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Cloti or Clerith
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>>740876352
Your shipping mental illnesss should be a bannable ofense.
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>>740876352
Aerith is mai waifu but I am not deranged so obviously I know Tifa is the one Cloud ends up with.
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Aerith is the heroine of the game
Tifa is the love interest
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If Cloti was food it would be wet, stale rice cakes
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>>740876352
Aerti
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>>740876352
Tifa is an plagiarized eroge cheap whore >>740876781 shoved into ff7 universe by the latter half of 1996 and turns into an overly whitewashed frankenstein in Oct96,
exists for no other purpose than being an irrelevant obscene gag material & nasty secondhand fap material for illiterate cucks. >>740875475
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>>740877547
Based
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>>740876352
I only care about Yuffie and Red XIII.

Red is my childhood self insert and Yuffie my waifu
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>>740876352
Aerith is dead in part 3 so doesn't Tifa win? Unless they bring her back?
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>>740876352
FF7 lies heavily on Cloud trying to find an identity, between escaping the identity he tried to copy from Zack, and his relation to Sephiroth, by the end of the game he finally understands he's neither. This means Aerith is a maternal figure almost, from which his fake identity spawned after he escaped to the church that day, and from which he must emancipate himself in order to grow.
Tifa, then, is the obvious and only answer, as she cared for the actual Cloud, the kid Cloud he had to rescue from the jaws of amnesia, in order to grow up and find out what he thinks of himself.
Also, huge tits.
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>>740877547
based as f
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>>740877649
Anon, the entire game is plagiarized from Gundam, your point isn't really interesting or relevant.
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>>740876352
Aerith won. And it's not shipping, it's just the plot.
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>>740876352
Choosing Tifa means a Cloud fixated on the past he never achieved.
Choosing Aerith means choosing the real imperfect Cloud.
Simple as.
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>>740876352
me and yuffie
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>>740879736
>Aerith won
The Zackbowl, sure, but not Cloud. And it's not shipping, it's just the plot.
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>>740876352
>cute girl who ignored you as children until you promised to be her hero and falls madly in love with you when you put an act for her
vs
>cute girl who includes you and tells you to stop acting like someone else because she wants the real you
Tough choice
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>>740880173
Your ship bias is blinding you, the OG ended with Aerith in love with Cloud and Cloud wanting to reunite with her because he loves her. The sequels expanded on that.
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>>740880305
Your ship bias is blinding you, the OG ended with Aerith dead, and Cloud with Tifa because she was there for him. I never played any sequels because they are cheap cashgrabs.
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>>740879857
>Cloud fixated on the past he never achieved
He stopped Sephiroth at Nibelheim though which is arguably the reason Tifa is alive
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>>740876352
Aerith
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>>740880568
Cloud wanted to be special hierarchically.
He wanted to be famous, liked by everyone, to not have been the excluded kid, to be the cool hero that gets the popular girl.
Being with Tifa is a Cloud fixated on that, instead of accepting it's ok to not have those things, it's ok to be awkward, bad at socializing, and it's okay to make fun of yourself a bit. Aerith represents that.
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>>740880528
The OG Cloud was happy because he delusionally thought he could simply meet her again if he found the promised land. He later realized it's not that easy.
He's still sad and guilty because of Aerith's death in AC, if Aerith didn't push him to forgive himself he would still be like that. He chooses to welcome death in her church instead of fighting geostigma.
In DoC, after he let go of his guilt, he's still sad without her.
It's over.
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I just love Zack so much bros. I don't even mind Aerith ending up with Cloud, but can he have good scenes with Aerith in Revelation? Their reunion in EC was dogshit.
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>>740880969
>Cloud wanted to be special hierarchically
And he ended up doing something not even a SOLIDER First Class in Zack could do
>it's ok to be awkward, bad at socializing, and it's okay to make fun of yourself a bit. Aerith represents that.
