>Almost 200k players on Steam for its final patch >Around 800k players counting consolesWhy did Sony kill Destiny 2 again? It just shattered all its previous records
cuz it sucks
Because executives need a new thing to put their name on so they can claim all the credit for their promotion / stock package. You'd have to be braindead to shut down destiny 2. It's like saying Tarkov had it's fun and we're going to EOC now. makes zero fucking sense when you got the world's most dedicated retard paypigs at your beck and call. The same people who play Destiny 2 have bought every single Xbox, every halo, every destiny DLC and begged for more like good piggies. Retards in charge, no other explanation.
>>740855396because a busy funeral doesn't undo edge of fate and renegades. game is expensive with a rats nest backend to develop for
>>740855396Concluding Destiny 2 wasn't the problem, it had already run its course and didn't bring enough money. The actual mistake was not making Destiny 3 and spending as much money as they did on Marathon. It's a good game, but not 200+ milltion dollars good.
If it did those numbers regularly they would have not killed it
>>740855396It was a tower of Babylon and they should have been making D3 before "The Final Shape" even released, over 2 full years ago. But Sony wouldn't greenlight D3 and axed or took away everything else Bungie had, so they had to put everything into the transexual fever dream that is Marathon. Marathon should have had like a 25mil budget at most for how empty and worthless it is. Instead they spent 250mil minimum and has less players at it's best than Destiny at it's worst.
>>740855914it did do those numbers regularly until they ruined it and there was nothing to do liveservice games dont live on their own.
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2 again? It just shattered all its previous recordsBecause their decisions aren't based on profits. For whatever success and profits that Destiny might have, Destiny and Destiny 2 are old. It's already been filed as a success. It doesn't move the "speculation" much. It's a "done" deal. Meanwhile Marathon is the "future". And they already invested an insane amount of money into Bungie and Marathon to make this happen. It was meant to become the next big thing and rule the entire genre and broader market. That it didn't is a problem. Meaning it needs to be fixed by doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down. Investing even more into it until it becomes real. And when Marathon is a success, our stock price will rise since everything is but a speculation market. And the people who are speculating aren't looking at whole pictures, they're looking at the exciting "big thing". And they need Marathon to be that thing.
I haven't set foot in D2 from the minute they sunseted content that I paid for.Until they bring it all back Bunghole will never see another cent from me.
>>740855914more than that destiny single handedly funded bungie since 2019, funded development of like 5-6 cancelled projects, 1000+ employees, 2 HQs and marathon.
>>740855396They're doing it so they can do a huge hyped up relaunch in 1 - 2 years once they decide marathon failed and need a quick cash injection. If they kept the game up this entire time they wouldn't be able to create market hype they'll be able to once they 'decide' to bring it back.
>>740855914The numbers were so low in the first place because we didn't have any new content
>>740855396>Almost 200k players on Steam for its final patch167k on day one and 133k on day two...
>>740856104Anon, they started removing content from the game all the way back in 2021 lmao. Destiny fans were just loyal blind sheep for far longer than they should've been. What you're seeing now is akin to people visiting a theme park before it shuts down. It's digital tourism
>>740855396Because the suits at bungie are fucking retardedTheir reward is bankruptcy btwEven if they start d3 tonight it's too late
They needed to end the game with Lightfall like originally intended instead of raping it into a filler expansion and move onto destiny 3. Even if they shutdown marathon and moved everyone to destiny 3 now it wouldn't be out until 2030.
>>740855548Hasn't stopped any of their franchises
>>740855396Humiliation ritual.
>>740856465>removing content from the game all the way back in 2021thats not what killed it, while i agree it sucks, for the most part no one gave a shit about old content. >What you're seeing now is akin to people visiting a theme park before it shuts down.yeah no shit, what i am saying is that they neglected popular park and are now shutting it down in favor of new hip coffee shop that no one likes.
>>740856563>that's not what killed it.That's what caused me to never return. I bought a DLC and got busy with life. Came back like 1-1.5 years later to find content I had paid for I no longer had access to. Between that and all the added MTX compared to D1, I cut my losses and never looked back. I am far from the only one who did so at that time.
>>740857024Yeah a lot of people did the same, but surprisingly destiny was always able to lure in new players, even tho new light exp is worst shit ever. Plus fanbase is so buckbroken they want d3
>>740855396>all these people are playing the old game they like instead of the new one they don't!>let's kill the old game and then they'll all move to the new one!
>>740855396I can’t believe they finally introduced the winnower in the final update
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2 again? It just shattered all its previous records
Marathon free week stops today right? I wonder how many players are going to buy the game and keep playing.
>>740855548it really doesn't. it's a fucking fantastic game.
>>740857353lmao
>>740857353zero LOL
>>740855548Better than some dogshit extraction slop. Seems like the market has spoken, hubris doesn't allow sony to recognize that
>>740857353>free weekend ends at 10 am EDTOH BOY!
>>740855396>>740855914It was killed due to mismanagement on bungie's part. The Final Shape should have been the last expansion, just like every player expected it to be. But Bungie tried to milk it for as long as possible by releasing these smaller-scale expansions that few people actually gave a shit about. Not to mention the whole portal fiasco.The appetite for Destiny is very much still there, as proven by the surge in player count for this final update, they were just done with Destiny 2 specifically. Destiny 3 would have done extremely well but they decided to go for the quick buck instead and it backfired massively. Now Bungie doesn't have any games that are popular. Good one guys.
>>740856403you say that like an update that doesnt add much new content to the game doing significantly better than two paid expansions doesn't mean anything
>>740855989This is not what happened. Bungie are the reason S3 doesn't exist. They did not want to make D3. It's been reported over and over that activision was telling them to start dev on D3 and Bungie didn't want to which is part of why things didn't work out between them.If you look at bungies track record they have done this several times. They get bored of a franchise and then they stop caring, they stop delivering on promises. They're a studio full of art hoes and art hoes are NOTORIOUSLY flakey when it comes to commitments. This is Bungie Halo all over again. 'we're bored of our IP!, let's turn this Halo 3 DLC (ODST) into a full game so that we can get out of our Microsoft contract quicker'.
>>740857882anon the bungie that made D1 mostly no longer exists. the studio is now largely people who loved destiny and wanted to work there.
>>740857774Final Shape was already past the point of no return. Lightfall was supposed to be the end and then they gutted it and turned it into filler garbage because they wanted to shove more expansions out and they knew once the "final" expansion was out they would lose a massive amount of people after that
>>740857720What I want to know is why they dont have PvE mode, even Tarkov has one now (and they justified needing to buy it as DLC because they needed to make PMC bots) and bungie should have been able to pull a lot of shit from their Destiny database, but no, just expect your mostly PvE audience to swap over to PvP because reasons?Seriously it would have been such an easier sell if they just any form of gameplay that doesnt involve PvP, but no "we made Halo ergo the Destiny playerbase will jump over to our Tarkov clone, dont worry, they will like it because instead of playing as ugly notrussians they get to play as ugly trannies instead"
>>740858017I heard it was because Final Shape wasn't going to be ready in time so they quickly slapped together Lightfall instead.
>down to 6k players before the free week is overGRIM
>>740857024NTA but I still can’t believe people where ok with them taking content you paid for, it’s fucking wild to me
>>740858052They still wanted to keep Destiny 2 running in a reduced capacity before Marathon's plagiarism delays. Marathon having PvE would've meant they're competing with themselves, and reusing Destiny's content would've gotten them the negative press of>"they're selling us back the shit they removed from the game we already paid for"
>>740855396Destiny was bleeding money badly since 2023 and had carried the stigma of deleting paid content (even if it was dogshit) since 2020. The reason people are gushing over the final update is because they overdelivered for the final hurrah
>>740857642the absolute state of sony.
>>740857774>The Final Shape should have been the last expansion, just like every player expected it to be.I seriously don't know what they were thinking with this. It has such a sense of finality to it, everything about that expansion and its ending is screaming "game is done, no more game after this". Me and a group of friends had played it on and off since high school and we all just collectively decided we were done with the game after doing the final TFS raid together. For a while (I hadn't kept up with the game much at all since beyond light) I assumed that was actually the plan from bungie, for the game to be done. It should been >hype everyone up for the end of D2>release TFS>fairly well-received>game done>put D2 on life support>execute everyone involved with the conceptualization of marathon>sony pls gib money for D3, we'll have it to you in 26 years
>>740855396Just re-release Destiny 2 with all the dlc and content that got deleted over the years and new players will flock to. Sony is stupid for not forcing them to do it.
>>740858647>and content that got deleted over the yearsanon, i...it's gone, it wasn't just removed from the game, they literally deleted it, it no longer exists
>>740858360I didnt mean actual 1 to 1 content thats recongizablezI mean shit like AI pathing and generic humanoid movement animations that you can slap on a bot. My point being they should have had everything but the models from the enemy already done (by virtue of copying it from D2), so what was that 300 mil + years of dev time spent on? I also doubt many would have actually compared destiny 2 to marathon just because marathon had bots.
>>740858709>it's gone, it wasn't just removed from the game, they literally deleted it, it no longer existsdoubt.jpgthey just said that so they wouldn't be sued into oblivion for stealing people's money.
>>740858748Destiny 2 players have been shooting the same enemies for like fifteen years, they'd know if you just reskinned them.
>>740855548Destiny 2 is the best coop fps ever made.
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2why the fuck do zoom zooms whose balls haven’t yet fully descended yet keep parroting this shit, this has nothing to do with ‘muh Snoy’, it’s always been the higher ups at Bungie that are their own worst enemyBungie was their own worst enemy at Microsoft Bungie was their own worst enemy at Activision Bungie was their own worst enemy at SonyBungie are their own worst enemy full fucking stop
>>740858989>can't blame the company THAT OWNS BUNGIE
>>740858856I mean true, but the option they went with was no Destiny players shooting at anything at all instead, seems like the worst of all worlds
>>740859104They made shit decisions when they were under MS, they made shit decisions when they were independant and they are now making shit decisions under SonyPublisher get a lot of perfectly justified flak for being tards but by now it should be obvious that Bungie is no better
>>740855396Bungie execs pulled off a masterful heist. They stole Sony and their employees’ money twice while doing everything Sony told them to stop doing. Godspeed you sociopaths, I wish you a very peaceful OD on top of a crying Thai ladyboy.
