do in Hyrule Field, and a more open dungeon progression.
>>740807287Will never happen. You can't replicate a drawing.
>>740818943>optimized speedrun routeutter state of zoomoids
original ocarina of time was released over 10000 days agohow do i cope with this anons, i genuinely feel dread
>>740818156Was this the first time we got a decent pair of boobs that had jiggle physics? I remember even the first time I played this nutting as I hit her with her moaning and me just wishing the boss fight was longer
>>740818726Yeah, and if the prospect of retrieving items for an NPC is inherently bad to you just because it doesn't involve you going into a dungeon you're getting your wires crossed. Fetch quests aren't inherently bad. You hate content that feels insubstantial but takes time. The premise of getting items for NPCs isn't related to that inherently.
>>740818156I can't tell if you are shitposting but this really makes me think. The Forest Temple is like this too, representing your lost childhood that still haunts you.Game is unironically deep af.
I love Kass!
>>740810153Kill yourself you fucking subhuman faggot
>Kid Link wakes up with triforce on his hand even though it should be sealed in the sacred realm>entire kid sequence of collecting the jewels to open the temple of time is nonsense and pointless if this isn't the caseslop it up
>>740816185>14.6m meant a lot more in 1998 than 35m did in 2017It didn't get 14.6m in 98 you retard. READ the fucking words at the top. Green is og release, white is remakes & re-release. That 14.6m is both from the og and 3ds remaster dumbfuck. The og release only got 7.6m.
Im thinking of giving that Ship of Harakiri thing a shot, can anyone recommend me some textures that improve a bit more than just "original + 248x upscaling" but dont actually look like Unreal shit ? Thanks
>>740819026Do you have a single point to make, retard?
>>740809818>capitulate to the braindead goycattle masses who just want to twirl around in empty grass fields and skip everything they don't like or are too stupid to figure outNo
>>740819472that's about as much as you could sell at the timeindustry was much smaller
>>740819752>if I ignore all the points, you have no pointBlow it out your ass.
>>740819804Whatever helps you cope. Concession accepted btw.
>>740819781>empty grass fieldsBut enough about OoT.
>>740820105>10% of the game is a grassy field>no, I demand it be 90%!Go waste your life somewhere else
>>740802797The only thing I could ask for is don't change anything mechanic wise (making the boots easily switchable is fine), keep the art style closer to OoT 3D (didn't do that), fix the lighting from the remake, bring back the blood and add some extra side quests and maybe a master quest. They will do none of this.
>>740802797Does barefoot link mean this is gonna be BotW style equipment? They wouldn't have modeled him like that for just one scene right?
>>740820412Did you forget that pedophiles run this world
>>740820412They couldn't get the cloth physics right to render him sleeping under the blanket so they did that instead.
>>740803051SPBP
>>740820273Botw had enemy camps and puzzles in its grassy fields, plus it had more towns than OoT. Totk added caves too.
>>740818156>Twinrova HDYou know what, this remake is a sending, hopefully some good art in the near future
>>740820640Oot had things in its grassy field too. Doesn't change that botw is bloated as all fuck and basically just oot's hyrule field taken to an ubisoft extreme.
>>740806763You say that, but still, I decided to check xitter out of morbid curiosity and I was shocked to find out that /v/ is generally more positive / level headed about damn near everything from not-E3 versus that place. I haven't used it in 15 years, but Jesus Christ, how can it get so bad?
>>740820948retards like you will literally lap up toilet water
>>740820948Negativity gets more hits nowadays, not that the criticism isn't warranted, but yeah.
>>740802797>comfy thread>unrealslop gaemThat's a contradiction.
>>740821027toilet water is the same as your sink water
>>740820640Totk is goated
>>740821027Nigger, there's a difference between being disappointed / critical of those shows, there's plenty to say there, and just being deranged and miserable because that's what you've been trained to do. That place was all of /v/'s worse stereotypes magnified 100x.
>>740820572It's a completely ignorant post, tard.
>>740802797Looks like shit. Complete non-starter. I'll check back on oot remakes in 20 years when they try again.
>>740821201Totk shouldn't exist
>>740802797I am so excited for the Ocarina of Time remake. I love paying 600$ for the chance to play a reskinned proprietary geofenced digital download of a 27 year old game that's already been re-released five times on three different systems and an online subscription service. I am a soulless consumer husk faggot who would go into debt to buy Shigeru Miyamoto's bronzed turd if Nintendo released it with their label on it.
>>740802797im older than you and it should stay linear and the world should stay small. faggot
>>740821479This is exactly how I feel
>>740821479Why are you paying digital?
