I don't get it.
you have to do all the shitty side missions to not be underleveled
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>>740877542Level doesn't matter.
>>740877121Let me guess, you don't Ki Pulse let alone Flux.
>>740879675>yes, press the trigger after every attack string little goy, you want your stamina back right? You have to be an unironic cuck to tolerate this shit
>>740879795Filtered it is.
>>740877121Ya gotta elaborate bro. What don't you get?
>>740877121they replaced the giga chad blonde white man protagonist for silent protagonist and cringe side charactersplus it runs like shit on deck so i stopped playing after i got to nargacuga
>>740877121It’s a good game so that makes sense
>>740877121It's just a bargain bin Souls clone that panders to Ninja Gaiden fans.
>>740877121wow
>>740877121>T. Khazan dev
>>740879889Based. OP wants to play Dark Souls and got scared when more buttons were required than R1 and O. >>740879795Learning basic game mechanics makes you respond like this? Lord have mercy on you. How do you even function as a human being? Do you make eggs and call "salt" goyslop and "pepper" niggerflakes?
>>740877121What's you guy's opinion on Nioh 3? I like,it has a lot of problems, but combat wise, it's better than 2 IMO.
>>740880351i think combat wise its better than 2, the cast of characters isnt as colorful, if Takeda Shingen didnt carry the first act, the plot would be a huge nothing burger, Dio doesn't save it and Takedas voice actor RIP
>>740880637True, the story was really bad.
>>740877121I'll be honest, I love the games but when I complete the campaign I just don't feel like going on, so I never touched NG+ much. Happened with both 1 and 2.I think I'll get back into Nioh 2 though because 3 wasn't doing much for me.Any tips for tackling NG+/the DLC?
>>740877121loved it immenselywhen i first started I got my ass handed to me and had to leave. the KI pulse and the first big ape you fight on the first level, I just couldn't do it.i went back one day and kept at it, i didnt still get it, but when I did kill him I decided to keep on playing the game as opposed to try and understand the mechanic. i eventually warmed up to it, but I also stuck with the simpler weapons. Beat NG+4 and the final challenge in the DLC before i ran a couple of those tower battles before I got bored
>>740880351Its pretty bad.
>>740881123How very eloquent.
>>740877121Play Nioh 3, it's better than Nioh 2 in every way.
>>740877121Darksouls but you mash buttons
>>740879992It's not fun.
>>740877121>dies in 2 hits>enemies take 1000 hits to killI never understood the appeal of these games
>>740881293maybe AI ain't so bad>>740881396it helps no one to be reductive
>>740881293>open world slopNow I know you’re lying
>>740879795This but genuinely. You're a dumb little goy slave if you play the game where you can regain your stamina mid combo. Based chad just stops attacking when he's out of stamina.
>>740879795>StaminaAh i see you never played it Fluxing is used to extend your combosIts basically your attack cancelling tech of nioh 2
>>740877121Crazy that they went from Ninja Gaiden to soulslop
>>740881261You asked
>>740877121I love nioh2 because its basically feels like a mix of fighting and action game with monster hunter style gameplay loop
>>740881578I understood gaiden it was hard but made sense I got to some bone monster a dragon I think in one go before I stopped playing cause its repetitive. But Nioh I just don't get. cant even jump? wat.
>740881396I know how upset you are by the truth but hunting the wrong man won't make your pet project people any less apathetic. Can you feel it? ASUKA!? THE SACRED PLACE WITHIN ME THAT NO BEING MAY INTRUDE!?Any victory you can walk away from wasn't that the saying?
>>740879675One of the great things about these games is that you never need to be able to do that gay shit, at least on the first three difficulties AFAIK.
>>740881667Really? Which MonHun would you say is closest to Nioh?
>>740881293Nioh general on /vg/ was killed by that game.
>>740881775>Ninja gaiden>Repetitive
>>7408818914u and sunbreak endgame content
>>740881909There was a Nioh general?>was killed by that game.Why?
>>740881909How so?
