>"yeah so basically all the problems the world faces are due to these literally invisible cheeky guys and no we can't name them simply naming them is a death sentence but through advanced esoteric means that most of the time will just flat out fucking kill you or drive you to insanity we can - maybe - be able to resolve the problem."The DUMBEST plot
>>740897346Rev is pointless and ruins the whole decision, but if it just has to exist, it'd need a significant rewrite.
>We made two separate games for all the people with bad ideas to ruin so we could turn Conquest into a 10/10
>>740897346I really want to read the original script
>>740897346ok that's nice and all but YOOOOUUUUU ARE THE OOOOOOCEAN'S GREY WAAAAAAAAAAAVES
>>740897894That stupid bitch should drown herself in those waves.
>>740897346Fates had so many cool concepts. There was a Dawn Dragon that many believed was gonna be the final boss in Conquest instead of Takumi.
>>740897346I don't even remember its name
>>740898069Every time I play Conquest I think it's so weird that the final boss is an archer with a haxbow instead of the typical dragon/demon/big monster
Takumi is based, I like him and he is just like me
You mean you were paying attention to the story rather than just shipping the Hoshidans and Nohrians?
uhm takumi is a little BITCH and I'm glad he's dead
>>740898435
>>740898328I'm not sure if I've ever played that map legitimately. I always do the rescue strategy to one-turn it.
>>740898328that's why conquest is a shitty route
>>740898761The ninja chapter is also impossible without the hardest hardcounter build that you have to plan for before you even start a new game.
>>740897832Didn't they get some mangaka for it? Maybe he has some fantasy series so you'd get an idea of how his writing is
>>740898870It's really not that hard to make a Corrin that just wins the 1v1, a bunch of ways to do that, but yeah the late game maps go overboard into puzzle game territory
>>740897346>basically all the problems the world faces are due to these literally invisible cheeky guys and no we can't name them simply naming them is a death sentenceJust like real life.
>>740898328I liked Takumi. It’s unironically subversion done right. You don’t fight a dragon or god or whatever the fuck, you fight your retarded brother that let himself get corrupted by his retardation. And he just comes out of nowhere and assrapes you in the most bullshit final boss stage ever designed. Somehow it ended up working out for me. The game already has two other dragon boss fights anyway, did we really need a third?
>>740897894>ok that's nice and all but IIIIIIII MUST CONSUUUUUUUUUUME MY WEEB SLOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>740898069>Fates had so many cool concepts. Yet it forgot the concept of being a good game. Interesting!
>>740898435The fuck was up with all those comedy videos using him 10 years ago?
>>740897819They really should do this again considering those people with bad ideas now just want to turn the series into a generic JRPG.
hello can anyone give me some protips for what to do in my lunatic awakening run? this is my current roster. I watched most of the video someone linked in the last thread and I don't think I can apply most of it because I'm doing an autism run, but the gist of it that I got is that I need 2 defensive pair ups and 2 offensive pair ups and then the rest unpaired support characters. right now I have sallya I guess for a magic tank and I think I can use selena as my physical tank once I recruit her, but I don't know who to pair anyone with. I can use miriel for sallya but I was planning on benching her later to make room for other characters and everyone else seems too useful to turn into a backpack.
>>740902975for the record my run conditions are>only chrom, robin, and cute girls allowed (sperm donors for children only as backpacks and only until s support is reached)>try to avoid juggernauting>only one of each weapon allowed and no forging>fixed growths>no durability
>>740902975Holy fuck those are some garbage stats. What are those, level 10 promotions? You're about to get hard filtered by Valm if you don't pare down your roster. That Cordelia was bad 3 chapters ago.
>>740903261I promoted everyone at level 11 because someone said there was no reason not to promote early in this game. I just played the first valm chapter but it took 4 hours of retrying.
>>740903383Yeah, retarded advice. For some reason Awakening is the game everyone feels like they should comment on, even though nobody's played it in 10 years. A lot of people apply already tenuous Fates logic to it, when it's a very different game.You need to be lowmanning more or you're going to keep struggling.
>>740903557what does late promoting get me since you have infinite room to level with second seals? what level should I be compared to map enemies?