>>740859630>microsoft made shit decisions>activision made shit decisions>sony made shit decisionspretty simple
>>740856563No one who played the game actively gave a shit if they removed old/useless content. People who want to play brand new fucking hated the idea of having no good starting point. Its the WoW problem, every few expansions WoW makes a brand new starter zone to skyrocket you up through levels/content
>>740859721Are you forgetting how Bungie owned themselves for a while before begging to be bought up by big corpo again?
>>740855548as someone who is one of the few who plays it, it also oscilates between sucking and sucking hard. Right now they ''rebalanced'' the game again to make it suck really, really hard. They are inept without a doubtI want this company to go down
>>740859721Activision made the least shit decisions to be fair, they ended up stepping in and giving Bungie a ton of resources so they could fix D2 with Forsaken after the disastrous launch. Bungie absolutely did not deliver on the agreed contract and promises they made with Activision yet they still got treated well by them.And then the very moment they left Activision, Bungie immediately started going hard on eververse and the seasonal bullshit that ultimately killed the game.Bungie higher ups are absolutely to blame for everything bad that happened to Destiny. Seasons, Vaulting, pretty much everything.
>>740855791largely this. Destiny narratively ended with the death of the Witness (and thats when I uninstalled), and becaues they flip floped on how and when they were going to close out Destiny 2, Beyond Light and after was a clusterfuck, with the whole Witness thing just being an unsatisfying wet fart. But it gave most of the playerbase the out they had been looking for. Destiny narratively is dead, no matter what Byf or some other lore fag wants to say, because they wasted their load on the one aspect of the lore that they could really build around. Everything else is not enough to build a game around.
>>740860191There's actually a new ending they added in the update
>>740858709this excuse always strikes me as odd, even if they completely deleted it, just make it again? they made it once, they can make it again
>>740855396Its at 75k nowMarathon is below 9k
>>740855914It used to do those numbers back when Bungie invested time in making new content. They let is bleed to death themselves after The Edge of Faith.
>>740855396Sony/Bungie decided to kill D2 at the start of the year, before Marathon had launched. It made sense at that point, since Marathon was a new product with a lot of potential and D2 had been losing players for a while. Of course, when Marathon ended up performing so poorly it makes it look really bad in hindsight, and now they're stuck with two dead games. The real question is what will happen next? D3 hasn't started production, and it would probably take 6+ years and $200m+ to make. Is it worth the risk, considering Bungies recent performance? But what else can they do? Some smaller game - maybe a singleplayer title - to prove they still got it? A Marathon remake would honestly have been perfect, but I wonder who'd be willing to buy one now that Marathon (2026) exists and have soured the brand
>>740860574They should buy back Halo
>>740860684Would you spend half a billion buying an IP for a studio that's made nothing but bad decisions in the last decade?
>>740860462Free week+3 days is over I don't even care about this troon corporation but they are fucking retards for not doing a spin off of their dad gaymurr cash cow
>>740860787Can't get worse lol
>>740860684Companies don't sell their IPs unless they're about to go bankrupt. The reason being that an individual needs to make the decision to sell, and if he sells it to a company that then makes a lot of money with it it'll look really bad for him because his company could've been making that money.
>>740860906Shutting them down would be a smarter move
>>740860457Anyone with any talent was fired immediately after exercising said talent. The guy who can make it again is working contract jobs to fix AI shit now.
>Microsoft took the blame for Bungie's failure>Activision took the blame for Bungie's failure >Bungie goes independent. >Must be Bungie's fault now?>No, they just need time>Time passes. >Execs start crafting a beautiful golden parachute >Still not Bungie's fault >Juice evaluation and revenue >Still not Bungie's fault >Sony buys Bungie for $3 Bill>Execs buckle into their parachutes >It must be Bungie's fault now>Retards blame Sony
>>740861287I do blame Sony, for being dumb enough to buy Bungie
>>740855396Bungie is located in the most expensive city in America, they hire hundreds of people and greenlighting a destiny 3 means paying a few hundred people high salaries to work on it for the next 5 years. Sony cant afford that so if Marathon dies, that's it for Bungie. Sony is going to gut them up.
>>740861706Maybe but I wouldn't bet on it, 4 billion dollars is a hell of a sunk cost.
>>740858856they did reskin them the uensc is fucking cabal reskinsto the end they could never make anythi g fucking new
Guys I'm having a blast, I think im going to buy it after the free weekend, somebody stop me!
Destiny threads on /v/ are funny because you can clearly tell that most people are just butthurt because they don't have any friends.
>>740861770Don't forget, they shut down Firewalk Studios after Concord flopped. That might only have been a 0.5b investment, but they didn't even try to salvage the studio or any of the developers
>>740859104their only mistake and sin was buying bungie and i assure you, they regret itbungie is s tumor that only destroys and creates nothingyou know that lazy fuck that talks a good show but in the end never delivers shit and is always stealing stuff and borrowing monry they never repay? trans it up to the brims and thats bungie
>>740860024i still remember when we thought activision was the cancer lmao>itll be better when theyre independentlmaoooo
>>740858989>Microsoft cracking the whip was the reason why we got Halo 2,3 and ODST>Activision cracking the whip was the reason why Destiny's expansions were so good because activision had to scramble their COD studios to work on themTurns out publishers were good after all
>>740855396Sony really bet on the wrong horse, huh?
>>740862169Thats probably why they wont shut down Bungie, the GAAS dream is still alive.Or the free weekend was to gauge player interest in free to play and shutdown will be announced in a month, if its not then Sony will keep shoveling money into this burning dumpster of a company
>>740862993they are slowly turning marathon into destiny lol
>>740855396The Assassination of Marathon by the Vaulted Destiny 2.>Already back to 10K and hovering until botted to 11,000 on "peak hours">Before F2P ends in 3 hoursGrim. F2P went off like a wet fart in an elevator.
>>740861770Anon, they put their chips ALL-IN on Concord. Sony is THAT stupid.
>>740855989>Marathon should have had like a 25mil budgetNo. The correct answer is: "Marathon should've been cancelled after TEN (10) PLAYTESTS said it played like shit across THREE (3) GENRE changes."Same as Jade$out (formerly: Jade$game).
>>740858856you say that but they definitely reused some enemy animations in marathon, even if they're hidden under a different coat of paint
what the fuck does sony do now? are they really going to keep throwing away money at marathon even if it will never generate profit? for what purpose? to own some chuds online? if this was any other studio this game'd be shut down yesterday. F2P ended, one week after a big patch and its already down to S1's end of wipe numbers. we may see below 10k peaks by the end of june. sony will keep this flop alive for what purpose?
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2 again?>F2P>predatory monetisation>vaulting of contentTell me how much money does one player spend on D2?
>>740863302>Sony is THAT stupid.Someone HAS to be paying them to do it right? or maybe blackmail? how can company as big as sony refuse to look at the data and say "this will literally not make money"
>>740855396I'm enjoying playing destiny right now, gotta say I have missed the gunplay (luv me Sturm and Drang), but I wish there was some way to play the vaulted campaigns. If anything just for the music and setting.
>>740863701Sony could go for the Fallout 76 route by restructuring the team so they bleed less money and hope it eventually goes green like 1-2 years later. Any game can profit, if you have enough resources to burn.It'd be smarter to shut it down, though that will depend on how much Sony wants to keep their pride in front of the investors. They were undoubtedly humiliated when Concord crashed and burned with no survivors.
>>740863830>Someone HAS to be paying them to do it right?it's definitely the dumb trannies at Bungie which basically gave them false hope as they hyped up Marathon (which was supposed to be their golden goose that they spent so much time and money on). Basically, they told Sony to forget about Destiny 2, as the player count was "mid" and that Marathon would be the next big thing, and that the 4 Billion dollars Sony spent on Bungie totally didnt go to waste because Marathon was going to solve everything. Instead it all turned into a giant humiliation ritual for them, as we see here.
>>740863701>for what purpose?Sunk costs, that shit cost then 4.5billion, they need to see Bungie fail at least one more time before they are willing to admit that this was a terrible idea.>to own some chuds online?Sony seems to be in a very weird spot with the culture wars, sure you have manfaces and diversity maxing in games Horizon, on the other hand they were more than willing to cut their losses with Concord and Highguard, so its not like they are actually invested in owning the chuds (not that any corporate entity is), they just seem unwilling to let their devs shoot themsleves in the foot with anti-marketing, then wonder why their shit isnt selling.Some sane heads remain who are keeping the company away from the worst of this shit, but they seem to lack the power/will to put their foot down and demand their games dont look ugly
>>740864013lmao troons on the brain
people are returning for a funeral and nostalgia, but the numbers are going to fall off quickly once people all remember why they quit in the first place in a week or so.
>>7408638306 years ago during speak scamvid they FOMO'd into the ATH of live service games, dropped 4 billion dollars for bungie who had a 30 million player base for destiny and went all in on a new live service.Now the gaming market is nothing but cheap friend slop and demakes as the economy has imploded after scamvid, as everyone told you it would.I'd assume Sony got financial advice form /biz/
>>740864075Highguard wasn’t Sony anon.
>>740864075>its not like they are actually invested in owning the chuds (not that any corporate entity is)Lmao. Brother, the heads of every company in the ENTIRE gaming industry unanimously took a fucking oath to forgo profits for the sake of pushing the agenda. Why? Who the fuck knows. Blackmail? maybe in some cases. But the fact is that the entire fucking industry went full steam ahead with it, and they aren't stopping, the culture changed, and is continuing to do so. People, like you, are starting to care less though, which is quite interesting.
