$3bn studio, $250m game, killed Destiny as a franchise and still under 400k copies sold.
I have anti Marathon fatigue
YoDEI sold that much?
>>740879972>might beSony is doing an excellent job of hiding just how much of a colossal failure it is. Not only is Marathon alone 400M+ down the drain, Bungie is 3.6B on top of that. Imagine licherully burning 4 billion dollars, lamao.
they couldn't even sell a million copies of a licensed sports game? is sony going to be alright? this seems fucking dire
>>740881067>is sony going to be alright?they're going to be alright, but it says a lot when even a 6 bazillion dollar company like Sony is even starting to take notice of billions being burnt on absolute failures. And some of them haven't even come out yet. Remember, Intergalactic Heretic aka bald space lesbian game? They didn't even dare to show a teaser or even a trailer at the Direct. They for sure already dumped hundreds of millions into that one too.
>>740879972i can't believe kojima did it again
>>740879972Marathon is actually FUN tho
>>740879972literally impossible as Concord refunded everyone
>>740881369Don't forget that they are still planning to release Freegame$ they just changed the name.
What the fuck is Soros?
>>740881585I'm glad you're having fun anon.
>>740880869Without a PC port, even!>>740879972>Marathon sales haven't moved since launchGrim. And given we know PC is 70% of sales while Playstation/X-box are like 20/10% respectfully, that doesn't bode well for Bungle first-party.
>>740882323SARRRos is the Returnal "spiritual sequel" which should've been canned and a Super Stardust HHD port to Steam done instead.
in b4 janny correctly deletes this marketing thread
>>740882660>no one is playing this co-op game and it's dying is a marketing thread
>>740880869>>740882559>release one game a year>that game does wellBold strategy.
Marathon has interesting lore, but there's no way to explore it without getting rattedsame with arc raidersi wish they had a pve mode, i'll take less xp
>>740880869Snoys really have no standards
>>740879972DS2 did that poorly? People really are tired of movie games.
>>740882883Snoys have no games, so they play whatever they can.
I didn't even know they had a free period that ended today. I would have tried it but I didn't see a single 4chan post about it lol. Not that I enter marathon threads.
>Sons of Sparta came out already>It flopped and suckslol what
>>740880767awesome, this makes you maracuck tears even more delicious
how the fuck saros outsold marathon lmao
>>740884034>>740883298(this)
>>740884034The chart is just tracking PS5 games sold, not PC. Saros only released on PS5, so it's not surprising it's beating Marathon.The numbers are still disasters for both games, though.
>>740883298>>740882883>>740880869If you're a kusony player, what else recently out are your options? Look at that list. I think it's also hillarious that they had some far left fucks who boycotted the game because they fired some staff for being completely insane on social media.
>>740884905>SaarosI still can't get over this name.
>>740885697I think it's clear that nobody at whatever studio made the game browses 4chan. Or if someone did, he was based enough to see the team naming the game Saros, knew what memes would come out of it, and kept his mouth shut for the lulz
>Marathon sells 347k copies on PS5>PS5 is confirmed to be only 20% of the salesYes anon, it in fact did not even sell 400k copies. So true.>bigger disaster than ConcordDid Concord also sell 300k on PS5 alone? That's news for me. Cope harder kek.
>>740879972was a hater but gave it a chance during free week.still a hater. the extraction shooter pvp trend is a blight on FPS.i'm still convinced this game should have been an FPS RPG like cyberpunk/fallout/starfield. co-op along with that would have been insane.
>>740886907How's OP coping? >under 400k sales on home platform>under 2m sales total>55m in sales for 250m budget>plus 3.6b studio acquisition cost>plus 400b that sony paid for concord because of Bungie telling them to.>plus the other live service cancellations because Bungie told them to.Bungie cost sony upwards of 5b, and marathon is all they have to show for it. Yeah it's a bigger disaster than concord, and always will be, because concord's failing was another bungie failing.
>>740889202Marathon might be a bigger financial flop than Concord (even if you ignore the $3.6b Bungie cost), but Concord launching to sub-700 people on Steam then dying in two weeks is flopkino the likes of which you see once or twice a decade.
>>740880869dude its the only fucking game in the console
>>740885697>>740886592They have subcontractors like Kurpa Hosk on Marathon who literally post here. They have "sensitivity readers" who's entire goddam job it is to avoid controversy with shit like this.It's clearly a case similar to AC shadows where those people do nothing but possbily make shit worse.