What a bizarre logic leap, especially since Aerith is dead
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>>740881248
>AC
>DoC
Those are SquareEnix titles, not Squaresoft. Final Fantasy is strictly a Squaresoft game franchise (everything after it isn't real FF), and FFVII in particular is exclusively the games directed by Yoshinori Kitase (who didn't direct any of the sequels, even if he was a producer). I don't care for your stale Nomura fanfic, the influences that resulted in FFVII clearly show that Cloud must overcome Zack's feelings and breed Tifa.
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>>740876352
I prefer Aerith, but I also think she's better for Cloud.
Although the idea of the hot girl liking you is a nice ego boost.
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You fucking fags have been doing this shit for 30 fucking years now
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>>740881724
Wrong. Cloud is only interested in Tifa in the OG if you mess with the affection system. You direct him to like her, the default option is he's lukewarm to her after finding out his real past.
Also, Aerith is the only one who noticed real Cloud before the lifestream.
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>>740881879
FF7 is /v/'s Evangelion
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>>740877547
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There is a clear canon, but people refuse to accept it.
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>>740881941
Doesn't matter, Aerith is dead, so the only girl Cloud can be affectionate towards is Tifa. Considering the anti-demiurge naturalist theme of FF7 it would be out of character and out of narrative for him to ever see Aerith again.
Also, Aerith was the only one who noticed the real Cloud because she was the only one who knew Zack and could isolate which parts of Cloud were Zack and which were Cloud. Tifa knew the real Cloud from way before he was ever part Zack though.
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Aerith only liked Cloud because he reminded her of Zack
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>>740882169
Tifa was not close to Cloud and never understood him. Even with the years of "knowing him" beforehand. While Aerith was able to realize he was not himself very easily.
It would be out of character for Cloud to let go of Aerith after she has been his objective for so many years across so many games.
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>>740882415
That's the opposite of what she says in her date. You know, the default date that starts with 50 affection points?
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>>740882484
>Aerith was able to realize he was being Zack very easily.
ftfy
It would be out of character for Cloud to go after Aerith, the Zack inside him was the one doing so.
>across so many games
Enix fanfics, mind you.
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>>740878221
He really steps up in Rebirth, but in Remake Tifa/Aerith unironically makes far more sense than Cloud with either of them. He has negative chemistry with them there.
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troon thread
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>>740877547
cute
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>>740882767
Cloud was never someone else, he was just acting under the assumption he was a successful SOLDIER. His feelings through the game are his own.
He fell in love with Aerith.
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>>740876352
It's coming, finally a non depressed Cloud.
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>>740883021
The opposite is coming. An ultra depressed Cloud. Before reunion
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The loading time improvements is crazy in rebirth
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>>740876352
What a question.
But I'm not sure how the third game will go.
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They are fucking everyone over.
Hamguchi basically confirmed they are catering to everyone instead of choosing a clear narrative because "muh 30 years supporting a character so they all deserve to be catered to". The fighting will never stop.
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Ghost force Aerith is going to have affinity points so you can have a moment with her under the Highwind.
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Where the hell is my VIII crossover
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>>740876352
Clephiroth.
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>>740884568
They justo can't pick a lane, I'm so tired.
I can see it so clearly in my mind, it will be a reverse of the GS dates.
Tifa won't get overtly romantic moments but will have very intimate/platonic moments you can read as romance, basically what the highwind scene already was.
Aerith will have a big romantic climax but you only see it if you choose her options.
Ending will be Cloud saying he'll reunite with Aerith one day, but he will seem happy/resigned.
Cloti fans will say 'oh, he's so in love with Tifa but misses his friend Aerith a little, Tifa is right there to console him' like in the OG.
Aerith fans will say 'he wants to reunite with his true love so badly, Tifa is his friend trying to support him, like we see in the game'.
Repeat for another 30 years.
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>>740876352
Cloud's mom is a combination of the two personality-wise so it's heavily implied he'd be happy either way.