>>740864192Shit, my bad, well I stand by Concord being proof that if shit isnt selling then Sony has no problem dumping the chud owners
>>740864140still better than marathon which managed capture a grand total of 40k people, only on the first daywith f2pand a big s2 update and wipeyeah D3 would have been the better choice, you just know destiny fans would have eaten it upnow instead of ez money you have no money coming in from marathon while having the same development costs, 400+ devs working on marathon
>>740855396Sony wants to kill Bungie. Ever since Destiny 1 it was clear they were mismanaged and couldn't be fixed without replacing the whole company, hence why they were put up for sale. Any other answer is tourist level.SIE already absorbed the most promising part of Bungie internally, the rest of Bungie was set up to fail.
>>740864251Naw man, thats tinfoil hat level, far more likely is that they are all hiring from the same pool that was purged of all wrongthink years ago.Sony execs dont know what customers want, they hire people for that, sadly the only people they can hire are the luddites pushing this agenda
destiny was interesting when the traveler tried to run away from the darkness but rasputin shot it in the asshole to ground it on earthcourse they retconnned it for no reason and made the lore gay
>>740864013I doubt it Bungle themselves saying that. It was more BUNGLE telling Sony "these other games fucking suck. Invest in Marathon" when shit that already had a niche base (Last of Us multiplayer) would've made SOME money if not breaking even + $1,000 USD because Bungle felt threatened Abby Dilation Simulator 2 would've shitstomped Marathon (and it would've going by the player numbers here).
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>>740864354>SIE already absorbed the most promising part of Bungie internally>thinking there is any good part of BungleLMAO.Jason Jones and the C-suite scammed Sony of $3.7Billion and honestly: Hats off to them. They're pushing 50-60 and wanted out and they got a hell of a golden parachute to torpedo their company of 30-40 years after being starting out as a Mac only company.It's fully on Sony and Hot Shit Hermen for not doing their due diligence in buying the fucking company.
>>740860574I like how you don't even consider fixing current Marathon as a path for Bungie to take.
>>740864805what the fuck is there to fix? the game from the ground up is an abomination.
>>740860574nobody actually wants to replay marathon. Bungie makes bad games with good lore
>>740864897I like it.
>>740864957Too bad it's only you and 50 others. Gonna throw Sony A cool Billion (with a B) to keep it going?
>>740865070>50Marathon never dipped below 3000 players.
>>740864805There is no path to fixing Marathon.>Had five (5) playtests>Each one said the game played like shit and they weren't interested>Flailed around and changed from Battle Royal sloppa to Extraction sloppa>Still getting negative playtests that said it played like shit>NO IT'S THE PLAYTESTERS THAT ARE WRONG!>Ram the game through anyway>(YOU) and Bungle are here
>>740865170UH-OH, Stinky!Your next line is:>B-B-BUT MAINTENANCE!
>>740865070That's not accurate.Each player needs to spend around $200k for the game to break even right now excluding operating costs and continued development.
>>740858245>people where ok with them taking contentNobody was ever ok with this.
>>740857882Bungie tried to get D3 and other Destiny projects greenlite multiple times under Sony once they realized it was time. Sony refused and you can see the results now.
>>740864805Marathon's problem is not that the extraction mode is broken or deficient (it's fine by all accounts), it's that, as a commercial product, the game was doomed from the start. Extraction PVP games are niche, so spending a AAA budget to make one is absolutely retarded.To fix Marathon as a commercial product, you'd have to rebuild the game and turn it into, ironically, a PVE co op game with optional PVP like.. Destiny. But to do that would take several years and $200m to $300m more, which would give Marathon an aggregate budget of probably half a billion if not more. And even after doing all that, the brand itself is poisoned, so there's no guarantee anyone would start playing.I don't think the game will ever become profitable.
>>740855396pretty much boils down to "old thing bad, new thing good"Destiny is an inherited IP, so any success gained from it isn't fully Sony'swhile Marathon is also technically an inherited IP, it's so old and niche that Sony feels more comfortable claiming the credit on the hypothetical successand Destiny 2 is almost 10 years old at this pointthey're probably worried about the staying power the brand has over the period of time it would take to develop a Destiny 3and finally, good old fashioned sunk cost
>>740865379Oh, I bet they want to now, when their asses are on the line.
>>740865681They wanted it sometime around Witchqueen and Lightfall, 2022-2023. Then they supposedly got more desperate when D2 started to crash after their tragically bad expansions.
>>740865248even then their numbers are all botted.>f2p week over>immediately cruises back to the 10k playercount number it conveniently had right beforeand when the f2p week was active, they bumped the bots up to 25k to make it seem like people were interested.
There's basically no way that this time next year Marathon exists.
>>740855548/thread
>>740864738>thinking there is any good part of BungleI mean when I hear they were making a Smash Bros MOBA, that sounds significantly more compelling then Marathon vs Arc Raiders.>It's fully on Sony and Hot Shit Hermen for not doing their due diligence in buying the fucking company.So many console companies copied the Xbox strategy and ate shit, can't lie, there's some schadenfreude. Facebook tried copying Xbox, lost all momentum they had on Quest. Sony tried copying Xbox, lost out on the PS5's potential.American business men don't count as people and should not be asked for business advice. Tfw a Japanese company trying to somewhat accommodate American tastes is more effective than an American business man catering to Americans. Hilarious.
>>740866138It will exist in the same way D1 and now D2 does, just keeping the servers running for whoever is left hoping they spend money on microtransactions to cover the costs of running them. The difference is that D1 and D2 are actual games. Marathon is setup for a death spiral:>player count decreases>game becomes less playable>repeat step 1It would take a complete and total overhaul of the game and years of full-time development to do it. But they have a GAAS model to feed into and already spent time doing multiple overhauls and tests to get where they are now.
>>740857882>Bungie is about to sink their company because they wanted to vibe develop and it failed spectacularlyWell deserved.
>>740865379That doesn't even make sense. Why in the fuck would Sony buy Bungie if not for Destiny?
>>740866626tbf, the acquisition of Bungie basically killed Halo under 343, so in a roundabout way it was worthwhile.
>>740855396>Marathon is dead guystwo more weeks right?
destiny is a dead game. they're only logged in out of spite.
Sony paid $4 billion for Bungie and they don't even get the rights to Halo? What.
>>740866626You don't know? Everyone heard early on why. They bought Bungie for their EXPERIENCE running Destiny as a successful Live Service game because Sony had like a dozen live-service games in development. Bungie was indirectly involved in the Concord fiasco and also that other MIA game that was supposed to be releasing at some point.Bungie also had a bunch of other projects in the early concept stages and Sony cancelled all of them except 2. They let Bungie keep Marathon because it was already decently into development. Sony took the other game and took a bite out of Bungie to turn into a different studio to develop it.
>>740866862So what will your cope be in Friday night xir?
>>740866754>two more weeks right?The last 24 hour peak for Marathon was 18k and that was during the long-awaited season 2 launch + a 30% sale + a FREE week.The next 24 hour peak is very likely going back down towards the 10k number, which means that the last hope for Marathon growth was an utter failure.
I like how everyone pretends Marathon flopped because of the artstyle even though everyone loved the CGI trailers. It's just there was no room for two extraction shooter hits on console, Arc Raiders bet them to the punch, and Marathon had confusing priorities in development (why funnel everyone to the worst map in the game???)
>>740867087The CGI trailers look way different than the actual game's style.
>>740866928Why would they? That was never on the cards. Activision didn't get the rights to Halo either.
>>740867087It didn't flop because of the art style, but it certainly did not help. It's a very striking style full of flash, but it doesn't translate into a world that people want to spend time in. It could work as a music video but that's about it.
>>740867087Everyone says Arc Raiders is casual though
i tried this dogshit gameits literally the most cookie cutter shit ever "kill bad guy (alien"who the fuck plays this nigger dogshit and honestly thinks they :are "experiencing modern gameplay"on top of this, its literally another fucking bungie game WHO HAS LITERALLY LERRNED NOTHING (CLEARLY WITH MARATHON) THAT HTEY STILL NEEE TO CHURN OUT LITERALLY "HALO 1.1"halo is fucking 25 years old and they couldnt think of one single improvement in 25 years? kys bungie faggot gharbage normiebait pos literally spirit bashing (who tf cares about the spirit) normie kike jew faggot shit
>>740867087Arc Raiders is also in the process of completely collapsing because the devs are swedish and need their mandatory 3 month long vacation every 4 months so they cancelled monthly updates for 1 update every 6 months.
>>740867371what causes this behaviour?
>>740867184Yep.>>740867272Agreed, the world building is schizophrenic, but I think people were hooked from "the vibe" even so. Genre choice and timing is the main killer here.>>740867291That makes it better suited for console, Marathon's intended demographic (as they lacked an extraction shooter on PlayStation). Seeing the Arc Raiders community it's hilarious how a garden variety interaction in Marathon gets report spammed, but again, that filters the average normie.
>>740855548Yet another case of fpbpAlways has been a second job game. Gameplay is just shooting aliens mindlessly. In Halo you get vehicles and actual funny quips and somefuckinghow the story is better (Halo 2 and Reach at least). Also the weapons were the weapons and not second job simulators. Destiny has like 4 vehicles and none of them are that fun except the tank and maybe heavy pike, it’s only been ironically funny, and the story is either 1/4th baked, just okay at best, or actual unironic queer woke nonsense. Only exotics are kinda fun when in Halo you have power weapons in most missions and like probably all maps and they fit like a glove. Where Halo had soul, Destiny has nothing.
>>740867087>even though everyone loved the CGI trailers??????????????????????????????????
>>740867548>Genre choiceno, not when other extraction shooters are doing better, so its more like the game sucks>and timing is the main killer here.what timing? Marathon released at a perfect time. No competition from other games, Arc was in freefall. Couldnt ask for a more perfect time to release the game. It will get worse as more games release in the upcoming months. But blaming genre and timing is cope, the game sucks. was the most aggresively mid game ive played.
