>>740920292
The female dwarves are so distractingly bad most people completely gloss over the fact the gameplay loop and many core design decisions (which were criticized by playtesters over a year ago) are shit.

>>740920292
>DRG is a game famous for its community spirit and seamless teamwork with minimal encouragement required
>make a game where you steal upgrades from each other
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!

>>740920464
Female dorfs are a lightning rod for retards
True autists are mad about the inherent lore break of an even super-er dwarf combat miner team than DRG's Space Rig roughnecks, and also that they shamelessly copied Tracer from Overwatch

>>740920768
Yeah that's my point. People just look at the hideous character models and complain endlessly about that instead of the real, actual problems the game has.

>>740920292
>game that works perfectly well with permanent progression
>turning it into a temporary progression game
>game that revolves aorund teamplay and naturally encourages it with class lines
>turning it into a game where you have to fuck over your teammates
>game where the main cast is "ugly, but charming"
>turning it into a game where the cast is just ugly.
now stop spamming this thread

>>740920292
>make a game no one asked for
>nobody plays it
The DRG name isn't enough to carry it

Roog-Core
>Armour causes every bit of friendly fire, chip dmg, and fall dmg to be permanent
>Compete with team mates for upgrades
>Mission comes to a grinding halt so you can spend some time in shit-ass menus
>Only start having fun halfway through the mission when your build comes online, then the mission ends
>Corespawn have no soul.

DRG
>Shields act as a buffer for shenanigans, ensures you don't die constantly when revived
>Only compete for resupplies, but you get more nitra than you need 90% of the time.
>Only menu is in the lobby.
>Build is made in the lobby, immediately have fun when mission starts.
>Glyphids are cool.

guys, the experimental build fixed everything. come back.

>>740920292
>New game that has 1 primary mode of play
>It's longer deep dives
>randomly generated loot that is shared by the whole group. Someone can and will snipe the best pick first for their build
>New enemies are nothing worth mentioning
>Not that many new weapons, most that's on offer is straight from DRG
>Circles, circles everywhere.
>Ugly ass character models, but not the endearingly ugly like the dwarves
>Despite lots of reused assets from DRG, still took several years to make.
>People bitching about timers when that's the only thing stopping rounds from being 30 minutes to over an hour long as retards would scour the whole map without it
>Lose everything if game goes poorly

It ain't looking great.

>>740920292
My refund went through. God bless.

>>740920292
Trying to shoehorn roguelike mechanics into a game that wasn't at all about being a roguelike

>>740920292
Making a new game no-one wanted, then adding features and woke shit everyone said they didnt want, then abandoned development of their previous game which everyone told them not to do.

>>740920292
they made a sequel that competes with their previous entry for the same playerbase
players tried it, and liked the first game more. simple as that.
they should've made a dlc or a real sequel. deep rock is still healthy and deserves support.

still laughing over the fact they refused to listen to the testers

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>>740920292
Shitty spin-off that gets rid of the gameplay hook that made DRG interesting, makes it a boring roguelike with boring upgrades with the majority being lame ass multipliers and numerical stat increases, female dwarves look like abominations, teammates can fuck you over with upgrades (cyrillic named players are now even more annoying than the og DRG if you can believe it), bosses are bland, strating very mission is the same old slog where you are too underpowered and need to make it far enough for it to get interesting, it doesn't differenciate itself enough from DRG, etc.

Not buying a game on release day pays off again. Patientbros, we keep winning.

>>740920292
Unreal engine 5 that somehow looks worse than the original while hogging a lot of gpu resources is one of the many things that went wrong and that I don't see mentionned enough.
t. 4070ti Super

>>740920292
The devs being Scadinavian, means they have their heads so far up their own asses they are impervious to feedback.
They didn't give a fuck during testing and now they pay the price.

Classic EUcucks fucking up their golden goose.

the curse of the mythical "wider audience"

>>740920292
Aww sweet something no one asked for to split up the playerbase

>>740926991
the shareholders asked for a new 30 dollars drain on our wallet

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same reason why I didn't play survivor. 1400 hours on DRG don't motivate me to pay for it again but with a cancerous gameplay

>>740927210
pretty sure they didn't even bother changing the perk system

>fuck with the tempo for reasons
>add a perk system with random rarity that each player needs to gamble on to increase friction and not encourage teamplay which drg is famous for reasons
>greenbeards can actively unknowingly fuck you over so instead of carrying and taking them under your wing you kick them for being noobs
>add ugly women for reasons
>double down on reddit humor for reasons
>any criticism is either ignored or countered with "skill issue" or "its not drg, go back to playing that if you dont like it" or "let them cook"
gee i wonder why it flopped

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DRG is one of my favorite games but I haven't been keeping up with it much in the last 2 years or so (I tend not to follow game news) but when I saw the hideous female dwarf right there in the middle on the game's poster I lost all interest.
A major part of the atmosphere is capturing the "exploited mine worker who find joy in each other's company" feeling but in space and as dwarves, a male-only group is an absolute must to get that feeling.
You can say it's shallow or I'm a chud or whatever but I don't give a shit, make the product properly.

Should've been a part of the core game.

>>740920292
People told them their issues with the gameplay and were ignored because "you're just criticizing our game because you dont think our characters are fuckable."