>non-linearGet outta here, OoT funneling you across a dev-intended route is fine
>overpriced console>literally non physical games for +$70 >supposed to be excited for a remake of a game the original developer hates>already went the realism route and took away any sort of mystical color or art direction that made Lotz, lotzYea man totally. I'm also excited for Halo Infinite: Campaign Evolved.
>>740804475You can do either spirit temple or shadow temple after the water temple, iirc.
>>740821909all video games are non-physical that's why they're video>umm but it came on $0.001 DVD-Rthey've taken you for a fool
>>740803051Let me skip and fast forward through text. Make item switching (including boots) easier and quicker. Improve the camera. Tighten up the controls and combat. Let me carry Ruto to bed. Give me a minute and I'll come up with a few more
>>740802797Aonuma was a mistake.
really not a fan that they are using the zoomer mastersword with the weeb anime spikes. I want the Blade of Evils Bane, not the gay ass "sword of sealing"
>>740802797I hope it gets bloated to three games that are $80 each. It should also have a parry mechanic because it's hip and cool.
>>740802797I'm cautiously optimistic on it. I want to hope it'll be good but I have a bad feeling they'll fuck it up hardcore.
>>740820640>Botw had enemy camps and puzzles in its grassy fields>copy-pasted content with no connection to the world is now worth praise
>>740819304hahahaha wtf. i never played rebirth or whatever part 2 was but this is so fucking funny. it's like they didn't understand what made the original game good even slightly lmao
How much of a revamp are we thinking this game truly is? Considering how long TotK took with it's physics system while reusing the world of BotW....I can't imagine this game being that huge with a lot of systems that allow you to solve things in many ways with tons of Sidequest and world bosses. Is it fair to say this game has been in development as soon as TotK was finished?
>>740803051It was good, but not perfect, personally, id enjoy OoT plot in BotWs world but thats just me. As it is, i replayed the original enough times that im not that excited for this game for anything other than seeing how the kokiri look with the new graphics
>>740802797>HEY listen! It's not going to shut up, it's gonna be worst than prime4
>>740821201>Totk is bloatedSorry, autocorrect. Also I suck cocks.
>>740822675It’s like a meta remake where they’ve got limited awareness of the original games but unable to do anything to change course, just making things happen slightly differentlyLike the rebuild of evangelion
>>740822737It's probably a fairly straightforward remake with a fresh artstyle and MAYBE some beta or DD/Master Quest stuff added. I imagine it's mainly just to acclimatize new and old staff in making an OoT style game because the last one was Skyward Sword. Hell, for that matter Skyward Sword HD may have been some preparatory practice for this game
>>740822359indeed, Miyamoto making Koizumi his personal cuck and killing their career to launch Anoumas is Nintendos gravest sin.
>>740822384You just know they’re going to make Fi’s presence known in the remake. Include some new scene where the sword starts jingling and beeping over something important.
>>740820749>Oot had things in its grassy field tooEmptiness is not a "thing".
>>740823023Jesus this is some indian caste shit, what did this guy do to piss off Miyamoto in the 90s?
>>740822645>copy-pasted contentAll the puzzles are different.
>>74082312890s? Probably said Donkey Kong Country was fun too close to Miyamoto at some point.
>>740823086Right, better go even harder on the emptiness then, make it 500x as big and copy paste the same 3 worthless things ad nauseam.
>>740823082Good
>>740823082They're moving Rauru to a proper Light Temple, and Fi will be the one to guard Link in Temple of Time for 7 years.
>>740823282>better go even harder on the emptiness thenCan get even more empty than OoT.
>>740822958i would have simply remade the game lol. i would have simply remade the game. imo the rebuilds dont shit all over the original series but this kinda does shit all over og 7
Are they going to add a dodge roll or parry, you think?
>>740823282Iconically, that's what TP did in order to make the field large enough for those horse battles.
>>740823259god this is gay as shit, I hate this so fucking much. Id rather japan get nuked by the chinese than let this garbage release.
>decide to watch some OOT speedruns to remember the game>first one I watch just has some chatter talking about killing themselves in chatCant tell if this is speedrunning culture or zelda culture.
>>740822359People that loved WW and TP would disagree with you. You hate those games anon because he WAS the sole director.
>>740823449>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xkx5gTxDSkFrom what i can tell, this guy doesnt say anything again the rest of the 2 hour run. You just cant make this shit up.
>>740803051https://youtu.be/P8mNdqGY3ZA?si=PWJPmm0GayT7DOc8URA Zelda and the original Fire Temple chant.
>>740823508I didn't hate them, but they did mark the beginning of the decline of the series.
