KILLS YOUR FRANCHISE AND ALIENATES LOYAL CUSTOMERS THAT ACTUALLY LOVE THE SERIES AND ZOOMERS DON'T EVEN BUY IT
>>740847674Didn't play the original what has you spergs so upset?
>>740847674>are they seriously still doing this? why wasn't it one game? hasn't it been six years? boomers are embarrassing man
>>740847706Between this and Redditbirth I can't tell which is more insulting to the fans.
>>740847674It's on the switch now, we no longer pretend to hate it.
>>740847674>CUSTOMERS THAT ACTUALLY LOVE THE SERIESYou didn't even play the first game
>>740847808Redditbirth for sure. The Aerith death scene was pure unfiltered garbage.
>>740847674>final fantasy, Disney Editionno thanks
It's funny that the once authority of JRPGs needed to be retaught that their old formula is the winning one by people making turn-based titles today inspired from their past work.
>>740847674LOL
>>740847808both were garbage, but stillbirth is much more insulting because, if you break it down, it's a glorified filler episode that wastes your time on purpose
>>740847859I did. And I very much enjoy the remake trilogy even if I do long for the days of 4 niggas in a row and FUCK YOU SQUARE THAT MOBILE SHIT DOESN'T COUNT, I SEE CLOUD IN THERE, THAT'S MEMBERBERRIES FOR PEOPLE ON THEIR PHONES AND NOT AN ACTUAL TURN BASED 4 NIGGAS IN A ROW GAME I HATE YOU NIPS SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I JUST WANT CRYSTALS
>>740847674Jeremybarry thread x+1
>>740847934you know there's a reason why they made it garbage, right?
>>740847674>squeenix thinks zoomers have the attention span to care about a story for 7 years
>>740847674I haven't bought an FF title since XIII shat the bed. What a fucking abortion of a game.
>>740847674they wasted 3 big budget games and Cloud and friends. not every FF fan likes VII
>>740847808Stillbirth 100% since it aims to retroactively ruin something beloved
>>740847674>ALIENATES LOYAL CUSTOMERS THAT ACTUALLY LOVE THE SERIESNo, you love FF7. You never mattered. The actual loyal customers love CC and AC. That's who the remakes are for. Not you.You are irrelevant. /v/ needs to realize that they're a tiny bubble that doesn't matter. The world loves the compilation.
>>740847674>actionshitNo wonder
>>740847674they don't care. the games actually don't matter. even if it bombs spectacularly and actually 0 have bought it. it doesn't matter because that is not where the money is.they have turned FF7 characters as a brand, and merchandising is where the money is.do you how many FF7 Play Arts Tifa has been released? This Play Arts Shin Tifa (now with real clothing instead of plastic) is the 7th edition Tifa toy they have released and it always sell out.and that's not all, they have FF7 card games, music box and many more chachkis, because merchandise is now their money maker, the game is just a vehicle to market the toys and merchandise
>>740847741You play two games were the main story fit on 1 disc in the original.They put so much bloat into the game, you just wonder, what's even the point anymore
>>740847674Another day, another turn boomer melty. kekIt has never felt better to be an FFVII Remake Series bro. :))))
>>740847674But I enjoyed and unlike you I played the game in the 90s
>>740849669What's the fucking point of clothing if it's not cast off?
>>740847674Square and desperately failing to chase trends 5-10 years after they died.Name a more iconic duo.
>>740849305NTA, but we'll see if they pull the trigger or if it's a nothingburger. So for now, it's garbage.
>>740848547I feel a bit dirty for getting hyped for a bit seeing that trailer. Fucking mobile port crossover wank shit.NEW GAMES NIGGA4 NEW NIGGAS IN THE ROW
>>740847674As a VII-fag born in 1992, FFVII was my childhood and my favourite game of all time. The rebirth series is everything I ever wanted and more, I love seeing my favourite characters in 4K, they’re pretty much exactly how my minds eye pictured them.The people crying and shitting over the rebirths are zoomers who never loved the original
>>740851819Bot post. You weren't born more than a couple years ago.
