Been the case since rise from the ashes

But only 4-3 is filler in AJ.
4-2 contributes to the main plot by having Apollo decide to work for Wright, and introducing both Trucy and Klavier.

I honestly don't remember a single thing about this case

>>740931583
Either 5-3 or the DLC case from 5. I don't really agree for any of the other games.

>>740931739
4-3 introduces two characters that end up being crucial to the plot in 4-4

>>740931792
Phoenix gets hit by a car, panties and a noodle stand get stolen, a doctor dies and the son of a mafia boss is accused. His former nurse gf did it and she's a ho

>>740931739
And Ema

>>740931906
Actually fair. AJ has no complete filler.

>>740931914
Kino

>>740932159
It's not the worst thing you will get out of AA that's for sure. That would be the next case.

>>740931951
Is there any case that is completely filler? 2-1 is the closest thing I can think of, maggey comes back in other cases but she kind of remains inconsequential

>>740933042
2-3 has zero bearing on the overall plot.

>>740933042
2-3 and 3-3 as far the first trilogy goes.

>>740933097
3-3 is weird because it establishes that Godot was colorblind and his visor glows in the dark which are crucial elements for the final case, but the actual case itself has no bearing on the overarching plot.

Trucy is incredibly sexy

>>740931583
c'mon, that's hardly without precedent
even in OG detective stories goofy shit like The Adventure of the Three Garridebs was often better than serious cases

>>740933080
>>740933097
if you skip 2-3 franziska is only there for one case
actually that doesn't sound like a bad idea

>>740933080
Not in its own game but the circus does return in Investigations 2

>>740933540
It's more than AJ's overarching plot is a mess and phoenix wright completely overshadows apollo

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The Apollo-Trucy connection has got to be the most contrived thing in this entire series.
Some random newbie lawyer defending his disbarred idol in court makes sense, but then it turns out that said defendant also happens to have adopted his long-lost sister and they somehow by chance end up in the same courtroom after having never met each other and living on opposite ends of the globe for years? And then they go on to defend their mother in court, again by nearly complete chance, whom neither of them are aware that she's their mother and also never get told that and the fact that they're related? It seems like they wanted to make everything "connected" like in the earlier games but didn't bother to give a real reason why Apollo and Trucy would actually end up coming together outside of coincidence. I know a lot of people like Trucy but I feel like AA4 would've been better if it was just Phoenix tutoring Apollo, but I guess the games would feel weird to play without a teenage girl assistant.
At least everything in the original trilogy kinda comes back to DL-6, but there's no real reason to explain the events of Apollo Justice other than just "fate".

>>740934246
Didn't Phoenix pick Apollo as his attorney because he met Thalassa and learned that she was his and Trucy's mother? Or did their meetup happen later?

>>740934423
He picked Kristoph as his attorney because he knew Kristoph was actually the culprit of that case and was behind his disbarment, I think Apollo was just there by chance. I don't really get how he would also be able to figure out that Thalassa was Apollo's mom given everything that happened in Kurha'in, but figuring out she was Trucy's mom makes sense if Phoenix looked into the Gramaryes' history.

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>>740931583
I'd filler, if you catch my drift.

>>740933554
She's also in 2-4 but only shows up in the trial at the very end. And 3-5 of course.
Franny doesn't actually get that many cases, but I guess it's more than her own dad.

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>>740935257
>Franny doesn't actually get that many cases
Capcom HATES her

>>740935359
She got unlucky because of GBA cart memory restrictions. 3-3 was supposed to be a Franny case but had to be discarded and repurposed in T&T.

>>740934423
>>740934626
Phoenix and Apollo being linked through Kristoph seems like complete chance. Phoenix got targeted by Kristoph for revenge when Zak Gramarye passed on him as his lawyer in favor of Phoenix, then Apollo applied to Kristoph's law firm because he wanted to become a defense attorney like Dhurke and also admired Phoenix. Phoenix says in the flashback part of 4-4 that he had seen Apollo a few times at Kristoph's office while he was still training but I didn't get the impression he already knew he was Lamiroir's son.

