>"Dude, your choices in FO3 don't matter, like you can nuke a whole town and your dad just gets mad at you and no one le cares!">Start NV up, and immediately do the DLC that's first presented to you 10 feet from the starting area>nuke two entire whole fucking countries, not just one backwater town that no one much cares about, who built a town around a nuclear bomb>Waltz right over to the NCR outpost, ostensibly right next to where the nukes dropped>NPCs, right there in the immediate vicinity of nukes being not just detonated out of hibernation, but freshly dropped in from the sky out of nowhere, don't have a single comment to proffer on what happened, at all>walk east more, people who just mass-murdered a whole town for no reason but being gamblers or somethin, don't care you nuked them. >tune into the news radio station, no announcement that anything happened>they all forgive you for everything cause you're delivering a software update to robots that die in a few hitsBiggest psychological operation in human history. And it's not even close either. I legit feel like I'm taking crazy pills and I have no idea what's going on, and it'd be okay if it was a game that no one took seriously and it's just some cult classic, but there's a video that says this garbage is a masterpiece that has 20 million views, and I think I'm taking crazy pills. What the fuck is happening?
Nv better
Nv better tho
>>740850507Fallout has always been dogshit with this. Choices never matter. All you get is an animal house style epilogue that tells you what happens
oh, that's easyit's dlc so it doesn't count
>>740850507Fans of Bethesda slop just split on 2 teams, and one of them larps as fans of classic fallout games. They are the same insane cultist
>>740850507>nuke two entire whole fucking countriesNot really, just the supply lines, but yeah there's no impact on the environment.
Fallout fallout 2 fallout nv good. Because they are the real trilogy. Bethesda’s Rick and Sporky games are bad because they are tonally catering to the normalfag mongoloid.
>>740850507In my head if you play the DLC and launch the nukes, the game ends right there.
>>740850732NV is quirky Bethesda garbage too
>>740850567>>740850604Why? It seems like soulless, incoherent, absurd garbage. I get that it built on the basic FO3 engine and added good basic QOL stuff like iron sights, and all the different types of ammo and ammo-crafting, and all the other various IRL gun-nut bait. But is that all it takes to launder an inferior product? I guess so, but I don't like it.
>>740850682>it was just muh-supply lines!
>>740850970Yes? The game explicitly tells you they're supply lines to both factions, very important to both of them but especially the NCR since they only had that one after the Divide happened
>>740850732>muh bethesda le bad cause muh da fuggen normies So that speaks poorly on 1 and 2's quality then
>>740851098>desperately trying to save face for the bottom of the barrel Normalfags are so silly
>>740850886
>>740851074Dry Wells wasn't even a supply line, and even if they were just le heckin muh supply lines, yeah the NPC's should react a lot more than they do. In fact cutting off their entire armies from the Mojave should heavily impact the whole story, but it doesn't, because of course it doesn't. The whole entire poiint of the story is Avellone masturbating himself of Lanius's dialogue tree, in fact that's the entire point of the whole game, nothing more than enabling a self-suckoff session of Avellone by-proxy of Lanius. It's no coincidence that you can engage in dialogue with Lanius and magically convince him to abandon his whole worldview and life choices on the battlefield, despite not ever having to have a single meaningful conversation whatsoever with Mr House or ever try and convince him of anything. It's because Lanius is Avellone's one of many self-suckoff session self-inserts
>>740851182>muh bethesda le bad cause muh da fuggen normiesSo that speaks poorly on 1 and 2's quality then
>>740851349>normalfag seething because it’s being made fun of it by its betters
>>740850507Because the lonesome road is meant to be played at the end. Like just before the battle of hover damn. Otherwise your amnesiac ass has no idea what Ulysses is even talking about
>>740851449I'm less normie than you, I'm just sane enough to realize that that isn't worth anything.
>>740851449Fallout was for faggots too retarded for traditional RPGs and point n clokcs
>>740851484>meant to be played at the end>presented 2 feet from the starting area>run back here for no reason on the eve of an important battle even though no narratively compelling reason is presented for doing soYeah that doesn't really work
>>740851491>>740851504Hmmmnnnn, nyooo… not really
>>740850732>retard dares to call Bethesda's games rick and morty when Fallout 2 exists LMFAOOOOOO. You faggot Fallout 2 is dogshit made for proto redditors that can't help itself and has wacky immersion breaking dialogue choices and NPCs that literally say this is a video game. Fallout 3 is far closer to 1 tonally than 2, you fuckass fake fan.