>Make game that is a chill, coop dwarf mining game
>Ditch all that for a rogue-lite
Why

>>740920768
I wouldn't call it a lightning rod, it's more of a canary

Completely unrelated, but am I the only one getting all of a sudden horrible framrate drops on DRG? I tried lowering the graphics, reinstalling, and even updated the drivers, but still runs like ass. I really don't know why, the only game giving me this problem.

I've been having a lot of fun with it. I was bored of DRG after putting in a few hundred hours over the years, so this is refreshing because it's still the same aesthetic and setting but with new gameplay.

My only criticism is it has made me lose a lot of respect for the community because the game isn't really that hard but people are fucking shit at it. Reading through the criticisms and discussions on Steam is painful because everything is just skill issues. Maybe DRG's cozy co-op attitude coddled shitters for too long and they can't be carried anymore in a game that's slightly harder.

>>740928969
unreal 5

>>740929205
DRG is UE4, Poop core is the one using UE5

literally everybody predicted this

>have to go back into the upgrade menu
>again
>lets see
>5%chance to freeze enemies when attacked from behind on a tuesday
>okay, that sounds okay
>teammates immediately leave because i 'stole' their build

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>>740927804
>>740920464
You guys know female dwarves in fantasy are notoriously ugly, right? The ongoing theme/joke is that they're nearly indistinguishable from dwarven men, beards and all. If that's what the people are complaining about, then the people are retarded.

>>740930459
>joke is that they’re indistinguishable from the men
>make them distinguishable from the men
Genius at work. If they actually were indistinguishable from the men but labeled female, I guarantee nobody would give a shit. It was already a running joke in the community that we already had female dwarfs

>>740920661
>>make a game where you steal upgrades from each other
Wait, really? That's fucking hilarious.

>Make co-op shooter
>pivot to make PvPvE shooter
Every goddamn time people try to do PvPvE, they fail at it.

>>740930459
no, lotr has it that dwarves are fiercely protective of their women such that not one has been seen by outsiders, that is why the people of middle earth believe that they sprout out of the ground
gimli says it in two towers ffs

>>740920292
>refusing to take feedback
>in a game about cooperation include design decisions that make you fight your own team mates
>early access
>reused content from previous game
>female dwarfs look wrong

also fuck me why are the new enemies so ugly?

>>740932382
Yeah and Aragorn explains it's because of the beard.

>>740932721
that was a joke

>>740920292
The poorfags who play DRG only want free updates to their shitty game, not a having to spend money on new games

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>hey we can totally keep our old loyal player base while also expanding to some untapped market by making this radical change
>Not to mention the mythical female gamers would flock if we put ugly chicks in it

>>740934457
the amount of DLC cosmetics i see when playing says they have no problems supporting the devs

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>>740924791
>negotiation mechanic not ditched
>fixed

>>740920292
too woke

>>740935418
>we spent too much time on it we cant abandon our bad idea
>the only changes they made were to upgrades, and still arent present during the initial spread of weapon/tool/grenade options
Imagine being told you're wrong for years by playtesters and still not walking it back when the wider public tells you the same thing.
Having all upgrades be the same tier just pushes it to a tolerable level rather than a nuclear fuckup.

>>740920292
The upcoming first update does fix several of the glaring flaws.
Game still needs a shit ton more oc content and things to do though.
The foid dwarfs still have no reason to exist, luckily only one of them is a viable class, the other is just dogshit.
Gauntlets is the mode they shouldve used as the main games' mode in the first place desu.

>>740930459
Nta, but nah it's a valid complaint. You also can't post a jap image and then try to say we're the issue for not liking the designs. If a character is black or ugly they just don't buy the game there.

>>740937537
there was a qa stream by the devs after the release, some people asked directly for autosprint and to remove the slowdown when using melee and jumping down to speed up the dwarves to match the increased tempo and the devs just refused all of it
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2605790/discussions/0/657107714318574367/

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>>740940742
GSG really seems to be trying to burn through their goodwill as fast as physically possible. They went from absolutely picture perfect AA devs to "we are abandoning our game" to "when we said we wanted feedback on the new game we meant suck us off".
Right now they've got two choices: stick with RC and fix it based upon player feedback OR change nothing, make no money from it and go back to developing DRG in 2 years once the financial situation has become dire.

>>740920292
i have 60 hours in drg and dont care to play more
i watched a brief clip of rogue core gameplay and it looked like the same shit
im aware there are changes but for me personally its not different enough

money

DRG is just better, should have spent their energy on a big expansion for DRG

>>740940742
they added auto sprint in the beta version of the game.

Literally the same exact posts as the previous 15 rogue core threads

>>740923538
agreed. making the entire game loop a deep dive with nothing equipped was retarded

>>740920292
women.

>>740943349
Its a really REALLY bad sign if a roguelike thread doesnt
A) Devolve into an argument about like vs lite or the Berlin Interpretation
B) Fanart dump
C) Anons posting their endgame builds popping off (such as in Isaac or Risky) or high scores (such as in Nuclear Throne or Spelunky)
Even ignoring the stupid slap fight regarding the ugly woman dwarf, this is a really bad showing for the game if threads cant even find a reason to talk about the game theyre playing.

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>>740930459
>You guys know female dwarves in fantasy are notoriously ugly, right?
Why lie anon?

>>740930656
It's not PvPvE
It's still PvE, just they designed it around selfish mechanics.