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>>740884568
>>740885775
Cloud already kissed Tifa and has nothing equivalent with Aerith
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>>740876352
Clarret
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>>740885775
I just want them to stop using Cloud like this and hiding behind "optional!" "Identity crisis!".
Let him express himself and be open about what he wants goddammit.
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Will Sephiroth really imitate Aerith to get to Cloud?
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>>740885896
Yeah, under his identity crisis. They gave them a hug too and try to explain it away already. No Aerith scene has an explanation like this. But that's gone in part 3.
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>>740876352
Barrith
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Tifa belongs to Cloud
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>>740876352
Cloud x Tifa
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At least Hamaguchi is lowkey funny
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>>740882858
Hypocrite zelinkfag
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>>740876352
Based on playing the games and getting in Cloud's shoes, I believe Aerith is the one he really loves.
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>>740886731
Yep, he definitely "settled" for Tifa
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FF7's plot is way funnier on replay because at first you think the plot is Sephiroth living rent free in Cloud's head when the reality is that Cloud is living rent free in Sephiroth's head
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DAMN
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>>740886501
You wish.
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>>740886501
based
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>>740886731
>Cloud leaves home to score points with Tifa because in his mind he needs to be cool to get her affection
>Mindbroken Cloud manages to restore his mind to an operative level because he meets Tifa again
>Cloud's mind breaks a second time because Tifa can't validate his schizo version of events anymore
>Cloud gets fixed for real because of Tifa
Everything points to Tifa.
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>>740876352
Yuffie is better than both.
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Clerithbros... even Japan has abandoned us...
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Tifa.
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>>740887232
That would make Cloud really shallow as the Tifafags that put her on a lofty pedestal. Impressing Tifa was one of the reasons he joined SOLDIER. He primarily wanted to come into his own and become strong like Sephiroth. He was going to do it if Tifa wanted it or not. The reason Tifa grows into her eventual redemption arc in the first place is because of Aerith realizing what was right for Cloud was beyond her.
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>>740886501
that would be hot!
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>>740876352
Aerith
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>>740876352
Tifa
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>>740888235
>He primarily wanted to come into his own and become strong like Sephiroth
Which was literally motivated by him thinking that would get him Tifa's affection.
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>>740888235
>He primarily wanted to come into his own and become strong like Sephiroth
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>>740887232
Wrong on absolutely every account and an absolutely surface level reading of the story and characters.
>Cloud leaves home to score points with Tifa because in his mind he needs to be cool to get her affection
Cloud leaves home because he desperately wants to believe he's special, since he's an outcast, too awkward to ask to join in, shunned, excluded, and blamed for Tifa's accident.
Tifa is the popular girl, the village idol, and the one he "failed" to protect, she's an extension of the childish wish to be recognized, not the other way around.
He does believe he has to put on a show for her though.
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>>740887232
>Mindbroken Cloud manages to restore his mind to an operative level because he meets Tifa again
Jenova cells read Tifa's memories and her misconceptions of Cloud, basically helping his try hard personality be born, combined with Cloud's image of an ideal SOLDIER.
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>final fartasy thread
>0 gameplay discussion
Classic.
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>>740888749
>Jenova cells read Tifa's memories
If that were the case then why couldn't his mind rebuild off of Zack instead?
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>>740887232
>Cloud's mind breaks a second time because Tifa can't validate his schizo version of events anymore
Tifa hides the truth the whole game, out of fear for Cloud's reaction. Cloud never broke because he found out he was a grunt, in fact, the discovery gave him peace in the lifestream. He broke because Sephiroth told him he never existed in the first place, and Tifa can't refute him. Her handling of the situation was pisspoor, since Cloud was already vulnerable because Aerith was just killed in front of him, and that's when Tifa crumbled, in the worst moment.
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>>740888583
>>740888615
Understand the word "primarily" before you simply echo my point. If you think Cloud just wanted to get into Tifa's special panties first and foremost, you discredit his character arc detrimentally. Cloud wanted to become strong, realizing that everything else would come after.