>>740823290>Rauru starts talking about the Zonai
>>740823394>the place you travel on horse out of the waynice nitpick
>>740823023what's crazy is Koizumi makes the best games like Mario Galaxy meanwhile Aonuma makes shit like Twilight Princess
>>740823394>hyrule castle ten seconds away>right next to lon lon ranchOoT is so much better than BotW it's not even funny
>>740803051Lol perfect, that's not RE4
>>740823441Maybe Wind Waker parries but otherwise I can't really see them doing a lot with combat. Skyward Sword still followed the same system unless it was a Stalmaster, Ghirahim, or Demise
>>740823259>link if drawn by an intern questioning all his life choices
>>740823806Koizumi also made Sunshine which was worse than any other 3D Zelda game. So he's not perfect. Hop off his nuts.
I just wanna see if they're gonna add cut content.If we get a proper Light Temple I will cum.
>>740810078
>>740805574I hate you. You are less than dirt to me
>>740804170>What is Super Mario All Stars
I don't want it to be open world per se, but I'd really like it if they could make the entire world seamless instead of being seperate cells.
>>740823449>>740823597>dude I can send you a photo of my bloodied arm right nowAre they friends? What on earth motivates this.
>>740824074I wish I was as retarded as you.
>>740820948The internet as a whole shrank, so now everyone is on Twitter 24/7 and since being bitter and purely negative is all the rage nowadays, that's all you're going to see. I'm not saying that the game doesn't deserve scrutiny, but you have people losing their minds over a 1 second shot of Link.
>>740824969A one second shot of link sleeping while wearing leather armor but no shoes or hat is enough to let me know that I am not the target audience.
OoT is already "do the tutorial then you can go pretty much anywhere you see," that's as open world as it needs to get. This element just isn't as emphasized because of Navi nagging in your ear the right way to go all the time and that's why people hated her. Just cut back on that. I do hope the map itself is considerably revamped and expounded but structurally it doesn't really need to change, it would just benefit from less hand holding.
>>740803360The good parts of Elden Ring were the traditional dungeons, not the open world.
>>740803360>anything that isn't a sandbox is a hallwayYou keep posting these absolute fucking GARBAGE takes EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY on this board. Knock it off for crying out loud, your opinions fucking suck.
>>740817315OoT Link was based on Leo DiCaprio. It better be faithful.
>>740825504Really? His eyebrows are too thin.
>>740822737Not going to comment on the potential scale, we LITERALLY have know way of really guessing that right now, but the original ads for a Zelda project were posted over 6 years ago. This has likely been in development for no less than 5 years, possibly as long as those ads were originally posted. It could be they spent that time just polishing things, or it could be that it's really fucking massive, or both. We'll learn soon enough, they have <6 months before release so new footage will be shown pretty soon.
>>740802797Are they actually going to add voice acting?
>>740825753>Are they actually going to add voice acting?I really hope not and if they do they better add an option to turn it off.
>>740803051More creative puzzles and faster block pushing. Better first person aiming and the ability to move like WW HD. More aspects of the story fleshed out and answering more questions, like what the hell happened to the king.More fancy swordplay from TP. More varied and complex enemy AI.Make bosses like Gohma, King Dodongo, and Morpha not pathetically easy and mundane. Ganondorf fight actually being better than the Phantom Ganon fight.Rupees actually mattering and having more meaningful things to spend them on. Oot still feels great to play but it still has that feeling of an early 3D game. If they just gave it a visual overhaul it would still feel like an older game underneath.
>>740803453I finally did this on my most recent playthrough and it's more trouble than anything. You have to go through half or more of the dungeon before you get the key item and leave. It makes returning to those dungeons pretty confusing because you forgot what you've done and where you're heading next. But it's neat that you could do it.
>>740803051Mostly the combat. Some enemies can stay dumb but how depressing would it be for Dark Link to not be improved at all?
>>740825749Oh, 6 years? I thought it was 4.
>>740823023I'm eternally mad we've lost 3 decades of potential zelda games with this guy at the helm
>>740818694I think they will but only for the Skyward Sword armor. The original adult Link amour was given to him by the sage Rauru in OoT.
>>740810027Oot being expanded like that would be a gift and a curse (mostly a curse, fuck that botw shit). It's funny when people say "lol I did all this for hours and I haven't even done the first dungeon, this is awesome." Yeah, because the story is pitifully small and watered down, you're not missing out on much.
I’m afraid they will make it easier
>>740810275Ocarina has proper pacing where you're going from one important task to another and it's all meaningful, not wandering aimlessly and doing random busywork. It's not that complicated.
>>740802797I hope it's a complete redesign. New story, new characters, new everything.
>>740826184Just offer a Master mode toggle in the main menu before starting the game.
Whatever the outcome, it'll divide the fans
>>740809709>more enemiesOot definitely didn't have a problem there, but I'd like to see them better utilized and more complex.