>>740866954Oni 2?
>>740867787I was there when it was live.This dislike ratio =/= people hated it, and of those dislikes a majority is because it's an extraction shooter reveal.
>>740866626They thought they were buying Halo. Unironically.
>>740867846>not when other extraction shooters are doing betterYou mean Arc Raiders and Tarkov, meaning there's not much room for extraction shooter competition.>its more like the game sucksIt does, you can feel the mismanagement, the individual mechanics themselves aren't cursed but the game doesn't come together.>Marathon released at a perfect time.Hard no. Arc Raiders already secured the console extraction shooter audience which turned out to not be very big while Marathon was more expensive. It's only hope was releasing before Arc Raiders.
>>740866754More like 2 months ago
>>740866626>>740868043Microsoft bought ActiBlizz and CoD along with it, which made Sony tremble in their boots, so Sony panic-bought Bungie because the previous Bungie CEO told Sony leadership that they were THE liveservice studio and knew how to make or help make a rival to CoD and other liveservice games.
>>740866626Microsoft was buying big publishers and sony started panic buying studios that were in their spending range starting with Insomniac in 2019. They bought almost a dozen in the last 7 years. Bungie was a panic buy. I don't know if microsoft would have really bought them. >>740866718 but even if they did, modern Bungie wouldn't have been able to fix halo.
>>740866990is that when the next basketball game is? idk what you're talking about
>>740855396>Pl*yst*tion centric game Good riddanceMany wives boyfriends were called that night
>>740867946Pretty obviously botted
>>740868068>meaning there's not much room for extraction shooter competition.hunt, delta force, ABI. funny how those games are extraction shooters, which you claim cant compete with tarkov and arc, are somehow still doing better than marathon. maybe its not the genre but the fact that marathon is a bad game in of itself and if it was good, it wouldnt have lost 90% of its players.>Hard no. Arc Raiders already secured the console extraction shooter audience which turned out to not be very big while Marathon was more expensive. It's only hope was releasing before Arc Raiders.Hard yes. Arc was already collapsing when by the time March rolled around. people werent playing Arc like they were in winter. so this cope that everyone was already playing arc is dead wrong. people were leaving arc and those people were up for grabs.not to mention no other big game release that would compete with marathon. it had streamers playing for 3 whole weeks after launch. it wasnt timing or genre. the game flat out sucks and is ugly. thats why people didnt want to play it.
>>740867946you can't see youtube dislikes anymore anon that is a literal fake number
>>740866626Microsoft contracted them as saboteurs to waste as much of Sony's money as possible.
>Like Marathon>Never touched destiny>Have a quick look>Single millennial pajeet with a scarf in scenes that look worse than HL2>Comic con women in pauldrons>Keith David doing Keith DavidAm I missing something? Why are people complaining about Marathon art but ok with this?
>>740868648>that is a literal fake numberIt's not a fake number, it's just that it's based on people who have the extension. Some youtubers have done tests on their own videos and usually the number is somewhat correct within a 25-35% margin, assuming that it's not some extreme outlier video that's super controversial.
>>740867459playing a bad game.
>>740867548Arc Raiders community is actually like 70% pvp per the devs. But the biggest demographic likes a mix of PVE and PVP. Marathon is all ball-busting sweaty faggot PVP (nobody actually likes this) and the PVE sucks every testicle at a pride parade. Arc was (is) simply a much better game regardless of Marathon would have launched before it or not.Marathon was simply setup to fail because they didn't even know what they wanted to do. After having gone through numerous iterations and tests only to end up on the current turboslop simply because they were at a crossroads.>Cancel the 250m+ game (maybe 300m+) and confirm it was wasted money>No other games greenlit by Sony so there are just hundreds of employees doing D2 content>oops looks like Sony is fed up and D2 is discontinuing development likely explanation why long awaited D2 update was delayed many months and turned into the final update with a completely random display of content that was likely already close to finishing development>uh oh spaghettioor>ship it and hope for the best
>>740868815it's an estimation based on people who dislike videos so often that they go out of their way to download a video dislike browser extension.
>>740868902Really? I do that all the time and I've never sperged out like this.......
>>740867459shut up normie
>>740866954>They bought Bungie for their EXPERIENCE running Destiny as a successful Live Service gameTo be fair, they have been running Marathon really well. But the issue is that it's just not that appealing to a lot of people at its core, which they are also trying to fix.
>>740868951Yeah, so the number is still somewhat accurate in most cases. It's not just a fake number.
>>740869089if a game journalist on bluesky said marathon sold 2 million copies you'd call him a retard. yet that number is within your fake browser extension's estimation.
>>740867184Not really. The only big difference is how the colony weathering is depicted (which the trailer does better, with dust and sun-bleached buildings). But the characters look exactly the same.
Seeing the current numbers, it seems the new season and f2p made some players to buy the game but it seems the F2P totally failed so it's not like if the game goes to F2P it will have a big playerbase.
>>740868532>Everything I disagree with is botted
>>740869086WHy are people so stupid and tasteless?
>>740858869Thats borderlands 2
>>740857353I did. It's a great game. Very atmospheric.
>>740869086>they have been running Marathon really wellAre you clinically retarded? What "hardcore extraction shooter" showers people in free loot at the start of a wipe and gives them access to "free loot" mode? The game is run by monkeys.
>>740857353I'm having a blastBut I bought HD2 and AR over christmas and haven't opened either of those yet so...
>>740869506>I didShow proof of your purchase.
>>740869557well yeah you get loot to collect more loot that's how it goes
>>740869678So you are retarded.
>>740869629You vastly over-estimate how much people care what you think.
>>740869713you're the one playing the wrong game lmao
>>740864479Yea. Marvel gay slop seasons were bad too.
>>740869806>no proof provided
>>740869819The whole point of a wipe is to start off fresh and put everyone on the same starting level. Not give select people a bunch of free high-end gear and then give people access to an experimental free high-end gear mode.
>>740865656>the brand itself is poisonedThat's the biggest hurdle ahead of it, once everyone thinks your product is bad and/or forced slop it's a very uphill fight to earn new buyers, see Cyberpunk 2077, that god awful launch took it's legs out to the point it just lurched over thanks to an anime and all the dlc/patches but in the end at least the product itself is wanted. This?This has no sizable market.
>>740857353I uninstalled that slop after a couple of hours
>>740869974It shows how desperate they are to keep players.
>>740868543>hunt, delta force, ABIOkay I'll concede that point, I wasn't familiar enough with the space.>people werent playing Arc like they were in winter.People on console played Arc Raiders, it sucked cock, and don't want to play another extraction shooter. The problem is you assume Arc Raiders is notably better than Marathon, they're both the same ballpark. Whichever released first reaped the rewards, they were both 6/10s.>>740868648>>740868532Again, I was there for the livestream, people loved the CGI trailer and art style, they hated the genre choice.
>>740869086>servers shit themselves with a 40k peak>season 2 update was night mode on a single map, new shell and a few extra guns>cosmetics are ugly and disgusting overpricedWorth every penny of that $3.6bl
>>740869405Bungie fans are the most rabid cultist shiteaters in existence besides gacha gamers.
>>740870245>people loved the CGI trailer and art styleI know this is the angle you shills have been told to go with but it's bullshit.
>>740869974have you considered getting good?
>>740858612>we all just collectively decided we were done with the game after doing the final TFS raid togetheryou and everyone else.
>>740857353don't expect a massive player count drop. Anyone not interested in buying the game is long gone by now
>>740865309If you kept playing, you objectively showed you were OK with it.
>>740870570revisionismIt's easy to say it looks like shit now, but that was not the prevailing opinion prior to release. Post-hoc drama YouTube core.
>>740870930lmao nice try
Hear me out on this schizo theory I have: Sony (Japan) has lost faith in Sony (California) management and is sabotaging them to provide an excuse to save face while doing a huge reorganization that brings control of the gaming shit back to Japan.>it started after the Bungie acquisition that was the capstone of the big, retarded live service push that Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst bet at least $5b on>Concord happens and publicly embarrasses Sony, which really pisses off the Japanese bosses>Hulst gets demoted and the new Japanese boss (Nishita? Noshino?) for Sony gaming gets assigned>the goal is to not stop the ship from sinking, but save it just before it goes under so Sony has an excuse to totally reorganize the gaming division, take control away from California, and bring it back to Japan>Fairgame$ gets to continue living despite everyone with a brain knowing it's dead on arrival>Marathon gets to come out despite its many scandals, poor public perception, and nobody wanting an extraction game>Destiny is put to sleep while favoring Marathon, but there's nothing stopping Sony from making a Destiny 3 with a different team, or even with Bungie>GoW Laufey gets to come out, but they gamble it won't be bad enough to kill the franchise, but it would weaken it>Wolverine isn't messed with because it's a Marvel IP, but if it underperforms, the studio might get a smack on the backside>State of Play is clearly the weakest one of the summer shows, and confidence in Sony gaming drops>things deteriorate to the point that Sony Japan 'has to step in to restore faith and confidence in the Sony brand', and the restructuring happens around GTA6's launch, where the GTA6 news will drown out a lot of the bad pressidk bros, I could see it happening. Or maybe I'm a brainlet that's mindrotted from looking at too much Stellar Blade porn.
Discussing the state of Bungies is way more fun than discussing the actual game of marathon Like legitimately what the FUCK are they going to do now? I don't think Marathon is salvageable without HEAVY investment to basically redo the game into another more wide reaching commercial product but the amount of money that would take seems like it would be better investing into something else away from Marathons current stink.
>>740869557Yes, that was a terrible idea, but they've also completely reworked the progression, which has been pretty great. And I'm not just talking about season 2 changes, I'm also referring to the weekly fixes and balance adjustments.
>>740870930That's bullshit and you know it, everyone saying it looked good was a shill.