>>740851310>muh Avellone!!Next time start with that so i can ignore your retardationBut ill bit one last time, im not arguing that lack of world impact but this is a old ass gameCould the final boss speech check be handled better? Yeah it could but its still better than Fawkes telling you to go kill yourself for shits and giggles
>>740851589Avellone is important to mention because New Vegas isn't an actual game. It's a glorified FO3 expansion pack, that was created to superserve the ego of one man, Chris Avellone, that's about it.
>>740851583>closer in tone >muh vampire larpers >muh cave of children living next to super mutants >muh republic of Dave >muh megaton>muh liberty prime >muh rickety city The only fallout 3 is close to doing is revealing how much of a bass ackwards retard Todd Howard really is in
>>740851546>even though no narratively compelling reason is presented for doing sobut you are presented a reason. The other currier is hinted through out the whole game that he has walked the same path as you and is stalking you. You literally 1st learn in Primm that he made you end up with the platinum chip
>>740850507The game is pretty soulless and feels unfinished
Vault 11 is cool. Everything else in this game is a completely utterly worthless embarrassing waste of time
>>740850507TLR is poorly written
>>740851741>circle back to the starting area for no reason cause you're a higher level now rather than addressing Ulysses's invitation earlier on
>>740851589>iSEA detected, OP wins
OWB is pretty cool too, even though it's a joke. Almost feels like a whole different game from this overly self-serious jerk-off
[Speech 100] West Big.
New Vegas = Fallout 2 > Fallout 1 > Fallout 4 = Tactics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 3
>>740851863Truke
>>740850507it's a babby's first RPG sort of thing. I wouldn't worry about the opinions of retards online, especially of the e-celeb variety
No one addressed me
>>740851839>>circle back to the starting areayes. This is usually how games work. End game often brings you back where you started as a type of reflection on how far you have come
>>740850662This, but unironically. Especially since the dlc wss done by cuckelone who tried to ruin Soiyers's vision.
>>740850507>there's a video that says this garbage is a masterpiece that has 20 million viewsI thought you were exaggeratingWow
>>740850507How would they know who did it?
>>740852237is the second guy the one who got filtered by fallout 1 and 2?
>>740852237>RussianBadgerI cannot stand this faggot
>>740852139It doesn't really work. There's no compelling reason offered to wait until later and circle back to Ulysses, only gameplay guides.
>>740851184>yoi can't have a quirky character in a gameWhy not? It's not like everyone everyone is quirky or that veronica is considered normal in game.
>>740850662>>740852209Truke, but also the DLC is 80% of the appeal, so that's a big problem. The fundamental game without the DLC is a shell
>>740852369The compelling reason is that if you tried to do fucking lonesome road at level 5 you would get giga-owned by the first enemies you come across.
>>740852372I agree, the post isn't mine obviously.
fallout 1 is the only fallout game that has dialogue worth paying attention to
>>740852424Not even fucking close. It's easy. You get top tier armor at a low level. It's easier to go right into the Divide immediately, than not to.
how many years of this same thread being posted over and over do we really need?
>>740852665You are whining about how if you deliberately sequence break it's not reflected in the story. You are so obviously looking for a reason to be mad..
>>740852735Multiple boards worship Bethesda. It's going to take Todd's retirement and a decade after
>>740852735As long as h tranner guy's travesty of a youtube channel is allowed to exist
>>740852807>deliberately walk 5 feet in front of the starting area, following the invitation you are given at the beginning of the game, and don't contort yourself into pretzels to try and ignore it for the sake of justifying the plausibility of the game's narrativeThat doesn't really work though, does it?
>>740852665You fucking retard is the reason why we don't have choices in games anymore but a shit ton of yellow paint everywhere
>>740852372Veronica is a retarded carpet munching dyke who forgot to have kids as part of ensuring the brotherhoodrats of stealing lasers continue existing in the future, she's voiced by a talentless whore felicia day and speaks in a way that jarring compared to other characters.