>>740890834Hey, Kurpa Hosk anon. I love your singleminded autism for bringing that marketing firm up in every one of these threads.>ACShadowsI still feel like it was an inside job to ruin the company. Maybe Tecent had a few Manchurian Candidates or just bribed a bunch of people.
>>740889495>>740889202The Bungie saga of fucking up ALL the liveservice games is the true epic tale here. Concord is more than just kino. It's a signpost. It's a legend. It's shaped gaming dev since. The journalists still don't even know what to call it. My favorite is "the curse of concord".This isn't just once per decade. This is ET class. This is bigger than Daikatana or virtual boy.
>>740889495>the likes of which you see once or twice a decade.a flop like Concord has actually never been seen before in entertainment. it's completely historic.~8 years in development. ~$400M budget. lasted for two weeks. can't even play it anymore.there is no single piece of entertainment media that has hit these marks. even movies that blew this much money or production time are still watchable. even E.T. still runs on an atari 2600 or you can emulate it.
>>740890994You have fuckers, either some combination of idiot or shill themselves who say "nobody cares, nobody shills here, nobody knows what's going on here", and in this specific case you have a company with their own website proudly listing the services they do, which include monitoring the haters here to protect your brands. It's similar to shareblue in that regard. When the next major, obvious shill company gets relevant, I'll switch to them.>ACShadowsEven saboturers coudln't be that effective. A full spectrum AAAA failure.
>>740879972>PS5 copies soldThis is why they don't make multiplayer games exclusive. I imagine playstation owners would simply play cowadoody instead, either warzone for free or buy the newest one.
>>740891014I wouldn't say Bungie fucked up Destiny so much as they just spent too much money making it. The game was fine and had ups and downs like any live game, but if it was so jank and broken, it wouldn't have run for as long as it did. Concord was more a canary in the coal mine for 'uh guys, I think this live service thing actually isn't going to work..', and then Marathon was the confirmation; a AAA budget live service flop that got embarrassed badly by its older, forgotten brother (D2). That's why so many people are hovering like vultures over Marathon on SteamDB/SteamCharts; Marathon failing is an industry wide signal that both AAA and the live service model are not practical to chase.>>740891274I would put Concord on the shelf next to ET and (at launch) TOR because of just how a spectacular fuckup it was. ET is the most known/most infamous of the three, but Concord was clearly the largest financial cockup.
snoy games are all terrible
>>740879972oof. i like my ps5 and sony but these are rough numbers. they're missing somebody like shu yoshida with actual taste to curate their first party offerings because a lot of these duds are completely predictable to people who actually enjoy video games
>DS2 with 1.7 million soldThis is really, really bad lolAre Kojimatards the loudest minority in gaming?
>>740880869Fake sales astroturfed ESG Sweetbaby Inc
>>740879972I was about to mock this chart by asking how you "sell" copies of a free game, only to double check and find out Marathon isn't a F2P game. It's whaled up so hard with shop items and season pass shit I figured it was the Fortnite approach.
>>740891354The unforgivable thing is that they didn't follow it up, either with Destiny 3, or some game that would actually appeal to those fucks. They had decades to figure that out. And it wasn't a pressure cooker team extraction shooter.
>>740891354i have concord on the 'shelf of shame' next to dustborn and veilguard in my collection loli was really looking forward to putting Marathon next to them but i think Sony knew it was going to be a fuckup since there's no physical copies whatsoever. even the collector's edition for consoles just comes with a keycode.
>>740879972That God of War game probably made is money back and then some lmao.Still confused how the development budgets of these 2 spinoff games was swapped.
>>740880869Turns out real life is in fact not the /v/ circlejerk grummz twitter feed echochamber that you think it is. Who would have thought?
>>740891539i legitimately don't understand how anyone can stand to pay for a game that has in-game purchases, that's just a level too far for me
am I the only one who decided to play marathon from all these threads mocking itby which I mean the original game for the macintosh, not this nonsense
>>740880869>once again /v/ is astonished its a niche of a nichemany such cases.
>>740879972>combined still can break 10 million salesSO this is the power...of a soon 100m installbase... At least half of those are dead systems not being used at all.
The six gorillionTotal Woke Death
>>740879972Man, Hermen Hulst really blew his fucking head off with cancelling PC ports, huh? They needed any fucking money they could scrape from sales at this point.
>>740879972How come there was 0 marketing for that GoW game? I heard practically nothing about it.
>>740891580What a mentally unstable being you are.