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>>740887232
>Cloud gets fixed for real because of Tifa
Tifa cheers on Cloud while HE finds out the truth by himself, and she's basically more surprised than he is about every discovery, because she had no idea what he was going through or felt. She would never be able to 'fix' him when she doesn't know what's wrong.
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>>740888615
>Using one of these 20 hastily done scripts by an urgently-called-upon jobber Masato Kato who's barely familiar with the whole plot to "prove" anything.
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>>740888938
Cause he was dead maybe
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>Cloud isn't allowed into Tifa's friend group even though he actually wants to be a part of it because he has a crush on her
This is the starting point for everything
>Cloud starts considering himself 'different' because he isn't allowed into the friend group. Eventually he copes by saying he's actually better than them and doesn't need their acceptance
This is a direct parallel to Sephiroth reframing his own insecurities about his monstrous nature as being part of a superior chosen race
>Cloud tries to protect Tifa and fails when she falls during her journey across Mt. Nibel
At the peak of his self loathing he becomes violent and starts lashing out at most people in town, getting into fights
>At this point he actually learns about Sephiroth existing and thinks that if he can become strong like him Tifa will fall in love with him
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>>740882830
It depends of some scenaristic choices you made before. There is an alternative cutscene where Cloud is the one catching her and Tifa is behind watching.
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>>740889010
Because Cloud said that he doesn't actually clearly remember shit and the only reason he has confidence is because Tifa validated him by saying 'Long time no see Cloud" when they met at the train station.
And because Tifa herself has doubts she has no ability to enthusiastically validate his incorrect retelling of events which is what he is asking her to give him in that moment. She was the singular toothpick propping up his psyche
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>>740876352
Aerith :3
Everything points to her
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>>740889175
The only reason he's able to even do that is because Tifa shuts down his attempt to yet again self insert into Zack by revealing the truth in the first 'step' of the lifestream sqeuence. Also the fact that this entire lie is premised on the fact that he was too ashamed to admit to Tifa in the moment that he never actually fulfilled his side of the promise is key.
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>ff7 boomers and their never ending shippingfaggotry, completely missing the point that their game is fundamentally about trauma, grief, mental health, and environmental collapse, and not about whether their Gohan lookalike fucks the gooner bait heroine or the flower slut
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>>740889816
Yes, that's her only contribution, revealing she was lying. That unleashes a chain of events culminating in Cloud discovering the truth by himself.
And he's ashamed because he comes back as a nobody to the town that looked down on him, not only because if Tifa.
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>>740890019
He was prepared to walk into town with his helmet off until he sees Tifa
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>>740890091
Yes, she's the culmination of his feelings of shame.
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>>740889010
>Tifa hides the truth the whole game, out of fear for Cloud's reaction
>Cloud's mind breaks a second time because Tifa can't validate his schizo version of events anymore
So she was right to do so
>Tifa crumbled, in the worst moment
If that's your assessment then you can't get mad that she "lied" to him at any point of the game
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>>740889103
>Understand the word "primarily"
Cloud never makes a big deal about being strong to impress people, he does make it his focus after Tifa goes into a coma while being powerless to prevent it.
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>>740889647
She's unable to clarify the contradictions in his memories, and that proves fatal.
Cloud may have reacted badly if she confronted that, but we'll never know because she never did it. We do know not doing it is described as tragic.
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>>740887114
You can tell by the art that this guy was an aerithfag
really sexy aerith
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I like Hollow
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>>740889219
Maybe you should tell Nojima to retcon it then. I'm sure he'd love hearing about it on his twitter.
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>>740890296
No, Cloud breaks because he believes he's just a Sephiroth clone instead of a real person, not because the events didn't happen like he thought.
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Do i need to play the part 1 dlc before rebirth?
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I think the new Hollow version is Sephiroth's version to Cloud, they focused a lot on them in the video.
