>>740929836
looks bad.

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tummy

>0 lolis so far
>mash combat returns
>hag yumia returns
>shitty house building returns
new protag is cute though, will buy

>>740930165
Why is he still wearing it anyway?

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>>740930219
You forgot the worst thing
>spats under skirts return

>>740930219
>>740930293
>No child
>No pantsu
I'll never forgive Gust

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>dude with a ponytail

>>740930540
Genshin character with extra N

what a step back from red&white

>>740930616
This pose that tries to show off both the boobs and butt from the front of both at the same time always looks retarded but in this case it looks especially bad.

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I see where they are going with this game. I'm in.

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>>740930832
Architect bros, we won

How is Yumia on S2 nowadays?

took decades but they finally started putting effort into environments and not just characters. looks nice

>>740929836
>BIIIIIIIG cauldron
>MC eating the materials
Is that... something mildly silly and whimsical and not sterile as hell like everything since the first Ryza? I didn't think they still remembered how to do that.

>>740930165
>>740930278
is it his canary in the coalmine? Dont buy the games until I'm no longer hostage?

>>740931042
They udpated pick up animation too, thats actually nice

It seems at least traversal should be more fun in this one
I really didn't like bike in Yumia

>>740930918
I've read it runs like ass, wait for patches.

This stream feels as exciting as my ppt presentations in school.

Here comes the alchemy This is make or break bros

>>740930616
>Yumia
100% skipping now

Okay alchemy is interesting, pre ordered

no loli, no buy.

>>740930616
I like yumia so buying

>imagine liking Yumia
kek

>>740933789
she must have the mouth of a camel.

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>atelier is dead
sadge.

>>740934480
No its not, its actually good (again) now

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https://atelier.games/karia/us/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKOofUR_5cE&pp=0gcJCUELAYcqIYzv

>>740934791
>Karia can eat ANYTHING
wow I wonder what kind of art this character is going to get

>>740929836
>>740930178
>>740930832
>>740933789
>>740934791
Why is she always eating?

EN is up
https://youtu.be/SKOofUR_5cE?si=pLMHQK7GQEm3Hml7

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>lost memories
>can eat any material
>her appearance changes depending on what she eats
>talent for alchemy
She is a homunculus, isn't she?

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>>740929836
MARRY
SEX
SEX
KILLLLLLL

>>740930178
Sex Sex Sex Sex Sex Sex Sex

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rutger is so lucky..

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>hagelier

>>740929836
>No mods
>yuri harem
>FF16 but Atelier
Why?

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>>740935001
Alchemy system looks like an improvement on Yumia at least
Not like that's a very high bar though...
It would be fun if they combined the shop system from Resleriana with the stronghold system here, but maybe that's a third game kind of improvement.
Anyways I hope it's more stable than Yumia on launch. The final cutscene kept crashing on me and really pissed me off.

>>740934915
fatty

>>740935001
is it true they removed party member from combat

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>>740930178
>>740929836
>>740930891
>>740933789
>>740934915
>>740935225
>>740935304
>boobs
>then legs
>now tummy

Whats next after this one? Ass? Feet?

>>740936548
Watch the video, retard

>>740936620
Nah

>more yumiaslop
atelier has been dead after sophie. let it rest.

>>740929836
>>740930178
Why does she wear the little horns?

>>740936697
ryza's games were better than sophie's thoughbeit

>>740935270
Is that Jing Yuan from the popular gacha Honkai Star Rail?

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>>740930540
>fist user

Niiiice.

>>740936963
>still no improvements in combat
Even Trails is better at this point.

>>740935270
kill all.

>>740934576
>Yumia setting
>Yumia combat
>Yumia synthesis
it's 100% dead

>>740937264
3/4 faggot not full faggot but still faggot

>>740937035
they literally showcased improvement in the combat

>>740936857
nice shit taste.

>>740937378
did they? it looked barely any different from Yumia's (real time was a mistake)

>>740937348
>Yumia setting
Yes
>Yumia combat
No
>Yumia synthesis
No

They are updating it

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>>740936880
the mc hair, pose and how they're portraying her always eating something is 100% inspired by Cure Arcana Shadow so not surprising their artist would be inspired by popular gacha art. benitama is just that bad compared to past atelier character designers and we all know that KT only forced him on this game because Marie remake flopped so hard they had to scrap the sequels.

Karia is the Tears of the Kingdom to Yumia's Breath of the Wild

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>>740936735
They are a part of her.

