Now that the dust has settled, which are best?
>>740912705>which are best?Good morning saar!
For me it's still 1.
2 > 1 > X > 3
>>740912891/thread
>>740912891Swap X and 2 and you got it.
>>7409127051 = X > Shit > 2 =3
>>740912705Hm...It's like looking at xenogears little brother I never interacted with
>>740912705X (wii u version) > 2 >= 1 > X (switch version) > 3
>>7409127051>X>FR>3=Torna>2I hated the stuff they added to the end of XDE but up until then it's cool.
I wish 2 didn't have the worst gameplay in the series because I like everything else about the game.
>>740912705Objectively: 1 > 3 > X > 2
>>740912705I like all the games. Fucking love this series.>XB2's blade missions are now playable gameplayBased. That's all I wanted from XB2.
>>7409127051 > 3 > X > 2
>>740915108>Objectivelykill yourself
>>740915004explain the X ranking, I was thinking of grabbing the Switch version for a replay
3 for having the first mixed race/species couple in JRPG history!
>>740915310He's a troll. I played X on the Wii U, Switch and Switch 2. Wii U is the absolute worst one. The only reason he could possibly rate it higher is because the Definitive Edition adds chapter 13 and he doesn't know how it's popping.
>>7409127052 and 3 for me. 1 is too much of a slog like X is.All are good though.3 has by far the better pacing.
These games are the equivalent of giving a completionist a nipple twister until they turn purple.
>>740915310it looked better, the online was better and more active, gameplay was better and less handholdy, the new content is shit
>>740915310NTA but the switch version added a chapter to the end of the game that took it in a completely different direction and even gave us a totally radical new character that the game suddenly revolves around.
>>740912705Two
>>740915658>totally radical new character that the game suddenly revolves around.He's the main character, of course he gets focus.So how's it poppin'?
>>740915751It sure is buddy. It sure is.
>>740915751Amuro Ray but Xenoblade
>>740915751Someone who appears for 1 out of 13 chapters cannot be the main character, by definition. Retard.
>>740915751Terrible. And you?
>>7409127052 has best girls3 has best story
>>740915751that's just clive
>>740916075BETTER THAN YOU AND THAT MEANS GREAT HAHA
>>740916176Hahahahahahaha
>>740912705They all have terrible gameplay
>>740912705I actually really enjoyed 3 and especially enjoyed Future Redeemed. That being said i probably still like 1 the most. Though from time to time I do find myself kind of wishing they had just let 1 be its own thing and moved on to another series.
>>740915751>>740916075>>740916176>>740916193
>>740912705There isn't a bad Xenoblade game. They're all must play games.
>>740916302yeah but which is the mustest play game?Honestly this debate is just like "which souls game is the best" they're all good but we're a bunch of tribalistic animals and must nudge the worst one out even if it's only marginal.Xeno 2, go in the corner with Dark Souls 2.
>>7409127051 > 3 > 2X is too different to quantify.All great games though.
>>740916393*Xeno 3
>>740916393You could make an argument for any one of them being the best in the series and I would understand where you're coming from. This debate seems kind of pointless considering the consistent quality of Monolith games.I guess I would also have to vote 2 as the worst but that's only because the blade gatcha was kind of stingy. I liked how they handled the heroes more in Xenoblade 3.
threadly reminder.
>>7409127052 > 3 > 1
>>740916657>I liked how they handled the heroes more in Xenoblade 3.In general, 3 fixed almost all my complaints I had with 2.>QTEs becoming too much, merc missions were boring, field skills were annoying, blade gacha when they could just be normal quests, running speed too slow, too much clutter on screen during combat.I'll still give 2 another playthrough once the switch 2 update comes out. I want a fresh perspective on it and it was a beautiful game to begin with so I'll like to see it more crisp.
>>740912705For me right now it's 1>2In 1 all the systems fit together perfectly and don't distract you too much from the main game (story, map exploration and combat), which is impressive for a game that throws vastly different shit at you and just expects you to accept it and understand.As of chapter 4 in the second game a lot of stuff just feels messy. Blades, pouches, field skills, merc missions and even side quest tracking just waste so much time because you're constantly fiddling in slow menus. The combat for the first dozen hours is really sluggish and feels clumsy. Though that's been getting better as the game goes on.
