https://files.catbox.moe/3hlh30.mp4
>>740921319Explain then why Bioshlock is dogshit? Explain why System Shock 2 is a consistent continuation of System Shock's style in writing despite Ken Levine having absolutely 0 involvement in SS1.
theyre not and play nothing alike
>>740921412Because System Shock 2 was made by LGS and the games after weren't. Hope this helps.
Oh hey, I don't care!
>>740921412>Explain then why Bioshlock is dogshit?It isn't. Its literally just SS2 without inventory management. You're wither a Ktoganfag, or consoles terrify you.>Explain why System Shock 2 is a consistent continuation of System Shock's style in writing despite Ken Levine having absolutely 0 involvement in SS1.If you think SS2 is like SS1, you have outed yourself as a tourist/poser.On a writing levrl? Ken has been very clear that Warren helped.
>>740921615Do you make it a habit of responding to rhetorical questions?
>>740921575They are and they do.
>>740921412I replayed SS2 and B1 back to back recently and the latter really isn't that much worse than the former. Definitely overhated by elitist imsim pseuds.
ken levine is a hack fraud like george lucas that needs people to rein him in otherwise he makes bioshock infinite which could have been an amazing game if he didnt randomly decide to cut shit out on a whim
>>740921717You are a retard.>On a writing levrl?Yes on a writing "levrl" you shit-for-brains, that is literally what I said.
>>740921843"elitism" as a pejorative is used exclusively by gatekept morons who absolutely should be gatekept. Nothing in this world has ever benefited from the lack of gatekeeping or elitism.
>>740921758you havent played them
>>740921843Hilariously, the the elitist that literally invented the PC master-race mrme thinks BS1 is as good if not better than SS2
>>740921319>(((Ken Levine))) is a hackI already knew that.
>>740921846>ken levine is a hack fraud like george lucasExcept George Lucas made the original Star Wars. Ken had absolutely nothing to do with System Shock. He's just another contractor signed on to do the drywall, not an architect.
>>740921412By the time Bioshock came out the western video game industry was in heavy decline. Not that Bioshock 1 and 2 were bad, they were just worse than games that came before. Infinite was just there to hammer it home for the slow folk.
>>740921951In this case it's simple a figure of speech for a regular circlejerking, opinion policing echochambers but with intellectual pretenses. Barely a step above discord trannies, essentially.
>>740921846>>740921846It wasn't random. The publisher got involved and made him cut shit. (Like the Citadel station sequence)
>>740921867Ok and you are wrong.Cope lmao.
>>740922092This post brought to you by gatekept lowest common denominator trying to bring standards down to his level.
>>740922012You haven't played them.
>>740922012https://files.catbox.moe/tmp2z1.mp4CopeSeetheDilateRope
>>740921843It’s merely worse in every way due to being shoved on consoles. Impressive really how they even made the soundtrack worse in the process but I guess consoles can’t handle techno.
>>740922295>its literally identical but it just doesn't have inventory management
>>740922385Or non-linear levels. Or actual emergent gameplay. Or proper character building. Or enemy variety.
Prey 2017 is more System Shock 2 than Bioshock.
>>740922385The RPG elements got shoved into a woodchipper too. Plasmids are the apex of what a 70 IQ consolefag can grasp as a concept.
Mfw Bioshock and Levine haters are just 90IQ pseuds that got one shot by a youtube video from a decade ago
BIOSUCKS
>>740922041the original star wars was only salvaged in editing thougheverbeit
>>740922465In 2013 you’d be torn to shreds like the reddit refugee you are, infinicuck.
I've played SS1, SS2, Bioshock, Deus Ex and I still don't understand what an immerisve sim is
Bad examples in the video OP, you're autistic and retarded. Sorry bud.
>>740922548Open-ended levels that allow completion of said level in a variety of ways combining problem solving with your current character build.
bioshock could have been an immersive sim if not for the fact that they watered it down (Laugh Out Loud) for xbros
>>740921319It's easy to fake these with AI
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/l6BHRQoJ5O_7gPAF4gBQwA/Tranny is trying so hardAnyway, page 10
>>740922463>The RPG elements>in ss2Nigger name 3.Because we both know you're just overemphasizing the tutorial.