>>740903836In and of itself, you can't say a late promotion is good or bad in Awakening. The important thing is to not spread exp too thin. There's a sharp falloff in exp once a unit promotes, and if they promote too early they will feel this more harshly. This tends to retard the unit's growth unless you feed them A LOT of kills to compensate.Units are exp hungry in Awakening Lunatic, you can't afford to feed all of them equally and fairly or invest lightly in your carries. You need to pick a few and make them into fattened-up juggernauts that can withstand the onslaught of sheer stats coming at you. Then fill out the remaining slots with support units like Libra and Anna.
>>740904442that sounds gay I'd rather waste my time farming bandit encounters to level up everyone. what level should I target for it to be beatable but not too easy?
>>740904701figure it out
>>740897346>The King of Nohr has been replaced by a weird slime monster>We need to invade Hoshido so we can get the King to sit on Hoshido's magic throne which will reveal him as a Slime Monster>We also need to kill whoever the Slime Monster tells us to kill so we don't blow our cover
>>740890290I watched this whole video. Good watch. I really like this guy's attitude toward the game, and he clearly knows his shit. I appreciate the way he expounded on the extreme value of a lot of the skills, like Dual Support+. Some of his ideas for using units surprised me too, like the priest>war cleric Kellam idea. That's crazy!
>>740897819will never understand this meme, the entirety of fates is ass. ended up dropping conquest like 20 levels in, even awakening was more fun
>>740897894The song's much better in nip
>>740902392Just pretend it's about the struggles of being Latinx in Amerikkka or whatever soiteens like instead.
>>740899242The mangaka have falling out with Isis so much that his manga adaptation was cancelled
>>740905429Play Lunatic and you'll see.
>>740897346on top of all of that, they had to make sure neither of the other two routes addressed ANY of the real causes behind all the conflict because, "gotta save the TRUTH for MUH DLC"it's unreal how much potential a proper two route FE game where you chose one side of two opposing factions could have, BUT THEY JUST KEEP FUCKING DOING 3+ ROUTES THAT THEY LACK THE ABILITY TO DO PROPERLY. Even RD couldn't resist trying to do three factions.
all of the fire emblem stories are mid
Filtered, Rev is peak
been wanting to replay Fates so bad. crazy games, but they were a highlight of the late 3ds era. We actually had it good back then, and this game has so much content
>>7409063383DS in general was a peak we'll never see again. I can name 10 games so fucking good I could play them forever.
>>740897346i should replay conquest does the ayn thor play it yet.
>>740897819Conquest is also retarded.
>>740902975>>740903256Besides what I can already see there, what other pairings are you planning on doing, and what children do you want to use? You have some good setups there. Lissa, Miriel and Mairbelle are primed to be your support/staff bitches. Chrom, Robin, Sumia and Cordelia all look like decent combatants. Since you moved her to archer anyway, you could do something like the video described for Lon'qu for your Anna, since her high luck = good avoid. Cherche has decent combat stats compared to your other units besides speed, so you could fix that with a pair up and use her that way instead of making her another support bitch. Her having swordbreaker would be useful later, because swords are the most accurate weapons in the game, and they're usually in skilled hands. Also, yeah, early promo is the way to go in Awakening, because picking up good skills is the name of the game. Everyone has insane growths, stats barely matter in the long run.
>>740906148You can tell a game's story is really bad when the only way to defend it is to try and throw the entire series under the bus. Aka the Engaygie speciality.
>>740902975Why would you make your first playthrough a challenge run on the hardest difficulty?I get jumping straight to Lunatic but wouldn't you actually want to make sure you can beat it normally before adding a bunch of weird challenge stipulations?This isn't even me lecturing you right before the final boss. You're like a 1/3rd of the way through.
Fire emblem fates except cowmillas tits are 3x bigger and actively leaking
>>740907153my desired roster is what I have + lucina, morgan, selena, and say'ri and benching miriel and sumia if deployment slots are too limited. I just have no clue what to do about pair ups since it seems like they are critical to close the stat difference with the enemies but I didn't plan them out at all.
>>740897819yeah they need to split the games again. permanently, so all this "FE should be like X" autism can be contained
>>740897346Fates was dumb as fuck, I understand them improving the imbalanced mess that Awakening was but that shit made FE's writing in general look good
>>740906148They are mid but Fates is especially bad
>>740908012They already fucking do that. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Engage and 3H were Conquest 2 and Birthright 2.
