Why does this board hate gacha games so much?
gacha games = farming daily log ins or paying huge amounts of cashif you get left behind in these games it makes you want to burn it all down I only play one gacha currently but people hating them is completely understandable
>>740830068Troon gacha
>>740830068It's pretty much the most vile and predatory method of selling a product possible. It's pretty much just a casino and it thrives on abusing mentally ill people with gambling addictions. Devs that rely on loot boxes are also vile parasites but it's slightly less bad because the gambling is a side aspect and not fundamentally the core of the experience like it is in gacha. Also, the only monetization method even worse than gacha is endless development funding scam as often seen on Patreon games and Star Citizen
>labored breathing due to type two diabetes>audibly swallows saliva>snorts loudly to clear his nostrils of snot>office chair creaks, leather is slowly peeling off and it sounds like it will collapse at any moment>struggles to reach over his gut and lean forward>doesn't make it the first time, he falls back once and his chair cracks loudly>finally reaches his keyboard, his saliva is thick due to dehydration after such a workout>after a few backspaces due to typos, his fat fingers are finally able to type out his messageWhy does this board hate gacha games so much?
>>740830323most gacha gameplay is doing mundane daily tasks though. the absolute vast majority of players never whale but save up gems from daily log ins and tasks
I don't want to play something for months just to have some newbie come along and drop loads of cash to be instantly way more powerful.
>>740830068>why do they persecute us so?wow i can't believe the internet hate machine loathes a fundamentally engagement-driven freemium framework that banks on nothing but gimmicky character designseven assfaggots players know they are addicts in a bad spot, most gacha fans do not have enough self-awareness even for that>As the air to a bird or the sea to a fish, so is contempt to the contemptible. — some emo faggot
>>740830239what if I play gachashit but I'm also the same tard playing Skyroads for ms dos and getting stuck in old text adventures
>>740830068/v/ can be tsundere from time to time due to mood swings.
>>740830068I like actually owning my games and being able to play them a decade later for the purposes of nostalgic cope.
>>740830068>normalfags that hate anime style>trannies and ironic weebs hating non-safe anime style>freetards and pirates hating any sort of monetization that doesn't allow 100% of content to be pirated like devs aren't going to try to make money>westerners projecting their problems of a western game industry that's just as predatory about taking money but does not give them what they want in return.>mentally ill projecting their low impulse control, intense FOMO, and general inability to accept anything transient as being enjoyable or even valuable in its own right onto others.
>>740830068Because a lot of them went through the beginning of enshittification. This board was vocally against Horse Armor, and now fast forward zoomers are salivating over the chance to gamble for a crumb of digital pussy
>>740830460people who do dailies aren't the actual customers for gacha. They're just window shoppers. The customers for gacha are mentally ill gambling addicts and the games legitimately destroy people's lives. There are a lot of people who have spent tens of thousands of dollars they don't have, going into debt trying to win a jpg of some anime slut because there's five stars next to her name instead of 4 and she's SSSSSSSSSR instead of just SSSSSSSSR like their current jpgeven though most people aren't the mentally ill victims of the disgusting practice, the fact of the matter is that these games ONLY exist to find and ruin the lives of these people. I pity these sad people, and thus I feel hatred to the developers of these games.
>>740831519>enshittificationshut up faggot.>Horse Armorah so point 4. of >>740831313
>>740830068Because they suck as games. Any other answer is fake and gay.Now if you need to be told "why" the suck, then you're fake and gay too.
>>740830068I would unironically rather play a korean mmoat least they'll wine and dine me with some serviceable gameplay before trying to rob me
>>740830068Because they ultimately sacrifice gameplay and value in exchange for monetization and player retention. They also represent a deadly swamp that many franchises and developers are either unwilling or unable to escape from, dooming their respective properties for the foreseeable future.Compare library of ruina to limbus company, or reverse collapse to GF2, the non-gacha games are simply more focused design-wise on actual game elements
>>740831548I cant fathom being a gacha whale. Even actual gambling addicts get some kind of payout or thing they can own. Its always neets too that come from wealth who whale unlike the crackheads who become regular gambling addicts.
They're barely games, it feels like the action game version of those terrible Facebook games like Farmville.