>>740849669ff7 has been a brand since the term "compilation" was introduced to its universe, unfortunatelyin reality there's barely any people these days who actually care about ff7 (the 1997 videogame), most fans are secondaries addicted to the mental construct of the characters they've headcanonized by spinoffs, kingdom hearts or advent chidlren exposure (or whatever the fuck), but when you try having a discussion about the videogame and nail specifics of the story most can't followthe abhorrent remake has been the ff7 equivalent of "ff7 fan excited to play it for the first time" for a ton of players, so yeah, in that regard the games don't matter, all that matters is having an excuse for merch and for pushing the brand as you said
>>740849305You know that no matter what they do with it it will still be garbage because it was done terribly regardless.
I've played every mainline FF game and I loved Rebirth, I put hundreds of hours into it and it might be my favorite FF game. You are old and jaded, you'll find joy in anything.
>>740849305never played any of the 7 remakesbut what did they do to that scene?
>>740852317>I've played every mainline FF game "I'm a shit-eating, mindless peasant consoomer with no standards"
>>740847674Actually, Final Fantasy XV is what killed the entire franchise as a whole.>hyped for a decade as Nomura's Versus XIII>was changed into something completely different and Nomura's ideas were scrapped as he was booted from the project>end up having the worst combat system ever seen in a jrpg>the most empty, dull open world ever>the worst story in the series>shit-tier performance on consoles>launched completely unfinished>millions bought it based on the hype alone>those millions experiencing the worst FF condemned the series foreverFucking grim. And Barry defended this shit as his life's primary purpose for over a decade.
Final Fantasy has been trash since 10.
>>74085246112 was good.
>>740852436I'd say XIII is what initially fucked things up. 13, followed by 14 1.0, and then 15 was the killer combo that absolutely destroyed the Final Fantasy magic for most people.
>>740852431I also think it's great and have played every mainline FF game. You're the issue here. I've also played more JRPGs than you, and I can say that with certainty. You're not enlightened. you're just a doomer drone shithead. Get a personality.
>>740852431Why are you in a thread about a franchise which you haven't even played?
>>740852640post steam account age
>>740852640Even more based than me. I kneel, FF bro.
>>740847674Nothing but LARPUnlike most niggers here I played it in the 90s and Rebirth was great
>>740851469try to stop ppl from noticing Tifa being Nomura's personal nasty secondhand fap material https://i.4cdn.org/v/1780826810358281.jpghe plagiarized from an actual 1993(=97-4) porn game. >>740586724
>>740847674Loyal customers that actually love the series have already been lost after X, and even that is pushing it. XII if you want to be really generous.
>>740852461>>740852929Most FF core fans were still fans up until the trainwreck that was XIII. That was the first FF game that truly was shit and not just had middling-to-poor implementations of good ideas. XIII was the first truly bad FF game and the common consensus at the time from fans and non-fans alike pretty much says all that needs to be said about how garbage it is.Then 14 and 15 happened and the bait and switch FF7 remake announcements as well and now no one cares about the franchise anymore.
>>740852461This
>>740847674Square Enix Derangment Syndrome
>didn't even show a hint of the Scarlet slap fight in the reveal trailer for Revelation>showed damn near everything else that happened in Junon at the timeIt's cut isn't it?
>>740853209FF2 is the worst in the series. They made the worst game almost at the start of the franchise. No, it's not good, SaGafags. SOME SaGa games are good. FF2 is shit. Irredeemably shit.
>>740853381Hamaguchi says it's in. You also see Tifa breaking out of the gas chamber, which is right before the fight.
>saves Final Fantasy
>>740847674It's crazy how people have been begging for a FFVII remake since the mid 2000s, like I get it was babbys first JRPG but half of what came after it were way better, and now you have a subpar remake of a decent game
>>740847674This game is genuinely a masterpiece and you have to be a literal soulless husk not to see it
>>740852461*since 7, then 12 was good then it's trash again
>>740847808>>740847706I don't get why faggots blame XVI as if it SE didn't kill turn based the moment the merger went through.It's the best SE Final Fantasy
>>740853671>It's crazy how people have been begging for a FFVII remake since the mid 2000sNo veteran fan has EVER asked for a Final Fantasy remake. This was all the cancerous "new fans" from Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts, etc. We loved Final Fantasy because every other year we would get a completely new game, with new characters and a new world to explore. So why the fuck would we want to play the exact same thing only in fancier graphics?
