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>>740913554>More of a straightforward RPG that irons out the problems with the leveling and monster systems>Plot is just as sci-fi and weird >Can't get invested in it like I did with the other twoThere's something about FF Legend/SaGa 3 I can't quite describe but it's just not the same as 1 or 2
>>740914863You can eat people
>>740914863It literally isnt, Kawazu and the team that made 1 and 2 were making Romancing SaGa, but the Game Boy games were too lucrative to not make a third one so they got some guys together to make itThe same team behind FFL3/SaGa 3 would also make Mystic Quest and Treasure of the Rudras
>>740916418>B-Team worked on 3Would explain the suspicious lack of Kawazu bullshit
>>740917395>filenameIIRC there's some npc or sign or something somewhere that tells you what row/column to check there. I don't remember exactly what but I know the game tells you.Been way too long since I've played SaGa 1.
>>740917549The two previous rooms have a horizontal and vertical line of orbs. Any retard would guess to check where they intersect.
>>740914863Final fantasy legend is a weird game. I'm old and had it brand new back in the day and have a ton of nostalgia with it. But you can get soft locked easy. I love it for nostalgia but can't recommend it
>>740913554>>740914863Holy mother of soul, I grew up with these. All I can remember is the machine gun sounds and always worrying about how many charges/uses of attacks and weapons I had left, and eating monster meat to mutate lol. Had no idea it had absolutely nothing to do with Final Fantasy until over a decade later. Absolutely bizarre games, but it's what we had
>>740913554was the first one the one that started as a mana game?
>>740920194that was final fantasy adventurechrist, square in the 90s really did have to put "final fantasy" on fucking everything
>>740920271so you mean square had a final fantasy adventure AND a final fantasy legend series on game boy?
>>740914863The only thing I remember about these games is that I just couldn't seem to hit with the higher level attack items, so I ended up constantly running back to the first town to restock on the basic bitch noob weapons. They hardly did damage, but at least they hit.
>>740921172I think 2 fucked with the accuracy formula and had hit chance based on agility so if you had your characters using strength weapons, they'd miss way more.
>>740920393The mana games (adventure) are an actual spinoff, SaGa (legend) was just branded as final fantasy in the west despite not being related.
>>740913554>16 posts into a Final Fantasy Legend III thread>No one's posted the Mother Fucking Talon ThemeYou have all failed.
>>740922952Why didn't you?
>>740914863I only played the first one and I really loved it. Intensely creative and memorable, it's like a lucid dream that expands your mind and stays with you.
>>740920271Only on Seiken Densetsu (FF gaiden). It was purely a localization stunt for the SaGa games.
>>740922023>in the westin burgerland
>>740924018>Market the series as being part of Final Fantasy>Completely drop the title change without even a minor reference to it so people know what to expectWhat were they thinking here
>>740922952I havent posted it because im desperately clinging to the hope that this thread doesnt die horribly
>>740917395>Appears in the room immediately when you grab the orbWhere were the cameras located?
>>740922952Which version is the best?
Was this the one where you can kill amish God with a chainsaw?
>>740920165Based
>>740929870Zoomers love heckin epic lore! No, it's just Odin.
>>740929850Couldnt you just get duplicates of important items anyways?
>>740929850FF Legends/Saga1 is not FF Adventure, retard. Though you are right that FFA/SD1 is a great game and on par with LA.
Why did mutants suck so much?
>casually consume pieces of your slain enemies>this is normal
>>740914863That's because as other people said it wasn't made by Kawazu so it lacks the juice of the other games.The DS remake however was made by Kawazu so it feels and plays like a real SaGa game AND keeps almost all the design elements from the original game and adds more interesting time travel stuff at a gameplay level, not to mention new musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUy01CU3wcQ>>740930473It is a common mechanic in roguelike games, Kawazu adopted the mechanic because he played a lot of Hack when he young and really liked how you could eat enemy corpses to get a variety of effects like resistances or stats, so he implemented a similar mechanic in the sci-fi subset of the series, SaGa's main influence outside of classic tabletop games is roguelikes.
