What is the appeal of gacha games?
Free and low spec requirement so SEA can play themExtremely shallow writing so SEA can understand themFlashy and tacky so SEA can think they're hype
>>740852275i unironically believe whatever gacha hoyoverse has ever made is not a 10th of the scummery of the way monster hunter wilds is sold to you
>>740852275What is the appeal of kuru kuru
playing a live service game is like willingly getting put into a coma which maybe worked once as treatment for rabies
Perfect anti-games for people who want to feel like gamers but can't be bothered with gameplay. Like tired salarymen.
I like horsies, but not ponys, fuck ponies.
>>740852275For me it's png collecting
>>740852275Most gacha "gameplay" is just children arguing online about various ships. Despite most gachas never explicitly saying that two characters are in a relationship, they come up with insane mental gymnastics on why 2 characters might be in love and then spend the next 5 years passionately arguing about it.
>>740852275Free to play.
>>740852275The character depth.
>>740852275loving herta
>>740852275I play them so I can understand the characters I'm jerking off to on exhentai
>>740853861That sounds like a monumental waste of time
>>740852275I havent played since Amphoreous concludedWas that a good callDid they force Shaoji to hire an editor under pain of death
>>740853918It's a gacha game, there's no way to engage with them without it being a massive waste of time
>>740853083Whoa, /mlp/ is that way friendo -->
>>740852275The same appeal your average not-quite-porn kusoge has always had but they figured out that some people are stupid enough to gamble on the underdressed anime girls.
>>740852275Games like Genshin and Neverness to Everness clear your top 10
>>740852347>SEA It's not just SEA. Zoomers love gachashit too because shabbos goyim boomers made sure they can't amass any wealth so they have no choice but to play F2P games.
>>740853980Hobagi
>>740854594There's nothing stopping zoomers from using the same method I used to gain wealth. This is a cope by stupid communists.
>>740852275People should have made pokemon clones where you got hot girls and cool characters rather than monsters. And, no "monster girls" are niche, so stuff like digimon isn't what I mean. They should look like your average JRPG party members, but you're able to choose between hundreds of them.
>>740853918You wouldn't get it
>>740852275I just want to waste my time at work.
I kinda wanna get into Snowbreak, for some weird reasonIs the gameplay fun? Is it playable as a f2pfag?
I like that there's something new every month
>>740854061I just don't see the point in taking up a second job in order to jerk off>>740855612>SnowbreakDon't bother, that shit is donezo
>>740852275Feeling of gradual progression, and following ongoing stories.>But the stories never end!Different story arcs do. Not everything is amazing, but Star Rail for example has more hits than misses.
Fuck Herta in the ass
>>740852275Madam Herta is a peerless gem
>>740855612After the infinite maintenance fiasco, it nuked all fanserviceIt's Snowver
>>740852275It's for zoomers and 3rd worldies who are too stupid to find and play galge/dating sim VNs. Most of them don't even have PC.
>>740852275Credit flexing. Poorfags like you can never understand.
>>740853918Probably not entirely a waste, but 100% optional though.
ex-gacha addict hereIts just the feeling of having something to play everydayAnd gambling addiction
I like being milked by faggy anons (that probably don't even play the game they're using to tease me).
>>740852275most accessible option for weebshit that are either too poor or too lazy (sometimes both) for VNs
>>740855758One's entire existence is based around jerking off. Such is one's purpose.
>>740852275They are pretty good games if you have the time to spare. Unironically.
>>740856242which ones?
>>740852275It's free live service games with character driven update model. It's pretty good if you like core gameplay whatever gacha you checking and want to play with anime characters.Also tends to be phone friendly, which is nice for working people
>>740852275Hot girls/boys.
>>740852347>Extremely shallow writing so SEA can understand them>implying 99.9% of games don't have shallow writingI've played all these classic games /v/ praises for having "good" writing and it's barely above Brandon Sanderson slop.
>>740856385Pretty much all the high budget ones. The rest can be fantastic as well, depending on what you're looking for. I don't recommend tryharding though, those are the kinds of players they actively prey upon.