>>740882034>>740882180iykyk
>>740882034>>740882180No endgame. It has the Monster Hunter issue of the game not being done until DLCs are out compounded by having a pretty terrible NG+ that requires going through the open world again and the very uninteresting main missions. The last mission is the only good main one and even the side missions are pretty underwhelming other than the gauntlet ones. At least in 2 you didn't have to replay all of the missions and skip the ones that weren't that good.
>>740882662Yeah, that makes sense. I'm having trouble with keeping on playing it because ng2 is pretty weak.
>>740882662That makes sense, I know that I'm waiting for the final DLC for 3. I played the first two after they had all their DLC and they were awesome. More than enough stuff to do for a year until 3 is similarly complete.
The only reason I picked this up was because im a brapfag and I saw there was a fart attack, and no footage on yt of it being used by a Fem Protag. I finished the first chapter and lost interest. How far into the game is your first opportunity to get the Tesso Soul Core?
>a sequel to a shit game is shitbreaking news
The state of Nioh 3 on release killed discussion of the entire IP
play nioh 3 instead
>>740880351Combat is a little better but the rest of the game is a huge downgrade and most of the new features are poorly thought out or implemented.
>Wo Long 2 got announced before any news on Nioh 3 dlcit was that bad, huh?
>>740887274>y u no cannonballize ur biznezz
>>740887236I agree. The open world in particular, I feel it was completely unnecessary.
>>740884542It's like halfway through the base game, so 3 chapters
>>740886979When do you fight her? I might just play enough to reach her.
>>740890032second act i think
>>740879795It's a cool feature that allows you to defeat your opponents faster though instead of just mashing light attacks and rolls
>>740880351the thing that really made nioh 1 and 2 click for me is the fact that they have discreet levels i could just load up and play. makes them way more approachable and enjoyable for me than nioh 3, even if 3 still has best-in-class combat design
>>740880198>dark souls mentioned out of nowherebuck broken
>>740890771Yeah, very true. It's even dumber, because the open world is kinda just normal, linear levels that are connected. It's a bunch of routes. There really was no reason for the open world.
>>740882034Really should just be a Team Ninja General to encompass Nioh, Ronin, Wo Long and Stranger in Moscow
>>740877121You don't get it and that's a problem. It's why shitty games like Elden Ring with their baby mode handholding features get 40 million sales while great games like Nioh 2 suffer.
>>740891347Not everyone wants to autistically sort 57 trillion items anon. I've 100%'d both Nioh 2 and ER and ER is just the better game.
>>740891462motherfucker after your first team ninja game you should know unless you're married to a set bonus scrap it for your desired gold or materials and move on. if you think that sucks ill show you shadow of the erdtree loot
>>740877121Return to the better game
>>740879795>Erm actually doing this while fighting the same 5 enemies for 50 hours is actually BASEDNioh games are all terrible. It's fucking wild that I've played and beaten probably over a hundred Soulslike games and love me some ARPG loot slop. Yet I can't stand more then 5 hours of any Nioh game.
>>740891517That's not even the defining difference between the two games. In ER the world itself is cool to explore. You don't even need loot to feel a sense of satisfaction just sight seeing. In the entire Nioh franchise level and world design is pure dogshit. Khazan suffered from that same issue.Also fromsoft having unique weapons with slight moveset variations feels more interesting than niohs 14ish weapons with deep move pools but visual skins.
>>740891597bad ng+ progression
>>740892060a fair take but anyone complaining about nioh's loot system being too autistic just needs to stop being autistic themselves, or i guess team ninja should say 'hey dont worry about scrapping stuff!' and not prompt you to keep all purple rarities.
>>740891347I didn't like Elden Ring though.