>>740850910steam ratings dont lie. nv will always be better. I played both 3 and nv. nv is more fun. simple as :)
>>740852915
>>740853382It's more fun cause it was built on other people's hard work, and added some basic QOL features onto that. But that's about it
>>740850507>Start NV up, and immediately do the DLC that's first presented to you 10 feet from the starting areaSo you're doing FailRP
>>740850507Fallout 3 was always better and it's only the most pretentious transexuals and Redditors who ever claimed otherwise. Better tone, better weapons, better atmosphere, better narrative, better environments, etc etc etc.
it's ok to like both, you know
>we need hard moral decisions with in-game consequences>sir, he’s already in the lobby
Why has no one pointed out that this isn't even true because launching immediate gives you Vilified rep with the faction you hit and they will KOS you.
>>740854205Also the fact that it's the entire fucking foundation and NV is just a glorified expansion pack built off of FO3
>>740850507>Playing Lonesome Road for any reason other than the equipmentSounds like a "you" problem
>>740854362Maybe cause if you actually play you realize that they don't try and shoot at you on sight even with vilified you faggot
>>740854531>just like ignore the whole thing that's ten feet away from the starting area and begs you to come, cause reasons
>>740853458Funny how the mongoloid nigger doesnt reply to this kek.
>>740854581Womm
>>740853458>I invited you to come along immediately after you emerged from Doc's house. Also I'm the only person who has any tangential connection to your personal past whatsoever as a courier.>but ther disclaimer of level 25! So just fuck doing stuff around and circle back or something, even though the lonesome road is right down the street from where you start out
>>740851184>durrrr pretending empty violence and hatred and anger for violence and hatreds sake is still cool in 2026 totally isn't a Redditors opinion!!!Reddit.
>>740854660Yes. And?
>>740854581Yeah, I remember when playing the game back in the day on 360 I went around killing literally everyone in Camp McCarran and the NCR fags STILL wouldn't aggro on sight after that. Kinda broke my immersion.
>>740854205Except that new Vegas was a top 5 rated game on /v/ long before any of those retarded memes started in 2020s.
>>740854914>Do some little personal favors for boone>he becomes your companion>mass murder the entire town of novac and all NCR members you can find>he doesn't care at all, gleefully joins in the slaughter and offers no commentWhat's going on?
I remember when I first saw NV when my friend was trying to show me how cool/fun the game is and he walked straight to the strip and started shooting off a Fat Man at everything. He was laughing his ass off at the mindless 10fps destruction and all I could think was "this looks like shit and Fallout 3 was more interesting than this"I remember playing it for myself and being severely disappointed that the story presentation and atmosphere was such a step down from Fallout 3. "Choices" in games are so often a total meme and have always been an illusion. The vintage 1950s Americana elements and Washington DC as the major city were simply superb and are instantly more iconic and memorable compared to the extremely fucking lame Redditor Mojave desert, it's night and day.Fallout 3 was always better
>>740854896In 2026 anything with too many words is Reddit. Zoomers are functionally illiterate and have no contact with actual literature in any point in their lives.
>>740855167>dude Blood Meridian is so badass>senseless violence is so hecking epic>fuck Christians>why yes I am transexual how did you know?
>>740855147New Vegas was always a tranny game and this board has always been compromised by those trannies.
>>740850507NV is better. But still the problem I'm pretty much all these games is that the world stands still unless you do something. In NV, the moment you're shot in the head, time stops. Nobody moves unless you tell them to. Those Great Khans will stay with those hostages until the end of time unless you do something. Benny will stay in The Tops forever with the chip. The dam will always be controlled by the NRC. etc etc etc.Say I want to stay in good springs and drink whiskey all day? I want to hear on the radio or maybe in a newspaper how shit is going. Fuck the chip, I got my brains blown out.I know it's a shit ton to program, but we got llms. The bar needs to be raised.
>>740854479How does that matter, you retarded faggot?
>>740855293>durrr I want video games to be so boring that I can just sit in one place and listen to the plot happen without meThis is not a video game.
>>740850507it's just transgenders who identify with the game as their transitioning starting pointAnd then they start pretending that they love the original fallouts
>>740854896>durrrr>totallyYou are peak millenial reddittroon, buddy.
>>740850910>seems likeEven when you shitpost you admit it's better.
>>740855163Yeah DC is a veritable post-apocalyptic gauntlet. Vegas is just a pile of gay boring crap in comparison, lacking even the political intrigue you might expect, just a mishmash of gay ebil factions that you take down easily
>>740855357>durrrr NO U!Lmfao.
>>740855345Its an example retard. Say I fuck around in a sidequest too much, like docking around with the powder gangers. Maybe the Legion takes over that outpost
>>740852325grab a chair, retard
>>740855297Because daddy Bethesda should get all the praise because they make the best games and Todd Howard is my personal god and Obsidian = devil please understand. Chess club!