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>>740890519
The thing that makes him break isn't the assertion that he's a clone, but that Tifa can't refute the possibility and then he starts questioning it himself.
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>>740886383
I always thought Tifa's route was about giving mind jumbled Cloud the opportunity to believe he achieved what he wanted as a kid, and it's framed as unhealthy for both Cloud and Tifa.
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Am I the only non autist? Cloud loves Aeris but isn't IN LOVE with aeris. Cloud is IN LOVE with Tifa.
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Why did they focus so much on Aerith's death in Advent Children? We already had a greats narrative where everyone gets over her death and is happy in the OG.
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>>740891113
The opposite is true.
Cloud falls in love with Aerith for real.
He likes Tifa, and cares about her, but his 'romantic' feelings for her are just the manifestation of his childhood wishes, his fixation on what he couldn't achieve.
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>>740890734
He shuts down Sephiroth at first. It's when Tifa can't reassure him he's real that he believes Sephiroth is telling the truth. He breaks when he entertains the possibility of being a puppet.
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>>740891113
You're not alone, brother.
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>>740890787
>Cloud establishes a false narrative that goes relatively unchallenged and is mostly okay
>Once there's solid evidence against that narrative Cloud completely loses his ego and becomes directly subservient to Sephiroth, apologizing to the team before giving Sephiroth the Black Materia
Not sure how you came to that conclusion
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>>740891606
>He shuts down Sephiroth at first. It's when Tifa can't reassure him he's real that he believes Sephiroth is telling the truth
Exactly the point
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Will they really shut down one side and make things clear?
Maybe they can make Cloud say 'I remember now, I've always been in love with you Tifa, like I am now, I love you' to remove all doubt?
I feel they will pussy out. Hamaguchi has been giving everyone copes so they buy the game.
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>>740891787
So he breaks because he believes he's a puppet, because of Sephiroth's words
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Aerith is the true love. They've made it obvious.
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>>740891908
Which happens not because Sephiroth said it, but because Tifa couldn't refute the possibility.
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>>740891825
>Hamaguchi has been giving everyone copes so they buy the game.
>Give everyone copes so they buy your game and then rugpull the shit out of one side after you get their money
Based
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>>740892046
If he was told he was never there he would be weirded out but not break, even if Tifa couldn't refute it.
He break because he specifically believes he wasn't there AND that he's a puppet. It's the belief he's never been real that breaks him.
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>>740891825
Hamaguchi promised me I could save Aerith :^)
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>>740892208
>He break because he specifically believes he wasn't there
Because Tifa believes he wasn't
>AND that he's a puppet
That was already proven at the Temple of the Ancients so again it's Tifa's inability to refute Sephiroth's claim that becomes the catalyst for his breakdown
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>>740892426
Tifa's inability to reassure him is the catalyst that makes him listen to Sephiroth, but what breaks him is not the events being different, it's believing he's not a real person.
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>>740892548
>Tifa's inability to reassure him is the catalyst that makes him listen to Sephiroth
Correct
>what breaks him is not the events being different, it's believing he's not a real person
Because Tifa is unable to reassure him that what Sephiroth claimed wasn't true
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I just want Cloud to save Aerith and get a W in his life
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>>740892831
He did though, it was just in an alternate timeline/universe/dream/memory
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>>740892831
And he will. Hamaguchi will let us save her again and reunite.
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>>740891825
Yeah, I thought they would be firm, but after the interviews I think they'll give the Tifa side space to cope.
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You may not accept it, but Aerith's purpose is simply to help Cloud open up, because he's always felt inadequate and not worthy of Tifa
It's been made abundantly clear throughout the games
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You may not accept it, but Cloud's love for Tifa is childhood infatuation based on his wish to be a cool hero, and he's meant to grow out of it and fall in love for real with Aerith.
It's been made abundantly clear in the games.