>>740921412Ken isn’t a good writer, it’s why 2 is the best of the Bioshock games and why Infinite killed the series. 1 is reliant on the twist and after it a lot of the glaring flaws become more obvious. Ken substitutes ideological commentary and the novelty of Rapture for decent writing. And Infinite is just retarded overall since it makes little sense on a fundamental level. And I don’t mean the science behind a flying city but rather all the other shit like how the so called WASP ethnostate has to have minorities to work for them when they have access to any technology from across infinite universes or how the story just goes off the rails halfway through and the smug cunt twins just sort of exist and provide nothing of value to the story as a whole.
>>740922446Ha!Troon.
>>740922530Lmao gonna cry krogan fag?
>>740922276And what about System Shock 1? The one everyone pretends doesn't exist except it's better than both bioshock and SS2, and no, i'm not talking about the remake fag.
>>740921319Thank you, shit no one cares about greatest enthusiast.
inb4 that one faggot who defends Infinite as if his life depends on it and calls everyone who disagrees with him a Nazi Trump supporter or some shit.
>retard uses a youtube entertainer who does sufrance level comedy videos with a casual observation of games as an argumentyikesWhat's next, IGN reviews?
>>740923243>what abou-Nah nigga. Time to admit you wrre wrong before you shift the goalpost.
>>740922446this. Bioshock is not even a shock series, it's just a theme park of Ken's insecurities
>>740923321>not 1 (1!) refutationYou ok Pseud? Need to ring the suicide hotline?
>>740923629>t. One shot by a video essay from a decade ago
>>740923620I'm NTA. Every time anyone talks about "System Shock" as a series they ignore SS1 because retards refuse to play the original. I will always bring it up
>>740922465I don't know what any of that means, and being ok with that is like a warm blanket.
>>740923706This is true.That faggot was trying to use SS1 as a life raft for his sinking argument, but it is undeniable kino that everyone says they've played (but they haven't)
>>740923692who's one shot?
>>740923759You are lucky.I didm't know about the krogan brainrot before /v/.TLDR:they think bioshock is about Jewish supremacy.
>>740923825>they think bioshock is about Jewish supremacy.but what does this have to do with Prey being a true spiritual successor to SS1/2?
>>740923770I am that faggot, I'm simply NTA you were arguing with, retard
>>740923243>>740923706What's better about System Shock? I played it. and I have a suspicion you're only pretending to have played it for some weird sense of credibility.
This is such a weird topic to become a schizo overBut I am looking forward to the anon who constantly posts threads about the time the devs connected Ace Combat to Dig Dug and thus it's canon we should all take very seriously
>>740921951How is he gatekept when he has and has played both of them?
>>740923243hey I agree I think both SS1 EE and SS1 Remake are better than SS2
>>740921319I'm not interested in schizo montages.Sum it up in 20 words or less.
zoomer here, is the system shock remake good? I liked prey 2017 but got filtered by thief and deus ex
>>740924312
>>740924506yeah
>>740924567>>740924312some proof I actually played them I guess>>740924506yes it's very good and I'd recommend everyone who's interested in SS1 but can't handle the controls to just play the remake, which is rare
>>740921319See I love shit like this, AI will never replicate this sort of schizo behavior>it has similar names, now let me find similaritiesSurprised it didn't mention how in both games you can hold guns and shoot things
>>740922465>has to mention his favorite e-celeb out of nowhereNobody cares, trooon
>>740921319>>740924664Did you know Crash Bandicoot and Bioshock are the same series?
>>740924664Why was citadel station going to be in the most narratively significant part of Bioshock infinite?
>>740924485Both games are in the same universe. This is confirmed by Ken.
>>740924829Beacuse rememberberries.
>>740924829>Why was [...] Bioshock InfiniteWhy, indeed? The writers clearly had no clue what they were doing with that game so.. I suppose the answer is that there is no answer.
>>740924870He can't do that, tho. It would be fanfiction at best.
Itt:
>>740924878Why Citadel?Why in the most significant part of the game?The part all about multiverse shit?