>>740891571>they didn't follow it upBungie allegedly asked Sony a few times, even as far back as before Final Shape released, to make D3, and Sony told them 'No.'>>740891580I really wish I could've gotten a Concord shirt or something. I'd wear it in public and be proud doing so.
>>740892023He sounds plenty stable to me, from what I see online only actual schizos play this shit.
>>740892023More stable than the people who greenlit that shit for literally billions.
>>740892023lol, they were on sale. dustborn collector's edition was like $20. failguard $8.Concord i paid full price for but that's rare enough to justify and it might become a collector's item someday. worst case, i wasted $40 in what i would have spent on steam sales or booze.
>>740892590It's not about the money it's about decorating your place with stuff you obsessively hate.I bet you have posters of trannies you hatefap too as well.
>>740891354TOR still exists. It did well enough to support itself, it's nowhere near Concord despite tortanic memes and despite is being a generally shitty game.
>>740880869It came with my ps5 so I didn't have a choice. I got bored before killing any lord after the tutorial one.
>>740892720>obsessively hateIt's three bad games that died to laugh at. It's a shrine to mirth. "Obsessively" nothing.
>>740891839Still haven't seen genuine fans of this. Only bots on here and social media posting walking clips or screenshots.
>>740892761>TOR still existsThat's why I said 'at launch.' Yeah, TOR eventually became profitable because Star Wars fans are the dumbest goy motherfuckers walking the earth, but at launch it was such a clusterfuck that EA deactivated the unsubscribe button and called it a 'glitch' FFS. It was a wild time.
>>740880869/v/ lost
>>740892720that stuff sits on a shelf next to other shit i don't care about in the garage. to each their own if you like decorating your place with trannies.also got one of these in honor of the Titan. it's all part of video game history whether you like it or not.
>>740892908Yeah but if it was a Concord-level flop EA would almost certainly not even have had the players to try to lock in to their subs. It was a massive stuble at launch but ET and Concord murdered studios and ET even murdered the gaming sphere for a bit.
>>740893191>got this in honor of the TitanBased. I just rewatched a bunch of those Oceangate videos on Youtube, what a fucking mess!
>>740880767I've had that a month agoI can't believe they're still doing this
>>740880869And on a tiny $50m budget
>>740879972>90 million ps5s and barely even 5m bought bought the top game exclusives right guys?lollmaorofl
>>740879972Marathon is a 1st Party Sony game, most of its install base is on steam. Why do they care if people are buying it on PS5 or Steam the money still goes to them regardless and crossplay still works
>>740893262yeah. when i saw on the news about how they might be trapped, lost and without control of the Titan for days, i was thinking it must be absolute fucking hell inside that thing if they were still alive.luckily their death was quick and most likely painless from what investigation found, unless there's been more discovered since i last checked out info on the incident.
>>740880767I have shit game fatigue so maybe stop making them
>>740893831Who is forcing you to discuss it?
>>740891726I played both. Gave up on Classic Marathon on that vacuum level. It wasn't difficult, just annoying. Watched the rest on YouTube (terminal entries included) and felt like I missed out on nothing.
>>740880869it came off a well-liked game so yesthe next ghost game will perform worse as a result of this one
>>740893856Who is forcing YOU? >>740880767So quick to be a hypocrite.
>>740879972Those are fake numbers for Ghost of Yotei.
>>740893958>didn't answer the questionThanks for conceding.
Was Yotei a pack-in?
>>740879972Forget Marathon, who are these mysterious 4.8m people who supposedly bought Yotei? I've never met one person who bought that game.
>>740894043Anon, who forced you to post "I have anti-Marathon fatigue" in this thread? Practice what you preach.
>>740880869tons of people bought Assassin's Creed Unity because it was a strong franchise.Syndicate right after sold like shit.Won't be surprised if the next GoT game is a financial flop as a result of Yotei, if there is a next GoT game.
>>740881585Not fooling anyone. It just had a free weekend, everyone knows the game is shit now
>marathonfags so desperate they now have to resort to just shutting conversation downplaystation fans deserve to suffer
>>740894116presumably people who enjoyed Tsushima and weren't keeping up with the utter cringefest they were going to receive.
>>740891384First game sold a lot off Kojimbos name and hype. People played first game and didnt showed up for second one because they didnt like it. Thats it really. Amount of Kojima cocksuckers is smaller day by day as even this board stopped posting le creatividad meme threads or anything about his games really. Its clear that guy just wants to make movies but making games is all he knows.
>>740894384This is why companies will never change. Ignorant morons will still buy their shit in droves.
