>>740912860
What compels the junkie to keep getting high?

>>740912860
Same argument you can find on literally any corner of the web. Small fanbase enjoys the niche genre and enjoys the loop and wants to keep playing. Marathon as a game would not be a giant issue if it was like from an indie company that didn't throw 0.25 billion at it, Bungie wasn't sunsetting destiny, and it Bungie wasn't releasing a live service game after the Concord Highguard failures. But then again, if my grandmother had handlebars, wheels, and a saddle, she'd be a bike.

>>740912860
Looting shit is addicting and there's codex entries to unlock.

>>740912860
What compels the 4channer to keep shitposting?

>>740913349
>and there's codex entries to unlock.
>he says, implying it was some kind of selling point.

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>>740913453
Maybe not to you, friendo.

A pike fah evry runna

>>740912860
The PvP is fun, you get some cool fights hosing bullets and grenades down the hallways of Hauler while bots come pouring in or creeping through the bushes south of Greenhouse to avoid snipers on the rooftops

fun game

>>740913602
To whom then?
The game already doesn't have a large playerbase and I doubt that all or even most of them are playing for the codex entries.

>>740913770
DYRBI

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>>740912860
>Beep beep beep beeep
>Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

>>740914056
>Already opened up free weekends
>Already offered a big update
Dunno how Bungie shits the bed this bad

>>740912860
I like it. It's got a good story. And design. The only thing that makes me not play it is people and the contracts are impossibly hard.

>go in
>kill people with lesser gear
>rinse and repeat
It's fun. When it's all watered down and balanced then I'll probably uninstall but it's worth it to hear people complain when they're downed from half the map away.

>>740914136
A decade doing jack shit except maintain a live service game that pretty much missed every single content deadline tend to decimate a studio's potential. All the devs that remain at bungie are either absolute dreg, desperate or autistically loyal to the studio.
So it's fairly obvious that when those people were asked to make a full fledged game from scratch, it would be a disaster.

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>You are just a soul
>You upload your soul into a shell
>Maybe you're a masculine destroyer
>Maybe you're a femme thief
>You can be whatever the coporation allows to maximize profit and extract resources from the planet.

Marathon faggots can't quit it because it appeals to their tranny lifestyle.

>>740913846
It was my personal opinions on the question.
I think a large percentage of the playerbase likes running trios, maybe? It's basically Apex legends with more hazards and PvE.

goty.

>>740914056
I don't even know what Bungie is going to do at this point.

>>740914498
>MGS2
Seems right up your alley then.

>>740914639
Ideally, they focus back on Destiny and treat Marathon like a side hobby.

OR

Burn themselves trying to turn an extraction shooter into Destiny. Piss off their core Marathon fan base. Piss off the Destiny players further. Layoff employees until 2027. Shutdown the whole studio in February. Sony adds Destiny and Marathon to their IP refrigerator next to Bloodborne and Jak&Daxter.

>>740914986
Why didn't you play it during the free week?
It mogs destiny. Destiny 2 isn't even a good game.

>>740914468
I can see some truth in that. But, the devs nailed their vision with Marathon. Maps like Cyro and Outpost nail the exact vibe they're going for. When you have the boys on discord, it can feel like you're executing a heist.

It is the strongest 6/10 game I've ever played and I got it for free last season. I'm sure the execs loved it on paper and imagined it making a boat load.

>We're going to sell a PVP treadmill
>This PVP treadmill regulates itself
>The unemployed chads with hundreds of hours will take the loot of the employed casuals.
>They will stream and demonstrate how much fun the game can be and bring in more casuals
>Players will amass loot which they will lose and have to play more in a neverending cycle
>Encase players are too scared to use their loot and to prevent inflation, we will do quarterly wipes
>Everyone loses their loot and start the climb again.
>Unlike Destiny, we wont have to balance for a gun that came in year 1 during year 8.
>We can sunset anything at will.

IN REALITY
>Chad kills the casual player
>Casual player loses their good gear
>Quits

What if the casual is good?
>Casual has lots of loot but no friends
>Plays Crew Fill
>Gets 2 friendless retards
>Matchmaking doesn't care if you're 3 solos crew filling or a premade
>The playerbase is probably to small to do so
>Maybe they exfil with good success
>The addiction is setting in
>What's next?
>Cyro Archive

You literally cannot progress in Cyro Archive without a dedicated team. I'd challenge anyone to start fresh and make it to Compiler using crew fill only. No repeat teams either. Pure teammate RNG. Unless you're a pro gamer that can win multiple 1v3's, you are not solving more than 3 vaults by the season's wipe. I challenge anyone to that.

By that point, the casual will realize they can only ever be a loot pinata and quit. The best thing a casual can do in Marathon is quit.

>>740914498
The wild ass colors that offend my eyes makes sense now

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guys.
not that I give a shit, but what is the big fuff about this game???
as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to be loaded with blacks and gays. looks pretty cool actually.
yet certain groups of people seem hellbent on seeing it fail, like Concord

>>740917353
autism

>>740917353
>looks pretty cool actually.
Source? looks more like ugly derivative gunslop

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>>740912860
Sunk cost fallacy

>>740912860
no other game gives me the rush like downing a bunch of purples trying to do a key room.
seriously I cant name one, when this dies I will probably try tarkov and pvp ARC but I doubt they will deliver the same experience.