>>740892060>world design>NiohYou fucking mongoloid
>>740892060>That's not even the defining difference between the two games.then why did you mention sorting 57 trillion items then idiot moron
>>740880351It's a lot better. Like 80% of yokai skills were useless, while 10% were absurdly strong and made the game piss easy. The guardian skills are way better balanced. Frost moon skills are really fucking cool and fun to use, while adding a little more skill and depth to game.Arts proficiency is fun and rewards you further for mastering the stance system. I don't care for the parry system so much but it's also not super strong, you can technically ignore it and do perfectly fine. Ninja mode still isn't there yet and the fun balance between them differs wildly. Hoping DLCs can heavily improve them or add new mechanics to it. The only Nioh fans who would hate Nioh 3 are people who were carried yokai skills in 2
>>740881396I can explain from my own perspective I guess. The longer fights allow me to practice different combos and attack strings while more completely memorizing a boss moveset. I dont like when I play a game and I dont *really* feel like I mastered anything. As an example, I recently played the Kingdom Hearts series again on Proud and Critical. It was satisfying to me to learn when to guard, dodge, jump, what moveset and keyblades are effective, to need to go our of my way to wear Fire resistant gear against the Fire enemy, stuff like that. Being forced (using the term lightly) to utilize my entire toolset is fun. Nioh is like that. I am given a shitload of tools, I want to fully utilize them instead of just slamming my R1 button 15 times and winning. I hope I did a decent job explaining.
>>740890850Gr8 B8 M8 I R8 8/8Try attacking my arguement next time :*
>>740891347This is always how it's going to be. This is also why Ninja Gaiden suffers. Among all of the great action game series, Ninja Gaiden is the one that holds your hand the least and has the most obtuse way to play and game feel and while some would claim this is bad game design, in reality this gives something for players to actually learn and git gud at instead of how to play being fairly obvious and the only thing the player learns is the best way to combo or whatever. This is the Team Ninja way and it will always be this way and that's okay, there is clearly an audience for these games and unlike a company like fromsoft TN is actually genuinely trying to innovate and improve upon their games and come up with new systems and ideas. If they were like other game devs instead of getting Nioh, SoP, Wo Long, and RotR which all have different feel and flow to them, we'd be on Nioh 6 by now and it would hardly feel any different than Nioh 2
>>740880351A side grade to 2 and not a full improvement since it plays more like an amalgam of all TNs previous games bundled into one thing.
>>740879795once you get used to it you will complain other games dont do something similar to this. I was once a pleb like you
>>740881293Ai can do this?
>>740895573Ninja Gaiden is 10x better than Nioh.
>>740891597man these games really do look like shit. which one is it? Nioh3?
>>740892060Motherfucker half of all weapons in ER could be cut and nothing notable would be lost as 90% all use the same moveset with only a handful deviating from it. Elden Ring is the epitome of bloat, so much so that all but 9 bosses get reused for side dungeons, caves, graves, and other shit. You’re the pot calling the kettle black.
>>740895868They're different games but they carry the same overall design philosophy which again is what I like about Team Ninja games. And saying "is better" isn't something that's easy to discuss because all 3 NG games are different. NG1 is the most basic but also feels the most strategic, NG2 is practically a musou (and kind of ruins the series with the dismemberment mechanic), and NG3 changes a lot of mechanics while also being a cracked out endurance test.
>>740879675You can beat ng++ without flux
>>740896401Sure, you can do that, but every fight is gonna take you 3x as long to beat.
>>740877121Played for a solid 40 hours and didn't have fun. I don't think I really like lock-on combat in games. Dark Souls got away with it because combat was simplistic and it was more about the levels and adventure, its sequels didn't hit for me because they tried to become combat games.
>>740896525I never had an issue with not using flux in any of the games. I like ki pulse but despise flux and just never bothered to get in down while beating every difficulty mode.
>>740880967Having more time with this sexy little thing almost vindicates the story.
>>740896897ok, ur only robbing yourself
Wo Schlong 2 might be better than Nioh and i'm ready for it
Nioh is a great weeb simulator
Wo Long 2 unnecessary open world slop incoming
>>740899604Nioh 3's open world was a big improvement over RotR desu so I don't really care either way. I don't think there's a massive benefit to the the mission structure of old other than making grinding easier but N3 still has scrolls and still has the crucibles for more contained level structure. In a lot of ways the open world felt like a good middle ground. "Open fields" they used in interviews is a correct term. It's not super open like a normal open world, there's actual structure and level design to various parts of the world and I don't mind exploring every corner of them.