>>740893573The moment I heard the 'they haven't reported back in over an hour,' I knew they were paste. The 'what the fuck was that CEO doing' moment was the cylindrical pressure vessel (a huge red flag for the depths he wanted) and the double whammy of him using carbon fiber. The retard wanted to larp as Musk, but did it on a Temu budget. At least the memes were funny, and the innocent people on the sub died so fast their brains wouldn't have even be able to process the pain of being liquefied.
>>740880869I mean what else are you gonna play on your PS5?
>>740891649>>740891735more like most sony-ggers are tranny faggots
>>740879972Wtf I thought that ninja game flopped, nobody talks about it. Interesting chart.
>>740891384I wanted to play it, but Sony had other plans.
>>740880869Its third person cinematic experience sloppa Sony players love anon. Look at that chart and overall sales of Sony first party games lol. All that sells are third person cinematic experience samey titles. 5 million with over 90 million consoles on the market is still dogshit attachment rate since shit like Donkey Kong,Pokopia or Tomodachi all sold 5 million + but there are 20 million bingtendos on the market so attachment rate to first party content for tendies is a lot higher.
>>740894809same thing happened with paper mario - sticker star sold well because people thought they were getting paper mario, and then the next game bombed because they knew they weren't. give it time.
>>740894829>cylindrical pressure vessel (a huge red flag for the depths he wanted) and the double whammy of him using carbon fiberi think on top of that they also re-used that vessel after it already had problems too, didn't they? or they did no maintenance/inspections on it between runs... i can't remember but yeah its like seeing a trainwreck in slow motion watching all that stuff that lead up to the implosion
>>740880869Karen of War feat. Quirky Chungus Cube will also sell that well despite the bad press because snoyfags have literally nothing to play and because Ragnarok was well received overall
>>740895754The problem with carbon fiber is that it weakens over repeated dives, so the possibility of a catastrophic failure (like what happened) increases. I don't think normal metal has those issues, but you would still inspect everything and have pre dive checklists and all that. The whole sub was a mess. Even the front view port was only rated to like half the depth the sub was going to, so if the carbon fiber hull didn't fail, the front window could've, among a bunch of other failure points. Even in the very polite interview 60 Minutes Australia did with James Cameron about it, Cameron basically called the Oceangate CEO the world's biggest retard for how he handled the sub's design.
>>740889202>plus 3.6b studio acquisition costyeah that wasn't solely for marathon>plus 400b that sony paid for concord because of Bungie telling them tohow is this relevant?>plus the other live service cancellations because Bungie told them toagain, hardly related to marathon>Bungie cost sony upwards of 5bthank you for clarifying that half of your message isn't even about marathon>Yeah it's a bigger disaster than concord, and always will be, because concord's failing was another bungie failingmarathon is a bigger disaster because concord was bungie's call?
>>740880869Though Tsushima sold 5 million by month four. This is barely at 5 million at month 8, plus the $70 vs $60 volume differences. Still, this is having a longer tail than I expected despite the "strong" hate campaign against it. Online really is a bubble, in most cases.
>>740898000>yeah that wasn't solely for marathonit was for "live service expertise", which makes it even fucking worse considering literally and not figuratively every single operational decision they've made since the acquisition has backfired explosively.
>>740898114Yotei underperformed and fell off, just like TLOU2 did. Sony hides it by clever marketing tricks and selective reporting, but since the Yotei devs cancelled a planned DLC or had a way lighter post launch content plan, there's your proof it sold a lot worse.Always look at what a company does, not what it says.
>>740891649YouTube dislikes are the closest barometer we have to online-real life influence as it is the most neutral and normie-friendly platform. Saw many a dislike on nearly every Yotei video up to and after launch. It ought to have some impact on its sales tale and it is $70, making it much of a louder success than it apparently is.Because this was the most pushback we ever gave a company, our most concentrated vest shot and we still lose?? Good luck buddy, we can forget trying to change the industry back to the way it was.I really then can't wait to see the box office The Odyssey will have, with my logic.
Destiny was doing just fine dying under the weight of being it's own shit game.let's not get it twisted. marathon might be stank but it's not responsible for D2 dying. D2 itself it.
>>740883298>snoys have no games>so they play THESE gameswhat did he mean by this?
>>740895050>All that sells are third person cinematic experience samey titlesCase in point, Bond is still at the top of the charts, over COD, over Fortnite, for WEEKS. It is selling extremely, extremely well on PS5. Most major releases barely top COD for a few days or even a week. I don't think Yotei did.
