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Can Doomguy really defeat a Space Marine?
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>>740899936
He can annihilate one, yes, but he needs help to be able to defeat incoming hundreds of them.
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>>740899936
doomguy is just the emperor on a sidequest while humanity was young, thats how the lore is supposed to be interpreted, since warhammer is a parody of all popular universes mashed together
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>>740899936
he could kill an infinite number of no-name marines yes
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>>740899936
warhammer is so gay that it depends on the name of the space marine
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Who wins?
Doom guy, or 30k Kharn?
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>>740899936
Not even a 40k fag but Doomguy would get shit canned by any generic marine
The demons in Nu-Doom are literally chaos cultist tier with even worse weapons
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>>740899936
Doomguy yes. nuDoom fuck no
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>>740900707
Why 30k Kharn? 30k sucks
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>>740899936
40kuck here, Doomgou would shit all over the entire Imperium singlehandedly
A single zombie in Doom is more dangerous than all Black Crusades combined
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>>740900707
depends on which HH is writing it
anyone other than ABD would have Doomguy win, cuz Kharn does tend to get shitfucked, like in the original trilogy where he gets hit by a land raider while fighting Garviel, a barely relevant captain with no special combat talents, but he is ABD’s special favourite so he’d make him win no matter what
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>Trannyhammer
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>>740900852
30k Kharn is basically just doom guy and 40k one i assume has warp powers.

idk i dont engage with warhammer anymore, and certainly never engaged with nudoom
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Warhammer power scaling is so retarded when you realize Reimu could disintegrate their entire shitfuck empire or whatever the fuck it is in less than a day. Fans who try to powerscale across franchises are so fucking retarded and insecure.
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>>740901328
>40k one i assume has warp powers.
Even though he's a warp entity Khorne usually keeps the warp fuckery to a minimum
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>>740901402
Pretty insecure of you to make this post
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>>740899936
doomguy is essentially a neophyte. unlike most other matchups, doomguy would not be immediately and ruthlessly obliterated on sight by the space marine.

theyre both on the same mission, same purpose, and at least nudoomguy is ALSO part of some religious order against the alien and demonic.

in short, the space marine would commend doomguys accomplishments and tell him to fight even harder to earn the power armor
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>which of these two highly inconsistent things...
yeah, would you like to know
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>>740899936
Yes. Space Marines are not as powerful as you think.
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>>740902275
space marines are bigger stronger doomguys in super strong armor you dumbass. in the game theyre just a normal unit due to balancing reasons but like 3 assholes get dropped into a dying planet and they turn the tide on their own. theyre crazy powerful. they get treated like literal savior angels for a reason
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>>740899936
Doomguy can kill literally anything, and he's essentially immortal. He is Superman and Goku level. Space Marines are very killable and entirely mortal.
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>>740902787
No they aren't. Doomguy is an actual demigod and not bound to this world, Space Marines are just genetically and cybernetically enhanced human beings.
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More likely yes than no. Power armour is fairly vulnerable to plasma weapons and Doomguy has two of them, one spectacularly devastating. The latter also moves faster.
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>>740899936
he's just a regular human, those are like enhanced cyborgs
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>>740899936
Even if Doomguy dies he just goes to hell/the warp and fights his way back out. That's partly where they fucked up the Doomguy fluff in Eternal and DA, in 2016 the general joke is all Doom and all Doom mods are canon because he can and die infinite numbers of times and just keeps going. Eternal and DA want him to be an unstoppable force of nature instead of just Groundhog Daying his way through everything. He's less fun as THE ULTIMATE BADASS MY FELLOW GAMERS instead of Columbine Doom being canon which works if he's gone insane dying and killing demons into infinity to the point he shoots up Columbine as a man denied his bunny and not heckin chungus in his space ship being nice to people
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>>740899936
I think it depends on the spess murhreen chapter.
Doomguy would fuck up some CSM.
He'd probably be pretty good bros with someone like the grey knights because they like killing demons almost as much as he does.
Doomguy vs Khorne, now that would be fun.
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>>740899936
I dunno, he croaks from like 3-6 melee attacks from basic bitch zombie gunmen on any difficulty higher than HNTR
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>>740905359
>CSM
Chainsaw Man?
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>>740907105
Cock-sans-nuts. He's saying Doomguy enjoys fucking those of the tranny persuasion
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>>740899936
Space Marines exist on a scale of random nobody tactical who just got out of the scout company of ultramarines successor #971 to ascended daemonic champions with godlike reality warping power. I think Doomguy could probably match up with high level named characters like Sigismund or Dante who have the sauce to jump into a battle and kill anything that isn't as strong as them, but beyond that you get into the kind of gay setting vs setting metaphysics that make power scaling so fucking lame these days.
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>>740900764
it's the opposite unc
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>>740899936
Yes. DOOM 2016, Eternal, and Dark Ages super buffs him.
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>>740902787
Marinefags actually believe this
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>>740900764
They're the same guy.
>B-but
It's canon.
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>>740899936
lol no.
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>>740907591
lol no
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hell no. a space marine would be a blur in front of him. he's not gonna touch them. anything saying otherwise is larping.
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>>740907105
How would Doomguy and Space Marines fare against the CSM devils?
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>>740899936
An astartes is the random wasteland thug to doomslayer kenshiro
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>>740908136
Once again, 4-5 normal fireballs or scratches from Imps on any difficulty higher than HNTR and he’s done for, so I’d say not well.
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>>740907326
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>>740908136
If you take max wank, they stomp most devils and it only gets dicey with Primal Fears. Doomguy with divinity machine hax shouldn't have much of an issue, while non named Astartes probably get fucked up.
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>>740907591
>It's canon.
Says who?
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>>740908247
>iddqd
heh, nothing personnel
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>>740908354
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>>740908354
Says me, the guy they modeled the original doomguy after.
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>>740908428
That's some random picture, not a human who was involved in making the two DOOM games saying that.
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>>740908063
A space marine cant outrun a rocket like the ORIGINAL Doomguy
and Doomslayer is pretty much a improved doomguy soo yeah he can kill then.
just look at how fast he is in Eternal...the only space marine that gets close is malum caedo...because his game is a doom rip off.