>>740929836
I never tried these games before. Would Yumia be a good place to start?

>>740937685
it's literally the same shit anon, stop defending it and let it flop so Gust/KT decides to move on from this exploration garbage.

>>740937874
Start with Sophie DX

>>740937874
No

>>740930540
>Lynn
that bitch is everywhere!

>>740937874
no.
start with Sophie or even Ryza.
but if you're a chad that actually want the real Atelier experience, go for Rorona or Ayesha.

>>740937895
lol no its different

>>740937874
Just pick whichever girl you find the cutest and start there.

>>740935225
What would she figure out from slurping my semen?

>>740937035
>Even Trails is better at this point.
well yeah, they have the best turn-based combat of any jrpg right now

>>740937973
keep believing that, yumiatard.

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>>740937826

>>740938376
this looks awful
she needs bigger boobs

>>740938131
Are you talking about remake of the 1st trail or horizon?

>>740930732
lmao, my exact thoughts, how is her spine bending like that?

>>740936963
What the combat is lacking is weight
The monsters get pummeled down and they barely flinch or moved from the spot

>>740938376
I wonder if her pubes change colour and thickness as well.

>>740938237
Nigger if you watched the EN version you know its different.

>>740936963
does the alchemist use a sword cane or do my eyes deceive me. uses it like a sword anyway

>>740930178
fat

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>>740930616
>they keep giving yumia a nigger ass and making it bigger
goddamn i hope it flops harder than yumia

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I just want more cute stuff. Sexualizing cute innocent girls is way hotter.

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>>740939057
Yes and Yumia uses a gun cane.

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>2 years have passed
We're getting there... She's 23 now. I need her to be a ditzy 27 year old OL with a stupidly slappable ass by the 3rd game

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>>740937772
>Luluka invented eating
I know she's popular, but there's no way the Atelier girl was finalized before Luluka exploded.

>>740940502
yeeeshh,.. she was already old in her own game. someone get this old lady a walker

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ArchitectGODS...

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>>740941158
Gust, make her belly fatter after she is done eating and my money is yours

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>looks like yoru no nai kuni combat, even similarly changes her form (by eating), doesn't use a gunstaff for exploration, uses elemental reactions, klee yeet throwing series staple is back
wow what an improvement over atelier yumia, this is promising
>is still boring xenoblade style turn based action combat from yumia
and they dropped the ball hard. why the fuck would anyone play this kind of style when white knight chronicles exists, you are never beating that shit. tribe nine didn't die for this. how did they look at shining dragon resonance and were like yeah we're just continuing to dumb down the games actual combat because yumia is running like shit on the switch 2. holy shit we're back to the olympus coliseum rpg in khcoded bois get hype

>>740941759
>why play game when [18 year old game] exists

>>740941842
you should because at least they don't feel shackled by the previous game in their series. atelier lulua was pretty basic ass shit but the perspective of being someone not protagonist tier was a refreshing return to basics. then they turn around and spam gooner slop, as in, top tier ass character designs but with complete shit gameplay, and then they feed the exact same yumia failings all over again. this time, the change in perspective ain't worth all this shit. its just straight up shovelware. no, you don't get to resell a spruced up version of yumia and double dip by being this lazy. they are perfectly capable of making toggleable between action combat and turn based, they just don't want to expend the effort to and would rather yumia drag down this game. what a waste.

>>740940502
why is her hair color different in game.

I don't care about this shit enough to endlessly hate on it every thread but I'll just do it one last time. It looks like global appearing garbage, character design is shit, and Gust sold out. This isn't anything new however and it's been this way for a long time now. Hiding the thread now, you can have your pleasant threads from now on without me shitting on this garbage.

>>740939048
explain the differences
it's nothing but minor changes
it's still real time button mashing slop

>>740943418
congratulations you are the first retard to confuse appealing with appearing

>>740943895
Haven't played Yumia (and won't play this either) but it looks like they added pauses when you select skills/items, making the combat a bit more like Ryza's.

>>740943418
except you've been doing this retarded whining every day for years, retard tranny

>>740941759
>turn based action combat from yumia

Your AI is broken.

>>740929836
Last game I played was Ryza 3. Why don't people like Yumia's game?

>>740945974
type that question into ChatGPT, I'm not writing an essay for you

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>>740945974
Tried to take synthesis out of Atelier. They're walking it back.

