>plays a character in a way they're not meant to be played>ends up being more fun
>volvo still has not given Heavy a 4th equip slot for Lunchbox items so you don't have to choose between banana or shotgun (99% of players use banana because it's just better)
>>740906476because you and your enemies both suck at video games
>>740906672mald
>>740906476I prefer Sniper without the sniping
being a glorified sentry gun on legs is boring
>>740906476Fat scout isn't fun though it sucks because shotgun sucks on heavyA better fat scout would be gunslinger engie
>>740910103not how i play em
>>740910103BZZZ BZZZ BBZZhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9VwIxb-90M
>>740906476TF2 will never be a complete game until every class has a viable subclass with alternative gameplay like demoknight or battle engi
>>740914260we need battle medic with a healing bomb and bomb jump
>>740914260Engi is fat scout
>>740906476This requires more IQ points than most TF2 players have, but you can actually switch weapons at any time and use the minigun when the damage is advantageous and use the shotgun when the mobility is advantageous. I call this subclass the Heavy Weapons Guy.
>>740906672so?
>>740911776gunslinger engi my beloved
>>740918078The problem is the sandvich or chocolate increases your lifespan a lot if your medic is busy or dies.
>>740918367>can't play heavy if there's no medic up your ass all the timefuck off
>>740918078
>>740918078Except that this play style doesn't work because heavy 's mobility is shit and that makes him a damage sponge no matter what gun he's using at the time
>>740919081yes, heavy is literally unplayable, scout pretty much counters it if you don't use natascha or brass beast.
>>740906612THE WHOLE POINT IS THE CHOICE BETWEEN THE FOOD AND THE SHOTGUN
The shotgun is legitimately one of the most powerful guns in the game
I am heavy weapons guy, and this is my weapon
Heavy should be allowed to use the shotgun as a primaryI wonder if there's some retarded spaghetti code reason they haven't done that yet
>>740920037Shotgun as a primary for Heavy sucks I don't know why anybody would want that other than to be a dead weight meme like civilians and by that point just beg for Valve to make that an official play style for him instead
>>740920169because people are doing it anyway (or just not even playing the game and waddling around holding a sandwich) so you might as well make it a little less bad with an extremely simple addition, that takes 1/50th the work of actually adding anything new.And it's not even that bad in the right situation, shotgun is very solid weapon overall and heavy's fat health pool means he wins most 1v1s. Lunchbox items would go a long way to improve it since he sucks at grabbing health packs and can't avoid damage even if he wins the fight. It would still be a meme, but a relatively functional meme, better than gun spy
>>740908613smging is a good job mate
>>740906476>people start pointing out you're topscoring as fat scout
>>740914260Steak Sandvich is almost there but the slow eating animation and damage vulnerability are gay
>>740906612youd still have no reason to use the shotgunthe reason it isnt used it because the minigun has been buffed to a point that it completely overshadows any utility the shotgun might havespinup is too short (and further the tomislav exists) and the heavy is far too mobile while spun, its literally never good to swap to the shotgun when you could just hold m1
>>740921335>the minigun has been buffedi've been playing this game for 15 years, and i can only recall nerfs to the minigun, a big one at that.tomislav used to be a near-instant deploy, and you had no ramp-up on damage and accuracy
>>740921335>the reason it isnt used it because the minigun has been buffed to a point that it completely overshadows any utility the shotgun might haveNo it hasn't you moron they nerfed every minigun you need to wait a second after revving before you can even do damage with it because of the spin up debuff
It's not incorrect if it works.
>>740906612because only engineer and spy were designed to have 4 slots, giving the heavy a 4th would open a slippery slope of why wont other classes get a 4th slot
>>740918078>and use the shotgun when the mobility is advantageous.This. I cant go back to lunchbox items anymore, that 8-round spammable shotgun is just too good and puts out more dps than people think it can.
>>740919723>if you don't use nataschaI exclusively use Natascha. Its the best minigun.
>>740925556Pretty sure it's Tomislav but okay
>>740906476For me it's Panic Attack + GRU
>>740906476I love the meme playstyles in TF2>People running around as fat scout, friendly heavy and spycrab back when I used to play in the 2010s>There was always a tryhard raging about it in chat>It's fucking 24/7 2fortIt was fun.
I want to run two shotguns
>>740925628Tomi's better for bads who cant position. But meta favours damage dealing classes who move around quickly up in your face, and Natascha completely shuts them down, specially Phlaggots and Scunts.
>>740906476using a shotgun on heavy isn't playing in an unintended way it's just using your stock fucking secondary.