>>740900764
>>740907615
Man stop being retarded contrarian zoomer its just boring at this point and make you opinion worth nothing.
Doomslayer is the Doomguy /v/ hyped back in the day before Doom Eternal.You faggots getting mad at it is just hating /v/ own old ideas and just makes no sense.
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>>740899936
Doomguy is too angry to die.
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>>740899936
It a retarded comparison because one character is from a RPG setting and the other is from a video game but doomguy could probably beat the spacemarine if he blasted him with the bfg
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>>740908839
There are some action adaptations of 40k. Anyway, Doomguy doesn't need BFG because his regular plasma gun is like 10 times better than what they have in 40k.
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>>740899936
A no name tribal with a wooden stick managed to kill a space marine. They aren't that tough if they arent plotarmored to hell.
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>>740908698
>buzzword salad mixed with PMS
Neither of them but you write like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
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Considering he died resurrected and has touched the ruinous powers of Hell or whatever demon dimension I guess you'd call it void equivalent,

Yes... Id say Slayer is equivalent to a big shot Astarti maybe even a primaris, definitely superior to your average named character, kinda like Titus tier
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>>740899936
One Punch Man beats both
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>>740901975
>HELLO YOU!
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Why would they fight? They have the same enemy. Are Space Marines and the IOM so unhinged they would need only a minor insinutation to try and slaughter you?
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>>740910827
>Are Space Marines and the IOM so unhinged they would need only a minor insinutation to try and slaughter you?
Yes. Very much so.
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>>740900139
One vs Hundred of Hundred of enemies.
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>"hurr hurr who'd win in a fight"
Major counterpoint, why would they fight? If anything doomguy would be best friends with any faction that's not chaos affiliated or unreasonably hostile (dark eldar, tyranids/genestealers, the inquisition). He'd fit really in with Farsight's whole schtick, he'd be a mighty good Ultramarine, just look at Malum Caedo. Hell, he'd be a god-tier Salamander.
I'm sure if he paints himself green and adds some tusks to his helmet, he'd pass as an Ork nob, if not a warboss straight up.
Doomguy would fit in 40k pretty well, but the more pressing matter is how good would Doom's bestiary fit into 40k.
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>>740900764
Huh???? Half the point of Doom 1 and 2 is Doomguy is fragile as hell, but he's fast. He's a normal human, Doomguy proper would zip around at lightning speed but he's functionally an Imperial Guard infantryman and might not have better equipment than them, BFG and plasma gun notwithstanding
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>>740912421
>and might not have better equipment than them,
I'd argue Doomguy's weapon arsenal in all games is closer to Ork weaponry more than anything, with how the super shotgun is treated as a relic in the doom series, that shit is probably a boomstikk you'd see some of the Evil Sunz bosses use.
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>>740912319
And before some 40k nerd would be eager to tell me Orks are also unreasonably fucking hostile, i raise a counterpoint: old doom games had a magical thing called Monster infighting. Doomguy could pass as a boss nob and trick a warboss into getting addicted to fighting demons, and thus we get another Tuska Daemonkilla situation of Ork warbands actively going into the warp or anywhere with daemons.
Plus, some ork klans cooperate with non-orks, see Bloodaxes and Freebootas.
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The Slayer is primarch level.
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>>740912319
>Major counterpoint, why would they fight?
Corrupt and/or retarded superior told the SM that that guy is bad and stuff.
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>>740912421
>BFG and plasma gun notwithstanding
How can you write that after playing the original? In 40k a very slow firing plasma gun wrecks nearly everything. Doomguy's is at about the same power level but fires faster than an autogun. At least two times faster. Combined with his speed he'll melt pretty much anything without psyker abilities and even then who knows.
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>>740913093
A space marine captain, nay, a chapter master would not do a retarded move like looking at a guy that's clearly human, clearly strong and built like a beakie, and tell a space marine company "go fight that guy that is fighting a horde of daemons on a pace as fast as a fucking Custodes" and is actively protecting civilians. Nobody in the salamanders chapter would look at doomguy as anything more than an ally out of uniform, Ultramarines got their own doomguy in Malum Caedo, reasoning with doomguy is within the codex astartes, and all doomguy lacks is screaming Horus before being kindred spirits with the BA's.