>normal people don't care about a sweaty version of extraction
>destiny players hate your game from siphoning resources away from destiny
>you can't create new players because your company has been terrible at on-boarding since destiny 1
>your tiny loyal audience are self-victimizing sycophants and troons
what an embarrassing final game for bungie

>>740914056
Below 20k already?
If I hated Bungie even a little less I'd feel bad for them.

>>740917597
A lot of people got filtered by the wipe, and not enough people got roped in by the free week to replace them.
Things will only go down from here.

>>740917596
Don't post. You have nothing to say. You're a shit excuse for a person that needs others to be worse to be satisfied. Something good comes along you try and make it bad.

>>740917704
tick tock

>>740917704
We found the self-victimizing sycophant, troon or both!

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>>740912860
Cant put a price on owning the chuds
But its about $4 billion dollars and counting

>>740917871
How are they owning chuds?

>>740912860
Cryo is fun, there's a constant 10 decisions to make on what to do or where to go based on:
immediate local feedback (footsteps, bot sounds, gunfights),
medium term (held keys, meta knowledge of other teams progress, sec level, have/found gear etc)
long term (gotta do x vault, have X quest, gotta kill all other teams).
and the game is fast enough that these are constantly in flux.

At any point there's a depth of unknown/changing state and time pressure and conflicting goals, I cant think of another shooter game that combines all these as well as Marathon does.
and most people never even make it to this point of play because they die immediately to someone like me and quit, there's no way for them to learn without applying themselves.

anyway that's why I will play it until it peters out and then be chasing the dragon forever probably.

>>740912860
Stockholm Syndrome.

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>>740912860
I like it because it feels immersive. When I play solo, it really feels like I'm dropping into a hostile world as a merc with no human rights that's treated as expendable garbage. Everything in the game hates you; the UESC, the various factions, Durandal's subroutines, the planet itself, the mechanics of the game, other players, your own team mates sometimes if you do play trios. It's a game routed in the idea that to experience it you're going to have to suffer and experience set back after set back. Season wipes are you just getting your memory wiped and taxxed to shit by the corp that owns your soul. Gear you get you rarely get to hold onto for long. Gunfights start and end in the blink of an eye because of the quick kill time. It's an intentionally crafted torture chamber for the mentally weak, and to enjoy it you have to be able to withstand failure after failure after failure.

Growing immune to the failure, accompanied with the codex entries hinting at the idea of Runners becoming sharpened blades against a whetstone, perfectly honed into killing machines from exposure to constant violence, just feels exciting and real. Maybe it's chuuni and lame to people but I feel it. I'm a better player now with all the times I've died. I've killed people in ways I wouldn't be able to fathom in my first 100 hours, and I've capitalised on the smallest of mistakes that others make that propels me into success. Feeling that evolution and directly seeing the results is satisfying. It feels like I'm playing a different game with all the shiny shit I have in comparision to the muck and garbage people can scrape together. Taking all of that shiny gear and unwravelling the mysteries of the game by hunting down the codex entries is a good feeling I haven't felt in other games. Also the aesthetics of the game kick ass, so that's a plus.

>>740912860
All the people I know who play marathon often play deadlock 3x as much and rainbow six

>>740915892
>Neither are healthy
>I received it a copy for free at launch to review

I just think Marathon players will be happier if Marathon isn't Bungie's main focus. They're going to lobotimize the extraction shooter elements to cast a larger net. They already added a PvE mode when Rook was meant to be the game's recovery mechanic. But good Rooks could wipe a team so they had to nerf Rooks. That shorty shotgun was too good.

I'd bet when the next endgame raid map comes out. There will be PvE Cyro to try and win some of the Destiny crowd. Compiler is already designed like a dungeon boss fight. PvE modes will enable powercreep and no one will be rocking blues and below.

If it stays a side hobby, they can keep it being a PvP game with a dedicated but small fan base. But, would Sony allow that? I doubt it.

Bungie is just fucked. Sony paid 3.63 billion and want that money NOW.

I'm sure guerilla games is happy. Horizon Fortnite has no pressure now. If they fail, they can point to Bungie- the masters of live service and their failure with Marathon and say "Well, they didn't do much better."

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>>740913185
Found this pic of your grandma bro, you should probably tell her to take that shit down

>>740914468
In all fairness this is because of the decision to go for an extraction shooter and not pick a realistic setting for it. Hell they didn't even pick a standard sci-fi one but instead went with some weird ass 3d-printer pre-launch prototype car paint design on fucking everything.

The 2nd main thing is the lack of content. How the fuck are you gonna penetrate the live service games market, where the major competitors have already amassed a lot of content over time and are already on their 20th season or something, by launching a f2p model game for FORTY fucking bucks without a single player campaign, with only 3 fucking maps and less than 10 character classes. Oh and the endgame map mode is specifically designed to filter anyone by the top tier skilled players. Wow great idea bungo.

Further more even after the initial flop, the retards still don't understand the reason for it. What do they do with season 2? Just a rehash of a previous map, only now its more shit because its night time only and you cant see shit anymore.