>>740831989I think it usually starts with some moment of weakness causing one purchase and then that breaks the mental barrier, and results in putting good money after bad money until they suddenly find themselves thousands of dollars in the hole before they realize what's happening. The whole games are designed from the ground up to set up scenarios where a person can as easily as possible spiral into self-destruction. It's rather insidious.
>>740830068I'm jealous that I can't scam goyim as effectively
>>740831313It's pretty funny that the >implication behind the post is how only some sort of enlightened titan of a customer can truly enjoy gacha. But here's another comparison to american industry: these are all games supported almost entirely by people with only tangential (that is to say casual) interest in games that outnumber any real nerd 12 to 1.Asians with no money nor living space to invest into a dedicated gaming hardware, no allotted time to enjoy games outside of toilet or commute or work. But you are built different, I understand that, you invest little to no money and totally don't mind daily grind and can enjoy "transient" things. It's just that you represent an irrelevant population in the grand scheme of things, grandstanding about your own qualities and projecting them to all who do the same things you do. Which means you suffer from either excessive narcissism or lacking theory of mind.And who would respect the value judgement of a faggot like you?
>>740830068They have a bad grind. They need to make the game unfun in order to make you consider paying up. Also, I just don't like RNG that much. I see why it's a needed part of many games, but I just regret every time I try to gamble.
>>740830068Because they are only good for their dripfed story, music and designs.>gameplayShallow and often designed around character swapping for variety than any kind of actual technical depth or varietyCharacter abilities are generally 1 sec eyesore flashes and ults do this 3 seconds with a bonus cringe posing before the actual attack - gameplay freezes at this moment and enemies cannot do anything regardless of game being action combat or not>Side contentAlmost always literal walls of text from NPC:s that have nothing important to sayBarebones minigames that are 100% done better by other games>EventsFOMO shit that's designed to keep you coming back every day whether you want to or not>Stamina system/dailies/weekliesAnother FOMO feature that's designed to timegate your progress, so missing any can mean days of waiting before you get your objectives>Limited bannersFOMO, again, because their whole purpose is to get you to spend your resources or real money before the banner is cycled to the next>Shitty RNG everywhereDrops? RNGGacha? rigged RNGDamage? RNG>CurrenciesLiterally a different unique currency or two for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER, plus- event currencies- level up tokens for skills, characters, weapons etc separately- multiple different gacha tokens just to complicate things unnecessarily (IE: LImited tokens, standard tokens, event tokens, farmed currency, paid currency, pity points from duplicates (different types of these too)>Horrible predatory monetizationThe prices are genuinely inexcusable for digital liveservice shit>subscription bonusesand to add insult to injury, it's also a FOMO because if you pay for it, you're basically enslaving yourself to daily logins for a month because missed days are lost value that you won't get back>Same artstyle for like 90% of them>Same gameplay copied between each other>Masterfully designed by experts, AI and analysts to maximize profit & engagementI could go on but no space left
>>740830068It is because Gacha games typically make demands of your time.If you want to play them optimally, then they decide when you play, not you.This isn't even touching upon the predatory money aspects of the games.
I feel like gacha proliferated as a replacement for f2p MMOs for a lot of people.There's a constant update cycle, a low effort social element, in-game monetization that doesn't charge up front, and a large community for any popular one.
>>740831695>the west does it... so its okay when the east does!!!No, sorry faggot
>>740830460>b-b-but I'm not a whale!!!You're still a retarded subhuman playing a shitty chore simulator and helping kill actual videogames by providing free advertising. Gachashit is a disease, and you're still a carrier.
I'm only willing to play one and thats because it's relatively light on the gatcha aspect and the setting/story was already interesting before it was a gatcha. I can't imagine playing one that's worse and also has nothing really going for it besides "these anime girls are sexy and do not-even-quite-softcore porn."
Insane we live in an age where 4chan welcomes gacha "Pay2Win" games yet shit themselves over actually difficult singleplayer games or competitive multiplayer games.
>>740830239TL;DR.Gacha video games are objectively amazing! Deal with it!
>>740830068/v/ likes vidya butts, why wouldn't it like gacha games?
>>740836973The gameplay sucks