>>740855396>>740855548its becoming too expensive to deal with and most of the team behind it left a while ago. adding new content means they have to vault old content again. they want to move the fuck on and make another game but Destiny 2 players (who dont even fucking play it anymore) are crying.Marathon was a misstep and built off of a brand only old men care about so they made it the most unfriendly old man experience possible and with nothing for them to enjoy they just skipped it. they shouldve made a Destiny extraction shooter and it wouldve sold so fucking hard
>>740858796actually they literally were sued and when they were asked to provide evidence that Red War wasnt plagiarised they couldnt because it no longer exists.
>>740871063Too elaborate. The JP side is trying to sabotage Bungie, but this being intentional across the board would just be greifing the company.
>>740871167They could hire Trigger to make an anime about it and trick everyone into thinking it's good now.
>D2 breaking every record while Marathon is back to pre F2P weekend numbers alreadyI truly cant imagine there isn't someone at Sony who wants to publicly hang all of Bungo management at this point I swear id just reverse the decision of shutting the game down and have them shit out a new update ASAP
>>740871245>it would just be griefing the companyidk anon, Sony makes most of its gaming money like Valve does, with taking cuts from stuff that sells on their store. Their games don't make much money and don't draw a lot of people to the system. Letting the studio part fuck up over and over until Sony has an excuse to clean house seems possible without really harming the money coming in.
Nowadays I'm convinced that bungie pvp is some kind of misery ritual the elites need to do to be able to eat children. There is no other explenation why they force this shit so hard.
>>740868914You don't understand anything about looter shooters at all.People play them to SHOW OFF THEIR LOOT. You cannot do this in fagathon at all, no one can see it because it's all Roblox skittles troon messes.In tarkov you can deck your shit base and larp as a cheeki breeki. In arc you can play clown fancy dress. The fuck can you do in marathon?
>>740869974
Marathon is still down players despite today being Cryo release. That is not good news for Monday because Cryo usually sees a small weekend bump, that must mean a LOT of F2P players quit for it to overcome the Cryo surge.
>>740871167>Like legitimately what the FUCK are they going to do now?There's literally nothing they can do. Mass layoffs are happening next month. There's a good chance that 50% of the company will be gone.
>>740871549What's Cryo?
>>740871462I mean as dogshit as their exclusives were, them being of higher quality than Xbox is what kept them into the game. Not a good strat, even if they're burning money on Horizon it's more compelling than whatever Microsoft is doing.
>>740855396a fitting end for Bungie. being ripped apart by the destiny fanbase and marathon fanbase who each refuse to support the other game while also blaming the other games fans for their game flopping/shutting down. it's amazing how effectively Xbox was able to keep Bungie in check across 5 halo games only for Bungie to then kill themselves in just 3 releases
>>740871063That's bullshit but I believe it.
>>740871235Yeah sure, all the data somehow got deleted. They just don't want to go through the effort to port it to the current iteration of the engine their using.
>>740855396They really didn't Bungie's old management killed Destiny 2 (Lightfall did come out before Sony bought them, people forget this) There is a reason why MS decided to not re acquire them and that's because they caught wind of them working on Marathon and their other two projects while D2 was their sole source of income. Remember no matter what company would have ended up buying they wanted their independence which means sticking with their current board of directors and managers. What you are seeing now is Sony stepping in and finally assessing the true value of Bungie in order to allocate the needed resources for future projects or if they so see it let them go or find a more suitable offer down the line. >Inb4 le Sony shill Nah motherfuckers those fucks killed Japan Studio and Studio Liverpool. As far as I am concerned they could go bankrupt and I would feel nothing but relief since their IPs can finally be purchased. You'd just have to be completely ignorant to just point your finger at Sony however.
>Almost 200k on steam>Despite every single Destiny content creator telling people to LOG IN AND DO THE SLAM JAM and spamming the summer games fest chat with we want destiny 3 emotes, they couldn't even reach the peaks of final shape.Its over.The game is dead, just let it go already
>>740871634the endgame map. usually sees a small increase of players but marathon is down about 1k in players. i think that means the f2p loss is going to be massive on monday.
Are all these Monument of Triumph things to buy staying in the tower forever, or is this a limited time event?
>>740867087>even though everyone loved the CGI trailers....No? Everyone was like "WTF was that, it doesn't explain SHIT!"
>>740871634It's the end game sweat map. High risk, high reward. Has a minimum buy-in. It's like a PvP/E Destiny dungeon. Entirely pointless if you're a solo player because it requires a dedicated team to do it's late game content. If you do have friends, you can get the unique weapons of the game and fight a mediocre dungeon boss once you solve all 6 vaults. It can be fun. But playing with a shit on a stick can be fun with friends too. Your mileage my vary
>>740865254>Each player needs to spend around $200k for the game to break even right now excluding operating costs and continued development.Time to call Elon Musk up, maybe he can save the Marathon like he saved Path of Excrement 2.
>>740866626>Why in the fuck would Sony buy Bungie if not for Destiny?They bought them for their Halo experience, thinking they'd get Halo. Unfortunately for Sony: Halo is Microsoft's I.P. and Bungle doesn't have another shooter besides Destiny and Marathon (I guess TECHNICALLY "Pathways into Darkness" is a shooter...).Oni? Rockstar Owned.Gnop! ? Nobody played that, it was Mac Only.Marathon? Mac Only beyond 3: Infinity.Pathways? Mac only.Sony bought a Mac developer that had to be 'tard wrangled when Microslop bought them.This comes down to:>Sony didn't do their fucking due-diligence in a buyout.NO REFUNDS, BTW.
>>740872104That doesn't counter anything I said.Arguing people hated the CGI trailers where you can literally just read the comments to gauge the majority's reactions is disingenuous. It's dictionary revisionism.Game just sucks and killed their momentum, don't know what to say.
He's making a listChecking it twiceGonna rape you then report you to ICEBaro Claus is coming to town
>>740865819But anon its not over for another 30 minutes, its hitting 11k on a free week and was hitting 17k on peak hours.
>>740871795How does it feel to be robo-mogged by overwatch's new hero?
>>740871994You mean today. Marathon's F2P ends today. Cyro isn't keeping those players. Be serious now.
>>740872052it's the final update. what do you think anon.
>>740872520>Marathon's numbers are terrible >and the free week hasn't even ended yetfucking lmao
>>740872495>That doesn't counter anything I said.Except it does. Nobody was talking the art style. Everyone was talking about the lack of information.>BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNTER MY ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE HATED THE ART--Why on Earth would anyone be talking about the ART STYLE when NOTHING WAS SHOWN? Be serious.Even then and being generous to your "argument" the art style was negatively received. There was some "oh it would look cooler if it wasn't so Neon-y" comments, but everyone was talking about how the game had no information released. People didn't find out it was an extraction shooter or multiplayer only focus until AFTER the trailer released and a website update gave the actual information.
The mission design for Marathon is so ass, and their demonic obsession to put you in Dire Marsh (Day) every mission killed all player retention.How did no one point this out in the Alpha?
rise of iron>taken king>foreskin>shit>everything else
>>740872617>You mean today. Marathon's F2P ends today. Cyro isn't keeping those players. Be serious now.I know, I am saying that the amount of F2P players must be big because even the small Cryo bump cant offset the loss of the F2P players, so much that the game is still in the net negative so far in terms of player count. I am saying we will see the true count of how many players are gone come Monday because there will be no Cryo bump to mitigate the F2P loss. So we will see more true numbers of where the player count will settle.
>>740872610Nothing Thief's voice alone has more character than any hero Blizzard has put out lately. Happy for the gooners I guess. >I know this dance
>>740871795>There is a reason why MS decided to not re acquire them and that's because they caught wind of them>He thinks it's over Marathon and not that Bungle is a bunch of frat bros (well, formerly) that crunched at the literal eleventh hour to release a gold multiplayer lightning bottled 3 times for MicroSlop.No, they didn't want to 'tard wrangle Bungle again. They EVEN FUCKING TOLD them:>Why on Earth do you want to do an MMOFPS? Just do more Halo!And Bungle balked.
>>740872706I dont know thats why Im asking. Will the option to purchase all these cosmetics and stff go away after a month? I want to know if I should be grinding or I can take my time.
>>740872775Announcement trailer, top comments:> Everyone commenting on the visuals but the audio sounding incredible too. Bungie's audio&music department never fails to deliver > The Bungie art team never ceases to amaze me. Reveal trailer, top comment:> regardless of how the game itself turns out, i'm glad we got this piece of pure art from it.You're a drama starved revisionist. The game didn't fail because of its art style. You have an agenda that only requires one to scroll down directly below the video to disprove. Game sucks, but this was not the weakest link.
>>740855548/threadFlies flock to shit, the game peaked at fucking Destiny 1 and everyone that touched the steaming pile of shit that is Destiny 2 is a fucking retard with no standards whatsoever.
>>740857419>>740857720>>740858869Am I in bizzaro world? I swear before all this Marathon shit came out all the things people say about Marathon was being said about Destiny.
>>740871063>japs being cutthroat bastardsyeah i’d believe it
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2 again?Because it was an unsustainable game impossible to get into for new and returning players. The game was one of the worst managed games I've ever seen.
I bought Marathon and I have 2 expectations from it.>Scenario 1>Because the game is doing poorly, Bungie cannot get away with their kikery like "we had to cut content because we were releasing too much content" So they actually try this time and turn Marathon into a pve game with enough content to make it funI wish this is what happens since they probably thought they were going to keep their destiny goys that always buy shit even if they hate the game>Scenario 2>Marathon is such a flop that they close down the server and bungie dies>The absolute state of playI kinda dont mind this either since i only payed 20 dollars for it and so far I have moderate fun.
>>740855396why dont they stay playing Destiny?
>>740855396How many of those player were still giving Sony money?
>>740873447I think the game is alright, Dire Marsh Night was consistently fun, but it's not live service material. Really should've made a singleplayer nu-Marathon instead.