>>740848469It's amazing how the first thing Rebirth does, is confuse the entire playerbase, make you vacuum and then make you hold L2+R2 to watch Sephiroth be evil
>>740851819>only praise the charactersCurious
>>740847859FF1 mogs VII Remakeand yes i mean the NES version not whatever remaster
>>740853209FF15 still has the most variety and content out of any FF game though
>>740849761This.But also the entire idea of breaking it in 3 games at full price was retarded
>>740847674Speak for yourself. I enjoyed the first 2 and I will play the third one.
>>740854097Funny, I grew up with several mega fans of FF who want remakes of 6, 7, 8 and 9. Maybe you shouldn't confuse everyone with just you.
>>740852610I agree. FFXV was just the nail in the coffin.
>>740854905No, it's largely responsible for the decline of FF. It's one of the best-selling games in the franchise for the reasons listed in that other post. It drew so much attention and was so fucking bad that the generation that grew up with it shrugged off FF forever.
>>740847674slop>>740847706kino
>>740852534FFXII isn't a bad game. Gameplay, soundtrack and graphics are fine, but the game somehow managed to waste an interesting setting like Ivalice, with a far from memorable plot and a mostly bland main cast.
>>740852640The only good FF game ever made is FF IV 3D on "hard" (just playing the normal game on DS). Every other FF is a waste of time.
>>740852534>>740855564idk how to say this, 12 is trash guys, and I say this as someone who grew up playing itthe story is practically missing a third act, the gameplay effectively vanishes after you reach a certain point with your gambits and the main protagonist might as well not be there for most of the game
>>740849761>Main story fit on one disc in the original Now this is some strange history revision
>>740855861Did you read what I wrote?
>>740847674I remember when people were trying to say it was gonna be good years ago. All you had to see was nuTifa and know where this dump of a demake was heading towards.
>>740854936It wasn't just FFXV. The fanbase was already quite disappointed and the false hope they saw in FFXV was just the last straw.
>>740853392It is the worst in the series but being an early FF game (and one not brought over to the US and EU until the Playstation version), it has less of a reputation compared to the games from 7 onward (really 6 but 7 is when FF became a household name).>>740854293And a lot of it is pretty bad. There's a reason Square Enix didn't even bother finishing the Lunafreya DLC despite the game selling so well. Everything about FFXV is rushed to hell and back and negatively affected the quality of the final product.
>>740852640>responds to the accusation that you're a consoomer with no standards with "actually I buy EVERY final fantasy game!"lollmao
>>740847674>t. doesnt play video games in the first placeFeel free to prove me wrong you wont.
>>740857028Anyone who doesn't like VIIR doesn't play videogames at all. FACT.
Anyone who likes VIIR killed FF.
>>740857675nope
>>740853934>>740855479bitch please
>>740857471Tranny mentality, your average 7R enjoyer, utterly pathetic lmao
>>740847674It's actually fanservice and nostalgia bait for boomers because zoomers won't know the original references.
>>740859190Whats next? having to walk to places? Having to fight and deduce bosses patterns rather than just letting me beat everything in 1 second? do people play videogames here at all?
>>740852354Never played the remake but my guess would be that they made super duper dramatic with a retarded overblown score. Not that the original was without flaws, Cloud spiel after dumping Areis body in the water was dumb (But maybe in character since he's really a wannabe edge-lord super soldier).
>>740847674FF7 rebirth was a fantastic game, i dont understand why you people act like this towards games that clearly dont deserve it.
>>740847674i liked it, but ngl i'm not looking forward to leveling up 4 luck materia per crit character AGAIN for revelation, they lost a lot of the OG charm and pacing too in their experiment to create a new timeline or whatever the fuck is going on. Aeris/th better fucking live this time even if its some weird branch like a toby fox game and Cloud fucking dies or something i don't care i'll take it as long as she lives after this time ghost bullshit.Chadley is Shinra FFX too right? took me a while to put the pieces together but it makes too much sense. picture him in the suit with the hood mask, do it. you know i'm correct
>>740849761I liked both the original and retrilogy, but i admit the retrilogy don't respect many points on the original game and is adding some cringe scenes. Yet the one with Red XIII made me laugh at least.What i disliked the most was adding sephiroth in Remake and trying to put too much highlight on Yuffie on stupid scenes, especially the one during Junon parade.
Metaphor was better than RebirthPersona 6 is going to be better than Revelation
>>740862489...In retard land.