>>740945974
Piss easy
Combat sucks
Alchemy system gutted

>>740940559
her popularity started literally 10 months ago so yes, she clearly did.

>>740944492
in the end it still will be button mashing slop since items are useless in nuAteliers.

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>>740930431
How did we go from top tier dudes to THIS?

They should just make a Recettear game but you have to gather materials to craft your items but also make it not shit

Is this game unicorn friendly?
My waifu won't start craving for Chad's cock mid game right

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>>740947345
How has nobody made a Recettear game since Recettear?

>>740947096
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon

>>740947345
None of the old ateliers have strict time limit or economy? There's lot of potential in the series, imo

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>>740929836
Brown tomboy when?

>>740936963
>Tales of Atelier

>>740947940
Isn't alchemy a smart person job

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>>740945765
oh so that was too common a point that it sounded like ai? how about this one? this idea of an underground city was already seen in the confounding abyss in tower of fantasy where things were so bleak they simulated the sky. that game already had grapples, bikes, jetpacks and real action. even after ff7 remake has come out, gust tries to toe the line. japanese games have fallen behind chinese gacha games to a comical degree. how many years ago was tof? 5? and karia is releasing in 2027? yikes. they really have alot to make up for after giving us the yumia slop and the resleriana p2w 10 billion variations of the same characters slop and this doesn't feel like it. look at crapcom reusing the re engine for dmc. why can't this be the same. why does it have to be stuck in yumia hell? nobody even liked that shit.

>>740948139
>Rorona is an alchemist

>>740948178
>i hate it because other thing
you are genuinely retarded, fuck off

>>740948459
this game is clearly just following the e33 bandwagon especially with their promotion of parries and whoever is pushing it needs to fuck off and stop wasting character designs on idiotic trend chasing.

>>740945974
>Yumia is a shit and unfun mc.
>characters are completely forgettable.
>battles are pure button mashing that uses no strategy and are easier/faster than beating enemies with One Hit KO bombs in past Ateliers.
>the world is big but without a single exciting place to search/visit since everything is just ruins and more ruins. even the main villages and your atelier are abandoned ruins.
>exploration is extremely repetitive since you just go to point of interest, solve the same puzzle that's used everywhere and get the same skill points/mats/chests.
>ubisoft towers/genshin warp points to unfog the map
>Synthesis is pure garbage and a massive slog that will make you waste 10+ minutes doing a single item
>recipes needs to be leveled up so they get better effects/traits/quality
>building is sold as the biggest thing on this arc but it's mostly irrelevant and useless. also bugged.
>the story is completely retard and try to be something serious when it's not.
>the ost is completely shit and unmemorable.
>Yumia don't use cauldron for synthesis, she does it by dancing.
Yumia is the Atelier game made for fans that dislike Atelier games.

>>740949609
Based. It's a mana k game.

>>740949609
Yumia is CUTE and my WIFE, don't you dare call her shit.

did they fix alchemy? Yumia is too casualized with auto craft.

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>>740950034
>CUTE
if your wife was Isla or Lenja I'd agree with you since they're actually cute and fun. But sorry, Yumia will never be cute and will always be shit.

>>740930178
why is she depicted eating

>>740949609
>>battles are pure button mashing that uses no strategy and are easier/faster than beating enemies with One Hit KO bombs in past Ateliers.
As shitty as Yumia's battle system is it's fundamentally impossible for them to make a battle system more abusable than Ryza 3 where you can start every battle by immediately cancelling into your turn and using an item to OHKO every enemy.
>>recipes needs to be leveled up so they get better effects/traits/quality
This was one of the worst ideas Firis had, I don't know why they keep trying to make it work.

im just not feeling this one chooms

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>>740950476
I posted the wrong Saber btw

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>>740950550
at least you can use items in Ryza 3.

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What?

>>740951350
That's a big cauldron.

So this is the next one in the Yumia saga?
I'm not getting Atelier Jewed again so I'mma wait for the DX collection.

>>740947940
See >>740936963

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okay what the fuck is she eating? are those ingredients? no i didnt watch the fucking interview or whatever.

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>>740951603
She can everything. Ingredients, synthesis products, etc.
And it gives her some boots/special abilities + appearance changes.

>>740951739
imagine her shits

>>740930616
SEX

>>740930616
kill

>>740942772
She's older, anon!

>>740951846
in my mouth

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>>740947940
Nyanako >Nanako

>tfw still haven't beaten a single atelier game
>they keep releasing a new game every year

>>740947517
it's sad how many shop sims and merchant games there are and how none of them have looked at recettear and seen why it worked so well.