Only loyalist 1st founding chapter who'd be retarded enough to take on doomguy are the Iron hands.
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>>740913437
>A space marine captain, nay, a chapter master would not do a retarded move
Picrel.
>but he fell to Chaos
Duh. He manipulated the entire Chapter and more well before revealing that.
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How many gun switching, blood punch, grenade, melee weapon combos would it take to crack space marine armor?
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>>740913804
Dude can mulch demons and tear metal apart with his bare hands, I expect he could batter around ceramite armor a bit
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>>740913804
Point blank BFG9000 (doom 2's tbms) is enough to make a space marine's powerpack go ka-put.
The better question here is what wouldn't Doomguy do with 40k's arsenal. Dude can manhandle daemon weapons (unmaker) without getting buttfucked by hell, he could probably do the near unthinkable and somehow use Ork weapons without them blowing up his face, or hipfire a heavy bolter like that one Catachan (sarge briggs was it called?)

Doomguy is quite trankly, Sly Marbo-levels of ridiuclous inside 40k when you put two and two together.
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>>740913968
Blessed by Gork and Mork as a saint of Dakka
He is wearing green after all.
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>>740913968
Being able to touch demonic weapons has a lot of interesting implications for 40k's setting and being able to touch anything chaos-afflicted
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Yes, doomguy would win against a space marine, he's a named hero character and so wins against any unnamed warhammer unit by default, including titan sized ones. A space marine would kill a nameless marine from doom.
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>>740914226
>becomes the warp god of making khorne look reasonable and chill
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>>740912319
Interacted with chaos/demons and is not a space marine therefore inquisition will try to kill him. They already genocide worlds that have repelled demons for fear of corruption.
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>>740914538
Doomguy's both slippery enough and laser-focused enough I could see him getting a reputation for immediately brutalizing Inquisitors that make exterminatus orders, sometimes by launching himself into orbit to board their vessel by means of human-projectile
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>>740913437
>A space marine captain, nay, a chapter master would not do a retarded move
Grimnar walking around with a chaos artifact that he knows is a chaos artifact, calgar getting outmaneuvered in both land and space battles by the tyranids and also challenging one to a duel which he lost, badly, ahriman dusting thr entire legion, erebus.
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>>740899936
>Can Doomguy really defeat a Space Marine?
NuDoomguy is probably on the level of primarch if not more but just smaller in scale. Remember nuDoomguy alone without armor is still a demigod compared to an armorless spacemarine with a modified body and have done feats that I dont think a single spacemarine can do alone.
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>>740914721
The question was why would they fight, the answer is the imperium is fucking retarded, paranoid, corrupt, and stupid. Very very stupid.
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>>740899936
>a Space Marine
A rando no-stud muhreen, yes. Lots of stuff in his arsenal (RPG, BFG, railgun, chaingun, etc.) is absolutely capable of piercing astartes armor. That said, he is far from invincible himself, and a few bolt shells to the chest or head would be more than enough to kill him. There's plenty of marines who could beat him in a 1v1 quite easily.
They wouldn't even need to be named, just someone with rank or a single service stud would be enough. If he's 500+ years old, you could probably drop him in unarmed and he'd still win. If it's an OG 10k y/o chaos marine, he wouldn't even need armor, nonetheless weapons.
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>>740915005
In Calgar's defense, Tyranids are scary, like unfuckwithable kind of scary because for all the hissing and roaring they do, the Tyranid hivemind is anything but feral, they know how to adapt even if shit's a small common sense thought like "ok those flesh tearer guys are too nasty in melee, throw ranged units at them instead of wasting biomass on melee combat''.
If anything, the 'nids might be the only thing halting doomguy because logistically speaking, put him in any battle against any other army and he can easily get ammo out of the shit he fights, the second he tries using a tyranid ammo is the second he finds his arm getting nibbled by said weapon's ammo. Tyranids just need to develop tyranid chaingunners
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>>740915304
>tyranids figure out hitscan mobs
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>>740899936
Nameless John Astartes? Yes, absolutely