>>740850651fallout?fucking every bethesda game is like this, and even other developers making an entry are just going to do the same thing because it was easier.
>>740855351I'm not even transphobic, but this post is 100% true and hits the nail on the head. These people are deeply unwell, and have a lot of issues to work out. They shouldn't use Fallout as a platform for exercising their own personal mental demons, that's wrong, they should know better and be more honorable than that.
How about the fact that you can nuke two entire fucking countries, poison and mass-murder their entire population via nuclear radiation, and they have nothing to say about it? What's up with that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt_xNjCzCQMTranny Redditor game. Being le evil is sooooo cool. Le morality is so le hecking GRAY!
>>740855162More reactive than every single 3D game.>>740855230Of course it's tradcath repressed homosexual that has this bitchmade opinion.>>740855390You might as well start saying heckin as well.
>he's attacking ChristiansI knew it lmfao
>>740855838>>he's attacking Christians>I knew it lmfao
Every single New Vegas fag is literally the exact same
>>740855768None of the NV companions meaningfully react to anything you do at all. They're all on highly specific railroads that rely on the PC doing specified objectives. None of them have any depth whatsoever or will take any objection to anything you do, they just react to tiny handful of prompts and have a tiny handful of characterization that cattle circlejerk over
new vegas redditors mistake lots of exposition with good writing
1 any single Legion or NCR hit squad could probably take out House's entire (upgraded) Strip army. What's even happening right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx4-HYQrYj8
>>740856293Should've left that jackass in the vault.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAgkKEvsLY
Can someone tell me where all these retarded bad faith arguments about Fallout New Vegas started? Every thread about it seems to have this weird anti intellectualism and bad faith reductionism into strawman. It's so fucking bizarre. It didn't used to be like this. Is it just the quality of internet discussions going down in general?
You're not an intellectual because you suck off Fallout New Vegas. You're a Redditor.
>>740854581>>740854914Idk what you did to broke the game but vilified always made people hostile to you on my game, unless you wore a disguise
>>740856293>this was looked at as the worst plot hole ever even though it's fine>House having his entire network hacked and compromised by a random Followers dyke who wasn't even trying to do that, is totally fine. >even though he's this massive pre-war genius who put in contingencies for WW3 and ostensibly protected an entire state from nuclear devastation, he got completely undermined and mogged by some random Followers bitch who is just moderately competent with science.>but Fawkes being unforgiving was a big problem
>>740856505>that voice>corny interruptions>admit to being fat10 seconds in.
>>740850507Thank God I never played that cucked dlc Well,I did, I actually finished it, but I barely remember anything. It was that dog shit.I pay no attention to DLCs that add completely separate areas with "content", I'm not looking for theme park hog warts legacy mini "experiences"using nested game loops. I want something that feels consequential, intended, and natural to the world and to the continuous intentional design of the game, and to the flow of the story of the game. Therefore, most DLCs in games can suck my dick. One of the best examples of games who did dlcs right is RimWorld, with the exception of anomaly all of the other DLCs perfectly integrate into your playing experience, shaping it differently from the ground up. THAT'S the dlc I want. Not a "go to this dock and speak to this npc who takes you on an 8 hour adventure in a place that doesn't matter WHAT SO EVER to the main story"Especially egregious when they make you have "choices" that imply an effect on the original games story, but it's actually nothing more than flavor text. Disgusting.
>>740850507Okay but your premise is shit.These DLCs came out at a time where people already beat the game. Doing what you're describing is how redditors metagame the reputation system.Play your role or fuck off. You don't even play the game at that point.
>>740856743One autistic italian spamming it is responsible for all of it.
>>740856743>schizo that hates nv for still being widely liked while 3 was forgotten>sharty troll tactic>general shitposting>autismtake yer pick
>>740855498Yes. Bethesda makes Fallout
>>740855280>Willingly coming to a site he admits is a tranny site to discuss a tranny game Anon...?
>>740856869>white male hates New Vegas>non-white pajeet pathetically tries to screencap the post in some desperate attempt to "own" the op
Actually we hate New Vegas fags because they are trannies and are legitimately the most insufferable people that you can ever have a discussion with
>>740856915>NO U!!!!NV fags aren't sending their best
>>740856807House knew about the intrusion and didn't give a fuck. In his arrogance he assumed they wouldn't be able to do anything. He didn't know about Yes Man though.