>>740951739
Do any of them make her tits bigger? This is important.

>>740929836
This does not look any better than Yumia.

>>740951739
I suspect this is going to be a matter of every item you make you eat and get a permanent bonus / unlock out of it once.

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>MC eats things that change her appearance
Now hang on a second, there's great potential here

>>740954017
what happens if she eats pussy

As a tummy lover i am eating good, just like she is.

>>740954125
She turns into you.

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>>740954213
that wasn't very nice

these games keep looking worse and worse

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>>740954213

Eating a lot isn't a character trait, nor is it cute.

>Hagtelier
Pass

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>>740954851

I FUCKING LOVE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGS
OOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE WOMEN MY OWN AGE

>>740955342
>Be 40
>20 year olds are too young
What now?

>>740930616
Yumia matrimony

>>740930616
wait she had her turn already why is she back

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wait she had her turn already why is she back

>>740955342
Me?
Sweaty, smelliy, saggy and dried year old HAGS
SEEEEEXXXXX

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>>740955717
She's cute and sexy

>>740955717
>past game returning in sequel as side character
Yeah what's with this special treatment, literally never happened before.

>>740930165
Kawaii Globohomo-Producer Senpai is cute! CUTE!

>>740930165
I was surprised that Atelier is apparently popular enough outside of Japan to get a dedicated video and social media account.

>>740956668
and a dedicated handler

>>740956668
We can thank this shithole and Australians for Totori spaghetti and high impact sexual violence memes

>>740957556
I fucking hate when westerners discover a new franchise and completely ruin it, just like Atelier.

>>740957783
How have they completely failed to ruin Neptunia despite the relatively sizeable westoid fan base?

>>740929836
Did they mention if they will make more remakes like marie?

>>740957783
ywnbj btw

>>740957783
Ah yes, Westerners made Genshin Impact that Gust is clumsily trying to ape with these last two mainline games.

The main audience is China, like all the other weeb games nowadays.

>>740929836
I never played Atelier

Only arlan and dusk where any good

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>>740958341
Atelier is one of the 4chan pillars, together with Neptunia and Senran Kagura. Sounds like you're a fucking tourist.

>>740958625
I'm so 4chan

Atelier didn't even get good until Mysterious. And then it stopped being good after that.

>>740959180
I know you're baiting for (You)'s, but I actually hold this opinion, and my first Atelier was Ryza 1.

Sophie 1, Firis, Lydie & Suelle, Lulua (which is basically a Mysterious game with Arland characters) and Sophie 2 are far and away the best games in the series IMO. Good to great graphics, no time limits (except in Firis but it's extremely generous and removed halfway through), best turn-based combat, most complex alchemy mechanics. Making fucking insane end game builds in Lydie & Suelle and debuffing the boss so much Firis' follow-up hits them for 200k+ dmg is peak Atelier.

>>740959753
Sophie 2 was mid.

>>740959753
Yeah I know what you're saying. But then it got even better in Ryza. Literally the peak of the series. No idea why they decided to go downhill with Yumia and the gacha.

>>740959753
Sophie 1 had the worst combat in the series until Ryza 3 happened.

>>740960015
It's just round-based like Bravely Default, or are you contrarian enough to say BD sucks too?

>>740960501
So Brave of them to use Default generic combat

>>740958625
Nep and SenKag are both shit

>>740935001
So it's even more Yumia but with alchemy more structured and possibly less overpowered.
I guess, bro...

>>740960872
you're not 4chan enough

>>740958625
Blue Reflection too, kind of.

>>740960872
Blue Reflection too, kind of.

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Dumb woman...

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SEEEEEXOOOOOO

>>740962085
Imagine the banging shit she's going to have.

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>>740937874
Start with Atelier Ryza series.

Why does everyone look so old now? I don't get it. Even Sophie didn't look like a child, so what gives?

>>740962331
Ryza is a fertility goddess.

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>>740930219
>>740932108
I just realized if she had 100 variations of design when eating she may became loli on oke of it

>>740930293
this should be punishable by a public flaying at the bare minimum

>>740936963
looks like a mobile game

>>740930165
What's wrong with that badge?

>combat is now completely optional as you can just kill mobs by throwing bombs at them in the overworld
lol lmao

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Why is modern atelier like this?

>>740962695
Who said there was anything wrong with it?