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Why are these reddit ass threads here
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>>740893648
Yes, this is precisely why his entire subconscious revolves around Tifa's memories
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>>740886383
>one night stand
What possessed them
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>>740876352
Fuck choosing and just make them a trouple…. as long as you ignore the fact Aerith is dead, I mean what are the chances they’ll retcon that
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>>740886383
They framed him giving the flower to Tifa and the hug as a bad thing, but I feel they won't follow up on it in part 3 and act as if it never happened.
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I feel they intended to imply Cloud ends up with Tifa in the OG despite saying he wants to reunite with Aerith.
Then they backtracked hard in the sequels and made him pine hard for Aerith. Wonder what happened.
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>>740894256
They are both great choices for Cloud. However, Tifa had her timeline. Now it's Aerith's turn.
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>>740876352
The loli
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>>740893648
This.
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Why are Tifa centric takes so reductionist? It feels like the aim is to put Tifa at the center of everything to the detriment of Cloud as a character and the story as a whole. Do people enjoy the story like this?
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>>740895239
Probably self-inserters.
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Hamagoat is shutting dumb takes down left and right.
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>>740895865
The link to AC is that both the Aerith and Tifa endings will feature Denzel where he's Cloud's biological child in the Aerith end and an adopted child named Denzel in the Tifa end whom he believes is a gift from Aerith.
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>>740885775
Nah, Aerith is 100% living this time. Cloud and Aerith will be together in one timeline, the other timeline will be as you say.
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>>740897428
That's complete ass. I want Aerith saved in the main timeline, not a copout.
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>>740886582
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>>740886582
Trvke
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No more fanservice please. Just pick a story and stick with it.
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As someone who tried to finish the game as soon as possible and focused on mandatory content, they've been gunning hard for Cloud and Aerith as a couple.
Will they really ignore that and focus on Cloud and Tifa for part 3?
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Everything about aerith and tifa is so warm. It is like Ive known them my entire life. I think it is because of their soundtracks

https://youtu.be/ujrn-yfo8Ts

https://youtu.be/QEE9gp1vK1o
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Why is Hamaguchi so damn confident? Is the ending that good or is he pretending to sell the game?
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>>740895865
This whole shit has been controversial on twitter and it is so tiresome how delusional people are, man. Specially the shippers.
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>>740895865
This was obvious
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Jessie
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>>740893648
What if the whole retrilogy is Cloud's dream and this is what he wants to hear from each girl.
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>>740901193
Sorry bro, Jessie was super hot, but Cloud didn't seem into it. Although obviously saddened by her death, he reacted even less than to Tifa's death.
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Tifa is just for ME.
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>>740902597
Johnny...
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>>740889951
Cloud's journey is equally important. The point is finding out in the lifestream the reason Jenova cells helped his delusion was his wish to reject his real self and become a generic cool hero. This is the reason why leaving his feelings for Tifa behind is a fundamental part of the story. But it's bittersweet because it means he lost the person that was actually interested in his real self.
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Aeris is more beautiful but Tifa is hotter....
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Aeris as a force ghost will watch Tifa get creampied multiple times under the Highwind
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>>740900351
Does he realize how many psychos will try to kill him when Cloud obviously chooses Aerith? He's too pretty carefree to know.
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Would she really be able to handle don by herself or was she just retarded here?
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>>740905356
No, she would be subdued and taken hostage.
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>>740905562
I mean it's not like Don Corneo, an information kingpin, wouldn't know who Tifa was and her fighting prowess/lineage. He would be prepared.
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>>740905356
VII was grounded in terms of strength, she would've lost, so retarded due to embracing a suicide mission over Cloud's death..
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>>740905832
Yeah, "suicide" mission, as if they would kill her
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>>740905978
Well, you get what I meant. Self annihilation through bodily defilement.
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>>740876352
I just want to save Aerith and be happy with her
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>>740876352
It’s canon that Tifa is the only one for Cloud
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>>740883021
>It's coming, finally a non depressed Cloud.
I think killing Aerith would have the opposite effect but I guess not.