Oh and keep in mind that these already dire steamchart numbers are gonna plummet down to the double digits once summer vacations are over after July and all the kids leave and you can already imagine what happens once GTA6 comes out.

>>740914136
Probably by consistently shitting all over one of the most psychotically loyal fanbases in all of gaming as if having a dedicated following that big and that strong isn't something most devs would kill for. They had the lowest bar ever with Destiny tards essentially telling Bungie "just give me the bare minimum and I'll be happy bro please I'm begging you just the absolute bare minimum is all I want from you" and Bungie basically said "best I can do is spit in your face and kick your dog"

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>>740918818
800k of them still boughted it LAMO
get what you deserve. bungie had been black listed by both activision and microsoft so sony knew what they were getting and did it anyway.

>>740918534
im more impressed that R6S is alive in some capacity

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>>740918818
>The bare minimum
>$20 for 3 dungeons

Marathon is around $25 and probably didn't sell as well as a Destiny map pack.

>>740914498
Most trans people I've met have been very anti corporation

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>>740912860
It's fun

>>740919546
I checked out when they removed drugs and dead bodies.

One of the only fun things to do in that game was kill someone, lie down in their body and get a surprise kill on another player.

I bet a part of Kojima died when he saw Solid Snake as an operator.

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>>740912860
It's fun

>>740918756
I'd argue they didn't go alien enough for a new planet. Dire Marsh had weird anomalous walls just to block vision. Yet the assets around the walls were levitating.

>Do the walls alter the players gravity?
>Do they enhance the player in anyway?
>No. That would be fun.

Idk how the same company that made the Vex couldn't make a diverse cast of robots to fight either. Bungie is finished.

>>740912860
I like the game but some days I really wish it wasn't an extraction shooter.

>>740912860
i play it just because those annoying ass "make destiny 3" threads keep getting spammed.

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>>740912860
The Free Weekend didn't work at all, and now the game is back to the numbers it had a few weeks ago

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>>740920969
meanwhile on destiny 2
sony will regret discontinuing support for destiny 2 and continuing to prioritize marathon

>>740918502
Legitimately sounds like an excellent game.
It's a shame they made it a live service.

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>>740920969
>More Runners are actually playing this hardcore shooter on console.
>Steam charts are just a fraction of players

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If it dies it dies because AAA game dev and tech as a whole are a complete shit show.
It depends on how much of a shitshow it will be post sony lay offs. Upside of a PVP game is that less content can go a lot further because the challenge is mostly from the players (see counter strike players playing the same maps for almost 20 years). It might be able to limp along and continue living, which i hope it does cause its an amazing game.

>>740912860
cryo archive is literal hell

>>740917353
It's legit a bad game, but a pretty good beta-demo. It's like an MMO in the wild west phase before the classes all get flattened and the meta gets etched in stone. The time of wacky, clever playing and it's PvP. I like it for that.
>it cöösted Bunghole $250 million!
Not my problem
>it needs PvE
No, there's a million carebear games available and be real the PvP is not so brutal if you're even a little bit good
>muh lore!
It lives in a hermetically sealed box away from the gameplay. You can safely ignore it. The Marathon name is wasted on this, but again, not my problem.

>>740912860
It's an easy game to sit and play a few quick matches here and there.

>>740921296
"Almost" 20 years?? IIRC Office came out pre-Source and Dust2 in 2005

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>>740912860
>What compels the Marathon player to keep playing?
i like to skin people

>>740912860
Rook runs on Outpost are like their own little subgenre within the game where you’re playing pure stealth, it’s exhilarating pulling off a pacifist heist and getting out with zero bot or player kills.

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>>740912860
>What compels the Marathon player to keep playing?
Killing other players for Arachne.

>>740918818
The smart thing would have been to spin Destiny off as it's own company and use it as a feeder tank for talent. Ancient, garbage MMOs are still rolling, no reason they had to can Destiny outright.

>>740918502
This anon gets it. They had a vision with the game, and for all the noise that surrounds it over playercounts, they really landed it.

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>>740922894
Based Arachnefag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8I_IPOqvQ0

>>740912860
I want to know what happened to dat Durandussy.

>>740920969
Making Marathon permanently free to play will fix this!

I like the artstyle and world I guess

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>>740912860
I just like the game. I think it's fun.

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>it...
>it was fun
>*BEEEEEEEP*

>frens wants me to play marathon but I am not interested because it looks like destiny 2 pvp
>suddenly free play so I give it a go with them
>it's destiny 2 pvp
and it plays like shiiiiiiiit too

>>740925319
bulll shit destiny 2 pvp is like halo but worse, marathon feels way better

>>740925381
It's literally destiny 2 pvp with a new coat of paint. At one point the line was so blurred I attempted to close the gap like I do with my titan
I don't know how they managed to trick you into paying 40 bucks for this

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What compels you to keep making these threads?

>>740925614
it's got similar gun feel and bungie trademarks like forgiving headshots but that's like, it
it's a much slower paced game and there's much more cat & mouse going on in the average fight compared to whatever the fuck destiny 2's pvp was with people flying around corners and throwing instagib grenades and junk

>>740917353
Destiny fans don't want anyone to have a Bungie game but them. They think their gay space magic Star wars shit is the coolest thing ever.