>>740847803truth nuke>>740847706>written by some guys who watched a couple episodes of Game of Thrones once
>>740847934Pretty much. I still don't get why they decided to ruin the most iconic scene of the original
>>740847674Sucks to be you.I loved it and think its the best rpg released in decades.
>>740862671>I still don't get why they decided to ruin the most iconic scene of the originalbecause they want to put emphasis on Cloud state of mind
>>74084770616 had no standards going into it. 7r retroactively ruined a masterpiece
>>740856948>latest game is shit unlike *past game*>i've played all the games and disagree>LOL CONSOOOOOOMYour BMI is higher than your IQ score.
>>740862348that scene was actually really good but it still took me out of it since I had to reload to 100% the parade like 1 billion times since you have to nail it, and I ALWAYS get yuffie before this in the forest so not having her for the water snake fight was weirdher fucking off to do her own thing for wutai reasons felt right though, a good misdirect for "people" who never played the OG that don't know she gonna take their materia XD
>>740862772>I buy all final fantasy games, I play lots of jrpgs, I play more games than you, look at all my purchases!>DON'T CALL ME A CONSOOMER!!!!!!lollmao
>>740847674I can't even describe how much time I have spent gooning for tifa.
>>740862720Nobody gives a fuck about Cloud, the story ultimately revolves around Sephiroth and Aerith.
>>740863061>Nobody gives a fuck about CloudThis is Cloud's story, Sephiroth and Aerith are just higher beings used to explore Cloud psyche.
>>740847674Your loss, I loved Rebirth's combat, man. I'm interested to see if they can actually improve on it for the last one.
Should’ve left the original alone and not begged for a remake
>>740863061It is literally clouds story retard and devs have said that forever, thats why in both games you are literally locked with cloud in the field (same as og)
>>740853934If you think it was just that it was an action game I don't think you've actually played the game. I was excited for its dmc style gameplay, but what we got was no party members, no meaningful equipment, world map traversal was through a menu. It made Stranger of paradise look more like a mainline game. It truly stripped out anything that made it a jrpg.
>>740863061actually somewhat true, if he wasn't required for the final final scene i'd use yuffie vincent and i dunno cait sith, with barret tifa red. cids ok but mechanically he's similar to cloud at least in OG so i can take it or leave it, and if i'm being really honest i want to solo sephiroth with aerith for the style points.and if im being really really honest cloud had more character as a regular grunt in crisis core / his secret cutscenes and flashback content
>>740855887Remake and Rebirth are both just Disc 1 of the original version. These are facts.And Rebirth is still missing content like Rocket Town. All the bloat they added when there was still original content left out, so they'll either cut even more content or Revelation will be the longest game ever.
The important things is how japanese audience reacted to FF7R. Harsh reality for all of us: Japan does not give a rat's ass about filthy gaijin's opinions about their games, main priority is local market, THEN we see what's the deal in the reast of the world.Personally yeah, i think this lately tryhard epic vibe with overcomplicated plots and over-the-top animations that has been around XIII and the crystals bullshit has really diminished the quality of Square-Enix works. It the same shit we complain in every Kingdom Hearts game, for example, and i'm sure some anons share some of my opinionBut at the end of the day, if the japs like it, we can't really do much about it except leave angry reviews and low scores in whatever platform you got the game from
>>740847706>lets add a stagger barbut no way to make it increase faster besides more damage, we have Fire, Aero, Blizzard but these don't do anything special>one weaponLets also not add motion and directional based attacks to further limit attack options!>UltimaLets burn any interesting world building and global political power struggles for muh alien
>>740862089Rebirth problem was the awful pacing. Revelation seems to fix that
>>740864108So the japs have a higher purchasing power than the rest of the world? When will the 2m japaense sales announcement be made?
>is kino
>>740864357You are expecting way too much anon. It's a trilogy, people can't keep up. Their best bet is for them to reuse this combat for a full new game
>>740852354instead of aeris getting stabbed it flickers back and forth between like multiple timelines and shows cloud deflecting the sword in 1 but aeris gets stabbed offscreen in another or somethingand now she is walking around and talking but is like just cloud hallucinating her (or is it?!)its retarded but its just 1 retarded change in a long list of retarded changes
Remake was shit, so I didn't buy Rebirth. Simple as that.