>>740896721>I don't think I really like lock-on combat in gamesA devastating redpill that nobody can swallow is that controllers are holding back action games.
>>740881018Just have fun, bro. The game keeps getting better and better. Currently on NG++ myself, just switched my whole set because of the new mechanics. Masterpiece of a game.
>>740901281No they're not.
>>740900170hmm i think the mission structure allows them to make more curated small set pieces, like the bath house or imperial palace from 2. we are missing any actual ornate architecture, just a bunch of destroyed shit, or a castle made of walls and we get to the final tower and its one room, like Baba Nobuharu.Eras like the Heian have this awesome, dramatic snowy village filled with talismans and pools of blood and then peters out to icy coasts and more spikes, and then thats the rest of the game.Some of the areas in Nioh 3 are the best in the series visually though, dont get me wrong. Areas like the 1st crucible also come to mind.
>>740899604Nioh 3's world can barely be called an open world in a traditional sense, it's a bunch of interconnected tiny levels and it's probably the best way to do more open environments, if Wo Long follows the suit there's nothing wrong with it. I just hope they revamp morale
>>740901281Not even in the slightest, Nioh actually proves that. It's control scheme is extremely well made and I don't see it get enough credit
>>740901281At best I'd say xinput does. I've never used right stick camera by choice.
>>740901814I think the best approach would just be a mix. The biggest upside is having structured levels in more exotic places, you give some good examples. I don't think they'll bring back crucibles so they probably have to come up with something else to give players an excuse for having the more strucutred levels of old and i'm here for it. Crucibles are fine as levels but visually too repetitive.
>>740881018If you don't feel a need to you don't. I did a full clear of all the NG+s and the Underworld. But you have to have the specific autism that loves the combat, loves farming, and loves tweaking builds to go that far and not burn out.
>>740895573>Wo Long 2>MC posesses some sort of a phoenix >visibly has feathers on his fists when doing the post deflect attackWonder if MC is a chinese version of a shiftling.
>>740902157i have a feeling the dlcs may just be like the original map but even more dense, or more like their original map structure but conjoined in a major way. theyll just get their own tab at the magic mirror. or they could make one dlc drastically different than the other in layout.
>>740901674>>740901974>>740902151I hope one day, when you're old, someone will open your eyes. And you'll be able to look back at this moment and laugh at how blind you were.
>>740902718The only argument for KBM controls is being able to use the mouse to control the camera but this isn't an issue that needs fixing for most action games. If your argument is "durrr keyboard means more actions durrr" then the irony is ignoring good control schemes and trying to brute force complexity by just adding more keys instead of designing something that feels complex and simultaneously intuitive
>>740902718Well you didn't really say why you think what you said. Go on, explain yourself, champ.
>>740903125Even for camera you have gyro or touchpads as options on the majority of controllers. It's really just an xinput (or console? I guess PS5 wouldn't give the options) problem, if one wanted to consider it a problem.
What's next after becoming shogun?
>>740904745Hopefully the last game. Though I wouldn't mind some kind of Nioh spin-off that doesn't really try to have any sort of real story and is just an excuse to keep the gameplay and feudal japan world and weapons
>>740904990kinda sad the celtic mythology nioh 3 never happened, although I shouldn't be that surprised since 2's director left the company
>>740905106It would just be an original IP, no real reason to have it be named Nioh if it's not in japan
>>740877121I do.
>>740880351I think it's alright. More of a side grade to Nioh 2.
>>740884542To give you some motivation, the brap attack is very good on human and fairly decent on yokai.
>>740891139>Stop gooning to the yokai, Takechiyo
>>740905106>since 2's director left the companyIsn't Nioh 2's director Yasuda? He's company president.
>>740880351I'm enjoying it. Combat is much more fun with the introduction of jump attack mechanics and ninja mode, but the trade off is that they kill a good bit of the difficulty. I'm not really bothered by the lower difficulty, but I can recognize that that was the main draw for a number of fans of this franchise. People also like to meme against the open world experience too, though honestly I like that it went in this direction, I just wish it's world was more populated with non-hostile npcs, the game is basically a post apocalypse scenario.