Named ones? Depends. Regardless he's much likelier to team up with them to kick demon ass anyways
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>>740915304
He got outplayed in a ambush then tried to 1v1 the 22 foot tall bug tank. And lost.
>but he won the second time
Yeah because he gained plot armor. He got chopped into bits in his first fight then just beat it to death with his bare hands when the past time he tried to fight it with weapons he got sliced into bits.
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>>740899936
Doomfags always reference his most OP bullshit anime tier lore and then compare him to a standard unnamed sergeant or librarian at best.
I can just as easily say;
>No, Sigismund wins easy 1v1 cause *insert lore where he became one with the the black sword yadda yadda*
>No, X character wins cause X plot reason
>Mephiston wins cause lol warp fuckery or *insert named psyker here*

Then the Doomfags carry on about his speed being on average 30km faster etc like it fucking matters.
Then 40kfags reference one Marine needed to conquer a world.
Then contrarian oldfags claim marines are just roid junkie mad max bandits cause "muh rogue trader" and they lose by default
Then some redditfag insist a salamander would hug him and convince him to be best friends.

The actual truth is it does not matter. He would either be directed towards or sent to the Eye of Terror or some other warp entry point, be immediately claimed by Khorne and be the human version of that Ork he resurrects forever, or until the Emperor does some warp fuckery and get him spit out during a daemonic invasion of Armageddon or something.

What actually happens is Trazyn nabs him and he is never seen or heard from again.
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To put it in 40k terms, OG doomguy is commissar Yarrick, a normal guy who accomplished shit beyond his apparent upper limit and is memed as unstoppable by his enemies more than his allies. Nu doomsayer is ollanus pious, a guy who was cool because he was just a regular guy who did what he needed to do, retconned into being just another superhuman chosen one specifically designed for that purpose, ruining the whole thing.
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>>740912696
I will interject that you are clearly a fucking secondary. Ork gestalt would sniff him out almost immediately. The only reason the green humies get ignored is because they are SUPER larping as orks. Doomguy would not even attempt the larp so instead would be a prime target for krumpin.