>>740873161It's not going away I hate the perception this whole dumb as fuck drama has created. Destiny 2 isn't dying anytime soon, nor Bungie is pulling the plug on it entirely. They are simply going to stop developing new expansions or seasons for it. They can still go back and re introduce old content like they did with this update. No one knew BA weapons were going to make a comeback and be revamped.
>>740872794You can do most Dire Marsh contracts at night.
>>740873490Some people just have 1 game to "grind and play". For example some people have cowodudy, others have fifa and so on. Destiny is designed to be fun enough that you like how the shooting feels and the pretty graphics and artstyle captures you but not fun enough where you feel like you are satisfied and move on, so its basically a hamster wheel were you do seasonal farms and the current expansion and gear up to do raids to get more cool shit but it kinda is a timesink. The game is good imo but it deserves a better developer than bungie, one that actually cares about having a good product (obviously the main goal would be to make money)
>>740873598Yeah that is kinda why ive been having fun. Its not liveservice, fomo shit and since the cosmetics are so ugly and the battlepass is awful it kinda works for me as a game without microtransactions which boosts its fun factor.
>>740873447They are clearly trying to go for Scenario 1, but the new enemies in night Dire Marsh (big tick and turret that shoots slow homing balls) aren't giving me much hope in future enemies.
>>740873734Dire Marsh Night is good for stealth PvP and looting, but it's not great for missions due to the exfil requirements unless you have your routes well memorized imo
>>740873715>Game build around live service loosing its live serviceit's dead, Jim.
>>740874078It's better for contracts simply because it has less players.
>>740873598>I think the game is alrightThis is the main issue with the game. It's just "alright" in a sea of other shooting games where everyone already has their main game. No one is gonna abandon shit like CS/CoD/Apex Legends/Tarkov/Arc Raiders/whatever to go play a game that's just alright. Bungie needed to make something exceptional, considering this and considering their 30 year experience with FPS games.
game is just mid. make it free and i’ll give a shit. next time take 3 dicks.
>>740874150Look man I know trolling and being a contrarian is a thing in this board but people still play destiny 1 to this day. I think Destiny 2 will be just fine for the foreseeable future.
>>740873378anons on /v/ shit on games they dont play. who knew.
>>740871063I'd imagine if you come up with stupid, shit theories you would first do the least amount of legwork to see how the company is run, but then you would not come up with these idiot fantasies so.
>>740874586Then how is the company run, anon?
>>740864805Because they can't. Extraction shooters are niche, so they either focus on that niche and serve a small audience well, or they water it down in an attempt to appeal to a larger audience, at which point there are far better alternatives out there for said audience. No-one wants to play a game that tries to appeal to everyone, because such a game doesn't have an identity of its own. And if there were ever the potential for Bungie to prove me wrong and release an absolute banger that shattered records, they'd already have done so. There's simply no way for Marathon to grow a large-enough player base for the game to be considered a success at this point
>>740864940I replayed Marathon when the trilogy was released for free on Steam. The first game is great, though 2 and 3 get increasingly bad
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2 again?because those people hadn't played for 6 months
>>740871234which is why they just added a shit ton of new content?
>>740855914This shows that it's still capable of those numbers if you don't treat the player like shit and bother making good decisions. A lot of people came back for both Edge and Renegades but left just as quickly because the game reached a state of atrocious monotony and they refused to budge and revert the changes until two days ago. A new Destiny game would 100% make bank and pull in a ton of players.
>>740874010They are used to never making new enemies. They got lazy with destiny were the fanbase begged them for a new enemy faction only for them to ignore them. Now they cannot make new enemies anymore.
>>740875525lets not forget that destiny 2 was practically dead before it went f2p and they left the retarded blizzard launcher for steam. Their track record show they can salvage games but if it becomes succesful after that then they will get super lazy.
>>740875954>It's been a Star Wars expansion for 6 months>The meta in an FPS game was to make it a third person action game >Praxic Blade + Sword Storm goes brrr>Invalidate most gear before the new expansion>Add a stupid portal interface instead of the in-game map that felt like charting a course to space flight >Why are player counts low?>End development >Allow people to choose whatever seasonal meta they want>Use whatever you want>Return the old map>Player counts reaching yearly highsBungie would choke on their own breath given a light breeze. They're retards.
>>740871234>Marathon was a misstep and built off of a brand only old men care about so they made it the most unfriendly old man experience possible and with nothing for them to enjoy they just skipped itmarathan catered to old men, so they made the most appealing game to old men they could, then all the old men didn't buy it? idgi
>>740855396I'm still just baffled how Sony's very first action wasn't telling Bungie to get started on a next gen Destiny game.
Look I like Destiny and all. But the whole "Look theres 200k people on!" shit isnt going to change anything. You showing up for a few days for the game's funeral isnt what developers and publishers want to see. They want purchases and consistency. The game wouldnt be shutting down if people were buying and playing it enough before the end.
>>740876796>lets not forget that destiny 2 was practically dead before it went f2pNo it fucking wasn't. Forsaken was one of the most played expansions in it's history. PC is only 1/3rd of the Destiny player base.
>>740860191Destiny narratively ended with the tranny cyberpunk knock offs in faggot hologram city full of empty bullshit written by a fat gay nigger
>>740877206Destiny 2 even during content lulls has more players than Marathon. We dont have numbers to say whether or not it was profitable each year. But what we can see is that Destiny was intentionally sunset in order to make way for Marathon. They had gambled on Marathon being widely accepted and that Destiny 2 players would simply migrate to it for being 'close enough.' But neither happened and now Bungie will probably go under.
>>740877206if only they had joined the discord server instead...
>>740877296and that's a good thing
>>740877206>But the whole "Look theres 200k people on!" shit isnt going to change anythingIt's not going to change anything, but it's funny to rub salt into the wound of both Bungie and Sony. They literally bet on the wrong horse, because Destiny has infinitely more potential to make money than Marathon has.
>>740877568The weird thing is they seem to have made that bet out of pure spite as well. Like they are angry that players didn't want to play Marathon and wanted more Destiny.
marathon still sucks ass, fuck off shills no one wants to play your dead humiliation ritual
>>740877296How dare you insult this tall beautiful non-binary Silver Surfer?
>>740878262>Green, stringy stuff...
>>740877206Who cares what developers and publishers want to see? I want to see marathon RAPED
>>740878262I'm sure the person who designed this character went on to make all the Marathon character designs too, they are all disgusting to look at
>>740874169>Add night map>Remove thermal scopes Bravo bungle. Tarkov managed this problem 5 years ago
>a lot of people showed up to Bungie's funeralDid did some good things before joining the mentally ill revolution.
>>740878262im glad i stopped playing around the first picosecond the girlboss cabal showed up
>>740877656From Sony's end it's pretty clear: Marathon has content that was still mid-development to rollout, and Destiny 2 didn't. If that were their thought process, then they're just waiting to get every "season" out to completely shitcan Bungie as a whole.
Why does it say I still own the game now that the free weekend is up?
>>740876929What boggles my mind is how often people let Renegades slide. If fucking putting star wars in your game isn't a sign for the players to jump ship then Destiny fans simply got what they deserved. The praxis blade was cool and all but I guarantee that shit was built on the sword rework they had teased for like the past 3 years. >B-But it will be tastefully done, and besides Star Wars isn't being shoehorned!! Literally after Renegades came out. Disney announced about 3 other star wars collab.
>>740878809to boost engagement so sony can lie to investors about how well the game is doing
>>740878394>>740878574>The most powerful subclass in the game is bisexuality UwU>Why pick a standard light or dark class?>Use the bisexual prismatic class>You can use everything all at once AND go super Saiyan faggot mode>This is the Final Shape Bungie wanted Happy pride month anons.
>We want the Destiny audience>So we killed Destiny to make them all go play (not Destiny)Corposuit logic is completely alien to me.
>>740878809They made the actual game temporarily free instead of creating a separate trial version. You'll notice the deluxe edition is discounted despite you not owning the game.
>>740873080lol, lmao
>>740873329>the game peaked at fucking Destiny 1Imagine parts of your multiplayer game being "lost media" before the servers shut down. That's Destiny 2. The 1960s Doctor Who of video games.
I'm kinda on the edge of getting this game, but the low player base is not a good look. At the same time though, I feel like the niche aspect of the game makes it reddit repellent.
>>740879928Used copy on PlayStation, or wait until it inevitably gets a thick discount or f2p business strategy shift.I will say if you want a more heartless extraction shooter where teaming basically doesn't happen, then sure. The weakest aspect is just the quests are really convoluted and all funnel into the same PvP hotspots.
>>740879884My friend has been playing D1 to D2 to understand the franchise. My average responses to his D2 questions often go:>"Oh, that's just gone.">"Here's a YouTube video of what is no longer in the game.">"Oh that? That's no longer available."
>>740855396>Why did Sony shut down a game nobody was playing until they were told baby couldn't have his bottle anymore and actively burned money and never made any?Its a real sticky wicket this one lads.
tomorrow will be juicy
>>740880247This franchise also loves to jerk off to Cayde-6. But if you're starting with D2, all of his interactions are basically vaulted. You can only play the Forsaken flashback when he dies. Then when he returns and dies in Final Shape. Their most beloved character is someone you can't even get to know if you're just starting. I laughed my dick off seeing they dedicated a room to him in Renegades.
>>740867924Project Gummy Bears.
Marathon below 10k while free to play btw
>>740881069BungieGODs….We are so back
>>740855396its at 1,1m now.
>>740883513wonder what Sony's executives are thinking
Sold worse than Saros
>>740886125>kojangles went from being one of THE console sellers to getting mogged by that goblins game
I think destiny 2 pvp is some of the worst pvp I have ever experienced in my 30 years of playing video games. You literally feel bad when you get kills and get mad every time you die. Terrible pvp, the devs should be shot in the head for such trash.