>>740902975Always try and not kill an enemy, try and get chip exp onto multiple units. If a unit can survive one round then they should take a hit on enemy phase always. Support bonuses are op so make sure that you try and get as many supports going with your active units. Forging a wind tome is great for wyvern riders and is cheap. Spam staffs on Lissa and Marribel, reclass Lissa to peg knight and just promote Marribel. Don't early promote or you will fuck yourself with exp gain, if you don't want a character stuck in a class then reclass at 10-12 so you get more easy exp levels. Donnel is op as fuck and after just 4-5 level ups, which you can easily do in his join chapter if you surround each archer and just let him whack them without a pair up, he can then tank hits from bandits with steel axes, if his speed is too low then buy a speed tonic or give him a pair up that boosts it. As long as you leave combat with more than one hp then everything is fine. Do not be afraid of high turn counts, I sometimes finish maps with 80+ turns just to use forts for healing in the early game or to let shitters get chip exp. If an enemy wont kill anyone you can leave him alive so a weak character can slowly kill him. Do not funnel all your exp into one or two characters, you need to be more conservative with exp. I suggest reclassing Robbin, Vaike and Gregor into Barbarians for the chance to proc a free gold bullion on kill, a few of those can easily help with a massive forge or to buy a great Anna item. Try and not to gain too much speed, you do not want to be doubling the enemies because that massively reduces exp, similarly try to never one round an enemy unless they are a direct threat.
>>740908232That's not the same at all, CQ and BR came out simultaneously. Doing a cycle of "gameplay game -> story game -> gameplay game" every 3 years just makes people angry.
>>740908521They don't come out simultaneously because these games are obviously too big to be developed simultaneously anymore. Also it's in Nintendo's interest to space out releases as much as they can so they would never do that again anyway outside of Pokemon. The underlying philosophy is still the same though: one game for the social sim/matchmaking fans, one for the strategy fans.
>>740908375I don't get how effective damage is supposed to work. I try using my wind tome on robin against fliers but it does the exact same damage as the thunder tome.
>>740907908Lucina and Severa can be decent tanks because of Aether, and Severa can get Sol. Morgan will be a decent magic nuke. Say'ri's biggest problem is the lack of supports. The thing about pair up partners is that it's a bit skewed. For example, berserker would be a great physical pair up with 5 STR 3 SPD, but anyone who can be berserker would not want to be a pair up bitch, so you kinda have to hedge your bets a little. Look for the classes that give 3+ in any of STR/MAG/SPD/DEF/RES, and the +MOV pair ups are always good.
>>740908664it remains to be seen since engage was an anniversary game, very """conquest 2"". They will go for what sells and ignore the strategy fans and you know it. That's why they are giving 3h another game after the spinoff instead of something new that could unite all the fans.
I'll take this over fortunes weave.
Cutesythea
>>740908784Effective damage is 3x the weapons damage, wind tomes have 1 damage and thunder has 3 so effective damage equals out. But if you forge a wind tome every single point on damage increase is actually 3 extra damage on effective targets. Wind tomes are the cheapest tomes so they are also the cheapest to forge, the same applies to Elwind, so forging wind tomes is a good idea as they are also very accurate already.
>>740897346They really should have just stuck to "dragons did it"
>>740908992I'm trying to map it out but I don't know what to do. I think I have too many attackers and too many characters that can't support with anyone. I don't have anyone besides robin with magic support to pair with sallya but it seems like a waste to stack both of my tome users. I also don't have a good def pair up for selena.
>>740911210forgot my masterpiece
>>740908784damage equals = (attack + w.might - defense) x bonuses x criteffective damage = (attack stat + w.might x 3 - defense stat) x bonuses x crit
Fire Emblem
>>740897346The Vallites are just the Jews
canon futa
>We captured the enemy nation, but not in a gay and "honorable" way, so we're going to release themFuck fates
>>740897819>Conquest>10/10mental illness
>>740913780from the start to like chapter 21 is still the most fun ive had in any FE gamethe classing and seal system are insane i could replay just that for 100s of hours
>>740902975>>740911210>sallya
>>740913780Fuck off, casual.
>>740908232Engage has more in common with 3H than Conquest.
>>740908521Well it makes tribalistic chimps with fried dopamine receptors angry.