>>740826057He had some big ideas. I remember an Interview he in like 2010 where he made a bunch physical models for Hyrule Castle and Field and Miyamoto kept telling him to trash'em. Supposedly he also wanted do a fallen timeline game with a shekiah as the hero. Instead we got TP
>>740826272>New story, new characters, new everything.Pretty sure this is the goal. This remake is based on the BoTW/TotK era. That's why the title logo has the same ancient ruins styling and the Hylian shield has the missing 4th piece of the triforce.
I'll pirate it when Switch 2 emulation exists. Not paying $500 just to play one game.
So this game definitely explains why Tears of the Kingdom took 6 years just to be glorified DLC, right?
>>740802797>besides non-linear open world design?Why the goddamn fuck would I want this?
>>740812412And the main story would still be more robust than the shit we got in botw and tears.
>>740802797>what're we hoping forI hope the remake flops
>>740815332I believe you. The beans are fitting for the neverland forest children shit. I hope it won't look too distracting.
>>740826765We'll either get Switch2 emulation at chrismas or in 2 years. Ive heard somegroups are gonna start using new AI tools which should speed things up. Even if its janky as hell, as long as it can crack the system, it will open the floodgates for everyone else.
>>740826765>I'll pirate it when Switch 2 emulation exists.Naturally. Then we can change the armor, shields, music, sound effects and Gerudo crest back to the original design.
>>740827158I don't like how lopsided it is.The new crest fits better with the duality of the spirit temple.
>>740811192Would be cool if Child Link doesn't do the sword twirl until you become Adult, and then once you go back in time, Child does it too to show his progressing experience.
I don't know how I'd feel about retroactively making the Gerudo super tall like in botw. Maybe this game shouldn't let later Zelda games influence it too much.
>>740822997
>>740822737>six year development>one million dollar budgetMassive
>>740823508Koizumi was actually involved with Wind Waker. How much we don't know, because they don't seem to like talking about his involvement with these games, but he for sure worked on the ending of Wind Waker.
>>740803051>>740802797they already said its not going to be open world/non linear game. it will have the same "lock and key" progression as OoT>Realistically, what could they improve on?Nintendo have lamented on OoT being too hard for gamers in the past. there will be more features to help little kids get through the game without being filtered. The most interesting thing about this game will be seeing how nostalgia fags react to OoT being "modernized" into being approachable to 80 iq gamers.
>>740826184there is no doubt it will be dumbed down. also babyfied and areas like the well will not be as dark.
>>740812412
>>740818156>spirit temple>entire place is avout womenIm sure theres some metaphor for marriage in there.
>>740829897This keeps happening with remakes unfortunately
>>740822997This. It's going to be like Star Fox. Meaning it's going to be butt fucking ugly, everything will be all wrong, all the dialogue and story will be loosely rewritten, more cutscenes, and the actual gameplay and content is basically going to be 1:1. Calling it now.
>>740826602>and Miyamoto kept telling him to trash'emEvery story I've ever heard about Miyamoto just makes him look more and more like a soulless, retarded hack who's ruined Nintendo.
Malon is going to be indian screencap this
>>740817717I don't. Just give her clothes instead of the stupid fin bra
I have a feeling it's going to look nice, but play like shit. Looks like the UE5 concept that guy on youtube has been making, which isn't a good sign.
>>740833127curry milk
>>740803570>the original art,the models are the original art, this is promo art
>>740829739>they already said its not going to be open world/non linear gamewhere
>>740803360worst post itt
>oot was colorful and vibrant when it mattered and then was dark, gloomy, and scary when it mattered>realism is going to fucking destroy bothMan.
>>740834901The source is his ass. Aonuma already said he's never making any real, non-BOTW Zelda again and mocked the true fans who want one. OOT is going to be butchered completely by this hack.
>>740834782panchagavya
>>740803051>this is what ootfags unironically believe
>>740802797so long as the Forest Temple keeps its upbeat, strange funkish forest feel, I'll play it.
Will the fairies have models?
What would be worse?>The same game but with another coat of paint>Going down the FF7R route
>>740802797>nu-zelda generic rags and not the iconic hero of time tunicIt's shit. Somehow even more shit than the 3DS version. Didn't even finish watching. It took around a minute for them to show me that they couldn't give a single fuck about the artistic integrity of the masterpiece that was the original. Fuck off.
>>740837512>The same game but with another coat of paintThis by far.If it's a terrible game I can at least laugh at it. Just the same game with the HIRE THIS MAN graphics and some voice acting would be boring.