>>740917317I feel the same too. 1 is simpler but solid all around. I think my only complaint is Sharla should have gotten more physical based arts to give her a back-up role other than healer which becomes less useful the longer the game goes on. Everyone else in the game gets "sub roles" which they're also good at outside of their specialty.
>>740916771Heroes and their quests to recruit them are definitely a better execution than the gacha but god damn is 3's combat so shit that it feels like it doesn't even matter.
I hope Genesis gives us clothing options like 1 and X, 2 has a couple but you have to sacrifice actual good gear to see it and 3 has Good ones but they're all tied to classes
>>740919142Yeah, I wish they would remember that part of the appeal of the series is being able to dress your characters up in cool/funny/sexy outfits. They don't have to be tied to armor like in 1 and X, but not being able to really do it much in 2 and it being tied to the classes in 3 was kind of boring.
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>>740915496And you can never get 100% since there are choices that affect your affinity chart.At least there isn't a massive body count if you make the wrong choice like in X.
>>7409127051 >= 2 >> 3I constantly change my mind between 1 or 2 being best.
>>7409127052 > 1 > 3 >>> runny dog doo >>> dumpster full of raw sewage >>> X
>another shitty upgradeGrim
>>740912705Torna The Golden Country > 2 > Future Redeemed > 3 > 1 > Future Connected > X
>>7409127051 is a solid 8/10 and still remains the most consistent experience in the series for a first time player.2 is either a 5/10 or a 9/10 depending on if you can roll with its bullshitTorna is a 9/103 is a 7/10Future Redeemed is another 8/10The XB1:DE additional campaign is such a nothing burger I never finished it.
>>740923816They got back all of the original voice actors, your opinion is invalid.
>>740915351Brown bros, we won.
>>740923816Man, someone needs to make a Switch 2 emulator stat. It's the only solution to these technical issues.
X
>>7409128912 > X > Future Redeemed > 1 > 3
>>740915351ESG credits - Rewarded. Larry Fink - Compensated. Fag Status - Settled.
2 is popular because of Pyra and Mythra.
2 > 1 > 3XBC2 is the best game overall. XBC1's gameplay is a bit dated now, but it's still a worthwhile experience. XBC3 probably has the best gameplay, but the story is so monumentally shit that I have half a mind to tell people to skip it, because it retcons itself.
X > 2 > 1 >>>>> 3And I strongly suspect Genesis will be worse than 3
>>740925464Genesis will be the Sonic 06 of the series. Every anon on 4chan seems to fucking hate it. (And no, the Enelcord raiders don't count.)
1 has Xeno Kart, therefore it's the best one.
>>740912705Unironically a lot of people will say 1>2>3 but in terms of popularity I would say 2>1>3. I really enjoyed 3 and didn't really have any issues with it, but it's the most hated out of the three from what I've seen. I honestly didn't care for 2, and I did enjoy 1, so I'd be in the minority of people who didn't like 2. Pyra and Mythra are hot, but there was a lot of stuff in 2 that I didn't care for.
X(Wii U) > X(Switch) > X (Emu) > 1(Wii) > 2 >>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XDE3 was the beginning of the end it seems
>>7409256943 is one of our most hated games and Genesis is looking to be the series's version of Sonic 06...
Notice how whenever anyone talks about how "good" two is they only talk about pyra and mythra's tits
>>740925464I have never seen the 4chan community hate on a game as much as Genesis desu, its wild.
>>740925694>Wii U> more grindy> no plotWhy?
I enjoy 3 the most even with its flaws. Best soundtrack, the pacing is the most consistent in the series, best side content, good cast. Z is a bit of a meh villain but the story is kino aside from that. I think the "fall off" after chapter 5 is heavily overblown
>>740925815I'm open minded enough to admit it's not out yet but it sure as shit isn't selling itself on me.>Inb4 you just hate it because muh no boobsThis trailer still gets me fucking hyped.https://youtu.be/APWTJMyM4qg?is=oJPHLwUJt-wTdZ9aI feel nothing watching the Genesis trailer. It might as well be some generic scamco game.
>>740925464>>740925560>>740925737>>740925815Geneis will outsell all the previous games because of your outdated sex object boomer tastes gramps. 4chan might hate it but Japan and the rest of the world will love it because it's not a creepy exxhi harem coomer game like 2 and X
>>740912705>Jeet is trying to start inter-fanbase warEvery time.
>>740926031Legit the only people simping for Genssis are Enel and his discord sycophants, my gosh that game looks so bad.