Orks can and do immediately sniff out ork infected genestealers and daemonically possesed orks - and Chaos orks are old canon from a time when inquisitors were still having sex with genestealers, and Horus was just a random rogue general.
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>>740916562
Doomguy has no need to worry about psykers because he is a named character and named characters can just shake off and ignore psykers because of force of will or something silly like that.
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>>740899936
>doomguy
Fuck no. He would be barely better than the average guardsman.
>doomslayer
Canonically he would let the space marine kill him once before getting bored and turning him inside out for fun.
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>>740916562
That wall of butthurt reads like the profile with pronouns kind of shit or code of conduct maybe.
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>>740917057
NO U!
Mephiston doesn't care cause he is so OP!
and so on...
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>>740917213
>profile with pronouns
Listen her niggerfaggot, no one cares you are butthurt over your chosen epeen avatar
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>>740899936
>my favorite video game character can beat your favorite video game character
Powerscaling fags need to rope
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>>740917213
Someone said something mean about his fictional character and now he is above such petty discussions, yet still feels the need to involve himself.
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>>740917290
>so hysterical he's incoherent
Sad.
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>>740917412
>capeshit
Nobody cares.
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>>740917412
Duh they dont have any kryptonite.
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>>740917527
warhammer is capeshit
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>>740901402
>moetranny
Opinion disregarded
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>>740907591
Canon is whatever I decide it is.
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>>740899936
A marine is faster, stronger, and significantly more resilient than doomguy. He stands no chance.
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>>740917703
>i decide reality!
Tranny coded post.
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>>740917703
Canon is something the original creators sans Carmack agree on without pressure. If they want to say something publishers or "rights owners" would punish them for they obviously won't say it.
Why does Carmack's opinion not count? He is the guy famous for saying story doesn't matter at all in video games.
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>>740917703
>i decide reality!
Chad coded post.
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>>740902787
>but like 3 assholes get dropped into a dying planet and they turn the tide on their own. theyre crazy powerful. they get treated like literal savior angels for a reason
Maybe 3 custodes, but there is so much that could kill a Space Marine, from a group of retard heretics suicide charging with krak grenades, to a barrage of bolter fire, to just pussy mine tactics. Marines are incredible and in pure melee can handle hundreds of humans, but once ranged weaponry and explosives get thrown into the mix things get dicey.
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>>740899936
If those space elf faggots can, Doomguy certainly.
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Why do Warhammerfags feel the need to make threads like
>Who would win: Goku + Superman + God + Godzilla + Thanos with all Infinity Stones VS 1 random unnamed Space Marine
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What if you gave Doomguy some primaris juice
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>>740919596
He would die. Without all the organs and biochemcial engineering to make use of it. Also no black carapace etc.
May as well ask what would happen if he joined the SPARTAN program. He would either die or mutate horribly, or even worse, it would be a downgrade.
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>>740899936
Hell no. Doomguy can get killed by zombified humans using chainguns.
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>>740901402
>troonhou
you will never be a real tier 2 verse
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>>740920004
They will say those are hell guns and super op and it actually doesn't hurt him anyways cause death isn't canon. I miss when he was just a guy and not a demi god.
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>>740920078
Muhreens die to cultists with stub guns all the time.
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>>740920212
Yeah, by having tons of them basically saturate the area with lead.
Doomguy on the other hand can be killed by just one of these dudes.
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>>740920265
>.gif
>not a .gif
why??
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>>740920265
He doesn't have a fancy armour. If he had he'd be on par with at least the top 15% of all Astartes.