>>740898114Tsushima also came out during the COVID, June 2020.
>>740898309>Though Tsushima sold 5 million by month four. This is barely at 5 million at month 8, plus the $70 vs $60 volume differences>Yotei underperformed and fell off, just like TLOU2 didYeah we weren't really disagreeing. I was just giving my own reasons for it not selling as much. Though rarely do sequels outpace or outdo their predecessors (Tears of the Kingdom, GOWR, Horizon 2)
>>740898000Marathon is the only project bungie has launched since their acquisition, unless you want to count D2 expansions which all outsold marathon. It is relevant because concord would not have happened without bungie. It was bungie devs who only got 400m from sony because bungie told sony to spend it. Sony would not have spent 400m on concord if bungie didn't convince them it was a prudent decision. Bungie told sony to cancel the naughtydog gaas because it directly competed with marathon. Bungie tried to sabotage HD2 because they thought it would compete with marathon. Sony bought bungie specifically for their "live service expertise." The culmination of that expertise is a half dozen failed or cancelled games, and 5b spent with only marathon to show for it. Yes, concord was bungie's call, and marathon continues to cost sony over 5m every month, which they need over 125k full price sales on PS only to break even. At current pricing, platform division, platform cuts, etc. Marathon needs 700k sales each month to break even.
>>740898907Yup. So even with one arm tied behind its back, at a lower price, and being an unknown, untested IP, it is doing swimmingly well against Yotei at this point in time, aligned.
>>740879972concord sold 25k copies across all platforms, marathon is fine
>>740899454it will sell 2.5 million copies before the year ends but /v/ will find a way to cope with its success
>>740880869>Sold wellLol, lmao even. This game was supposed to be outselling Tsushima early on, what happened? 4.8 million in 9 months >>740879972 vs Sushi's 6.5 million over the same period for an established IP? KEKARO!
>>740883905it was literally shadowdropped when it was announced?i remember being mad about it not releasing on PC but turns out they just hired some noname indie studio and the game is bad and buggy as shit
>>740899840sequels rarely do better than the original. I don't think they're sweating over that. A real failure would be a ratio of 5 to 1 or something like that. Here they're close
>1+ free week>on sale during all week>day 1-2 the servers shit themselves and have to do 10~ hours of maintenance right during season 2 start>buy ads front page steam and probably console platforms too(nobody plays it there anyways)>marketing retards don't tell people deluxe pack($14 bucks) doesn't include the base game>have to give them the base game + deluxe for 14 bucks to avoid bad press but lose tons of cash>still can't break 2mil sales>all this for a 3k player bump which will soon disappear.>kill Destiny 2>Destiny 2 currently has 8 times more players than your only game being developed>4+ more months until Season 3>PvE only exists as a concept even though they have 800 developers that cost $193 million dollars a year to keep employed in a fancy Washington buildingGRIM
>>740900848>4+ more months until Season 3Did it get delayed? Season 3 should be coming in 3 months.
>>740881067Sportshitheads are BROKE!
>>740899454Concord sold just under 70k, anon.>Marathon will be fineBeing in the red by $300m or more isn't 'fine.'
>>740879972Death Stranding bros ww@
Ghost of Yotei was a good game. The cope in this thread is fun to read
>>740881067Baseball has been circling the drain even more than usual lately, I doubt the interest is there. I used to consider myself a big baseball fan and all last season I only watched half of one game and it was the season opener. It’s also not exclusive to PS anymore but idk how well it sells on other platforms.
>>740903051>+1 vial has been deposited to your HRT accountAt least I hope so, the possibility that anyone would do this for free is terrifying.
>>740903051>>740903482You butt hurt cretins are SO funny!
>>740891649Yeah, it rose up above thousands, nay hundreds, dozens even, dare I saw a magnificent handful of games to defeat the chud.
>>740903051It was a mediocre game, bordering on good, but held back by the shameful antics of the insane parody of a woman they had play the lead character.
>>740903957is this based on something in the game or are you an animal who is seething at tweets she made
>>740904128It's an opinion formed after seeing her repeatedly embarrass herself by acting like an ape during different public appearances, on top of her useful idiot/Seattle liberal retard opinions. It just diminishes the quality of the game.
>>740894049yeah. Holiday too
>>740880869My old jap friends with a ps5s bought it because there's nothing else.
>>740879972SAAAAAAAROS
>>740903957It was a good game. You haven't even played it. Retard.
>>740902580>crickets...