>>740926031>I feel nothing watching the Genesis trailer. It might as well be some generic scamco game.Then you have no taste because this acts like actual immersive video game jrpg and is coming to be more detailed and professionally recognized as a evolving experience both story and gameplay wise
>>740926114This game has over 1 million views so it's quite popular over with casuals and new fans. Genesis is gonna be the best game Monolith made since Xenogears.
>>740926219Can you please write that again without having a stroke?
>>740915043Wake me up when we get another Xenoblade where every girl has designs similar to Kosmos.
>>740919142Why does 3's character designs suck ass compared to the previous titles? Just look at that armor and compare it to 3's. I don't like the military look to 3.
>>740926270>This game has over 1 million views
1 = 3 > X > 2
>>740926530>Just realized me complaining about 3 makes me look like the guy who shitposts in every Xenoblade thread on hereThat nigga did a real number to these threads didn't he?
>>740926556Meanwhile the Persona 4 remake trailer has millions of views. I and many others are def. Getting that over this flopped slop.
>>740912705why was Noah such a shit protagonist?
>>740926578X > All
>>740925752i fucking love my blades>>740925871>more grindy>no plotholy fucking based, exploring felt limited in 1 so i fell in love with x's quest/story design and i love the world so i spent at least 1k hours in multiple playthroughs. i got everything i wanted on the switch version really fucking fast, felt hollow>>740925815nobody wants nuFE designs in xenoblade
>>740926661>nobody wants nuFE designs in xenobladeEnelcord does, that's why they got outted paying a bunch of artist to make the dogshit TORtanic disaster that is genesis look popular.
>>740926606>>740926639>>740926661Can I get a rundown on this anon? He did it almost 4 years ago as well and I originally thought it was to make those who didn't like 3 look bad. But the fact he's still doing it makes me believe this guy is a schizoposter. Like the guy who posts scat and gore porn in Fire Emblem threads or the guy who spams BBC porn in /lolg/ on /vg/.
While Personabros and FFbros feast with their new 2027 games, we Xenobros get scammed hard with downgrades and a game that looks worse than most PS2 games.
>>740912705Xenoblade 3 is woke goyslop that instantly got forgotten Why the fuck are there blacks in a fantasy world fuck off
>>740926649I tried to get into X, but, while it has some promising concepts, it's horribly boring and repetitive and its characters are shockingly lame.
>>740912705X>3>2>1I love all 4 games though
>>7409127052 > X > 1 > 3Unironically, Xenosaga is also 2 > 1 > 3
>>740926802>Let me pretend I like FF and Persona!Least obvious Trails fan.
>>740930343>xenosaga 2
1 had the highest quality overall. Decent pacing, good story, best OST.2 has the highest highs and lowest lows. Still a fantastic entry.3... The only way i can describe it is "generic". It's like a watered down Xenogears taking place in a washed out and boring world with a story that peaks 2 chapters before the ending and then turns characters into mouthpieces for its own themes. I think the terrible finale has greatly soured me on the game. It's by far the worst entry out of 3.
>>740925815The trailer for Genesis was abhorrentCharacter designs are terrible. It's like they came straight out of some otome game. Female lead wouldn't even cut it as a background NPC in other JRPGs, she's that dull. The pivot to fantasy is awful. Yes, any midwit can realize it's just a fantasy with a sci fi twist, but the fantasy component and aesthetics are not going anywhere.It's a fucking schoolshit. I suffered through a decade of Cold Steel, i don't need it in Xenoblade.The colors are super washed out.Nothing about Genesis looks appealing whatsoever. And i'm a huge Xeno drone who even defended 3 back in days.
>>740912705Why does it need to be a competition?
>>740931345>The trailer for Genesis was abhorrent>Character designs are terrible. It's like they came straight out of some otome game.what's wrong with otome game designs?
>>740912705the franchise only has 2 games and they're equally good
2>1>3 Haven't played X yet, I need to buy it.
>>740934603Bland designs created for girls to self insert into, lacking any distinct features or notable sex appeal.
>>740916302>They're all must play games.That cannot be true in a numbered series, I do not make the rules.
>>740925815>4chan communityIt's just samefagging. You can tell because they never change their style of writing and repeat the same shit over and over with the exact same wording.