>>740920317
There you go.
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>>740907105
CHAOS SPACE MARINES YOU DOLT
YOU'RE IN A 40K THREAD FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>740920532
Nah that's cope. Stick him in space marine armor and he'd end up getting it all shot off of him.
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>>740899936
I think he and Space Marines would be bros. Especially with Grey Knights...that is until they start killing witnesses.
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Why not make him fight the boltgun guy? That dude is arguably more impressive than some primarchs.
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>>740902787
The Ultramarines Second Company nearly got wiped out by some very hungry bugs, and piles of magic dust. They’re aren’t as powerful as you think they are.
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>>740899936
What version of Doomguy are we talking about?
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Yeah. He’s fast.
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>>740918785
He's talking about how your 3 man squad in either the story mission or the co-op ones in Space Marine 2 always win against impossible odds, like fighting a hive tyrant or a heldrake.
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>>740912319
Doomguy doesn’t compromise with people who want to subjugate humanity for any reason. As soon as he meets one of the more dickheaded Chapters, or the Inquisition, he’s going to be against the Imperium.
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>>740901328
>30k Kharn is basically just doom guy
30k already has a much more appropriate doomguy expy
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>>740923738
Have you considered that Talasa and Veridian are built different, and do not stand as an example for every Space Marine?
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>>740902997
You mean Doomslayer. Doomguy is just some dude stuck in the weakest version of Hell where the demons can be killed with normal ass pistol bullets of all things.
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>>740924015
Considering that Talasa is a 3 man squad of any number of 7 (soon to be 8) space marines it's more like the space marines who die like scrubs are the exception rather than the norm.
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>>740924047
Same guy.
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>>740924125
Most of Second Company got annihilated, and it would’ve been a complete destruction if Daddy Calgar didn’t save them with First and Third Company.
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>>740924135
So what you're saying is that he's still fighting the weakest ass iteration of demons in the 2016 shit.
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>>740923757
He kind of works like Judge Dredd though; you can convince him to put you lower on his shit list if there's a more pressing matter threatening humanity on his notice.
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>>740924261
They’re pretty tough.
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>>740924296
That’s only delaying the inevitable at that point. As soon as he clears things up, you’re next.
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>>740924318
Do they still die to pistols?
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>>740924261
He's saying that he is retarded.
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>>740900949
But could Doomguy defeat Sly Marbo?
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>>740924350
It’s a super science pistol that’s basically a BFG prototype, and while it can kill everything, it’s so ineffective that it’s insane to even attempt.
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>>740924296
Speaking of Dredd, it's funny that he's currently larping as Kaldor Draigo.
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>>740924416
Why would he fight his descendant?
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>>740924447
>directed energy nonsense
Okay, but they still die to buckshot from shotguns. Ergo, still weakshit demons.
Hell, they're not even consecrated or enchanted or any shit like that. At least Dante in DMC has lore of infusing his bullets with devil energy.
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>>740912549
Hell genuinely seethes over the Super Shotgun.
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I remember listening to a video recently which claimed that Warhammer's imagery was fascist because of the centrality of the emperor and the willingness to sacrifice oneself for the sake of the emperor, but even as someone who only ever learned about 40k through osmosis I knew that this is because if he died then interstellar travel would shut down and completely hamstring human civilization as a result, not merely because ideology says so.
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>>740924524
It depends. Most weak demons or former humans die from conventional firearms pretty quickly, but the stronger ones simply teleport back to Hell, and respawn later, or simply get back up, which is an exploration for Doom 1 and 2’s Nightmare difficulty. Also, in the case of Classic Revenants, Hell just recovers their bodies, cybernetically enhances them, and sends them out to fight again and again. Doomguy is the only one who can actually permanently kill all of them because of the Argent Energy in his system from the Divinity Machine, which lets him eat their Souls upon death, and replenish his health.
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>>740899936
>Gameplay
Space marine would win, with difficulty
>Lore
Doomguy would rip and tear through a few chapters before going down
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>>740899936
>Can Doomguy defeat a Space Marine
A helmeted Marine yes. A helmetless Marine, no.
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>>740924956
Though I just found this quote in the wiki article about space marines by the co-founder of 40k.
>To me the background to 40K was always intended to be ironic. [...] The fact that the Space Marines were lauded as heroes within Games Workshop always amused me, because they’re brutal, but they’re also completely self-deceiving. The whole idea of the Emperor is that you don’t know whether he’s alive or dead. The whole Imperium might be running on superstition. There’s no guarantee that the Emperor is anything other than a corpse with a residual mental ability to direct spacecraft. It’s got some parallels with religious beliefs and principles, and I think a lot of that got missed and overwritten.
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>>740901402