>>740897346>has a seemingly infinite number of invisible zombies he can dump anywhere and completely bulldoze all of Fateslandia with>feels the need to play some weird game of subterfuge with Garon first
>>740897346Was Azura really the ideal advisor for Corrin?
>>740913637and it fucking happens twice.You and Xander decide to randomly go beat up Ninja ally just because he is holding Kagero captive.Then a few chapters later in Ryoma's boss chapter, your army kills Kagero lol
You wretched casuals better not be bringing up the story again. Are you fucking retarded? how many times are we going to go over this - Nobody. Fucking. Cares.
>>740915512the whole appeal of Fire Emblem is the characters and story.If there was no story and units were just nameless chess pieces on a grid, barely anyone would even glance at the series.
>>740915512>NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT THE STORY!Meanwhile in a parallel universe where Fates had a good story>I love Fates! It has 10/10 plot, 10/10 characters, 10/10 gameplay!
>>740915641if there was no story but characters still had support convos itd sell the exact same
>>740915760You do not believe this
>>740915760You still need story context for who these characters are and why you are fighting these battles
>>740915641okay why did it not die when it was literal fucking bits walking across green bits with copy pasted unit faces? It took until tellius to bomb and tellius is story as fuck.
>>740897346SEX WITH YOUR COUSIN WIFE
Sakura's ass
>>740915725I wouldn't know, I skip cutscenes in every game.
>>740915993...belongs to Elise. Corrin watches sometimes.
>>740916038Meanwhile in a parallel universe where Fates had a good story>Yeah I love the story. Up there with some of the greats.
>>740916038>always skips cutscenes>hates talking about anything but gameplayAverage Engage retard
>>740915918>Actually FE1 HAD no story or charactersMeanwhile in a parallel world where Fates had a good story, Anon would never say something like this. >>740916294He doesn't actually skip cutscenes. He's just mad people are criticizing Fates' terrible story and is trying to seem nonchalant and downplaying the importance of a story in an RPG.
>>740897346>Mystery niggas are behind everything but we can't you this because uhhhhh there's a totally real curse that will kill you if you mention them and this curse definitely exists even though we've never seen it affect anyone so unfortunately this incredibly simple solution can't be usedHow the fuck did this nonsense make it past the first draft?
I haven't looked at a cutscene in an FE game in at least 3 years
>>740916660I haven't looked at an FE game in at least 3 years
The reason I don't care for criticizing Fates story isn't because I think story doesn't matter, it's because it's a tired topic. You have nothing new to say that we haven't heard a million times over the past 10 years already. And its the same with Engage. It's unfortunate that these games didn't have better stories but at least their legacy lives on in being fun to play so that's what I prefer talking about.
>>740905429>even awakening was more funWe get it, you hate fire emblem
>>740900007I was about to say, this game sounds based
i will never forgive them for not letting us keep scarlet alive in revelation.fates has so many bullshit deaths, including for playable characters. I fucking hate it.Not even your fucking goldfish dragon makes it in 2/3 routes, it's so stupid.join smash really is the best ending.
>>740917293I don't know how IS keeps getting away with it.
>>740917498The concept of needing an A Support with Kaze in BR or he dies is honestly kinda cool, it's just the execution is poor and there's no in-universe logic behind it. Like imagine if the A-Support lead to him learning a new skill or obtaining some item and that's what actually ends up saving his life.
>>740917691Getting skills for supports would be absolute kino.
>>740917691I'm so fucking glad that I played birthright as female corrin with the intent to have them marry, because FUCK, I woulda been so fucking pissed if I found out the hard way about Kaze's avoidable death. I never found out til afterward that he could die there since I was going for him already.
>>740917831as a side note, i had no idea his kid was also named midori, and i also name my female characters midori, so that led to a hilariously weird "name's the same" situation, and now i call her midori jr.
>>740902276subversion is bad
>>740918306well her real name is midoriko
>>740916093>>740916294>>740916326You're completely wrong. For example, the battle animations in Fates are great, some of the best, but I always skip those too. I only care about the gameplay.
>>740915248I feel bad for the nigga on the left, he was genuinely confused by how retarded his allies were
>>740920092>real name
>>740897346Mmm gorn
>>740917543By having bad gameplay
Fire emblems been shit longer than its been good at this point