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>>740876352
sounds like the name of two diseases
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>>740906330
It's just interesting she chose that type of mission specifically
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>>740906446
Didn't Hamaguchi tell this artist specifically that he would give her a perfect answer?
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The tears of all the delusional clerithfags will be so sweet once revelation comes out
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>>740907124
Sounds like coping bro
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>>740881531
Same, he's my best friend, people just don't understand him.
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>>740907683
I hope he appears in the lifestream sequence, Cloud needs a real friend there.
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>>740876352
Clerith by characters or story, be it standalone, Compilation or Remake. Aerti by fanbase.

Tifa should get together with Rude, because only he treats her right.
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>>740905356
Sloppy whitewashing of her original "job" here. >>740897117

>https://m5.imhentai.xxx/019/acu5z7v6wd/4.jpg
>https://m5.imhentai.xxx/019/acu5z7v6wd/6.jpg
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How can I make fans stop hating Zack?
Clerith fans hate him for getting in the way even though he wants to help Cloud and Aerith to reunite.
Cloti fans just use him to shit on clerith fans, "ship" him with Aerith after calling her a whore all the time, and just want them both out of the way, they disgust me.
Most Zerith fans are cloti in disguise.
Aerti fans hate all the male characters in the series.
Is there a community that appreciates Zack and ships him with Aerith without hating the story or her?
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>>740908143
>How can I make fans stop hating Zack?
Wish for a clear Zissnei victory. But to get even more fundamental, after they sanded off his more unsavory womanizer, unscrupulousness over his job and proactive aggression qualities he doesn't quite fit the gritty world of VII anymore by being such a naive good boy and that will cause friction for people.
>Is there a community that appreciates Zack and ships him with Aerith without hating the story or her?
There's a minor chance it could exist, but you'll always be waiting for the other shoe to drop, I fear.
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>>740905778
Ok I did some research and Corneo was actually too much of a closeted gooner and cartoonishly stupid to know who Tifa was despite her bounty being plastered all over the news. But considering Corneo had the whole mansion rigged and she was outnumbered 10:1, I still don't think she would have made it out solo.
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>>740886281
I would like to be Aerith's puppet.
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>>740909601
Such is the burden of best boy I guess.
I really like his relationship with Aerith but understand he's the type that tries to save everyone, and even if she moves on I know he will always be special to her, so I'm ok with that.
It's just fans bastardize their characters more than square enix does to fit the "he would drop everyone for her!" "the whole story is her being in denial over his death!" boxes that fit their narrative. I don't feel like they really like Zack, and of course they hate Aerith.
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>>740910646
Me too, I want her to take me on dates an make me have fun with her, fuck my life. It would be even better if I resist and she forces me a bit.
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What if Sephiroth transforms like this? Surely Cloud wouldn't
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>>740911372
Super Soldier Aerith is weird
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>>740911372
I hope he doesn't.
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>FF7 Rebirth adds a bunch of dumbshit like the ability to make everyone invincible and do 9999 damage all the time
>None of this is useful to me
>The one thing that might be useful is the ability to one-shot things in mini-games
>This doesn't actually help at all with the two minigames that I'm completely unable to complete

My point is fuck Chocobo gliding.
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>>740876352
Cloud is Aerith's boyfriend.
Tifa is Aerith's sex slave.
Cissnei is Aerith's Cuck.
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>>740876687
>i am not deranged
no you are retarded, apparently the concept of "shipping" is lost on you nufags.
it has nothing to do with canon, its what people prefer, which is funny because its the whole reason why fire emblem, rune factory and in some cases persona games got notoriety
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>>740877547
Cloud would make love to Tifa once a week. Aerith would relentlessly lick and pound Tifa every day. Aerith knows what Tifa needs.
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I'm so jealous of Cloud, it's not fair.
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I think Aerith was better at bringing Cloud out of his shell and reading him in general than Tifa. Overall, Tifa's sort of completely incapable of understanding Cloud, and it just feels awkward at how utterly incapable they are at communicating with each other. Tifa only manages to achieve anything by falling into the Lifestream with him and gaining magic access to his mind.