The weakest part of the Bioshock series is and always has been the gunplay. It was carried hard by the setting, which is more or less why Infinite wasn't so great; The sky city sucked eggs compared to Rapture.The gunplay though, is complete ass. Enemies are bullet sponges and yet you're always somehow packed to the max with ammo.
>>740924919>t.coping pseud
>>740924950
>>740924920>fanfiction>from the creator of the seriesAnon are you some kind of retard?
>>740925015Oi, don't talk about System Shock 2 like that
>>740925078ken only created bioshock, he did writing for system shock 2 but wasnt even involved in the original game
>>740924312In what ways? I already asked you this btw.
>>740925243You are coping.Hard!
>>740925316you haven't as I just entered the thread right before I made that post, but I prefer the aesthetic, the music, the enemy design and the slightly more cryptic progression, but I also love SS2
>>740924870Ken is not an authority on anything as he had no involvement in System Shock.
>>740925384>Ken is not an authority on anything>made every game in the series but SS1>Warren from SS1 helped him write SS2why are pseuds so dishonest?
>>740925364>SS2>2Hmm, but what does that number mean, though...Take your pisstakes to fanfiction.net.
>>740925383>but I prefer [...] the musicSays the moron recommending the remake which completely butchers the music, lol.>>740925364>central figure in writingDamn, didn't know he had a time machine to go back in time and rewrite a game he has absolutely no relation to on which the entirety of SS2 was built on. Constants and variables, huh...
>>740925510I recommended the remake if you simply can't do SS1 EE, and I like the music in the remake, but yes it's wholly worse, why are you being such a faggot anyway
>>740925457>had something to do with the series, therefore he owns it>also this other guy had something to do with some other game, therefore it transfers ownership(?)Two retarded arguements don't add up to one good one, you know.
>>740921750I don't know, do you?
>>740925483You:>they play nothing alike>ok they do but i like Prey more>there is no series>ok there is but its just ken's headcanon>ok ken is the brain behind the series so it can't be headcsnon, but ken didn't work on the first game>ok the lead from the first game worked with him butNigger just admit you're wrong this is getting pathetic
>>740925457>system shock 1>written by Looking Glass, no Ken Levine>writing is good>system shock 2>written by Looking Glass, with Ken Levine>writing is good>Bioshock>Ken Levine, no Looking Glass>writing is shitfigure out the constants and variables here
>>740925510If you are saying SS2 plays anything like SS1, you have outed yourself as a poser.
>>740925690>whole conversation is about Ken Levine and the writing>brings up gameplay, something Ken had absolutely 0 input inYou lack the basic cognitive functions to be taxonomised as a human being.
>>740925671>>written by Looking GlassKek.My sides.Did you know Alien was written by 20th Century Fox??
this is a shit thread for shit people, the games are largely made by the same people and they're all largely good, now spread your cheeks
>>740925864This
>>740921319As someone who's playing the remake for the first time, I want to save the earth and become a hero by assfucking SHODAN to destruction while she calls me a pathetic insect. Please and thank you.
>>740925364I hate the AI summery shit.
>>740926089Get in line, pal.
>>740923174ftfy
>>740922041so who made system shock?
>>740923174I love this genre of images where they try to sneak in a shit game everyone hates into a bigger group and you can instantly tell what kind of person made that imageInfinitenogs are so funny
Wait a minute, that card...
>>740922465How is he wrong?
>>740927926It's like those military ranking lists that inexplicably feature India in the top 3
>>740928146Indians themselves are a bioweapon.
>>740928104You'll have to wait for him to copypaste the same shit wall of schizo greentext he did last thread
>>740921319Nah.
>>740924870Meaningless, because according to Ken with Burial at Sea every single game that has ever been made is in the Bioshock universe, because multiverse! It's not. It doesn't share a single setting similarity. Deal with it. Ken is a pseud.
>>740921319Obligatoryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rixzL5WlS-Y&rco=1
I like System Shock 2, but it gets glazed far too much. The awful combat and nonstop spawning zombies just make it a joke.
Elizabeth is the perfecg sexy daughterfu
>>740921319yeah anon its a series. whats your point? that you only just realized?