>>740856843You can pretend LR is just some fanservice non-canon DLC thing but entire vanilla game plot hinted at it and led you towards it
lollmao
>>740857058>the useless eater masses forgot about it, and were successfully indoctrinated into pretending NV has artistic merit therefore I win! Truth doesn't matter, only popularity and narrative humping! I win!
I don't play video games for the millennial writing about gray morality or the wonders of transgenderism. I play for fun memorable combat encounters and the sense of immersion in the world
>>740857008House was ostensibly able to detect and destroy the Followers Dyke bugging of his system in 30 seconds. Yet he was unable to detect the same dyke completely compromising his entire network casually by hacking into one of his securitrons. Yeah no. It just doesn't work. Pretending that the plot works is a cope
>>740850507>100 replies>literally not a single refutation of OP's pointIt's so fucking bad
>>740850507blind nostalgia is the problem.that and cultural peer pressure. there must be a better word for it. something similar to why people believe in their local religions, where it is a social negative to disagree with established beliefs. Fallout fans play other action Rpgs and bitch and moan about choice, consequence, and linearity. when their own game by their own standards is just as if not more shallow than the games they criticize. leveling is easy, items that can be used tin inflate your stats massively for skill checks. skill checks that are all instant win options. Fallout NV proved to me that its fans dont want choice, they want every choice to be a win. they dont want consequence, they want the illusion of it. that games world is also pretty barren and thinly populated, which if you are good at picking up context clues all the quests and their solutions are obvious. it reinforces the point i just made, the fans like games where everything is teed up for them with very minimal thought. it is a perfect normie game. the Call of Duty of Action RPGs.
>4 IPs in this thread
>tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny Is this actual psychosis
>>740857780The tranny in question is this guy >>740857775
>>740857775This mental asylum is so fun to read.
>>740857927The asylum in question:
>>740857780It's okay, we all know that New Vegas helped you transition. There's no reason to hide it anymore xis
>>740855446I hope he sees this, bro
>>7408552804chan is tranniest it's ever been now. Probably 100 times more.
>>740850732/thread
>>740858293If anyone is looking for a "tranny" transgendered person, look no further than this post in question
Faggot ass game
>>740850507It's very dishonest to compare FO:NV's last DLC to FO3's main story. You know what you're doing.
>>740850507yea the DLCs in all the bethesda fallouts and elder scrolls are really weird and intrusive. even as far back as morrowind with the dark brotherhood assassin coming to kill you despite often just barely getting to balmora.
>>740858616>he doesn't love having adventures in the Mojave with his roid-beast grandmaI think you're the faggot here anon
Yeah there's no question that New Vegas is a Reddit game.
>>740857780(yes)
>>740850507FO3 sucked balls, how is this even a contentious opinion other than nostalgia fags reminiscing about muh green filter shit?
>>740852325>Encounter that fag in a R6S match during it's comeback (before it died again)>Playing Fuse>They start promoting their youtube shit>Tell them in all chat no one gives a fuck>Troll them all match by shooting at their feet and kiting them around>Win match as mvp>All my friends start linking me the video because I was in it as "the god among men"He's annoying as fuck and should have bought be every skin in the game for making me a microceleb in the game when I didn't want to be. Had to deal with random friend requests constantly becasue of that fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfgnuabLeBY
>>740854890>This monkey doesn't understand delayed gratificationDo you need the game to babysit you and lock you out? When you drink bleach don't read the warning label either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CmsScTEiOE
>>740850567FPBP, /THREAD
>>740856293The one time Bethesda tried writing something a bit deeper about one's destiny, and the internet toons still crying about it.Todd still winning, he is still running Bethesda as his personal club. and what do the losers who made toonvegas are doing? sucking dicks and making YT videos about being gay.TES6:skyrim 2 electric boogaloo will be the best game ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bD_75Q_H1YYou can't make videos like this about New Vegas, all anyone talks about in New Vegas is "words words words words". Fallout 3 is a feeling, it's an adventure. It's not a "quest".
Regardless, New Vegas still has way more opportunities of you clearing out areas prior to getting the quest to and npcs actually reacting to it. In fallout 3, if you go to rivet city you are still forced to ask 3dog "Rivet city? Where is that?"
>>740856993Look anon this level of repping just isn't healthy