>>740937874
start with Atelier Annie for the nintendo ds

>>740960501
Utterly retarded reductionism, BD's combat is entirely based around the Default mechanic which isn't in Sophie. Sophie's combat is a fucked up mess of the previous support systems where you have to set the support actions in advance thus making them no longer function logically, while the speed stat became completely useless because going faster within a single round was a pointless boon and the multi-hit effect only applied to basic attacks and not skills.

>>740955865
why do they all have such a retarded idle pose
put your fucking hands by your sides

>>740958625
lmfao

>>740963405
To avoid clipping through their outfits. Low budget.

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>>740957783
This but monster hunter

>>740963405
Only firis is retarded there but i do get the point

>>740956668
You realize yumia was specifically aimed at a "global" audience and that's why it bombed, right?

>>740957783
Westerner this westerner that. Why does everyone on this site hate cowboys so much?

>>740963561
i didn't think of that - that makes sense
it still looks retarded, but i find it less objectionable now

>>740962154
The ususal suspects are already upset about her throwing her tits and ass out. Which makes me ask why it's such a big deal for them to cover up these characters upskirts or make them wear censor-shorts instead. You're already doing heckin problematic objectification sexualization. Why keep covering upskirts and just keep pissing everyone off?

>>740964024
People are actually talking about this game outside of here? Huh.

>>740964024
>Why keep covering upskirts and just keep pissing everyone off?
see
>>740930165

>>740964842
Hmm... he looks korean....

>>740956668
the gust en account literally launched last week

>>740958625
It's Persona, EO, Tales of, and Xeno.

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>>740962357
I'm not going to say that it's impossible considering that Rom and Ram appear in Neptunia Game Maker R:Evolution and that's a recent Neptunia game (2023 and 2024 respectively), not to mention Evie in the next Stellar Blade, but the truth is, putting characters that canonically are underage or that at least look underage in a video game that involves fanservice of those characters is becoming more difficult or controversial, it has always been controversial and touchy territory but if one considers the death of Senran Kagura, Genkai Tokki, Omega Labyrinth etc, it's not a coincidence, platform holders wouldn't necesarrily allow fanservice, especially excessive fanservice, if it involves characters like the previously mentioned characters. Characters like Yumia, Drossel, Morrigan etc are safer to use if one wants fanservice or sexualization...qureate said that they don't put characters with small breasts or flat chests in their games for a reason...

>>740957783
If I'm not getting trolled by this image>>740930165, the series bent the knee to investors. So it isn't so much as foreign fans taking over or something, the creators themselves being greedy with no integrity.

>>740958625
I know about Ryza, I've just never played any of the games. Maybe I will give this new one a chance if it's not a sequel

>>740966462
more like the publisher koei tecmo. i imagine gust were told to dial it down if they want to keep making these niche jrpgs. this is the same publisher that refuses to bring DOA to the west

>>740966456
>video game that involves fanservice of those characters is becoming more difficult
It's only more difficult if your company is bootlicking the UN's 2030 agenda movement or whatever that gay little badge means.

>>740966121
Kinda funny they only just now make an EN account, instead of 10 years ago when they were still doing english dubs lol

>>740967482
I guess.

>>740967624
Shift Up gets to make Evie because they don't bootlick. Koei Tecmo on the other hand are compromised to "investors"

>>740962357
>Even Sophie didn't look like a child
yes, but have you seen Firis and the twins?

>>740967935
Firis is gigantic, she only seems like a child because she's retarded. But the twins yes I see your point.

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>>740968078
>firis is gigantic
Actually, forget I said that, I'm remembering her from Lydie & Suelle where she's supposed to be older than the previous game.

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One shouldn't expect much fanservice of characters like the twins, Corneria, Yuzu and Lime etc, not anymore at least.

>>740967935
>>740968078
>>740968159
Firis clearly has medium breasts at least, but it's true that she's shorter than other characters in her game.

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>>740967828
>Removed her tits and ass
>don't bootlick
HAHAHAHAHA

>>740929836
How long until the official swimsuit art

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>>740968531
God I fucking LOVE Lime

>>740930293
if they are forced to censor it by the jews why does it have to always be black void that looks dogshit why cant they get creative with it?

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>>740929836
Fat fuck

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Tummy
Brown tomboy
OL ass

>>740966456
God, Sophie is so fuckable

>>740969357
I'm liking the lineup.

There's not even 1 good atelier game