>>740912954
It feels great unlike playing Flopathon.

>>740914639
Implode is my guess.

>>740925727
All I ever hear about this shit is "amazing bungie gunplay"
Yet when I played it all I saw was zero recoil aim snapping laser beams. Thats utter garbage and pure console shit. The reason people play tarkov is because it's tacticool barbie dolls and you find shit for your doll house.
Marathon has nothing at all. This isn't helped by the hero powers and preset cash shop cosmetics. Fuck why have a modular art style and no modular character customising what the fuck bro

>>740912860
to rape and to be raped

the setting and lore are interesting

the colors are nice and colorful

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FLOP FLOP FLOP
GO BANKRUPT
FLOP FLOP FLOP
GO GANKRUPT

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>>740918818
Sony JP really got the last raugh

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>>740921016
why can't the corpos stop deepthroating their shotguns? they could just continue support on destiny 2

>>740912860
It's fun

People shit on this game's art style, but if it looked like just another sci-fi shooter, it wouldn't have even half of its current player count.

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>>740912860
I like the sound, OST, and atmosphere

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>>740913846
>To whom then?
Firstly, appreciate the correct usage of whom.
Secondly, me. I just picked up on this from two different codex entries last night. I'm a sucker for this stuff.
The fact that the gameplay is fun and compelling helps.

>>740932353
This is why not adding new priority contracts in season 2 was such a big mistake. It was another form of progression/storytelling, but now I already know all the stories. I was really curious what would come of SIMMbiote experimentation you did for Sekiguchi. I assumed that would have been the justification for the Cradle system.

>>740912860
All the remaining authentic flesh and blood Marathon players are psychos.

Should've just made a PvE game with the extraction shit as a side mode.

>>740933078
Yeah I joined this season and finding out it's the same stories for the faction contracts each time is kind of lame. Hopefully they add new stuff for the next one.

>>740933212
They probably will. The whole premise of the game is that the story advances with the season. We saw a bit of that this season with more UESC activity on Perimeter and Night Marsh and Night Marsh having story items talk about the present as well as the past. But that's not much. Maybe they'll have new priority contracts every 2 seasons, idk.

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Imagine reviving the literal precursor to Halo and turning it into $40 Apex Legends but with Tarkov shit stapled to it

especially in an age where co-op PvE and friendslop sell like hotcakes. fucking baffling decision made by a board room full of fossils

sorry this game isn't for me, it's too tranny coded

>>740912860
>What compels the Marathon player to keep playing?
It's a fun game?

>>740933202
Rumor has it this was a Destiny 2 mode that got greenlit to be a full game after Sony bought Bungie and it makes sense

>bungie broke cryo and had to turn it off

lmao

>>740912860
Sunk cost fallacy

Marathon players?

>>740934240
It’s World Cup chud, we will play after… uhhhh…

>>740933883
Did they fire their entire QA team or what? They had to disable the Bioresearch locked room instead of making that one bugged bioprinter unlootable, or I dunno, PULLING ALL THE SHUTTERS DOWN
I thought this was going to be a new game without Destiny spaghetti code.

>>740933818
Good fuck those tranny lovers only thing out of them over the past couple years was how hecking inclusive they are

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>>740934852
It was also possible queue into duos as a Rook for a while, even though they were supposed to be restricted to just survival night marsh.

>>740912860
Blast havers gotta blast have

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Playing a bunch of solo survival Perimeter made me realize that a pure PvE mode might work. It would require quite a bit of work, but it's possible.

>>740920559
That looks like absolute shit dawg. I'll go play some Cultic.

>>740912860
I like the art style
I like dark sci fi horror
I like piecing together the lore from the lore loot
I like seeing my vault stash value go up. getting stronger with different rarer runner core builds and progressing the factions and cradle
I like the pvp at its basic level, it feels like somewhere between halo and apex
I like that its a challenging game

I enjoyed S1
I am enjoying S2
I am looking forward to S3, especially to see the new runner shell and am curious how often they add new shells

>>740935871
I wish they gave us a fucking roadmap.

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15k for a 24 hour peak.
Not great. Not terrible.

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>>740936041
>"season 2 will save marathon!"
>f2p period stops
>peak numbers back to what they were at the end of season 1

Its a shame, i like the gameplay well enough, classic buttery smooth bungie gunplay in particular but everything else about the game made it doomed from the outset.

Journos running defence was the final nail in the coffin, if kotaku puts out a "fuck the haters" article your game is done, completely cooked no chance of recovery

>>740936519
>classic buttery smooth bungie gunplay
Idk, I don't like how the shotguns feel in this game.

>>740936624
Never used them tbqh, i mostly used the energy guns which handled like modern versions of the HALO plasma weapons but looked 50X worse sadly

>reload energy weapon
>ammo stolen

shit game

>>740936886
I've only used the WSTR and Circuit Breaker so far, and for both of them, I barely realize that I've actually shot them. Especially Circuit Breaker since you need to charge it.