>>740935359
The Miles games give her more time to shine at least

>>740935359
Me too

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>>740931583
>the best case in the game is the filler one
4-1 is the best case of the entire second trilogy.
It peaks at Apollo defending Phoenix then falls all immediately after that

>>740936717
You mean phoenix defending himself while apollo says "yes mr wright"

>>740934246
I feel like 3 is where Shu went full retard with the coincidences. The series went downhill from there.

>>740931583
In 4 it definitely wasn't. But in 6 yeah, second case is the best case.

>>740935497
>2-3 and 3-3 in the same game
I'm not sure how to feel about that

>>740931583
I've been attending this girl's magical show. I'm fascinated by her panties.

>>740937763
What kind of "magical show" are we talking about here

>>740937527
2-1 feels less disconnected if maggey reappears in the same game

>>740934246
The most contrived thing is Apollo's three completely separate backstories
1. The thalassa and trucy thing
2. childhood living in khurain that he completely forgot about
3. childhood hanging out at the astronaut center
that all ended up being the focus of each one of his games

>>740931583
The fuck is this? Did professor layton get hat kid preggers?

>>740931583
her case in aa6 was my favorite

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>>740939275
Trucy at her youngest looks a lot like Hat Kid, that was my immediate impression upon seeing her in this case

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>>740939885
It really helps that the culprit in 2-6 gave off first game vibes where any one of the culprits (Minus the first case) gave off final boss vibes. And If the assistant didn't fuck up the trick there would have been no evidence to prove he tampered with the murder scene to incriminate him.

>>740931583
she has really cute porn

>>740940556
>2nd case of game 6
I don't think that annotation style works for this series
But yes Roger was an excellent villain

>>740931583
I dont like any of the story cases. The filler ones are my favorites because they have nothing to do with the main characters personal lives.

>>740940726
It was a typo

>>740931792
There's a jap that wears a ramen bowl as a hat.

>>740940923
Never mind then

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>>740940780
My biggest problem with filler cases is that they all usually suck compared to plot cases. I don't mind filler cases, it makes sense that every case shouldn't be connected to some overarching plot, but unfortunately they're almost always just bad.

>>740931583
... Y'know, even by Ace Attorney standards, Phoenix adopting a teenage magician is certainly a thing that happens.

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AA7 when?

>>740942106
Very soon, I feel it in my bones.

In a few days it's going to be time to do this for real
>>740934246
It's sadly the sign that Takumi can only tell one story with this format,on one hand another game could've very well given proper explanations.
On the other hand, there was zero reason to not just make a self contained, fully explained story when 1 did so easily, 4 was either clearly set up for a big overarching narrative at its core that never got resolved due to capcom mismangement, or the guy honestly had no plan or heart put into the game and was just writing what came to mind, I'd say it's the former with that said although again I'd say 4's biggest point of critic is that it's super by the numbers for a formula that was getting old by it's point while trying to pretend that it wasn't.
>>740940556
It also helps that they aren't (as) over the top in design or behavior combined with deciding to address the elephant in the room about the troupe being kinda jerks and letting Trucy show vulnerability which helps make her feel more three dimensional.

>>740941075
Turnabout samurai was kino

>>740941075
For me it really depends, I don't really care about the case being filler or not. Biggest example being in AA6 where I loved case 2 but I found case 4 to be both boring, and my least favourite one of the game if we're not counting the dlc.

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>>740935359
>>740942106
They turned her into a whore.

>>740942595
she'll whip anyone who even looks at her, so it's okay

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>>740943114
Is that supposed to dissuade me from looking at her?

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>>740942106

The series is dead...

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>>740942595
What would Manfred think if he saw her dressing like that?

>>740942595
>she wants me to hold her belt
lewd
or maybe it is her way of remembering nick

>>740944879
240p quality, kino

>>740945103
He seemed like a good father, so he wouldn't want his daughter to give the impression she's a cheap whore.

>>740944879
overhated
but i admit I'm retarded and couldn't spot the contradiction

>>740948415
Just watch it again

>>740948574
i mean when i first played it