>>740864357Not necessarily a higher purchasing power, but the game is made by japanese, so of course the main interest is how local players will feel about it, or if the profit aim was achieved in Japan at the very least
>>740864441But the japs think highly of the trilogy...
>>740862720I know but they could have shown him going insane without ruining the scene. The whole Forgotten Capital part was one of the worst vidya segments I've ever played.
>>740864567Fans are way older now. Many will just wait for the whole trilogy or need too much time to reach part 3.
>>740847674it's so funny they took 6 fucking years to release one shitty remake
>>740864567Then we're fucked, this is the next big thing for them, so they like it as it's coming and it's clearly not gonna change. Probably will get worse>Guest writer: Yabako Sandrovich
>>740864618The scene has to be built around Cloud not seeing whats going and going full schizo.
>>740864661So they think poorly of the trilogy? That's not what I was told!
>>740864695But he buried Aerith
>>740864867Yes, in a daze clearly, or blocked itJust like he blocked Zack
>>740852610No, it was worse than that. It started with XI being online, which meant a huge chunk of the fanbase skipped right over this entry, and was followed by XII, which was extremely divisive on release (and only half finished and the beginning of Squeenix's trend of being unable to launch a mainline FF without fucking it up royally), and THEN came XIII, XIV 1.0 and XV.
>>740865016XI was the last square ff before the enix merger and it really shows because it's fucking great once enix took the reigns everything went to shit
>>740864762I didn't say that but okay
>>740847674Based and true>>740847706>FFXVINow that's a 10/10 Final Fantasy
>>740847674Bradman is back to teach you how to play the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYbmcEKZoE
>>740864695Even though it's a sequel/multiverse bullshit or whatever, he wasn't even close to be like this on that part. He was still thinking he's Zack and he knows she's dead there.He only goes full schizo on the North Crater. That's why I don't get why they ruined the scene.
>>740847674>>740847706Why do you stupid retards keep ignoring the fact that Sony single handedly killed Final Fantasy and it's popularity?
>>740866237It's not a sequel and is not a multi-universe you stupid retarded fuck. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>740866309Ps is what made it popular first though
>>740866403Yeah. It's just garbage.
How is Advent Children DLC supposed to work as a game? Just have Cloud play delivery boy until Kadaj's gang shows up?
>>740847674FF7R are the best games Square have ever made. The biggest budget and highest production values a Jrpg has ever seen. You better enjoy it because we are not getting another Jrpg of this scale and size ever again.The next time we see another AAA Jrpg of the quality of FF7R's you can bet it'll be AI generated because nobody will ever invest half a billion dollars to make a fucking Jrpg. Only Square.
>>740847674So what was the point of the Time Jannies in Remake anyway?
>>740867590They backpedaled just like the director did with DmC original plot
>>740866403>It's not a sequel and is not a multi-universeTime jannies proved otherwise.
>>7408533922 is clear and away better than 13 and 15.
>>740866801No it didn't, Sony fucking ruined back in 1997, and now you have what you have now
>>740867895Not really, FF ps1 games were great, you only care about brands just like you only praised ot1 because you thought it was exclusive lmao
>>7408678957-8-9-10 was it's peak
>>740866237>Even though it's a sequel/multiverse bullshit or whatever, he wasn't even close to be like this on that part.Yes, in the original.In the remake theres a denial aspect of it, which ties up on how he could forgot about Zack as well.
>>740847674I just started playing it and I hit a fatigue point at Costa Del Sol and started to get tired of all the fucking minigames but now I'm in Golden Saucer and enjoying it againI was also doing all the field quests for Chudley which also drags things out way too much
>>740867495>>740866216Man I hoped the outdoor lighting improved but it still looks so bland, it makes the character models look ugly as hell
>>740867056Go through the events of AC by cutscenes and battles with endgame items and elvels, as simple as that. Meant to be hard mode endgame content.
>>740847674How did you convince SE to include you in Rebirth? Through Sony?
>>740864530your loss
rebirth is mechanically the best final fantasy has been in a very long timethey just need a new setting and a good writer and i have complete faith ff17 could be goodBut i am pretty sure its yoshiPs team again making it and that means it will be ass
>>740847706>cost 1/12th as much as reddit make>made with purpose and intent beyond just being a bouncy house theme park ride>not shilled to death and back with side projectsI apologize and you should too
>>740847674>the 2 most popular video game characters in Japan right nowFirst is Mario of-course.