>>740936953
>Slide while holding energy weapon or stow it
>Free ammo

>>740936367
>Add a new boss as a finish line
>Players beat boss.
>They reached the season 1 finish line
>Wipe everyone's inventories

>Season 2
>Introduce no new finish line.
>Add Cyro again
>Same finish line

Gee, I wonder why players didn't return. Anyone sane or employed person is not going to grind again to do the same shit because the devs wiped their inventories. You'd think Bungie would've learned this with the great sunset of Destiny that people still bitch about to this day.

>>740936953
you didn't reject the clip first!

>>740937157
Well, there are plenty of those insane or unemployed people to go around, especially in videogames. Yet bungie still fails to grab their attention.

>>740936953
I found a core for Vandal that reloads your ballistic weapons when you power slide, but it recharges the batteries in your energy weapons. It was free ammo just for sliding around which you do anyway

A single stack of 3x volt batteries lasted me about 7 games, really efficient. Battery good

>>740937157
I haven't beaten the Compiler last season (I only have the 2 first subroutines), so that finish line still exists for me.

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>no new story contracts
incompetent retards

>>740937721
Theres night marsh story contracts + new lore drops there tho

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>>740937721
It can get hot in the summer, too.

>>740916924
4 maps

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>>740938050
Continental climate is atrocious. I've lived in Omsk and in the American Midwest and it's cold as fuck in winter and hot with insects in the sumemr.

>>740938291
4 big maps

Fuck the maidenless chuds, I had a BLAAAAAST

>>740923315
There seems to be a degree of spite with Bungie and Sony concerning Destiny 2. Like they're actually mad that the player base would rather continue playing Destiny than move over to Marathon like they wanted. It's surreal.

>>740938049
They don't even have "cutscenes", and those are just a looping animation with some dialogue. Supreme laziness.

>>740938572
It's an extraction game, not a team deathmatch. Big maps are a necessity for the genere in the first place. Still doesn't excuse that there is only 4 of them despite the time and money that were poured into this or the number of developers that worked on it.

>>740938657
Or instead of anything like that, it's very much a monetary decision. Continuing to create enough content for something like D2 likely wouldn't have been possible while keeping it profitable in terms of all dev costs (Destiny had never turned significant profit in the fiscal quarters after Sony's purchase of Bungie), so the company is forced to downsize and shifts gears to a game that is cheaper to maintain and develop for a studio their size. The growth with D2 had long since stopped regardless of the quality of the game, largely because f2p accounted for the intense number of players flooding into the game and practically the only thing that made profit was the MTX, so what you had was a constantly ballooning studio built around a single decade old game that already had done more than enough to burn bridges with those players as well. So how does a development studio move forward from that? They downshift, lay off staff and attempt to cultivate what they can. If Bungie becomes some full Sony subsidiary at some point is anyone's guess, but in terms of unique Sony live service IP's, Marathon is the only one that hasn't imploded straight in the crib. The best of both worlds is that Bungie really does turn into the indie size studio it's always memed to be and works on the projects they want to work on. Destiny, Halo and the large amount of blubber attached to the studio will peel off and they'll go more niche.

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>>740932353
My favorite bit of environmental worldbuilding is the fact that you can see a bunch of other pinwheel ships, just like the one in Outpost, out of the windows of Cryo Archive, still attached to the UESC Marathon.

>>740939235
What extraction shooters have you made?

>>740939527
What about you, since you brought it up?

>>740939580
I'm having a blast

>>740939441
Makes me wonder what all that infrastructure was for, if New Cascadia really only had ~30k colonists. Deimos and by extension Marathon is fucking huge, and there are a ton of ruins.

>>740939676
It's probably meant for the long term. The colony's population was supposed to grow. And other than the 30k frozen colonists, there was also a population of BoBs.

>>740939676
If i was engineering a ship this size, my first thought would be to attach multiple modular units in case of unit failures and future expansions even if they're not used straight away.

>>740939638
So, none. Glad we cleared that up.

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>>740939850
>>740939441
>>740939802
One of the retcons (if you can even call it that, you barely saw an image of the complete Marathon ship in the original trilogy) I like is the ship's shape, the straight needle design looks cool as fuck. Old Marathon looked like a walnut, or the Onslaught from Starsector.

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>>740940168
Speaking of, I don't like how spherical Marathon's rock shell looks. Deimos is like a potato.

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>>740912860
Solos is a fun stealth experience i don't get anywhere else. Trios is degenerate horseshit though.

>>740940390
mogus

>>740918502
>hen I play solo, it really feels like I'm dropping into a hostile world as a merc with no human rights that's treated as expendable garbage. Everything in the game hates you; the UESC, the various factions, Durandal's subroutines, the planet itself, the mechanics of the game, other players, your own team mates sometimes if you do play trios. It's a game routed in the idea that to experience it you're going to have to suffer and experience set back after set back. Season wipes are you just getting your memory wiped and taxxed to shit by the corp that owns your soul. Gear you get you rarely get to hold onto for long. Gunfights start and end in the blink of an eye because of the quick kill time. It's an intentionally crafted torture chamber for the mentally weak, and to enjoy it you have to be able to withstand failure after failure after failure.
>anon describes a basic ass extraction shooter
>shits his pants
holy shit play more games

>>740917353
Combination of bottom blasted Destiny addicts having their girlfriend-brand break up with them and shazamniggers still chasing the high of concord desperate to meme magic another tortanic into happening for a moment of release.