>>740802797>>740803051I want there to be zero changes and the remake to be 1:1 with the original. Not because of 'respecting artistic vision' or whatever else, no. I want nostalgia-blinded tendie trannies to experience the most overrated dogshit game of all time as it's always been: ugly, clunky-controlling, linear, childish, mind-numbingly easy, fucking boring, outdated and utterly outclassed uncslop. I want them to see with their own eyes, and feel with every button press, the inferiority of their 'masterpiece' against literally any other action-adventure game that has released in the past two decades. I am licking my fucking chops in anticipation of the myth that has plagued every gaming forum, the sentiment that this absolute kusoge is "among the greatest games of all time" to fucking dissipate entirely within a day. My greatest fear is that all valid criticisms towards OoT will only go towards the remake as a scapegoat, when in reality (news flash!) it's ALWAYS been gutter trash to any non-N64 cockguzzling manchild npc.
>>740837125UHH, REHH,
>>740835921I don't think he specifically said that, and I know what quote you're talking about. LBW fits into exactly what he's talking about.
>>740839097ALBW was the beginning of the end. It was proto-open world where you can get all the tools at once and there is zero progression.
>>740838936-1/10
>>740839174Progression was getting shit like Dash Boots, swimming, etc.
>>740839320Ok, miniscule progression.
>>740802797>non-linear open world designOpen world is bad game design
>>740839367>o-ok, but its small tho alright, man
>>740839421When compared to how tools used to provide progression, yes, you negrified dipshit.
>>740803051ship of harkinian is perfect enough as is tbqdesu>iron boots as d-pad items>fast magic arrows>infinite framerate>press one button to warp to adult timeline and back like the dark world in LTTP>replaced stone of agony if you don't like rumble tranny feature
>>740807912that is incredibly specific. are you trying to tell us something anon?
>>740802797open world designadditionally i also want them to close the timeloopline shit as an ending>botw>totk>oot to end it all and admitting the whole fucking thing was a mistake because it was the 2010s and universes were all the rageand for the love of fucklet me help malon rebuild the ranch with her in the future. i would chop wood, wrangle wild cows and cut grass to help malon rebuild the fucking ranch
>>740839476I'll admit, tools are more "proper" forms of a progression reward, but I value them pretty closely still. Dashing Boots are a good movement that I wish shit like Minish Cal had in its early game.
>>740807912>>740808308It's a cloth gambeson, anon
>>740823449The former. The speed running community is 90% turbo autists.
>>740802797If they added the twilight Princess combat mechanics/moves that'd be cool, making things like switching from a normal slash, to a shield poke or a jumping attack necessary to make combat more interesting than Z locking and spamming B. It'd also be cool if some items worked into some sort of combo if you use them mid attacking, like you hit a few slashes, and when you use a deku stick for instance it does a special combo finishing animation that does extra damage instead of just pulling it outAlso gyro aiming from the 3ds remakes coming back would be fantastic
>>740809396the only dungeons you could do out of order were fire/water and shadow/spirit, but 90% of people did fire and shadow first out of those pairs
>>740839651WAGGLE
>>740839705You gotta admit it feels good aiming the bow by moving your handheld around, imagine if you had the joycons separate from the switch you can mime pulling back the bowstring to fire
>>740839647Fuck off Shad
>>740802797I hope I can finish it this time.I never had it as a kid, just played snippets of it at a cousins house. Closest I got was the 3DS version. I would play it with my little girl watching in my lap, and like 3 goddamn times she saved over the file. I can only do dodongos cavern and jabu jabu so many times... furthest I got was the Shadow Temple
>>740840075you are missing out on the best dungeon in the game lol
>>740840000I'm only talkin' 'bout gambesons, can ya dig it?
>>740839838and throwing deku nuts distance/angle and maybe off a wall? maybe going the way of skyrim and using spears again somehow with some kinda crafting system for your deku sticks? maybe allow adult link to use the slingshot for puzzles or stealth missions distractions
>>740840339It doesn’t even look like gambeson though. It looks like some sort of reinforced leather stamped with kokiri symbols.
>>740839623OoT takes places thousands of years in the past. Before the events of BotW and the Zonai flashback we saw in TotK.
>>740841183Yeah BOTW and TOTK don't make any sense at all if one assumes they actually are at the total beginning of the timelineUp to and including all the fucking rock salt laying around everywhere in open air, which is an implication of the Great Sea from Wind Waker and beyond having drained and Hyrule being uncovered
>>740841256They don't connect despite being a sequel, it's an alternate reality fucked by time
>>740841256>>740841332I'm pretty sure there is a second event after a future game to be released set before BotW. Might be the upcoming movie for all we know. One that merges the timelines together and causes Hyrule to become a ruined mess. Otherwise it definitely is in the Adult timeline.
>>740842230this shit was so pointlessits was always obvious they never ever even fucking once put thought into how the games connect to each other outside of official sequels like loz>aol and oot>mm, and that each game is supposed to be its own version of "the legend" of zelda
>>740842546It was better before Nintendo took charge of timeline. It's called "Legend of Zelda" for a reason. Meant to be up for interpretation.