>>7409127051 > 3 > 2 > XBeen playing the Switch 2 version of XC1. The Ether Jets were something I've needed in 1-3 for years. You move around so fast making doing backtracking and quests so much less tedious. The performance patches for all 4 games are going to be ass. They use double buffer sync meaning any fps drop drops all the way from 60 to 30
>>740926605Voice your discontentment with 3. Everyone who has some has done it. And no one’s retarded enough to think you’re that fag. He has a very clear posting style and manner of speaking that makes him easy to spot.
>>740916302This>>740916393If you could only play one, then absolutely the first game though
>>740928857>the game where you kill the shadowy cabal playing both sides of an endless struggle and the MC breeds his cat wife and the MC from the previous game gets a confirmed haremchad ending is "woke""Racemixing" has been around since Fei and Elly by the way
>>740912891Enel hands typed this
>>740935521Can you do any sequence breaking jumps with the jets?
>>7409127052 > X > 1 > 3
>>740912705X>3>2>1
>>740937131No. They made sure you get no air momentum when driving off cliffs/gaps to prevent sequence breaks
>>740924114I wasn't a fan of torna honestly
>>740916275>toddler /co/shit >thinking it can criticize better Japanese media lol
>3>cast is a bunch of teens (as close to a school setting as a xeno game could get)>turbo gay dramatic theatre subplot>yet another attempt at incorporating the shit class system that X also tried and failed atgood god what an awful game 3 was. Worse than xenosaga 2, and that's saying something. I'd rather watch the entirety of xenosaga 2 on youtube than play through XB3 again.
>>740939883>cast is a bunch of teens (as close to a school setting as a xeno game could get)And now Genesis has 6 teenagers again and literally starts at a school lmao
>>7409127052 because it has Homura and Hikari
What’s with this schizo? Does he really think we can’t tell it’s just him samefagging?
got shit on last time i said this here but 3just loved the vibe, banter, story, world, QOL thingsxc1/2 are clunky and retarded
>>740942189>banterWhat, like Eunie and Lanz?
>>740942328>guhhhhhhstfu you fucking retard
>>740942531seethe and dilate troon
>>740942871lets be fair, faggot nigger, we've all jacked it to feminine troons at this point. stay in the closet about it.
>Shulk and Fiora (Both Homs)>Rex and Pyra Mythra and Nia (Human and Blades)>Noah and Mio (Homs and Gormotti)>Lanz and Sena (Machina and Blade)>Taion and Eunie (Human and High Entia)Will Eleanor preserve the bloodline or be a filthy cross breeder
>>740942948lmao what a faggot
>>740912705Sales don't lie, so it's 2.
>>740942984The leaks point to her love interest being a human looking dude.
>>740942984>Taion>Human Dumb secondary
>>740912705XC1 is for adultsXCX is for spergsXC2 is for teensXC3 is a failed compromiseXC4 will be a return to form for adults
>>740943150It's actually a weird little detail that in 2 regular people are referred to as humans not Homs
>>740943551He has a crystal in his chest you dumb secondary
>>740943301It's XG retard not XC4
>>740926530What is sad is that despite my complaints with 3s characters, the are looking mighty nice after the Genesis trailer.
>>7409127053 > 1 = 2X is like a complimentory entry which is the best if you only care about gameplay and exploration ... and I guess multiplayer.Not really comparable to the trilogy.
>>740943634I'm not acknowledging that one
>>740943716Yup, you're retarded. You'll name something that doesn't exist (XC4) while willingly ignoring the one that just got announced (XG).
>>740943573So do Zeke and Rex but they're still categorized as human
>>740943832You're very close to getting it, champ
>>740935521I wonder why they tied a gauge to the boost. What benefit is there in limiting the duration the player can speed up for? It just looks ugly and is placed smack dab in the middle of the screen.
Literally no one cares but I just finished Xenoblade Chronicles 1 like a week ago (wii version) and I haven't played any other Xeno games.And here's my review!Xenoblade Chronicles is proof that if you do enough right in terms of story and worldbuilding that, even if the actual mechanics and gameplay of your experience are flawed, you'll still have a highly enjoyable game at the end of the day.Xenoblade Chronicles uses an extremely unique premise and world. Having your entire existence be on one of these two unfathomably large humanoid beings who are currently in stasis but could wake up at any moment is not only something wholly unique, but also just awesome and cool, I don't really know any other way to describe it.Having this as the premise also allows for a really cool sense of progression, where you start at the ankles of one of these titans and slowly make your way up to the top, and then begin to explore the body of the other as the game progresses. It's taking one of my favorite "you are inside the body of a massive being" trope to a level I have never seen before, and it's my favorite thing about this game. It also helps create dramatic tension when these titans DO start moving, you know some serious shit is happening. The final few hours of this game are absolute insanity.