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>>740940390
>the interior of Deimos was heavily excavated to fit all those trusses and rooms and equipment
>all that rock had to be dumped somewhere so they piled it on the surface
>Deimos is symmetrical now

>>740940639
Post like these are why people cheer for Marathon's death.

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ouch, what the fuck
<1000 is insane

>>740940639
Personally, it was because there is/was such a push to defend this game from journalists and shills.
Also I really dislike the live service push. If the AAA industry wants to make slop, at lest they could make slop that don't force their players on a constant treadmill of time waste and microtransactions.

>>740940634
>anon describes a basic ass extraction shooter
Not him but you can get that experience unless you speak Russian and play Tarkov. And even then it's more of a PUBG theme park these days.

>>740940892
>B...but burntpeanut shilled for us! he said the game was better than arc raiders!

>>740921016
Yall acting like these numbers wont go back down to the same amount as Marathon after a week or so. Just look at the chart.

>>740940892
that is so funny, arc raiders lost 95% of its players, lost all the big streamers, announced they were going into maintenance mode and marathon STILL couldnt beat its player counts or twitch viewers. i remember the shills saying marathon was going to kill arc raiders.

>>740940892
It's not even fun to play, why would it be fun to watch?

>>740940920
What time waste? what microtransactions? its a buy to play product where 90% of the playerbase load in every match with the free loadouts and play it like a roguelite.

>>740912860
What were they thinking with the tranny art style

>>740941087
>What time waste?
Gear gathering for cryo archive, which you can lose at a moment's notice throught normal gameplay?
>what microtransactions?
The lux and the skins?

>>740941139
/pol/yps will look at you straight in the eye, call Synthetik trans,then refuse being called schizophrenic

>>740917894
They aren't, which is why the price keeps going up.

>>740941410
It's a pretty grave insult to compare synthetik's artstyle to this trashfire.

>>740941031
Even if the numbers crash they still peaked much higher. Which means it has much more earning potential even if it is only in short bursts before everyone leaves again.

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>We recommend git gud instead of fixing our game

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Lmao

>>740917597
below 20k because they just got off a free weekend, it was below 10k before that

>>740941594
Meanwhile Destiny 2 has 90,000 on an early Friday afternoon.

>>740941594
>start of the season
>already down to end of season numbers
remember, this is WITH the weekend boost. next monday may be the first ever sub 10k peak day. two weeks into the season. lmao.

>>740941746
>may be the first ever sub 10k peak day.
Did that already happen near the end of season 1?

>>740916924
>>Matchmaking doesn't care if you're 3 solos crew filling or a premade
Yikes

>>740941851
no was hovering slightly above 10k but never reached it.

>>740918502
I get this exact experience from modded STALKER and don't have to deal with a shit aesthetic or GaaSlop garbage.

>>740920969
>a week into season 2 and almost back down to end of season 1 numbers
Yep, it's over.

>>740941923
The cool aesthetic is the only reason to play it

>>740928090
>77%
Uh oh, they better go start begging on discord again

>>740940892
Extraction shooters are just not that watchable. It's one of those games that I'd rather go play myself.

>>740941079
Games that aren't fun to play can absolutely be fun to watch. Depends on the streamer.

>>740941393
Cryo is a time limited thing only a few hundred people care about and the skins are mostly earned by playing with a certain factions free kit or getting for free using points you gain by levelling up called silk. lux is just for whales that want to skip the playing the game and buy shit directly but thats ugly cash shop shit that makes you visible from half the map away. The game runs on dead by daylight rules. Did you get the basic bitch skin for using this free kit? great thats active camo for X map.

>>740942250
>cool aesthetic
Different strokes for different folks, I think it looks atrocious.

>>740916924
>I got it for free
How?

>>740938050
>77F
That's April weather in Canada

>>740942558
It's a marketer

>>740918756
>The 2nd main thing is the lack of content. How the fuck are you gonna penetrate the live service games market, where the major competitors have already amassed a lot of content over time and are already on their 20th season or something, by launching a f2p model game for FORTY fucking bucks without a single player campaign, with only 3 fucking maps and less than 10 character classes.
Excellent point.

>>740919758
>I checked out when they removed drugs and dead bodies.
Why TF would they do that?

>>740912860
Sunk cost fallacy

alarmingly common these days when people are too proud to admit they made a bad choice

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>>740941534
That's not what's being said. That's an old message from before Cryo Archive was turned off due to this issue. It's still not back.

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>>740942886
>Everyone who liked games I don't like is suffering from sunken cost fallacy

>>740942482
>only a few hundred people care about
Well, with that steam player count I don't doubt that the number is somewhat accurate but what's the point of locking what's essentially 25% of your game to a minority hardcore playerbase? And if it's not an objective for most people, what's the motivation for even playing this game? If it's just endless shooty killkill with wipes every few months, how is that not a treadmill by itself?
>thats ugly cash shop shit
So, you do agree that it's microtransactions. Ugly or not ugly, doesn't really change the reality of what it is.