>>740905975Yes. He directed Nioh 1, got promoted and was director AND producer of Nioh 2, and at some point became the president. He is the one who talked about a celtic nioh and he was also the one pushing for a new ninja gaiden...though it's hard to say if NG4 is the result he truly wanted
>>740880351cons:>the removal of mission structure is gay>it looks the same as nioh 2 but runs way worse>the story is the worst in the series>ninja mode is fucking gay>we finally got transmog presets like in RotR, but the fashion itself is fucking terrible, both for armor and weaponspros:>parrying and frostmoon are great additions>living weapon is back and it's way better than nioh 1 living weapon and nioh 2 yokai shift>enemy variety is good, and it'll get even better with the DLC>bosses are great>new enemies are range from okay to greatit was okay
>>740906916What's a transmog preset? Like you save your fashion and then it stays on no matter what gear you equip? If so that's kinda neat.
>>740907637pretty much exactly that, you could save presets just like you can with the character slots, it was pretty neat especially since rotr's fashion was a lot more in depth since it had torso layers with undershirts and jackets.
>>740892060LmaooooER has level design?
>>740906916Nioh 3s enemy variety is all over the place, most of the time you’ll see the same low tier yokai infesting the area and human enemies, and human enemies have always been the weaker bunch to fight in these games.
>>740908387at least deflecting makes humans way more fun to fight
I love this move
>>740908709They honestly made 1kat way too powerrful
>>740908850Nah, Japanese people were just really fragile back then
>>740880351Feels like there's about 20% of the bossfights of Nioh 2? Bit of a disappointment all round, Nioh 2 was one of my biggest favourites of the last decade
>>740880351>no one mentioned the musicmotherfuckers, the music was the thing that suffered the most from nioh 2 to nioh 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgW7PA51nu4
>>740910428This area will make me start a new character after I'm done with all the NG+ cycles just so I can go through it again...
>>740908709
>>740908709>>740909027
>>740881018First campaign playthrough is pretty much just a tutorial, the game doesn't really open up until NG+ with Divine items and later on Graces for build creations.
>>740880351Nioh 3 is censored slop, don't buy it.
>>740911550Bought a new computer today, just to play Nioh 3. Last parts should arrive on monday.
>>740911994its not a bad game. play it in JP, the voice performances are at least decent.
>>740910645Imagine if she actually had the non-telegraphed player version of that move, people would ragequit this game so hard
>>740908564Arts proficiency makes them fun to fight because you have more ways to keep a combo going. As samurai, I didn’t really bother with ninja.
>>740911550Elaborate, does it not have any revealing female sets?
>>740910645why the japs always makin their historical figures in to sexy women
>>740881503>>740879675I played 1kat and never needed to flux/pulseI only leveled stamina which is also 1kats damage boosting stat.Built like a katana, functions like a tower shield.I... regretted not having health if I got grabbed(I did)The snake boss was the hardest fight in the game for me for this reason.
What's wrong with Nioh 3's story unironically?
>>740914158takeda shingen mogs dio and kunimatsu to hell and back, and hes done with after act 1
It's Nioh. Three!
>>740914158The story in the Nioh games as presented through cutscenes are very much disjointed, players are expected to be able piece things together themselves either by already knowing Japanese history and folklore, or at least by reading the glossaries provided in game. Naturally however if you don't like reading, you're not going to understand much of what's going on.
>>740908387>and human enemies have always been the weaker bunch to fight in these gamesHuman bosses not included, I assume.
>>740914158It's a heavy retread of 2's story but worse.
>>740915857one of the problems is your waifu takes a character slot in each era and its literally the same woman, and at least Hiruko is OC, and probably most of her forms. Nioh 2's strength was most of the names it threw out casually speaking were real people and stylized effectively
>>740908387>and human enemies have always been the weaker bunch to fight in these games.Not in Nioh 1. Definitely in Nioh 2 and i'd say, at least in NG, they really put up a fight in 3, you can still destroy them but I feel like at a baseline they're way more aggressive and have way more ki at a base line and you don't have yokai skills to bail you out and crush them.