>>740886125The chart is tracking PS5 copies sold, and Saaros was a PS5 exclusive. It's not surprising that it outsold Marathon, especially since Marathon's lead platform ended up being PC.But it's still funny how totally dire these numbers all are.
>>740886125I literally never see people talking about yotei.
>>740885974"None of these people will be here a week from now which is why we shut the game down in the first place. Its been dead and unprofitable for years."
>>740885974How many lambos, hookers and blow they can get by making this a tax deductible
>>740887656
>>740886125Games were selling in the millions in the fucking Atari 2600 days. The industry is fucked
>>740887851my bro wasn't buying lambos, he was buying classic cars.
>>740886125Am I looking at a chart of PlayStation 5 or the fucking Magnavox Odyssey? What the fuck are those numbers? It's abysmal software sales
>>740855396they didn'tthis is just marketing, manipulating the crowd to rally behind a game that just a couple of weeks ago everybody was shitting on, plus they'll look like they listened to the community when they inevitably announce more content for it0 chance sony views marathon as profitable long term
>>740888046>or the fucking Magnavox OdysseyGot a big laugh out of me, lmao.
>>740855396ceo stole 66% of the studio budgetthe odds of bungie recouping that money is astronomically low
>>740855396Destiny 2 is in a rough spot where the onboarding is horrible and the game just expects you to know and care about all the events you don't know about because they removed half the game.It really needs a new game to actually get new players
>160k people on for 1 day for an update!>nobody buys anything>everybody kind of hates the game which is why there are no players most of the time>wondering why it's on hiatusBungie need an army of people to barely make enough revenue to escape bankruptcy year over year.If destiny was so profitable and surefire they wouldn't have been whoring themselves out padding their metrics for publisher funding deals to patch the ship. They wouldn't be owned by Sony now if Destiny was the path forward.
>>740888961>Destiny 2 is in a rough spot where the onboardingWhat onboarding? there is none. 90% of new players trying out the game quit in the first 20mins due to being stuck in the lobby or starting a random fucking expansion quest.
>>740889907>>160k people on for 1 day for an update!>>nobody buys anythingd2 has been top 2 in revenue globally on steam since the patch.In comparison maratroon the highest it ever reached was 15th globally with s2 launch. >>everybody kind of hates the game which is why there are no players most of the timeWhich is why everyone was hoping bungie would make a d3, like it or not destiny got a pretty unique space in the multiplayer genre. D2 having no tutorial hurt its lifespan. >wondering why it's on hiatuslongest content drought in the history of the game6years since going f2p and no tutorial, every new player got lost in the menus or travelled to a random planet did some shooting and quit. Or they picked a random expansion starter quest and got lost in the sauce and quit.Bungie is a mess, but prioritizing marathon over destiny is a mistake. Theres more money to be had in delivering a good destiny game over committing to marathon.
>>740855873>. The actual mistake was not making Destiny 3nobody including devs wants 20 fucking years of the exact same game reskinned dipshitI swtg destinyfags have the most unfathombly crippling autism its unreal
>>740890390>nobody including devsIf it means the difference between getting a paycheck or not, the devs will make whatever you tell them to make.
Dont care, im having fun.
marathon is a vastly better game than destiny
>>740890390No actual destinyfag is asking for D3.
>>740855396>Why did Sony kill Destiny 2 again? It just shattered all its previous recordsWell, I'm sure it went something like this:>Thing A makes 2x as much money as Thing B>But Thing A costs 10x as much as Thing B to run and has no future>We should kill Thing A
>>740889907>we're spending millions on this game and not making a return>let's spend billions on an IP with even less interest!>brilliant!
>>740855396It's just coping retardsDestkny doesn't get that many players
>>740890662Can't tell if he's talking about destiny or marathon.
>>740890965xe's a company fanboy, but that specific post is marathon.
>>740855396Pete Parsons fucked destiny to inflate bungie’s perceived value to Sony by taking talent off destiny to start side projects that were doomed to fail This resulted in lightfall, a pretty bad expansion that under performed and eventual layoffs Final shape was a decent expansion but people still didn’t come back after lightfall and thus more layoffs After two rounds of layoffs destiny couldn’t reliably release content In short, fuck Pete
>>740855396because 90% of them are going to stop playing D2 in two weeks after realizing the content is still shit.
>>740890523The decision was made before marathon even launched. >The decision to actually kill the game was not made after Edge of Fate or something that far back. It was earlier this year, as previously reported. https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/05/28/new-info-on-destiny-2-alarm-bells-marathons-role-and-destiny-infinity-pitch/
>>740890965Does it matter? Writing an email to a billion dollar company like they're Santa Clause makes you a certified retarded cuckold. Go buy the entire Eververse store if you're that desperate to get fucked by Bungie.
>>740890269D2 has way more issues than just lacking a new player experience and Bungie have never shown the ability to right themselves in this or any number of ways. My point is that the studio has had 10+ years to find a way to stop this boom bust cycle of monetizing content updates and in that timespan all that's come of it is them taking the early goldmine then growing the company to unsustainable levels. Bungie are still going to make a PvE looter shooter with new IP and more efficient designs but it can't be on 1 fucking game until the way they operate changes to make financial sense. We can consider marathon as the waiting room before the next bungie vidya it's obvious not even they want to work on that game if it manages to survive it will be the dev onboarding project permanently on the backburner. There's no reason a studio as influential as this the creators of Halo and Destiny can't find half of the success or stability of fucking Genshin Impact or Apex Legends while developing actual games.
>>740891870I think they're going to face mass layoffs, and that they don't have the talent to make a new AAAA monster game anymore. Chris's original vision of a much more casual friendly game, where the casuals only sometimes got drafted into raids, looked a lot more appealing than this shit.
>>740891374>Trans flag>Writing emails to companies like they're friendsMental illness is palpable.
>>740892227I believe the theory that he's just an extremely committed undercover troll.
>>740892304Larping as a troon on the gayest safe space gaming forum seems just as retarded.
>>740890662>(no reply)
>>740855548based postsomehow it still sucks less than maraflop though
>>740890390It was a mistake not making Destiny 3 in 2020 before they had to delete half of Destiny 2 to keep adding shit.
>>740892640>larping as a troonI think of it like whenever characters in the Walking Dead have to cover themselves in blood, guts, shit, and piss so the zombies can't pick them out of the crowd. You don't like doing it, but it's the only way to blend in.
>log in>they got rid of the portalThank you Jesus
There's no way Bungie won't update D2 and abandon Marathon after seeing these numbersWe are so fucking back
>>740892857Lmao>"Mom, Dad, I know you caught me sucking dick at the gay club. But, it was just to blend in." If they're account age is over a year, ain't no way it's a bit. That's just a faggot with mental illness. Even actors get paid for playing a role? How are they getting their rocks off with that cringe?
>>740893591It being a real person who believes those opinions is the more likely case, yeah. I just think it's funnier to imagine it as a really committed shitposter.
>>740893232No. I don't want them to add more retarded ideas to D2. Just keep a skeleton crew on bugfixing.
just fucking re-release destiny 1 on pc
>>740893232>>740894937Why is this gun a waifu?Where's my Sunshot thot in hot pants or Goth Graviton Lance Mommy
>>740895434If we did that then there would be less players on marathon
>>740855396I didn't care for it but I still heard people talking about it and playing it. How does it even make sense economically for them to cancel it with so many players?
>>740895749Only answer is that Sony paid way too much for Bungie and Bungie is spending way too much on useless employees and isn't actually giving that profit to Sony
>>740895434That would be over-delivery!
>>740887941There were also significantly less games, nowadays you have shitloads of things to play, even free games take up a lot of peoples gaming time
>>740888961>Onboarding Wouldn't be a problem if it was fun out of the gate, and players would seek to optimize progression if they became interested enough. Saying onboarding is like equating it to a job, which to be fair, the game is
>>740895867I thought I remembered years ago that Sony expected to get all the Bungie talent but everyone left Bungie anyway.
>>740855548I still can't believe people still play destiny2 after the devs removed planets, made everyone's weapons they collected worthless over time and somehow made the menus even more shit.
>>740857353It convinced two of my friends to get it.The onboarding is so dogshit for new players if they have a friend to guide them theyre more likely to keep playing turns out.I can't imagine many randoms will stick with it.
>>740897038>It convinced two of my friends to get it.That's sad. But I hope they enjoy their DEAD GAME. <3
>>740858052They had a PVE mode this season and all it did was let everyone speedrun night marah quests and farm anomaly/complexIf anything it made "sweats" even stronger cause a week in they've got a bunch of golds before cryo even opens.
>>740857774>Destiny 3 would have done extremely wellI'm sure any devs that gave a shit left Bungie awhile back when Sony was turning them into a GaaS farm for other studios that have all released bombs or were disbanded.
>>740897702I'll never understand hardcore Destiny bros. They act like these devs were putting crazy updates full of passion like they're Valve devs or some shit. Where was this brilliance... ever? The couldn't commit to this game even when they were handed a pandemic that locked everyone inside and juiced their numbers.
>>740855396Isn't this the game that takes content away from the expansion packs you paid for
>>740890523>But Thing A costs 10x as much as Thing B to run and has no futureThis is absolute fucking nonsense.
>>740898391>Destiny 2 has no future>the farewell patch draws numbers almost 10x Marathon, which was doing its big f2p week promotion>on PC, which is D2's weakest platform and Marathon's strongest>Destiny is the franchise that has no futureMaybe you're replying to an actual Sony executive.
>>740898082I do wonder how Destiny would have been if the original was literally just an FPS MMO, rather than this weird Borderlands w/ Raids & PVP queues on the side thing they got going on.
>>740898564>Believe in the future of Destiny.>They released a Star Wars expansion as the second entry into their new narrative arc.
>>740856563>thats not what killed it, while i agree it sucks, for the most part no one gave a shit about old content.It is what killed it. They deleted the entire 20 hour onboarding flow for new plays. Effectively they made the game impenetrable for people who are new. So they no longer had an ability to grow their player base, just appeal to existing players. It is insane it did as well as it did after vaulting the entire fucking campaign and onboarding user content.