>>740944261Everything else leading up to those final few hours is pretty good too, I won't say it's masterclass or anything, but for being a 50 hour long JRPG, it manages to not really make any of it's segments feel like filler, (aside from maayybe the stuff with Melia's succession to the throne) you're always working towards some goal that feels meaningful and stuff is pretty much consistently happening to move the larger plot forward, which constantly kept me invested. Of course, I wouldn't largely care about most of this, if it weren't for the characters, and while I wouldn't say that there is any character in this game that I absolutely adore, they're all generally likeable and get decent amounts of writing and backstory. With only Riki feeling like he was left out of getting more development, which is a shame, since he was one of my main party members.However, with all that said, you maybe noticed I haven't said much about the actual gameplay yet. That's because this is where the game mostly falls short for me. The combat isn't so boring that I'm falling asleep, but once you've gotten about 5 hours in and have unlocked futuresight, that's pretty much what you'll be doing until the end of the game, with minor adjustments for party members. This is a problem shared by a lot of JRPGs, but for some reason when it comes to action games, I feel fatigued from that a lot more quickly than I would for something that's turn based. Additionally; look, I get it, the Bionis and Mechonis are huge, and I'm probably meant to feel small on these titans bodies, but holy shit man it takes forever to get anywhere new in this game because you have to walk around on foot. Just let Shulk glide around on the Monado like a hoverboard, give me a sprint button or something to move around these gigantic environments a little bit faster, please.
>>740944348It may not seem like that big of an issue, but it builds up over the course of the playtime when you're having to walk through 2-3 minutes of nothing to get anywhere to do anything, especially in the Mechonis segments.If Xenoblade Chronicles had a bit more engaging combat system, I could easily see it being one of my favorite games of all time, but as it stands, it's simply a great game that requires a bit of patience to get through, but I am still glad that I managed to air slash, slit edge, and back slash all the way to the end.
>>740944348>holy shit man it takes forever to get anywhere new in this game because you have to walk around on foot.Kek, if you waited a month you could have used the newly added hoverbikes in the Definitive Edition.What made you choose the Wii version over it anyways?
>>740944754When I play any game I try to play the original version of them if I can. It makes me appreciate it more. I know it's pretentious.
Shulk didn't eat one bite of that sandwich
>>740944964I see. Well, as long as you consider that some complaints have been adressed and fixed in the version one is supposed to play, that's fine.
>>740937068He's here with his trooncord 24/7 so there's no doubt 70% of the posts in this thread come from them, just like with every Xenoblade thread on /v/ for the past decade.
>>740944261Based new Xeno 1 enjoyer.
>>7409127052>3>powergap>1I'm currently playing X so I can't say yet. But it's already better than 1 that's for sure.
>>740926751It's Enel and his trooncord as usual. They've been doing this for a decade in every Xenoblade thread. They hate every single game other than 2 and worship it as a masterpiece of their weird political obsession with games needing coombait and being "anti-woke". Despite the game having very "woke" leaning elements like Malos being implied gay and the Bridget/Morag Lesbianism but they're too autistic and in denial to realize them, despite it being their masterpiece of gaming that they've shilled here for a decade
>>740943958What? That you're retarded, niggy? I hate to break it to you, but I'm way ahead of you.
1 > FR > 2 > 3 > X > Torna > FCI really have a hard time placing 2 and 3. I can't see myself ever doing a completely fresh run of 2 like I could 3 because I really didn't like Blade Gacha(so NG+ only) but the latter also doesn't have the highs of the former. The music of 2 is probably also the best in the series. 1 being that high is purely down to nostalgia but I truly think they are my favorite cast of the series even if they aren't as fleshed out. I felt a twinge of something emotional in Melia's hero quest in 3 because I love the original cast so much (but also hearing the Shulk/Fiora song was funny).
>>740945982What's the play order of the xeno franchise? GearsSaga trilogyXC1, 2, Torna, 3X is wherever?
Time to check out these games again.
Who did you pick?
Random thing about 1DE on Switch 2:One of Sharla's outfits got slightly edited to be more revealing than before.Left is S1, right is S2.