>>740916406I’ll admit Nioh 1 human bosses are coked up murder monkeys that will rip you a new asshole. Nioh 2 dialed them back but can still be a nuisance depending on their weapon. Nioh 3 I never had any issue with them save for exactly 2. The legendary archer man you have to than gauntlet to get to, and the traitorous cousin who seemingly ignores most human fight mechanics.
>>740916834I just like that in Nioh 3 you really need to get a lot of use out of the mechanics if you want to defeat them, compared to Nioh 2 where yokai skills do most of the work.I'm hoping the humans get even better in DLC/NG+'s.
Is it worth farming and doing builds in Dream of the Strong or should I just go to the next NG++? This endgame is kinda confusing
>>740917136Shouldn't really need to stop and farm in any of the NG+ cycles. Also Strong is the base game's NG+ that didn't add much, iirc the next NG+ cycle is where there's new shit.
>>740917136blaze through it as fast you can.
>>740917032I mainly used yokai skills in 2 to prolong combos and a handful are great to save you from grabs, on top of some of them having good passives. I like them more compared to the spirit skills which are hard locked to just 2 per guardian and they aren’t exactly equally good.
>>740917136builds aren't necessary yet, just continue playing for now. personally didnt get invested into build making until the underworld unlocked
>>740917505They aren’t necessary but people have probably figured out some game breaking combinations yet. I had a near deathless build despite TN trying to nerf life on Amrita absorption
>2kat?>bwahahahaha >2kat!!!???!!!?!>rookie mistake lol
Anyone else excited for Wo Long 2 or just me? Did people really not like the first game or something? Personally I like the Fall of the Han/Three Kingdoms as much as I do the Sengoku Jidai as a setting and I'm curious to see if they'll make Cao Cao take on more of a villainous role, the first game ends after Guandu so I get the feeling he might be an antagonist but this is KT and they love to glaze Cao Cao so who knows.
>>740918004i just cant into chinese, sifu ive finally started and its super comically ethnic and still only barely passes
Need a nioh monster hunter so bad
>>740918268Smash Nioh, Tokiden, and Wild Hearts together and they’ll have created the perfect autism simulator for me.
>>740918004i am hyped but given how bad nioh 3 was im not expecting the game to be good
>>740918268That's more or less what Tokiden is
>>740918004Wo Long 2 might be amazing and it's literally just based on 10 seconds of footage. Wo Long was already reallly good, underrated, and misunderstood. I definitely wanted a sequel but didn't expect one and the new clips show that wo long will feature air parries, more air focused combat, and the ability to shove enemies around into walls or other enemies. Also possibly a bit more depth with the parry system, but that just might be hopium>>740918483Nioh 3 isn't bad
I keep seeing people recommend an even stat distribution of 20 to everything. Is that really the way to do it? My minmax autism doesn't like that
>>74091934220 to all stats is fine and since the max level right now is 300 you will still have plenty left over for your main damage stat s
who's the strongest nioh protagonist?
>>740922064Hide, by a country mile. That yokai blood in his veins is practically cheating.
>Rise of the Ronin's parry button is different than its block buttonamazing how one simple small mistake can make me drop a game
>>740922327no way you need to commit to a parry and not just mash it like nioh 3?
I went back to Wo Long and beat Lu Bu second try compared to my first playthrough where it took 2 hours. What a fun fight still remembered his attacks. I kinda wanna get back into Nioh 3 but I don't have enough space for it, I'm tired of all games being 100+ GB.
>>740922327I unironically like this game for its assassin's creed elements more than the gameplay. The setting and characters are kino but the parryslop is lame as fuck
>>740905106As much as I'd love to see a Nioh-like with a new setting, I can't really be excited about it as it would have guaranteed shitty performance and poor enemy variety that the second game would have to remedy
>>740923624Frankly I wouldn't too bothered by that so long as they use the enemy variety better than they did in Nioh 3. Fucking Gaki, Dwellers, and those pig men were overused and even the new Yokai were barely in it.
>>740922064Hide is literally the ryu Hayabusa of nioh