>>740898564Autists were arranging to log-in on update day out of protest against Sony. People on Marathon were actually playing Marathon.
Im gay
>>740873378destinyfags shit on destiny the hardest, lots of destinyfags.
>>740899617That was after Sony told them 'You can't have D3,' though.>>740900063People logged into Marathon just to log into Marathon, too. The difference is people are actually interested in Destiny, which is why D2 had 10x Marathon's numbers that day.
>>740855396They have halo now, they don't need them
>>740855396Does this quality as a humilliation ritual?
>>740902334>People logged into Marathon just to log into Marathon, tooIf you do that for Marathon it's to grab your free daily shop items from the Factions you've upgraded enough. There's no reason to leave the game 'open' in the background.
>>740902443Some of the lolcows on the Marathon forums left the game running to own the chuds, but that's just a tiny, insignificant number of people. Still happened, though.
>>740855548fpbpdestiny peaked at forsakenanything after is cringe tranny slopanyone on /v/ who says destiny is better than marathon are malding troons who can't let go of their safe space version of WoW
>>740855396I'm glad Destiny died. Vaulting is the most cancerous thing to ever happen to gaming. And yes, that includes gachas and lootboxes. The fact that Bungie was able to mind break people into being okay with vaulting is actually mind-blowing imo. It's beyond cuckoldry. The developers are LITERALLY taking the content you PAID for out of the game. You straight up can't even play any of the og content from the game, even if you paid for it.
>>740900063There's 122k people logged on right now just on Steam playing the game. Fucking retarded ass shill.
>>740855396Bungie struggled to make content and the content they did make and awful and gay. To make things worse they knowingly made it awful and gay.
>>740855548That’s what happens when you combine lost media, microtransactions, and DEI(gay) into a single product. A product they struggled to make with 1000+ employees.
The most reddit game of all time
>>740902968>The fact that Bungie was able to mind break people into being okay with vaulting is actually mind-blowing imo.They softened the blow by announcing the next 2 dlc after Beyond Light but yeah it was crazy then and its crazy now. The content vaulting permanently damaged the game. It made it impossible to develop the player base.
>>740903556I can't even tell which one you're talking about
>free week only raised the CCU by 3k playersholy shit dude
>>740904120It's hard to tell the exact benefit of the free week because it started with the release of s2. The free week peak was a tiny bit over 40k, which was about 3.5x the normal daily peaks it was getting before S2.
>>740904571you're right, those 3k players could just be returnees for season 2its completely possible that they didnt get a single sale from that free week
>>740905580The best indicator for new players is probably Marathon's performance on the Steam Top Sellers list, where it only managed to get to #5 (US) I think, and quickly gave up that position and never retained it.I'd guess maybe a few hundred thousand (300k or so) across all platforms for new sales. It didn't seem like the needle moved at all.
>>740855396it wasnotmakingenough moneyso they made a new game that is easier to monetize, now buy the goddamn game you fucking cattle.
>>740905823do you have anything to back that up
>>740905918#1: That's economic terror#2: That's economic terror
>>740905918NTA, but Sony has said a few times that Destiny 2's performance is what they need it to be.Bungie's just too expensive. Too many devs in Seattle and the content takes too long to make with their custom engine.>>740906014It's all in the numbers.
>>740905823How is Marathon easier to monetize than Destiny?
>>740906060Did they try firing their gay friends and bringing in competent people?
>>740905823>easier to monetize>release a game that no one wants to play let alone spend money inSmart
>Destiny was total dogshit and destroyed my faith in Bungie>800k players>Marathon is the first Bungie game since Halo 3 (maybe Reach depending on how I feel about it this week) that I think is genuinely great>40k players at bestIt is what it is
>>740906219Sony doesn't have the will to do anything that based. It'll be easier for them to just close the studio, keep the IPs, and write most of the $3.6b off.Now, if Sony surprised everyone and sold Bungie to Tencent.. yeah, those ruthless chinamen would have no problem giving those woke idiots the boot.
>>740855873Bungie should just make cool games with cool campaigns again. Not be locked into Destiny forever nor justify pouring everything into a middling Tarkov clone.
>>740906352You having shit taste. Congratulations on the introspection.
>>740855396Destiny deserved to die. The main annoyance is people keep trying to say>oh its the upper management not the devs faultIt is at least partially the devs fault, theyre genuinely shitty people. Upper management managed to steal fucking 3.6 billion from Sony.
>>740855914it was still doing more than marathon lol
>>740855396there were 1.1m players for launch of d2 I think. the game was so fucking bad for most of its tenure but especially the first year. so bad to the point that Bungie stopped publishing player numbers. it’s a shame; I played the D1 beta and all of D1 and played D2 for launch, forsaken, and then finally witch queen. I checked on it from time to time but there was never a point where I thought D2 was good. they really could have made a perennial cash cow with this game but their monumental greed and staffing choices made sure it would never be so. people tend to look at spore for wasted potential but I would put D2 up there also
>>740906581What was wrong with the first year of D2?
>>740906727Nothing to do.
>>740906727Holy shit where do I beginNo special weaponsNo content Everything was depowered to shitYou spent the entire time scrounging for ammo
Would this game have been a success if Arc Raiders never existed?
>>740907946Probably not. From what people say ARC is a lot more lenient and has a larger pve aspect to it. Extraction shooters are always going to have to get over the hurdle that not a whole lot of people like idea of permanently losing something they earned and enjoyed playing with.
>>740908537>Oh nigger, my scrimblos!
>>740908805Right, and that's why trying to market such a niche genre to normies was/is/will continue to be very costly and stupid.
>>740907946Arc Raiders is down to ~40k players as well. Still a lot more than Marathon obviously but the truth is most people/gamers just aren't interested in extraction shooters. Tarkov is an exception because it crosses over into the Milsim shooter side of things, which used to be dominated by Arma.
>>740873378people who played destiny wouldn't talk about it here because they actually had friends to talk to.
>>740906727after you finished the red war campaign, there was NOTHING else to do. you still had "levels" instead of an ilvl system they have now. I do not miss needing ammo for primaries.
>>740855396It only shattered records specifically because people know it's going to die and want to get some last minute games in. If they decided to keep it going then the player count would plummet since it's not a big deal anymore
ALL THAT AWAITS MARASISSIES NOW IS THE GIFT OF RAPETHE SODOMY, BEYOND YOUR PLAYER COUNTS.
>>740907946Marathon lacks that whacky fun factor. That's the hard truth. Destiny will always mog Marathon because it is fun. You can create millions of explosions that tickle the brain and have a "fuck you" super button. You are an immortal demigod kicking ass. Marathon is the complete opposite of Destiny. Shooting lots of things? You're going to get third partied from the noise. You sneak around. Don't make a lot of noise. Take fights where you have a ton of advantage. Who are you in Marathon? A corporate slave like the devs. There is no hope in this universe. Hell, any progress you make is reset in 3 months. It's an endless treadmill. Maybe they improved the game but I couldn't give a shit. They sunset for the season wipe and haven't even announced a new end game map or boss. So, I have no reason to go back.
>>740906581>there was never a point where I thought D2 was goodExactly how I feel. There are periods of moderate entertainment but at no point could you say the game was objectively good.
>>740855396Bungie is just lazy. Destiny barely had content but they had to keep updating and adding stuff whereas if they had that player base in marathon they'd essentially have 1 hour of work a week since its an extraction shooter. They could add one map and do nothing for a year in their ideal scenario whereas destiny it would not fly.
Fuck I wish Marathon was more like Destiny then maybe I would actually play it. The art direction is way too abstract and there’s too much color vomit, the bloom is overdone, movement feels janky. Just look at how much better the left is than the right.
>>740855396why the fuck are so many people playing it now? is it just a last hurrah? the game is getting cancelled, what's the point?
>>740914860Bungie are PR manipulating masters.Marathon flopped so they announce destiny is dead and that's itNow everyone shows love to destiny and sony hesitates with destroying bungieIts like self harming to get love and attention from normies but for a video game company lol. Destiny 3 is in development screenshot this. Oh also to hopefully get destiny dumbasses in marathon since d2 is dead
>>740855873why would they ever make destiny 3? a d2 expansion is 1 open world zone, 1 strike, 1 raid, for $60. destiny 3 would need to have 6 open world zones, 10 strikes, 2 raids for the same price. d2 goycattle made d3 unprofitable
>>740865769That's already way too late. Starting dev in/2022-23 means that even then D3 would have been like 2028. A serious studio with a working pipeline and release cadence would have started D3 development about a year after 2 came out, then had 2 concurrent teams. One managing D2 post release content and one devving D3. D3 should have released in 2023 at the latest.
>>740914860Destiny 2 got it's "final update" aka End of Content. People are jumping into it as a protest against it. See >>740915007, Marathon is a disaster trashfire and Bungie needs SOMETHING. Ironically the update is great since you can actually level up by doing anything instead of being forced to run Portal over and over again. However it's still shit since new players are just thrown into the blender and the F2P experience is still bad, just not as bad as it was due to the final update.
>>740914771I don't see where the budget went in Marathon, aside maybe in the map design.Also doesn't run well but that's probably the limits of their engine, I remember D2 having lots of corridors and pretty skyboxes.
>>740915216Destiny was stuck in a weird situation though. Most players (and staff iirc) did not want a Destiny 3. What they wanted was a perma live service game. Look at Warframe for an example, or World of Warcraft. There is no Warframe 2, and there never will be. They will be building upon that game for years and years to come. If they ever make a D3, I would be interested to see it use a monthly sub model or better monetization to make the game more profitable.
>>740916232>Destiny was stuck in a weird situation though. Most players (and staff iirc) did not want a Destiny 3.Every fan I've ever heard has been asking for a new Destiny since Beyond Light. When they came out and said why they were sunsetting shit the overwhelming response was "why not just make a new game retards?"