Well the literal entire point of 40k is that humanity is one of the weakest sci-fi factions, it's on purpose. They use 135mm artillery shells over 15 km. US standard artillery is 155mm and travels up to 96+ km.
The point is that the 40k galaxy collapsed hard. It's the post apocalypse but on a galactic scale. They had their golden age, they had Star Wars/Halo tier technology, then they lost all of it when AI and Chaos started going crazy and raping everyone. Now their technology is worse than 21st century tech, and their only advantage is stated quantity of each faction's high populations which most franchises don't really touch upon nor even mention.
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>>740925780
>Now their technology is worse than 21st century tech
We don't have "scouting vehicles" the size of a parking lot nor do we have 40 foot tall bipedal agricultural robots. We lack hand held plasma weaponry as well as hand held fully automatic RPG launchers. We have yet to create artificial humans for the express purpose of computational power/logistics (we're just barely at the "tinkering with brain cells in a petri dish" stage).
To say that "their technology is worse" is oversimplifying the technology that they have.
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>>740925780
>Now their technology is worse than 21st century tech
Yes and no. Some of their genereic tech that Guardsman use is equivilent or above current day tech, but that's absolutely not all the Imperium for example their armoured divions are far and away superior to anything we have just look at the size and power of the fucking BaneBlade!
That's just the Imperial Guard, then you have Space Marines, their standard issue weapon is a Bolter which fires .75mm rocket jet assisted projectiles in a varying option of ammunition. Their standard armour is stronger than the strongest modern day tank armour and that's on a standard Marine, you go up to Terminator armour and then you have Dreadnoughts, they also have access to plasma weaponry, Meltas e.t.c. Not to mention the Space Marines themselves, genetically enhanced super soldiers who can move faster than the human eye can track, they're stronger, more powerful, more resilient then are functionally immortal.
Then you've the Mechanicum who are incredibly powerful, from their ground troops to Titans, Titans which are called 'God' machines because they are so powerful when one arrives on the battlefield they are Gods of war, even down to the weakest Titan they can level entire cities all on their own, some entire systems surrender when they hear that Titans are coming against them.
That's just ground forces and I've barely scratched the surface.
You've then god the Imperial Navy which is a fleet in the millions, that's millions of ships and the smallest ship in the fleet is 2km long. The average ship in the fleet is 10-15km long and the most powerful are 25-30km long, not to mention there are forces in the Imperium who have access to Moon sized fortressed that can move such as the Phalanx.
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>>740912421
Doomguy can canonically run at 57MPH because autists figured it out.
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>>740926254
I wonder if anyone's been stupid enough to do this shit with Malum Caedo.
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>>740926254
>Doomguy can canonically run at 57MPH because autists figured it out.
Pfft...ENTER!
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>>740926254
By that logic, if factorio guy can hold a fucking city worth of buildings in his pocket, what does that make him then?
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>>740926531
my point was that doomguy is on par with a space marine in terms of strength and speed, and in the doomslayer armor he probably has similar durability.
I think most fights with doomguy in 40K would involve his enemies massively underestimating him and being punished for it.
>look at this small human he thinks he can fight us
>holy fuck why is he so fast tearing daemon limbs off with his bare hands!?
>>740926617
Factorio guy is powered by pure refined autism
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>>740899936
Can OP defeat a job application form?
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>>740926531
I dunno about White Scars but Talos from the Night Lords has been clocked at 85 kph on a full sprint.
>>740926767
Malum Caedo's maximum (aka taunts and dashes included) map speed is 1750mu/s. That means he runs at roughly 149mph, nearing 3x faster than Doomguy.
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>>740926939
considering how heavy space marines are a regular human being hit by that would be turned into paste, like the first 30 seconds of The Boys level of collision goo.
But yeah that's a doomlike FPS space marine so of course he's going to be terrifyingly fast.
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>>740926939
White Scars are the fastest out of both Loyalists and Chaos SPMs and if the Khan himself wasn't off wherever the fuck he was, he has been clocked going SuperSonic and beyond.
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>>740901328
Fuck Kharn, he's an evil nigger-brained piece of shit. Doomguy would swat him like the bug he is. A better 40k analogue to Doomguy is Sigismund or Malum Caedo
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>>740928806
Malum Caedo is non-canon. Sigismund would wreck the shit out of Doomguy and he'd do it without breaking a sweat, the guy was able to wound Abaddon the Despoiler who was empowered for over 1k years with buffed with 4 Chaos Gods for fuck sake.
Sigismund also beat Khan at the Siege of Terra and it wasn't even close.
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>>740899936
doomguy could 1v1 the emperor and win
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>>740929037
No he could not.
https://youtu.be/TkvDOoRgq7s?si=kJvpIfFsKFARKhVL&t=6993
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>>740929037
lol, lmao even. The master of mankind would turn him into red paste.
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>>740899936
Marines are massively overblown and are mostly carried 'power level' wise by plot armored named characters. They die all the time in 40k to all sorts of stuff.
Doomguy could easily do it. Help Master Chief could.
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>>740929778
>Help Master Chief could.
*Hell.
Honestly even a Starcraft Marine could probably get the job done.
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>>740929778
>>740925225
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>>740899936
>Doomguy
>Space Marine
>actually posts bethesda fanfiction and pritranis fanfiction
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>>740925780
>Now their technology is worse than 21st century tech,
No, the tech in the Imperium is schizo, not bad.