>>740853918Life is all about wasting time in a way that you agree with.
Kind of similar to rogueshite with microprogression. They both have padded gameplay, bunch of bullshit that takes hundreds of hours to unlock, and if you aren't doing so well, you can keep grinding until powerful enough to get a little further.
>>740856242>>740856602>They are pretty good gameshttps://youtu.be/uFDvwpjC3aA?t=346Breathtaking gameplay
>>740852275There is none
>>740852275I wouldn't know, I'm not a lobotomized natural slave
>>740857091Rougelikes are at least fun to play.Also best rougelikes are the ones without metaprogression. Metaprogression is what ruins most of them. And gachia seems like pinnacle of shit here, all metaprogression, 0 good gameplay.
>>740857408What's wrong with it?>>740857520That isn't a roguelike. Roguelikes don't have metaprogression, period.
>>740857408That's a less compelling one, AA one if you will. The more compelling ones have dedicated PC clients and spend millions upon millions on the presentation like be Wuthering Waves, Honkai Star Rail, Arknights: Endfield etc. I'm going to assume you just have prejudice and not are a brainlet and or posting in bad faith
>>740852275autism.or just comfy play when you have like 15-20 minutes of free time.
>>740852275Steal money from lonely losers by pretending to make a game but its just mtx in a wrapper
>>740852275they're free so i don't feel ripped off if they suck. that's the main reason i try so many of them, it's way less annoying to find out a gacha game sucks and drop it after spending $0 than to find out some $60 AAAslop sucks after the refund period is padded with high budget shit to trick you into thinking it's good.the gacha mechanic doesn't bother me because i have no problem getting by with starter characters and just playing the game until i have enough in game currency to guarantee whatever meta character i want.
>>740857879>What's wrong with it?It looks literally like fake video games from mobile ads. It doesn't look interesting or engaging in any way. If you want to see things shoot at canon fodder enemies then Bloons TD looks miles more fun than this.>That isn't a roguelikeIt is though.>Roguelikes don't have metaprogressionNeither does Noita. Unless you count these 10 random spells from orbs that don't change anything and you can still easily just go, get and unlock all of them on your first run.There is nothing in Noita that stops you from just 100% entire game on first run except for your knowledge of the game and skill at aiming/dodging/wans building. Which is how rougelikes should be.Why are we discussing Noita again?
>>740857978>I'm going to assume you just have prejudice and not are a brainlet and or posting in bad faithYou literally said "all the high budget ones". All my retarded normie friends either play blue archive or that other one that looks like Zelda BotW that I don't even know name of or if it's even a gachia. I literally do not know anything you've listed. Are they higher budget than blue archive?
>>740857978Oh I also know Mahjong Soul and I will admit it has fun gameplay. But that's because it is literally mahjong. All the gachia shit could be removed and it would still be fun to play. I am still using nyagger and I don't see why should I engage with any of gachia mechanics. It's fucking mahjong what's the point of the rest?
>>740858551>It doesn't look interesting or engaging in any way.You picked out a portion of the tutorial of a mobile game.Blue Archive isn't deep but you need to know what you are doing to get through some late game content.>It is though.No, retard. Nothing about a 2D shooter stuck in powder toy is a roguelike.>Why are we discussing Noita again?Why were roguelikes brought up besides you being a retard who thinks anything with RNG is a roguelike.
>>740852275Incel harem fantasy
>>740860225the best kind of fantasy
>>740854701Ok. How?
>>740860179>You picked out a portion of the tutorial of a mobile game.I literally just searched for "blue archive gameplay no commentary" and picked the first result.>Blue Archive isn't deep but you need to know what you are doing to get through some late game content.Such an unique game mechanic lmao.>Nothing about a 2D shooter stuck in powder toy is a roguelike.Steam classifies it as a rougelike. It has perma death, no saves, throws you into a procedurally generated world that you are supposed to learn and master by accumulating knowledge and skills via trial and error. So yeah, that sounds like a rougelike.>Why were roguelikes brought upYou've compared gachia games to rougelikes: >>740857091
>>740854594Piracy exists.