>>740802797No one wants an Open World OOT
>>740843449I do thoughbeit
>>740803360>seeing an opinion this retarded first thing in the morning I need to stop leaving this board open
>>740843449I want an open OoTI don't want an 'open world' OoT
>you can see his hat on the bed and it already looks overdesigned with some dumb beads on it
>>740843449I want LOZ to stay alive and go back to being functionally linear, not because I'm obsessed with a game older than me but because in order to have my favourite ideas and themes of the lost gaming past back, it needs to become obvious that you can market it to the normies. So you need LOZ to unfuck itself, retrace its steps and pave the way, sad as that is
>>740846473>I want LOZ to stay alive and go back to being functionally linear>functionally linearThen you're a fake fan. Linear Zelda was an outright degeneration, the games thrived on open ended but deliberately controlled progression.
>>740846540you got the wrong anon, anon. I failed to make myself clear, but we are probably on the same page, I just said it wrong
Let me make decisions that can change the outcome of the future, let the outcome from the original OoT just be one of several options. Perhaps some segments where you play as Zelda like with Peach in Paper Mario thousand year door.
>>740847382If they don't include a Master Quest-like mode that makes the game harder and modifies the endgame so Link dies, leading to the Downfall Timeline, it's Nintendover.
>>740815332I dig the ainu inspired patterns, could be a neat take on the kokiri overall.
>>740803051Make it like the beta
They originally wanted to make Ganon huge, right? Maybe they could rework the final fight. Oh, and finally add the sword fight from Space World 2000. The lying bastards owe us.
>>740849927i would actually fully-support this remake if they included these as little bonusesi wouldn't even care if they're unfinished, i really want to see these cruddy prototypes
>>740850469Not happening. Japs are very autistic about only showing off a "complete" game.
>>740843449You would have to be retarded to want to see a linear 1:1 remake.
>>740802797I don't see a reality where this ends up being good.If they try to make it faithful there will be no reason to play it over original as it 100% will have "improvements" that will make it worse than the original (already, this artstyle is really ugly). OoT didn't age particularly well either in terms of design but if you change too much you will piss off nintendo adults even more.
>>740839647>>740840339It's a jerkin.
>>740802797>besides non-linear open world designDIE IN A FIRE FAGGOT TOURIST!!!!, HOLY SHIT GO PLAY NO MANS SKY POST-APOCALYPTIC SURVIVALCRAFTSLOP OR ROLLSLOP OR PROC-GEN ROGUELITESLOP IRL SWORDS DONT BREAK AFTER USAGE KEEP THAT TEDIOUS CANCER OUT OF THIS REMAKE
>>740803051>Hammer from Fire Temple has exactly 3 rusted buttons in the temple itself then like 1 more in ganon's castleI want a full rework for that dogshit item. Honestly would love to see puzzles more involved
>>740839651>be cool if some items worked into some sort of combo if you use them mid attackingthat's what I would be most interested in if we're going to see an item locked game world again
>>740839174>there is zero progressionuh huh, okay retard
>>740835921>Aonuma said he's he's only making real and good Zelda games from now onhell yeah
I hope the remake gives adult malon some huge milkers
>>740832182Miyamoto is a genius though, it's more to the fact nobody could keep up with him was the problem.
>>740829897It can't be anymore babyfied than the original where you push blocks across a floor with yellow arrows to indicate direction.
>>740826560Every Zelda pales compared to Totk where it sported 110 enemies
>>740811448>Dungeon music starts off very atmospheric and subdued like in the original>After you beat the mini-boss/get the dungeon item the music gets expanded uponCould be neat. I think they could do some fun stuff by expanding on the music a bit. As an example, I really like how they approached the soundtrack to the Paper Mario TTYD remake, where they remade all the music, but extended each track to include new melodies before it loops, oftentimes incorporating the main theme. I could see them doing something similar here.
>>740825182>OoT is already "do the tutorial then you can go pretty much anywhere you see," that's as open world as it needs to get.There's a lot of room for improvement.
How are they going to change that really long fall in the Fire Temple where Link takes no fall damage? Will it just be an elevator now?
>>740852261how many of those enemies were just recolors of the same fucking thing
>>740851708Everyone wants it to be open world, so what else besides that would you like to see. caps lock
>>740803051it's not that oot couldn't be improvedit's just that nintendo isn't going to improve itany changes they make that aren't just graphics (and these graphics are NOT an improvement) will be shit like simplifying the game to make it easier for little kids who would rather be on tiktok
>>740851029I don't see it ever turning out bad, the most disappointing thing would be it being the same.