The Imperium can create personal force shields, antigrav tanks, gravitic singularity canons, and teleporters. All of those are considered very high level for the setting. Add to that fucking spaceships, Titans, etc.

It's just that because the Imperium is so fuckhuge and decentralized, and the highest level tech so centralized into the hands of Forge Worlds that have a waiting queue of approx 3,000 years, you've got more often than not what's available locally on your planet: if it's candles and horses, you've got candles and horses. Add to that the fact that manpower is practically unlimited (but not resources), and you've got some seriously schizo tech going on. If it takes less resources to do manual reloading of your canons instead of having an autoloader, you'll get manual reloading.
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>>740925780
>Now their technology is worse than 21st century tech
Er... what?
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>>740931206
Castles are definitely medieval. Just because you bolted a few legs to a castle doesn't mean it's modern day technology.
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>>740925780
Wrong, just wrong. The Imperium still retain the knowledge to build Titans, granted 'Imperium' more like Mechanicum but that's the purpose of Forge Worlds.
They still retain the knowledge to make Space Marines.
They even still retain the knowledge to make new Custodes.
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>>740931290
This castle moves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbO8BGr0Tgs
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>>740900240
This.

nuDoomguy is basically "dude is too powerful and angry and plotarmor to die", which is actually what's the Emprah in W40k. And the Emprah (which was also Alexander the Great and Attila the Hun) has a story of doing sidequests when he was young.

If you crossover both universes nudoomguy is basically literally just the Emperor.
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>>740931773
Doomguy would get obliterated as easily as anyone of these Sons of Horus by my moving Castle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeq07P8EfLc
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>>740931919
It's a very obvious joke.
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>>740899936
OG Doomguy is fast enough to just run past enemy encounter. Nu-Doomguy however
>Out of ammo
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>>740899936
>original Doom
Maybe yes, maybe not. Doomguy is peak baseline human who's fast and extremely proficient with weapons against hordes of demons, but space marines are heavily armored superhumans with their own weapons.
>reboot Doomguy
Easily yes, but he would unwittingly spread the word of Khorne. Reboot Doomguy has a grotesque enjoyment of violence and slaughter. Think Malum Caldo on steroids but more deranged and given godly powers.
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>genestealer patriarchs easily kill space marines in terminator armor
>ciaphas caine casually duelled one and survived
Space marines are weak even in universe
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>>740899936
>5'11 vs 6'0
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>>740932436
Unnamed Space Marines fall like rain.
Named Space Marines are unkillable behemoths.
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>>740899936
They are both ridiculously strong super-soldiers in power armor who can get fucked up by anemic demons and overgrown cockroaches
Comparing power levels with any consideration to gameplay or mechanics is complete retardation.
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>>740899936
Why would they fight against each other? Both absolutely HATE demons, if anything the astartes would try to recruit doomguy
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>>740932523
space marines are 7'0 not 6'0
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>>740932316
>spread the word of Khorne
I don't think it would considering if he's fighting daemons his armor would probably be tweaked to absorb warp energy instead of Argent, then he could just stroll into the warp and pull Khorne's skull out through his anus, that's how stupidly OP his suit is, his armor makes space marine armor look like caveman hides by comparison
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>>740935819
Depends on what they see him doing first
If the marines are smart the natural first assumption will be that he's some sort of mimicry of astartes secretly developed in some higher tier world which basically means heretical technology and must be shot dead asap.
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>>740936146
Or if they're smart, when they see a human not-covered in tattoos and heretical carvings or any visible mutations killing demons, they'll assume he's either fresh astartes recruit who's lost and isolated due to various reasons (common in the setting). Or a guardsman blessed by the Emperor.
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>>740899936
The shape of doom guys head in that picture is so disconcerting.
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>>740899936
I fucking hate primaris marines. They look so fucking ass
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>>740936604
If they see his armor as some sort of funky fringe world pattern then yeah maybe, but the thing with unsanctioned technology is that it's 99% likely to be infected with trace amounts of chaos influence which can create a butterfly effect later on.
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>>740935819
The whole point of 40k is that the Imperium is self-destructively ignorant. Doomguy would refuse to bend the knee to the Emperor, so the Astartes would shoot him on-sight. There's tons of rogue space marines who still hate and kill Chaos. They're called Renegade Astartes (examples: the Badab War). They're considered as heretical as Chaos worshipers, because they're retarded
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40k is so inconsistent with the power level of space marines in itself

Hundreds can die in a small skirmish with orcs or 20 ultramarines can kill the avatar of khaine suffering no losses
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>>740937937
20 ultramarines could destroy a craftworld if the writers wanted to lmao
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>>740899936
CAN I GET A HOOOYAAAAAAAAA
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Does doomguy have his full arsenal? Then he wins; rockets, plasma and a fucking BFG will take down an astartes no problem

Unarmed? Probably a stalemate as they both canonically rip limbs off with as much effort as it takes to open a bag of chips

Just his trusty shotgun? Won't even make a dent in astartes power armour and a bolt round would fuck him up
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>>740899936
I dunno. Who is the writer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_zFYnnn2Y



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