The game is ugly. In a niche genre. It has a bad economic model. No content.

It's a miracle Sony hasn't moved every dev onto another project and put the game on life support as is.

>>740943241
>what's the point of locking what's essentially 25% of your game to a minority hardcore playerbase?
What do you mean? Who is being locked out of Cryo Archive, and how?
>And if it's not an objective for most people, what's the motivation for even playing this game?
Well, last season had priority contracts. But they are the same this season, so people who played season 1 have no incentive to do them outside of faction XP.

>>740943241
The thing is theres a massive misconception by both the devs and the public who havent tried it about what the appeal is. People go "but cryo is locked behind XYZ" and its not. People just don't care.

Marathon was expected to be destiny patrol zones with gambit invaders but in execution its a lot more like halo reach and metal gear online thrown in a blender. Its majority appeal is not the close quarter esports sloppa the director desperately wanted at all. Its people using the free kits to play the game as a roguelike. Because going in with nothing makes everything you leave with feel more rewarding and then you funnel that into the cradle to increase your seasonal stats so now your free kit also has more melee damage or faster heals to make your runs better.

The thing is thats a userbase that likes everything but cryo. The big open maps with bases, tunnels and points of interest on an alien planet. Cryo on the other hand is an enclosed very samey looking collection of hangers and corridors that feels like a bunch of destiny pvp maps stitched together and it just lacks that same vibe.

Case in point theres this wall running through the beginner map with open sections on the scafolding you can use to cut through and in one end theres a human in a ruptured hazmat suit stuck halfway up the wall buried in fungus growing out of her mouth. its a level of "what happened here?" shit you notice on a big open map with lots of nooks and crannies. In cryo its esports sickos constantly on the move paranoid about being double teamed by two other equally twitchy/sweaty teams of paranoid players all with the specific mindset of "i came in with all my best shit, if i wipe its not just a loss i'm worse than when i came in". Which is a totally different appeal.

Personally i enjoy the other maps solo where i'm playing it as a stealth game. What was that noise? what direction? do i risk making noise for the reward? different audiences entirely.

>>740918502
>It's a game routed in the idea that to experience it you're going to have to suffer and experience set back after set back.
What part of this sounds appealing to a working adult that plays video games to unwind?

>>740943830
>Cryo on the other hand is an enclosed very samey looking collection of hangers and corridors that feels like a bunch of destiny pvp maps stitched together and it just lacks that same vibe.
I do like the vibe of Cryo Archive a lot, but once you realize its structure, it feels very cramped despite its size.

>>740944095
Why should it have to?

>>740944132
Its bad design for a different esports focussed game. Kill boxes for things like grenades and ironically linear lines of sight. Compare to all the other maps where that clutter allows shit like "i was crouched on one of those super thick cables because dumbass players simply don't look up" and sneaking about is more fun because shots can come from damn near any direction near a building and out in the wilderness theres huge areas of little cover and you gotta be ready to boost or slide or grapple or whatever at a moments notice risking overheating.

Its very loosely the regular halo pvp maps versus big team battle and most prefer the horseshit of big team battle.

>>740943528
>Who is being locked out of Cryo Archive, and how?
solo players are being locked out of cryo archive by not being able to play the end game content as a solo.

>>740944691
Oh, yeah, fair. Solo Cryo would require some changes, but duos Cryo would be great.

Perimiter, Darsh and Outpost are made for people that like Halo and Metal Gear, Cryo is made for people who like Rainbow Six Siege. We are not the same.

>>740944246
see
>>740941594

>>740944132
>>740944550
Cryo archive is built like an OG boomershooter (aka: original Marathon games) or system shock 1. Your zoomer is showing.

>>740912860
They know it isn't a Sprint...

...But a Marathon. *wink*

>>740945367
By that logic it is mandatory and goos to appeal to trannies and nigs with jewish propaganda.

>>740945414
I dont think you have any idea what the term means beyond "game my step dad plays" lil' cuz.

>>740914136
>Dunno how Bungie shits the bed this bad
I do.

>Remembers them having to be tardwrangled all of MicroSlops tenure
>Somehow SOMEHOW strikes lightning 3 times with Halo by cobbling together multiplayer maps in the 11th hour with extreme crunch

>>740944246
It seems like a really bad idea to hinge your company's future on an expensive AAA game that only NEETs or students with tons of free time would realistically invest in.

>>740945414
I (>>740944132) never claimed that Cryo Archive is built like anything. I'm just not a big fan of how it's built and the kind of gameplay it encourages. Also, I've player Marathon 1, and the absolute, dead last things you want to take from it and put into another game is the level design. And I don't think that Cryo is built like System Shock 1, either. I would love a UESC Marathon map built like something from System Shock, though.

>>740941746
That requires them not botting it. Season 1 was nearly there until somehow MYSTERIOUSLY 1,000 players showed up every day for the last week or so of Season 1.

>>740945826
>MYSTERIOUSLY 1,000 players showed up every day for the last week or so of Season 1
Maybe they wanted to spend their loot and/or finish up the contracts.