>>740931248I hope games like this make a comeback. They have so much more soul
Sorry but SaGa 1 just had the best atmosphere and tone, i just fucking love the setup of 4 adventurers ascending a mysterious tower
>>740932593>>740931248Seconding these posts
>>740929813>their loreHow deep is the plot in these?
>>740929870that's SaGa 1the chainsaw is supposed to instantly kill anything with lower stats than the user but it does the opposite, so it can kill bosses including the final boss (who is, to my understanding, a nonspecific creator god rather than based on any belief)
>>740932593https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQUkZKWtY0IFucking peak shit right here
>>740934206Isn't his name Odin?
>>740934096They're gameboy games from the late 80's and SaGa 1 was literally the world's first handheld RPG, there's not much but what's in there is honestly pretty good, if you want deeper worldbuilding you need to look into the later games.>>740934532No, it's Kami/God, which is why it was localized as the more neutral Creator abroad to not offend soccer moms.Odin was one of the gods in SaGa 2 though and recently Emerald Beyond also has a throwback to that with King Din and Brighthome being modeled after Valhalla.SaGa 1 God/Creator is more explicitly styled after the abrahamic God as some of its attacks like "let there be light" are direct biblical references, at the same time he's a clever meta joke about Kawazu himself.
>>740934532Nah Odin is a separate figure who you fight earlier in the game.
>>740935128>>740934858Bumping
>>740934523shit's too goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlKt2YiGbWMi like the version from RS3 bokuno as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0QpUlAfHTs
>>740931973SaGa Emerald Beyond brought back a lot of the monster and robot mechanics from the GB games and Frontier, and introduced a few new oddball races too. One character is a plant person with very low LP but reincarnates after death and grows and matures again over the course of battles, really cool system.
>>740913554are you a bad enough dude to beat BRAIN LORD????
>>740934858I remember getting these in the bargain bin at the vidya store. The sensation of going intonation video game shop as a kid was unreal.
>>740929732The original
>>740938106Brain Lord is a pretty decent Zelda clone and I did enjoy it but it weirds me the fuck out in the bigger context of its own series
>>740934206Did someone do a video about the chainsaw or something? I hate how everything has been compressed into shitty, surface level YouTube 'content' and things get associations based on a couple of popular videos
>>740935128Odin is fron SaGa 2The first time you party wipe, you're sent to meet him where he offers to revive you whenever you die in battle, basically letting you letting you retry for free, on the condition you will fight him later onAfter you fight and beat him, you don't get revives anymore, dying is just a game over now(also you can save anywhere so it's not really a big difference but it's still cool shit)
>>740941697meant for>>740934532
>>740941571eh I think a lot of FF fans who only vaguely know of SaGa have always only known it as "that game boy game that got rebranded as FF" and/or "that game where you kill god with a chainsaw" for a long time, it's what people always seem to be most familiar with when I bring it up to someone who doesn't know this series
>>740913554This game was great, I never finished it but I loved it as a kid.Not to mention it has kino music
>>740913554Final Fantasy Adventure was better.
>>740938106H O L Y B A S E Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4qUao5sLA
>>740942128Why?
>>740931248Can't believe I haven't heard of the Saga 3 remake until now. Pretty sure my DS is working just fine, so maybe I'll look for the game the next time I visit Japan.
>>740942590Both SaGa 2 and SaGa 3 got amazing DS remakes, they were never localized and barely even advertised because it was Wada's dark ages of SE but they're both great Minstrel Song style remakes with tons of improvements without messing with the content or the original game design.
>>740942576Its systems worked better for the Gameboy. Fun companions. Liked the chain whip. Pretty cool starting out as a gladiator who gets sentenced to death and adventuring your way up to saving the world, and the Mana Tree.
>>740943054>it was better>why?>because it was cool to me as a boyBased
>>740919213>you can get soft locked easyMaybe a retard can.
The only one I played was 3 and thought it was a lot of fun. Friend ended up giving it to me because he couldn't beat Argon.