>>740860615You wouldn't pirate a pc
>>740852275doll pussy
>>740853980Planarcadia is dumb fun, mindfuck, and aura moments
>>740855982based
>>740860575>I literally just searched for "blue archive gameplay no commentary" and picked the first result.I know. That would be a dishonest representation of any game that isn't some purposefully flashy action game. You admitting to be shallow.>Such an unique game mechanic lmao.I didn't mention any game mechanics. It's an RPG. You have to consider each character's stats, party composition, positioning, which characters and items to prioritize leveling and spending resources on, etc. It isn't deep or particularly hard, but you aren't going to get that with 14 minutes of the very first part of the game.>Steam classifies it as a rougelike.Actually kill yourself.>So yeah, that sounds like a rougelike.Roguelikes are simultaneous turn based, grid based tactical RPGs that usually have modal "verb -> object" type controls. Nethack is a roguelike. Angband is a roguelike. Elona and Elin are roguelikes. Dwarf Fortress in Adv. mode is a roguelike. Noita, Binding of Isaac, deckbuilders, whatever the fuck aren't roguelikes.>You've compared gachia games to rougelikes: >>740857091 #I know you recently got internet in your village and are new to anonymous imageboards, but that wasn't me. If you had basic command of the English language you would know it wasn't me from the simple fact what I'm saying doesn't match what he's saying.
>>740853980planarcadia is great especially after the utter slog that was amphoreus and having to sit through 3000 hours of cyrene bullshit
>>740860615Zoomers are too braindead to learn how to pirate.at most, they might know how to download infected files from scam sites
>>740852347it's just shallow worldbuilding that asians tout as good writing.it doesn't even have gameplay, it autoplays for you. gacha is mixtape for weebs and asians
>>740862362>That would be a dishonest representation of any game that isn't some purposefully flashy action game.Every time I want to look at video game gameplay I just search "[game name] gameplay no commentary". Nothing dishonest about it, it's the best way to check random game's gameplay.>I didn't mention any game mechanics.It was a tongue in cheek joke anon.>Actually kill yourself.Not now, I have still some games to clear. Games that don't look like mobile ads though.>Roguelikes are simultaneous turn based, grid based tactical RPGs that usually have modal "verb -> object" type controls.That's just dungeon crawlers.>NoitaRougelike>Binding of IsaacRougelite. Pretty much borderline case.>deckbuildersThis is orthogonal. Can be a rougelike, can be something entirely different.>but that wasn't meThen why are you hijacking the conversation I had with that anon if you are not willing to stand up to his claims?
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>>740862013>>740862552Im not sure i believe youi dont believe that they actually self correctedOr they will rubberband back to their old bloated ways in the final stretch of this story arc
>>740863197so far it's alrightthe stuff has made me laugh, the new characters are mostly likable and old ones like Silver Wolf, Blade, and Himeko are getting a lot of screen time. Yapping is still there but at least it's not as melodramatical as UGH THE FLAME CHASE JOURNEYSucks if you don't have characters for the new combat gimmick, though.
>>740862876You don't know a single thing that you are talking about.
>>740862876can't even spell "rogue" correctly you fucking pajeet
The hot girls and NTR porn
>>740852275its literally cute girls and gambling, if that doesnt appeal to you, then you might be a HOMO
>>740852347FPBP
>>740855659same character?
>>740865284do you know any other characters that look retarded like her?wife, btw
>>740864209This.
>>740852275EXPLOSIVE gameplay
>>740860615have you tried pirating monster hunter wilds? it not only involves dequarantening files classified as "trojan" AFTER finding a reliable source but also going to your boot and deactivating a safety feature every time you want to play it and reactivating it every time you're done playing, 10% of this is enough to discourage most zoomers for good reasons
>>740852275surprise mechanics
>>740852275Remember MMOs before 2010? It's them but you don't have to talk to anyone.
>>740867207>woman I want shows up on screen>I cum