>>740852494same as any Zelda game
I don’t know where to start with remaking Ocarina. I made a thread about it the other day; Ocarina is the basis for all 3D adventure games. That means Souls, DMC, future Zelda titles, the open world gacha games, Darksiders, God of War, they’re all Ocarina and they all sought to refine what Ocarina did. In saying that, Ocarina’s remake was Tears of the Kingdom/BOTW. It recontextualises the series and everything around it. It was also Dark Souls to an extent, and that also recontextualised adventure/action games again. I don’t know where you go from here.
>>740853070>Ocarina’s remake was Tears of the Kingdom/BOTWKind of, but not quite. Ocarina of Time is a far more cinematic experience and the gimmick ocarina ties into the central bit of a gameplay.
The korak designs from the tapestry look like a hybrid of OOT koraks with WW koraks. I'm curious if it really will be a full re-imagining or just the OTT designs.
>>740853317there were no koroks in OOT wtf. i didnt even notice they were added
Starfox’s cinematic are really good, so I think this’ll be too. Nintendo are in their movie phase recently, and that’s fine after 39 years of arcade games.
>>740853317>korak>shows kokiri
>>740802797>Comfy Ocarina of Time threadI continue to wait for Indigo. 0 interest in more remake slop.
I'm actually excited to see the old enemies with updated 3d models. Just hope they don't go the uncanny realism route.
>you can fish anywhere>there are unique fish to catch inside jabu jabuIf they do this it will be absolute kino
>>740853632there are koroks in the tapestry if you look close enough. one is hanging off a tree
I hope they include Master Quest (probably they won't)
Do you remember how scary Ocarina actually is? The well, the hands, forest temple. Shit made you shit your pants prrrerrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttttttt……
>>740853810There are no koroks in thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8eMoxo4ipE
The game is supposed to be coming out this year. I can't imagine a huge revamp of its world or heavily expanding on the game's scope unless they've actually been working on this remake for the past 4 years. I don't think they'll really do an open world adjustment to the game in the same vein as BotW and TotK.
I want to know of majora's mask will be included as a secret thing or DLC
>>740853993maybe im hallucinating then but im seeing something
>>740854083No, and it's retarded seeing people clamor for some combination of the two games. They're completely different mechanically, Aonuma doesn't really like it, it's not going to fucking happen.
>>740854083Nah, that'll have it's own remake at some point. Master Quest Mode should be a guarantee though.
>>740853895what if they include the real ura zelda
>>740854245I don't understand people begging for Majora when they pretty much showed how much they hate it with MM3D and tried to "fix it" where it didn't really need fixing.
>>740854029I think it’ll be a very traditional remake. The 11s are like that, they’re not going to go crazy with the ethos of a remake. This is a country that lauds Dragon Quest V as is.
>>740854083It’s too fanboy-y to ask for that. >DUDE WHAT IF MANORAS MADK WAS IN THE GAME TOO THAT WIULD BE SOO MUCH CONTENTPeople got no restraint.
>>740803051make it open world
>what're we hoping forCancellation, fuck remakes>B-but the game is old now, new is better!Then don't play it, faggot.>You just think "old good, new bad"!Remakes aren't new, they're old again. Actually make something new, creatively bankrupt retards.
>>740854753yet FF7 got overhauled entirely. if they do a 1:1 remake with all the oddities and video game logic of the original, theres no point
I want korok seed hunting
>>740854864Niggas don’t get tired of posting like thisPlay the fuckikg game and shut up. Dissertation on why not gonna play ocarina remake
>>740854942Japanese develop high profile games by an ethos. They’ll say something like,>This remake is the “memory of childhood”And that line will direct the entire game.
>>740854864Bro really tried the “everything sucks and the world is evil” take on a remake of the #1 game of all time. God help your ass if they ever remake Xenogears.
Link feet
>>740854626It's the better version, people are stuck on the superficiality of the original game, nostalgia, and it's contradictory to want to see it remade.
>>740854829this
>>740803051They should actually do the proper child/adult puzzles that got abandoned in OOT
>>740802797>what're we hoping for in this remake besides non-linear open world design?honestly just basically Wind Waker HD treatment>keep the game faithful>iron out the edges, the little niggly annoyances, ala the swift sail>change basically nothing else>any additions are good and make sense, or are coolwe already know, much like WWHD, the graphics changed.>also more sexy little girls, im so excited to see realism saria and malon
>>740803051its gameplay hold up the least of all the titles imo.
>>740803051vampire survivor mode
>>740855653>remove the Wind Waker from Wind Wakerso Ocarina of Time without the Ocarina of Time, eh
>>740855468yeah its all rose tinted glasses to not want zora link and deku link to feel like shit to use you contrarian retard
>>740855925git gud, filtered faggot
>>740856094Damn you're actually retarded
>>740856257back to your shit game
>>740853317What makes them look like hybrids? They just look like kids in green just like Link. They're supposed to look like Link, because Link and the other Kokiri are supposed to believe he's one of them, but there's something different about him because he doesn't have a fairy. If they looked different than him then it would be obvious to everyone he's not a Kokiri. Of course, they may change that aspect of the story, but it would be a stupid change.