>>740942934Theyre great but I never liked the art direction all that much. The artwork from the GB games have some of my all time favorite character designs and wouldve loved to seen them fully utilized.
>>740942128No
>>740934858He’s referred to in Japan as Silky Hat
>>740914863Same, FF adventure was good too. >tfw found out it wasn't a true final fantasy game>it had black mages, white mages and chocobosHmmm, really makes me think.
>>740949249FF Adventure is more of a true Final Fantasy than anything SE has put out. Also I truly mean 100% seriously that the gameplay in FFA far better than FFXVt. played them both
>>7409135542 is the best because your dad is an indiana jones looking dude and joins your party with a machine gun and magic nukesoh and you can add robots as party members which have really fun gameplay.
>>740950393all robot party is the objective coolest way to play itand saga frontier for that matter (even if only one route lets you)
>>740950650Pretty soulful art. All this old Saga art is really good. Scarlett seemed really weird.
Are FF games even good or is it just franchise investment?
>>740951469i got that one fron danbooru lol, it's not officialscarlet grace has the misfortune of being a vita game made on a budget of nothing, which is a shame because the actual gameplay is incrediblei think it was trying to replicate the look of tomomi kobayashi's art in 3D, but i agree it wasn't great looking
>>740951469Scarlet Grace has Kobayashi's art which is what everyone associates to the series, it's far from weird since she designed characters for almost every game in the series, even when she wasn't the main character designer she still made illustrations with her own interpretations of the characters
>dying to try the Saga/Legend games>afraid that I'll softlock and lose a 40 hour save file before the final boss and ragequit them foreverwhat do
>>740952841none of these games are longer than 10 hours and the only softlock i know of in them is if you save in the final area of saga 1, since there's no way to go backjust dont do that and youll be fine
>>740953047>>740952841How is it a soft lock if you're at the end and the game is functioning? And why are you hoarding single player linear game saves? You going to boot it up on your death bed and reminisce?
>>740953594>How is it a soft lock if you're at the end and the game is functioning?Yeah bro just go into the final area with no healing items and the entire party at low hp, or at a ridiculously low stats that can't beat the last boss no matter how hard you try.
>>740937056>a nuke…in a Japanese game?Wut?
>>740954929>His dad never gifted him a nuke
>>740954929Nukes are in a lot of japanese franchises. Even the more nationalistic ones like Muv Luv feature nukes prominently. I think you're taking western sissificaiton where everything is a the past taboo to talk about and applying it to Japan
>>740954000Nice zeroes
>>740913554That was one of my 2 non Pokémon game boy games
>>740957185This and Tetris?
My gameboy color selections were awful as a kid because I didn't know shit and just bought shitty tv show/movie spinoff games.Then everything changed when I got a Nintendo Power subscription
>>740957185makes sense, Pokemon wouldn't exist without the SaGa games
>>740957407physical game guides were the stuff
>>740916418>The same team behind FFL3/SaGa 3 would also make Mystic Questit's kinda crazy how similar they look on the surface
>>740941571i remember seeing a woman doing stand-up comedy in the 90s talking about that specific part which is really weird
>>740960661The boss battle I understand, chainsaw not so much. I don't remember even encountering it in the game.
>>740951613it really depends. even the first two final fantasy games have nothing in common aside from the tileset they use.
>>740955070>>740955550But it’s their N word?
>>740960959it's only available in one shop in the fourth world pretty sure, so not terribly hard to miss
>>740961780You are currently acting out the caricature of a westerner getting offended on someone else behalf without understand anything about the people you're getting offended for them. If you're american, it's even worse--image nuking them and then telling them they need to be offended and can't talk about nukes anymore.
>>740961798Too obscure to define the game
>>740941697NTA but an interesting touch is if you never die before you reach Odin, yo just fight him and don't have the conversation you were supposed it if you meet him before.
>>740962045No they needed and to a degree still need to be nuked again.
>>740965070Because anime xDdd
Anyone ever play the bootleg Pokémon Green/Diamond carts? They had them at my local Blockbuster.