The numbers are very odd. Like they added a "fun police bundle" that was a Recon Skin, Gun Skin and a bunch of cash shop currency for like 8 bucks and it sold over 250,000 times on steam and popularity reports show PS5 playerbase has significantly grown since the free trial and most people are running into console players on randoms. It doesn't seem to have followed any expected routes from release and best people can guess is theres a lot more players playing a lot less across more platforms. Like s1 was a hardcore central number putting in a hundred hours over a couple of weeks but theres way more but playing like two matches a day tops.

>>740945986
>Like they added a "fun police bundle" that was a Recon Skin, Gun Skin and a bunch of cash shop currency for like 8 bucks and it sold over 250,000 times on steam
I bought it, too, and then used the cash to buy the Sentinel skin.

>>740945986
>fart out slightly different coloured skin
>make 2 million dollars from steam alone
skins were the greatest con gaming ever pulled.

I like playing marathon but I prefer hunt showdown overall. The looting and grinding was fun but kinda bored with it. I like Hunt because there's minimal looting and everyone just wants to have fun cowboy shootouts. best extraction shooter on the market imo. best shooter outright actually.

I don't think Marathon will survive many more seasons unless bungo adds way more content. A PvE mode in its current state would be complete ass, but a Halo style singleplayer campaign would be sick. I think an arena style PvP mode with blue level free kits would be cool, there needs to be a way to practice higher level pvp so people want to bring in better items and stop using free kits.

>>740912860
"Small but extremely dedicated community" is a niche but perfectly sustainable business model. I say this as someone who still plays a reboot of a 2007 Java MMO in Old School RuneScape.

Marathon may never grow to Destiny numbers, but I'd argue that it doesn't have to. The core base of Marathon players are about as hardcore as it gets, absolutely ride or die with the game every single day. These fans will buy every battle pass, and routinely purchasing LUX for new cosmetics. I cannot be convincing otherwise, because the Marathon fanbase is one of the most passionate I've ever seen, regardless of its size.

I don't see a world where Marathon's core players dip because of a balance update or new PvE/PvP mode. The game has the potential to change radically over time to allure new players, all while still maintaining its base of fans who keep buying the battle passes and premiums currencies.

The doom and gloom I'm seeing over season 2's numbers seems super hyperbolic. It's competing with a highly praised Destiny 2 update, and after folks finish up with the sunset D2 they'll naturally migrate over to Marathon.

>>740945986
>it sold over 250,000 times on steam
Source on that?

>>740946828
This reads exactly like an AI generated PR statement to shareholders lmao

>>740919618
All dungeons are free now.

>>740946828
That doesn't work when just keeping the game running from server costs and whatever employee salaries to keep the game running, much less actually creating content updates, runs you in the hundreds of thousands a month. And that is on top of the 250-400m price point. Marathon doesn't need a small niche community until its more than a year old. It needs a large community right now, or it won't ever make its money back.

>>740946346
None of the guns in Hunt ever felt satisfying to use for me, and I was always waiting for an interesting weather condition when loading in and disappointed when it was the same shit over and over again.

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>>740945986
right right, im sure they can support 500 devs working on this game being 62 on the steam top seller list

>>740914639
I mean it's pretty much confirmed Sony is dissolving them isn't it?

>>740945826
sure dude, you can't admit to being wrong so you think it was botted. KEKW

>>740947350
Dissolving? Not, it's "restructuring".

>>740946828
>40k hardcore ride or die players that will always be there is sustainable!
>30k hardcore ride or die players that will always be there is sustainable!
>20k hardcore ride or die players that will always be there is sustainable!
>10k hardcore ride or die players that will always be there is sustainable!
Loving every laugh

>>740914136
it's a game no one wants to play, simple as that. you can't fix it without literally changing the entire game

>>740939438
Actual fucking nonsense. Why is this bullshit being repeated so often this past week? That's not how a business works.

>>740946828
I pity the redditor/ChatGPT instance that typed that out. Do they not teach basic economics in high school anymore?

>>740946828
>after folks finish up with the sunset D2 they'll naturally migrate over to Marathon.
You're retarded. Just because the majority of Marathon players came over from Destiny doesn't mean that Destiny's player base wants to play Marathon. The vast bulk of Destiny players hate Marathon and want nothing to do with it.

Player count cuts by half every 6 days, at this point its just a sunk cost fallacy, like owning a switch2.

What THE FUCK is up with this "game"?
>Extraction shooter
>Best loot is free
>Boss loot is locked to weekend gated event
>Quirk chungus 3d printer skittles bot designs
>Zero character customising options
>$19 dollars just to use solid red color on your shit
Which giga brain yachob retard green lit this? What is the point of a looter shooter that you can't show off your god damn loot?

>>740948110
>zero character customization
>solid red color is $19
These are just both lies man, the game throws skins at you and your guns the whole time

>>740948260
To be fair, most free skins suck. Other than the Compiler ones (Sentinel still doesn't have one, btw), they are all recolors.

>>740948260
>George Droid black $0
>George Droid more black $0
>$19 for cyber punk trench coat
Fuck off you stupid mother fucker

>>740948594
marvel rivals sells skins for like 15-30 bucks, and people buy that shit like hotcakes (mainly the coom ones, but still