>>740856384I don't play MM3D thoughbeit
>>740853635I don't get how they made such an ambitious mod, then give it that atrocious title screen that looks like it was made in paint. And why Indigo, wtf is that supposed to mean? Zelda fans always make weird fanmade stuff that doesn't suit the tone and style of Zelda, even if there's good stuff.
>>740852261>>740852750Listen faggot I've gone over the numbers, don't fucking piss me off. botw and tears have fucking terrible enemy variety, this is common knowledge.
>>740820412Hopefully not. I think developers are finally just making scenes of characters sleeping realistic, not just having them go to bed fully clothed. You can see his hat hanging on a branch to the left.
>>740811785>>740811945This looks more soulful than any part of botw's open world. It looks deliberately made. Not just the 79th waterfall and river in Hyrule where there's 2 koroks hidden and a chest underwater.
>>740811990It was always dumb how young Link had more enemies to fight in Hyrule field while all adult Link has are some harmless poes. THIS is the terrible Hyrule Ganondorf rules? Sandnigga ain't so bad.
>>740857343Botw does, but Totk has the most enemies in the franchise history. This is a verifiable fact.
>>740802797I just want a new game with things i dont know. I would be totally fine with them picking Oot's setting and general plot and making a completely new Zelda game out of that. That is new puzzles, items, an important twist to the mechanics, etc.Basically a REmake for Oot. I just want to be surprised, which is the point of Zelda to me.
>>740812180Well at least from the teaser it didn't look washed out as shit. I think this realistic art style serves indoor areas much better, which will provide a better atmosphere. The botw art style only works for the open world, the indoor areas look like absolute shit. Like wtf is this? It's so goddamn washed out and soulless.
>>740858350Whatever the twist is it has to involve the Ocarina of Time or else it would be strange.
>>740858370It doesn't look like that in game, that's a compressed JPEG.
>>740858519anon it doesn't matter what the image quality is, it doesn't change the fact that it looks soulless in-game too, it's not like I only came across this conclusion from looking up an iamge.
>>740858464Well it is still called ocarina of time so thats a given. I would bet on a deeper development of the time manipulation aspect. Not necessarilly a huge twist mechanics-wise, but probably expanding on the quests that require time travelling, changing between day and night, etc.I expect nothing of the sort because the dev time seems to have been rather short.
>>740805574You're getting none of that because the modern gaming industry's idea of a remake is basically a remaster with a little more effort put into visuals. It's gonna be the same shit we saw in 1998 with 2026 visuals costing 80 bucks.
>>740802797It would be kino if they added some of the cut content/scrapped concepts but I know they aren't going to do that.
>>740858160When you group up all the elemental and colored variants of enemies, there's only like 25 regular enemies. Still far less than Oot's number of unique enemies.
>>740858901It looks great in game though, you're wrong.
>>740858971>probably expanding on the questsThat's what I could see, new sidequests that require hopping between eras. Open worlds haven't done multiple dimensions before, and it ties into the ocarina.
>>740859043>modern gaming industry's idea of a remake is basically a remasteruhhh, anon, your Final Fantasy, your Resident Evil, your Oblivion,
>>740859521Maybe they could make the time travelling mechanic more like the mirror in alttp. Despite its name, Oot's time travelling was very restricted and MM did a lot more with it.For obvious reasons Oot cannot work like MM, but looking at alttp's mirror, that could make time travelling more organic and flexible.
>>740859112There's not that many.
>>740812045We need to kill the concept that somehow live performances and realistic sounding VSTs are inherently better for gaming than unapologetically sequenced sampled music. The human soul yearns for the SPC700 and it's 8 voice sampler
>>740860285Missing an octorok but otherwise I believe this is all of them.
>>740860490but then again, an octorok is a reskinned deku scrub, so
>>740860285>>740860490suddenly, >>740859112 goes silent.huh. I wish liars were forced to respond or be killed.
>>740819741Can you play Ship with the 3DS textures?Honestly the 3DS textures are great, they just to be BLACKENED a little
>>740820749>>740822645>OoT holes in the ground are now worthy praise
>>740859593Exceptions to the rule if anything. You look at stuff like Crash, Spyro, Rayman Legends, Star Ocean, Live A Live, Paper Mario TTYD, Star Fox 64, Dead Space, Campaign Evolved, Super Mario RPG, etc. it's all fundamentally the same game with new graphics and music and a couple QoL improvements. A remaster with a bit more budget into it. Actually changing the game and doing more with the formula would take too long and require imagination that the people developing a remake don't have.