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>>740912016
That is how they're written deliberately, yes. The moment Tifa stops having access to his mind she stops understanding him, like in AC.
Meanwhile Aerith is extremely perceptive to how he feels even after death.
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I hope in the third game, they let me freely change the appearance of my weapon. Ultima Weapon's probably gonna be an ugly piece of shit so I'd appreciate being able to change how it looks.
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I want to hold Aerith's delicate hand in mine
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>>740876352
One is a huge tittied girl the other is a corpse
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>>740911787
Introverted awkward men are the favorite prey of beautiful extroverted girls like Aerith. She knows he can't say no, he never stood a chance.
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>>740913430
I would say Tifa is more extroverted than Aeris. Aeris isn't really extroverted as much as she is clueless about social norms. It's the extroverted party girl sluts than love the introverted awkward men.
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>>740914006
Then where’s my party girl ?
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Which FF7 girl has the most cheese between their toes?

And why is it not currently spread on a cracker and in my mouth?
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>>740882610
yeah this gets always ignored because its basically says it all and some just cant handle that
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>>740877547
This and they both have 30 inch dicks
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>>740876352
This tells you everything already.
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Remake and Rebirth made me pretty cold to TifaxCloud. It's seriously kind of annoying watching these two interact. Maybe their interactions weren't quite as intolerable in the original game, but I just can't deal with their bullshit anymore.
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>>740912564
You can do that in FF16.
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>>740884904
You mean you can have her watch while cloud and tifa will have love dovey passionate sex, and she will cheer me them on, like a proper wingman
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>>740912016
Does Cloud understand Tifa? He seems oblivious to her and confused by her.

Aerith on the other hand understands both Cloud and Tifa.
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>>740877547
>>740878221
>>740879354
>>740882012
>>740882940
>>740911750
>>740914329
disgusting "transbians" detected
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>>740916801
I don't think he does. I think he has some understanding that she expects something out of him, but he doesn't completely get what it is. That's what it all boils down to. Tifa sees Cloud her only remaining link to Nibelheim. She has nothing else from those days, nothing to prove that they happened aside from her memories. When Cloud came back into her life, it was like a piece of home had walked through her doorstep. I think that's sort of why she's so desperate to keep him around. She has sort of this highly idealized image of what kind of person Cloud should be, but Cloud repeatedly fails to live up to those expectations.

Cloud senses that Tifa wants something from him, but he doesn't understand what it is. So he keeps trying to play up his image of a hero, of a SOLDIER, in the hopes that this is what Tifa wants. But it's not. Tifa isn't able to see past the facade, while Cloud is unable to understand Tifa's expectations. As a result, their attempts at communication constantly fail.

The only times Cloud and Tifa are able to communicate is when they talk about the old days at Nibelheim. This is the only point that the two of them have in common, and so when they're reminiscing about these shared memories, the only thing for certain that they're sync'd on, they're able to talk much more naturally. But the moment they come back to the present, it's like listening to two walls talk at each other. And unfortunately, if Advent Children is anything to go by, things don't improve that much even a year or so later. They STILL can't fucking talk worth shit.
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>>740876352
Polycule.
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>>740917651
>She has sort of this highly idealized image of what kind of person Cloud should be
If you could qualify it beyond a vague assumption other than "doesn't run off on his own to be a depressed loner" I might consider the possibility
>Cloud senses that Tifa wants something from him, but he doesn't understand what it is
He could just ask her but then this whole LTD would be solved so he's written to be an autistic retard specifically when it comes to what would he want out of a romantic relationship.
>The only times Cloud and Tifa are able to communicate is when they talk about the old days at Nibelheim
Seems like they do fine when he's not suffering from Geostigma, see pic related and Reminiscence of FF7
https://youtu.be/LGj3YEP03Vs?t=1330



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